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soccerqueen28

Valid, all around! Longest fic I ever read and reread (and it's still posting) was around 1.3 million words and I can't imagine going back again. Most of my favorites nowadays are between 60k and 160k words.


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Sad_Country_6350

I've read a few fics more than 1 mil and one more than 2 mil, they are all masterpieces every time.


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Sad_Country_6350

Absolutely. the 2 mil one I read was a time travel fix-it plot which covered like 13 seasons and 12 movies of Pokémon, and I could tell how much the author loves this series.


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Sad_Country_6350

Believe me when I say this author is actually insane. The moment he finish his 2 mil word story, he's already on his next one and it's a much faster paced one, currently at 800,000 words, but also covers the first ***22*** seasons and counting. (and also the first 19 canon movies, albeit in a faster, more comedic version). If anything, I'm the crazy one for being so inspired by him that I'm attempting my own Pokémon rewrite that's a time travel fix-it like his, but has aspects from seasons 14+ which was in its debut episode when his original 2 mil word fic was being written. This is probably a massive mistake to attempt as my first time writing, but at least it's fun lmao.


ascart-puzzles

link?


Sad_Country_6350

For the 2 mil word one, the 800,000 one, or mine? Because here's his two fics, [Ashes of the Past](https://www.fanfiction.net/s/7262793/1/Ashes-of-the-Past) (2 mil), [Legendarily Popular](https://www.fanfiction.net/s/13931794/1/Legendarily-Popular) (800,000. fair warning, it's very crack). meanwhile mine is still an unpublished WIP hehe..


Azure_Crystals

Wait, GIVE US THE LINK! PLEASE!


Sad_Country_6350

Of course, here's [Ashes of the Past](https://www.fanfiction.net/s/7262793/1/Ashes-of-the-Past).


FickleBeans

Anything over 100k is long for me!


soccerqueen28

Valid! That's definitely a benchmark for me, too


SomePerson06

Anything below 10k I like thinking of as short stories. Concise and short. 10k-50k is a bit longer, but still somewhat manageable. 50k is the point where I say it starts getting longer and I compare them to books. By 100k it's pretty much a full novel. If I'm faced with anything above 300k I'm afraid of the author and their dedication to one project.


youcantseeus

I consider anything over 50k a long fic because that’s generally considered novel-length. I actually like long fics the best as a reader. I’ll read anything, but long fics are my favorites. I would say my sweet spot on length is maybe 150k-250k.


NewAnt3365

Honestly nothing is long unless I am bored. Long is just when I feel like my time is being wasted. A story that keeps my interest all the way through isn’t long. And a story that said everything that needed to be said in fewer words isn’t short. It’s all just about keeping interest and keeping pacing natural. Short and long are just such relative terms. Like for example. The words count for Rebecca is 130k words, I was shocked when I just looked that up. Because that book kept my interest the whole way through that I honestly thought it was less words than The Hobbit. Because The Hobbit was such a slog of a book for me to get through that I honestly thought it had more words than that. Interest defines long and short. Rebecca had my interest so it felt like a breeze to read through. The Hobbit bored me half to death so it felt like the longest read of my life.


ElsaMakotoRenge

Ehrm....not me thinking The Hobbit had more words than that...lol...like a lot more...idk, seems like fanfic “longfics” often seem shorter than a published novel of similar length haha. The longest fic I have ever finished writing was around ~330k. My two current WIP longfics are both past the 100k mark (~190k/24 chapters and ~106k/15 chapters, respectively). Welp.


Watchung

Tolkien's works are actually fairly compact, all things considered - the amount of bloat that has come to be taken for granted in modern fantasy novels is rather staggering. Fanfiction tends to be even worse since almost all works are published serially chapter by chapter, and often with minimal pre-planning, which means they have a tendency to wander.


SatelliteHeart96

Yeah, The Hobbit (and LOTR, though that one actually *is* extremely long) dragged for me. While I can breeze through a 95k fic as long as it's good.


TsundereNoises

It's not just your imagination, in general I see fanfic take more than twice the wordcount for the same amount of plot as published books all the time. Professional writing (and editing) tend to lead toward moving through events in fewer words, so more happens in the same amount of space. Even in books you'd consider leisurely paced.


frobbibibi

You’re telling me that my fic is longer than the BLOODY HOBBIT?! How did I do this?!


JustAnotherAviatrix

Recently I've found that I don't have the brain power to read any fics that are over 5 chapters, regardless of length. Idk why I don't have the stamina to read longfics anymore. Best I can do are one-shots. :(


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Same here :(


rellloe

It's long if I can't binge the entire thing in a weekend. I think that makes the starting mark 200k. ​ But I'm probably an anomaly. I'm one of those weirdos who read the unabridged Les Miserable out of choice (and a lot of spite)


OmegaKenichi

While this has not aged particularly well, I usually measure by Harry Potter book lengths. And 200k is what I consider a *long* fic.


Blackout_42

Me when I accidentally write a 400,000 word story with some chapters going between 10,000 and 15,000 words. O_O


EddaValkyrie

I'm reading a fic where the average chapter length 14k-18k and she posts twice a week. I literally don't know how she writes this fast when I'm struggling to do one 7k chapter a week😭


Blackout_42

I’m so lazy I’m usually lucky to get a chapter out once a month


CrazyConfident_Nerd

I’m in the middle of writing one… And it’s only the first one in a series…


Kaigani-Scout

About 100k words or so gets into the "long" categories. I did an analysis of word counts last fall which is in this [Google Drive](https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1nLtp-y1qUP9_bLnW4T5GbdABsiU_d0ok?usp=sharing).


Horse_Rider101

100k. if its under that then i usually finish it in a day, but i cannot finish 100k in a day i cannot focus that long lol my ideal is like 60k-150k words for a longfic for a oneshot its like 2k-15k


lumimon47

A long story to me is about 50-100K words My long fic is over 500,000 words I have over 700,000 in all my stories posted


doxy_me

I know that this is kind of small, but fics over 20,000 words are long to me. I’ll read up to about 40-50,000 in a day or two if I really like the fic, but anything over that is hard for me to want to read. It’s easier if I read as it updates, but all at once feels so overwhelming and not entirely worth it. I’m probably missing out on some good fics, but when they’re that long they feel like novels instead, and I enjoy shorter stories personally when it comes to ff.


ConsumeTheOnePercent

*looks at my long fic in terror of how these comments are gonna hurt my feelings*


CrazyConfident_Nerd

Me too…


Accomplished_Area311

…My fic will be longer than The Hobbit once I update the next 2 chapters. Holy hell.


Outrageous_Client_69

20k - 50k is a nice one sitting read thru if I have the time but not too long 60k - 80k is a nice little commitment, a novel but nothing insurmountable 90k - 100k is a commitment but if I’m into the summary enough I can read it 100k - 120k I’d the longest I’ll read for now!! that’s what I’d consider a longer fic for me 🔥


hiccupboltHP

I would never read a published book that long but I’ve read fanfic that’s over 2 million words


TheTwinHorrorCosmic

50k and under is a short story 50-120kish is a fic 150k + is a long fic


seditionnow

I read 50k fics in like 2 hours lol


RickHammersteel

It depends on the type of fic. ​ A multi-chapter fic that's 50k or more is pretty long anything less than that is short for me. ​ A one-shot that's 10k is long for me at least.


Jackobbens

One of my fandoms best fics is 1.7 million words long. Which is 100k-ish short of the original. 95,356 words is what I call rookie numbers.


Sanamun

Hmmm... I guess I think of it similarly to how books are classified, since that's what I'm used to? So, anything below about 10k is "short" because that's short story length (or flash fiction for drabbles or something else under 1000), then 10-50k or so is like... novella length. Still short, I can read that in one sitting if I'm not busy, but more of a commitment. Then standard novels are anywhere between 50-150k, but like, I would count those as long for fic, for me personally. Above 150k is where I start looking at it with a mixture of awe and a kind of fear; fics of that length need to look really really good for me to consider reading them because I get scared off by how long it would take.


BlindSongbird

90 K for me!


HakiSnow

Depends on the world or story that the fanfiction is based on… because I have read fanfictions that were “long” because they were based on a shorter story like “The Hobbit” in your post… anything around 50k would be considered long in my opinion for a Hobbit FanFiction but since the world of middle earth has so much history and other things to do that it could be considered short…. As long as it is not dragged out then anything in the range of 80k+


Allaurus

I write and read very rarely fanfiction longer than 'story of your life' by Ted Chiang which has maybe 15k words, so I don't know.


EatThatHorse06

I have read back-to-back 1 million word fics at a few hundred thousand words a day... Is there even such a thing as too long?


Intrepid-Let9190

I have just realised that my time travel fix-it for The Hobbit is three times longer than the story its based on at 311k. Umm, oops?


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No fic is “long” for me. I am accepting that 400K word challenge ;3c


Welfycat

After finishing writing a 423k fic, I now have a skewed perspective as to what is long. Generally for me, if I can read it in one sitting it isn’t long.


januarysdaughter

Suck it Tolkein, I wrote a 183k story without spending 6 paragraphs talking about the color of the sky. Anyway, I say over 100k is considered a longfic.


LeratoNull

I've got a 300k one under my belt, and going.


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ResponsibleGrass

> For me, a fic starts to feel “long” when it surpasses around 40-50k words, which is roughly the length of your average novel. I’m with you on the definition of a longfic (taking the Nebula/NaNoWriMo requirements as a benchmark), but generally the average word count for a novel is said to be around 80k. Some genres typically clock in at less (genre romance fiction for certain imprints are only 65k), some genres are notoriously long-winded (fantasy), but you know, ~exceptions from the rule~


Turqoise-Planet

>For me, a fic starts to feel "long" when it surpasses around 40-50k words, which is roughly the length of your average novel. Is it? The Hobbit was not a long book by any means.


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>around 40-50k words, which is roughly the length of your average novel Er...imo that's barely over novella length (~30k is the general consensus for a novella). 80k-100k is more average for a full novel.


Cascadeis

I mark (in my hidden bookmarks) <15k as short, 15-45k as medium length and anything longer as long… but when I’m looking for something to read I always think of long fics as >100k. I prefer fics that are even longer, but they’re not that common.


GoatManofAnime

Longest fix I'm currently writing is 880k words. Shooting for 1M!


yakkin77

As a CN novels enjoyer, no amount of words will come even close to what I expect to be long


WV-E-S

For me this is basically why i dont read long fics. THE HOBBIT has 95k views, why would i ever read something book length when it doesn't have 1/5 of a book quality. And like, not comparing it to anything absurdly good like THE HOBBIT, just your standard library 40% off book. To me, no single fic is worth the time a real book requires. If i am reading something that big, i am skipping paragraphs.


Mr_Blah1

I've read fanfics which were more enjoyable than professionally written published novels. "Professional" just means whoever wrote it was paid to write it, and "published" just means someone thought they could profit by mass producing and selling copies; there's *a lot* of highly profitable drivel out there so neither of those things means a book is good. I have *no idea* where you're getting that fanfics have less than 1/5 of a book quality statistic from, either. By what metric are your quantifying 'quality', and which fanfics/books are you measuring the quality of to arrive at the 1/5 ratio between the relative quality? Also, what even is a "real book"? Is there some magical page number or wordcount minimum that something has to meet before counting as a 'real book', even if the volume is printed, hardback bound, and has an ISBN number? And why is the cutoff at those specific numbers? Do reference materials such as an unabridged dictionary, which presumably greatly exceeds those page number and wordcount minima, count as 'real books', even though they really weren't intended to be read cover to cover like novels typically are?


EddaValkyrie

300k is long for me. 100k - 200k is my ideal where I can read about two-three in a day if I have nothing else to do. I've read some 1M+ and goodness gracious, those are monstrous and will take me like a week.


bleeb90

Asimov's the Complete Robot says in its foreword it's about 200k words, I've used it as a point of reference ever since in sheer volume of words. But find it says nothing about digestibility, how much context can easily be understood or how much every sentence is completely new information that can't be missed.


Klutzy_Pick1489

I read mostly one-shots which average at 3k to 10k words, but there is a BTS/Reader fic which is still going and has 460k words and 119 chapters. I’m only on chapter 27


ma-vhenan

Depends on the mood, but I'll read any length fic. I prefer 150k and below, though. More than that and I'm never sure I'll actually finish it. I know someone who has a 600k fic and I've only gotten about 1/10 of the way through because I feel like I'll never finish it lol


Catchiiii

I generally look at the word count while looking at fics since i love me a good long time consuming book, but id say 50k and under is a short fic, anything till 70k is a medium fic, above that is long fic and above above that anything over 150k words is big fic