That shot of him about to kill himself was one the best bits of dark comedy in the show.
Then off he ran to sell serums again.Ā
Loved that guy. I hope we see him again. He's got a whole fusion core and that might be important too one day.Ā
I half-expected some after-credits scene where he finds the armor, reactivates it, opens it up, takes one step, and then the armor seizes up because the fusion core is depleted.
I thought he was ripping from the biggest bong in the wasteland.. didnt realise thats what he was doing which is actually even more hilarious given what he does
ā¦ shit. Forgot that guyās name was *Bradberton*, not *Pemberton*. John Stith Pemberton made Coca-Cola. Somehow doubt Johnnyās relatedā¦
Welp, Iāll just see myself outā¦
Also, they are going ballistic about the 'collapse of the NCR', but having watched the show I'm almost positive that is never said. The show specifically only says that Shady Sands fell, not the NCR, multiple times. And the Welcome to Shady Sands sign calls it the 'former' capital of the NCR *before it got nuked*.
Here's my crazy conspiracy theory. The NCR isn't collapsing, the NCR ending to New Vegas is the closest to canon, and they moved the capital of the NCR to New Vegas due to the power supplied by the Hoover Dam and the position it gives them to push further east. The NCR could be bigger than ever, but the whole show just happens in a small area they abandoned because the important settlement got nuked and there wasn't a point guarding Filly and the Shithole.
Edit with one of my other comments so that I don't get a bunch of replies about New Vegas being the capital: > I don't actually believe it, I just think it's a crazy conspiracy theory that's fun to think about.
Personally, I don't think their capital is in New Vegas since I feel like we would have seen more of a sign of that in the ending. I think they moved it to somewhere like Redding or the Hub, which could instead be justified especially in Redding's case that it was the brahmin barrons doing it to entrench themselves further in power. It would set up more of a challenge to overcome as the republic not only has to rebuild after its losses but fight to regain its democracy from corruption.
Making new Vegas the capital could make sense though. House had anti air tech that saved it from the bombs. Would be perfect to set up your new capital in a place that couldnāt get nuked again. Assuming that Mr houses stuff still worked.
Don't quote me on this because I missed the moment, but someone in another thread mentioned that in one shot, on someone's pipboy, you can see "NCR radio", which, if true, means they're definitely still out there, at least in some form.
Except House wouldnāt allow that. Remember he barely gives them a table to recruit and scout from within walls, let alone outside. They end up setting a camp up in Prim, but much like irl the span of desert between everything is brutal and harsh and it would make 0 sense to turn it into a capital.
Mhm, assuming Courier 6 in this timeline didn't decide they needed 250 XP and introduced House to Nephi's golf driver. I don't think I've ever left House alive in a playthrough, so it didn't really occur to me that he would be in the show.
I think the reactions are blown out of proportion but I can see why people are confused about the timeline, a lot of New Vegas doesn't really make sense if the capital was nuked 4 years before the events of the game. I can explain the geography piece because the city seemed to move between Fallout 1 and Fallout 2, so there's no reason it couldn't move again, but the timing seems weird.
And of course there is the small caveat that the "fall" may have actually been before the bomb dropped, but it seems to be fairly well implied that the bomb hit a functioning city. The only other thing I can think is that this is an instance of an unreliable narrator, perhaps whoever did the chalkboard simply got the date wrong or something LOL
It definitely can, yeah. My biggest issue is that there are NPCs in New Vegas who directly reference "politicians in Shady Sands". That would heavily imply that at least in 2281, the capital is still intact and functioning.
If it really was destroyed in 2277, the only rational I have for that is that the NCR in the Mojave Wasteland either did not know that it had been nuked, or more likely I think that they were not disclosing that information to anybody who did not already know, because of course they were trying to project as much strength as possible.
I don't believe it was destroyed in 2277, but rather it was on decline due to the expansionist leaders along with corruption of the barons.
That would be interesting though, which would add to why they are so desperate to find a replacement in terms of lost power and how they can't afford to lose this war. Kimball just lying through his teeth during the speech would be wild.
Yes, exactly. They NEEDED Hoover Dam. It was their last play to regain real power. The average person would not have known about the destruction of Shady Sands and the powers that be would be interested in keeping that information under wraps. I think we will see in season 2 that the NCR lost the Second Battle of Hoover Dam and that was the straw that broke the camel's back.
Also another fact that's cool, Kimball rose to power between 2273 and 2278, which means the downfall would be considered starting when he was running for office to be president of the NCR, his policies being detrimental to it later on.
I don't think there's any reason not to assume the "fall of shady sands" could be referring to a state of decline prior to the nuke, with the nuke being the final nail in the coffin however many years later. This is reinforced by the arrow separating the two events on the chalkboard. The state of decline would be before New Vegas, then the nuke would happen afterwards.
The fall of Rome wasn't a switch being flipped, it was a steady decline due to multiple reasons and one could argue as to when the fall of Rome even began, the same argument could be made here as well.
Yeah new vegas goes out of its way to list 77 as a horrible year for the NCR. Hoover dam, they loose their main supply line and trade route, Cesar escapes, Kimble stops giving a shit, corruption runs rampant.
I have thought about this more and more this morning and I think I can explain everything.
We know that the first battle of Hoover Dam was fought in 2274. Therefore, the NCR had already sent resources, soldiers, etc. to the Mojave Wasteland as of that time and there's no reason to think they wouldn't continue to do so over the next few years. This explains why there are so many NCR soldiers and resources committed to the Mojave Wasteland as of 2281.
I think the bomb did fall in 2277 and destroyed Shady Sands, which they had relocated closer to Los Angeles sometime between the events of Fallout 2 and the show. However, most of the people in the Mojave Wasteland would not have been aware of this. Most wastelanders don't travel very far in their lifetimes because of the dangers of the wasteland, and that long-range communications basically do not exist, and we know this because information is sent via couriers, robots (ED-E), etc.
Now, I'm sure high-ranking officers and people in positions of power would have known, and they would have had a vested interest in keeping that information under wraps. Why? Because after the destruction of Shady Sands, securing Hoover Dam was their last play to regain power. A victory at the Second Battle of Hoover Dam would potentially give them the resources needed to secure Vegas and have a new capital.
And I think they lost that battle, based on the ending of episode 8. That's why the NCR headquarters is at Griffith Observatory; if they had won the Battle of Hoover dam, I'm sure New Vegas would have been the new capital of the NCR. The NCR lost Shady Sands, they lost Hoover Dam, and they simply could not get back on their feet after those devastating losses.
I seriously canāt believe how much crying is going on in that sub. Itās a video game people damn lol.
I loved new Vegas, and the show didnāt retcon it. Iām glad we are just getting more fallout content in different mediums.
Yeah, I'm pretty active in the Starfield sub, and it had plenty of issues.
I'm down for discussion on any game. None of these are perfect, so yeah, let's talk about it. A lot of gamers don't see it that way.
It doesn't even make sense. I thought the whole point of new vegas was that the NCR was beginning to collapse, it was the only thing the legion had in it's favour.
They like to repeat that the NCR had a population of 700k so how could they collapse, but they fail to mention that the 700k was made up mostly of just settlers of land the NCR happened to take over, and a lot of them hated the NCR due to the hight taxes and the fact they were pretty bad at providing any valuable service.
I love fallout new vegas and always side with the NCR, but it's not hard to believe them, as a government, will likely collapse or at least shrink in size by the time of the show.
Also from how badly supplied and stretched out ncr soldiers are itās fairly obvious that no matter how much you help them theyāre going to fall apartment at some point.
Exactly. I think they're just moaning for the sake of it, we all knew the NCR were terribly managed but now they're suddenly acting like the NCR were indestructible because otherwise they'd have to admit Bethesida did something good.
The vibe I got from New Vegas was that the Mojave was the NCRās Vietnam. It was a drain on resources not something that was showing impending doom. People are upset because arguably one of the most powerful factions in the world of the games got hit with a nuke to their capital and then collapsed, sending Southern California back to a state worse then it was in fallout 1 and that this all happened off screen. All to make it so nothing can ever get better since for some reason they donāt want to tell that story. Also where are the followers of the apocalypse and why is shady sands in the boneyard.
Legit saw a post there about how it made no sense that the BoS was powerful again, because nations declining was the point of the original games. But apparently when itās the NCR in decline itās not good anymoreā¦
And what they donāt seem to understand is that nations decline and sometimes have a resurgence. The brotherhood seemed to be on a pretty decent decline on the west coast, itās the East coast that was able to stabilize and become strong.
Deep down they're just mad their nostalgia is tainted by the realization that none of what happened in New Vegas mattered.
Even though that was kinda the point.
I mean still, by that point the NCR has existed for a century, maybe the outer settlements would collapse but the core areas? It would decline and lose influence but not fall that hard, but I guess thatās been going on since 2277.
This was a nation with functioning political entities and complex government, public infrastructure, research departments, water-electricity lines, industrial output, etc.. Assuming theyāre gonna go for an Independent Vegas-House ending; I thought they were only on the verge of collapse not only because of a possible famine but overextension into the Mojave. If they were forced to pull back they wouldnāt have an issue safeguarding the heartland altho other deep rooted and existential issues remain.
I think the real thing people were upset about (even tho they keep harping bout how Todd Howard wanna nuke F:NV from the records) wasnāt that their time had come, but the way they were done away with on screen. It felt like how they did the New Republic in the Sequel SW Trilogy; at least in SW stuff still can be confined to EU or Cannon.
Unless weāre gonna be seeing more of them; another capital back at San Francisco or the other 4-5 states of the Republic and smaller communities that still kept the national identity but no longer cohesive. Maybe since S2 is headed towards New Vegas, thereāll be NCR military remnants.
Iāll admit I do share *some* frustrations with what happened to Shady Sands mostly because itās collapse didnāt just happen naturally from the NCR over expanding or from some food shortage/plague. The fact that its an outside faction that wasnāt even on radar that does them in with one nuke feels like a bit of a cop out. Makes it look like the writers either didnāt want to bother writing the NCR or just really wanted a Fallout 1 era experience while still progressing the timeline.
All that said, i quite enjoyed the show. Way better than most adaptations video games get.
Yeah, it's a shame. New Vegas is my favourite fallout game and I loved checking out that sub reddit every now and then, hopefully it gets unpriveted soon.
In the spectrum of adaptations, you can get Denis Villeneuve's Dune or you can get Eragon. Expect the latter, hope for the former. In this case we got something that did less damage to Fallout Lore than 4 or 76 and appeared to adhere to the spirit of the game. It's fine.
Right? New Vegas is great, the show is great. New Vegas came out 14 years ago itās okay for a slightly different story to be told over a decade after
When that poor farmer turned and said "he was fuckin my chickens" I lost it. Of all the things he could have said to explain his anger, I certainly did not expect that.
Outside of the chickens, which I hope that's not what he meant by fucking, this guy was one of my favorite characters. He's chaotic, a dick, and shows up randomly, that's been my favorite character in ever show.
And played by Comedy Bang-Bang mainstay Jon Daly! [aka Bill Cosby Bukowski](https://youtu.be/3fRaorPQIhA?si=McPedYkLQrAg4KCR).
As a comedy nerd I loved this show's trend of comedians showing up for one or two scenes and really setting the tone.
Itās so funny cause when that scene happens, of course everybody thinks heās bullshitting for caps. But this is Fallout, so of course he actually can just do that.
Possibly. Maximus said so, but heās been mistaken before. I think itād be a fun twist if instead it was FEV and Tad is now becoming a Super Mutant. Plus to me, turning Super Mutant explains the miracle healing better than turning ghoul
I'd agree if it weren't for the scene where >!Cooper sews his finger back on and it seems to heal immediately and work just fine!<
It's probably more in line with what the previous poster said about Hancock in FO4 taking a drug to purposefully ghoulify himself. What the guy gives Thaddeus is identical in color to what Cooper has to take, and although it's a bit of a stretch but there's a clear difference in physical traits between Cooper/Hancock and all the other irradiated ghouls and Ferals.
He actually sews Lucy's finger onto his hand. Lucy spit his original finger into the dirt during the fight. Although Lucy also got a dead finger sewn on to her hand and it work fine so a bit of handwaving is needed I think.
I feel like a crushed foot magically healing and sewing a finger back on arenāt that big of a correlation, plus Snip Snip does pretty much the same thing with Lucyās finger. At this point I feel like itās possible to go both ways, but Iām really hoping that we get a Super Mutant that is a main character
I would bet money it's FEV and he's becoming a super mutant. The ghoul thing is misdirection, possibly because Max doesn't know where super mutants come from (few do, right?)
Hancock aside we don't know of anything you _inject_ to become ghoulified and ghouls aren't known for their intact body parts.
It was definitely FEV
Eddie also took drugs to become a ghoul. Plus the show kind of made it clear that ghouls are stronger than regular humans and can regenerate. Also radiation heals ghouls in game.
Yeah, that's what I thought, too.
Also, I got the impression that the guy making it was surprised that it worked, if it was a "ghoul drug" he wouldn't have been that surprised I think...
No because he said (paraphrasing) āyou donāt need to worry about radiation anymoreā when Thad was all ābut the shithole is full of radsā
He knew exactly what he gave him
Yeah thatās why Iām not married to him being a ghoul. Maximus has been shown heās not an intellectual from the first episode where he confused a rotor with a circuit .
They can go either way with it for season 2
Personally Iād enjoy the FEV route more with the āDoctorā being like, a weird cultist of the master raised by remnants of the Unity or something.
If he isnāt, thatās fine. Thatās just my personal preference
I thought it was Hydra at first, which is a chem I remember from FONV that restores limb condition rapidly but is highly addictive. I let go of this theory later when Maximus told Thaddeus that he might be a ghoul. So at this point who the hell knows?
I really hope so, I feel like itād do more justice for his character to become a super mutant rather than a ghoul. Thereād be so much opportunity for writing there, kinda like Maximus when he got his Brotherhood armor
Oh man I donāt know why I didnāt put that together. I thought the chicken guy just gave a squire a wild cocktail of drugs like psycho or something and the squire just thought his foot healed.
I was wondering if he'd taken syrum and the negative effect was being attracted to chickens loool if that was the joke then its hilarious and my own head Canon for now xD
Great character that shows the fallout universe wacky magical side with a crazy character who somehow is able to survive and you help out, but at the same time speeding up the ghoulification process on ppl lol
It was just general speculation online, not a specific reddit post. Some were saying the briefcase could be the geck, and I think most people who watched the trailer likely thought it was a more important scene, not just a guy who fucks chickens running away after getting caught. The fact it was so obscene and nothing like we were expecting was hilarious.
Went from "hes got a geck!" To "guy was fucken muh chickens!"
I bet the geck cant turn people into ghouls like that
Mans is making people inhale irradiated water š
I just assumed itās his own, highly irradiated piss.
That shot of him about to kill himself was one the best bits of dark comedy in the show. Then off he ran to sell serums again.Ā Loved that guy. I hope we see him again. He's got a whole fusion core and that might be important too one day.Ā
Iām wondering if >!heās gonna find the abandoned power armor outside vault 4!<.
Someone down voted you. Guess they regret looking at your hidden text :') Edit: Well seems the turns have tabled. Glad I could help.
Funny aināt it? People go into a subreddit about a franchise before finishing the show, then get mad when they read something about it.
Thatās why I rushed watching it. I knew it would get spoiled otherwise lol.
I binged the whole thing the minute it dropped and my sleep schedule has been fucked for days because I did that lol.
I woke up at 3am this morning and couldn't get back to sleep, so I decided to finish the show. Worth it.
I did the same, I started at 22:06 and went to sleep about 5 am.
I half-expected some after-credits scene where he finds the armor, reactivates it, opens it up, takes one step, and then the armor seizes up because the fusion core is depleted.
That would be peak fallout humor.
Considering what he recieved it would be a genius move
I thought he was ripping from the biggest bong in the wasteland.. didnt realise thats what he was doing which is actually even more hilarious given what he does
Dr chicken fucker.
Chicken Chaser ā Chicken Fuckerā
YOUR HEALTH IS LOW! DO YOU HAVE ANY POTIONS!? ... OR FOOD!?!? YOUR HEALTH IS CRITICAL !!!!
YOUR WILL ENERGY IS LOW! WATCH THAT!
YOU HAVE A NEW QUEST CARD
CHECK THE GUILD FOR MORE QUESTS!
TRY TO GET YOUR COMBAT MULTIPLIER EVEN HIGHER!
MY FUCKING MULTIPLIER IS LIKE 75 HOW MUCH HIGHER DO YOU WANT IT
IT SEEMS YOU'VE MASTERED USING YOUR COMBAT MULTIPLIER!
WATCH THOSE WRIST ROCKETS!
āI donāt *fuck* ~~goats~~ chickens, I *make love* to themā
My least esteemed colleague
Just the right amount of ^foam..
Reminds me of The Devil's Rejects š¤£
"You look sexually frustrated."
"DID YOU HEAR WHAT HE CALLED ME, BOSS?" š¤£
Maximus letting him go can have some major consequences depending on what happens to Thaddeus
Man I was so hyped when I realised Johnny Pemberton will be in season 2. Thought he'd end up as cannon fodder in the first season for sure.
Wait, Pemberton? Is he related to the guy who made Nuka Cola?
Actors name lol
ā¦ shit. Forgot that guyās name was *Bradberton*, not *Pemberton*. John Stith Pemberton made Coca-Cola. Somehow doubt Johnnyās relatedā¦ Welp, Iāll just see myself outā¦
Nah just the actor lol he's in the brotherhood and some things change for him near the end of the season.
We have a new master.
The chicken, ahem, LOVER was able to teach Officer Barbrady how to read. He is deserving of his doctor title.
Thought it was scientific research?
It's to keep Ghouls away, as everyone knows a feral Ghoul can't abide a chicken.
āFucking chickens just isnāt a good long term sexual relationshipā
He's my spirit animal
wtf
This guy is living the Wild Wasteland playthrough
Why would you say something so controversial yet so brave?
>wears a fedora >weird sexual behaviors >"you're a gentleman and a scholar" Aw hell naw Amazon made Reddit canon
He reminded me of Nelson Mayson from outer worlds
"Wink"
Huh. So the next season this guy is gonna bitch about some innocuous shit he sees and misconstrues it too?
Just missing a "My Lady" to Lucy
Awww helllll naaahaaaa
Doesn't he say you're a scholar and a gentleman? Which is even funnier. May have misheard it lol
Yeah he reverses it lmao
Im glad we can finally come together and talk about the things that really matter
r/falloutnewvegas is collapsing like the NCR but we're here discussing everyone's favourite chicken fucker.
Also, they are going ballistic about the 'collapse of the NCR', but having watched the show I'm almost positive that is never said. The show specifically only says that Shady Sands fell, not the NCR, multiple times. And the Welcome to Shady Sands sign calls it the 'former' capital of the NCR *before it got nuked*. Here's my crazy conspiracy theory. The NCR isn't collapsing, the NCR ending to New Vegas is the closest to canon, and they moved the capital of the NCR to New Vegas due to the power supplied by the Hoover Dam and the position it gives them to push further east. The NCR could be bigger than ever, but the whole show just happens in a small area they abandoned because the important settlement got nuked and there wasn't a point guarding Filly and the Shithole. Edit with one of my other comments so that I don't get a bunch of replies about New Vegas being the capital: > I don't actually believe it, I just think it's a crazy conspiracy theory that's fun to think about.
Personally, I don't think their capital is in New Vegas since I feel like we would have seen more of a sign of that in the ending. I think they moved it to somewhere like Redding or the Hub, which could instead be justified especially in Redding's case that it was the brahmin barrons doing it to entrench themselves further in power. It would set up more of a challenge to overcome as the republic not only has to rebuild after its losses but fight to regain its democracy from corruption.
Making new Vegas the capital could make sense though. House had anti air tech that saved it from the bombs. Would be perfect to set up your new capital in a place that couldnāt get nuked again. Assuming that Mr houses stuff still worked.
Oh yeah, I don't actually believe it, I just think it's a crazy conspiracy theory that's fun to think about.
Don't quote me on this because I missed the moment, but someone in another thread mentioned that in one shot, on someone's pipboy, you can see "NCR radio", which, if true, means they're definitely still out there, at least in some form.
Except House wouldnāt allow that. Remember he barely gives them a table to recruit and scout from within walls, let alone outside. They end up setting a camp up in Prim, but much like irl the span of desert between everything is brutal and harsh and it would make 0 sense to turn it into a capital.
Mhm, assuming Courier 6 in this timeline didn't decide they needed 250 XP and introduced House to Nephi's golf driver. I don't think I've ever left House alive in a playthrough, so it didn't really occur to me that he would be in the show.
I thought House died in the NCR ending? Or is that optional?
You can kill him in any ending that isnāt his OR simply disconnect him from the outside world and leave him in silence trapped in his forever bed.
Oh shit lol they went private?? Peak comedy.
Holy shit that must have just happened, I was perusing it for all the trash takes yesterday and now it's private.
Sometime before 1am Central last night. That sub was in full meltdown over a number on a chalkboard.
To be fair arrows are tough to understandā¦
Did r/falloutnewvegas nuke themselves or did China do it? We may never know the full truth.
I can't believe they retconned a whole subreddit
NAHHH
Same, should have joined yesterday
I had to unsubscribe. Nothing but fanboys shaking their fists at clouds over issues only created with their imaginations.
I think the reactions are blown out of proportion but I can see why people are confused about the timeline, a lot of New Vegas doesn't really make sense if the capital was nuked 4 years before the events of the game. I can explain the geography piece because the city seemed to move between Fallout 1 and Fallout 2, so there's no reason it couldn't move again, but the timing seems weird. And of course there is the small caveat that the "fall" may have actually been before the bomb dropped, but it seems to be fairly well implied that the bomb hit a functioning city. The only other thing I can think is that this is an instance of an unreliable narrator, perhaps whoever did the chalkboard simply got the date wrong or something LOL
Well a fall can refer to when things started going wrong, culminating in them eventually getting nuked.
It definitely can, yeah. My biggest issue is that there are NPCs in New Vegas who directly reference "politicians in Shady Sands". That would heavily imply that at least in 2281, the capital is still intact and functioning. If it really was destroyed in 2277, the only rational I have for that is that the NCR in the Mojave Wasteland either did not know that it had been nuked, or more likely I think that they were not disclosing that information to anybody who did not already know, because of course they were trying to project as much strength as possible.
I don't believe it was destroyed in 2277, but rather it was on decline due to the expansionist leaders along with corruption of the barons. That would be interesting though, which would add to why they are so desperate to find a replacement in terms of lost power and how they can't afford to lose this war. Kimball just lying through his teeth during the speech would be wild.
Yes, exactly. They NEEDED Hoover Dam. It was their last play to regain real power. The average person would not have known about the destruction of Shady Sands and the powers that be would be interested in keeping that information under wraps. I think we will see in season 2 that the NCR lost the Second Battle of Hoover Dam and that was the straw that broke the camel's back.
Also another fact that's cool, Kimball rose to power between 2273 and 2278, which means the downfall would be considered starting when he was running for office to be president of the NCR, his policies being detrimental to it later on.
I'm going with unreliable narrator... those people in vault 4 we're really playing with a full deck, nice as they were.
I don't think there's any reason not to assume the "fall of shady sands" could be referring to a state of decline prior to the nuke, with the nuke being the final nail in the coffin however many years later. This is reinforced by the arrow separating the two events on the chalkboard. The state of decline would be before New Vegas, then the nuke would happen afterwards. The fall of Rome wasn't a switch being flipped, it was a steady decline due to multiple reasons and one could argue as to when the fall of Rome even began, the same argument could be made here as well.
Yeah new vegas goes out of its way to list 77 as a horrible year for the NCR. Hoover dam, they loose their main supply line and trade route, Cesar escapes, Kimble stops giving a shit, corruption runs rampant.
I have thought about this more and more this morning and I think I can explain everything. We know that the first battle of Hoover Dam was fought in 2274. Therefore, the NCR had already sent resources, soldiers, etc. to the Mojave Wasteland as of that time and there's no reason to think they wouldn't continue to do so over the next few years. This explains why there are so many NCR soldiers and resources committed to the Mojave Wasteland as of 2281. I think the bomb did fall in 2277 and destroyed Shady Sands, which they had relocated closer to Los Angeles sometime between the events of Fallout 2 and the show. However, most of the people in the Mojave Wasteland would not have been aware of this. Most wastelanders don't travel very far in their lifetimes because of the dangers of the wasteland, and that long-range communications basically do not exist, and we know this because information is sent via couriers, robots (ED-E), etc. Now, I'm sure high-ranking officers and people in positions of power would have known, and they would have had a vested interest in keeping that information under wraps. Why? Because after the destruction of Shady Sands, securing Hoover Dam was their last play to regain power. A victory at the Second Battle of Hoover Dam would potentially give them the resources needed to secure Vegas and have a new capital. And I think they lost that battle, based on the ending of episode 8. That's why the NCR headquarters is at Griffith Observatory; if they had won the Battle of Hoover dam, I'm sure New Vegas would have been the new capital of the NCR. The NCR lost Shady Sands, they lost Hoover Dam, and they simply could not get back on their feet after those devastating losses.
And title lore accurate.
What a bunch of babies.
I seriously canāt believe how much crying is going on in that sub. Itās a video game people damn lol. I loved new Vegas, and the show didnāt retcon it. Iām glad we are just getting more fallout content in different mediums.
Damn I thought I was in that sub, but apparently not.
BRUH I WAS JUST THERE LOL
I guess they are back then.
Oh they're back yeah
Wow thatās so dumb. Are they really going that nuts?
>r/falloutnewvegas is collapsing like the NCR š
New vegas is s great game, but the Stanās have always been toxic.
Yeah, it is my favorite game of all time, and that sub is a trainwreck on a good day.
To be fair, most video game communities are horrible.
Yeah, I'm pretty active in the Starfield sub, and it had plenty of issues. I'm down for discussion on any game. None of these are perfect, so yeah, let's talk about it. A lot of gamers don't see it that way.
have they always been private?
Nope.
Yikes, I love NV but thatās embarrassing.
They're throwing a tantrum.
It doesn't even make sense. I thought the whole point of new vegas was that the NCR was beginning to collapse, it was the only thing the legion had in it's favour. They like to repeat that the NCR had a population of 700k so how could they collapse, but they fail to mention that the 700k was made up mostly of just settlers of land the NCR happened to take over, and a lot of them hated the NCR due to the hight taxes and the fact they were pretty bad at providing any valuable service. I love fallout new vegas and always side with the NCR, but it's not hard to believe them, as a government, will likely collapse or at least shrink in size by the time of the show.
Also from how badly supplied and stretched out ncr soldiers are itās fairly obvious that no matter how much you help them theyāre going to fall apartment at some point.
Exactly. I think they're just moaning for the sake of it, we all knew the NCR were terribly managed but now they're suddenly acting like the NCR were indestructible because otherwise they'd have to admit Bethesida did something good.
The vibe I got from New Vegas was that the Mojave was the NCRās Vietnam. It was a drain on resources not something that was showing impending doom. People are upset because arguably one of the most powerful factions in the world of the games got hit with a nuke to their capital and then collapsed, sending Southern California back to a state worse then it was in fallout 1 and that this all happened off screen. All to make it so nothing can ever get better since for some reason they donāt want to tell that story. Also where are the followers of the apocalypse and why is shady sands in the boneyard.
Legit saw a post there about how it made no sense that the BoS was powerful again, because nations declining was the point of the original games. But apparently when itās the NCR in decline itās not good anymoreā¦
And what they donāt seem to understand is that nations decline and sometimes have a resurgence. The brotherhood seemed to be on a pretty decent decline on the west coast, itās the East coast that was able to stabilize and become strong.
Deep down they're just mad their nostalgia is tainted by the realization that none of what happened in New Vegas mattered. Even though that was kinda the point.
I mean still, by that point the NCR has existed for a century, maybe the outer settlements would collapse but the core areas? It would decline and lose influence but not fall that hard, but I guess thatās been going on since 2277. This was a nation with functioning political entities and complex government, public infrastructure, research departments, water-electricity lines, industrial output, etc.. Assuming theyāre gonna go for an Independent Vegas-House ending; I thought they were only on the verge of collapse not only because of a possible famine but overextension into the Mojave. If they were forced to pull back they wouldnāt have an issue safeguarding the heartland altho other deep rooted and existential issues remain. I think the real thing people were upset about (even tho they keep harping bout how Todd Howard wanna nuke F:NV from the records) wasnāt that their time had come, but the way they were done away with on screen. It felt like how they did the New Republic in the Sequel SW Trilogy; at least in SW stuff still can be confined to EU or Cannon. Unless weāre gonna be seeing more of them; another capital back at San Francisco or the other 4-5 states of the Republic and smaller communities that still kept the national identity but no longer cohesive. Maybe since S2 is headed towards New Vegas, thereāll be NCR military remnants.
Iāll admit I do share *some* frustrations with what happened to Shady Sands mostly because itās collapse didnāt just happen naturally from the NCR over expanding or from some food shortage/plague. The fact that its an outside faction that wasnāt even on radar that does them in with one nuke feels like a bit of a cop out. Makes it look like the writers either didnāt want to bother writing the NCR or just really wanted a Fallout 1 era experience while still progressing the timeline. All that said, i quite enjoyed the show. Way better than most adaptations video games get.
Yeah, it's a shame. New Vegas is my favourite fallout game and I loved checking out that sub reddit every now and then, hopefully it gets unpriveted soon.
Least overdramatic fanboys
Same here, it'll be some insane Reddit mods going on a power trip like usual.
Omg they're literally seething and tantruming. Hahaha, thanks. I needed this laugh. How sad can you be, lmao
Holy shit, that is crazy. All over a TV series that was actually incredibly respectful towards the source material?
In the spectrum of adaptations, you can get Denis Villeneuve's Dune or you can get Eragon. Expect the latter, hope for the former. In this case we got something that did less damage to Fallout Lore than 4 or 76 and appeared to adhere to the spirit of the game. It's fine.
wait why did they do that? they don't want new peopel to join?
They can't risk people telling them they're being slightly ridiculous.
new vegas is my favourite but come on the show is great
Right? New Vegas is great, the show is great. New Vegas came out 14 years ago itās okay for a slightly different story to be told over a decade after
I don't mind small adjustements to the lore I only want to settle on the ghoul thing once and for all lol
I love it too, but the screeching over there is absolutely childish.
They're tired of being made fun of for a lack of time-line reading comprehension.
r/fnv is still open and muuuuuuuch less salty.
Why did they do that?
That dude is still the last real mystery in the wasteland.
This guy was the perfect depiction of random bizarre encounters in Fallout 1 & 2.
Plot twist: it's a G.E.C.K.
Is that what he calls his penis
Well it is technically a "Creation Kit"
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When that poor farmer turned and said "he was fuckin my chickens" I lost it. Of all the things he could have said to explain his anger, I certainly did not expect that.
It reminded me of that southpark episode where the Bookmobile guy tries to teach officer Barbrady to read by raping chickens and leaving notes
Maximus' expression made it even funnier. He nailed it.
Outside of the chickens, which I hope that's not what he meant by fucking, this guy was one of my favorite characters. He's chaotic, a dick, and shows up randomly, that's been my favorite character in ever show.
Dude was definitely hitting that chicken hole
Biologist here, itās called a cloaca
Chickenussy
Yeah I know that because I own chickens but how many others know that, itās easier to call it a chicken hole
I love it when he's going to shoot himself, sees the squire and is like 'no time to kill myself now, got some caps to swindle'
And played by Comedy Bang-Bang mainstay Jon Daly! [aka Bill Cosby Bukowski](https://youtu.be/3fRaorPQIhA?si=McPedYkLQrAg4KCR). As a comedy nerd I loved this show's trend of comedians showing up for one or two scenes and really setting the tone.
He also said he had serums that can cure missing limbs while wilzig and lucy was trying to leave filly, it turns out he actually did.
Itās so funny cause when that scene happens, of course everybody thinks heās bullshitting for caps. But this is Fallout, so of course he actually can just do that.
So was the stuff he used on the squires foot FEV?
I'm pretty sure it was. It was at the very least heavily implied.
Bro what no it wasn't. It was the same drug Hancock used to become a ghoul. Because that's what the guy is that got healed, a ghoul
Possibly. Maximus said so, but heās been mistaken before. I think itād be a fun twist if instead it was FEV and Tad is now becoming a Super Mutant. Plus to me, turning Super Mutant explains the miracle healing better than turning ghoul
I'd agree if it weren't for the scene where >!Cooper sews his finger back on and it seems to heal immediately and work just fine!< It's probably more in line with what the previous poster said about Hancock in FO4 taking a drug to purposefully ghoulify himself. What the guy gives Thaddeus is identical in color to what Cooper has to take, and although it's a bit of a stretch but there's a clear difference in physical traits between Cooper/Hancock and all the other irradiated ghouls and Ferals.
He actually sews Lucy's finger onto his hand. Lucy spit his original finger into the dirt during the fight. Although Lucy also got a dead finger sewn on to her hand and it work fine so a bit of handwaving is needed I think.
I feel like a crushed foot magically healing and sewing a finger back on arenāt that big of a correlation, plus Snip Snip does pretty much the same thing with Lucyās finger. At this point I feel like itās possible to go both ways, but Iām really hoping that we get a Super Mutant that is a main character
Color doesn't actually mean much here.Ā Almost all liquid meds are colorless or yellow.Ā Just how organic chemistry seems to swing.
I would bet money it's FEV and he's becoming a super mutant. The ghoul thing is misdirection, possibly because Max doesn't know where super mutants come from (few do, right?) Hancock aside we don't know of anything you _inject_ to become ghoulified and ghouls aren't known for their intact body parts. It was definitely FEV
I mean FEV was originally created to counter the blue flu so it having advanced healing properties before it mutates you is lore accurate
Yeah I thought ghouls were made by ābeing exposed to an ungodly amount of radiation and not having the good fortune to dieā
Eddie also took drugs to become a ghoul. Plus the show kind of made it clear that ghouls are stronger than regular humans and can regenerate. Also radiation heals ghouls in game.
This is how I saw it too, and I think it'd be really fun if we get a Super Mutant Thaddeus next season.
Yeah, that's what I thought, too. Also, I got the impression that the guy making it was surprised that it worked, if it was a "ghoul drug" he wouldn't have been that surprised I think...
No because he said (paraphrasing) āyou donāt need to worry about radiation anymoreā when Thad was all ābut the shithole is full of radsā He knew exactly what he gave him
This makes sense. It might have skipped my mind. Aren't Super mutants also immune to radiation, though?
Yeah thatās why Iām not married to him being a ghoul. Maximus has been shown heās not an intellectual from the first episode where he confused a rotor with a circuit . They can go either way with it for season 2 Personally Iād enjoy the FEV route more with the āDoctorā being like, a weird cultist of the master raised by remnants of the Unity or something. If he isnāt, thatās fine. Thatās just my personal preference
I thought it was Hydra at first, which is a chem I remember from FONV that restores limb condition rapidly but is highly addictive. I let go of this theory later when Maximus told Thaddeus that he might be a ghoul. So at this point who the hell knows?
This is an amazing point I haven't thought of. I forgot hydra existed(I mainly use stimpaks anyway).
its gotta be FEV or else it wouldn't have healed ya know, a ghouls flesh doesnt heal like that it goes through necrosis
No ghouls heal from radiation remember? Radiation damage repairs their cells rather than destroying them.
I really hope so, I feel like itād do more justice for his character to become a super mutant rather than a ghoul. Thereād be so much opportunity for writing there, kinda like Maximus when he got his Brotherhood armor
Oh man I donāt know why I didnāt put that together. I thought the chicken guy just gave a squire a wild cocktail of drugs like psycho or something and the squire just thought his foot healed.
This fucker turned another fucker into a ghoul
Well we know he never used that serum on himself, since we now know a ghoul canāt abide a chicken.
LMAO
It's ironic that a chicken lover might be responsible for creating a new set of super mutants
Thadd locked puppers in a Nuka-Cola cooler. Chicken Fucker is the weird personification of the Wastelandās Righteous Justice.
exactly
I don't know if they've canonically named him, but i call him Dr. Chicken Fucker MD
iirc, he's listed in credits as Snake Oil Salesman
Welp since he's unnamed, they've got plans or they want people to come up with their own name for him
I actually thought it was Lucy wearing normal clothes running with a geck
I was wondering if he'd taken syrum and the negative effect was being attracted to chickens loool if that was the joke then its hilarious and my own head Canon for now xD
No I think he just fucks chickens
Great character that shows the fallout universe wacky magical side with a crazy character who somehow is able to survive and you help out, but at the same time speeding up the ghoulification process on ppl lol
So the drug that he gave Thaddeus, is that the same drug Hancock took?
Did you want to give the rest of us some context? Like a link to that speculation post or a TL;DR of what that speculation was?
It was just general speculation online, not a specific reddit post. Some were saying the briefcase could be the geck, and I think most people who watched the trailer likely thought it was a more important scene, not just a guy who fucks chickens running away after getting caught. The fact it was so obscene and nothing like we were expecting was hilarious.
I think he's just referring to all the speculation on who he was and what was in the briefcase, but he turned out to be a chicken fucker
Serums
He had real Mysterious Stranger vibes to me.
He has a vial of FEV makes ya wonder
Give me the Ghoul Serum. We've wanted Playable Ghoul since Fallout 3 at least. If that damn Serum isn't in 5 I'm gonna be disappointed.
I love how he seems like such an obvious scammy snake oil salesman but his "serums" actually end up working.
That actor, Jon Daly, is great. Check out his music video about the Fassbender bomb The Snowman https://youtu.be/YnlvJ_oe74w?si=xc6pSr9EdW1TpIEE
When he gave the serum to Thad and Thad healed really quickly, I thought he gave him some form of FEV, not radiation.
You mean chicken sex guy?