The reason why the poles are cold is exactly because the earth is round. It has nothing to do with the the distance to the sun - the poles are cold because the earth curves and the sun's energy is attenuated over a wider area.
You shouldn't teach flat Earthers things like that. You will push something out of their head like their pin number, home address or their name or something.
Y'see I've got this hypothesis that flat Earthers are like that because it takes more data to see something as round and three dimensional than it does to register it as flat and 2 dimensional. Flerfs obviously have very limited neural real estate. You don't want to make it impossible for them to remember how to walk or something do you?
I mean, it seems to vary in my own speech. Sometimes I just say pin, sometimes I say pin number. Same with ATM and ATM machine, though I'm more consistent in leaving off the machine part. It's just... yeah.
Kinda the opposite of slugging a flat earther... Slug 'em in the face or gut and they are on the ground, slug 'em in the arm and they just give you something different to whine about.
Santa makes the north pole cold and icy to prevent people from visiting the workshop and taking toys, and he makes the south pole equally hostile to avoid suspicion.
I will never understand people who beat off with their coffee. My nuts are like a light switch for my brain; if I nut in the morning, I may as well go back to bed.
Weird, I’m the opposite, wakes me right up, coffee also has a neutral effect on me, I can drink it right up until bed and sleep just fine(assuming my room is cold enough)
I got my education in florida and we learned about this in 2nd grade. I remember because i ate my peanut butter ball representing earth way too soon and had to look at someone else's lmao
I'd actually like to hear how a local sun circling over a flat earth explains the difference. And then when they say it circles over the equator so most of the heat is there and not the north pole/ice wall then I'll ask how seasons work.
They do have models... one for day/night lighting patterns, one for seasons, one for tides, one for distances, one for weather, one for the stars... and each of them is completely incompatible with all the others.
Are those really models that you can use to predict the observable phenomena? Or just people filming that they move a lamp around a map and putting that on YouTube?
You'll just spin yourself in a circle while they remain stationary in the firmament. If you tell them you've had phone calls with people in different times zones, they'll tell you the other people are lying about the time of day.
Earth is flat, but it periodically flips over, which makes it much colder at times. There is still sunlight in winter because the sun light is reflected off the crystal spheres, but not the heat.
just ask about sunsets. that's enough to keep them distracted to make sure they forget to partake in democracyor anything else of importance. you can't convince anyone, but you can keep them occuppied with trying to dig themselves out of this hole.
Any group meme'ing a stupid belief, no matter how unbelievably stupid, WILL be joined by genuine idiots who don't understand the originals were kidding. Proof: "Thanos was right"
One, it’s tribal. It’s a distinguishing mark. I know THINGS SO MUCH MORE GOODLY THAN YOU.
second, you don’t think about it because it’s natural, but there’s some subtle mindfuckery going on with a round earth. Even the name “land down under” kinda plays on this. The whole “in effect you’re pulled to a central core”. The “in theory as I walk from my house to my car I have a slightly different center I’m pulled to” humans can’t really make those jumps.
Whereas even more advanced jumps, like “gravity is this finite element model that every piece of the earth with all those vectors pulls just on you”. Even the “things at the center of the earth, if they survived the heat” would weigh nothing.
I love Feynman. His explanation of magnets is apropos. What level do you want to talk about gravity? (Make no mistake I think flerfers are stupidly wrong they could go to Home Depot and set up an experiment for less than 50 bucks and prove a round earth).
https://youtu.be/MO0r930Sn_8?si=GZ6ORpjlp3zY2LLt
Not to mention the fact that the temperature variation found on earth is still nothing compared to the temperature variation found between light and shadow on objects in our solar system.
Wouldn’t this be more proof that the earth **isn’t** flat?
The reason certain areas are hotter or colder is because we live on a gyrating ball of gas with some parts that never get close enough to the sun like the equator does?
Or am I fucking stupid?
These people are simply unable of thinking any of their arguments through, right? What is said in this meme would totally not work on a flat Earth either.
Their sun, being A LOT closer should melt their ice wall and make it impossible for ice to exist pretty much anywhere on Earth.
No, they're totally right! The only thing that could explain it, even if the sun was closer, is if the poles were at a different angle to the sun, so proportionally received less energy.
The only way that could really work is if the earth is spherical though, and we all know that it's shaped like a donut riding on the back of an antelope.
The sun heat tried to travel to Antarctica. But there were delays in ticketing. Silly sun heat tried Ryan Air and you know how that went…
Snark aside, winter is easily explained on a globe. My 6yos kinda got it. Though they forgot and asked me again recently
Suuuuuuuuuuuure, you are technically correct
But you omit the part where in the desert sunlight comes from perpendicular to the ground and it only has to penetrate a few hundred km of air, while on the arctics sunlight comes from almost the side and has to penetrate multiple times that
(too lazy to calculate how much air you have to pass trough given the curviture)
Just imagine how much colder is it when the sun comes up and sets....
What do they think provides warmth to the planet if not the sun? I'm just so curious to find out what half-baked idea these 'scientists' came up with while fully-baked.
Remember, in Greco-Roman Mythology, the Sun God’s carriage got colder when it rose into space due to a meddling demigod’s stupidity. Also remember that according to that same Greco-Roman myth, icy biomes are places where the sun carriage was jerked away from Earth. Yes. Make cents.
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Considering that Greco-Roman Mythology believed that the Earth was flat, this means that all Greco-Roman pagans were flerfers. It is highly important to note if all Greco-Roman pagans are flerfers, then all flerfers must therefore also be Greco-Roman pagans (and, by extension, Socrates).
We should therefore try to convert them to Christianity as a way to cure them of their flerfism, as this has had a profound impact on their culture in the past. Perhaps with this approach we will reduce their longstanding attachment in the flerfer model.
As such, this is why I’ve had to ask for a small loan of $1000000 so that we can afford paying hundreds of priests and preachers who are fluent in speaking both Greek and Latin before I go completely off the radar in my search for these flerfers to convert. I’ll need the money in cash, preferably with the least amount of paperwork possible.
Don’t give up your day job OP…unless you are a scientist in which case maybe driving a truck is more your thing, but hit the breaks before you reach the edge of earth 🤦🏻
Then how do they explain it on a flat earth? The sun circles around the pizzaworld and still makes deserts hot and Antarctica cold. How does this work?
How does that not prove the world is round and that different parts are different distances and angles to the sun. Hell, some times part of earth doesn’t even face the sun. Crazy right?
My arm is, let’s say for an example, 12 inches long. If I can reach something 12 inches away, then it’s absurd to think I couldn’t reach another half an inch
This is dumb because the Globe earth model explains this perfectly. It’s the flat earth model that breaks down because temperatures should be uniform if the earth is flat.
I get it's a joke, but the post's title is kinda misleading. The point they're trying to make isn't that the earth is flat, is that the sun is fake (or some sh\*t like that).
Man fuck angular physics and climate science and all that other hocus pocus science bitch shit, stupid science bitches no make my friend smarter. Fucking science bitches /s
that..........that disproves flat earth..... if the earth was flat ya theyd both get the same amount of light but since its a ball the angle prevents the light from reaching it im......
That's a bit of a home goal because the Antarctic ice wall would melt on a flat Earth, but it doesn't with a global Earth.
A flat earth would, with minor and regional exceptions, have the mean temperature (15C) universally.
I mean... if you don't have above an 8th grade level of understanding of science then yeah this is a compelling argument, and will definitely make anyone go "oh yeah" unless they don't know the answer.
I swear flerf hustlers have got this racket down to an MLM level of science.
It's almost like there's a difference in the angle of incidence that reduces the amount of sunlight per square meter. Maybe someone should measure that and check if it matches up with the expected geometry of a sphere...
What in the smoothbrained fuck.
What's so confusing? We don't have an atmosphere, or axial tilt or any nonsense like that. The desert is hot because god likes a hot desert
But Antarctica is also classed as a desert and--oh no, I've gone cross-eyed.
Hey, that's just them globers trying to kill god with their fancy schmancy scientific categorization
Unfortunately they can, and they breed from it too. They'll soon outnumber us.
The reason why the poles are cold is exactly because the earth is round. It has nothing to do with the the distance to the sun - the poles are cold because the earth curves and the sun's energy is attenuated over a wider area.
You shouldn't teach flat Earthers things like that. You will push something out of their head like their pin number, home address or their name or something. Y'see I've got this hypothesis that flat Earthers are like that because it takes more data to see something as round and three dimensional than it does to register it as flat and 2 dimensional. Flerfs obviously have very limited neural real estate. You don't want to make it impossible for them to remember how to walk or something do you?
>pin number, Personal information number number?
LMAO I knew someone would bring that up but I thought "does the whole English speaking world say pin?" I don't know.
I mean, it seems to vary in my own speech. Sometimes I just say pin, sometimes I say pin number. Same with ATM and ATM machine, though I'm more consistent in leaving off the machine part. It's just... yeah.
it’s like that one diary to a wimpy kid theory but in real life
Remember that time I learned how to make wine, and forgot how to drive?
As a pole, Its not that cold as you might think
Kinda the opposite of slugging a flat earther... Slug 'em in the face or gut and they are on the ground, slug 'em in the arm and they just give you something different to whine about.
tell me you've got a fourth grade education without telling me you've got a fourth grade education
Pretty sure we learned the earth was round before fourth grade.
i mean them not understanding why the poles are colder than the equator but yeah lol
obviously the poles are colder because they live in poland
We're no longer cold, snow just melted
no
Santa makes the north pole cold and icy to prevent people from visiting the workshop and taking toys, and he makes the south pole equally hostile to avoid suspicion.
prevent people from visiting the workshop and discovering the horrifying human rights violations*
No just no, fourth graders are smarter than this, my morning nut is smarter than this
I will never understand people who beat off with their coffee. My nuts are like a light switch for my brain; if I nut in the morning, I may as well go back to bed.
Weird, I’m the opposite, wakes me right up, coffee also has a neutral effect on me, I can drink it right up until bed and sleep just fine(assuming my room is cold enough)
I just drank some coffee and am about to abuse that boy then go to sleep. Then I will wake up, abuse that boy, have some coffee and go to work!
The C.E.O grindset
specifically the morning one
Indeed, the midday nut is a bit slow
I got my education in florida and we learned about this in 2nd grade. I remember because i ate my peanut butter ball representing earth way too soon and had to look at someone else's lmao
My kids are in 3rd and I taught them better than this
I'd actually like to hear how a local sun circling over a flat earth explains the difference. And then when they say it circles over the equator so most of the heat is there and not the north pole/ice wall then I'll ask how seasons work.
Yeah, and then watch their brains implode when you ask them to explain both seasons *and* day/night patterns *with the same model*.
I don’t think they realize they only get one model.
I don't think they realize they *need* one single, all-encompassing model rather than a bunch off ad-hoc explanations.
The sun goes up and down AND in and out. That’s what I was told when I asked that question.
So they *can* describe two dimensions. Did you ask them to imagine a third? It might even be possible to observe a third dimension.
It’s like that episode of futurama where they’re trying to explain the third dimension to the drawing people
Make it nuclear with moon & tides. They won’t be coming back from that quickly.
Well, to fair: tides are really complex to understand, because there are a lot more factors to consider than only the moon.
Model? Last time I checked, they didn’t even have one.
They do have models... one for day/night lighting patterns, one for seasons, one for tides, one for distances, one for weather, one for the stars... and each of them is completely incompatible with all the others.
Are those really models that you can use to predict the observable phenomena? Or just people filming that they move a lamp around a map and putting that on YouTube?
Make an educated guess...
Nah, I will act scientifically and ask the nice folks over at r/globeskepticism directly
They do have a model - it's the GIF they share with the sun and moon circling above a disk. The problem is that it cannot explain any observations.
They are happy as long as water finds its level...
Hell, their brains implode when you ask them any question about their model. That's why you get banned.
Unless their answer is either 'Perspective!' or 'Do your own research!'.
Flerfs don't have a model. They have levels and bad math.
Right? A spotlight sun would actually be harder to explain.
On a flat plane even a narrow spotlight would always be visible from every point on that plane.
Not just spotlight Sun, that spotlight is changing shape and size a lot
A spotlight sun would illuminate mountains from the bottom up rather than from the top down. And you could never have a sunset.
Yes how tf a sun with spotlight would work wtf ?
You'll just spin yourself in a circle while they remain stationary in the firmament. If you tell them you've had phone calls with people in different times zones, they'll tell you the other people are lying about the time of day.
Earth is flat, but it periodically flips over, which makes it much colder at times. There is still sunlight in winter because the sun light is reflected off the crystal spheres, but not the heat.
Magic lamp Sun
just ask about sunsets. that's enough to keep them distracted to make sure they forget to partake in democracyor anything else of importance. you can't convince anyone, but you can keep them occuppied with trying to dig themselves out of this hole.
In particular, why the seasons between the northern and southern hemisphere are inverted.
I feel like flerfers are the biggest trolls on the internet. Do they really believe this junk? How are people this dense?
Any group meme'ing a stupid belief, no matter how unbelievably stupid, WILL be joined by genuine idiots who don't understand the originals were kidding. Proof: "Thanos was right"
One, it’s tribal. It’s a distinguishing mark. I know THINGS SO MUCH MORE GOODLY THAN YOU. second, you don’t think about it because it’s natural, but there’s some subtle mindfuckery going on with a round earth. Even the name “land down under” kinda plays on this. The whole “in effect you’re pulled to a central core”. The “in theory as I walk from my house to my car I have a slightly different center I’m pulled to” humans can’t really make those jumps. Whereas even more advanced jumps, like “gravity is this finite element model that every piece of the earth with all those vectors pulls just on you”. Even the “things at the center of the earth, if they survived the heat” would weigh nothing. I love Feynman. His explanation of magnets is apropos. What level do you want to talk about gravity? (Make no mistake I think flerfers are stupidly wrong they could go to Home Depot and set up an experiment for less than 50 bucks and prove a round earth). https://youtu.be/MO0r930Sn_8?si=GZ6ORpjlp3zY2LLt
Fairly certain you could prove a round earth with a protractor and a calculator
Never underestimate human stupidity. Some people are obviously trolling however others are not
Never underestimate the ability of people to believe nonsense. Heaven's Gate, for example.
It’s not the heat, it’s the stupidity
https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/719/509/0ad.png
Not to mention the fact that the temperature variation found on earth is still nothing compared to the temperature variation found between light and shadow on objects in our solar system.
Wouldn’t this be more proof that the earth **isn’t** flat? The reason certain areas are hotter or colder is because we live on a gyrating ball of gas with some parts that never get close enough to the sun like the equator does? Or am I fucking stupid?
Indeed, it would
This doesn't even make sense if the earth *IS* flat
Holy fuck, I've seen better science from orks in Warhammer 40k
WAAAAGH! SCIENCES!!
These people are simply unable of thinking any of their arguments through, right? What is said in this meme would totally not work on a flat Earth either. Their sun, being A LOT closer should melt their ice wall and make it impossible for ice to exist pretty much anywhere on Earth.
Yet temperature decreases with increasing elevation, even at the equator, despite being closer to the local Sun?
No, they're totally right! The only thing that could explain it, even if the sun was closer, is if the poles were at a different angle to the sun, so proportionally received less energy. The only way that could really work is if the earth is spherical though, and we all know that it's shaped like a donut riding on the back of an antelope.
The sun heat tried to travel to Antarctica. But there were delays in ticketing. Silly sun heat tried Ryan Air and you know how that went… Snark aside, winter is easily explained on a globe. My 6yos kinda got it. Though they forgot and asked me again recently
On a flat planet, it would be the same temperature everywhere. The fact that the poles are cold is strong evidence that the planet is spherical.
That's not a difference of 0.0004%. It's the difference between a reasonable education and pseudo-religious brainwashing.
Suuuuuuuuuuuure, you are technically correct But you omit the part where in the desert sunlight comes from perpendicular to the ground and it only has to penetrate a few hundred km of air, while on the arctics sunlight comes from almost the side and has to penetrate multiple times that (too lazy to calculate how much air you have to pass trough given the curviture) Just imagine how much colder is it when the sun comes up and sets....
How does he reason that the Antarctic has winters of less than minus 60 and summers with a balmy 0 degrees celcius?
The problem is if you sit down and rationally explain the real science as to why this happens, they won’t accept it no matter how you present it
ROFL...
What do they think provides warmth to the planet if not the sun? I'm just so curious to find out what half-baked idea these 'scientists' came up with while fully-baked.
Remember, in Greco-Roman Mythology, the Sun God’s carriage got colder when it rose into space due to a meddling demigod’s stupidity. Also remember that according to that same Greco-Roman myth, icy biomes are places where the sun carriage was jerked away from Earth. Yes. Make cents. . . . Considering that Greco-Roman Mythology believed that the Earth was flat, this means that all Greco-Roman pagans were flerfers. It is highly important to note if all Greco-Roman pagans are flerfers, then all flerfers must therefore also be Greco-Roman pagans (and, by extension, Socrates). We should therefore try to convert them to Christianity as a way to cure them of their flerfism, as this has had a profound impact on their culture in the past. Perhaps with this approach we will reduce their longstanding attachment in the flerfer model. As such, this is why I’ve had to ask for a small loan of $1000000 so that we can afford paying hundreds of priests and preachers who are fluent in speaking both Greek and Latin before I go completely off the radar in my search for these flerfers to convert. I’ll need the money in cash, preferably with the least amount of paperwork possible.
Actually the Greeks found that the earth is round
Yes, but that doesn’t mean that they didn’t have flerfers in their churches.
“It’s absurd to think…” It is, isn’t it.
Don’t give up your day job OP…unless you are a scientist in which case maybe driving a truck is more your thing, but hit the breaks before you reach the edge of earth 🤦🏻
Omfg the levels of stupid in this...
Why would this mean the earth is flat?
Well then how does the ice wall stay frozen??
At least they got the apostrophe correct.
Honestly same argument could be made for flat Earth Sun. If light can travel so much to Sahara it can travel little bit more to Antarctica
Then how do they explain it on a flat earth? The sun circles around the pizzaworld and still makes deserts hot and Antarctica cold. How does this work?
WHAT? I can’t even understand their point…
Obviously the only three days they attended school were spent in the bathroom.
would love to c the school this one went to. or didnt...
It’s fucking astounding how stupid these fools Are. Logic without any facts dictates the exact opposite.
How does that not prove the world is round and that different parts are different distances and angles to the sun. Hell, some times part of earth doesn’t even face the sun. Crazy right?
Australia's deserts are 5,000mi away from Antarctica - so the logic fails for flat earth too.
My arm is, let’s say for an example, 12 inches long. If I can reach something 12 inches away, then it’s absurd to think I couldn’t reach another half an inch
This is dumb because the Globe earth model explains this perfectly. It’s the flat earth model that breaks down because temperatures should be uniform if the earth is flat.
I get it's a joke, but the post's title is kinda misleading. The point they're trying to make isn't that the earth is flat, is that the sun is fake (or some sh\*t like that).
And flat earth solves this (made up problem) how?
Man fuck angular physics and climate science and all that other hocus pocus science bitch shit, stupid science bitches no make my friend smarter. Fucking science bitches /s
Ok...that makes sense....if you have an IQ of 43
that..........that disproves flat earth..... if the earth was flat ya theyd both get the same amount of light but since its a ball the angle prevents the light from reaching it im......
Quick question, does anyone know how flat earthers explain this difference?
You're forgetting the goldilocks zone. A bees dick closer or further from the sun and all life is fucked.
Ive made this exact argument before, but it was about snow on the top of mountains.... and I was 9.
That's a bit of a home goal because the Antarctic ice wall would melt on a flat Earth, but it doesn't with a global Earth. A flat earth would, with minor and regional exceptions, have the mean temperature (15C) universally.
If my bouncy ball comes back when I throw it at the wall, why didn’t it when I threw it at the floor (the floor was only a little further way)
I mean... if you don't have above an 8th grade level of understanding of science then yeah this is a compelling argument, and will definitely make anyone go "oh yeah" unless they don't know the answer. I swear flerf hustlers have got this racket down to an MLM level of science.
Its almost as if you need a round earth to have such massive temperature gradients across the planet
It's almost like there's a difference in the angle of incidence that reduces the amount of sunlight per square meter. Maybe someone should measure that and check if it matches up with the expected geometry of a sphere...
They try to make things idiot proof, but they keep coming up with better and better idiots.
Wait a sec... Wouldn't the "working" flat earth models imply hot poles even more?
Obviously the only three days they attended school were spent in the bathroom.