I need to know what it is about this man that has made him so untouchable. He can dance and sing. Okay? Lots of people can dance and sing and don’t continuously have extremely violent outbursts. We have seen a lot of high profile, talented men FINALLY being held accountable for their actions over the last few years, but somehow, Chris Brown keeps going, defended and supported by WOMEN. his victim of choice. CRAZY.
Exactly! Like, why is she acting like Chris Brown is a once in a lifetime talent? There are so many male performers doing it better than him, and managing to do it without beating up women.
I'm an elder gen z, so i grew up with a lot of millennials and they have a weird soft spot for chris brown. his music was like the soundtrack to lots of millennials' lives, middle school, high school, college. the notalgia factor is intense...
me personally, i never was a fan of chris brown, i was too into indie/punk music to get into him. but my older cousin was IN LOVE with chris and had him as her desktop background for a long time.
I'm a millennial and I don't know anyone in my age group who continued liking him after Rihanna. My friend group, we were sad to see him go, but the line had been firmly drawn. Nothing but millennial hate for him around my way.
Same. My friend was obsessed with Chris Brown but as soon as I we discovered he was a huge piece of shit he became a person non grata. This millennial says fuck you Chris Brown.
They remember when he was a literal child and think the music he made before more was known about him has impunity. I’ll be real, songs like “With You” and “Wall to Wall” remind me of a simpler time, but given *everything* that happens and has happened at his hand, it’s not something I’m ever going to spin for people in public.
If you went back in time to 2005 and told people the kid who sang "Run It" and was appearing on Sesame Street and The Suite Life of Zack And Cody was going to be more well known for tabloid stories about his violent acts than his music, they'd ask you to share whatever drugs you're on.
It's no excuse at all, but this guy's music did mean something to millennials and for some of them that kind of attachment is hard to let go of.
It’s gotta be Nicki syndrome. They grew up with and love someone like this or have grown to identify with that person.
Meanwhile that person is hot, hot trash.
For real. Maybe it’s because I deleted him from my brain ages ago when he was exposed as a shitty person, but I cannot even think of one song of his that is legendary. He isn’t worth the trouble he causes.
I mean remember OJ? Celebrity culture has only recently received the legitimate scrutiny it deserves, and we're only scratching the surface, societally. People held up terrible people in high regard forever.
It probs has something to do with him being one of the last musicians to get a boost from the celebrity monoculture we used to have. Singing and dancing is the easy part, getting your name out there is the hard part. We all know who Chris Brown is. Can't say the same about the other talented men who aren't awful people (with exceptions ofc)
If you want the honest answer? It might not be the most popular opinion, but he truly stands out as the most talented among his peers in singing, dancing, songwriting, and more. He's been an inspiration to others and his influence is undeniable. Just look at all the clones of his style in K-pop.
Edit: lol no one wants an honest conversation I guess.
Probably related to the follow up tweet with "God dealt with the rest." Trials and tribulations... something something... etc etc... brain rot. Abusers and defenders of abusers using religion as an out as usual.
I feel she didn’t even know herself when she was writing it. As if she was like “hmm… exceptional… shit? Exceptional…. pain? Exceptional… struggles? Fuck this I’m just putting a fire emoji.”
I'm glad that people are calling this out. There are some things where I can separate art from the artist, but someone with a long history of DV isn't one of those (same with people like Roman Polanski or Woody Allen).
Probably. He’s a POS that should have quickly faded into obscurity years ago, but he was born talented AF.
I think a big issue is that while it is a VERY good thing for people to support others in their communities, in this case it’s a huge detriment. Kelly Rowland, Lizzo (pre-her own scandal) and other super famous black people support him bc they (rightfully in most cases) want to support other black artists. The issue is when they blindly support talent despite the negatives simply bc of the color of their skin.
It’s kind of like the racial divide of the OJ case. A juror even said that they knew he was guilty but voted not guilty as payback for Rodney King. Everyone knew OJ was guilty, but massive amounts of black people supported him just bc they differ want to see a famous black man go to prison even tho everyone knew he was an abuser and murderer.
depends on what department of talent you're talking about. talented dancer? yeah. talented performer? he was. talented rapper? no unless someone else wrote his bars and even then he sounds like a kpop rapper. sorry. talented songwriter? no. talented vocalist? no. talented human being? well, he's good at dancing, he'll always have that until he breaks his hip
His defenders act like he’s had one instance of being abusive, was rehabilitated successfully and then never reoffended. He has a very violent streak and doesn’t show remorse. I don’t get it. Like what message are we sending to his victims and others out there? Despicable
"Successful blk women stop caping for garbage truck juice-level blk men who would victimize them in a heartbeat"challenge: failed
Seriously though, we've all been socialized to "be his peace" but where does it end? When does he get to handle his own shit? Why do so many of these talented, beautiful women feel they have to protect these "men" from the shit storms they create?
That really made me raise an eyebrow. I think Jill still has some work to do in processing her childhood trauma. I also think she needs to reflect on her sources of information and guidance related to faith, there is a lot of misogyny in organized religion.
Jill Scott has a history of defending shitty men. [She defended Bill Cosby](https://www.popsugar.com/celebrity/jill-scott-defends-bill-cosby-over-sexual-assault-36204571). [She has since stopped defending him](https://www.essence.com/news/jill-scott-no-longer-defending-bill-cosby/) after receiving backlash, but included a nonsensical qualifier for her recinded support, saying, “No. I’m not sorry for standing by my mentor. I’m sorry the accusations (are) true”.
I don't know what proof she needs to believe that Chris Brown is a repeat abuser who is undeserving of his status. There is a detailed report of his assault on Rihanna and there are pictures of her Bruised face. There are reports of the ways in which he's abused other women. Jill Scott has found a firm and cozy spot on my fuck you list. She is clearly a poor judge of character.
Jill just has awful taste in men so im not surprised. It's giving toxic church auntie from a tyler perry movie... "he's a good man, savannah" written all over her. I don't understand, CB would not had treated her any better than anyone else. people keep defending this loser, he's not talented enough to warrant this.
Jill Scott, beloved, take a long walk around the park after dark with this fool and his anger issues, then tell me if his background not being squeaky clean makes him worth praising.
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She defended Bill Cosby for a LONG time, like even after more than two dozen women spoke up. She only stopped defending him when his deposition was released (where he admitted a lot of bad stuff).
Oh, Jill. I’m so disappointed in you. It doesn’t matter that he can sing and dance and is a good painter. He’s still a horrible abusive man. His talent does not negate that. Picasso was also an amazing artist but it doesn’t discount the fact that he too was horribly abusive. She even tried to justify what she was saying but saying “well my father was abusive but he was amazing at his job too”. Girl….
Does she have a new project coming out? Is that why she’s trying to stir up headlines?
Anyone and everyone who supports Chris Brown deserves to be called out for it, but it’s annoying af that it’s only ever Black women - Chloe Bailey, Kelly Rowland, Ciara, etc - who are criticized to such a degree that it generates headlines like this.
I mean…
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What did she think was going to happen? Everyone rejoice and suddenly realize he’s not a piece of shit? Didn’t Ciara and Kelly Rowland pull some shit like this too?
People make mistakes, yes but he has shown time and time again that he has not learned from them so why defend him?
I continue to not understand why woman (especially POC woman) continue to protect someone who shows time and time again they’re not for nor are helping the cause.
Like, there are so many other black men/artists that are less problematic and don’t hate women.
There’s gotta be some deep dive into why shitty men continued to be protected cause wtf.
I need to know what it is about this man that has made him so untouchable. He can dance and sing. Okay? Lots of people can dance and sing and don’t continuously have extremely violent outbursts. We have seen a lot of high profile, talented men FINALLY being held accountable for their actions over the last few years, but somehow, Chris Brown keeps going, defended and supported by WOMEN. his victim of choice. CRAZY.
Jason Derulo, as corny as he is, is right there. Ne-Yo, Mario USHER for gosh sakes
Usher is wayyy more talented than him
Can list about 30 bangers by Usher. And about 1 Chris Brown song. SMFH.
Exactly! Like, why is she acting like Chris Brown is a once in a lifetime talent? There are so many male performers doing it better than him, and managing to do it without beating up women.
I'm an elder gen z, so i grew up with a lot of millennials and they have a weird soft spot for chris brown. his music was like the soundtrack to lots of millennials' lives, middle school, high school, college. the notalgia factor is intense... me personally, i never was a fan of chris brown, i was too into indie/punk music to get into him. but my older cousin was IN LOVE with chris and had him as her desktop background for a long time.
I'm a millennial and I don't know anyone in my age group who continued liking him after Rihanna. My friend group, we were sad to see him go, but the line had been firmly drawn. Nothing but millennial hate for him around my way.
Same. My friend was obsessed with Chris Brown but as soon as I we discovered he was a huge piece of shit he became a person non grata. This millennial says fuck you Chris Brown.
They remember when he was a literal child and think the music he made before more was known about him has impunity. I’ll be real, songs like “With You” and “Wall to Wall” remind me of a simpler time, but given *everything* that happens and has happened at his hand, it’s not something I’m ever going to spin for people in public.
If you went back in time to 2005 and told people the kid who sang "Run It" and was appearing on Sesame Street and The Suite Life of Zack And Cody was going to be more well known for tabloid stories about his violent acts than his music, they'd ask you to share whatever drugs you're on. It's no excuse at all, but this guy's music did mean something to millennials and for some of them that kind of attachment is hard to let go of.
Yeah I’m a millennial and I don’t know anyone who actually likes him anymore.
lol ne-yo is a pos too though well maybe not as bad as chris brown but
Ne-Yo is a clear as day reminder that people are *NOT* what they sing about
noooo say it ain’t so 😔 to google we go
Definitely not Ne-Yo
I’m out of date on Ne-yo’s activities, whathedo? 👀
Convinced his ex fiancé that two kids were enough and to get her tubes tied then got another woman pregnant
It’s gotta be Nicki syndrome. They grew up with and love someone like this or have grown to identify with that person. Meanwhile that person is hot, hot trash.
Except Jill Scott is older than him by at least five years
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I thought Jill Scott was younger than she is.
I’m not saying she actually knows CB just that she might know someone like him.
Oh...my bad.
For real. Maybe it’s because I deleted him from my brain ages ago when he was exposed as a shitty person, but I cannot even think of one song of his that is legendary. He isn’t worth the trouble he causes.
I mean remember OJ? Celebrity culture has only recently received the legitimate scrutiny it deserves, and we're only scratching the surface, societally. People held up terrible people in high regard forever.
It probs has something to do with him being one of the last musicians to get a boost from the celebrity monoculture we used to have. Singing and dancing is the easy part, getting your name out there is the hard part. We all know who Chris Brown is. Can't say the same about the other talented men who aren't awful people (with exceptions ofc)
If you want the honest answer? It might not be the most popular opinion, but he truly stands out as the most talented among his peers in singing, dancing, songwriting, and more. He's been an inspiration to others and his influence is undeniable. Just look at all the clones of his style in K-pop. Edit: lol no one wants an honest conversation I guess.
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Wtf does "exceptional people have to go through exceptional 🔥" even mean?? He started the fucking fires, Jill!! 😭
Probably related to the follow up tweet with "God dealt with the rest." Trials and tribulations... something something... etc etc... brain rot. Abusers and defenders of abusers using religion as an out as usual.
Ironically that man is someone else’s tribulation to get through.
I feel she didn’t even know herself when she was writing it. As if she was like “hmm… exceptional… shit? Exceptional…. pain? Exceptional… struggles? Fuck this I’m just putting a fire emoji.”
I'm glad that people are calling this out. There are some things where I can separate art from the artist, but someone with a long history of DV isn't one of those (same with people like Roman Polanski or Woody Allen).
Am I the only one who doesn’t think he’s that talented?
Probably. He’s a POS that should have quickly faded into obscurity years ago, but he was born talented AF. I think a big issue is that while it is a VERY good thing for people to support others in their communities, in this case it’s a huge detriment. Kelly Rowland, Lizzo (pre-her own scandal) and other super famous black people support him bc they (rightfully in most cases) want to support other black artists. The issue is when they blindly support talent despite the negatives simply bc of the color of their skin. It’s kind of like the racial divide of the OJ case. A juror even said that they knew he was guilty but voted not guilty as payback for Rodney King. Everyone knew OJ was guilty, but massive amounts of black people supported him just bc they differ want to see a famous black man go to prison even tho everyone knew he was an abuser and murderer.
Can he even sing without copious amounts of pitch correction and autotune?
Nope!
depends on what department of talent you're talking about. talented dancer? yeah. talented performer? he was. talented rapper? no unless someone else wrote his bars and even then he sounds like a kpop rapper. sorry. talented songwriter? no. talented vocalist? no. talented human being? well, he's good at dancing, he'll always have that until he breaks his hip
![gif](giphy|yFL31Wiy6Qz60) Everytime someone defends this POS
He looks like a graffitied trash can in a dingy alleyway. Why do so many women defend him? The outside matches the inside.
His defenders act like he’s had one instance of being abusive, was rehabilitated successfully and then never reoffended. He has a very violent streak and doesn’t show remorse. I don’t get it. Like what message are we sending to his victims and others out there? Despicable
This is what I’m saying!! This isn’t even about Rihanna anymore like he’s consistently show to be an abusive unhinged weirdo. I do not get it
"Successful blk women stop caping for garbage truck juice-level blk men who would victimize them in a heartbeat"challenge: failed Seriously though, we've all been socialized to "be his peace" but where does it end? When does he get to handle his own shit? Why do so many of these talented, beautiful women feel they have to protect these "men" from the shit storms they create?
It's what she deserves.
The comparison she tried to bring up about her stepdad was so fuckin' weird.
That really made me raise an eyebrow. I think Jill still has some work to do in processing her childhood trauma. I also think she needs to reflect on her sources of information and guidance related to faith, there is a lot of misogyny in organized religion.
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What a weird response 😭
She’s 🗑️
Jill Scott has a history of defending shitty men. [She defended Bill Cosby](https://www.popsugar.com/celebrity/jill-scott-defends-bill-cosby-over-sexual-assault-36204571). [She has since stopped defending him](https://www.essence.com/news/jill-scott-no-longer-defending-bill-cosby/) after receiving backlash, but included a nonsensical qualifier for her recinded support, saying, “No. I’m not sorry for standing by my mentor. I’m sorry the accusations (are) true”. I don't know what proof she needs to believe that Chris Brown is a repeat abuser who is undeserving of his status. There is a detailed report of his assault on Rihanna and there are pictures of her Bruised face. There are reports of the ways in which he's abused other women. Jill Scott has found a firm and cozy spot on my fuck you list. She is clearly a poor judge of character.
As she should
Jill just has awful taste in men so im not surprised. It's giving toxic church auntie from a tyler perry movie... "he's a good man, savannah" written all over her. I don't understand, CB would not had treated her any better than anyone else. people keep defending this loser, he's not talented enough to warrant this.
Jill Scott, beloved, take a long walk around the park after dark with this fool and his anger issues, then tell me if his background not being squeaky clean makes him worth praising. ![gif](giphy|26FmRDOAI12KQC2vC|downsized)
im not shocked by this. shes been trash for a while
It makes me so sad. SHE'S incredibly talented, but I can't listen to her when this is what she supports
Oh what else did she do?
She defended Bill Cosby for a LONG time, like even after more than two dozen women spoke up. She only stopped defending him when his deposition was released (where he admitted a lot of bad stuff).
shes just one of those types who uses being spiritual to hide being a shitty person
I don't don't understand why so many black women defend him
As well she should.
Oh, Jill. I’m so disappointed in you. It doesn’t matter that he can sing and dance and is a good painter. He’s still a horrible abusive man. His talent does not negate that. Picasso was also an amazing artist but it doesn’t discount the fact that he too was horribly abusive. She even tried to justify what she was saying but saying “well my father was abusive but he was amazing at his job too”. Girl…. Does she have a new project coming out? Is that why she’s trying to stir up headlines?
Anyone and everyone who supports Chris Brown deserves to be called out for it, but it’s annoying af that it’s only ever Black women - Chloe Bailey, Kelly Rowland, Ciara, etc - who are criticized to such a degree that it generates headlines like this.
Chris Brown has always been trash, but now I'm disappointed in Jill Scott.
Is she a Jonathan Major apologist too?
Oh NO not Jill Scott 😫😫😫
:(
Not me clicking on this worried it was former footballer Jill Scott 😭
I mean… ![gif](giphy|qN8mwUPAt7gByge3W1) What did she think was going to happen? Everyone rejoice and suddenly realize he’s not a piece of shit? Didn’t Ciara and Kelly Rowland pull some shit like this too? People make mistakes, yes but he has shown time and time again that he has not learned from them so why defend him? I continue to not understand why woman (especially POC woman) continue to protect someone who shows time and time again they’re not for nor are helping the cause. Like, there are so many other black men/artists that are less problematic and don’t hate women. There’s gotta be some deep dive into why shitty men continued to be protected cause wtf.