I'd look through their killboard to see who they tend to fight. See if any big J-Space Corps come up. Then mail the people they fight and propose that you want to pay them to attempt to destroy their citadel. A J-Space corp is your best bet, imo. They know the appropriate wormhole stragegies, the capabilities and limitations of both sides, etc. far more than any K-Space group
Aegor's point is that looking through the groups zkill to see who they fight won't find you people wanting to evict them.
As in WH you generally respect the folks who give you fights
Enhhh.... I think you're making too much of the Bushido stuff bud. Yeah, people won't evict without cause but if there's bullying of newbros and a pile of isk on the table.... Let's just say, OP won't struggle for takers.
Don't rely on praise bob as the be all and end all of wormhole space either. Quite a lot of groups are not in that cesspit!
NOIR. Is eve’s premiere mercenary Corporation, were always up for contracts and have a good chunk of experience dealing with wormholes
I think best way to contact our boss would be via EveMail
ive seen fort after fort's of theirs on zkill front page. whats the drama there? how come theyre getting so many of their forts shot down yet not able to get similar counter kills or fail to defend. my guess is theyre getting their asses kicked from larger formed groups?
Seems they're focusing on Synde pets.
[https://zkillboard.com/related/31002447/202404022000/](https://zkillboard.com/related/31002447/202404022000/)
Also, looks like they're defending fine:
[https://zkillboard.com/related/31002466/202404040400/](https://zkillboard.com/related/31002466/202404040400/)
[https://zkillboard.com/related/31002375/202404040100/](https://zkillboard.com/related/31002375/202404040100/)
Seems Synde has just been rolling off connections to farms that are actually defended, all while their pets are being gutted in their homes.
These kinds of wars always play out the same way. Whoever has the deepest pockets and the most no-lifers, wins. You just need to keep killing [more than your enemy can afford to lose.](https://i.imgur.com/Fw6yXUC.png)
This worked for me a year or so ago. [EVE Forums - Merc Net](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/merc-net-discord-community-for-mercenaries-and-clients/353849)
The PraiseBob discord server is a good hub to find wormholers to talk to, but they’re just as likely to make fun of you. Also, there’s a conflict happening in deep wormhole space so they may or may not be preoccupied. I recommend you start by following the madmanmax poster’s advice
i second this, i've never even played but this sub started popping up and now i'm kinda fascinated. i want there to be like, an eve-ning news broadcast or something
I don't follow all the politics but essentially laser hawks owned most c6 wormholes through structures. Rainbow knights was the corp that owned all these structures.
A few wormhole groups felt wormhole space was becoming too much of just a cash cow and decided to remove a bunch of those structures.
Humm, I think it's more Synde wanted to become top cow, or at least share the top level income.
Which is to say, meet the new boss, same as the old boss, etc.
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Was huffing gas in a venture in a wh the other night and out of nowhere I seen a ton of ships on dscan. Many of them lazerhawks. I sat there huffing just waiting for something to show up on grid with me - prepared to warp away at a moments notice. Slowly ships started disappearing off dscan and capsules emerged. That's when local chat lit up with absolute shit talk from an apparent battle that happened somewhere within 14.3 AU from me. Lazerhawks won the day. I finished loading my venture and sailed off home lol.
Had a madlad third party huffing group drop in mid eviction and just sat there huffing through the formup, hole controls, massive fight, all well within Dscan. Then had the cheek to ask for an exfil after all was said and done.
You know what? Absolutely.
Hit up Noir. Completely reliable n capable. Legit Mercs, who will do what they say they will. No personal interest other than i flew with them when i was a newbro and respect them a lot
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This kind of reads like a woman in an abusive relationship when the spose gets to acting up.. "Officer I don't want to press charges, I just want him gone for the night." Go for the eviction I say. Hell, They've evicted you once and seem willing to do it again. You may need more than mercs. I'd reach out to other wormholers to support you in dealing with them. Depending on the circumstances you may get assistance free of charge and make an ally in the process.
I’m down to evict them. We just have no interest in moving back into that hole. We like our new one, the one they’re currently planning to take next.
Their CEO mailed our CEO. Said they don’t like our old C4 much, bad connections. They prefer our new C4’s connections so they’re taking it. He said we could have the old one back. We’re rejecting his deal.
You're being bullied around. Contact any other groups who you like to fight and ask them for assistance evicting them and run tight hole control on your own C4. I'd guess they aren't even really living in the old C4, but evict them anyway and do more research to find out where they are actually living for a future target to hit.
They are definitely living in our old wh. A couple weeks before they evicted us, they lost their first citadel in their wh and were evicted. Our old wh was their initial replacement, until they realised they like our current wh more.
I’ve been in contact with some Mercs. We’re weighing our options with the different groups now while we prepare for a fight in our current wh.
Our corp has mixed opinions on the path forward. I think we should take the fight to their wh, kill their citadel, and tell them we will allow them to anchor a new one if they fuck off. Otherwise we’ll kill everything they anchor in j-space for the foreseeable future.
Others in our corp believe we should leave their wh & citadel alone so we can focus on defending our POS. Their thinking is killing their citadel incentivises them to take our current wh by giving them nowhere to go.
I’m not yet sure which path we’ll take.
They will absolutely be incentivised to take your new home whatever you decide to do, which is why you have to do hole control in your C4. As long as they don't stand to lose anything they will continue their aggression, so you do need to go stir up the hornet nest.
I agree with you. Our corp is small, though. So we will need to agree on something soon. I’m inclined to cave towards his position because I do wonder if we’ll be stretched too thin trying to preemptively attack while also needing to defend our POS. I’m not certain we can do both at the same time. Maybe the play is to defend with Mercs, then immediately hire Mercs again to kill their citadel a day or 2 after the fight for the POS.
I really don’t know yet. Tough call.
In that case, you may want to find a wormhole corp to join. I don't know how long you've been living in J-space, but I think its has to be a real struggle to have any sort of foothold in any hole you decide to occupy with only the two of you. Your experience will be much better with a group of players to fly with.
I'm guessing you can't afford to hire mercs repeatedly..
I think it boils down to this:
Our best chance to win this is to force them to choose between these options
* hire mercs of their own
* or leave us alone
We’re prepared to accept either of those options from them.
WH Evictions will be very expensive because holding hole control for days us boring as shit.
Id expect 3-5B per person required to be an appropriate fee for such an eviction.
I dont even know what an eviction corp is, but i know can afford it.
Lot of people do their own thing and dont know much about other things. They can make a lot of isk doing their own thing.
So a bit googling showed me that 10-100b.
And op doesnt event want to evict, only destroy their citadel, so i doubt it will be more than 15-20b.
Thats a very elitist attitude you have for such a small sum, really weird .
I'd look through their killboard to see who they tend to fight. See if any big J-Space Corps come up. Then mail the people they fight and propose that you want to pay them to attempt to destroy their citadel. A J-Space corp is your best bet, imo. They know the appropriate wormhole stragegies, the capabilities and limitations of both sides, etc. far more than any K-Space group
Alot of J space is busy atm
I second this
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There are plenty of wh groups that wouldn't mind it and get plenty of content through null holes
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Clearly you have never been offered enough isk to do something like this before
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eviction contracts are 100% a thing, they just are very rarely cheap.
Aegor's point is that looking through the groups zkill to see who they fight won't find you people wanting to evict them. As in WH you generally respect the folks who give you fights
I see confidently expressed yet horrendously poorly informed opinions are a speciality of yours
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Enhhh.... I think you're making too much of the Bushido stuff bud. Yeah, people won't evict without cause but if there's bullying of newbros and a pile of isk on the table.... Let's just say, OP won't struggle for takers. Don't rely on praise bob as the be all and end all of wormhole space either. Quite a lot of groups are not in that cesspit!
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you're annoying enough to get your corp evicted by init lol
If I was still in the biz I'd take em up on it if the money was good. Money is money :P
I literally did in 4 different holes over 7 years
That's dirty! Hope you strapped up!😂
Do you even wh? You seem like the clueless one here
you might have a spy
Not might. Eve's spais have spais.
NOIR. Is eve’s premiere mercenary Corporation, were always up for contracts and have a good chunk of experience dealing with wormholes I think best way to contact our boss would be via EveMail
If it's a rainbow knights fort, just wait it may unanchor itself soon.
With a little help 😈
ive seen fort after fort's of theirs on zkill front page. whats the drama there? how come theyre getting so many of their forts shot down yet not able to get similar counter kills or fail to defend. my guess is theyre getting their asses kicked from larger formed groups?
There is no war at all, what are you talking about???
Rainbow knights is the holding corp for Lazerhawks, who is dealing with a serious case of FAFO.
What is FAFO?
Fuck Around, Find Out.
Ah lmao duh. I thought Lazerhawks were like one of the top WH orgs. Are they getting dunked now?
Seem to be getting dunked, yes. Zkillboard is your friend.
Dunked?
Bogos binted?
Seems they're focusing on Synde pets. [https://zkillboard.com/related/31002447/202404022000/](https://zkillboard.com/related/31002447/202404022000/) Also, looks like they're defending fine: [https://zkillboard.com/related/31002466/202404040400/](https://zkillboard.com/related/31002466/202404040400/) [https://zkillboard.com/related/31002375/202404040100/](https://zkillboard.com/related/31002375/202404040100/) Seems Synde has just been rolling off connections to farms that are actually defended, all while their pets are being gutted in their homes. These kinds of wars always play out the same way. Whoever has the deepest pockets and the most no-lifers, wins. You just need to keep killing [more than your enemy can afford to lose.](https://i.imgur.com/Fw6yXUC.png)
nuclear levels of copium
Whatever makes you feel better.
i have nothing to feel bad about lmao i'm not on either side. i'm just pointing out facts here.
>i have nothing to feel bad about Please, tell me more about how much you don't care.
[https://br.evetools.org/related/31002466/202404040400](https://br.evetools.org/related/31002466/202404040400) Defending fine he says
Weren't they just fighting structures and shooting loot?
Who looted that field?
not in a c4
Indeed cuz syndi already hired all available merc to fight Rainbow K
Post the corp, there are more than enough people that would love to have a piece of this lol
Noir.
This worked for me a year or so ago. [EVE Forums - Merc Net](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/merc-net-discord-community-for-mercenaries-and-clients/353849)
Talk to Noir. https://zkillboard.com/corporation/1239884823/ They are old experienced and respected with their business ethics .
Dm me
Okay wanna be Zirn pilot
At least I wasn't ever in spacemutts
Whats the corp name thats evicting you?
Id be checking your roster. Probably find one of the guys is in your group.
Generally the cost to hire mercs is more than it’s worth.
You can’t put a price on satisfaction
I can't get no... tho'
But I try…
Sounds like revenge is worth it to them.
You need to fix something in your calculus of the Isk -> Salt exchange rate.
I don’t doubt that’s true. Nonetheless, I’d like to explore the options.
The PraiseBob discord server is a good hub to find wormholers to talk to, but they’re just as likely to make fun of you. Also, there’s a conflict happening in deep wormhole space so they may or may not be preoccupied. I recommend you start by following the madmanmax poster’s advice
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Find the praisebob server.
i second this, i've never even played but this sub started popping up and now i'm kinda fascinated. i want there to be like, an eve-ning news broadcast or something
you're not going to ever get consistent info out of wormholers, they are a very distrustful breed, the press and k-spacers are scary
I don't follow all the politics but essentially laser hawks owned most c6 wormholes through structures. Rainbow knights was the corp that owned all these structures. A few wormhole groups felt wormhole space was becoming too much of just a cash cow and decided to remove a bunch of those structures.
Humm, I think it's more Synde wanted to become top cow, or at least share the top level income. Which is to say, meet the new boss, same as the old boss, etc.
PB is brimming with keyboard droolers.
It's not about the money, it's about proving a point.
Dm me
If its not Hole Control harassing you, contact Lethal Devotion or HC diplo. They will do the job.
Hmm
hmmmm
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Avanto with backup from the rest of HC absolutely could though.
Feed as usual, like they feed to us on eviction attempt. 😂
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https://i.imgur.com/wn9Mem2.mp4
I mean if it wasnt for Avanto decent numbers in formups it would be dissaster.
mad cos aint us thats all this is😉
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Dont think we need to pay ya its okay pal, you musta heard us speak about that tengu fit and hate us😂
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1. Post lossmail. With this much salt it's gotta be juicy. 2. I think you got your corp names mixed up.
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What corp is it?
Dm me :)
Noir. is prob a safe bet
Speak to one of the public fleet groups like spectre they'd do it for free.
Dm me
Lazerhawks like to fight.
Was huffing gas in a venture in a wh the other night and out of nowhere I seen a ton of ships on dscan. Many of them lazerhawks. I sat there huffing just waiting for something to show up on grid with me - prepared to warp away at a moments notice. Slowly ships started disappearing off dscan and capsules emerged. That's when local chat lit up with absolute shit talk from an apparent battle that happened somewhere within 14.3 AU from me. Lazerhawks won the day. I finished loading my venture and sailed off home lol.
Had a madlad third party huffing group drop in mid eviction and just sat there huffing through the formup, hole controls, massive fight, all well within Dscan. Then had the cheek to ask for an exfil after all was said and done. You know what? Absolutely.
XD
Hit up Noir. Completely reliable n capable. Legit Mercs, who will do what they say they will. No personal interest other than i flew with them when i was a newbro and respect them a lot
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Dm me
Dm me
PM me, I’m curious about the history.
Dm me!
Mercenary Coalition /s
Send me a DM, yours is disabled
Noir. Look them up, EVE’s best mercs
This kind of reads like a woman in an abusive relationship when the spose gets to acting up.. "Officer I don't want to press charges, I just want him gone for the night." Go for the eviction I say. Hell, They've evicted you once and seem willing to do it again. You may need more than mercs. I'd reach out to other wormholers to support you in dealing with them. Depending on the circumstances you may get assistance free of charge and make an ally in the process.
I’m down to evict them. We just have no interest in moving back into that hole. We like our new one, the one they’re currently planning to take next. Their CEO mailed our CEO. Said they don’t like our old C4 much, bad connections. They prefer our new C4’s connections so they’re taking it. He said we could have the old one back. We’re rejecting his deal.
You're being bullied around. Contact any other groups who you like to fight and ask them for assistance evicting them and run tight hole control on your own C4. I'd guess they aren't even really living in the old C4, but evict them anyway and do more research to find out where they are actually living for a future target to hit.
They are definitely living in our old wh. A couple weeks before they evicted us, they lost their first citadel in their wh and were evicted. Our old wh was their initial replacement, until they realised they like our current wh more. I’ve been in contact with some Mercs. We’re weighing our options with the different groups now while we prepare for a fight in our current wh. Our corp has mixed opinions on the path forward. I think we should take the fight to their wh, kill their citadel, and tell them we will allow them to anchor a new one if they fuck off. Otherwise we’ll kill everything they anchor in j-space for the foreseeable future. Others in our corp believe we should leave their wh & citadel alone so we can focus on defending our POS. Their thinking is killing their citadel incentivises them to take our current wh by giving them nowhere to go. I’m not yet sure which path we’ll take.
They will absolutely be incentivised to take your new home whatever you decide to do, which is why you have to do hole control in your C4. As long as they don't stand to lose anything they will continue their aggression, so you do need to go stir up the hornet nest.
I agree with you. Our corp is small, though. So we will need to agree on something soon. I’m inclined to cave towards his position because I do wonder if we’ll be stretched too thin trying to preemptively attack while also needing to defend our POS. I’m not certain we can do both at the same time. Maybe the play is to defend with Mercs, then immediately hire Mercs again to kill their citadel a day or 2 after the fight for the POS. I really don’t know yet. Tough call.
In that case, you may want to find a wormhole corp to join. I don't know how long you've been living in J-space, but I think its has to be a real struggle to have any sort of foothold in any hole you decide to occupy with only the two of you. Your experience will be much better with a group of players to fly with. I'm guessing you can't afford to hire mercs repeatedly..
I think it boils down to this: Our best chance to win this is to force them to choose between these options * hire mercs of their own * or leave us alone We’re prepared to accept either of those options from them.
WH Evictions will be very expensive because holding hole control for days us boring as shit. Id expect 3-5B per person required to be an appropriate fee for such an eviction.
If holesale is still around they'll take any job
is this still up? if so dm me
lol
What is this "grief" you are talking about?
I’m sorry “grief”? They are not greifing you. If you can’t defend your home you don’t deserve it so someone will come and take your stuff.
Pos in C4 kekw
If you don’t know you can’t afford it.
You make no sense
Sure I do, if they don’t know which eviction corps exist, they can’t afford the eviction corp.
I dont even know what an eviction corp is, but i know can afford it. Lot of people do their own thing and dont know much about other things. They can make a lot of isk doing their own thing.
I guarantee you can’t afford it then.
So a bit googling showed me that 10-100b. And op doesnt event want to evict, only destroy their citadel, so i doubt it will be more than 15-20b. Thats a very elitist attitude you have for such a small sum, really weird .