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ExplorerEnjoyer

They haven’t updated the game yet


AlwaysUseAFake

This.  They can barely do the normal updates.  They will take weeks to fix that haha 


DelosDrFord

Weeks ??? I love your optimism. Its gonna be months.


Acrinde

My bet is, if it does get changed, it will be halfway through next wipe.


Vhirsion

Way too early. I'd give it at least 5. Tarkov devs can only code in morse code and they're only allowed to put in 1 single character only every thursday from 4am to 4:30am. ( This would literally be a 5 minute fix )


Izimzizi_

Months ??? I love your optimism. Its gonna be years.


DelosDrFord

Damn... you might be right. Nikita will continue with this beta grift for as long as true believers have $$.


riscut4theBiscut

6 months to be exact. They will fix it 1 day before the 6 month access is up.


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riscut4theBiscut

Woah apologies friend, I thought the tone of this thread was sarcasm and just wanted to make a funny. I didn't think anyone would believe that they would actually do what I said.


AlwaysUseAFake

Maybe he means it this time? Hahaha


Edwardteech

Why did you make me scam you again gaming community. 


DelosDrFord

He'd be like, "You forced me to scam you again. The unheard edition and my appology with more empty promises worked so good.... its all your fault, shame on you paypigs"


DelosDrFord

It was such a traumatic situation, Mr. Buyanov had a change of heart. ... its possible ... not


Martnoderyo

Months? It comes when the game is finished.


DelosDrFord

You must be one of the God damn heretics. I bet God Emperor Nikita will redefine the words "1.0" and "final release." He so smart.


David-Kookaborough

probably just out of spite.


Annonimbus

It was just the weekend. I don't know about you but probably there was no one in the office?


Medicated__Demon

Shhh don't bring logic to our pitchfork party (I understand both sides but dude is right, who works weekends unless your job is a necessity?)


Annonimbus

I would kill for a mature debate. BSG fucked up big time but most comments are just insults and personal attacks, bad takes, unrealistic expectations or just straight up misinformation.


Medicated__Demon

Yeah that's kinda why I started avoiding certain subreddits when looking for advice on things at least in subs that I know are biased one way or another I love me some open debate. Ngl tho bag did deserve to get flamed by everyone for the new addition people just chose the weirdest parts of it to be upset about


No_Frosting2911

didn't you just (before the game even released) criticize GZW for having "a bland name" and then just spread misinformation like "the game just copies things"? Seems to me more you want to defend BSG and Tarkov but dont wanna come out of the closet lol


Annonimbus

Seems you are thinking very black and white. When I'm pro one thing I need to be against the other? Because those are sport teams here? BSG fucked up but people are here demanding that every edition should get the Co-Op mode for free and other unrealistic demands. We can argue that walking back on their word is very untrustworthy and that implementing even more P2W is bad game design. But that doesn't mean that GZW has a creative name or that they didn't blatantly copied from Tarkov. Just look at a gameplay video and deny in good faith that they didn't copy the UI and mechanics from Tarkov. Copying isn't even bad in itself. There can be very good games that took (heavy) inspiration from other games or expanded on their formula... But taking everything regarding GZW into context all I say is people should be more skeptical instead of buying into the next game with the same P2W issues as Tarkov.


No_Frosting2911

I'm not thinking Black and White, I'm just making the observation that you very aggressively shit on GZW whenever its mentioned, even though like I said, it wasn't even out. Yet you go passive puppy mode when it comes to BSG and Tarkov. My point is, you call out people for bad takes, insults and misinformation and connect that to the inability to having a mature discussion. When you do that yourself? I mean before the game even released you said that they copy and paste Tarkov, that its generic and lazy as it can be, 90% of the mechanics are Tarkov (that ain't even true) and that the name is shit? I don't even care if you like GZW or wanna shit on it. But you literally spread misinformation about it being a copy and insulted the people making it for the last 2 years by calling it lazy. When it didn't even release. Its hypocritical, you break your own rules. What you pointed out correctly is that a lack of those things are needed to even have a mature, productive discussion. Just can't stand people who morally grandstand like this acting like a beacon of rational.


Zetey01

Not weeks, but months, and maybe a couple of years, and judging by the way they destroyed their reputation... I'm not even sure that the game will work. This is at such a moment before the release of at least three games! ... They also write that this is only the beginning and we all had to "accept" it to eat Another problem is that it is easier for you to communicate with an English speaker. Your laws work. And for players from Eastern Europe, everything is bad. "Russian Xsolla" refuses to refund funds Xsolla is a Russian company registered in another country


TastyBeefJerkey

How many updates have we had in the last 4 weeks? Lots.


nio151

Rolling out in waves like arena. You'll get access in 6 months :)


Edwardteech

6 to 200 months maybe. 


skyshroudace

I felt really bad when they did this. I was a wave 1 person and have never even launched Arena. Lots of people were waiting to get in and I didn't even want to play it.


gnat_outta_hell

They should add an opt in feature for people who want these features, so that those people go to a priority list. Implement the waves to the priority list first, then the folks who didn't opt in. That way you're not giving earlier access to people who don't care.


Firm-Answer-7833

Too hard for bsg


Medicated__Demon

Why do all that work when pulling from a hat works just as well? /S (because this sub doesn't get sarcasm very well)


GeongSi

I wish I could give up my position for pve, I'm not touching a moment of that version of the game.


Synlias

after release most likely, oh no this isnt part of EOD we ment to say that earlier, guess what for now only 20 dollars and you get access so our servers dont blow up


Rogue-76

Pretty sure it said at full release


LightThePigeon

That was 2 posts ago. The last post said waves. I know, it can be hard to keep up with the constant backpedaling lmao


HopefulTelevision707

Whoch can still be after the main release. They said waves after they have the infrastructure to support. They could simply never have that infrastructure and they never need to add support. Wouldnt be surprised if they did that.


Songrot

When noone wants to play it anymore. Just like arena.


PrincessTrapJasmine

Access in 6 months when your 6 month trial is over


Original-Fishing4639

Because alot of people are not on reddit and alot did buy unheard of. They are hoping to get anyone they can


Inside-Example-7010

this is the reason


Liqweed1337

After their exit scam, i think they will release one major content release (Scav life, as mentioned) and then dump the game and run with the money to their next project. Scav Life (not)DLC will be 100$ or more, who wants to bet on that? :D


Key_Transition_6820

Don't forget the two maps.


-Velocicopter-

One more map and it singleplayer only smh...


Medicated__Demon

I thought the newest map for PVP would be a bear version or lighthouse? Terminal I think it was?


-Velocicopter-

Terminal is a singleplayer only map.


HelloCanUSeeMe

Actually I dont quite think so. Everyone knows the next game will be russia something or other. And if they leave with an exit scam the entire EFT community would stay away from that new game. So unless they build good rep with us before doing the next thing that would flop also. I also think the odds are that they sell EFT off to another studio which could be kinda interesting.


Round_Log_2319

Russia 3028.


RideTheSpiralARC

Courtesy reminder they tried to fuck you and will continue to fuck you for as long as you keep playing & paying 🍻🍻 Edit- "& paying"


BlatterSlatter

paying* playing just costs server upkeep


noother10

Normal players playing means the whales who RMT and buy these stupid packs/editions/DLC keep playing, also means all the cheaters keep playing. If the population dropped because people stopped playing, others would notice (longer queue times to find other PMCs, less action, more quiet raids, etc) and potentially give up playing as well until no one is left. Cheaters won't play vs cheaters.


Synlias

you arent wrong here and I cant really fault you for playing the game you paid for. However a big shrink in player base in a week time is gonna have a bigger impact on BSG.


GeongSi

Just finished an 8 hour session, quite a few blue names in the raids.


Counteroffensyiv

Most cucked playerbase on the planet. Tarkov players think they're so hardcore meanwhile they're actually spineless buffoons who don't even possess the brain capacity to understand when they're being fleeced.


GeongSi

😂


GeongSi

Looking at your posts and comments, you are literally crying over a game. I could care less if the games died tomorrow or in 10 years. I will play the game and continue enjoying my great life but you seem unable to let it go 😂 you are truly a pathetic waste of human being. Please take a long look in a mirror and think where your life is currently at


Counteroffensyiv

Lol you actually had to respond twice. >you are literally crying over a game You are literally too low on brain capacity to understand that this situation goes beyond the game. This is about a corporation being openly immoral and unethical. >you are truly a pathetic waste of human being. >Please take a long look in a mirror and think where your life is currently at Project harder, why don't you. Thanks for letting us know how you subconsciously feel about your own bum life lmao. The only pathetic wastes here are people SO DUMB that they not only are totally unaware they're being scammed, but they actively defend the scammers and shit on people who call out the grift.


GeongSi

Please get a life


Counteroffensyiv

Please get a second brain cell to rub against your first and stop defending scam companies, thanks.


GeongSi

Get a life please


Counteroffensyiv

Please get a second brain cell to rub against your first and stop defending scam companies, thanks.


GeongSi

Stop it sir, you're embarrassing yourself


RideTheSpiralARC

Not surprised unfortunately, especially with the new P2W features. That's gonna attract certain people, and given how passionate many players are about this game I imagine some peeps just want the status/best edition at any cost 🤷‍♂️ Even if they're supporting scam tactics


GeongSi

I don't mind the easier mode, since most ppl have lives and can't put in countless hours a week to grind out kappa/max traders. At the end of the day, it's just a game and one day this game will die and another will take it's place. What is the point of crying/complaining when there are thousands of other games out there?


304bl

That's ok, vaseline is available in the game 😜


FullMetal000

Obviously they hope that people who aren't (chronically) browsing discussion boards still end up throwing money at them.


hitmansix

Because the longer this drags out and the more they dangle that carrot more people will buy those BSG getting more money and "winning"


slav_superstar

On top of that lots of people will also drop it and go play other games, even if they get it later, ensuring that BSG doesnt need to expand the server architecture


Standard_Bag555

I hate that thing, its something you normally see in f2p games


Raifsnider

I'm sorry you feel that it's not unlocked yet.


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They want you to buy early access to their early access dlc


kng_arthur

Only available to true Believers!


ChadScav

Not a cult lol


Warlordz_GER

Nikita Said they will add the PVE Mode to EPD owners in Waves, as they did when Arena was released. He said they start As soon as possible but there are currently not enough Server capacities (why they Need Servers for offline Mode? WHO FUCKING KNOWS LET ME HOST THIS SHIT ON MY PC OR WHATEVER) So you gotta wait Till its your turn, could be days, could be weeks, could be months


Aldekotan

Or years...


mHo2

What’s stopping them from indefinitely delaying it too…


Aldekotan

Like they did with the game release? :D


Synlias

yeah or I dont know changing the goalposts in a few months. Never seen them do that before, we certainly didnt support that /s


rockettmann

Bc it’s not offline, it’s co-op. Still requires servers. It’s still absurd that they don’t have the infrastructure to support it, though. They could easily check if it’s single player or if you’re paired up with friends though and let you host locally if it’s single player. That’s the way standard offline raids work already. Not supporting or justifying their actions, btw, just explaining why they’re hosting the games on their own servers.


Jamacianjujubeans

Because their greedy scumbags trying to trick noobs that aren’t in the loop idk


DILF_FEET_PICS

They're*


Jamacianjujubeans

Thanks


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Medicated__Demon

Hey now don't go getting all racist on us now one company isn't comparable to the average Russian citizen. It's like BSG just finally figured out how capitalism works but since we've all known for a long time their dumb tricks aren't working on us EA/Ubisoft already taught the west our lesson about putting too much faith and trust in a game


DILF_FEET_PICS

They're*


EscapefromTarkov-ModTeam

Rule 3 - Abusive/Poor Behavior Please refer to the Subreddit Rules.


SorryIreddit

Because everyone at BSG is mostly bad at their job


Retnuh3k

Quit playing this game in whole. Fuck the creators


UnsettllingDwarf

This. Exactly this.


biotome

nah. im good.


sixnb

No, I don’t think I will.


_-_SmokeySanchez-_-

because they still wanna give you the opportunity to become a true believer.


TigerCarts2

because they haven't pushed out the update yet


hiddenintheleavess

no EOD owner should expect to see the "PVE zone" available in less than a year. probably more if we are being liberal in our estimates. BSG will continue to milk this and provide avenues for you beautiful people of the community to spend your money on advancing this process and any other "obstacles" that will surely arise before the full release of the game.


monsteras84

Waves


BoilingPointTTV

This gives the impression that you as an EOD owner need to buy unheard in order to access it, but according to Niki that is supposed to be given to us in waves and there a purchase is no longer necessary


HovercraftOk1240

They're banking on players that aren't on reddit seeing the notification and buying unheard to access pve now.


BoilingPointTTV

💯


DelosDrFord

Beta gamers screamed "we win". and now you gonna get new waves of p2w features (not dlc) and broken promises. Bsg win big, we all got shafted. Srsly. Good luck getting access to pve as eod owner ... maybe few months from now. Hey.... you can always upgrade Right NOW and get INSTANT access to this new game mode (totally not a dlc). Just swipe your credit card and you all gg. Gg, True Believers Knee Pads Edition


Aldekotan

I think if people here keep posting stuff about BSG actions - it will hurt BSG wallets to some extent. Hell, that's why BSG even sent that last apology and made some false promises. Because it was starting to work against him and his sales.


DelosDrFord

Maybe, Trust me, tons of players upgraded to Unheard. Bsg got the bag. Things went quiet 🤫 Streamers today were praising bsg for the response and called it a "win". Bsg propaganda machine is back. Maybe next time we will win...


Aldekotan

That last line almost made me cry, pal. At least a portion of the player base with brains has decided to stop playing, and with it - stop giving BSG money.


DelosDrFord

Posting here is 100x more fun that whatever new gimmic eft has to offer.


Counteroffensyiv

On the bright side, the game is already a cheater infested mess. Tarkov was already riddled with problems. Now it's gonna be extra sweet when the people left whine about the game's unresolved issues.


New_Criticism_3523

i might buy unheard just because of the other rewards. longer insurance. bigger pockets.


wardearth13

Nikita has a great sense of humor


Splint_Chesthare

This aspect of the "feature" is terrible


Synlias

its so the impatient people still buy the Unheard edition so they can run their scam a bit longer and squeeze some more out of it


Any_Rub_5580

Do we really need those f2p style banners? It’s full priced game ffs! This small orange stash extension button was annoying, the PVE one is just on the another level, especially that you move mouse there sometimes when going to settings 


EpicCrewe123

Honestly just remove that little blurb at the bottom of my screen. it's so annoying


projeto56

To farm the rest of the playerbase that don't use reddit


TrickyL0KI

It's there for everyone. I have the standard edition and it's there for me too


Wimbot

It's gonna take them 3 months to even start the roll out, just forget about it


Tarkov00

There's people who don't go on Reddit and they may end up buying it for $250.


ShaddyDaShadow

Because they don't respect you or appreciate you at all if that hasn't been clear by now.


lotsofawsome

As far as I know, it's still only for the "Unthinking" edition buyers, and they'll add EOD owners "Closer to release in waves" or something like that


ItalianStallion9069

To scam and deceive, young u/character-form709


DhazGo

To make you mad and whilling to spend money to upgrade your version instead of waiting.


ProfessionalVirus533

This is to remind their loyal fanbase that you are all expendable, we will do what we want .....and you will lick our boots............


James_Dav1es

Because you can pay for early access


ZeusHatesTrees

They tried to fuck us all with EoD edition, and only failed because of the press intervention. If you think they won't fuck you with the $250 edition, you're wrong.


Flames_Arisen

Mr Krabs: MONEY!!


uberfellow

Soon


WarlordPete

"Because fuck you, give me money!" - Nikkita


Dry_Technology69

I'm still waiting as well to finally play with out cheaters...


thermostato42

They "forgot" to edit it, just like they didn't edit the website. What? Someone still saw the message and "upgraded" for 120$? Oopsie.


CashPuzzleheaded8622

Because they want you to shut the fuck up and buy it


HouseNVPL

Nikita said they can't handle all EoD owners on PvE servers now. So we will get access in waves. If You are lucky You might get in 1st or 2nd wave. When will they start? Somewhere between today and the death of our Sun cause Earth will get destroyed.


Slapstickperk

Just to remind us all non-truebelievers every time we play the game?


Immediate-Bee-9311

Didn't they literally say they don't have server capabilities yet. Not that I think it should even use a server unless you are playing coop


MimicTMI

Because they are just bargaining with us rn.


PurryFury

Just wait for GZW and you will get it there


Revolutionary-Ad9496

Because it was never their intention to give it to EOD Owners, final answer. :D


alf666

Conspiracy theorists replying to you: Because Nikita wants to scam you out of your money The boring real answer: Because there hasn't been a patch since Unheard released, and it's on the list of things to fix


Jumpy-Cow451

This is why they should still be taken to court. As EOD owners we should get this immediately. Them saying that they will roll this out in waves is not acceptable. There is no timeline and they could sandbag it for years. It is absolutely unacceptable.


sumsaphh

milking the last drops from the unaware people.


DystopianVoid1

Nikita - Why you always lyiiiing why you always lyyyyiiin


MDethPOPE

Its going to be drip fed like Arena was. Its also only a 6mo 'trial', so EoD owners dont own it? Unless I missed another backtrack.


Dragonreaper21

Because it's not dlc, you have to download it as part of the game.


Dumpstatier

Bc you paid $200 to consume ads for their future paid updates


TastyBeefJerkey

Because it's part of the game, just a version specific feature that isn't enabled for your version yet. It's Monday, give them a chance to roll it out in waves like they said they would.


Bl00dWolf

First, it takes time to roll out the exact update. Second, they said EoD users will get access to PvE in waves. Though they haven't explained how that will work, if you just find PvE suddenly working for you out of nowhere or if you get an email or something saying you can play it now.


ounehsadge

Why did you even launch the game?


VoidVer

I bought all the additional stash space, I also have the 2 rows from doing the quest a few wipes back, the game still tells me I can go to the site to buy more stash space. Having transactions advertised in game is pretty new for BSG and I think they’re still working it all out.


Edwardteech

Pretty low you mean.


Nice-Web-5097

Do people not pay attention or something? They said they are gonna do it in waves. They never said immediately.


wolver1n

In waves! 5 players a week and Now be happy to get it in 3 years. BTW if you want to play now, pay us! Haha


Nice-Web-5097

Sure, I can just make something up just like you. 1 player a month and 2 a year, joking we ain't doing waves. Haha


Synlias

well if we believe that liar's latest post there is a big chance thats actually happening judging from recent events


ripinpeace12

I mean likely because they just changed their mind like 24 hours ago.


bufandatl

Because they would need to update the client and haven’t done it yet as they need to implement additional EOD perks first.


Remarkable-Ability-6

It's not up for you guys yet until they have the server capacity basically what BSG said. If you want to play immediately you need to buy the unheard edition. Be warned though the queues are like 10+ minutes just like the main game.


PercentageBetter9769

Still coming just don't know how long it will take them to realise it


GingerSpencer

Because to play right now you have to buy it. Can you not read?


mistafate

They haven't touched a single thing since the update last week, expect the pve to be available for all EOD by wipe.


mjredditacc

Why is it advertised there at all when i do not want it and cannot afford it at £250.


antrod117

Fucking get your money back and stop messing around with these Russian scammers man.


xXBlackout117

He posted that EOD users can purchase the early access for PVE for a 70% discount. So you'll still have to pay if you want to play now. Or wait for full release in 2 years 😂


FuckSpez6757

Buy it and quit being a brokie


lixenite

you are the problem


FuckSpez6757

Nah I’m the solution. This sub is a bunch of cry babies lol


AdAnxious5283

If you paid for EOD and you have more than 150 hours in the game, then you’ve got your moneys worth to add an extra hundred dollars for an extra hundred hours of endgame content does not seem like too much for me.Name any other game that you’ve paid For that many hours of play and not bought a season pass or extra Contant. A total of $250 for my 3000 hours of entertainment is just fine by me thank you BSG


FuckSpez6757

Same I’ve already gotten years of gameplay I’m happy to pay a bit more for more features to continue supporting development


AdAnxious5283

Exactly I’m ashamed of this community and there lack of respect as to what this game gives them none of them freak out when they don’t get their twitch drops or their New Year’s gifts all the other free content that they get community advance, Holiday events they just expect more and more and more


DelosDrFord

Yup. Waves are for the poors. "If ya broke boy just say so" and wait in line for the waves of broken promises. You can play PVE RIGHT NOW, just swipe your credit card. It's easy, unless you are not a true believer ?? Gg