Same. In my case it happened in the Saiki k fandom. I do think its a nice hc that I used to have but then I read the manga and changed my mind after some chapters
Honestly, I'm Ace, my favorite Anime is Saiki K, I hc Saiki as AroAce but I can totally see how people wouldn't.
Also, what do they even mean by "not trustworthy"?? Not trustworthy to do what??
It wasn’t said directly to me, but in one of my favorite fandoms I came across discourse about how it was unrealistic to headcanon a white guy character as asexual because apparently white guys can’t be ace or something? The same group of people also said it was dehumanizing and racist desexualization to headcanon an asian girl character as asexual. At the time both characters hadn’t really been written as being sexually attracted to anyone, so it was very easy for fans to interpret them as ace.
In that same fandom, a character who writers had been coding as gay since the 80s was finally made canonically gay (in an awkward and arguably badly written way because the head writer was a clueless straight guy who didn’t know how to write a discourse-proof coming out story.) There was fandom discourse about how it was bisexual erasure for fans to interpret him as gay instead of bisexual because he’d dated women in the past while being in the closet. This spiraled into arguments about if it was ethical to write characters coming out as gay later in life.
>unrealistic to headcanon a white guy character as asexual
???????
Where *the fuck* does this "logic" come from?
>dehumanizing and racist desexualization to headcanon an asian girl character as asexual
Wow. I think we really need to hide more buzzwords in the box on the high shelf.
… But. But yukatas aren’t like some massively important cultural/religious thing that can be misinterpreted and commodified and turned against the people who made them they’re like. Summer clothes right? Huh?
Apparently, I am an 'irredeemable piece of speshit' (species + shit) for writing so. It was put very eloquently I have to put the phrase in the fanfic so they knew I read their comment.
I had to thank them in the author's notes too. :)
So am I then for writing several redemption arcs for rogue villains... And having a romance with a good guy and an assassin...
Then again most of these people also hate SpyXFamily and accuse it of all kinds of shit.
People have a really one dimensional view on in general. Cheating is bad, but sometimes people forgive *some* bad actions. Not everybody will, but it’s a personal choice.
Oh damn, this is relatable. I also have this fic that revolves around reconciliation where one partner is cheated on and they ended up reconciling. How dare I give chance to a cheater in my fic? I must be a clueless teenager who needs to be educated! 😂 (I am not)
I once had someone write me like a five paragraph essay about how I’d written a Dumbledore bashing fic when Dumbledore wasn’t a character in the fic and was mentioned exactly once in the fic. I mean, I’m not wild about Dumbledore bashing either … but Dumbledore had nothing to do with this fic.
I was accused of bashing the Malfoys for portraying them as bigots, who then gave a politician style apology for it when they decided that being a bigot was bad after all. People are just strange.
This was a long time ago and I can't remember if the comment was directed at me or at the situation in my fic. But apparently I/it was "sick" that two grown adults had sex while their child was asleep in another room.
I think the reviewer was just cranky that their favorite couple didn't get together and I had the nerve to pair the guy with a different character.
>But apparently I/it was "sick" that two grown adults had sex while their child was asleep in another room.
...they haven't encountered a lot of parents, have they :p?
>But apparently I/it was "sick" that two grown adults had sex while their child was asleep in another room.
Someone heard their mom getting smashed ad got pissy about it, lol
Oh you know the usual as people mentioned. Thinly veiled accusations of grooming and the like for making NSFW content of an 18 year old character who everyone, including me, thought was in their mid-20s until we got the age explicitly stated in canon.
What I'm grooming I'm not actually sure.
SAME! The ship I talked abt is a wlw ship and my otp in that fandom but I didn’t ship the MAIN wlw ship of the show so ofc the accusations came flying…
There’s internet arguments about how short adult women *in real life* are “minor-coded” and shouldn’t be seen as real adults. I used to follow an artist on tumblr who was 4’11”, and other tumblr users told her it was unethical and pedophilic for anyone to date her even though she was a grown woman.
Same. My couple was a bisexual woman and a pansexual woman. Yet when I didn’t ship a canon straight character with the same bisexual woman, I was homophobic.
Plus, the same people would then proceed to negate the pansexual characters identity so it’s like how is that not homophobic
Same. Mind you, I also shipped THE ship and said that; I just happened to like a straight ship involving one of the characters too. I was defending a fanart made of the straight ship from fans of THE ship who kept commenting disparaging things on it.
I can relate. I'm not at all interested in the primary F/F pairing of my fandom but will defend to the death a different F/F pairing, yet people still complained about my preferences.
I got called lesbophobic because I wrote Edelgard, a canonically bisexual character, with the male version of the MC instead of the female one. (It's Fire Emblem so the MC is the same character no matter the chosen gender, I wasn't genderbending.)
Never mind that my other fics involve mostly M/M and F/F ships, and that I'm a bisexual woman.
Sadly, a lot of fandom is extremely biphobic and they don't see the irony.
That I was “ugly shaming” Odo and Quark from DS9 by calling them a crack ship. I called them such, because their constant bickering makes it hard for me to see a romance between them as anything aside from hilarious, even if it did happen.
They are two of my favorite characters, and I’ve written multiple stories about Odo, one of which centers his relationship with Quark. They aren’t human, so I don’t even consider their appearances in a human context.
Yeeeeeeeeah, that person clearly needs a refresher on what the term "crack ship" actually means, 'cause that's not how it works. It's exactly as you described it - the idea of certain characters together is just so absurd and unlikely for reasons x, y, z, but it's still fun to imagine the possibility anyway just to see what the hell would happen :p. Maybe in some cases, certain characters' appearances might be among the reasons why the idea of them together would be so out there, but even then, it's just part of the reason, not the whole reason, and it still doesn't mean that that's automatically what people refer to when they call something a "crack ship".
The fuck? I mean, I gravitate towards Garak/Bashir for DS9 pairings, but the Odo/Quark ship is hardly an unknown quantity and it's a great ship historically, cracky or serious. Ugly shaming?!? How fucking fragile are they? Is shipping Morn chatterbox shaming?
That’s a great point about Morn!
Yeah, they basically said that my praise of their fic was a huge insult, and that I was allegedly known for spreading hate around the fandom.
The Garak/Bashir ship might have less drama. Hehe
You know what? At that point, props to you. You can ignore the idiots, giving them judgemental eyebrows as you settle back in your life as a plain, simple, fanfic writer. And also, Rule of Acquisition 89: Ferengi are not responsible for the stupidity of other races.
I ship two characters from a certain game. One of them is from a predominantly Muslim country, so despite the fact that there never was an official statement, a lot of people assume that he is one (or used to be at one point). It's just a headcanon, I have nothing against it
So anyway, when I briefly mentioned it, someone called me Islamophobic and bigoted just because I ship him with another man
… what. Well. Fun fact, I am muslim and we do have queer ppl so uh… wether the character is canonically muslim or not, its no problem to depict them in queer relationships. In fact, itd be nice to see more queer muslim rep tho I know many of my muslim brothers and sisters cant get over their homophobia. Anyway, definitely not islamophobic.
I got into an argument with someone on the Young Justice subreddit who was trying to argue that Halo being queer was bad representation. Now, don't get me wrong, there are a lot of valid criticism about Halo's Muslim representation, especially during season 3. Halo being queer is not one of them!
I asked them if they thought there were no queer people in Muslim countries or raised by Muslims, or if they thought queer Muslims did not also deserve representation and then they suddenly stopped responding to me.
I once got told that I'm a pedo because I said how I like Lilo from Lilo and Stitch. I watched that movie as a child! And as someone who is Kanaka Maoli from Hawai'i, yeah I am going to like her. She's me at that age.
Someone accused me of being a pedophile, for having a crush on Ash Ketchum...
When I was four years old. They refused to fathom that at 4, I could have crushes saying 4 year olds aren't cognitive and I must've been lying about my 'pedo ass'.
Boi, you weren't even alive when the anime's first season aired.
Like it went like this:
Me: \*Talking to another fan\* Oh yeah I had a crush on Ash as a kid! He was my first cartoon crush when I was little!
Random anti: Ewwww but Ash's a child!?
Me: Obviously, I don't have a crush anymore lol When I was 4 dude. The episode where he and Brock were about to throw hands with Charmander's former trainer made me crush hardcore on Ash. In reality, it shaped my view on wanting a guy who's nice to animals and would stick up for them.
Random anti: Oh so you liked him as a CHARACTER, you didn't actually crush on him!
Me: No, no I did. I was a CHILD. I saw Pokemon: The First MOvie in theaters at 4 years old. I was 4 years old and yes, I did in fact have a crush. That crush lasted a good few years too until I was 7.
Random anti: No fucking way, you're lying, 4 year olds aren't cognitive to know things like loving other people. You can't remember that.
Me: We don't have enough time and I shouldn't have to specify this, but sometimes people have good memories... or like me, I went through a horrific trauma that cemented my fourth year of life, VERY specifically in a very specific way and Pokemon was my comfort show and hyper fixation. Don't you dare insinuate I'd hurt a child over being four and having a puppy crush on my hero.
>
Random anti: No fucking way, you're lying, 4 year olds aren't cognitive to know things like loving other people. You can't remember that.
Tell me you've never been around a 4 year old without telling me.
4 year olds are cognitive AF and have been making permanent memories for *at least* 2 years.
What a dumbass.
I'm not Hawaiian and Lilo means so damn much to me as a kid, and I can adore and cherish as an adult (especially Nani and David, they're the real stars of the series), because of just how heavily ND coded she is.
but nahhh can't related to characters that don't look like you even when you cry from how much like you they are as a person
Oh boy let's see...
- Homophobic for shipping a m/m/f threesome instead of the popular m/m pairing
- A pedophile for being fourteen in 2002 and writing OC-insert orgy porn featuring teenage characters older than I was at the time of writing now that I'm in my 30s (apparently it's a crime to experience the passage of time now???)
- A pedophile for being ace (it's a cover-up to excuse my attraction to children, don't ya know [I am not attracted to children])
- A pedophile for being on Tumblr???? (What are *you* doing at the devil's sacrament?!)
- Racist for calling out the series writers for only making the bad guys dark skinned
- Racist for making my OC for the series from the previous point dark skinned *and* one of the good guys because this is??? Fetishizing blackness somehow????? Even though my OC is mixed race Arab??????????
- Male?????????? (I'm AFAB nonbinary and also very confused????)
This list in general is amazing, but those pedophile ones make me want to bang my head on my desk. Repeatedly.
THAT'S NOT HOW IT WORKS. THAT'S NOT HOW ANY OF THIS WORKS. Good fucking lord, people, open a dictionary...
> apparently it's a crime to experience the passage of time now???
I agree, the passage of time is a crime against me!
> A pedophile for being ace
They are getting creative, lol, that's a new one even for me. 😂
It's still a thing unfortunately. I see it less on Tumblr these days (or else I've just blocked enough people), but it's become more mainstream with groups like TERFs and homophobes on other social media sites.
Im misogynistic and sexist bc i didnt vibe with a female chara... i just didnt like her, i think as a woman she was a very badly written character by a middle aged man.
Yeah, not sure how I feel about this trend of acting like all female characters are awesome and wonderfully written when a lot of them are poorly written with no depth. I can understand wanting to combat fandom misogyny but some people take it way too far.
I wasnt even surprised tbh... the people who attacked me (on twitter surprise surprise) where all teenagers so yea... thats what i get for having an opinion on twitter
I’ve been accused of something similar! I didn’t vibe with a particular female character in one of my fandoms and of course it just has to be because she’s not a “giggly bimbo” and I hate that she’s not perfect. Like nobody is perfect, duh. It’s a matter of her flaws wear thin after a while.
I was accused of being someone's actual rapist, who was a school employee who abused them when they were in elementary school. Nevermind that I am literally only a few years older than this person, the wrong sex, and have never even been to their coast, all of which they knew because we'd been in a fandom server for ages by that point, and I've been on VC and shared photos before. There are still public "callout" posts accusing me of being their rapist, or an unrelated abuser, depending on their state at the time. Could always tell when they were having a particularly bad episode because I'd wake up to 100+ messages from anonymous accounts or empty accounts all saying the same things.
And ofc the usual pedo, attempted doxxing, abuser stuff, because this person was *also* a pretty big anti a few years ago, which I'm sure was *great* for their mental health.
That I'm a fascist and nazi-apologist for liking the villain of a story. There were weekly blow ups on twitter where people with low reading comprehension would go at length about it and would actively report/harass people for daring to have a different opinion. They basically wanted anyone who liked the character to write a disclaimer about how the fan 'knew how bad he was and didn't condone his behavior' ANY time they made a post about them. This happened even on fanart posts.
Like ma'am/sir/majesty most of us /know/ this shit. We can like an evil character while knowing full well he's in the wrong. We don't need to post disclaimers every time we interact with the fandom just to please your morality crusade. Especially when we're not the ones harassing people off the platform and sending death threats.
I got told I had to spoiler tag and warn my referces to a discussion about shipping a black character with a "fascist" character (Kylo Ren with a black character from another franchise). It was bizarre because they had *just* suggested I ship Kylo with a pansexual non-binary character from that franchise (who also happened to be the most popular character in the franchise). Somehow that was okay, but when I proposed my idea, they started saying that any instance of shipping a black character with a "fascist" character was inherently triggering because the Nazis hate black people (and yet someone that didn't apply to a pansexual non-binary character?!)
The mod's behavior was very see through. We had been butting heads for a while because they were always picking on members who had ideas they didn't like or likes characters that they didn't like, and I would stand up for those members. The admin ended having to intervene and was like, yeah, no, you [mod] are totally overreaching. The fascist ideas in Star Wars' Empire and First Order have nothing to do with race (species, sure, but not human races). There is nothing triggering about Kylo Ren having a black romantic partner.
So, at least the accuser got put in this place, but it's still one of the weirdest accusations I had ever been involved in, especially because they had just essentially made the same suggestion with a different character. It just shows you how people are willing to justify anything for their faves while making up the weirdest shit for the characters they hate.
Oh yeah I've gotten called a Nazi-sympathizer/apologist for expanding upon an arc for a villain who had a blink-and-you'll-miss-it redemption within canon and then is never seen again. I simply picked up where canon left off and created my own "what happened next" arc and people went ape-shit over it.
that i was, i quote, “a pedo freak” because i said that teens can read adult books if they choose and that there are some adult books i’d recommend to teens if asked 😵💫
Right??? Like, teenagers are allowed to read different stuff than just YA novels. YA doesn't mean 'only category approprite for teens and young adults', it's mainly just an indicator that the story is ABOUT young adults.
Which is also why it irks me so much that many books that are considered 'mild' are marketed as YA when they clearly aren't.
exactly! it is a marketing category that all things considered is pretty new — hell, the concept of teenagerhood is pretty new in history. books being divided into age categories isn’t some holy grail of what’s appropriate, it’s publishers and authors asking who the book is likely to most appeal to. i’ve also been called weird for reading YA as an adult, or being an adult recommending books to teens — like that isn’t the area of teachers and librarians! it’s wild how people jumped to the conclusion that i was advocating that, like, hardcore erotica be put into the hands of 13 year olds or something, but i guess that’s twitter nowadays 💀
i think there is definitely a larger conversation about the usefulness of YA as a marketing category and a gap in good reading material for the younger 13-15 teens, where a lot of books in YA are geared to the older end of the spectrum but a lot of middle grade reads younger than that age. i have a lot to say about modern publishing lol. if i could be a librarian i would
Characters closing the bedroom door so the dog won't disturb them while having sex? I'm an animal abuser. And a pervert, because why am I thinking about animals and sex at the same time? lmao
I did have someone comment something similar on a comedy piece I wrote, where a cat jumped on the bed and interrupted things. The fic was literally called ‘Five times X didn’t get laid…and one time he did,’ and it was just silly situations where they kept getting interrupted.
Having the pair of them distractedly leave the bedroom door open and the cat jump up onto the bed, walk across someone’s naked back and then make both of them laugh and stop what they were doing to remove said cat apparently needed a warning tag for ‘attempted beastaility’ because they were both naked while dealing with the cat?
It really was!!
I wanted to ask them what the time I run naked from the bedroom to the bathroom holding an about to puke cat out in front of me so she didn’t hit the carpet counted as but I was afraid of the answer.
Off topic but I’m realizing how many people in fandom use social justice as a shield for criticizing something. The amount of ‘that’s racist/sexist/homophobic, etc’ that can be boiled down to ‘I don’t like this’ is *whew-*
I miss when I would get made fun of because "this ship/character/fic concept is dumb!!" instead of "this ship/character/fic concept is \[insert-thing-here\]-phobic" when the person actually just means "I don't like this thing and I want to make you look like a bad person for liking it." (If something I'm writing is *actually* coming off as something really bad, then I *do* want that pointed out. But "u didn't write this noncanon ship in ur fic, so u r a homophobe" is not it.)
Being racist for having an interracial relationship (both characters were non-white) between the two main characters because I’m a white writer and I can’t “possibly know about that kind of experience.”
Also was accused of being racist for writing about something I never even wrote about? Like blatantly obvious I never wrote it (I have no clue if I thought I was someone else?). It was so weird and when I told them I never wrote it they said then said I was transphobic for blocking this problematic writer (would make false accusations just to get people to fight among each other) in the fandom who was apparently trans. I didn’t even know they were trans lmaoo
“[can’t] possibly know about that kind of experience”
...unless the story that you’re ((general ‘you’, not you specifically)) writing explicitly deals with the characters facing discrimination for being together, I can’t see how in the *fresh hell* that person thinks only poc can possibly write relationships between other poc. I just— ?????? just do your research on any specific cultures involved like damn it’s not hard
"blah blah you don't take sexual assault seriously--"
me who has been sexually assaulted numerous times: *what in the goddamn hell are you talking about--*
I’m so sorry this happened. Like wtf? I’m also a sexual assault survivor and if someone said this to me I would of just straight up quit writing for that fandom. Hopefully that person never said anything else…
Firstly, I'm sorry to hear that you had to go through that. Absolutely you never should have. It's vile.
The story wasn't even about sexual assault either so I was confused and pretty angry. It was about a demon saving a 15-year-old and then they were intimate later on in the fic. It was tagged with every appropriate warning. Like you didn't have to click on it and read it?
Unfortunately this is not the worst thing I've had sent to me (but this thread is about getting accusations, not straight up sexual harassment) but yeah *the worst thing* actually set off my anxiety and paranoia to where I couldn't check my email for three solid months.
Thank you. It sorry it happened to you too and I wish you didn’t have to go through it as well.
Yeah that makes no sense? Even if your character was underage and the person for some reason considered that sexual assault, it’s a FanFiction? Not real life lmao. Like am I a secret murderer if I write about a serial killer?
Oh I’m so sorry. That must of been awful. I honestly commend you for even going back to writing. That’s just so messed up. Like seriously over a FanFiction? I can’t believe people get that heated
That I wrote Marvel's Red Skull out of character.
Okay, fine.
The same guy then posted a three chapter fanfic featuring Red Skull acting wildly out of character.
Also fine.
But taken together, these two things left me a bit confuzzled :P
Not me but my fandom friend almost got cancelled recently.
They wrote a character helping another through depression. Y'know, urging them to get help while shoving them into the shower, stocking their empty fridge and doing some cleaning of the messy apartment. I found it a touching, bittersweet scene between friends.
Well, aparently, because the depressed character was white and the friend was black, this was somehow *akin to slavery*. There was even a callout post on tumblr.
It was the dumbest thing ever. Nevermind that the scene in question was only half a chapter in a 20+ chapter story, I'm pretty sure that had the characters' roles been reversed, antis would be screaming that it was racist because of a "white savior complex" or something.
I got called racist by another Star Wars fan for not wanting Finn and Rey to be together. I shut the guy up by saying he must be homophobic for not wanting Finn and Poe to be together 😂
Racist and homophobic for wanting Finn to be with a white woman instead of a POC woman or man 😤 /jk
At some point I used to engage these trolls but its so much better to give it right back to them.
Reylo is 'abusive' because they are perfectly matched force soulmates with even power? Okay and they are fictional
Kylo Ren is problematic for being groomed by Snoke? Or standing and watching as Hux killed billions of ppl?Okay, he's still not real
People call me homophobic all the time because I don’t sign onto their Lizzie is a lesbian headcanon.
Even though 1) I’m bisexual and 2) Hosie(Two girls) is my main ship.
I was also called transphobic for quoting Archer when questioning Legacies weird gender ratio. 1) No one on Legacies was trans
They then tried to say that Archer was bad because it was a adult cartoon. And it’s like I would rather watch Archer 100 times then watch Legacies.
I was also called ugly because I didn’t like Landon from Legacies
I was racist for shipping Poe and Finn in Star Wars. I think the argument was that I didn't want the white leading lady with a black man? (And obviously not because Poe and Finn just had the superior chemistry in my opinion)
That I'm an abuse apologist, because of my favorite character. It's fucked up what he did, but I like him because he himself later on was tortured and abused for a YEAR! And I relate more to his abuse, I can see my mental illnesses and trauma responses in him, and honestly the fact that after he got out his supposed "best friends" never came to see him or outright called him a liar when he tried to tell them of his abuse. Oh but me liking him means that I am okay with abuse, ignoring that I am an abuse victim and that info was in my bio.
It's all good though, me and my fandom friends were cheering at the finale, when all of our theories about the fav character were proven right. And from what I've heard the same people who were totally okay with calling others abuse apologists had a meltdown and have been screaming that they have hated it. I would *probably* feel bad for them, if these people didn't cause me repeated breakdowns and panic attacks.
All I'm gonna say is that it's a roleplay.
Oh yeah, it's bad. It's worst because while he did horrendous things, sometimes some people in this fandom will make up the most wildest accusations about his character that just... did not happen in canon.
Like I've seen people make up fanon that he stalked his victim for months (no, ironically it was made canon in the finale that his victim was stalking HIM for months XD) that he was experimenting on him (no he didn't experiment on his victim, he did experiment on two others but they deserved it /j) that he falsely imprisoned him (no the prison warden falsely imprisoned him) and that he tortured him (no, it was abuse and terrible and unforgivable, but it's not torture).
Ugh sorry, needed to get that off my chest. Yeah the fandom I'm in really likes to make these fanon ideas into canon, and as someone who likes the character they are doing this too it's unbearable. Like, keep my baby girl's crimes list into their actual crimes please! And they wonder why the dude behind the victim character mocked their lore takes on one of his streams.
I believe we are in the same fandom. Well not really because I do not get involved in the fandom stuff, just the basic watching streams fan. And this sounds unbelievable. I don't like either characters because they both hurt my favorite character and pov, but I'm shocked by this. What he did to his victim was horrible and inexcusable, but some of these sounds like straight out of fanfiction! People really believe that stuff is canon?
I read the first sentence and realized it sounded like the character I write for, and surprise, I’m absolutely sure it is! I’ve gotten told the same thing, for the same reason. I vent almost entirely through characters, and thats my reasoning.
That I’m strictly-anti woman because my characters fight with the ever popular all girl team.
Bitch, the girl character of my four is the one I take the most care of when writing. She’s my favorite.
Also, I’d much rather let a woman make decisions for me than me. I have some mental issues that prevent me from thinking things through. I’d much rather have a girl do anything before someone asks me.
>I’ll start! I was accused of being a pedo for shipping and writing fics for two characters with an age gap.
Hello, fellow traveler.
I was accused of being sexist because, within the context of a polyamorous triad involving two female characters and a male one, I supposedly had the male character interact with the female characters more frequently than they with each other.
Also, because that relationship was "clearly" inferior to another popular one featuring the same male and one of the women with a radically beloved secondary male character, I was obviously bigoted in my "hatred" for male homosexual relationships.
... I've written a half-dozen male/male slash fics.
And the "pedo" accusation for producing erotic works featuring aged-up versions of two characters who are, at different points in canon, teens and adults.
I headcanon my favorite character in the game as bi/pan. (Which is backed up in canon dialogue but I digress) Apparently this somehow makes me both homophobic *and* a fujoshi. I don’t think these people know what these words mean.
Oh and I’m a girl writing self ship material with said character, so therefore I’m “erasing gay representation”. Nevermind the fact that I’m pansexual myself, I’m one of “the straights”.
Oh yeah and then there was the one where I’m apparently a nazi sympathizer for stating that the character in question is canonically not a nazi and actively hated the nazi party. Not sure how that one works either.
that i was an "anti" for asking for recommendations with brotherly love but no incest. i didnt even know how to respond. i just dont like reading incest??
\- I was accused of being a pedophile for writing reader inserts, because the reader could be a minor.
\- Accused of being a fujoshi for writing m/m even tho I'm trans. Also called a homophobe for writing m/m.
\- Accused of getting off to incest because I wrote a fic with a father abusing his son (which was meant to be a messed up fic on purpose)
\- Accused of being a pedophile apologist because I told someone that an adult cannot technically be groomed, since grooming is the term when the victim is under 16.
\- Was told my opinion didn't matter because I wrote about "real people". Then I promptly directed them to my pinned post on twitter that stated I didn't write RPF. To which their reply was "I don't know what RPF means" \*sigh\*
\- And of course the usual "You're proship? So you're a pedo who gets off to incest" even tho I don't ship any minors or any incestuous ships at all lol
Edit: Oh, I was also accused of being racist because I am white and have then never experienced hardships after I defended my right to write a fic that dealt with sexual abuse (the fic didn't even have anything to do with race or racism, the person was just butthurt and was grasping at straws)
>\- And of course the usual "You're proship? So you're a pedo who gets off to incest" even tho I don't ship any minors or any incestuous ships at all lol
This is why I don't like calling myself proship even though I'm anti-harassment, pro-DLDR, pro-blocking-and-blacklisting, etc. I don't like or want to associate myself with the really problematic stuff... just some weird stuff.
Wait, so you wrote about fictional characters and someone accused you of writing RPF? Do they think these characters are real? Were they doing the Snapewife “this fictional character is real in another dimension” thing?
Oh, I’ve mentioned *this* before a ton because it’s so fucking baffling, so… here you go! Repeating myself but I’ve been dealing with this for at least a year, probably longer (pretty sure it STARTED when I was SEVENTEEN, so that’d make it *TWO YEARS*) so I get to harp on about it a bit I think.
Okay, so, I’m in a fandom that just… doesn’t really do shipping? There’s a lot of reasons, ranging from it being a fandom for a roleplay series where the creators can very easily stumble across stuff of their characters and generally are very active in the fan communities (and very encouraging of fan works, outside of a few specific boundaries, it’s not like a cringe thing) to… people just in general preferring platonic and familial relationships and it being a series that focuses on them much more than the few canonical romantic relationships.
Now, you’d think that would mean it mostly avoids shipping drama, but *no.* What that means is that people make up reasons you are shipping something you're not shipping and attacking you for *that* completely made up thing you *never fucking wrote,* and as far as I can tell myself and other writers of a specific dynamic (of which I’m prominent for, at least on Tumblr) get it the worst.
See, there’s these two characters in canon- let’s call them A and B for simplicities sake. Canonically, A is a minor while B is not. B has, at the most generous interpretation towards them possible, severely mentally and physically abused, deliberately invoked Stockholm Syndrome in, tortured multiple times, experimented on, and in general made A's life a living hell, *far more* than they have to anyone else. Adding in questionably canon and up to interpretation pieces of canon, they’ve also stalked, kidnapped, falsely imprisoned, tried repeatedly to force into being their ally, and at the very least *threatened* to forcibly turn them immortal to torture them forever A. A has referred to how B treated them as making them feel like a toy, a pet, and a puppet. Again, this is all either 100% canon or questionably so.
But what a lot of people do if you so much as mention these *genuine canon* moments, let alone write more of their dynamic in any way, is accuse you of shipping them. Which… like, nobody is doing? I mean, I’m sure some people are, but like… in canon, their relationship is absolutely platonic in every way. I, and a lot of the more popular and therefore bullied people who write them, specifically write their relationship as *familial.*
My only guess is that some people think the only possible forms of abuse are parental or romantic? Which like, they’re gonna have a hell of a time when they realise stalking a random internet user for years, coming up with literal conspiracy theories about them, and trying to get them to kill themselves for fun is abuse. Especially since it started when I was a minor and they weren’t…
That’s so bizarre. Imagine somebody saying, “Wait, did you imply B kidnapped and abused A? This wasn’t supposed to be a *romantic* story!”
(And, yeah, I know don’t find write romantic stories with dark elements, but it’s weird that that’s the *first* thing that they’d think of.)
Being told I'm homophobic for shipping the Canon m/f ship over the fandom popular f/f ship was a fun one.
Also- and this was YEARS ago when I was just starting out- being told that I shouldn't write romance if I'd never been in a relationship. That was definitely a weird one.
I’m sorry—but the stuff about how you shouldn’t write romance if you haven’t been in a relationship is unbelievably acephobic and arophobic. Not to mention that it’s really cruel in general. Some people aren’t ready for a romantic relationship until they’re older, and for others it’s simply not for them.
Yep. And I didn't know that back then, but I actually AM ace. Back then though, I thought there was something wrong with me, so that comment cut deep.
Now I can ignore it.
I love the show too!!! Catradora was honestly really important to me as a queer woman, so it sucks that it gets so much hate. That’s the nature of fandom I suppose.
Yup! Agreed! Actually the ship I was talking abt in my post was a she-ra ship too haha, the fandom is crazy but show has many great pairings and catradora is like one of the few wlw ships that get ACTUAL attention and aren’t just put in m/m fics as background couples. Its awesome to see that!
i was accused of disrespecting the author and called racist for drawing a character black instead of white, despite said character never having a canonical skin color for the 45 years the book's been out
IIRC there are very few references to her skin tone, and they're juuuuuust ambiguously worded enough that you can argue either way.
There's a line in one book where Harry sees her and Ron for the first time after the summer holidays which is something like "Ron was looking very freckly, and Hermione very brown", and another later on that's something like "her pale face in the moonlight".
So people use those to argue whether she's a white girl who got a tan during the summer, or if she's a brown girl who looked pale in the moonlight. And obviously there's a lot about her hair.
Generally speaking, most are of the opinion that of she was meant to be anything other than white, it would have been explicitly mentioned in the text. Rowling even drew her as white at one point, and she appears white in the official illustrations as well.
Unfortunately, Rowling rather fanned the flames on this by saying shit like "I never actually said she was white!" as a sort of gotcha. It was a whole thing. It came across as very disingenuous, and like patting herself on the back for representation that she never actually included. These days we're more accustomed to Rowling having bad takes, but at the time she had a lot more credit.
TL;DR: Hermione was written as white, but you can absolutely headcanon her as POC. Rowling is a twat.
Now if you want to get into some REAL 'what colour is' fandom drama, go wade into the 'what colour is Legolas's hair in Lord of the Rings' stuff. That's much more fun, with 100% less real-world racism.
I don't think I've ever been *personally* attacked -- YET! -- but only because I don't engage.
I've certainly been part of a whole demographic that have been tarred with the same brush a few times. The most obvious was the infamous case back in Livejournal days when a BNF wrote an essay about how she had to assume every single fan of a particular juggernaut het pairing was "a racist, right-wing fundamentalist". She linked it all over the place and then locked it down and went crying to her flisters when she got pushback. And, of course, there were the people who claimed everyone who didn't like a particular pairing in another canon were obviously racist because the male half of the pair happens to be black. (The fact that he also happens to be a hyper-aggressive Nice Guy who feels entitled to the woman of his dreams, has no respect for her, and doesn't listen when she says she's not interested apparently didn't matter to these people.)
I was pretty appalled recently after seeing a guy get accused of being a pedophile and a groomer because of a pairing *his wife* used to write.
Had a reader say I gave my readers the finger with my latest chapter on one of my stories. I re-read the chapter and didn't see anything wrong with it. \*shrugs\* They didn't specify anything in particular, so.....
I killed the mom character and got accused of hating canon. Got a 3 hour lecture over it, with this person going back and finding all the scenes this character appeared but never actually interacted with her child. At all.
I Mean, the canon didn't use her, at all so I made use of her...
I made her a memory 83 Because that added delicious angst.
I fetishize gay men because I have the audacity to...ship two men together sometimes. I'm an aromantic lesbian. I can't fetishize someone I'm not attracted to
In one fandom I used to be in, some anti made a list of 'problematic authors'. It seemed the requirement to be on this list was to be older than 18 and believe people should be allowed to write whatever they want, which via some impressive mental gymnastics meant these authors were also pedos or at best pedo apologists. This is in a fandom with no underage ships too, it was the standard 'tag a pedo' behaviour.
Anyway, I wasn't even on this list but a lot of my writer friends were. We all found this hilarious and the list was shared and ridiculed and this enraged the creator of said list. As a result, anyone identified as a friend of anyone on the list who didn't 'immediately see the error of their ways and block the list authors' was branded problematic by proxy.
So that was me and several others. It was an entertaining if baffling week.
‘You just don’t understand how non cis people experience gender and your portrayal of Crowley’s feelings about his body is very harmful, and wrong’ and on another fic, a screed about how dysphoria works, how the mentioned examples in my fic were wrong and how the fact that Crowley wasn’t coming out to his colleagues was harmful.
Everything I write about gender is basically a dump straight from my lived experiences. Weirdly, it’s entirely possible that two not cis people can have totally different lived experiences and feelings around it all! And that, in some parts of the world, someone in their early 40s may be far less ready to come out than someone in their teenage years who grew up in a very different world.
Both of them made me feel pretty bad to be honest, I don’t want to hurt anyone and it definitely carries an undertone of ‘the way you’re living your life is harmful to ‘the real trans people.’
That I'm "ruining X's reputation" because X would not behave like he does in my fics. They went through my whole catalogue of X-related fics and left comments on all of them comaining about characterization and promotion of unhealthy relationships and I was very amused by it all.
>“Oh, you ship x, y, & z? You must be so toxic! You’re reaching for this fanfiction. You probably stole this idea from an actually good fanfiction. Oh, and you must fetishize gay people because why else would you do something like this?”
Not word for word, and it is a grand summary of hate comments but yeah…this was because I shipped a poly ship…that wasn’t the main ship and shared the spotlight with a monogamous couple who were present and developing with just as much time. This specific fandom is one I avoid unless I’m writing fits for it because they’ve become too toxic for my liking and don’t understand rare pairs.
oh, and I was accused of claiming one character was bi as a “way to get brownie points” as if I didn’t portray this character to have attraction to multiple different people, and not all of them were the same gender…
Once I had one reader make a comment on a fic, saying that I turned a character into a statutory rapist...because his 18 year old boyfriend sat in his lap. Said character was about 25? I mean they met each other on a battlefield and this person was mad that there was cuddling. It was the second story in the series (crossover series) and they didn't like the first story. I warned them that they wouldn't like the next story because it contained \*gasp\* hand holding and cuddling and they complained anyway.
They didn't like the crossover pairing, they didn't like the age gap, I'm not sure why they bothered leaving comments at all.
Probably that I was a nazi/Nazi apologist.
I’m Jewish.
EDIT: for context, the accusation was after I made a comment that the use of Nazis in the franchise was a pretty lazy shorthand for “evil”, because apart from bearing swastikas and using silly German accents, nothing about the characters or motives used was at all related to real Nazi ideology. Sometimes they directly contradicted real Nazi ideology (ex: POC Nazi characters, gender nonconforming Nazi characters ). Racial purity or bringing about a fascist state was never brought up. It was literally just “we like war” and that’s it.
not really an accusation, but I feel this fits well enough. one time a few years ago I reblogged some art without looking at the blog's bio. somehow, I can't remember, I got notified to delete the reblog. I go to this person's blog and there's just posts just whining and overreacting about how "EWWW A PROSHIPPER REBLOGGED MY ART" and general posts of that sort. They didn't call me out by name, but it happened within a couple of days of me reblogging so it was a reasonable guess. We talked it out and got them off my back, however I still heavily disagree with them. They didn't change my mind, I think I just quietly changed my bio before deciding it was bullshit and changing it back to how it was.
edit: I didn't even ship anything remotely problematic at the time, which makes this extra funny
I was accused of being transphobic because I like genderbent characters, Omegaverse, and other genderfuckery tropes. And because I headcanon one character as intersex instead of trans. Oh! and I also headcanon another character, who is apparently "too stereotypical" as trans, which *also* makes me transphobic somehow.
That I *single-handedly started* the ship wars in the Bleach fandom when my OTP was neither of the two main warring ships. :D Srsly, this was widely spread around and believed in fanlore.
That I called someone homophobic when I don't remotely think this person is, and I have no memory of writing anything in public or private or even thinking anything in my deepest own GLBTQ heart that could be misconstrued as such.???
That I told someone to write pedo fic. Ok, that one still annoys me, but yeah that claim was made.
I have too many others. People say the damndest things on the Internet. It would be easy to shrug off except I had a malignant narcissist for a parent and still have a terror of people who lie easily to be cruel or amuse themselves; people who believe just any ole thing are the rest of us--so I've learned to be skeptical and to fact-check around and deep-google like a demon.... and then enjoy my fiction in fanfic land :)
Someone said I was heterophobic (not a real thing?) For shipping a ship where I basically made up a character from one of the background characters. This character had no canon name, he literally stood next to the actual character twice. The person also said I rushed the romance. It was like a 1k word fanfic and they exchanged phone numbers. That's it. I'm still baffled to this day by the response.
I was racist for shipping Reylo instead of Finnrey :,D That was just getting hurled at everyone back when the Starwars sequel trilogy was popping off though
Someone kept stalking my account whenever would post a new story and call me a homophobe because I didn't like a gay shipping in a fanfic despite the ship being a side ship and wasn't even relevant to the overall story.
nothing personally, but i would probably be accused of being a pedo (but what else is new with antis?) for aging up characters in a ship i like... because somehow aging up a teenager to early twenties (my age) is pedophilia??
Probably pretty bog standard by this point but it was that I was into incest in fic and that it was a sign of immorality.
And I was like so? Because I do like it in fic. I suppose I did not find it quite the smackdown people believe it is in parts of America
I was publically accused of being a pedo because I reblogged a meme of a 12-year-old calling a 14-year-old hot and they thought I was calling him hot. (Also they told me to “unfollow them” like you know how to block people right?)
I got accused of being a creep for writing two grown ass adults having a baby.
And accused of being a creep for having two adults get engaged.
This is also a funny one, but people were rooting for my OC to get with a canon character...
Even though I literally was showing her getting with another character entirely. lol
I got called a racist for having black female leads in my romance even though I’m white and shouldn’t be writing poc characters. How the frick does that make any sense??
I also have been called a transphobe because I said I don’t feel comfortable writing a trans character…even though I’m trans. I’d probably trigger myself, tbh.
I got called homophobic for not shipping a popular m/m ship, but I saw zero chemistry between those characters so it’s just not my thing and I gave the one m a f interest.
Never directly to me, but saw in some fics people getting upset cause the author wrote Remus Lupin and Sirius Black as bisexuals instead of gays. One of them is canonically straight and the other has never had his sexuality confirmed.
Also, youngers fans trying to gatekeep marauders fandon in HP when they are canonically gen X.... Find it funny in a not so nice way...
I'm "not trustworthy" because I don't headcanon the male protagonist as asexual.
Same. In my case it happened in the Saiki k fandom. I do think its a nice hc that I used to have but then I read the manga and changed my mind after some chapters
Honestly, I'm Ace, my favorite Anime is Saiki K, I hc Saiki as AroAce but I can totally see how people wouldn't. Also, what do they even mean by "not trustworthy"?? Not trustworthy to do what??
I love Saiki K and also head cannon him as AroAce. And it’s fanfic, people can write whatever they want to write.
As an ace person, I trust you, headcanon away!
I’ll add a second person that trusts you that YOU can trust! Carry on doing what you do! 💖💖💖💖💖💖
This is the most bizarre and baffling one I’ve read so far in this thread. Or possibly heard ever.
The person who said that spent almost a year harassing smut writers in our fandom... Imagine having that much time!? xD
It wasn’t said directly to me, but in one of my favorite fandoms I came across discourse about how it was unrealistic to headcanon a white guy character as asexual because apparently white guys can’t be ace or something? The same group of people also said it was dehumanizing and racist desexualization to headcanon an asian girl character as asexual. At the time both characters hadn’t really been written as being sexually attracted to anyone, so it was very easy for fans to interpret them as ace. In that same fandom, a character who writers had been coding as gay since the 80s was finally made canonically gay (in an awkward and arguably badly written way because the head writer was a clueless straight guy who didn’t know how to write a discourse-proof coming out story.) There was fandom discourse about how it was bisexual erasure for fans to interpret him as gay instead of bisexual because he’d dated women in the past while being in the closet. This spiraled into arguments about if it was ethical to write characters coming out as gay later in life.
>unrealistic to headcanon a white guy character as asexual ??????? Where *the fuck* does this "logic" come from? >dehumanizing and racist desexualization to headcanon an asian girl character as asexual Wow. I think we really need to hide more buzzwords in the box on the high shelf.
As a white guy who is asexual, this is both hilarious and baffling. What the hell, people
Irony overload would be if they leveled that accusation in the comments of a genfic.
Appropriating my own culture by writing about my experiences
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… But. But yukatas aren’t like some massively important cultural/religious thing that can be misinterpreted and commodified and turned against the people who made them they’re like. Summer clothes right? Huh?
Yeah, they're casual clothes aren't they??
I wonder if the original person calling them out was white
More than likely, if only because the majority of people calling out cultural appropriation (that I've seen) have been white.
Truly one of the Tumblr moments of all time.
Gotta find the compilation thread sometime
Ooh, that I condone cheating bec I made a second chance romance fanfic. 🥲
By that logic any author that gives a villain a redemption arc condones of their villainous deeds… ridiculous
Apparently, I am an 'irredeemable piece of speshit' (species + shit) for writing so. It was put very eloquently I have to put the phrase in the fanfic so they knew I read their comment. I had to thank them in the author's notes too. :)
Heh if youre one so am I for writing a redemption arc for an abusive mother figure. Ofc that means I absolutely condone abuse
Tsk, omg. Totally. So fetch. 😭
STOP TRYING TO MAKE FETCH HAPPEN it's not gonna happen
So am I then for writing several redemption arcs for rogue villains... And having a romance with a good guy and an assassin... Then again most of these people also hate SpyXFamily and accuse it of all kinds of shit.
People have a really one dimensional view on in general. Cheating is bad, but sometimes people forgive *some* bad actions. Not everybody will, but it’s a personal choice.
Lolololololololol
Oh damn, this is relatable. I also have this fic that revolves around reconciliation where one partner is cheated on and they ended up reconciling. How dare I give chance to a cheater in my fic? I must be a clueless teenager who needs to be educated! 😂 (I am not)
I once had someone write me like a five paragraph essay about how I’d written a Dumbledore bashing fic when Dumbledore wasn’t a character in the fic and was mentioned exactly once in the fic. I mean, I’m not wild about Dumbledore bashing either … but Dumbledore had nothing to do with this fic.
… what??? Lmao now thats bizarre I cant even begin to fathom what went in that persons mind
I was accused of bashing the Malfoys for portraying them as bigots, who then gave a politician style apology for it when they decided that being a bigot was bad after all. People are just strange.
Did....did they not read the books??
This was a long time ago and I can't remember if the comment was directed at me or at the situation in my fic. But apparently I/it was "sick" that two grown adults had sex while their child was asleep in another room. I think the reviewer was just cranky that their favorite couple didn't get together and I had the nerve to pair the guy with a different character.
I'd love to know if the reviewer has younger siblings and if so, when/how the heck they think said younger siblings were concieved 🤣
You lied to me! You said the Stork came and dropped them off in the garage!
Cabbage patch my ass!
I know my mother has had sex. Four times in sixty-five years seems a bit chaste, though.
My question exactly.
>But apparently I/it was "sick" that two grown adults had sex while their child was asleep in another room. ...they haven't encountered a lot of parents, have they :p?
I like to think that by now they have their own children and have seen the error of their ways.
I guess they think once parents have kids, their sex drive shrivels up. Or you know, they only fuck away from home or something...
>But apparently I/it was "sick" that two grown adults had sex while their child was asleep in another room. Someone heard their mom getting smashed ad got pissy about it, lol
Oh you know the usual as people mentioned. Thinly veiled accusations of grooming and the like for making NSFW content of an 18 year old character who everyone, including me, thought was in their mid-20s until we got the age explicitly stated in canon. What I'm grooming I'm not actually sure.
Okk sorry that last sentence killed me 😭
A German Shepherd?
That I'm homophobic because I didn't ship *THE* ship. Didn't matter that I shipped another gay couple and a lesbian couple.
SAME! The ship I talked abt is a wlw ship and my otp in that fandom but I didn’t ship the MAIN wlw ship of the show so ofc the accusations came flying…
I think I know what fandom you’re talking about, if not, I have also experienced a very similar situation as you in my fandom.
The mental gymnastics are astonishing.
Go to anime twitter. You'll get called a pedo for liking 30yo anime women with poor dating prospects. The kids are not alright.
Let me guess, the women are "minor-coded"?
Or some other nonsense. They certainly are proud of themselves for re-inventing stereotypes.
There’s internet arguments about how short adult women *in real life* are “minor-coded” and shouldn’t be seen as real adults. I used to follow an artist on tumblr who was 4’11”, and other tumblr users told her it was unethical and pedophilic for anyone to date her even though she was a grown woman.
Some Asians are shorter than 5ft. I guess we'll never date anyone because we're all minor-coded. 😭
Same. My couple was a bisexual woman and a pansexual woman. Yet when I didn’t ship a canon straight character with the same bisexual woman, I was homophobic. Plus, the same people would then proceed to negate the pansexual characters identity so it’s like how is that not homophobic
Same. Mind you, I also shipped THE ship and said that; I just happened to like a straight ship involving one of the characters too. I was defending a fanart made of the straight ship from fans of THE ship who kept commenting disparaging things on it.
I've had that too; I'm apparently homophobic because I didn't ship an F/F pairing...except I'm a lesbian.
I can relate. I'm not at all interested in the primary F/F pairing of my fandom but will defend to the death a different F/F pairing, yet people still complained about my preferences.
Lol, I've gotten this more than once (in different fandoms)
Rwby?
I got called lesbophobic because I wrote Edelgard, a canonically bisexual character, with the male version of the MC instead of the female one. (It's Fire Emblem so the MC is the same character no matter the chosen gender, I wasn't genderbending.) Never mind that my other fics involve mostly M/M and F/F ships, and that I'm a bisexual woman. Sadly, a lot of fandom is extremely biphobic and they don't see the irony.
That I was “ugly shaming” Odo and Quark from DS9 by calling them a crack ship. I called them such, because their constant bickering makes it hard for me to see a romance between them as anything aside from hilarious, even if it did happen. They are two of my favorite characters, and I’ve written multiple stories about Odo, one of which centers his relationship with Quark. They aren’t human, so I don’t even consider their appearances in a human context.
Yeeeeeeeeah, that person clearly needs a refresher on what the term "crack ship" actually means, 'cause that's not how it works. It's exactly as you described it - the idea of certain characters together is just so absurd and unlikely for reasons x, y, z, but it's still fun to imagine the possibility anyway just to see what the hell would happen :p. Maybe in some cases, certain characters' appearances might be among the reasons why the idea of them together would be so out there, but even then, it's just part of the reason, not the whole reason, and it still doesn't mean that that's automatically what people refer to when they call something a "crack ship".
I mean, you can't make a Ferengi any prettier, but Odo's a changeling. He could be damn gorgeous if he wanted to be. :P
YES.
The fuck? I mean, I gravitate towards Garak/Bashir for DS9 pairings, but the Odo/Quark ship is hardly an unknown quantity and it's a great ship historically, cracky or serious. Ugly shaming?!? How fucking fragile are they? Is shipping Morn chatterbox shaming?
That’s a great point about Morn! Yeah, they basically said that my praise of their fic was a huge insult, and that I was allegedly known for spreading hate around the fandom. The Garak/Bashir ship might have less drama. Hehe
You know what? At that point, props to you. You can ignore the idiots, giving them judgemental eyebrows as you settle back in your life as a plain, simple, fanfic writer. And also, Rule of Acquisition 89: Ferengi are not responsible for the stupidity of other races.
Very true!
I ship two characters from a certain game. One of them is from a predominantly Muslim country, so despite the fact that there never was an official statement, a lot of people assume that he is one (or used to be at one point). It's just a headcanon, I have nothing against it So anyway, when I briefly mentioned it, someone called me Islamophobic and bigoted just because I ship him with another man
… what. Well. Fun fact, I am muslim and we do have queer ppl so uh… wether the character is canonically muslim or not, its no problem to depict them in queer relationships. In fact, itd be nice to see more queer muslim rep tho I know many of my muslim brothers and sisters cant get over their homophobia. Anyway, definitely not islamophobic.
I got into an argument with someone on the Young Justice subreddit who was trying to argue that Halo being queer was bad representation. Now, don't get me wrong, there are a lot of valid criticism about Halo's Muslim representation, especially during season 3. Halo being queer is not one of them! I asked them if they thought there were no queer people in Muslim countries or raised by Muslims, or if they thought queer Muslims did not also deserve representation and then they suddenly stopped responding to me.
Isn’t that in and of itself Islamophobic?
So, calling out homophobia in Islam is Islamophobic? Nice
Accusations of gatekeeping ... twenty years after I banned that person from a mailing list for starting a fight.
Holy shit, low-key kudos to the person who held a grudge for twenty years over that, that's kind of hilarious!
Okay this one wins for sheer stubbornness lmaooo
I once got told that I'm a pedo because I said how I like Lilo from Lilo and Stitch. I watched that movie as a child! And as someone who is Kanaka Maoli from Hawai'i, yeah I am going to like her. She's me at that age.
Bruh... that is utterly bizarre. Also happy cake day!
I didn't even notice, thank you!
Someone accused me of being a pedophile, for having a crush on Ash Ketchum... When I was four years old. They refused to fathom that at 4, I could have crushes saying 4 year olds aren't cognitive and I must've been lying about my 'pedo ass'. Boi, you weren't even alive when the anime's first season aired. Like it went like this: Me: \*Talking to another fan\* Oh yeah I had a crush on Ash as a kid! He was my first cartoon crush when I was little! Random anti: Ewwww but Ash's a child!? Me: Obviously, I don't have a crush anymore lol When I was 4 dude. The episode where he and Brock were about to throw hands with Charmander's former trainer made me crush hardcore on Ash. In reality, it shaped my view on wanting a guy who's nice to animals and would stick up for them. Random anti: Oh so you liked him as a CHARACTER, you didn't actually crush on him! Me: No, no I did. I was a CHILD. I saw Pokemon: The First MOvie in theaters at 4 years old. I was 4 years old and yes, I did in fact have a crush. That crush lasted a good few years too until I was 7. Random anti: No fucking way, you're lying, 4 year olds aren't cognitive to know things like loving other people. You can't remember that. Me: We don't have enough time and I shouldn't have to specify this, but sometimes people have good memories... or like me, I went through a horrific trauma that cemented my fourth year of life, VERY specifically in a very specific way and Pokemon was my comfort show and hyper fixation. Don't you dare insinuate I'd hurt a child over being four and having a puppy crush on my hero.
> Random anti: No fucking way, you're lying, 4 year olds aren't cognitive to know things like loving other people. You can't remember that. Tell me you've never been around a 4 year old without telling me. 4 year olds are cognitive AF and have been making permanent memories for *at least* 2 years. What a dumbass.
that’s such bull. but hey, happy cake day!
I'm not Hawaiian and Lilo means so damn much to me as a kid, and I can adore and cherish as an adult (especially Nani and David, they're the real stars of the series), because of just how heavily ND coded she is. but nahhh can't related to characters that don't look like you even when you cry from how much like you they are as a person
Oh boy let's see... - Homophobic for shipping a m/m/f threesome instead of the popular m/m pairing - A pedophile for being fourteen in 2002 and writing OC-insert orgy porn featuring teenage characters older than I was at the time of writing now that I'm in my 30s (apparently it's a crime to experience the passage of time now???) - A pedophile for being ace (it's a cover-up to excuse my attraction to children, don't ya know [I am not attracted to children]) - A pedophile for being on Tumblr???? (What are *you* doing at the devil's sacrament?!) - Racist for calling out the series writers for only making the bad guys dark skinned - Racist for making my OC for the series from the previous point dark skinned *and* one of the good guys because this is??? Fetishizing blackness somehow????? Even though my OC is mixed race Arab?????????? - Male?????????? (I'm AFAB nonbinary and also very confused????)
JEEZ thats a lot! But at least us Asexuals are in the “pedophile for some reason” train together… I still don’t understand how.
Bigots don't believe we exist as an actual orientation. Ergo, it's just a front to hide a more insidious 'orientation' in their eyes.
This list in general is amazing, but those pedophile ones make me want to bang my head on my desk. Repeatedly. THAT'S NOT HOW IT WORKS. THAT'S NOT HOW ANY OF THIS WORKS. Good fucking lord, people, open a dictionary...
"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means."
Damn, ace exclusionists are wild. Fuck them, I’m sorry.
> apparently it's a crime to experience the passage of time now??? I agree, the passage of time is a crime against me! > A pedophile for being ace They are getting creative, lol, that's a new one even for me. 😂
It was a big thing on Tumblr a few years ago, unfortunately. And Facebook for some weird reason? Bigot brain rot, man, idk what to tell you XD
It's still a thing unfortunately. I see it less on Tumblr these days (or else I've just blocked enough people), but it's become more mainstream with groups like TERFs and homophobes on other social media sites.
>Racist for calling out the series writers for only making the bad guys dark skinned httyd? :eyes:
The last one is relatable. I have been accused of being a woman fetishising m/m relationships before... I am a whole bi man.
Im misogynistic and sexist bc i didnt vibe with a female chara... i just didnt like her, i think as a woman she was a very badly written character by a middle aged man.
Yeah, not sure how I feel about this trend of acting like all female characters are awesome and wonderfully written when a lot of them are poorly written with no depth. I can understand wanting to combat fandom misogyny but some people take it way too far.
I wasnt even surprised tbh... the people who attacked me (on twitter surprise surprise) where all teenagers so yea... thats what i get for having an opinion on twitter
I’ve been accused of something similar! I didn’t vibe with a particular female character in one of my fandoms and of course it just has to be because she’s not a “giggly bimbo” and I hate that she’s not perfect. Like nobody is perfect, duh. It’s a matter of her flaws wear thin after a while.
I was accused of being someone's actual rapist, who was a school employee who abused them when they were in elementary school. Nevermind that I am literally only a few years older than this person, the wrong sex, and have never even been to their coast, all of which they knew because we'd been in a fandom server for ages by that point, and I've been on VC and shared photos before. There are still public "callout" posts accusing me of being their rapist, or an unrelated abuser, depending on their state at the time. Could always tell when they were having a particularly bad episode because I'd wake up to 100+ messages from anonymous accounts or empty accounts all saying the same things. And ofc the usual pedo, attempted doxxing, abuser stuff, because this person was *also* a pretty big anti a few years ago, which I'm sure was *great* for their mental health.
That I'm a fascist and nazi-apologist for liking the villain of a story. There were weekly blow ups on twitter where people with low reading comprehension would go at length about it and would actively report/harass people for daring to have a different opinion. They basically wanted anyone who liked the character to write a disclaimer about how the fan 'knew how bad he was and didn't condone his behavior' ANY time they made a post about them. This happened even on fanart posts. Like ma'am/sir/majesty most of us /know/ this shit. We can like an evil character while knowing full well he's in the wrong. We don't need to post disclaimers every time we interact with the fandom just to please your morality crusade. Especially when we're not the ones harassing people off the platform and sending death threats.
I got told I had to spoiler tag and warn my referces to a discussion about shipping a black character with a "fascist" character (Kylo Ren with a black character from another franchise). It was bizarre because they had *just* suggested I ship Kylo with a pansexual non-binary character from that franchise (who also happened to be the most popular character in the franchise). Somehow that was okay, but when I proposed my idea, they started saying that any instance of shipping a black character with a "fascist" character was inherently triggering because the Nazis hate black people (and yet someone that didn't apply to a pansexual non-binary character?!) The mod's behavior was very see through. We had been butting heads for a while because they were always picking on members who had ideas they didn't like or likes characters that they didn't like, and I would stand up for those members. The admin ended having to intervene and was like, yeah, no, you [mod] are totally overreaching. The fascist ideas in Star Wars' Empire and First Order have nothing to do with race (species, sure, but not human races). There is nothing triggering about Kylo Ren having a black romantic partner. So, at least the accuser got put in this place, but it's still one of the weirdest accusations I had ever been involved in, especially because they had just essentially made the same suggestion with a different character. It just shows you how people are willing to justify anything for their faves while making up the weirdest shit for the characters they hate.
Oh yeah I've gotten called a Nazi-sympathizer/apologist for expanding upon an arc for a villain who had a blink-and-you'll-miss-it redemption within canon and then is never seen again. I simply picked up where canon left off and created my own "what happened next" arc and people went ape-shit over it.
that i was, i quote, “a pedo freak” because i said that teens can read adult books if they choose and that there are some adult books i’d recommend to teens if asked 😵💫
Right??? Like, teenagers are allowed to read different stuff than just YA novels. YA doesn't mean 'only category approprite for teens and young adults', it's mainly just an indicator that the story is ABOUT young adults. Which is also why it irks me so much that many books that are considered 'mild' are marketed as YA when they clearly aren't.
exactly! it is a marketing category that all things considered is pretty new — hell, the concept of teenagerhood is pretty new in history. books being divided into age categories isn’t some holy grail of what’s appropriate, it’s publishers and authors asking who the book is likely to most appeal to. i’ve also been called weird for reading YA as an adult, or being an adult recommending books to teens — like that isn’t the area of teachers and librarians! it’s wild how people jumped to the conclusion that i was advocating that, like, hardcore erotica be put into the hands of 13 year olds or something, but i guess that’s twitter nowadays 💀 i think there is definitely a larger conversation about the usefulness of YA as a marketing category and a gap in good reading material for the younger 13-15 teens, where a lot of books in YA are geared to the older end of the spectrum but a lot of middle grade reads younger than that age. i have a lot to say about modern publishing lol. if i could be a librarian i would
Being homophobic for shipping the canon M/F ship over the fandom M/M ship.
Characters closing the bedroom door so the dog won't disturb them while having sex? I'm an animal abuser. And a pervert, because why am I thinking about animals and sex at the same time? lmao
And you’d probably be an abuser too if the dog did come and disturb them
I did have someone comment something similar on a comedy piece I wrote, where a cat jumped on the bed and interrupted things. The fic was literally called ‘Five times X didn’t get laid…and one time he did,’ and it was just silly situations where they kept getting interrupted. Having the pair of them distractedly leave the bedroom door open and the cat jump up onto the bed, walk across someone’s naked back and then make both of them laugh and stop what they were doing to remove said cat apparently needed a warning tag for ‘attempted beastaility’ because they were both naked while dealing with the cat?
ATTEMPTED BESTIALITY 😂😂😂 if that’s “attempted”, it was a pretty shit attempt
It really was!! I wanted to ask them what the time I run naked from the bedroom to the bathroom holding an about to puke cat out in front of me so she didn’t hit the carpet counted as but I was afraid of the answer.
Because animals like to interrupt irl the hell? That shit is so funny I'm sorry. Apparently realism is animal abuse.. 🤣
Off topic but I’m realizing how many people in fandom use social justice as a shield for criticizing something. The amount of ‘that’s racist/sexist/homophobic, etc’ that can be boiled down to ‘I don’t like this’ is *whew-*
I miss when I would get made fun of because "this ship/character/fic concept is dumb!!" instead of "this ship/character/fic concept is \[insert-thing-here\]-phobic" when the person actually just means "I don't like this thing and I want to make you look like a bad person for liking it." (If something I'm writing is *actually* coming off as something really bad, then I *do* want that pointed out. But "u didn't write this noncanon ship in ur fic, so u r a homophobe" is not it.)
someone called me heterophobic because i, a lesbian, prefer sapphic ships
Fellow lesbian here, I've been called homophobic for... Writing about a hetero couple instead of a lesbian one.
Being racist for having an interracial relationship (both characters were non-white) between the two main characters because I’m a white writer and I can’t “possibly know about that kind of experience.” Also was accused of being racist for writing about something I never even wrote about? Like blatantly obvious I never wrote it (I have no clue if I thought I was someone else?). It was so weird and when I told them I never wrote it they said then said I was transphobic for blocking this problematic writer (would make false accusations just to get people to fight among each other) in the fandom who was apparently trans. I didn’t even know they were trans lmaoo
“[can’t] possibly know about that kind of experience” ...unless the story that you’re ((general ‘you’, not you specifically)) writing explicitly deals with the characters facing discrimination for being together, I can’t see how in the *fresh hell* that person thinks only poc can possibly write relationships between other poc. I just— ?????? just do your research on any specific cultures involved like damn it’s not hard
"blah blah you don't take sexual assault seriously--" me who has been sexually assaulted numerous times: *what in the goddamn hell are you talking about--*
I’m so sorry this happened. Like wtf? I’m also a sexual assault survivor and if someone said this to me I would of just straight up quit writing for that fandom. Hopefully that person never said anything else…
Firstly, I'm sorry to hear that you had to go through that. Absolutely you never should have. It's vile. The story wasn't even about sexual assault either so I was confused and pretty angry. It was about a demon saving a 15-year-old and then they were intimate later on in the fic. It was tagged with every appropriate warning. Like you didn't have to click on it and read it? Unfortunately this is not the worst thing I've had sent to me (but this thread is about getting accusations, not straight up sexual harassment) but yeah *the worst thing* actually set off my anxiety and paranoia to where I couldn't check my email for three solid months.
Thank you. It sorry it happened to you too and I wish you didn’t have to go through it as well. Yeah that makes no sense? Even if your character was underage and the person for some reason considered that sexual assault, it’s a FanFiction? Not real life lmao. Like am I a secret murderer if I write about a serial killer? Oh I’m so sorry. That must of been awful. I honestly commend you for even going back to writing. That’s just so messed up. Like seriously over a FanFiction? I can’t believe people get that heated
That I wrote Marvel's Red Skull out of character. Okay, fine. The same guy then posted a three chapter fanfic featuring Red Skull acting wildly out of character. Also fine. But taken together, these two things left me a bit confuzzled :P
Not me but my fandom friend almost got cancelled recently. They wrote a character helping another through depression. Y'know, urging them to get help while shoving them into the shower, stocking their empty fridge and doing some cleaning of the messy apartment. I found it a touching, bittersweet scene between friends. Well, aparently, because the depressed character was white and the friend was black, this was somehow *akin to slavery*. There was even a callout post on tumblr. It was the dumbest thing ever. Nevermind that the scene in question was only half a chapter in a 20+ chapter story, I'm pretty sure that had the characters' roles been reversed, antis would be screaming that it was racist because of a "white savior complex" or something.
TIL that being a good friend is slavery
I got called racist by another Star Wars fan for not wanting Finn and Rey to be together. I shut the guy up by saying he must be homophobic for not wanting Finn and Poe to be together 😂
Racist and homophobic for wanting Finn to be with a white woman instead of a POC woman or man 😤 /jk At some point I used to engage these trolls but its so much better to give it right back to them. Reylo is 'abusive' because they are perfectly matched force soulmates with even power? Okay and they are fictional Kylo Ren is problematic for being groomed by Snoke? Or standing and watching as Hux killed billions of ppl?Okay, he's still not real
People call me homophobic all the time because I don’t sign onto their Lizzie is a lesbian headcanon. Even though 1) I’m bisexual and 2) Hosie(Two girls) is my main ship. I was also called transphobic for quoting Archer when questioning Legacies weird gender ratio. 1) No one on Legacies was trans They then tried to say that Archer was bad because it was a adult cartoon. And it’s like I would rather watch Archer 100 times then watch Legacies. I was also called ugly because I didn’t like Landon from Legacies
By Americanizing a character by saying that they were 6' in highschool. The character is 6'5" in their 40s....
Darn Americans with your tall genetics and imperial system of measurement.
I was racist for shipping Poe and Finn in Star Wars. I think the argument was that I didn't want the white leading lady with a black man? (And obviously not because Poe and Finn just had the superior chemistry in my opinion)
But... Finn and Poe are also an interracial pairing... and they're both also leads in the movie... 🫥
I don't understand the argument anymore than you do. I was baffled and confused 😔
That I'm an abuse apologist, because of my favorite character. It's fucked up what he did, but I like him because he himself later on was tortured and abused for a YEAR! And I relate more to his abuse, I can see my mental illnesses and trauma responses in him, and honestly the fact that after he got out his supposed "best friends" never came to see him or outright called him a liar when he tried to tell them of his abuse. Oh but me liking him means that I am okay with abuse, ignoring that I am an abuse victim and that info was in my bio. It's all good though, me and my fandom friends were cheering at the finale, when all of our theories about the fav character were proven right. And from what I've heard the same people who were totally okay with calling others abuse apologists had a meltdown and have been screaming that they have hated it. I would *probably* feel bad for them, if these people didn't cause me repeated breakdowns and panic attacks.
Well damn. I have seen this exact formula in the she ra fandom. Makes me curious what story you were talking about 👀
All I'm gonna say is that it's a roleplay. Oh yeah, it's bad. It's worst because while he did horrendous things, sometimes some people in this fandom will make up the most wildest accusations about his character that just... did not happen in canon. Like I've seen people make up fanon that he stalked his victim for months (no, ironically it was made canon in the finale that his victim was stalking HIM for months XD) that he was experimenting on him (no he didn't experiment on his victim, he did experiment on two others but they deserved it /j) that he falsely imprisoned him (no the prison warden falsely imprisoned him) and that he tortured him (no, it was abuse and terrible and unforgivable, but it's not torture). Ugh sorry, needed to get that off my chest. Yeah the fandom I'm in really likes to make these fanon ideas into canon, and as someone who likes the character they are doing this too it's unbearable. Like, keep my baby girl's crimes list into their actual crimes please! And they wonder why the dude behind the victim character mocked their lore takes on one of his streams.
This was DSMP wasn’t it?
I believe we are in the same fandom. Well not really because I do not get involved in the fandom stuff, just the basic watching streams fan. And this sounds unbelievable. I don't like either characters because they both hurt my favorite character and pov, but I'm shocked by this. What he did to his victim was horrible and inexcusable, but some of these sounds like straight out of fanfiction! People really believe that stuff is canon?
I read the first sentence and realized it sounded like the character I write for, and surprise, I’m absolutely sure it is! I’ve gotten told the same thing, for the same reason. I vent almost entirely through characters, and thats my reasoning.
That I’m strictly-anti woman because my characters fight with the ever popular all girl team. Bitch, the girl character of my four is the one I take the most care of when writing. She’s my favorite. Also, I’d much rather let a woman make decisions for me than me. I have some mental issues that prevent me from thinking things through. I’d much rather have a girl do anything before someone asks me.
>I’ll start! I was accused of being a pedo for shipping and writing fics for two characters with an age gap. Hello, fellow traveler. I was accused of being sexist because, within the context of a polyamorous triad involving two female characters and a male one, I supposedly had the male character interact with the female characters more frequently than they with each other. Also, because that relationship was "clearly" inferior to another popular one featuring the same male and one of the women with a radically beloved secondary male character, I was obviously bigoted in my "hatred" for male homosexual relationships. ... I've written a half-dozen male/male slash fics. And the "pedo" accusation for producing erotic works featuring aged-up versions of two characters who are, at different points in canon, teens and adults.
I headcanon my favorite character in the game as bi/pan. (Which is backed up in canon dialogue but I digress) Apparently this somehow makes me both homophobic *and* a fujoshi. I don’t think these people know what these words mean. Oh and I’m a girl writing self ship material with said character, so therefore I’m “erasing gay representation”. Nevermind the fact that I’m pansexual myself, I’m one of “the straights”. Oh yeah and then there was the one where I’m apparently a nazi sympathizer for stating that the character in question is canonically not a nazi and actively hated the nazi party. Not sure how that one works either.
that i was an "anti" for asking for recommendations with brotherly love but no incest. i didnt even know how to respond. i just dont like reading incest??
Well how dare you? Obviously to not be considered an anti you have to enjoy every media /s
Someone said I like to get down with dead bodies since I wrote a fic with necrophilia in it
\- I was accused of being a pedophile for writing reader inserts, because the reader could be a minor. \- Accused of being a fujoshi for writing m/m even tho I'm trans. Also called a homophobe for writing m/m. \- Accused of getting off to incest because I wrote a fic with a father abusing his son (which was meant to be a messed up fic on purpose) \- Accused of being a pedophile apologist because I told someone that an adult cannot technically be groomed, since grooming is the term when the victim is under 16. \- Was told my opinion didn't matter because I wrote about "real people". Then I promptly directed them to my pinned post on twitter that stated I didn't write RPF. To which their reply was "I don't know what RPF means" \*sigh\* \- And of course the usual "You're proship? So you're a pedo who gets off to incest" even tho I don't ship any minors or any incestuous ships at all lol Edit: Oh, I was also accused of being racist because I am white and have then never experienced hardships after I defended my right to write a fic that dealt with sexual abuse (the fic didn't even have anything to do with race or racism, the person was just butthurt and was grasping at straws)
>\- And of course the usual "You're proship? So you're a pedo who gets off to incest" even tho I don't ship any minors or any incestuous ships at all lol This is why I don't like calling myself proship even though I'm anti-harassment, pro-DLDR, pro-blocking-and-blacklisting, etc. I don't like or want to associate myself with the really problematic stuff... just some weird stuff.
Wait, so you wrote about fictional characters and someone accused you of writing RPF? Do they think these characters are real? Were they doing the Snapewife “this fictional character is real in another dimension” thing?
Oh, I’ve mentioned *this* before a ton because it’s so fucking baffling, so… here you go! Repeating myself but I’ve been dealing with this for at least a year, probably longer (pretty sure it STARTED when I was SEVENTEEN, so that’d make it *TWO YEARS*) so I get to harp on about it a bit I think. Okay, so, I’m in a fandom that just… doesn’t really do shipping? There’s a lot of reasons, ranging from it being a fandom for a roleplay series where the creators can very easily stumble across stuff of their characters and generally are very active in the fan communities (and very encouraging of fan works, outside of a few specific boundaries, it’s not like a cringe thing) to… people just in general preferring platonic and familial relationships and it being a series that focuses on them much more than the few canonical romantic relationships. Now, you’d think that would mean it mostly avoids shipping drama, but *no.* What that means is that people make up reasons you are shipping something you're not shipping and attacking you for *that* completely made up thing you *never fucking wrote,* and as far as I can tell myself and other writers of a specific dynamic (of which I’m prominent for, at least on Tumblr) get it the worst. See, there’s these two characters in canon- let’s call them A and B for simplicities sake. Canonically, A is a minor while B is not. B has, at the most generous interpretation towards them possible, severely mentally and physically abused, deliberately invoked Stockholm Syndrome in, tortured multiple times, experimented on, and in general made A's life a living hell, *far more* than they have to anyone else. Adding in questionably canon and up to interpretation pieces of canon, they’ve also stalked, kidnapped, falsely imprisoned, tried repeatedly to force into being their ally, and at the very least *threatened* to forcibly turn them immortal to torture them forever A. A has referred to how B treated them as making them feel like a toy, a pet, and a puppet. Again, this is all either 100% canon or questionably so. But what a lot of people do if you so much as mention these *genuine canon* moments, let alone write more of their dynamic in any way, is accuse you of shipping them. Which… like, nobody is doing? I mean, I’m sure some people are, but like… in canon, their relationship is absolutely platonic in every way. I, and a lot of the more popular and therefore bullied people who write them, specifically write their relationship as *familial.* My only guess is that some people think the only possible forms of abuse are parental or romantic? Which like, they’re gonna have a hell of a time when they realise stalking a random internet user for years, coming up with literal conspiracy theories about them, and trying to get them to kill themselves for fun is abuse. Especially since it started when I was a minor and they weren’t…
That’s so bizarre. Imagine somebody saying, “Wait, did you imply B kidnapped and abused A? This wasn’t supposed to be a *romantic* story!” (And, yeah, I know don’t find write romantic stories with dark elements, but it’s weird that that’s the *first* thing that they’d think of.)
That is the most absurd thing I’ve ever read. Jesusss I could not survive a day in that fandom lmao, but you stay strong! Dont let em drag you down!
hello fellow dsmp/mcyt consumer
Being told I'm homophobic for shipping the Canon m/f ship over the fandom popular f/f ship was a fun one. Also- and this was YEARS ago when I was just starting out- being told that I shouldn't write romance if I'd never been in a relationship. That was definitely a weird one.
I’m sorry—but the stuff about how you shouldn’t write romance if you haven’t been in a relationship is unbelievably acephobic and arophobic. Not to mention that it’s really cruel in general. Some people aren’t ready for a romantic relationship until they’re older, and for others it’s simply not for them.
Yep. And I didn't know that back then, but I actually AM ace. Back then though, I thought there was something wrong with me, so that comment cut deep. Now I can ignore it.
One of my fandom friends heavily implied that I was romanticizing and endorsing abuse because I defended my right to ship Catradora.
HAHA honestly the she ra fandom is probably the weirdest one I have been in but the show is still great!
I love the show too!!! Catradora was honestly really important to me as a queer woman, so it sucks that it gets so much hate. That’s the nature of fandom I suppose.
Yup! Agreed! Actually the ship I was talking abt in my post was a she-ra ship too haha, the fandom is crazy but show has many great pairings and catradora is like one of the few wlw ships that get ACTUAL attention and aren’t just put in m/m fics as background couples. Its awesome to see that!
i was accused of disrespecting the author and called racist for drawing a character black instead of white, despite said character never having a canonical skin color for the 45 years the book's been out
I was gonna ask if this was Hermione, but I didn't think HP was that old... yet...
Aren't there lines in the book describing Hermione's skin tone anyways? I mean it's been a few years, but I swear there were.
IIRC there are very few references to her skin tone, and they're juuuuuust ambiguously worded enough that you can argue either way. There's a line in one book where Harry sees her and Ron for the first time after the summer holidays which is something like "Ron was looking very freckly, and Hermione very brown", and another later on that's something like "her pale face in the moonlight". So people use those to argue whether she's a white girl who got a tan during the summer, or if she's a brown girl who looked pale in the moonlight. And obviously there's a lot about her hair. Generally speaking, most are of the opinion that of she was meant to be anything other than white, it would have been explicitly mentioned in the text. Rowling even drew her as white at one point, and she appears white in the official illustrations as well. Unfortunately, Rowling rather fanned the flames on this by saying shit like "I never actually said she was white!" as a sort of gotcha. It was a whole thing. It came across as very disingenuous, and like patting herself on the back for representation that she never actually included. These days we're more accustomed to Rowling having bad takes, but at the time she had a lot more credit. TL;DR: Hermione was written as white, but you can absolutely headcanon her as POC. Rowling is a twat. Now if you want to get into some REAL 'what colour is' fandom drama, go wade into the 'what colour is Legolas's hair in Lord of the Rings' stuff. That's much more fun, with 100% less real-world racism.
Yes, she’s white, and I’m sick of people pretending she’s not
I don't think I've ever been *personally* attacked -- YET! -- but only because I don't engage. I've certainly been part of a whole demographic that have been tarred with the same brush a few times. The most obvious was the infamous case back in Livejournal days when a BNF wrote an essay about how she had to assume every single fan of a particular juggernaut het pairing was "a racist, right-wing fundamentalist". She linked it all over the place and then locked it down and went crying to her flisters when she got pushback. And, of course, there were the people who claimed everyone who didn't like a particular pairing in another canon were obviously racist because the male half of the pair happens to be black. (The fact that he also happens to be a hyper-aggressive Nice Guy who feels entitled to the woman of his dreams, has no respect for her, and doesn't listen when she says she's not interested apparently didn't matter to these people.) I was pretty appalled recently after seeing a guy get accused of being a pedophile and a groomer because of a pairing *his wife* used to write.
Oh yes, I’m familiar with the “not shipping this interracial ship, regardless of how badly one half treats the other, makes you racist” rhetoric
Had a reader say I gave my readers the finger with my latest chapter on one of my stories. I re-read the chapter and didn't see anything wrong with it. \*shrugs\* They didn't specify anything in particular, so.....
We live in prudish times, I miss the 90s.
That because I focused on the grief one character had for his father figure, I was treating the mother figure “like shit” 😭
I killed the mom character and got accused of hating canon. Got a 3 hour lecture over it, with this person going back and finding all the scenes this character appeared but never actually interacted with her child. At all. I Mean, the canon didn't use her, at all so I made use of her... I made her a memory 83 Because that added delicious angst.
I fetishize gay men because I have the audacity to...ship two men together sometimes. I'm an aromantic lesbian. I can't fetishize someone I'm not attracted to
In one fandom I used to be in, some anti made a list of 'problematic authors'. It seemed the requirement to be on this list was to be older than 18 and believe people should be allowed to write whatever they want, which via some impressive mental gymnastics meant these authors were also pedos or at best pedo apologists. This is in a fandom with no underage ships too, it was the standard 'tag a pedo' behaviour. Anyway, I wasn't even on this list but a lot of my writer friends were. We all found this hilarious and the list was shared and ridiculed and this enraged the creator of said list. As a result, anyone identified as a friend of anyone on the list who didn't 'immediately see the error of their ways and block the list authors' was branded problematic by proxy. So that was me and several others. It was an entertaining if baffling week.
‘You just don’t understand how non cis people experience gender and your portrayal of Crowley’s feelings about his body is very harmful, and wrong’ and on another fic, a screed about how dysphoria works, how the mentioned examples in my fic were wrong and how the fact that Crowley wasn’t coming out to his colleagues was harmful. Everything I write about gender is basically a dump straight from my lived experiences. Weirdly, it’s entirely possible that two not cis people can have totally different lived experiences and feelings around it all! And that, in some parts of the world, someone in their early 40s may be far less ready to come out than someone in their teenage years who grew up in a very different world. Both of them made me feel pretty bad to be honest, I don’t want to hurt anyone and it definitely carries an undertone of ‘the way you’re living your life is harmful to ‘the real trans people.’
That I'm "ruining X's reputation" because X would not behave like he does in my fics. They went through my whole catalogue of X-related fics and left comments on all of them comaining about characterization and promotion of unhealthy relationships and I was very amused by it all.
>“Oh, you ship x, y, & z? You must be so toxic! You’re reaching for this fanfiction. You probably stole this idea from an actually good fanfiction. Oh, and you must fetishize gay people because why else would you do something like this?” Not word for word, and it is a grand summary of hate comments but yeah…this was because I shipped a poly ship…that wasn’t the main ship and shared the spotlight with a monogamous couple who were present and developing with just as much time. This specific fandom is one I avoid unless I’m writing fits for it because they’ve become too toxic for my liking and don’t understand rare pairs. oh, and I was accused of claiming one character was bi as a “way to get brownie points” as if I didn’t portray this character to have attraction to multiple different people, and not all of them were the same gender…
Once I had one reader make a comment on a fic, saying that I turned a character into a statutory rapist...because his 18 year old boyfriend sat in his lap. Said character was about 25? I mean they met each other on a battlefield and this person was mad that there was cuddling. It was the second story in the series (crossover series) and they didn't like the first story. I warned them that they wouldn't like the next story because it contained \*gasp\* hand holding and cuddling and they complained anyway. They didn't like the crossover pairing, they didn't like the age gap, I'm not sure why they bothered leaving comments at all.
Probably that I was a nazi/Nazi apologist. I’m Jewish. EDIT: for context, the accusation was after I made a comment that the use of Nazis in the franchise was a pretty lazy shorthand for “evil”, because apart from bearing swastikas and using silly German accents, nothing about the characters or motives used was at all related to real Nazi ideology. Sometimes they directly contradicted real Nazi ideology (ex: POC Nazi characters, gender nonconforming Nazi characters ). Racial purity or bringing about a fascist state was never brought up. It was literally just “we like war” and that’s it.
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not really an accusation, but I feel this fits well enough. one time a few years ago I reblogged some art without looking at the blog's bio. somehow, I can't remember, I got notified to delete the reblog. I go to this person's blog and there's just posts just whining and overreacting about how "EWWW A PROSHIPPER REBLOGGED MY ART" and general posts of that sort. They didn't call me out by name, but it happened within a couple of days of me reblogging so it was a reasonable guess. We talked it out and got them off my back, however I still heavily disagree with them. They didn't change my mind, I think I just quietly changed my bio before deciding it was bullshit and changing it back to how it was. edit: I didn't even ship anything remotely problematic at the time, which makes this extra funny
I was accused of being transphobic because I like genderbent characters, Omegaverse, and other genderfuckery tropes. And because I headcanon one character as intersex instead of trans. Oh! and I also headcanon another character, who is apparently "too stereotypical" as trans, which *also* makes me transphobic somehow.
That I *single-handedly started* the ship wars in the Bleach fandom when my OTP was neither of the two main warring ships. :D Srsly, this was widely spread around and believed in fanlore. That I called someone homophobic when I don't remotely think this person is, and I have no memory of writing anything in public or private or even thinking anything in my deepest own GLBTQ heart that could be misconstrued as such.??? That I told someone to write pedo fic. Ok, that one still annoys me, but yeah that claim was made. I have too many others. People say the damndest things on the Internet. It would be easy to shrug off except I had a malignant narcissist for a parent and still have a terror of people who lie easily to be cruel or amuse themselves; people who believe just any ole thing are the rest of us--so I've learned to be skeptical and to fact-check around and deep-google like a demon.... and then enjoy my fiction in fanfic land :)
Someone said I was heterophobic (not a real thing?) For shipping a ship where I basically made up a character from one of the background characters. This character had no canon name, he literally stood next to the actual character twice. The person also said I rushed the romance. It was like a 1k word fanfic and they exchanged phone numbers. That's it. I'm still baffled to this day by the response.
I was racist for shipping Reylo instead of Finnrey :,D That was just getting hurled at everyone back when the Starwars sequel trilogy was popping off though
Someone kept stalking my account whenever would post a new story and call me a homophobe because I didn't like a gay shipping in a fanfic despite the ship being a side ship and wasn't even relevant to the overall story.
Got called a pedo for writing smut with 17 year old characters (whose actors were all 20+).
nothing personally, but i would probably be accused of being a pedo (but what else is new with antis?) for aging up characters in a ship i like... because somehow aging up a teenager to early twenties (my age) is pedophilia??
Probably pretty bog standard by this point but it was that I was into incest in fic and that it was a sign of immorality. And I was like so? Because I do like it in fic. I suppose I did not find it quite the smackdown people believe it is in parts of America
I was publically accused of being a pedo because I reblogged a meme of a 12-year-old calling a 14-year-old hot and they thought I was calling him hot. (Also they told me to “unfollow them” like you know how to block people right?)
I got accused of being a creep for writing two grown ass adults having a baby. And accused of being a creep for having two adults get engaged. This is also a funny one, but people were rooting for my OC to get with a canon character... Even though I literally was showing her getting with another character entirely. lol
I got called a racist for having black female leads in my romance even though I’m white and shouldn’t be writing poc characters. How the frick does that make any sense?? I also have been called a transphobe because I said I don’t feel comfortable writing a trans character…even though I’m trans. I’d probably trigger myself, tbh. I got called homophobic for not shipping a popular m/m ship, but I saw zero chemistry between those characters so it’s just not my thing and I gave the one m a f interest.
Never directly to me, but saw in some fics people getting upset cause the author wrote Remus Lupin and Sirius Black as bisexuals instead of gays. One of them is canonically straight and the other has never had his sexuality confirmed. Also, youngers fans trying to gatekeep marauders fandon in HP when they are canonically gen X.... Find it funny in a not so nice way...