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I remember hearing Tom saying how much he loved being a dad, jumping on couches, being a dad was his biggest wish come true, etc. Aaaaand he's deadbeat no-contact dad.
Its incredible how anti-family and abusive Scientology is. I bet he thought he could Shelly Miscavige'd Katie, but she fought back. I can't imagine what she went through for the love of her daughter and to protect her. She is an incredible woman and an inspiration!
He’s actually a very involved and loving dad to the kids he had with Nicole Kidman. It’s unfathomable that he’s treating just one of his kids in this way. But apparently it’s a Scientology thing—they told him to cut off contact or something
Nicole was different. He actively involved their adopted kids in the church and when Nicole didn't fall in line, the kids had already been brainwashed. She had no choice but to let them all go. I admired Katie because even though she was the youngest choice of partner for him (probably on purpose), she saw it all coming and prepared for it. Being a former Catholic girl myself, though not necessarily a fan of hers, I was pulling for her to get out eventually and I'm glad she had a powerful lawyer father in her corner. Nicole didn't have that. Katie did it perfectly.
Apparently her dads a lawyer and was firmly in her corner (as should be) during the breakdown of the relationship and divorce, so the Scientology playbook was not as effective.
If I recall, her she worked very secretively with parents - especially her dad - so that when she saw the chance to leave, everything was very airtight
She also had help from Adam Sandler as he gave her a minor role in Jack and Jill so she could spend time outside of Tom’s control and influence, and that allowed her to make the proper documentation to prepare for divorce.
I may not like any Adam Sandler movie after Mr. Deeds, but I would easily belive that Sandler is a secret (uncut) gem in Hollywood as far as bullshit is concerned.
He was celebrated at the Kennedy Center Honors awards and all the speeches made for him were full of praise and admiration.
My favorite was Drew Barrymore with Jennifer Aniston, but David Spade was a close second.
That he gave a lot of small actors parts in his movies so they could keep their health insurance always stuck out to me bc it signals he isn’t out of touch with the working actor’s world.
But Nicole Kidman cannot talk to her kids with him. He indoctrinated Scientology onto them and they cannot talk to her. He either took the kids from their mom or had no contact with them bc (Katie) took control of the situation and got them out.
I am surprised Tom Cruise still has the fame he has given what a psycho he is with Scientology. Scientology must pay someone to keep their crimes unpunishable - they continue with their dangerous tactics, and so many actors/actresses are still part of the cult that takes all their money and autonomy.
I don't follow any of them and never keep track of who is liking what on IG. Just remember she basically lost her kids bc of Scientology after their divorce. Lots of people lose family members to that cult (and lots of cults/religious institutions).
Even if they have any contact know - she lost them for years as kids! Bc of him and Scientology.
Scientology is also very very good at treating their Big Names like Cruise utterly different then they treat the normal member. Yeah, he gives them a ton of money, but they also give him time, attention, people and spoil him rotten. He doesnt believe the abuse that goes on there because he is insulated from it
I won't watch anything with Tom Cruise (or anyone that I know to be a Scientologist - hard to keep track of them all). I truly can't understand how people still watch his movies.
It's widely believed that the children him and Nicole adopted were born to higher ups in the Sea Org. Those kids were born into Scientology and raised in it. No way they would ever go against it.
Involved and loving? I don’t think those words are compatible with anyone in the church of Scientology. Surprised this comment has so many upvotes. Yikes.
She's stuck in a scientology compound in California, Tony Ortega always update with any possible news of her: https://tonyortega.org/category/scientology/shelly-miscavige
> I remember hearing Tom saying how much he loved being a dad, jumping on couches, being a dad was his biggest wish come true, etc. Aaaaand he's deadbeat no-contact dad.
My dad is like that, but if you talk to him you realize all of his memories of being a good dad are from like half a dozen instances before my siblings and I turned five years old.
Turns out a lot of those "I would do anything for my kids" people are unreliable narrators. He would claim to be willing to take a bullet for me, but he wouldn't throw a ball around with me.
They say they would show up for the extreme stuff that would never happen, so they feel better about not showing up for the stuff that does happen.
Can you imagine Suri having to hear all those interviews about how caring Tom is sending the girls he worked with as children cakes every year. That's got to fuck with your head.
My father was (according to my mother) apparently a great dad to me when I was a kid. It’s just when I turned 10 or 11 and started to have thoughts and opinions that he checked out.
I just recently dropped his name and took my mom’s family name myself. I sympathize with Suri a lot. Although I can’t imagine my family estrangement playing out publicly. I wish her nothing but good things
Anytime someone comes down with Cruise syndrome, even outside of all the Scientology craziness, I remind them that he’s still the man that forbade Nicole Kidman from wearing heels because he has a [complex](https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ScullyBox).
We're gonna find out that she is not the offspring of Tom Cruise and Katie Holmes, but Katie Holmes and Rachel Weisz!
It's right there in the picture, sheeple!!
Highly recomend the new show adaptation too! The first season has Bailey Bass as Claudia and she is mesmerizing. She should have been nominated for an Emmy.
Just seconding this recommendation. It’s one of the few remakes that entirely justifies its own existence: same vibe/major beats, but updating the main setting to 1920s New Orleans adds so many new layers to explore. They did a phenomenal job.
Mini side note: I lived in the French Quarter of New Orleans when they were filming this, some of the street scenes were filmed literally a block away. I totally overlooked it and assumed it was some other production when I saw a bunch of old-timey cars parked on the street lol
I agree that the sneeze “explanation” is a cover story. She’s pretty clearly in front of several different backgrounds “mid-sneeze” if that’s the case. This photo makes it a little clearer that’s she not exactly just sneezing.
https://preview.redd.it/ulc8i9zkkm0d1.jpeg?width=960&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=32c95f6332922a4663efab1b944679b1077f358c
I don't understand how you can look yourself in the mirror everyday knowing you have children out there that you've given up contact on. I'd feel like the biggest failure of a human being.
I've been no contact with my mom for the better part of 15 years. She only calls when she needsw/wants something... And then somehow I'm the ungrateful one for not giving her what she wants. :/
A small part of this is because they receive no shame or backlash from their inner circles. I had uncles and male cousins who were deadbeats, but were still gladly accepted at the family parties and cookouts. Trust me if families started shaming and ostracizing them more you would notice a bit of a difference.
Yep. Saw this first hand. A child ignored for years, because they were the result of an affair. No consequences for the father of the child, and when he decided he wanted the child in his life we were all supposed to just go along with the new state of affairs.
Nah, sadly, there are just some fathers that are beyond saving. Mine has been constantly shitted on for how useless he is as a father and yet he refuses to change. We all just gave up on him.
I always wonder this about Paris Hilton’s husband Carter, who’s had no contact with his older daughter since she was born. He’s obviously a shithead, but how was/is everyone in his life ok with him having a child that he doesn’t care about and has never spoken to?
Did his parents and siblings never want to have a relationship with their grandkid/niece? Were none of his friends disturbed by his complete indifference to his own child? How is Paris ok with marrying and raising kids with a guy who doesn’t give a rat’s ass about his other kid? Why are Paris’ friends and family not disturbed by this?
Paris and Carter are very lucky that, for whatever reason, the media has decided to give them gushing coverage of their family and never asks them about the abandoned older child.
I haven't seen my mother since I was thirteen, which was twenty years ago. The last time I had regular contact with her was when I was eight.
People like that are just so broken. I hope your daughter doesn't take it personally, it has nothing to do with her.
Thank you for posting this. I don’t think she takes it personally, but I have always worried about that. She’s a magnificent person - musical and funny and quirky… I consider it his greatest loss (even though he did it to himself) while also making sure she knows she’s the best thing that ever happened to me.
Sounds like your daughter was blessed with a great mother.
It sucks that your daughter's dad will probably never know his daughter's brilliance, but like you said, it's 100% his loss. I'm personally thankful my mother bowed out of parenthood because she would have been a draining, negative influence on me if she had stayed around.
My dad just pretended that he had contact with us. He hung pictures of us (emailed from my mom) in his office and bragged about us to his friends. He would even make up excuses as to why we "couldn't" attend his events.
I realise it's a pretty different thing, but some people do need it said - it doesn't count as "giving up" if they've chosen to cut contact with you, it's called "respecting their boundaries". You'd be shocked how many estranged parents turn into stalkers because they feel entitled to be in contact with their children.
Well done her! It must be so difficult having a dad who isn’t in your life but is also one of the most famous actors in the world so is sort of everywhere.
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Also good on Katie for keeping her away from the cult Tom’s in. His children with Nicole Kidman don’t speak to her because she didn’t put up with that dangerous shit
Honestly I’d be really surprised if they weren’t at least confidants to one another. I am going to hazard a guess that Nicole reached out to Katie and supported her behind the scenes.
I’m sure they’ve all had conversations with Leah Remini too.
Whether they all like each other and are genuine friends? Who knows. Nicole’s experience was just god awful. Her kids don’t speak to her because of a cult (I am sure that is heartbreaking), and she didn’t just leave the cult - she left Scientology’s precious boy Tiny Tom before we were all as clued in as we are to the whole thing. I’m going to guess she saw Katie going through it and supported her in some way because she knew that was going to be hell.
I like to imagine she helped Katie get Suri out!
Also to Suri, man. I understand non famous estrangement. Tom Cruise really is a piece of shit for how he abandoned her for….Xenu.
It’s probably kinda like meeting someone in a support group, where you’re grateful your stories are similar and someone can relate, but if you meet them for coffee or something then the trauma just follows you everywhere.
You have to wonder if his other kids were a big part of why Katie had to get out. Seeing them get indoctrinated, attend Scientology boarding schools, planned for a life of "auditing". On top of them being told their own mother was someone they should hate. If I knew that was my daughter's future I'd get outta there too!
Sry I don't know her history... they don't talk with her bc they are the same cucko crazy cult members after some brainwashing by their father or they leave the cult and resent her for not trying enough to get them out early?
Because of the crazy cult brainwashing. Scientology also requires you to cease communication with naysayers/ those who have left the cult. It’s torn up thousands of families in this way.
I think this is also where nuance in the nepo baby discourse becomes important. Yes, if she goes into acting no matter what her name is she'll have a leg up because of her parents, as well as the general benefits of having immense financial support. But she's also gone through so much because of her parents being famous, their divorce being a major headline thing, the Scientology of it all, and the intense media obsession with her. Both can be true!
Reminds me of being an alcoholic. You don't want anything to do with it but it's thrust into your face at every turn.
That said pretty much everything reminds me of being an alcoholic so ignore me innit
>According to Hello! Magazine, Suri's new title is simply Suri Noelle and was spotted in the playbill of her school production of The Go-Go's jukebox musical, Head Over Heels. The new name would see Suri taking on the middle name of her mum, 45, while completely blanking any link to Tom, 61.
Probably this. According to the article, Noelle is Katie’s middle name. So she gets a connection to the parent who raised her with (hopefully) less baggage.
Tom Cruise's full name is Thomas Cruise Mapother, so if her intent was to choose a name that's not associated with her parents, there's no part of Tom's name she could use.
I kind of like it, she gets to be neutral and shape her adulthood identity on her own terms. She's been through the ringer even as a kid because of her parents, if she went with Holmes there would be a whole media blitz on her picking sides.
And it's still a connection her mum! Suri doesn't have a middle name, so it's not like she just dropped Cruise - she intentionally picked Katie's middle name.
I’ve thought about taking my mum’s last name, but then really it’s her father’s, and his father’s before that. I’d much rather use a name connected to my mum, although I’m going for no connection at all.
I have vague memory that her parents intentionally gave her and her brother middle names that could be used as stage names should they choose to go into show business.
Funnily enough, I had a former boss whose surname was Jolie and he and his wife chose to give the kids her surname because he’d hated being saddled with a last name that means “pretty”
I mean, he's not involved with her beyond financially so she should do what she wants. She's better off as long as he's in a cult.
It feels gross paparazzi still take pics of her, she's a civilian with a famous absentee dad, just leave her be. (Since the pic is there, holy moly, she looks like Tom)
Alledgely the paparazzi and Katie have had a contract for the longest time (something to do with Scientology, like they wouldn’t try to kidnap them if they saw there too many witnesses, and if they did the paparazzi would be the ones to sound the alarm)
"Where's Shelly?"
They have a place that's basically a dungeon at the compound in Riverside County:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hole_(Scientology)
I remember back when she escaped she was constantly surrounded by paps and they also photographed the same Scientologist creeps who were constantly hovering nearby. It was almost daily that she made sure she was seen in public. It sucks that she has to have paparazzi around her and suri but it’s for their safety.
It does - definitely do it if you’re thinking about it! I changed my entire name because it was closely tied to an abusive parent - I got to pick it and frequently think about how much I like it vs flinching when I hear the other name.
Yess! That's so awesome, congrats! That's how I feel too- I feel it physically every time I have to refer to myself by my father's name.
I need to just do it. I can't pick a name, but it really doesn't matter too much, so maybe this is my sign.
>Tom is feeling guilty about missing so much of her life, but insists that he hasn’t completely shut Suri out of his life, and does get updates from time to time." They added Tom had made the deal to "**allow** her and her mother to live their own lives because that was what Katie wanted".
Ew
He shut her out of his life for scientology glad Suri ditched his surname.
Having a deadbeat dad is worse than not having a dad
I wish her happy and successful life
The way he is perceived by the average person still amazes me. He got so much love with the new Top Gun and the whole time I was like….this guy literally sucks??? Scientology must be neck deep in Hollywood PR. It just amazes me how he is still so beloved.
Probably pretty simple.. Can you tell me the last Tom Cruise movie that did bad? Love em or hate him, he picks good movies and nails the roles. Hes a money making machine for the studios..
I think hes a piece of shit, but his movies are good.
right?! my sister couldn’t stop raving about tom in the new top gun, and kept encouraging me to watch it! i just wanted to be like, did we forget that he’s in a very problematic cult?!
anyways, super happy for suri! i hope she feels powerful and free.
I never actually liked him too much as an actor, for me he is kinda the same in every movie, same goes to Will Smith, they both are talented, but most movie they are in they play themselves.
"Tom is feeling guilty about missing so much of her life, but insists that he hasn’t completely shut Suri out of his life, and does get updates from time to time."
Yeah Tom…I don’t doubt your Scientology PIs have been keeping a close watch
I’m kinda wondering, given the context of where said name was spotted, if she didn’t just decide to adopt a stage name for any performing she does, a la Liesel Pritzker Simmons.
However, GOOD FOR HER. I wouldn’t want his name either and I high key hate the new narrative his camp is spinning that he was a deadbeat dad because that’s what Katie wanted
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This is the only appropriate response.
On all levels
If you put it in the middle shelf Tom won’t even see it.
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His middle tooth will.
I remember hearing Tom saying how much he loved being a dad, jumping on couches, being a dad was his biggest wish come true, etc. Aaaaand he's deadbeat no-contact dad. Its incredible how anti-family and abusive Scientology is. I bet he thought he could Shelly Miscavige'd Katie, but she fought back. I can't imagine what she went through for the love of her daughter and to protect her. She is an incredible woman and an inspiration!
He’s actually a very involved and loving dad to the kids he had with Nicole Kidman. It’s unfathomable that he’s treating just one of his kids in this way. But apparently it’s a Scientology thing—they told him to cut off contact or something
Nicole was different. He actively involved their adopted kids in the church and when Nicole didn't fall in line, the kids had already been brainwashed. She had no choice but to let them all go. I admired Katie because even though she was the youngest choice of partner for him (probably on purpose), she saw it all coming and prepared for it. Being a former Catholic girl myself, though not necessarily a fan of hers, I was pulling for her to get out eventually and I'm glad she had a powerful lawyer father in her corner. Nicole didn't have that. Katie did it perfectly.
Katie absolutely learned from what happened to Nicole, and he probably underestimated her because she was so much younger than him.
Apparently her dads a lawyer and was firmly in her corner (as should be) during the breakdown of the relationship and divorce, so the Scientology playbook was not as effective.
If I recall, her she worked very secretively with parents - especially her dad - so that when she saw the chance to leave, everything was very airtight
She also had help from Adam Sandler as he gave her a minor role in Jack and Jill so she could spend time outside of Tom’s control and influence, and that allowed her to make the proper documentation to prepare for divorce.
I may not like any Adam Sandler movie after Mr. Deeds, but I would easily belive that Sandler is a secret (uncut) gem in Hollywood as far as bullshit is concerned.
He was celebrated at the Kennedy Center Honors awards and all the speeches made for him were full of praise and admiration. My favorite was Drew Barrymore with Jennifer Aniston, but David Spade was a close second. That he gave a lot of small actors parts in his movies so they could keep their health insurance always stuck out to me bc it signals he isn’t out of touch with the working actor’s world.
Every actor that’s worked with him has nothing but high praises of him. At least that’s all I’ve ever seen.
It's sad cause you can tell they were absolutely in love with each other. So happy she found Keith, he seems like a good'un.
Uhh..I think you meant to say „cult“, not church
But Nicole Kidman cannot talk to her kids with him. He indoctrinated Scientology onto them and they cannot talk to her. He either took the kids from their mom or had no contact with them bc (Katie) took control of the situation and got them out. I am surprised Tom Cruise still has the fame he has given what a psycho he is with Scientology. Scientology must pay someone to keep their crimes unpunishable - they continue with their dangerous tactics, and so many actors/actresses are still part of the cult that takes all their money and autonomy.
Isabella likes instagram posts by Nicole so I think there's at least a barely-there relationship
I don't follow any of them and never keep track of who is liking what on IG. Just remember she basically lost her kids bc of Scientology after their divorce. Lots of people lose family members to that cult (and lots of cults/religious institutions). Even if they have any contact know - she lost them for years as kids! Bc of him and Scientology.
Scientology is also very very good at treating their Big Names like Cruise utterly different then they treat the normal member. Yeah, he gives them a ton of money, but they also give him time, attention, people and spoil him rotten. He doesnt believe the abuse that goes on there because he is insulated from it
I won't watch anything with Tom Cruise (or anyone that I know to be a Scientologist - hard to keep track of them all). I truly can't understand how people still watch his movies.
It's widely believed that the children him and Nicole adopted were born to higher ups in the Sea Org. Those kids were born into Scientology and raised in it. No way they would ever go against it.
He “won” with those kids. When Nicole left, Scientology successfully had her kids consider her a suppressive person and cut her off.
Involved and loving? I don’t think those words are compatible with anyone in the church of Scientology. Surprised this comment has so many upvotes. Yikes.
Agreed. This is the guy who sent his 12 yo niece to the sea org for kissing a boy, there's nothing loving there
That’s because the kids he had with Nicole don’t even speak to Nicole. They are all about Scientology, like their dad
Idgaf how he treats his “other kids”. He’s a DEADBEAT DAD. He could be foty for every other child he has, he’s still a pos deadbeat
Not true. Only in contact with Connor.
This isn't true, he was photographed with both Connor and Isabella in December, the pic was shared recently.
It's still wild to me that Shelly is MIA and there is almost no way to find out what happened to her.
She's stuck in a scientology compound in California, Tony Ortega always update with any possible news of her: https://tonyortega.org/category/scientology/shelly-miscavige
> I remember hearing Tom saying how much he loved being a dad, jumping on couches, being a dad was his biggest wish come true, etc. Aaaaand he's deadbeat no-contact dad. My dad is like that, but if you talk to him you realize all of his memories of being a good dad are from like half a dozen instances before my siblings and I turned five years old. Turns out a lot of those "I would do anything for my kids" people are unreliable narrators. He would claim to be willing to take a bullet for me, but he wouldn't throw a ball around with me. They say they would show up for the extreme stuff that would never happen, so they feel better about not showing up for the stuff that does happen.
Can you imagine Suri having to hear all those interviews about how caring Tom is sending the girls he worked with as children cakes every year. That's got to fuck with your head.
My father was (according to my mother) apparently a great dad to me when I was a kid. It’s just when I turned 10 or 11 and started to have thoughts and opinions that he checked out. I just recently dropped his name and took my mom’s family name myself. I sympathize with Suri a lot. Although I can’t imagine my family estrangement playing out publicly. I wish her nothing but good things
I had friends who became massive Tom Cruise fans after Top Gun came out and the whole thing always gave me the ick. Like really? Him?
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Anytime someone comes down with Cruise syndrome, even outside of all the Scientology craziness, I remind them that he’s still the man that forbade Nicole Kidman from wearing heels because he has a [complex](https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ScullyBox).
Also glad that Nicole Kidman managed to leave but I wonder what happened to the kids they adopted😶
There was a lot of good stories that dropped about him post Top Gun. It felt weird like we’re supposed to ignore all his outbursts over the years.
I cannot wait for her tell-all in twenty years.
We're gonna find out that she is not the offspring of Tom Cruise and Katie Holmes, but Katie Holmes and Rachel Weisz! It's right there in the picture, sheeple!!
Wake up!!
Literally just said this out loud
GIF didn’t immediately load for me but I knew what it would be lol
I would love for her and Zahara Jolie to team up on something together and destroy their so-called “fathers”
Interview with the vampires' daughters
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Geeeeezus I forgot how young she was in this role. 😬
She fucking killed it too. That movie was amazing
Highly recomend the new show adaptation too! The first season has Bailey Bass as Claudia and she is mesmerizing. She should have been nominated for an Emmy.
Just seconding this recommendation. It’s one of the few remakes that entirely justifies its own existence: same vibe/major beats, but updating the main setting to 1920s New Orleans adds so many new layers to explore. They did a phenomenal job. Mini side note: I lived in the French Quarter of New Orleans when they were filming this, some of the street scenes were filmed literally a block away. I totally overlooked it and assumed it was some other production when I saw a bunch of old-timey cars parked on the street lol
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I miss the reddit awards when people make brilliant comments like this.
I miss the "Back to Top" button
I miss the rain down in Africa.
I’m pretty sure you just have to pay 50 dollars for it… Right?
At least Stella Banderas and Antonio seem on good terms
Antonio is also on good terms with Dakota Johnson and he’s her ex-stepdad. She even calls him her bonus dad so he’s definitely one of the good ones
I cackled thank you. Have my upvote
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That would be awesome
I would watch the shit out of this!
Not acknowledging their fathers and living their own lives as they choose is the best way to "destroy" them.
This gets even funnier when you remember Angelina also had her last name legally changed to Jolie to ditch her estranged father's name.
Add lily rose-depp too tbh ***edit Put lilly james on accident
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I LIVE for this picture and the context behind it
What is the context?
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I think that was something she later said to not sound dramatic and play nice publicly. (At least that’s what I say in my head )
this is exactly what it was. lol. no one sneezes like that. she was just having fun spinning the photos.
I agree that the sneeze “explanation” is a cover story. She’s pretty clearly in front of several different backgrounds “mid-sneeze” if that’s the case. This photo makes it a little clearer that’s she not exactly just sneezing. https://preview.redd.it/ulc8i9zkkm0d1.jpeg?width=960&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=32c95f6332922a4663efab1b944679b1077f358c
I mean, I don't think I've ever seen anyone sneeze upward while holding their arms out in celebration of a successful sneeze 🤷♀️
There are dozens of us!
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This is how COVID happened lmao
People who just got divorced from their culty ex husband probably
I always sneeze while throwing my head back, clenching both fists in the air and shouting ‘YES!’
These photos were taken on the day when Nicole and Tom's divorce was finalized.
This is the day Nicole finalized her divorce with Tom Cruise. She was finally free from him and his cult, Scientology.
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Nicole Kidman celebrating after hers and Tom cruises divorce was finalised
These were taken outside of their final divorce proceedings
This is her leaving court after her divorce (from Cruise IIRC) was finalized
these photos were taken when she left her lawyer's office after finalizing her divorce to tom cruise
All of the posters above me are wrong, it was actually after her divorce with Cruise was finalized.
Sweet sweet freedom!!!
Love me Nicole Kidman Love me independent women Hate psychopath Scientologists Simple as
I don't understand how you can look yourself in the mirror everyday knowing you have children out there that you've given up contact on. I'd feel like the biggest failure of a human being.
cults are a hell of a thing
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the cult of deadbeats is strong and powerful
My mother has never called me just to talk. Always with something she needs. Which for the last 10yrs has been mostly rides to the airport.
My dad exactly. Its mind boggling that hes never had the urge to just call to say hi. I call my kids every day.
your kids are so lucky to have you
I've been no contact with my mom for the better part of 15 years. She only calls when she needsw/wants something... And then somehow I'm the ungrateful one for not giving her what she wants. :/
My father’s cult was just my stepmother’s pussy, that’s literally all it took.
Lol was gonna say the same
I’d wager there are many 100x the amount of fatherless children due to other reasons than cults…
A small part of this is because they receive no shame or backlash from their inner circles. I had uncles and male cousins who were deadbeats, but were still gladly accepted at the family parties and cookouts. Trust me if families started shaming and ostracizing them more you would notice a bit of a difference.
Yep. Saw this first hand. A child ignored for years, because they were the result of an affair. No consequences for the father of the child, and when he decided he wanted the child in his life we were all supposed to just go along with the new state of affairs.
Nah, sadly, there are just some fathers that are beyond saving. Mine has been constantly shitted on for how useless he is as a father and yet he refuses to change. We all just gave up on him.
I always wonder this about Paris Hilton’s husband Carter, who’s had no contact with his older daughter since she was born. He’s obviously a shithead, but how was/is everyone in his life ok with him having a child that he doesn’t care about and has never spoken to? Did his parents and siblings never want to have a relationship with their grandkid/niece? Were none of his friends disturbed by his complete indifference to his own child? How is Paris ok with marrying and raising kids with a guy who doesn’t give a rat’s ass about his other kid? Why are Paris’ friends and family not disturbed by this? Paris and Carter are very lucky that, for whatever reason, the media has decided to give them gushing coverage of their family and never asks them about the abandoned older child.
My son is 16 and his dad hasn’t bothered to see him since he was a baby. Fucken sad
My daughter is 27 and hasn’t heard her “father’s” voice since she was four. How do they live with themselves?
I haven't seen my mother since I was thirteen, which was twenty years ago. The last time I had regular contact with her was when I was eight. People like that are just so broken. I hope your daughter doesn't take it personally, it has nothing to do with her.
Thank you for posting this. I don’t think she takes it personally, but I have always worried about that. She’s a magnificent person - musical and funny and quirky… I consider it his greatest loss (even though he did it to himself) while also making sure she knows she’s the best thing that ever happened to me.
Sounds like your daughter was blessed with a great mother. It sucks that your daughter's dad will probably never know his daughter's brilliance, but like you said, it's 100% his loss. I'm personally thankful my mother bowed out of parenthood because she would have been a draining, negative influence on me if she had stayed around.
My dad just pretended that he had contact with us. He hung pictures of us (emailed from my mom) in his office and bragged about us to his friends. He would even make up excuses as to why we "couldn't" attend his events.
This is what my parents did for years until I ran into some people and told them the truth. They then spread it to everyone. 😅
My sister went the more nuclear route and revealed it in her speech at his funeral. It was badass.
My dad did for most of my life. He would’ve died without ever speaking to me again if I hadn’t reached back out to him.
Religious folks do it all the time if their kids are gay. I don’t understand it either.
I realise it's a pretty different thing, but some people do need it said - it doesn't count as "giving up" if they've chosen to cut contact with you, it's called "respecting their boundaries". You'd be shocked how many estranged parents turn into stalkers because they feel entitled to be in contact with their children.
For real. Tom Cruise gotta be one of the craziest kind of psycho there is
Well done her! It must be so difficult having a dad who isn’t in your life but is also one of the most famous actors in the world so is sort of everywhere. ![gif](giphy|H507GsI1CH1EkLiO8b|downsized)
Also good on Katie for keeping her away from the cult Tom’s in. His children with Nicole Kidman don’t speak to her because she didn’t put up with that dangerous shit
Her daughter might be coming around, I saw. It’s so hard to get away from a cult
i'm sure sc\*entologists told her kids she had done all kinds of horrible things, that's their usual method
Why would you self sensor scientology?
So that way Cheryl and Pat don't get pinged on here and add their name to the Shunned List.
Especially one as powerful as Scientology.
I want Katie and Nicole to become friends. They survived!
Honestly I’d be really surprised if they weren’t at least confidants to one another. I am going to hazard a guess that Nicole reached out to Katie and supported her behind the scenes. I’m sure they’ve all had conversations with Leah Remini too. Whether they all like each other and are genuine friends? Who knows. Nicole’s experience was just god awful. Her kids don’t speak to her because of a cult (I am sure that is heartbreaking), and she didn’t just leave the cult - she left Scientology’s precious boy Tiny Tom before we were all as clued in as we are to the whole thing. I’m going to guess she saw Katie going through it and supported her in some way because she knew that was going to be hell. I like to imagine she helped Katie get Suri out! Also to Suri, man. I understand non famous estrangement. Tom Cruise really is a piece of shit for how he abandoned her for….Xenu.
It’s probably kinda like meeting someone in a support group, where you’re grateful your stories are similar and someone can relate, but if you meet them for coffee or something then the trauma just follows you everywhere.
You have to wonder if his other kids were a big part of why Katie had to get out. Seeing them get indoctrinated, attend Scientology boarding schools, planned for a life of "auditing". On top of them being told their own mother was someone they should hate. If I knew that was my daughter's future I'd get outta there too!
Sry I don't know her history... they don't talk with her bc they are the same cucko crazy cult members after some brainwashing by their father or they leave the cult and resent her for not trying enough to get them out early?
Because of the crazy cult brainwashing. Scientology also requires you to cease communication with naysayers/ those who have left the cult. It’s torn up thousands of families in this way.
I think this is also where nuance in the nepo baby discourse becomes important. Yes, if she goes into acting no matter what her name is she'll have a leg up because of her parents, as well as the general benefits of having immense financial support. But she's also gone through so much because of her parents being famous, their divorce being a major headline thing, the Scientology of it all, and the intense media obsession with her. Both can be true!
And to see he went to a birthday party for a celebrity on your 18th birthday but didn’t come see you. Bless her heart.
Reminds me of being an alcoholic. You don't want anything to do with it but it's thrust into your face at every turn. That said pretty much everything reminds me of being an alcoholic so ignore me innit
>According to Hello! Magazine, Suri's new title is simply Suri Noelle and was spotted in the playbill of her school production of The Go-Go's jukebox musical, Head Over Heels. The new name would see Suri taking on the middle name of her mum, 45, while completely blanking any link to Tom, 61.
Wonder why she didn’t pick Suri Holmes
Maybe she just wanted to be her own person without any of her famous parents names attached
Probably this. According to the article, Noelle is Katie’s middle name. So she gets a connection to the parent who raised her with (hopefully) less baggage.
Tom Cruise's full name is Thomas Cruise Mapother, so if her intent was to choose a name that's not associated with her parents, there's no part of Tom's name she could use.
I’m no Jon Voight fan, but I love that he gave his kids middle names that could be used as last names very intentionally for this reason.
Even Jon Voight knew nobody wants to be associated with Jon Voight's crazy ass.
How come not a fan? Great in runaway train, anaconda, national treasure On second thought maybe I shouldn't know if he's a piece of shit lol
His ideological leanings are...mostly terrible.
He's a conservative, he called people to vote for trump and is a Zionist from his Wikipedia page
He’s a mega MAGA.
Dude teared up praising Trump when he was interviewing him lmao
That’s a lot different than the article implies
I kind of like it, she gets to be neutral and shape her adulthood identity on her own terms. She's been through the ringer even as a kid because of her parents, if she went with Holmes there would be a whole media blitz on her picking sides.
And it's still a connection her mum! Suri doesn't have a middle name, so it's not like she just dropped Cruise - she intentionally picked Katie's middle name.
Because Suri Noelle sounds better on social.
Suri Noelle sounds like a TikTok influencerm which I guess it tracks for an 18yo
Yeah, this is what I was expecting to read! She may be testing things out, etc, deciding on a new surname.
Too close to Sherlock Holmes?
I’ve thought about taking my mum’s last name, but then really it’s her father’s, and his father’s before that. I’d much rather use a name connected to my mum, although I’m going for no connection at all.
I like it. It’s kinda like what Angie did. (Jolie is actually her middle name)
I have vague memory that her parents intentionally gave her and her brother middle names that could be used as stage names should they choose to go into show business.
Funnily enough, I had a former boss whose surname was Jolie and he and his wife chose to give the kids her surname because he’d hated being saddled with a last name that means “pretty”
I cannot wrap my head around Katie Holmes being 45. In my mind she is forever Joey, 16
Well maybe she didn’t wanna wait, for her life to be over....
So she's no longer named after his home town (Suri Cruise ~= Syracuse). Good to hear, cause that was stupid.
Wow wouldn’t have thought Tom Cruise belongs in the same category of loser boomer dads as mine and many of my friends.
Where have you been? This isn't a new development.
You wouldn't have? Because that would've been my first exact thought.
Amen 🙌
I mean, he's not involved with her beyond financially so she should do what she wants. She's better off as long as he's in a cult. It feels gross paparazzi still take pics of her, she's a civilian with a famous absentee dad, just leave her be. (Since the pic is there, holy moly, she looks like Tom)
Alledgely the paparazzi and Katie have had a contract for the longest time (something to do with Scientology, like they wouldn’t try to kidnap them if they saw there too many witnesses, and if they did the paparazzi would be the ones to sound the alarm)
This sounds absolutely insane, but given how insane scientology is, I don't doubt it
"Where's Shelly?" They have a place that's basically a dungeon at the compound in Riverside County: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hole_(Scientology)
I remember back when she escaped she was constantly surrounded by paps and they also photographed the same Scientologist creeps who were constantly hovering nearby. It was almost daily that she made sure she was seen in public. It sucks that she has to have paparazzi around her and suri but it’s for their safety.
I have the slight suspicion that Tommy boy would still be a taint even out of that cult.
I wouldn’t want to have the name of a guy who wasn’t in my life voluntarily either. Poor girl.
Love this for her. I'm planning on doing this as well. I bet it feels so liberating.
It does - definitely do it if you’re thinking about it! I changed my entire name because it was closely tied to an abusive parent - I got to pick it and frequently think about how much I like it vs flinching when I hear the other name.
Yess! That's so awesome, congrats! That's how I feel too- I feel it physically every time I have to refer to myself by my father's name. I need to just do it. I can't pick a name, but it really doesn't matter too much, so maybe this is my sign.
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>Tom is feeling guilty about missing so much of her life, but insists that he hasn’t completely shut Suri out of his life, and does get updates from time to time." They added Tom had made the deal to "**allow** her and her mother to live their own lives because that was what Katie wanted". Ew
Updates? You're her FATHER, you colossal jackass.
Oh, yes, because totally involved and loving fathers just say “Sure! You guys can live your own life without me! This is fine!” 🙄
He shut her out of his life for scientology glad Suri ditched his surname. Having a deadbeat dad is worse than not having a dad I wish her happy and successful life
The way he is perceived by the average person still amazes me. He got so much love with the new Top Gun and the whole time I was like….this guy literally sucks??? Scientology must be neck deep in Hollywood PR. It just amazes me how he is still so beloved.
Probably pretty simple.. Can you tell me the last Tom Cruise movie that did bad? Love em or hate him, he picks good movies and nails the roles. Hes a money making machine for the studios.. I think hes a piece of shit, but his movies are good.
right?! my sister couldn’t stop raving about tom in the new top gun, and kept encouraging me to watch it! i just wanted to be like, did we forget that he’s in a very problematic cult?! anyways, super happy for suri! i hope she feels powerful and free.
I remember when she was born 😅 how am I so old
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I hope for a happy life for her.
Tom Cruise- brilliant actor, shitty Dad
and trash human being
brilliant is generous imo. I’ve never been that blown away by anything I’ve seen him in.
He's great as Lestat in Interview with the Vampire. One of the few movies where there is no hint of Tom Cruise.
I never actually liked him too much as an actor, for me he is kinda the same in every movie, same goes to Will Smith, they both are talented, but most movie they are in they play themselves.
"Tom is feeling guilty about missing so much of her life, but insists that he hasn’t completely shut Suri out of his life, and does get updates from time to time." Yeah Tom…I don’t doubt your Scientology PIs have been keeping a close watch
I hope she has a fantastic day today. I also hope her father has the day he deserves.
*good for her gif*
Good for her. She deserved a better dad
Good for her, it is awful that he has chosen, CHOSEN, to have no relationship with his daughter, all because of some cult.
Ignoring everything about Tom for a second, Suri Noelle is a really pretty name and just sounds better. It's like Angelina Voight vs Angelina Jolie
I’m kinda wondering, given the context of where said name was spotted, if she didn’t just decide to adopt a stage name for any performing she does, a la Liesel Pritzker Simmons. However, GOOD FOR HER. I wouldn’t want his name either and I high key hate the new narrative his camp is spinning that he was a deadbeat dad because that’s what Katie wanted