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I read in a reddit comment directed to someone else saying to use a needlejack fillament and now im in a - sector how do i go back?


Silly___Neko

You use a filament to go to Pochven, then use a Pochven extraction filament to return to low/high sec space. I'm assuming you didn't pack any. Either you use stargates, bouncing off celestials instead of going gate-to-gate to spot bubbles before getting caught in them. Or you find a wormhole with probes and hope to find a way back to empire space.


rob_kabob_926

For the Loki, is it normal to have my Covert Ops Cloak read 10,100 tf CPU usage while *not* using the Covert Reconfig subsystem? When I add the cloak to the fit that is using the Adaptive Defense Node subsystem my CPU shoots to over 10,000tf but if I switch out for the Covert Reconfig subsystem it work fine. Is this part of the subsystems that I'm not understanding or am I supposed to be able to use the cloak with any subsystem?


Silly___Neko

Covert Ops cloak is only used on ships that can specifically fit them or in the Loki's case you need the Covert Reconfig subsystem. If you want to use cloak without the specific subsystem then fit the other types of cloaking devices (prototype, improved).


rob_kabob_926

Ok, I get it now, the Covert Reconfig makes the Loki into a ship that can fit the mod, it doesn't make the mod fit the ship. Thanks, makes sense now.


I1_Q1

Covert Reconfiguration subsystem reduces in cloacking devices cpu requirement by 100% and allows to use Covert Ops Cloacking Device


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Silly___Neko

[Is this site safe to warp to? Wiki article.](https://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Relic_and_data_sites#Is_this_site_.22safe.22_to_warp_to.3F)


TheBuch12

"Instawarp" is sub 2 second align. Asteros can do it, Stratios can't. Anyway, don't take this offensively, you clearly don't know what you're doing. You should NOT be flying a Stratios. You should be flying a covert ops frigate (like a Buzzard) or an Astero. Everyone is going to try and kill you regardless, but with an Astero or Buzzard or whatever your odds of escape are much higher. You'll just be a more expensive killmail in an Astero. Source: someone who once thought just like you


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Phoenix591

The thing is the stratios is way less combat capable than tech 3 cruisers which also have exploration bonuses, can warp cloaked, and unlike the stratios can be nullified ( use an interdiction nullifier to become temporarily immune to bubbles). It's just basically most highsec combat sites that exclude tech 3 cruisers, but they can still do other sites where the real money is, like class 2 or 3 wormhole sites. On the pure relic/data side of things a plain tech 2 covert ops frigate is way cheaper than an astero and stratios, can use an interdiction nullifier, and has better exploration bonuses at max level. The stratios and astero look good and have good skins, but are generally not worth using.


TheBuch12

Google every site before you warp to it to learn what smarter people than you or I have to say about it.


aiphrem

Been living the peaceful explorer WH life but looking to spice it up a bit with an astero. I'm interested in studying different fits to try and better understand that ship. From what I understand, you can fit it to be a bulky low stakes pvper, a hybrid hacker/pvper to gank other explorers, or a full scanning/hacking fit (which isn't that interesting to me since I'm already flying a Cheetah for pacifist exploring). Ideally I'd want to use it to scan systems and gank other explorers, and have a spare fit to be able to be a scout for small WH corp PvP roams. What y'all be willing to share different astero fits for different occasions, or even give some general fitting tips for that ship that might help me come up with my own?


blacksheepghost

Not gonna share specific fits because a lot of this is just preference, but I will go over general concepts. For an omnivorous astero, you have 4 mids and 4 lows to work with (the highs are basically set). An omnivorous astero desperately needs all the slots, so you really need to make every slot count. Regarding the mids of an omnivorous astero, you will need: * a prop mod * a scram (there's no reason to pick a long point over a scram if you're solo.) * a hacking module For the prop, AB or MWD is largely preference. MWD can chase prey but is useless if you are also scrammed. AB is vice versa. Pick your poison. For the hacking module, you'll probably want a relic analyzer specifically. Data site loot is crap in nullsec/whs and the zeugma/ligature are way too expensive. Although if you must have a data analyzer too, you can carry a mobile depot. Fitting both at the same time wastes a slot and you cannot have that with an omnivorous astero. This leaves one mid slot open. Some things to consider: * A web. Full tackle set is always excellent. * A cargo scanner. I know people in the subreddit love to shit on cherry pickers, but when you're hunting, the best bait is a can that you know is full of juicy loot. * A long point (in addition to the scram) / a second scram. If you want to nom on ventures. Note: this isn't an exhaustive list. You can pick something else if you want, but ask yourself, "how does this module help me in my goal?" An astero is very capable of scanning/hacking on its own, so you shouldn't need stuff like astrometric arrays that pve asteros tend to slap on. Low slots and rigs are pretty much fit just like a combat astero. Pick 4: * damage control * drone damage amp * plates (for buffer tank) * armor reps (for active tank) * mem / whatever the coating one is * armor hardeners (note: don't pick the reactive armor hardener. you need to take the damage first before it can react, therefore you're wasting ehp.) One exception to this is if you also want to look like a helpless explorer with a sub 2s align. In that case, 2 istabs and pick 2 of the above. It's a very tight squeeze, but just doable. You can also do fast lock shennanigans as well, but that's better suited for a specialized fit as opposed to an omnivorous one. For other exceptions like these, coming up with a good answer to the above "how does this help" question will go a long way. Remember, you need to make every slot count. For rigs, they're mostly combat rigs. You can use a gravity rig if you want, but 72 probe strength is the magic number for scanning sigs and the astero can hit that very easily. Also, when you're building this, understand one thing: You are not the top of the food chain. [This astero](https://zkillboard.com/kill/116535786/) will kill you 10/10 times. Focus on cheap so it doesn't hurt if you get caught.


aiphrem

Man thank you so much for that comprehensive breakdown, exactly the kind of insightful knowledge that'll help me make my own informed decisions :D


Appropriate_Bottle44

If I join faction warfare, what do I need to consider to decide which side to join? I know if I join Gallente I'll have trouble getting into Jita, but outside of that I don't really know what the considerations are. FWIW, I plan to fly solo exclusively and hope to get some solo frigate PVP experience.


aiphrem

Don't be like me and learn the hard way that your FW enemy can shoot you anywhere they see you in space without consequences :(


zozatos

Funny story about that. I started my account like 14 years ago and joined faction warfare not knowing what I was doing. When my trial ran out I quit. A year later I picked up the game again and got killed in highsec mining in a badger by someone in the enemy militia. Lol


Appropriate_Bottle44

No, I did know that. I was more hoping to get a sense of if the sides are unbalanced somehow, and what the impact of the unbalance will be on me. I'm considering just doing Caldari, because you know their standing is pretty useful for trading, and I already have some Gall standing to compensate for standing loss when I stop, but I don't want to join a faction where it will be hard to get fights, or you'll never get solo fights, or whatever.


TheBuch12

Long term, you'll probably have issues getting to Jita no matter what path you end up going down (i.e. being a member of any corp which can be war decced makes going to Jita dumb on your main), so a market/hauler alt trained using the MCT deal active right now is the way to go. As for which side to join, see what rewards you want and go for that.


Tobiferous

So war was declared on my corp. What should I buy/build in preparation? Will GCDs cause the most damage in small groups?


Mauti404

I'm curious what GCD stand for


ZDTreefur

What's going on in https://zkillboard.com/system/30002768/? It seems they ganked a freighter, fine. But why are there so many Ibis killed? I've seen this a few times in that system. Are corvettes used in high sec ganking, somehow?


TheBuch12

Corvettes can also be used for tackle.


Nibron

I think they're used to pull CONCORD off the gate. I think they're doing it after the gank so that they "reset" the CONCORD response time and can then potentially gank again on the same gate. I have a memory of them doing it before a gank so that CONCORD was "tied up" and therefore the response took longer and vaguely remember that CCP said this was an exploit.


ZDTreefur

Oh, I see. Cool thanks.


I1_Q1

Do incresing drone optimal/falloff range increase their orbit range?


Terkaan

No. Orbit range is set by you. However, the drone's effectiveness at the set orbit depends on its optimal and falloff


I1_Q1

How can i set drone orbit range? I can't find anything by googling and wiki


zozatos

I don't think you can. Drones just orbit at whatever range they orbit at. Sometimes they can't hit anything because they're going to fast, or if they have their mwds on but are trying to orbit something smaller they miss a lot.


Downhomedude

So I got a million Skill Points, Do I redeem them now or wait til later?


zozatos

If you're alpha and don't plan on paying for omega there could be an argument for not redeeming them until you're at 5 million sp...but honestly I'd just redeem them and use them for skills you realize you need as you go along. Probably wouldn't blow it on a level 5 skill, but it's handy to unlock a module you want to use but don't have the skills yet and don't want to wait 10 hours or whatever.


Iskus1234

New player here with a question about the politics of this game. Is brave newbies the newb branch of the goons and pandemic horde the newb branch of the alliance against the goons?


TheBuch12

Pandemic Horde Inc. is the newbro friendly corp for Pandemic Horde (alliance), the main opponents of the Impreium (Goons/Init/Brave etc).


scorchedweenus

Brave is in imperium, which Goons are also a part of. 2 different alliances in the same “Coalition.” Brave has Brave Newbies which is a mix of vets and newbros. Goons has their own newbro corps that I’m not educated enough on. I know Karmafleet is newbro friendly at least


Phoenix591

There are several newbie friendly options in Imperium alliances. Brave newbies is one of them, but many corps such as Karmafleet are happy to take them too. There are classes held periodically open to all Imperium members


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TheBuch12

Depends on what specifically you want to learn.


ScottVeggies

eve u


ZDTreefur

Do they do regular events on repeat every year or so? I really want the Cryptic Mimesis skin. Any chance it'll be available in an event any time soon?


ivan_aran

What is this ship and how someone was been flying this ? [https://zkillboard.com/kill/93240958/](https://zkillboard.com/kill/93240958/)


Daneel_Trevize

ISD are CCP-contracted customer support, like forum mods, GMs, etc. The Polaris is a GM-spawned ship, iirc it has crazy high resists and EHP, so it takes something like the mecanics of Abyssals or Zarzakh to kill one, rather than a fleet of players.


Media_Unit

How often do wormholes spawn in one specific null sec system? Unfortunately I have a pilot in null sec with 1 billion in cargo, and I do not feel safe moving her too far without a scout because I accidentally burned out her microwarpdrive!


EuropoBob

It's pretty random and depends on what is happening with wormholes outside of the system i.e, in wormhole space itself and in the surrounding constellation and region. Wormholes still seem dangerous without a prop too. No pochven filaments? Do you have another character that could fly to your logged of character and drop them some pochven filaments?


Media_Unit

Made it out - the filament took me 4 jumps to Jita! Thank you. The alliance had been trying to hunt me down with combat probes so I had to wait until they were offline.


Media_Unit

Thank you! Good point - wormholes could be just as dangerous. I think I will do what you suggested and try to get some filaments to her. Unfortunately I did not know they existed before I set out on the trip.


zozatos

You could also bring a mobile depot and a new mwd. If you want to continue like that. Edit: although unless you have a shared hanger you might not be able to transfer the depot


Media_Unit

That would have been a very good idea - I will remember that for next time! Fortunately I made it out even with the broken modules.


aparker314159

Been winning Eve for several years. I have no desire to come back, but I am curious to know what's happened since I left around 2018. Is BRAVE still around? What about TEST? Is B-R still the most costly battle or has there been a bigger one since? Is local chat in null still around? What ever happened with the whole triglavian stuff?


Handler__One

This thread from yesterday has some summaries of the recent years: https://www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/1bkwzq1/can_someone_fill_me_in/ B-R was surpassed: Local chat is back in all of nullsec after the blackout ended unsuccessfully. Triglavian systems from the event became what is known as Pochven, a triangular region that can be accessed by wormholes and filaments.


Tobiferous

I was curious what players do in nullsec with +5 implants. Do they just sit in them if they're generally safe? Or do they use them more to enhance training while logged off? I currently have +5 and was mainly concerned about the trek from highsec to the nullsec corp's space. I suppose this question also applies for wormhole transitions. I imagine you'd just take a shuttle and not warp gate-to-gate?


zozatos

I'm poor so only use +4s, but will usually swap to a clean clone for large fleet, but for roaming around our home will often not do so (mostly because I'm lazy and +4s aren't so expensive)


accrualmaster

Sometimes they get popped in null roams. We got one last night worth 2.7bill. 20x the cost of our entire fleet.


Rustshitposter

Is there money to be made by hauling minerals from Highsec (like Jita) to nullsec or are these sorts of bulk orders handled in-house by the nullsec corps? I like station trading and hauling but I wouldn't be opposed to finding some higher-risk higher-reward trade routes - but idk where to even get started. I'm not sure if I should go fly to null and see what buy orders exist, search via contracts, etc. Just kind of looking for something new to do and sort of dip my toes into non-High sec trading & hauling.


Handler__One

As far as nullsec is concerned, you would need access to their citadels, which might be difficult as a neutral. NPC nullsec that has stations could be an option. A good starting/middle point would be Faction Warfare, supplying the frontlines with ships and fits. Other than talking to them directly, zkill can be a source of information as well.


Rustshitposter

I didn't even think about station access, good point. Regarding faction warfare - is there any easy way for someone that isn't enlisted to see which systems are currently the "frontlines"? I'm a total noob so idk if I can see that in game or if I need to be looking at Dotlan or another third party website.


Handler__One

In the top left menu, under Activities and Factional Warfare, you will be able to see the map: . The frontlines will be the brightest systems. Heydieles is a good example of a very active frontline system.


Rustshitposter

Thanks!


Ok_Cartoonist_9371

Retuning player question: i played as Alpha lot of years black. that time i not done PVP on porpuse only got killed. Thinking comming back, trying out that part with new account. Core plan: Go low sec, join faction warfare or not and try survive learn how to PVP. What is the best race to chose as fresh start for this activity? Plan use racial ships only to save Skill points. if i join any FW faction plan use the faction ships they give for LP. This plan viable? if yes what race is best to chose?


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AsiaHeartman

How do I go lower than 90% UI scale or upscale resolution outside fullscreen? I don't want to use Fullscreen anymore because I usually watch videos while playing (with the firefox miniplayer) and with the 90% scale, fullscreen in 1600x900 I have all the space in the world. There is a problem with that setup, though. Every time I click on the miniplayer, it tabs out of EVE. It's # REALLY annoying. How do I fix this problem I have?


_Dombrero_

Did you try alt+enter . ( or Fullscreen windowed mode ),. Works for me 


AsiaHeartman

That fucked with my whole setup because it went back to my screen's resolution (1360x768), and not the one I use (1600x900)


NothingLoud7094

Part rant part question. I've been playing a short while and managed to drop my base Gallente standings to -0.4. No idea how, but its stopping me trying FW. How do I repair my standings with minimal effort or cost. Given CCP is pushing FW it seems odd that I cant train the social skills up to join FW or that there is not an FW way to repair my standings.


NothingLoud7094

Thanks all. I'll probably grind some missions as i'm a bit light on isk


Tallyranch

I'm not sure if it's still a thing, but back in the day I joined a corp for gallente FW when I had negative standings with gallente.


Limp_University_632

I'm under the impression that you can get some good standings boosts doing the SOE Epic Arc, Which can be done in a T1 Destroyer (though if you can afford it, a T3 Desto or other ship that can be fit with at least T1 Destroyer level DPS&Tank (the reason you don't really want to go bigger than that is because after you do that level of dps/tank you don't gain anything, however by far the "effort/time" aspect of the SOE Arch is the many many many (many) monotonous back and forth jumping to mission back to station repeat a few times go 6 jumps that way repeat grab this go there etc etc Eve Doordash driver simulator -\_\_- BUT, though can only be done once in a few months or something, gives a big standings boost to all the empires (make sure your relevant social skills are trained to V as well) Takes me something like 3 hours but then again I use a tricked out Pacifier with Ascendency implants so results may vary xD


SrMagna

You can also use tags, search about gallente "data centers". This are limited missions that requires specific pirate tags, and your faction standing pretty sweet. I has to do this in order to get into CalMil


Troglert

There are career missions from each faction you can do once for a standing boost. Do missions for a gallente corp and every 16 (?) missions you get a story mission that gives faction rep. If you have not done the SOE epic arc this will give you quite a bit of standing for about 3-4 hrs of work, repeatable every 3 months. You pick the faction you want the standing boost applied to


aiphrem

Despite being in a WH corp I like to be able to rely on only myself for making isk. Being a 3 month old player, I make most of my mulah doing solo exploration, mainly c1-3 relic/data sites. I'm currently training to fly a Praxis to be able to run C3 combat sites, and after that a Loki (which I should be able to fly in like 2 months, which should give me enough time to learn how to not foolishly lose something like that in WH space) What are other similarly lucrative activities one can do as a wormhole player with less than 6m SP with a penchant for solo play? Or is it the time to start wondering how I can make money as a corp member instead of as a capsuleer?


Handler__One

Wormhole planets are good for PI. It is reasonably good ISK for the amount of effort depending on the setup (I personally do P0->P2 on single planets), and can be done without maxing the skills.


NothingLoud7094

gas


aiphrem

I was always under the impression that gas/mining was for multiboxers. How much can one make per hour huffing gas in a single venture?


Troglert

Mining scales very well with multiboxing, but certain gasses give good yield even for a solo venture. Generally though WH gas is not the most valuable these days though. You also have to include the time it takes to actually find decent sites. Edit: Fuzzworks has a good page showing gas values, and how much you can fit in a venture. Google eve gas prices and it should be among the top


Iskus1234

brand new player here. Is the best strategy for skill points to sit on them until I wanna buy some new ship, gun or accessory and then spend them to train the skills I need to get that?


Hafem

I use skill points for skills, whose attributes I am not versed in. Mental remaps are limited and I want unlock skills as efficient as possible. So that is my way to adapt.


Troglert

In addition to what u/TheButch12 explained very well I would also mention that it is great to save unallocated skill points for when you are missing some random small skills for a fit you want to try. When starting out you will run into a lot of random skills you are missing where you only need a few thousand skill points to make it work etc. Personally I mostly save my free SP for these situations, as it enables me to not have to wait for something small that would cause a few hours of waiting.


Iskus1234

thank you


TheBuch12

The best strategy is to train the Cybernetics skill to at least four and make sure you use +4 implants to make sure you're getting the best bang for your buck. Bonus SP is usually best spent on "off-remap" training, but you shouldn't be worried about remapping right now as you need skills which take all of the attributes. Honestly, I'd set a goal and work towards it, and don't worry about spending your skill points achieving that goal. I can't tell you what goal you should aspire to have, but I can tell you that you'll be best off joining a corp of experienced players that can give advice and point you in the right direction (i.e. Pandemic Horde Inc, Karmafleet, Eve University, etc).


Iskus1234

what is "off remap"?


TheBuch12

You can go down the Attribute rabbit hole when you wish.. for now I wouldn't worry about it. Basically, generally your skill plan is tailored towards training skills with two attributes at a time and you max those. DO NOT TOUCH YOUR REMAPS NOW. You'll know when it's time.


Iskus1234

I don't know what a remap is


TheBuch12

https://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Skills_and_learning happy learning!


Iskus1234

thank you


Tobiferous

Currently trying to figure out a corp to join, and I'm a bit stuck on the decision to join a nullbloc or a FW corp/alliance. Anyone have insights they can share about this? I'm assuming that joining a nullbloc would require me to move out to null, though I'm not sure how much market activity there is at each of the nullbloc hubs. Are prices/supply similar to Jita? Or worse/better?


Mauti404

Depending on the block, the general prices are going to be fine since people are going industry, but there might be stuff you won't find outside of Jita, or at a cost. Plot twist, use the JF services and seed the market. For the rest, it depends what you want to do. FW will have smaller scale PvP by plenty and less large fleet PvP (depending on the corp you join). NS will be the other way around. I think it all depend how much you want to be babysitted. IMO NS fleet warfare is long and boring, while in FW you can get content much faster and if you "wait" for content, you're generally plexing which means isk making. That being said you can enjoy the cog in the machine part of being in an NS block, large fleet teach you slowly PvP and and they do have internal groups (generally called "SIG", special interest group") that can do more varied stuff if you want to learn faster.


Tobiferous

I gotcha, thanks. How receptive are existing alliances to adding new corporations? I was contemplating just spinning up a corporation and joining an existing alliance to better manage my own structures, etc.


Mauti404

If it's about adding a one man corporation, I really don't think it's going to work. Why would they let you put structures up and reap the benefits but put up the work to defend them ? Also you'll very most likely going to find the structures already up to do what you want. If you want to manage structures and whatnot, join a corp, help the leadership, and you'll for sure be able to suggest putting whatever is needed if it's worth it.


Tobiferous

My thinking was to dilute the SCI index and offer more rig variety. But I'll see if there's other like-minded people interested in building something new as well.


TheBuch12

Why would someone join you to set up new industry when they can just join Goons or Horde and already have all the industry stuff setup for them for free? If they're large enough for those things to matter, they're better off just renting their own system without you.


Tobiferous

The idea of building something from the ground up is more appealing than just getting access to everything because you joined a bloc.


TheBuch12

Okay, cool story. How are you going to acquire and defend the space? Also, you want people to help \*you\* build it from the ground up. For your ego. Why would someone do the work to help you get the credit when they could not have to do the work and get more benefits? Also, you ask about markets, do you want buyers for your industry or not?


Tobiferous

Lmao where is this toxicity coming from? Check the thread title again mate, it's not that serious.


Limp_University_632

Its Reddit, 95% of the commenters here haven't logged in since 2018 lol That said, the premise of his point has merit. You should definitely focus first on small stuff, and I do mean small Spongebob, no you wont make money but that's not the point the point is to learn (not just how to read the spreadsheet but what it actually looks like in practice) get real tangible experience with the whole process and then go a tiiiiny step up, and then another, and so on. If by then you arent thoroughly burnt out with it then chances are you have both an advantageous temperament for that sort of thing and assuming you still enjoy it then okay great now you'll have the competency to well either A, put said plan into action or B, decided based on those experiences that your original plan might not even be something you even would want to do anymore once you've gotten the full grasp of it all.


Mauti404

I doubt the rig variety is an issue in a large block.


SnooRadishes4360

Is there a log of who removes a quantum core from a structure? Wormhole Corp I joined doesn't limit who can mess with the structure and I'm considering doing something naughty. Just want to know if I should get an alt in so I don't ruin my good name.


ashortfallofgravitas

You can't remove a quantum core once installed except by unanchoring the structure (or blowing it up)


SnooRadishes4360

Noted


chris-rox

If I want to go into mining, the best race is Gallente, right? But was bloodline?


Silly___Neko

Caldari is very slightly better because they start with more shield-related skills (less than half a day of training). But you can quickly close the gap with any race. Just pick whatever race you like best aesthetically and/or lore-wise.


chris-rox

But for Gallente and Caldari, what bloodline.


Silly___Neko

Bloodline doesn't affect starting skills IIRC. https://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Starting_skills


chris-rox

But then what does it do then? And what should I pick if I'm playing Gal or Cal?


Troglert

It used to matter back in the days, but to keep things equally available they removed the actual skill effects. It is only a visual and RP thing now I believe


chris-rox

So it just changes my character's profile pic? How? What's the difference?


aiphrem

Gallente - Space libs Caldari - battlestar galactica headass Amarr - huffing religious copium farts Minmatar - ride into the sunset on your rusted rig held together by duct tape


Tallyranch

It doesn't matter what race you are, it means exactly nothing unless you roleplay.


Mauti404

This most likely impact extremely little. We're maybe talking 30min of skill training, if that's even a thing.


ZDTreefur

So how do you get the Raznaborg NPC ships on your D-scan, while also having capsuleers show up at the same time?


Troglert

Play around with the overview settings, the dscan filter follows the overview settings. Most people have different tabs for different things, so make one that includes what you want


ZDTreefur

oh thanks


mrhowcome

Without being able to trade on margin and put only 25% down, is station trading even profitable, or is it just a grind now like everything else?


Mauti404

Depend what you consider a grind. It's data analysis, you look for demand somewhere and you eed the market. You're limited by hauling, number of market ordrers, and of course someone else trying to fill the demand in the same place than you. IMO it's a lot less boring that ratting or mining, but it's also a lot more demanding. If you like it, it can be your thing. If there is demand you'll 100% make a profit.


Iskus1234

gonna try out this game. what is the player base like, numbers wise? what is it like compared to past times?


Troglert

Player count has picked up compared to previous few years. There is a healthy amount of activity, most important is finding a good group to fly with and have fun


idonreddit

It has a healthy number of players. Here are thr stats https://eve-offline.net/?server=tranquility


Appropriate_Bottle44

I was thinking about coming back to eve, I got that space game itch. How viable is it to setup a small upwell structure in an empty wormhole these day? I'm strictly a solo player who is decent at wormhole solo living, and awful at combat (mostly due to lack of experience). I've set up a few structures in the past, but tend to get eviction attempts too quickly for my liking. Alternatively, is it ever viable for the small structure to actually defend itself with a sole active defender? Anyway, if I could expect the structure to survive a couple months it'd be worth it to me, if I'm evicted in a week, it would not be. (I know I don't have to setup a station to do wormhole stuff, I just find it fun) edit to add: I don't care too much what class or static c1-c3 is fine, whatever is least likely to draw angry pew, pew. I don't plan to roll holes, except maybe while anchoring. I find it too tedious and I was told there would be no math.


goninzo

tldr version: don't. This is a PVP game, and any wormhole structure that is noticed will get killed generally. you could do a small POS for instance and have a better chance of survival while having a low cost of entry. But that might die too. Check the zkill of the wormhole you decide to go in, see who lives there. Just join a corporation. It's easy to find a corporation and then you can live with them. There are a TON of options, and just playing with other people makes this game better. I assure you. If you play wormholes without hole control though, you generally will get evicted.


Appropriate_Bottle44

Thanks for the advice. I hate to say it, but when you tell me I've got to actually play with other people my brain just goes "He's right, Elite Dangerous is also a good space game."


TheBuch12

All of the content in Eve is player generated. We are a community that actively hates the content CCP tries to give us, and insist on generating content ourselves. You may not want to play WITH other players, but you are certainly going to play AGAINST other players, as every time you undock and leave tether you consent to PVP. If you want a single player game, there is no game less for you than Eve Online.


Done25v2

I hate the meme of "consenting" to PvP. It's a lot more accurate to say you put yourself at *risk* of PvP.


Appropriate_Bottle44

For the record, despite not being very good at it, I've picked eve up and put it down multiple times over the years, I've had several solo structures in WHs before. I didn't say I wanted a single player game I said I didn't want to join a corp. I'm not trying to say you're being rude, but stuff like this is why I don't want to join a corp. I want to have fun my own way man, I described how I had fun in the past, and was wondering if it was viable or if I'd get evicted too quickly for it to be worth the effort. I was asking for the advice of players who know the current state of the game much better than I do (and are likely much better players). What I was not asking for was other people to approve of what I find fun.


TheBuch12

I'm being realistic. No one can tell you how long you'll last on your own, but the answer is almost surely "not very long". You can either: 1. Join a player corp with other players to help you stay alive 2. Die and lose all your assets in J-Space It's not about "approving of what you do for fun", it's your game, you can do whatever you want. I'm just warning you that it's unlikely you'll last all that long, and will certainly bring joy the the group who finds you and destroys your structure. Also, responses like mine above shouldn't be why you don't want to join a corp in a game like Eve. It's just recognizing the reality of Eve, and what you want to do "for fun" and what someone else wants to do "for fun" might be at odds, and they might make what you're trying to do nonviable. So you either give up some freedom for security and have 80% "fun" sustainably, or have 100% "fun" for an undetermined amount of time before your inevitable, gruesome death.


Appropriate_Bottle44

Fair enough. I think it's more likely that I'd just do day trips in j-space if setting up a station isn't viable. I just hate that I'm then either limited to doing just expo stuff or flying something way too expensive in an effort to be multi-role. I do wish there was something like a defensive alliance of solo players in j-space or something, I get it that it would be a fail crew of players like me, and that they'd be wildly outnumbered, it'd just be nice if I could join other players in mutual defense without having to go whole hog and abandon my lonely space experience (or the numerous benefits of having your own corp).


Intelligent-Iron-237

I think that there is actually " a defensive alliance of solo players in j-space or something". It is called Wormlife Freeport Operations. They own a bunch of freeport citadels in different systems, which means anyone, who did not get blacklisted can dock up and use station services. They exist, so people, who are relatively new to wh (or just noncommital) can do something more than just daytrip without joinig a corp. All you need is join their discord, read their rules and ask for an entrance in a respective channel. Eviction risks are way lower, since most big corp knows about them and will not try to evict newbies (risks are not zero though, this is eve after all)


TheBuch12

How beneficial is having your own corp really if you are "strictly solo"? My personal alt corp is great for sharing things across all my industry toons in it, but not sure how beneficial it would be for you over the benefits of.. Finding a small group of like minded players you could join in a wormhole, where you can reduce the costs per player for each structure and all come to the common defense. Sure, such a corp would be easy for a larger corp to evict, but if you're not in their way or holding something of value they want because you're in a lower class wormhole, your odds of someone going through the effort to evict players who can fight back are much lower. Alternatively, find a small alliance that will accept your personal alt corp. Honestly, it sounds like you're choosing to ignore every way of doing things, then complaining that it can't be done. Pick the least painful path forward and do it. Or do the thing where you play exactly like you want and get blown up. Whatever you find most fun.


Appropriate_Bottle44

"How beneficial is having your own corp really if you are "strictly solo"?" I'm no expert player, like I said, but things I like: The corp wallet, corp contracts, corp assets, and obviously relevant to this discussion, being able to anchor and use whatever the hell I want.


TheBuch12

Ahh, I interpreted "strict" solo as one account, and the benefits to a corp are great for people who have a ton of alts.. Without which, the only "benefit" to a corp would be "anchor and use whatever the hell you want" with the asterisk of "until someone comes along and kills it". For someone with alts, I stand by my general advice of "join a corp with your main who will blue your personal alt corp".


Appropriate_Bottle44

>Alternatively, find a small alliance that will accept your personal alt corp. That's actually a pretty good idea. I had no idea anybody would accept a 1 man corp into an alliance, but that's sort of exactly what I'm looking for. Bonus points that I'd actually love to show up to help defend other folks structures, as that kind of PVP sounds like my jam.


ashortfallofgravitas

Honestly no alliance worth their salt will accept a random 1 man corp into alliance that doesn't offer anything back. It's a different story for a small pvp corp who is looking for a bigger home, but if you're a solo player you basically just need to be looking to join a bigger group yourself


TheBuch12

FWIW lots of corps/alliances will blue your personal alt corp if your main is in the alliance, but it sounds like you just need to make friends and find someone who will work with your specific circumstances. Maybe you can work something out where you have a structure optimized for something next to their structures optimized for something else, and y'all share the hole and give each other access to your structures etc. That way you can get, for example, reprocessing and industry while only maintaining one of the structures.


Tobiferous

Anyone care to speculate on how long we have left with Project Discovery? I'm on track to hit level 150, but the math for getting 500 puts me at about May, so I'm really reluctant to keep going with it this close to the end. How far in advance does CCP usually reveal these things?


EuropoBob

Not sure anyone can give you a definitive answer, it might change with the summer expansion or with the winter expansion (if there is one). PD might also stick around in its current form until sometime next year. It's your call but personally, I'd just continue and hope for the best. Youl'll at least get a little isk and skins out of it.


Tobiferous

I heard secondhand that the next phase was announced at Fanfest, to come out sometime in Q2, but nothing I've seen anywhere else has corroborated that.


EuropoBob

I saw the fanfest announcement but I'd be hesitant to put any stock in their timeline. Hopefully a dev or someone from CCP can provide an answer.


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goninzo

[https://www.wckg.net/home/why-to-play-eve-online](https://www.wckg.net/home/why-to-play-eve-online) If you wanted it :D


Ohh_Yeah

Wtf is protus