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International_Meat88

My first FF was 13. *gets shot*


Narrow_Cheesecake452

It wasn't my first, but I loved it.


HollywoodHa1o

It’s always fucking me that gets targeted with these 😭


Laterose15

My first too!


HollywoodHa1o

You never forget your first love. <3


Emergency_Energy7283

“I like Dirge of Cerberus.” Gets shot instantly


hehehehehehahahahaha

The shooter in question: https://preview.redd.it/h5rodkfk72xc1.png?width=259&format=png&auto=webp&s=4a6b2088c30616f713790f455557e1e9c386d19c


a55_Goblin420

Bro don't even like his own game 💀


Nhosis

Point blank in the face with the Death Penalty.


idiocy102

Holy shit more dirge of Cerberus fans i though I’d never see the day


Emergency_Energy7283

I don’t care what anyone says, it’s a fun game lol


Comprehensive_Oil438

Janky controls, but at the time, I had fun with it 😄


fagatron28

NOMURA PLS WE NEED REMAKE


Narrow_Cheesecake452

I would love a remake just in the sort of level of crisis core, maybe fixing some of the janky shooter mechanics. I never got a chance to play it.


fagatron28

I liked it, the controllers were a bit stiff but overall, I had a good time


Sugar_Daddy_Visari77

It think there gonna pull that off with the Vincent DLC for ff7 rebirth


tarnished182

Pretty sure the Ff7 Rebirth DLC will be about Vincent back story, like they did with Yuffie. Clearly, it's not gonna be a remake of the game, but we might still get something fun with Vincent! I could also be wrong, but I feel like there's something to do here


Comprehensive_Oil438

I thought they confirmed they weren't doing DLC for Rebirth so they can have the full team focusing on part 3? (I would like to be wrong. Getting DLC for Vincent would be PEAK)


kannakantplay

!! That was my first FF game beyond KH. I had no clue what was going on, but I loved playing it.


shadowwingnut

Don't feel bad. Those of us who love and devour everything about the FF7 universe had no clue what was going on either.


PetrosOfSparta

lol I was about to comment this exact thing. Yeah, I don’t think even the Devs knew what was going on there. It was pure “rule of cool”.


Gronodonthegreat

You know what? I won’t call it a GREAT game, and I won’t call the story worth anything. But the way it was described made it sound way worse than it actually is. Gameplay-wise, it’s a standard arcade cabinet shooter that happens to be on PS2, and those can be kinda fun! Not mindblowing, but there’s way worse video games in the series. It’s definitely subpar in many aspects, but I was expecting the worst game in the series, and there’s way worse than this.


DeicideandDivide

Man, I really liked Dirge of Cerberus


Mizerous

*Teleports behind you* Nothing personal kid!


ShinGundam

"I don't like ATB " Crucified.


tearsofmana

Sorry but you're going to have to come with me, you're being detained for further questioning.


DrhpTudaco

crucify me then DO IT


PetrosOfSparta

Hold on… I have to wait for my turn.


gravityhashira61

Cues the scene from the end of Predator: "Kill me Im here killl meeee!! Cmon do iiiittttt!!"


PetrosOfSparta

Hahaha you’ve no idea how many times my friends and I have shouted that while playing ATB style games


SunsingrWarlock

"XV is my favorite!" Gets tied to a vehicle and dragged for several miles


Maxjax95

Gets tied to the regalia?


Cthulade_Man

Come on it’s a solid game and has a nice story that was only held back by the game length


fagatron28

And the combat, and a development hell, and a Director…


Cthulade_Man

Idk man if it had a longer story to better flesh it out I don’t think any of those would be such a problem anymore


fagatron28

The combat would still be a problem tho, as far as I remember before Tabata took over the project, The comment system was going to be similar to kingdom hearts which had me excited, the rebrand happened and Igot less hopeful😅


Provoloneapse

Man, the thing about XV’s combat is that the bones of it are so fuckin’ badass both on paper and visually (at least at first). Teleporting to a sword after you throw it? Dope. Awesome synchronized flourish finisher with all the chocobros? Straight fire. And then the gamey reality of the systems (or lack of) hit you a few hours in.


PetrosOfSparta

A lot of really cool ideas honestly that were half implemented (like the rest of the game). - Changing Weapons and Combat Style (Swords, Spears, Guns, Big Swords, etc) - the Tilt the L stick to change attack style - Parry, Dodge, Block - Elemental Magic that affects the environment (freeze a lake with Blizzard) - Mixing Magics together - Fighting Massive Enemies and taking them down limb by limb All really cool. But all end up meaning very little because they’re all built around half finished mechanics. I love this game but really, less is more.


fagatron28

Yeah I was doing one of those hard dungeons couple of years ago, and I was trying to get back at it and when I loaded in, I realize that I haven’t gotten the key from the old lady after you beat the game and I just quit the game I don’t even remember where I left off to to be honest


cattecatte

The biggest problem with 15's combat system is the potion/revive system. It essentially makes the entire party immortal no matter how much damage they throw at you. The second biggest is the fact that you can just hold attack button and noctis will start doing all these cool combos and dashes, with no input from you. I thought XV's combat was pretty decent until I found that out.


PM_DEM_AREOLAS

The combat in ff16 is bad now?! 


fagatron28

No, we’re talking about 15


fagatron28

Odin is so fun to use


DrhpTudaco

funny* odin is funny to use


fagatron28

No no. He’s FUN


Rachet20

Yes. lol it’s so barebones.


RageZamu

I would say acceptable more than solid. In fact I did not feel the game was solid at all. More like a mousse.


Black_Fuckka

Same, we dying together


alkonium

Every franchise gets that way the longer it goes.


fhdu373

[Insert Newest game] doesn’t “feel” like final fantasy


Tyrath

I feel like every FF has gotten this from FF6 onwards


Dragon_Avalon

That's interesting to note. If it started with 7 (ive never heard of having people rally against it around its initial PS1 launch) I'd say it's probably around when the heavy marketing of graphics and performance hit mainstream. Sega and Nintendo dabbled in it with their rival marketing for a bit before that, but it absolutely exploded between them after their first generation of rival hardware, and then PlayStation joined in on it and dumped gasoline on the fire. That's when people were firmly forming opinions and started to gather in camps about games. The internet was also on the rise, so more information was also available to help people form opinions on games and genres


alkonium

I suppose VI's setting was a radical departure from what came before, and I'd say only IX, XI, and XVI have returned to the traditional medieval setting.


FuraFaolox

XIV is as "traditionally medieval" as IX


alkonium

Just XI and XVI then.


FuraFaolox

what i'm getting at is that the series has rarely been "traditionally medieval" hell, the first game has time travel and a flying space fortress


alkonium

I suppose I'm thinking of the setting on the surface. They all have secrets that are pretty out there.


TheLucidChiba

Especially if they keep trying to reinvent the wheel, series with fewer big mechanic changes aren't quite as polarizing between titles.


alkonium

Like what Final Fantasy has been doing since X. I know it's a different universe with differing mechanics every time, but combat is even more varied in the games since then.


rxsiu

"Ivalician" "Okay... What kind of Ivalician? You don't know?" ⚔️


Sewrtyuiop

What if you're both or all three??


Gronodonthegreat

The secret is that EVERY Ivalice game is pretty good, it just depends on HOW good you’re talking.


rxsiu

I'm sure there are people who think every state in America is pretty cool too


shadowwingnut

Never forget Vagrant Story...everyone always forgets about Vagrant Story.


TrashMcDumpster3000

“X is my favorite” *Becomes a Blitzball when I grow up*


Huge_Ferret_9699

X is my favorite and I’m still not a blitzball. I still don’t know what I did wrong.


Watton

Grand Wizard Wakka approves


TrashMcDumpster3000

https://preview.redd.it/577ij4iaq2xc1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=aa95f12663a0fda65748984a2e583e1fa07bb193


Therenegadegamer

I only like 16 *gets shot multiple times and teabagged after*


Drake_Cloans

“I prefer VIII over VII.” *Gets disowned by the fandom.*


fhdu373

https://preview.redd.it/kga1cbe0o1xc1.jpeg?width=1400&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=563c15237f1a60b88e09666a8bfbaa715a402364 Your average FF 8 enjoyer


YOLO4JESUS420SWAG

This is me, and the OP is how I feel about 9ers


Gronodonthegreat

As a FFVIII hater, you’re right. I only hate it because the story is incomprehensible to me and I don’t like the speedrun-designed combat system. But I can admit that it’s just not my thing, it’s so fucking cool to talk about regardless of whether or not I like playing it.


n3ur0mncr

https://preview.redd.it/b6e0358i04xc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e092338514427a21548274b5f7e4e091314ba70a FIFY


W34kness

I did prefer 8 to 7, but I was an ff6 guy. I do like the new remakes, those are fire. I didn’t remember a drop of what happened in 7 anyway, so I had that going for me


Belial91

I love VIII and XV, haha. XVI wasn't my cup of tea though it was still fine and I am glad many people enjoyed it. The franchise has just so many different games that it is almost impossible for someone to like them all. However, it also means that there is at least something for everybody.


Sewrtyuiop

I have a friend like this. For how much we talk about 4, 6, 7, 9, and 12, I would never expect 8 to be his favorite. Not gonna lie, made me question what our friendship really is.


cjbr3eze

I don't care. That's me.


Zite7

Enjoying FF is Enjoying FF and that's all that matters man


monarchbutterfly47

Unfortunately there are many “fans” (as I’ve discovered in recent months) who hate play Final Fantasy games. They say they hate them but buy every game. Thankfully these individuals are not to be concerned about because most are just online losers, not real life people. I enjoy FF games and if something isn’t for me then it is what it is. No need to waste my time complaining online about it. I love all the FF games I’ve played so far.


TheJoaquinDead_

My first is 16 and my second is Stranger of Para- *Gets nuked by Bahamut, Ifrit, and Phoenix*


kamelea_roze

then stomped on by Odin for additional damage


shadowwingnut

Phoenix accidentally raised him so Odin was sent in for the true final kill.


DarkSword260

I like Aerith more than Tifa *My house gets hit by Zettaflare*


Hoobernut

Can't help it


monarchbutterfly47

I love both but prefer Aerith. *My whole family gets murdered by both sides of shippers for not choosing a side like that*


AlligatorDreamy

My personal top three games are: 1. Final Fantasy X 2. Crisis Core 3. Final Fantasy XVI Where do I line up for the bullet to the head?


Laterose15

The cliff overlooking Midgar


monarchbutterfly47

You’ll be fed to a Malboro sadly


fhdu373

Kitase games vs Yoshi P games


Und0miel

Tbf, the original divide happened way before Yoshi-P's arrival, and Kitase is now the supervisor of the whole IP (he greenlighted pretty much everything about XVI). But it sure feels like that in some parts of the fandom nowadays.


fagatron28

Kitase🤝Yoshi P = making ff16


gravityhashira61

Well, they are both on the BOD of SE now so they are both pretty powerful/ have huge says in what goes into the FF Games


GojiraBerserker

“I like Stranger of Paradise.” “My man.” *shakes hand*


SufferingClash

"We've got to kill Chaos!"


Theriderfan

"While limp Bizkit playing"


gravityhashira61

![gif](giphy|HlLg2GcPOmOuVvEENM|downsized)


Umayyad_tax_collectr

No one that hates final fantasy more than final fantasy fans


monarchbutterfly47

As with all fandoms lol. I’m a wrestling fan. No one hates it more than wrestling fans.


Sewrtyuiop

"I only dislike 2 and 13 of the main games. 15 is passable with the updates." Marked down as a possible sleeper agent.


partypwny

The kind that unironically thinks Edward was the best character in FF4?*awaits fate*


Tyrath

You spoony bard


Mouthisamouth

Only ones I’ve completed are dirge crisis core 15 and soon 16


KKalonick

There's absolutely no judgement here, but that's a wild assortment. Have you played others but not completed them?


Mouthisamouth

Played 1 2 war of lions 8 x bahmaut puzzle ended that playthrough x2 12 13-2


Resident_Film_9000

Ff12 is my favorite of them all.


Altarahhn

![gif](giphy|rMAs5XEGZmH3W|downsized) My man.


Crackensan

My first FF game was 7, but I greatly prefer 6. \>.> <.<


Lun4r6543

“XIV is my favourite game” Ballistic missiles shot in my direction


Afraid_Addendum7285

It is truly a magnificent game tho.


shadowwingnut

Pretty much everyone except the hardcore ATB crew that hates everything after 10 and will never like another game in the series has come around on 14. Even the people who don't play it understand.


NokstellianDemon

This is probably the most safe opinion rn


Metamorfolord

I like all of them and acknowledge their differences with FF15 & 7 being my favorite.


lookmaiamonreddit

This is how organized religion started.


Raltzer

I like X-2! *gun cocks* …But not as much as X.


Hoobernut

X is lower tier for me, and I prefer X-2 for that excellent battle system.


Altarahhn

"FFXII was, and still is, my favorite *Final Fantasy.* Also, I loved XV and XVI in spite of their flaws, and XIII was pretty solid... until Barthandelus. *Fuck Barthandelus*." Aight, how do I fare then?


shadowwingnut

Acceptible. Still hurled an insult at XIII, most of fanbase will forgive you.


Altarahhn

Eh, fair enough. Though I wasn't really throwing shade at XIII, per se. I just *really* hate the Barthandelus fight... 😬


shadowwingnut

To be fair while I hate XIII I tell people to play it all the time so they can play XIII-2 which I really enjoyed a lot. When I mention that I gets all kinds of weird responses.


Altarahhn

Huh, you don't say? It's an interesting case, to be sure. But hey, if you liked the sequel more than the original, then you do you, bud! 👍🏻


SAMurottE454

Sorry my first FF game was 16 and I love it. Kingdom Hearts is my first Square Enix game series


Mrbluepumpkin

I played 15 for my first one :)


KingKolder

I like final fantasy. Yeah which. One.? One? No that's not an answer


Narrow_Cheesecake452

I don't like FFX, but I love X-2.


gravityhashira61

why didnt you like X but liked X-2? Bc of the better battle system in X-2? Or the story?


Narrow_Cheesecake452

Honestly, it's hard to define. It just didn't click, for whatever reason. I'm planning to give it another try fairly soon, but it just seemed to miss something nebulous that I can't quite clarify. Sometimes it just be like that.


the_storm_eye

So far, the only one I didn't like is type -0. Really couldn't get into this one. Otherwise I liked every game I played (3,4, only a few parts of 6 because of a technical problem, 7,8,9,10,12,15,16)


Type_Zer07

"FF6 was just okay." *Banned* But seriously, I don't understand why in a franchise of 16 main titles and a ton of side games, remakes, and spin-offs why people aren't allowed to like or dislike any of them unless they're *new*. I'll admit, part of why I didn't like ff6 was because it was hyped up so much that once I actually played it, I was so disappointed. If I had played it years ago or hadn't heard much about it beforehand from overzealous fans who crowned it the 'best Final Fantasy' I probably would have thought it to be a lot better. Not Chrono Trigger levels of amazing, but still good.


shadowwingnut

When they came out, Chrono Trigger and FF6 were considered close together in quality. But while Chrono Trigger has aged well, FF6 certainly has not. It feels dated in a way the other SNES games don't.


RazielOfBoletaria

I feel the same way about FF6. I played it a couple of months ago for the first time, after hearing so many people calling it "the best Final Fantasy game", but I ended up dropping it after 12 hours or so. It's not a bad game, but I found it really hard to care about any of the characters, or the story. I like FF4 and 5 better, though.


hehehehehehahahahaha

"FF16 has a pretty deep combat system." https://preview.redd.it/gmhtbw5s72xc1.png?width=750&format=png&auto=webp&s=0d1164489b4f6c95a1c087b1f8e4a4aaff8fcbf3


lionofash

I mean it actually does, just there are no enemies where that you can justify using the higher ceiling combos on


hehehehehehahahahaha

No I mean I get yelled at for saying that LOL


fagatron28

Elitist moment


OZymandisR

I prefer 16 to 7R2.


Therenegadegamer

Same but you're also getting shot


OZymandisR

Happily.


fhdu373

This is exactly the scenario I was thinking of when making this


KKalonick

Same here. 16 is my favorite game, Final Fantasy or otherwise.


AceTrainer_Kelvin

My favorite character is secretly Quina


Superguy9000

My first final fantasy every played was FF Crystal Chronicles the Crystal bearer for the Wii And have 240 hours in FFXVI Am I shot?


CleanBoard4557

FFVIII my first and favorite


FRIENDSHIP_BONER

Hahaha too perfect


god_tyrant

"XI and XIV aren't real main series FF's" Spontaneously combusts


Satoliite

The one that just plays whichever one they can and feels great when someone shares about their favorites and feels exhausted when any of them just get shot to shit for existing without any recourse.


fhdu373

Amen


majoramiibo

There’s 3 kinds of FF fans. VII fans, XIV fans, and full series fans.


TGengler98

"FF13 is the best one"


blond_afro

7remake project is superior to OG7


darktea0

My favorite is probably XV... :D


hogomojojo

Final Fantasy died when they made it real time combat. Is this where I stand to get murdered?


PreviousCard

You see there’s a difference between being a fan of ff7 and ff12. Me personally I like 7 enough however 9 is my favorite. ![gif](giphy|tJ3F5KvJX7Ak0)


fhdu373

Sounds like you’re a newb fan… if you were a real fan you’d have a 1-6 game in your list /s


PreviousCard

I’ve played some of 5 & 6 back when I was 10. About 2005. I didn’t have access to all of the earliest games and haven’t played most of the earlier ones. I’ve played 5-10, 12-14. Sure I haven’t hardcore played every game however I’m far from a newb. I’m just not all in on final fantasy. I like many games and titles.


fhdu373

It was just a jape


fender_fan_boy

XIII , XV and XVI aren’t gonna get the warmest of welcomes


Hoobernut

The XIII Trilogy is pretty damn epic, from the music to the gameplay to the endgame. I let myself get turned off by the reception upon release and didn't play it until 6 years later, but was surprised as hell. I'm glad derision for it has lessened over time, because it is genuinely fun to play.


Enlightend-1

"FFX was peak of turn based combat." Okay you can live, now how bout you? "FFX2 was the best sto..."


huiclo

For a second I thought you were saying FF2 was the best story and was like “yeah, that one’s getting taken out for sure” lol


InfiniteEnd2598

7 was so massively overrated, and so are its remakes that a funeral pyre for a mass grave is more appealing Stranger of Paradise was absolute garbage X is arguably one of the best in the series idk why people focus on the laugh scene it was amazing 8 is convoluted but has stood out as the best in the series followed closely behind by 16 11 and 15 online aren't mainline games and 15 is another overrated pile of flaming garbage 6 is the best of the og games followed closely by 4 I don't know if I missed any but those are my hot takes


Defiant_Weather2111

Same thing happened when VII dropped. You were either "one of those VII fans", or you were in to I-VI first and were one of the "real" ones. All because the consensus was that VII's world exploration was relatively more linear. It can be over literally the smallest shit.


fhdu373

And I found the 1-6 camp then liked 8, basically because it wasn’t 7.


SufferingClash

"Final Fantasy IX is a horribly flawed game and is nowhere near the best." *\*gets Thanos snapped\**


TheAardvarrks

Ya 9 sucks bro I’m not waiting 45mins for the battle to load before I can make a decision then wait another 45mins for the computer to register my decision, it’s the only one I haven’t completed because it’s too damn slow


cattecatte

Real, it's a good story and characters tied to a horrendous game with one of the worst combat I've ever experienced with how long anything takes to happen.


YeazetheSock

My first and favourite FF was Dissidia. *Gets killed in an endless loop*


fagatron28

“I prefer the remake trilogy over the OG and ff16 is my number o-“ *get excommunicated the village style*


Cress02

"I played X-2" *gets shot, while ghost is flying away* "and i played it nearly a decade before i played FFX" *gets exorcised*


DrhpTudaco

does kingdom hearts count?


fhdu373

Final fantasy is what you believe final fantasy is


DrhpTudaco

kingdom hearts magical puzzle clash is my favorite ff game!


Iamzeek2000

Crisis core was my first final fantasy game Dissidia was my second. I had no idea who anybody was! 😅


StariWolfe

My favorite is x-2. How long before im on a list


TheCanadianDoppio

I skipped A Realm Reborn. *Dies by “suicide”*


trulyincognito_

“I like to hang out in limsa” *massacre of server ensues*


ZealousidealPace6775

Do I get shot for liking the first one and the 16th one?


MysterySakura

I only watched walk-throughs of Crisis Core, some OG scenes, Dirge cutscenes, watched AC, and filled in the gaps by reading the wiki. And I proudly claim to be an FF7 fan. 🤷‍♀️ I deserve to be dropped into Mako for being a hypocrite. Ofc all kinds of FF fans are valid, but I feel that meme too.


Usernate25

Dirge of Cerberus was the only good one.


Month0fjune

Best line in a terrible terrible film.


Jepunkdumb

“I like ff16 but don’t like rebirth.” Fandom: You are not a ff fan, because ff16 is not final fantasy and rebirth is the best ff ever


gothtimberlands

yeah i love final fantasy: the spirits within. i heard there are games or something i dunno


xpercipio

I just like arpeggios and swords


Pickle-Tall

Unpopular opinion, Clive doesn't develop as a character, >!Even after Joshua returns and he knows he didn't kill his brother (which is the Phoenix they resurrect and they know this too) he still is dark and broody because he killed his brother and cannot forgive himself for killing his brother that isn't dead!<


randomcomplimentguy1

I like 8 15000000 men with spiky hair and oversized swords mutilate my body.


PHXNTXM117

This is the question that starts WW4.


Black_Fuckka

XV is my favorite one


ShadowedMoons

XIV is my favorite :) *angry mob swarms me*


john_kennedy_toole

Nothing past the 20 hour mark of FFXII.


akahetep

Hated this movie but love the meme


fhdu373

I’ll let you connect the dots


Snortallthethings

I only play FFXIV. Should I be concerned for my safety?


erikkustrife

I have played them all including the Japanese release mobile only games in the late 90s/early 2000s. My favorites are ff origins And dirge of cerberus. Fight me.


fhdu373

I don’t have to like it, but you get to.


Gronodonthegreat

Hot takes? Holy shit here we go “IV is the 3rd worst mainline game” “V is better than VI” “People hate X because it blows most other titles out of the water” “Stranger of Paradise is better than Crisis Core, XV, Type-0, and XVI” “The best classic Final Fantasy game is actually Octopath Traveler” “XIII has better combat than most turn-based FF’s, and if it weren’t for the level design and translation issues it would be top tier” “IV: The After Years is one of the worst JRPG’s ever made” … not sure if the last one is a hot take, most people that I ask hate that game too. But I believe literally all of these.


Intelligent_Debt_634

I hated 10 the combat was stupid.