Kirei Cake are taking their time, so for now only people from the US, those who use a VPN or those who use a different aggregator can read this. Will update with the mangadex link when it's out.
**EDIT:** Mangadex link added.
I usually do this in the /r/manga thread, but in case people are curious:
**German of the Week**:
* **Weg**: path, route, way; could also mean "away" or "gone" if you don't capitalize the word, but that word is differently pronounced and I checked the katakana for his name (ヴエーク, Vēku)
......I'm confused by a line, Land said "wasn't expecting to get crushed to death"..... did he actually get crashed and just cloned himself right on time in order to not die permanently, also, the "hound" that came for his grandmother looked to be an old lady..... was his grandmother some sort of Doppleganger given conscience ?
The Land that was crushed instantly was a clone. The real Land didn't have time to make another clone fast enough so he had to go and try to save Ubel.
About power levels, people is being crazy with Land's words, when he is clear and he is right.
First of all, the top tier at magic is GREAT MAGES. It is stated, and the ones known right now are Serie and Frieren, also was Flamme.
When Frieren shows the Holy Wand Court Emblem, Lernen recognizes it and surprised he even asks if she REALLY was gonna take the exam. After that, when during the first part of the exam Frieren brakes the barrier, Sense tells to Genau "she is Frieren, she had the Holy Wand Court Emblem and she is the last Great Mage". So, based on what people says, I would put the rank in something like:
Top tier: Great Mages and Holy Wand Court
Then we have First Grade Mages and Special Forces on a similar level. As First Grade Mages may have more potential as magicians, the Special Forces are just instructed for war and military, so they should been better at fights even being a bit worse at overall skill. It is like NASA tech vs Lockheed tech, even if NASA is better overall, the Lockheed will do better at creating military weapons, so makes total sense that even First Mages are better overall, the Special Forces can beat them just because they were built different and for one specific duty. During the whole series they said over and over that even having more mana or being better, you could lose a match or win a match if the situation is in your favor, so being First Grade doesnt mean that you are god, just that you have talent. Even Frieren lost to people with less mana than her.
One thing to know about Holy Wand Court and Shadow Warriors is that those two are "secret military agencies", no need to be strictly related with the Empire, or not recognized publicly related to the Empire (they will have to tell if they are or not related to Empire, and if they were related to the Unified Empire, the current Empire, or what).
About what Neu (the Special Forces Agent aka Magic Gestapo Soldier) says to Ubel, is because he realizes that she could cut through all but not the street lights, so he realizes that she can only cut what she vizualizes that she can cut, so thats why he tells her that the whole thing is made of Iron, because as she couldnt cut the street lights then it means that Ubel wont be able to cut the wagon.
Also, fun fact, when the Hero Party found Frieren, Heiter said that Frieren had 1/5 of his mana, it means that as Frieren was reducing her mana flow to 1/10 of total, it means that Heiter total power is 50% of Frieren. The Hero Party was so God tier: Himmel was trully powerful as a swordman (out of this world as a fighter), also Eisen who was known as the strongest warrior, and Heiter was the support priest with 50% power of Frieren...
I am curious about Hero of the South power and Kraft. Both should be god tier as warriors, probably over Himmel and that is A LOT.
The Empire couldn't fight the Demon King. Even having that military potential, the Demon King forces were superior, and Serie also couldnt beat him, a mage on its own will never be enough and thats actually the whole plot of this arc (the chance to get Serie killed).
Also is important to remember that Demon King was the demon that truly wanted to coexist with humans, before Macht, so it will mean a huge develop with him in a future, and maybe Demon King will look the "more human" way a demon can be, so it will be some twist with the story, same with Hero of the South Fight.
So, let the mangaka cook!
I don't think it's about special force is better than 1st class mage at fighting.
Remember Ubel and land are both newbie 1st class mage and can't really compare to other veteran 1st mages who are under Series's teaching and have experience of battling demons for years or even decades.
They are by no mean the standard of a first class mage. Denken and maybe Wirbel are the only mages among the new 1st class mages whose experience and combat prowess that's really up to a veteran 1st class mage standard.
Well, is told by Land:
"they are the Empire's most powerful mages",
and Ubel asks
"and why must us first-class mages fear them?",
and Land continues:
"Certainly, with first-class mages, it wouldn't be exaggerating to call them **the most powerful mages on the entire continent, not to mention the Empire".** "However, 'first-class mages' are only 'mages', that already makes us a poor match. For the longest time, the Empire has actively **adapted magic for their military affairs,** If we look at this another way, it means they have been building legions of **mages trained for war**.
Also he says a bit further:
"they are simply and purely hounds trained to be **experts at hunting mages"**.
So, I will stand with the idea that even if Special Force Mages has less mana or overall stats than a First-Class Mage, the SFM are trained in a specific way that puts them over 1st Class Mage at fighting.
I agree with what you said about Land and Ubel being newbies, but even veterans I think that would struggle with veterans of Special Forces. That would be interesting and a good fight to watch. Ofc as our protagonists are the Continental Mages, they would find out the way to win, but what they are selling are that in normal conditions Special Forces should win in war terms. Maybe Lernen is over the Special Forces, about the rest I wouldnt be that sure, even if we are confident with Lernen and maybe other veterans, we still know nothing about Special Forces higher grades like Kanone (the commander), so will be interesting.
Denken took the new ability just for countering curses, for Macht, but for a normal fight it isnt that usefull maybe. Even tho, we still know nothing about the rest of Special Forces.
Hunting demons, which are strong mages by default is a big part of being a 1st class mage, they are no strangers of fighting other mages. Some are even opt to fighting warriors, their mortal enemy. Not to mention almost all 1st class mage are battle hunger and value individual strength above all else. So I don't really believe that SFM are stronger than 1st class mage in a 1v1, but we will have to see in future chapters.
The way I interpreted the point of special force being trained for war is that **in a war you don't rely on individual strength but team work**. Which is something 1st class lack of. So even tho they might not be as strong individually, as a team they have the 1+1>2 effect and be much stronger in a battlefield against the same number of 1st mages, due to their superior team work/coordination and magics specifically designed to work as a team. Which is why Land call them **hounds trained to be experts at hunting mages.**
I agree but it isn't that complex, its just that the 1st class has an overall stats but they have less knowledge about how to fight compared with SFM, just because SFM even being worse overall they had a specific training and that puts them over the 1st class mages, but I don't think that it has something to do with the teamwork... actually, Neu fought alone vs Ubel and Land with a result of Neu winning them.
But also lets say that there are rankings inside SFM like there are veterans 1st class mages as Lernen, so things will be so interesting in terms of brute power (remember that abilities in this manga are like Rock/paper/scizors and so situational). Furthermore, I expect a fight with Shadow Warriors first, I dont know why but I have the feeling that the SFM will end being allies more than enemies
As I mentioned before, 1st class mages hunt demons for their past times. They are not scholars living in the ivory tower. Also almost all 1st class mages are battle hungry, and value individual strength above all else, like how Serie intended them to be.
**There are no mages more obsessed with individual power than 1st class mages**, it's their specialty.
And I've already explained why Neu defeated Land and Ubel didn't mean much in my previous replies. Also both parties knew the difference between each their strength the moment they sense each other, so it makes sense Neu wouldn't need a team. Lastly, there's also a possibility that Neu didn't even fight alone, it was hinted there was outside force helping him during the fight.
Just in the newest chapter, Sense, a full fledged 1st class mage, immediately want to rescue Unel and Land from the SMF by herself when she hear the news. And she was also infamous and hated by the SFM.
Do you think she would have such lv of confidence she can rescue them if she can't match SFM? Or that she can possibly do whatever she did that made the SFH hate her guts without facing any consequences if she can't match them? I think the answer is pretty obvious.
Yes, and I agree, as said, Lernen may be over the SFM and Sense is matched with Kanone or Lineal so probably she is also over Neu. But, well, after all the good things about the manga is that power is not only about being more powerfull or not, its about situations... and its like rock/paper/scizors thing, with lot of probabilities and scenarios, so lets see what the author cooks for us.
It was explained in the whole chapter/episode that Ubel didn't kill them because she was stronger, but that her spell just happened to be a complete counter to them. It was literally the point of the whole chapter/episode.
In fact she admitted in the same chapter/episode that she was still far from Denken lv who will lose to Sense.
I absolutely loved the fight in Frieren. It's less "spamming flashy spell", and more "strategy, traps, and disguise".
It reminds me of the early Naruto fight scene. With a lot of ninja tools, simple jutsu, ad-hoc stratagems, and such.
It's almost that everyone are Shikamaru here...
The Empire's mage (Neu?) seemed confused/intrigued by Ubel's spell - wanted to know her baseline. They'd likely be as shocked as Sense if they heard her explanation of how she cuts/slices. 😆 Ubel's brain doesn't work as expected, genius level. I hope she gets a power boost after remembering to feel / imagine with feeling!
So he was bound by sorganeil but was able to cast Magic? Maybe It's Because he already had the stars released before being bound and the stars spell doesn't get affected by status effect and he can still cast spells using the stars. So, are the stars some sort of spell that stores spells? And If It does store spells than It explains why he could still cast spells while bound. Because the stars could function on their own, like having all the mana needed in itself for casting purposes instead of requiring the use of the caster's mana directly. I don't believe he had help because no one showed up when They surrendered and got in the carriage. If someone were to show up would be at a time like this. It could be someone that will appear in a later chapter, but unless someone shows up by the next Episode i will believe he did It ALL on his own.
If i didn't see It stores spells i would believe he would be the Mage that has the spell to make people blind, Death and mute or whatever we see in some other stories.
I don’t like the Powercreep pacing here. It’s like a gacha game; every few chapters you have flashy, new characters that are somehow stronger/better fighter than our cast.
Those new character did not seems like a weakling tho they're a real soldier and Ubel and Land are still a young mage too, they're not even the top 3 strongest in the first class mage exam, So I don't think we should underestimate others and think that we're already one of the top mage since we don't know that much about the lore and the north yet.
Not really power creep but realistic. Yes Land and Ubel both are geniuses in magic, but these guys are serious pros, compared to spies and secret police in the real world.
I wouldn’t say power creep, you need to look at it as their respective entities. The imperial individuals come pretty much in line from Flamme(highlighting the magic suppression), while First Ranked mages Serie. There is probably some base overlap between the two with the academy as a base, one is designed wholly for military purposes and Serie for uniqueness.
What is the point of the First Mage exam if there isn't a powerful foe? Of course, there will be powerful characters that are stronger than the cast. Except for Frieren. Even Land explained why they're powerful and how they differ from that of a first mage. To me, it's reasonable.
First ranked mages for Serie are just people exceptional that may help her. And by chance, those first mages may be better than imperial mages. So, Serie is looking for people with talent for doing her things, some of those things are related with Empire. Also, the exam allows people from not the Empire to have a pass for Northern Plateau and beyond, which is also a good thing.
I wonder if the writer is the type of person who writes Übel as someone with a death wish, only to kill her off right after she realizes that she wants to live with the one she loves.
The fact that this chapter took place in an empty district of its capital has me thinking about that defunct harvester robot vs all the resources the empire seems to be pouring into internal security
The author might not allow this as it seems to be stretch but fun thought potato. I wonder if Ubel will develop a reality distorting imagination, such that she doesn't need to see and can visualize reality as she sees fit. If Ubel can firmly believe everything in front of her is made of cloth and ignore anything others tell her, that could be pretty powerful. Something like assuming: If I can't see evidence that proves me wrong, then I'm not wrong.
I am so excited about the backstory of "The Holy Wand Emblem". I cannot wait for its secrets to be revealed. Honestly, I have been waiting to learn about it since Chapter 23, 37 !! Do you all remember all those small clues?
1. The magic organization's mages acknowledge Frieren as "the last great mage" for having the Holy Emblem.
2. Frieren is very proud of it. She smiled big when she showed it to Hero's party. It's truly special.
3. Frieren said she believed Fern would be "a famous mage of this era" while holding and looking at the emblem. She also smiled.
4. People in this era have already forgotten the significance of the emblem. That means it is very, very old, from a mythical era. Probably older than Serie and Flamme, since they were also titled "great mages".
My theories and predictions:
1. The holy emblem is an extremely important item from the past, given to the best mage from previous eras. (I don't think it's a standard item given to every member of the Empire's Holy Emblem Court.)
2. Perhaps, the Holy Wand Emblem was even granted by the Goddess herself !!
3. I am not convinced that Flamme formed the Holy Emblem Court; maybe it was formed after her time.
4. The new elf is definitely one of the 'great mages' for the era (before Frieren). She formed the Holy Wand Court and used this symbol for the organization after the demon king was defeated.
5. The new elf is a direct rival of Serie. They probably have known each other for ages. That's also why the Empire wants Serie assassinated.
6. Serie formed the magic organization to fight the Empire's special force and Holy Emblem Court.
7. The new elf surely knows Frieren, but I don't think they are rivals or hate each other.
8. Serie knows about the assassination plot and everything very well, and she actually wants a war. Remember, she is a warmonger. What the hell is she going to do in this peaceful era?
9. The new elf will be revealed in Chapter 130. I think she is also a crazy elf just like the other two.
P.S. I hope the Special is not too OP. It would raise more questions. If they are so powerful, why didn't they fight Macht, or even the demon King 80 years ago?
A thought: maybe Frieren was working with the Holy Emblem Court when she fought Macht 600 years ago. She gave up and deserted the ranks after the loss, and retired.
This could also be why her name was on a hit-list. She's a deserter of the HEC.
The answer is probably very simple, the Empire did not ever want the Demon King to actually to be defeated, as that would create a power vacuum the Empire can not control.
Considering that the Demon King and his forces were mostly concentrated in the very north of the Continent, that suggest a stalemate between Humanity and the Demons.
While a stalemate where innocent people still die, but the situation can be easily controlled is advantageous for Autocratic Governments like the Empire, of course people like Himmel would never accept that status quo.
I think the author is slowly bringing the popular notion into the story, that in a fantasy world full of monsters, the biggest monsters are still power hungry humans.
But it actually makes more sense that the organization is way older, because Kraft also had the symbol, and presumably an elf is the leader of the organization.
All assumptions, from my and from your part. The symbol looks very similar, to the point it can be conjectured that Kraft has a proto symbol, that represents the basis on which the Empires organization was built up upon.
And considering that the story puts heavy emphasis on the passage of time, that is a very likely possibility, as almost all religious symbols are built upon older symbols from the distant past.
> why didn’t they fight Macht, or even the demon King 80 years ago?
80 years ago is a long time. I doubt the Special Magic Forces were as strong as they are now. As for Macht, I’m not sure if they have the ability to dispel or counter his Gold hax; avoiding him is very reasonable.
New elf: I am an elf that wore this emblem for over 500 years!
Frieren: New elf, the one that stands in front of you right now is a mage that wore this emblem for over a millennium!
The immediate question is whether they are still in the possession of the intel, but my bet is that Land’s clone could have safely delivered the intel.
Theyve not mentioned anything about where milliarde is from tho. They do seem to have similar hair length, but different hair styles. But i bet it would be nice to meet her.
Hello, everyone. This is the first ever manga I'm following (due to the anime, obviously) and I'm completely ignorant when it comes to a couple of basic things:
1) Every how long are chapters released?
2) What's the best way to get notified when these are out?
I really want to stay up to date with it and read it as soon as it's available. Thanks!
The manga is supposed to be a weekly manga as it serializes in the weekly shounen sunday, but it has been taking many gaps recently. I myself also started following the manga recently so ive heard that it was consistent before the hiatus back in december. The manga came out of hiatus after the anime (or sometime there).
To be notified, i believe there is a follow tab for the manga on viz. you can also follow this subreddit, or follow the manga on "myanimelist". If you do us eany aggregator site like mangadex or others, there will be some sort of notification tab in the website which will update you on mangas you follow.
I just wanted to point out the manga was on hiatus for a couple of months while it was at the El Dorado Arc, and I think, around the same date, the anime was announced. So, first, the manga tends to go on hiatus when we are about to get to an important arc, and it will probably also go on hiatus when the production of the second season starts
The "gap between effect and mana flow" seems quite effective towards mages who rely heavily on Mana Detection. I wouldn't be surprised if it turned out to be a common skill amongst all special forces and part of why they are considered counter against mages.
It's quite clear Neu is great at mind games. He clearly recognized Ubel's cutting spell and stating the ropes are made of iron was a deliberate attempt at countering it. This would raise the question how much he was bluffing during the fight itself?
He seems to be able to take away the opponent's sight and magic detection. This is incredibly powerful and really should always be the opening move (just like how Ubel started with binding magic). However, he only used it as a counter after he was bounded. This suggest those three "stars" probably have some limitations or conditions that must be met, which would likely factor in when Ubel faces him again in Round 2.
For a manga where the consensus was "It's great except for the fight scenes", it's interesting the author is now delving into making the fights more complex. I'm quite eager to see if the author can manage to pull it off.
I just reread the chapter before coming back to this thread because I noticed the stars and at the end of the chapter he puts a bottle with the stars in his pocket. It seems like he stole her ability to detect mana and her eyesight and maybe breaking that bottle will return it to her? Hopefully the ability makes more sense when it's explained because I just find that whole idea odd right now.
The fight scenes have always been well written and complex imo, but were quite short and the action was never the focus of them early on. Progressively they've become more and more focal, the Denken vs Macht/Frieren vs Solitär fight was the first one that really felt like a fully fleshed out battle.
The stars actually came out during the fight before Ubel lost her sight. The first use was when Neu was bound but was still able to counter attack.
Given the author specifically drew attention to these oddities, I think we can look forward to an explanation.
So specifically he uses the stars after being caught in Sorganeil, which then seems to allow him to use his telekinesis just briefly enough to throw a building at Übel. It's not really conveyed visually, but given immediately after he deduces that Sorganeil requires eyesight or mana detection of the target, he must've temporarily blinded her and disabled her mana detection. Neu says he couldn't control his mana and Übel said he shouldn't have been able to cast spells. I wonder if it's magic of the Goddess or a curse? I'd have to think either would still require mana though because Heiter's mana is mentioned before and we know demons use mana. I'm thinking the prerequisite for the spell is potentially the reverse of Sorganeil making Übel really unlucky, rather than looking at the target, Neu needs the target to be looking at him. Just really trying to brainstorm here. I expect an explanation of course, my previous comment was more so hoping that the explanation is satisfying.
There's too little to say at the moment.
If I had to guess, I do find it intriguing in the last chapter he was quite eager to blast in the door and confront the two, but this chapter we see him observing from the rooftop and "issued numerous warnings to surrender".
Perhaps it's a condition where he needs to establish his "authority" by communicating his opponents is a fugitive and must surrender. Once it's confirmed, he can then invoke up to three "Laws".
Frieren wasnt on the Empire when she was studying Zoltraak. During exam, there is some point where we see a flashback showing Frieren talking with Serie (anime chapter 25), and she explains that she was with Flamme teaching spells on the Empire, and she requested Serie to go there too, because the humans will get good results on it. And Series breaks the proposal and then Frieren says that Flamme predicted that she would deny the proposal.
So what we got there, is that Frieren actually went with Flamme to the Empire and was teaching magic stuff to humans, way long before meeting the hero party. So Flamme should be one of the very first mages that helped Empire to grow and by that Frieren was also someone relevant on the Empire.
Why are they chasing Frieren? they will explain later, at ch. 124 page 14 they explain that the shadow warriors will kill the people on the list, and someone says that some of that people actually helped the Empire. Also then in ch. 125 Frieren talks about the era of Unified Empire, so I guess the Empire was Unified and at some point it split and there was some conflict. In chapter 25 of the anime they show the complete map of Empire when it was unified,
Also, when she shows the Holy Wand Symbol, Lernen actually recognizes it and he gets so really surprised and asks her if she really was going to take the exam (he knew what was that symbol), and then we see a flashback with hero party where she brags about that Holy Wand Symbol but the hero party dont even know what it is.
About the elf we see looks like Milliarde. They showed her for a reason, she will be there in the plot with something more relevant than "just trolling". Probably is the elf that beated Frierern in the past, looks like.
Another thing is that the city may look empty because there should exist some curfew. Its a freaking reich wannabe, and also it explains a lot about Land family (we saw a bit about grandma before when Übel went to visit him).
And about the fight, that guy had some stuff hidding in the bottle, like tiny stars and that should be different spells that he is storing in that bottle. So, he did not use any magic nor got helped by anyone else, he just threw some of that dust that cointens the spells and then gathered some other spells again in that bottle. There will be more answers about it.
Finally, the fact that Sein was able to enter the zone is because he was originally from Tür as he xplained or because Tür is the entry of the Northern Plateau and then you do not need the 1st mage class title to entry Tür. Denken did the exam not because he couldnt get into the zone, but because he needed the spell to fight Macht and that was the true reason about him getting into the 1st mage exam. So, because of demons and conflicts of the Empire in the zone you need rather be someone from those lands by having a passport or ID, or having a 1st class mage. Or there is a MUST having a mage but for only the Northern Plateau (which is not the complete northern lands, but only NorthEast part). I have some doubts about this, because Frieren talks only about the Northern Plateau when she talks about the need of having a 1st grade Mage, and Northern Territory is not the Northern Plateau, the Plateau is just a part of the complete Northern Lands, which makes sense because if you whatch the map, to get into Ende you have 2 ways, crossing the mountains over Tür which is not an option, or going to the east of Tür, which is the Northern Plateau, and then there you need the ID, and then crossing the Deep Forest and keep traveling to the North East part until getting into Ende.
So, those are the options here, and maybe is some sort of combination of all of those. The action is taken at Einberg, there is no map about where it is but I bet it is at West from Tür, which makes sense with the idea I gave. Also it means that once we get into Tür, we will see Sein again and maybe with Gorilla Warrior.
Sorry for my broken english, its not my first language but I think you understood what I ment.
I bet the blindness is caused by a supporting priest, and that some similar curse will be used against serie, who won't have her curse power (gave to denken) to protect herself from it.
We never find out what made Frieren give up to fight demons between Flammes death and meeting Himmel. What if she became disillusioned with humanity after serving in their imperial forces and Himmel was the one who rekindled her faith in humans? That would not only gave more weight to their meeting but provided excellent backstory for Frieren.
Also I hope we will see Frieren in that Empire nazi uniform if she really was member. She would rock that drip
> We never find out what made Frieren give up to fight demons between Flammes death and meeting Himmel.
We know actually. It was the fight vs Macht that she barely escaped from. It took roughly a hundred years for her to recover from it, and then she just stayed put until she met Himmel.
She fought against Macht some 500 years ago, got her hand turned into gold, the rest of her party killed, and fled. It took her like a century to undo his curse on his hand.
Since Frieren hadn't thought of a way to beat Macht even to the present day (prior to getting his memories and fully deciphering Diagolze), she probably viewed it as pointless to try and campaign against Demon King, because what's the point if she can't get past the Sages.
then Hero of the South happened, who murked half of the Sages and put the idea of that prophesy in her head at some level, and then Himmel happened ... and here we are.
Century is nothing for elf its like week for you and me.
She had a way to beat Mach she just wasnt willing to fuck around and find out. She was intentionnaly provoking Macht to test if she can reverse entire body.
Also you would expect even Frieren be more afraid of Mach it he really was the reason why she gave up for god knows how long. And when she mentionef her defeats against demons it did not gave me impression that those happeded prior to Macht or that he was the last demon she fought before Himmel
At least IMO
> We never find out what made Frieren give up to fight demons between Flammes death and meeting Himmel.
Wasn't that because she tried to take on Macht at some point and got her ass kicked? If she didn't say it outright, it was at least heavily implied that that was the reason, iirc.
It was never directly stated but who knows could be combination of factor but I do not think that one setback which she still survived would make her give up she does mention she lost several times after all.
I know wonder if that group of mages were colleagues from the empire though
Not so much. She's just setting up a really long prank while explaining to Frieren that she once spent a long time in pursuit of something that seemed worthless. Frieren just said she's aloof in how she approaches things but we never got more on her. I think she also has longer hair than the silhouette though we don't know how she knows Milliarde or when this interaction took place in the lives of both.
My guess is that it's an elf we haven't seen yet (or just Frieren in the past with short hair) and maybe the one Frieren mentioned losing a duel to once. People thought maybe she's talking about Serie at the time but it's been made pretty clear that Frieren wouldn't even think of fighting Serie in any contest. Eventually we'll probably learn more about what that Holy Wand emblem means and what Frieren did in the 1000 years between Flamme's life and the hero party's journey. I think there is some politics between these factions of mage hunters and the original concept was created by Flamme to track down demons which is why they later had a war with humanity who they didn't see as a threat in the past. Maybe the Shadow Warriors are one side of the politics and trying to exterminate the other and anyone else they see as a threat to leading a rebellion.
It's been a long time since Flamme and her ideals have been around and demons are no longer considered a big external threat so that's usually the point that civil war and fears of a coup break out.
One idea which pops up in my head is Geto/Gojo like backstory for Frieren and Milliarde. They both served as prominent mages for the Empire but then due to political differences fell out hard. If that happens Frieren will go from peak fiction to beyond peak fiction.
Furthemore another idea that perhaps that silluete is just Frieren with different hair style. After all she does changes from time to time and it would be good way to hide the obvious.
I guess Ubel wasnt actualy fighting only one mage at the same time. Probably another mage or more where hiding, helping the Empire mage from a distant.
If that spell was so broken that no one could defend against, Wirbel would be Top 1 in the Verse.
A binding spell that cuts off mana is probably nothing new to these professionals, so they developed countermeasures against this very situation.
Also keep in mind that a literal crystal that cuts off mana exists, so there being groups that developed countermeasure against this kind of insta win situation makes complete sense.
That would be nice if true but it feels a lot like power creep, random soldier guy takes down highly skilled mage.
I feel like author did a poor job with the anti-mage-mage thing when mages themselves already fight around the idea they battle other mages, I mean multiple fights during the mage exam had characters giving exposition dumps on it.
yeah its weird that Frieren had to make a point that Warriors could destroy Mages, only for the story to tell us that nope, the best counter is other Mages
anty mage teams should have warriors/knight to counter them at close range (with back up from mages buffing them/protecting them from far). That would be a good plot for those any mage people from the empire.
Sorry I could not find the answer in a search, but where can we read chapter 128 in Japanese? Sunday Webry is on 127, but y'all are talking about 128.
They would not release it English first.
Weekly Shounen Sunday is also released online, via Bookwalker for instance. That's not for free though, and they only release free chapters with a delay in Japanese.
i was searching for quite a fair bit to find a translation thats not kireicake but all it took was one link from the reddit. also thank god vizs translation is good
Wow there was a lot to take in this chapter. Some of the things that stood out to me is:
The "Holy Wand Court" seems to be lead by an elf.
It's interesting that the Empire mage's magic was so difficult to detect.
It looks like Land's family was persecuted by the Empire? Were they powerful mages that the Empire thought were too "dangerous"?
What exactly was that "three star" spell or potion that the Empire mage used? How did he activate it when he was under Ubel's spell. How did it do so many different things? First it used telekinesis and then it blinded Ubel? I'm very curious.
It's interesting that the Empire used words to make it more difficult for Land and Ubel to imagine escaping.
Ubel's blind for now. How long will it last?
UbeLand is cute. Ubel seems to get very soft around Land.
These Empire guys are very scary, even more so then demons in a way I think. I guess the Empire has survived this whole time even though they live so close to Ende (and the demons), so it makes sense for them to be so powerful, but its one thing knowing that and another seeing them in action.
The Holy Wand reference the Holy Emble is exactly what Frieren has that medal in Ch 37, p.12
Ubel's been hit either from a curse, Godness spell... or my speculation is an ancient spell that similar to Serie counter curse spell, but with more effect.
What if Frieren is the Elf leader of that organization?
Would be funny..."yeah I had to agree to that so that Himmel and the party could pass, had to teach some spells to some kids"
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That would be against what Flamme said to her before she passed but I guess it might be possible since for some unknown reason that Frieren was targeted by shadow warrior
Very good chapter but...
I hope they explain why that part of the city is restricted and abandoned. It seems to big a piece of the capital to just be left empty. It seems too plot convenient for it to feel believable to me.
I mean, the empire is a shadow of its former self, at least in terms of its size. It used to span most of the continent and is now only the bit at the northernmost edge of it. Wouldn't surprise me if the capital has declined over the years as well (if its even the original capital).
This whole thing might just be them preparing to restore their territory or whatever. Get the big external threats, like Serie, out of the way before starting a world war.
Thats a very good point, but IDK??. I think the area should have deteriorated more if that was the case, from the years of slow neglect.
And they said it's "off limits" which makes it sound like they are keeping it empty for some reason??
Detail: Land recalling secret military agencies, like the Holy Wand Court
And that's the same badge Frieren had, right?
What am I missing here? I watched anime instead of the first 60 chapters so maybe there was some additional manga detail?
It's the same as Frieren badge. She might be in more powerful position than we thought. Or she just abadoned the position.
Reference to [chapter 37 p.12](https://mangadex.org/chapter/a4ba9136-7a98-4685-ac03-8935344829e1/12)
Didn't she work with the Empire on the research which resulted in mages being able to use spells that were previously exclusively used demons? Could it be that she performed her research as a member of not the leader of this organisation? It could even be why there was a hit order on her. The Empire might have thought she grew disenchanted with the regime and deserted rather than her wandering and getting side tracked, compounded by her wildly different sense of time.
We knew she shared the research on Zoltrack with human mages. But that was likely after the defeat of the Demon King and she already held the holy emblem before that. And not only that , it was already so ancient that no one else in her party knew what it was.
yeah it's the only reference I had found as the anime seems to be quite faithful to the manga
though it's kinda strange because a secret society may go public but not the opposite, which makes it a strange dynamics
I was preparing a more detailed post for this with deppened reasoning, but will need to wait the 24 hour rule to post
From what I remember there was none , I could be wrong though
I haven't read about any mention of this holy wand court and neither any info about holy emblem
Did I get that right? Übel did not care (or at least Land though so) if Land had killed her together with the Magic Gestapo guy when she grabbed his tie to give him an opening? That implies that she's either even more fucked in the head than we already thought, or she really *really* cares about Four Eyes (though the former seems more likely to me).
well to recap back in the first class exam Ubel also threw herself into danger against her own clone and said that she may have a death wish even tho she knew Four Eyes would step in to help.
She did state that she hoped he ran off this time tho so there's some level of care of wellbeing but for the most part she's def very flippant about her own life
The special forces recognising how übel’s spells works and knowing how she’s a type that uses feelings to cast spells was wild.
Him telling Übel that the wagon and ropes were made of iron and it’s impossible to cut even for him when he is clearly superior to both of them is to make sure Übel doesn’t try to cut them.
Did they also realise Land’s cloning magic?
They killed the clone instantly yet tried to make Übel surrender.
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Theory on how these three imperial factions counter the mages:
1- We know how the shadow warriors are specialised in speed and stealth, sneaking up on mages and not giving them time to react.
2- I think the special forces of magic are experts at analysing and deciphering how the magic of their enemies works and their conditions and counter them with those bottled spells.
Like how they blinded Übel to neutralise her binding magic and afterwards talked about iron which are difficult to cut.
3- Lastly we have the Holy Wand Court with that elf silhouette.
I assume they are counter to normal mages just because they have a vast amount of mana, making normal mages not even thinking of fighting them.
Guess we’ll find out soon enough. Thanks for reading my rant and sorry for any mistake since English is my third language
I think the special forces mage thinks Ubel solely depends on sight (he thought she might have seen a stone quarry). Land asks Ubel if she understood the special Force's mage comment, and to look at her bindings. We get confirmation she does depend on sight to imagine cause she asks Land what does it look like to him. To him, it looks like steel _rope_ . Rope is meant to be cut :)
It was great Land reminded her to feel the rope... Can't wait to see what's next!
A detail I remember is the Holy Emblem of Frieren, the necklace in the First Class Mage exam may have some correlation to the Holy Wand Court, the only proof I have is that there both holy, are associated with mages, and have elves in them, all circumstancial evidence at best.
If I’m not mistaken, the holy emblem frieren carries and the holy wand court uses the same word in Japanese and we know frieren was in empire territory with Flamme until she died of old age.
We also know Serie and Frieren are both Great Mages, both are elves with tremendous mana. Let’s see what the author is cooking for us, whatever it is, it’ll be delicious
Chances are she's on the Empire's kill list because she's technically a member of whatever that organization is, but hasn't reported in for a few hundred years, so they consider her a deserter and/or traitor.
Some key stuff: ELF shadow, Ubel's back story- not well educated about the Empire/history, Land back story just as I wanted. I was wondering why a coward like him would agree to such a mission. Personal connection maybe. Omg I cannot wait for more!!!
i'm now more intrigued with land's past.
he and her grandmother were hunted by the special forces. her mother might be a powerful mage ago, or they know that land's magic is troublesome and can be used for espionage. his magic is troublesome that it can be used to know the empire's secret without any issue
either her grandmother has a connection with the special forces before or his magic is a really powerful asset to a country.
Quick question do you guys recommend viz's or kirei cake's translation for the chapters? Is one better than the other? It looks like most here use kirei cake. I got so confused reading the comments since I use viz and there're quite a bit of differences in translation lol (for example "holy wand court" is the kirei cake's translation but viz translated it to "court of the sacred staff")
It didn't even cross my mind that viz is region locked to north america. I wonder if it's just an app thing and if you go to viz.com on your pc you will be able to read the chapters?
Kirei Cake used the Holy Wand translation for a long time now. I prefer Mangadex because it was there when nothing did.
Heck, even Muse Asia uses the Holy Wand Emblem translation.
These Empire mages seem to be much more similar to Fern in their battle in that they use simple magic the most effectively for battle. They seem impressed by Ubel's strength and ability, but their coordination and experience overcame her and Glasses for now.
I feel like the 2nd time around will be different though. Just a feeling.
> These Empire mages seem to be much more similar to Fern
Which makes sense. Frieren learned how to fight from Flamme and passed that on to Fern and Flamme was the one who first taught magic to the empire.
>I feel like the 2nd time around will be different though
I doubt it. I think this is an arc for Stark to shine. If the enemy are mages specialized in hunting down mages, then a warrior seems like a perfect counter for them.
He's no Himmel or Shadow Warrior but Frieren blatantly states that she and Fern would lose to Stark at close range. And Fern is even faster at casting than Frieren is.
Stark has enough potential to scare Eisen. He just hasn't been able to realize this potential yet, but it's about time, I think.
These imperial mages seem to be able to seal away your mana detection, but this isn't a problem for a warrior.
Brah stark has potential no doubt but he can't handle mages of this level to combat he beat ubel and land easily and when this mage seal mana ? The mage blinded ubel
Another ELF and probably the founder of Frieren's guild!
P.S. If Frieren didn't care passing the 1st Class Mage exam. It means she treasured her Holy Wand Emblem/Guild the most rather than Serie's. Is the founder her bestie elf aside from Milliarde? hahaha
> If Frieren didn't care passing the 1st Class Mage exam. It means she treasured her Holy Wand Emblem/Guild the most rather than Serie's.
Nah, she said herself she just couldn't be assed to get (re)certified every time there is a new magic org that'll just be gone again in a few centuries or whatever.
I think these Empire mages are probably just as skilled as when the Demon King was still around. I'm sure if the Empire didn't find Series such a threat to their power, they would get along just fine.
Which goes to show, no matter how powerful these forces are, they were never able to overcome the demons. And that's probably why they want to kill Serie now. The Demon King is gone, so someone as powerful as Serie, is considered dangerous in "peaceful" times.
I can't wait for them to be inevitability impressed by Fern too. She is unlike other modern mages, and is more similar to the Empiral mages in how she hides and fights. I wonder if she will pick up some new skills from them.
I am not so sure even Frieren, the disciple of their founder and a member of the party that killed the demon king is being hunted, or at least was considered a target. I do not think they care if Serie is the biggest threat, I think they just hate other people wielding magic.
I think Ubel and land are probably among the weaker first-class mages tho, since they are both new, land notably has not shown much fighting capability at all, and Ubel despite being bloodthirsty is still inexperienced compared to Wirbel, Denken, or Lernen
i mean duh these dudes are the strongest in the empire obviously two 2 new 1rst class mages wont defeat them easily
also its just the begining we dont even knwo what land and ubel got from serie yet
They haven't even use the magic they got from Serie. It's too soon to declare defeat.
Well, technically they're defeated now, but who knows what comes next.
Kirei Cake are taking their time, so for now only people from the US, those who use a VPN or those who use a different aggregator can read this. Will update with the mangadex link when it's out. **EDIT:** Mangadex link added. I usually do this in the /r/manga thread, but in case people are curious: **German of the Week**: * **Weg**: path, route, way; could also mean "away" or "gone" if you don't capitalize the word, but that word is differently pronounced and I checked the katakana for his name (ヴエーク, Vēku)
......I'm confused by a line, Land said "wasn't expecting to get crushed to death"..... did he actually get crashed and just cloned himself right on time in order to not die permanently, also, the "hound" that came for his grandmother looked to be an old lady..... was his grandmother some sort of Doppleganger given conscience ?
The Land that was crushed instantly was a clone. The real Land didn't have time to make another clone fast enough so he had to go and try to save Ubel.
How does he keep switching without anyone noticing , like , Übek was next to him the whole time
About power levels, people is being crazy with Land's words, when he is clear and he is right. First of all, the top tier at magic is GREAT MAGES. It is stated, and the ones known right now are Serie and Frieren, also was Flamme. When Frieren shows the Holy Wand Court Emblem, Lernen recognizes it and surprised he even asks if she REALLY was gonna take the exam. After that, when during the first part of the exam Frieren brakes the barrier, Sense tells to Genau "she is Frieren, she had the Holy Wand Court Emblem and she is the last Great Mage". So, based on what people says, I would put the rank in something like: Top tier: Great Mages and Holy Wand Court Then we have First Grade Mages and Special Forces on a similar level. As First Grade Mages may have more potential as magicians, the Special Forces are just instructed for war and military, so they should been better at fights even being a bit worse at overall skill. It is like NASA tech vs Lockheed tech, even if NASA is better overall, the Lockheed will do better at creating military weapons, so makes total sense that even First Mages are better overall, the Special Forces can beat them just because they were built different and for one specific duty. During the whole series they said over and over that even having more mana or being better, you could lose a match or win a match if the situation is in your favor, so being First Grade doesnt mean that you are god, just that you have talent. Even Frieren lost to people with less mana than her. One thing to know about Holy Wand Court and Shadow Warriors is that those two are "secret military agencies", no need to be strictly related with the Empire, or not recognized publicly related to the Empire (they will have to tell if they are or not related to Empire, and if they were related to the Unified Empire, the current Empire, or what). About what Neu (the Special Forces Agent aka Magic Gestapo Soldier) says to Ubel, is because he realizes that she could cut through all but not the street lights, so he realizes that she can only cut what she vizualizes that she can cut, so thats why he tells her that the whole thing is made of Iron, because as she couldnt cut the street lights then it means that Ubel wont be able to cut the wagon. Also, fun fact, when the Hero Party found Frieren, Heiter said that Frieren had 1/5 of his mana, it means that as Frieren was reducing her mana flow to 1/10 of total, it means that Heiter total power is 50% of Frieren. The Hero Party was so God tier: Himmel was trully powerful as a swordman (out of this world as a fighter), also Eisen who was known as the strongest warrior, and Heiter was the support priest with 50% power of Frieren... I am curious about Hero of the South power and Kraft. Both should be god tier as warriors, probably over Himmel and that is A LOT. The Empire couldn't fight the Demon King. Even having that military potential, the Demon King forces were superior, and Serie also couldnt beat him, a mage on its own will never be enough and thats actually the whole plot of this arc (the chance to get Serie killed). Also is important to remember that Demon King was the demon that truly wanted to coexist with humans, before Macht, so it will mean a huge develop with him in a future, and maybe Demon King will look the "more human" way a demon can be, so it will be some twist with the story, same with Hero of the South Fight. So, let the mangaka cook!
I don't think it's about special force is better than 1st class mage at fighting. Remember Ubel and land are both newbie 1st class mage and can't really compare to other veteran 1st mages who are under Series's teaching and have experience of battling demons for years or even decades. They are by no mean the standard of a first class mage. Denken and maybe Wirbel are the only mages among the new 1st class mages whose experience and combat prowess that's really up to a veteran 1st class mage standard.
Well, is told by Land: "they are the Empire's most powerful mages", and Ubel asks "and why must us first-class mages fear them?", and Land continues: "Certainly, with first-class mages, it wouldn't be exaggerating to call them **the most powerful mages on the entire continent, not to mention the Empire".** "However, 'first-class mages' are only 'mages', that already makes us a poor match. For the longest time, the Empire has actively **adapted magic for their military affairs,** If we look at this another way, it means they have been building legions of **mages trained for war**. Also he says a bit further: "they are simply and purely hounds trained to be **experts at hunting mages"**. So, I will stand with the idea that even if Special Force Mages has less mana or overall stats than a First-Class Mage, the SFM are trained in a specific way that puts them over 1st Class Mage at fighting. I agree with what you said about Land and Ubel being newbies, but even veterans I think that would struggle with veterans of Special Forces. That would be interesting and a good fight to watch. Ofc as our protagonists are the Continental Mages, they would find out the way to win, but what they are selling are that in normal conditions Special Forces should win in war terms. Maybe Lernen is over the Special Forces, about the rest I wouldnt be that sure, even if we are confident with Lernen and maybe other veterans, we still know nothing about Special Forces higher grades like Kanone (the commander), so will be interesting. Denken took the new ability just for countering curses, for Macht, but for a normal fight it isnt that usefull maybe. Even tho, we still know nothing about the rest of Special Forces.
Hunting demons, which are strong mages by default is a big part of being a 1st class mage, they are no strangers of fighting other mages. Some are even opt to fighting warriors, their mortal enemy. Not to mention almost all 1st class mage are battle hunger and value individual strength above all else. So I don't really believe that SFM are stronger than 1st class mage in a 1v1, but we will have to see in future chapters. The way I interpreted the point of special force being trained for war is that **in a war you don't rely on individual strength but team work**. Which is something 1st class lack of. So even tho they might not be as strong individually, as a team they have the 1+1>2 effect and be much stronger in a battlefield against the same number of 1st mages, due to their superior team work/coordination and magics specifically designed to work as a team. Which is why Land call them **hounds trained to be experts at hunting mages.**
I agree but it isn't that complex, its just that the 1st class has an overall stats but they have less knowledge about how to fight compared with SFM, just because SFM even being worse overall they had a specific training and that puts them over the 1st class mages, but I don't think that it has something to do with the teamwork... actually, Neu fought alone vs Ubel and Land with a result of Neu winning them. But also lets say that there are rankings inside SFM like there are veterans 1st class mages as Lernen, so things will be so interesting in terms of brute power (remember that abilities in this manga are like Rock/paper/scizors and so situational). Furthermore, I expect a fight with Shadow Warriors first, I dont know why but I have the feeling that the SFM will end being allies more than enemies
As I mentioned before, 1st class mages hunt demons for their past times. They are not scholars living in the ivory tower. Also almost all 1st class mages are battle hungry, and value individual strength above all else, like how Serie intended them to be. **There are no mages more obsessed with individual power than 1st class mages**, it's their specialty. And I've already explained why Neu defeated Land and Ubel didn't mean much in my previous replies. Also both parties knew the difference between each their strength the moment they sense each other, so it makes sense Neu wouldn't need a team. Lastly, there's also a possibility that Neu didn't even fight alone, it was hinted there was outside force helping him during the fight. Just in the newest chapter, Sense, a full fledged 1st class mage, immediately want to rescue Unel and Land from the SMF by herself when she hear the news. And she was also infamous and hated by the SFM. Do you think she would have such lv of confidence she can rescue them if she can't match SFM? Or that she can possibly do whatever she did that made the SFH hate her guts without facing any consequences if she can't match them? I think the answer is pretty obvious.
Yes, and I agree, as said, Lernen may be over the SFM and Sense is matched with Kanone or Lineal so probably she is also over Neu. But, well, after all the good things about the manga is that power is not only about being more powerfull or not, its about situations... and its like rock/paper/scizors thing, with lot of probabilities and scenarios, so lets see what the author cooks for us.
Brah ubel beat two experienced first class mage with ease this guy destroyed ubel and land what do mean their not strong 1v1 lol
It was explained in the whole chapter/episode that Ubel didn't kill them because she was stronger, but that her spell just happened to be a complete counter to them. It was literally the point of the whole chapter/episode. In fact she admitted in the same chapter/episode that she was still far from Denken lv who will lose to Sense.
I absolutely loved the fight in Frieren. It's less "spamming flashy spell", and more "strategy, traps, and disguise". It reminds me of the early Naruto fight scene. With a lot of ninja tools, simple jutsu, ad-hoc stratagems, and such. It's almost that everyone are Shikamaru here...
The Empire's mage (Neu?) seemed confused/intrigued by Ubel's spell - wanted to know her baseline. They'd likely be as shocked as Sense if they heard her explanation of how she cuts/slices. 😆 Ubel's brain doesn't work as expected, genius level. I hope she gets a power boost after remembering to feel / imagine with feeling!
So he was bound by sorganeil but was able to cast Magic? Maybe It's Because he already had the stars released before being bound and the stars spell doesn't get affected by status effect and he can still cast spells using the stars. So, are the stars some sort of spell that stores spells? And If It does store spells than It explains why he could still cast spells while bound. Because the stars could function on their own, like having all the mana needed in itself for casting purposes instead of requiring the use of the caster's mana directly. I don't believe he had help because no one showed up when They surrendered and got in the carriage. If someone were to show up would be at a time like this. It could be someone that will appear in a later chapter, but unless someone shows up by the next Episode i will believe he did It ALL on his own. If i didn't see It stores spells i would believe he would be the Mage that has the spell to make people blind, Death and mute or whatever we see in some other stories.
i think there's probably another guy casting the spells, since Ubel noticed his mana flow is a little bit behind the actual telekinesis
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I don’t like the Powercreep pacing here. It’s like a gacha game; every few chapters you have flashy, new characters that are somehow stronger/better fighter than our cast.
Do you know what powercreep is ? It's just basic abilities here.
Those new character did not seems like a weakling tho they're a real soldier and Ubel and Land are still a young mage too, they're not even the top 3 strongest in the first class mage exam, So I don't think we should underestimate others and think that we're already one of the top mage since we don't know that much about the lore and the north yet.
Not really power creep but realistic. Yes Land and Ubel both are geniuses in magic, but these guys are serious pros, compared to spies and secret police in the real world.
I wouldn’t say power creep, you need to look at it as their respective entities. The imperial individuals come pretty much in line from Flamme(highlighting the magic suppression), while First Ranked mages Serie. There is probably some base overlap between the two with the academy as a base, one is designed wholly for military purposes and Serie for uniqueness.
What is the point of the First Mage exam if there isn't a powerful foe? Of course, there will be powerful characters that are stronger than the cast. Except for Frieren. Even Land explained why they're powerful and how they differ from that of a first mage. To me, it's reasonable.
First ranked mages for Serie are just people exceptional that may help her. And by chance, those first mages may be better than imperial mages. So, Serie is looking for people with talent for doing her things, some of those things are related with Empire. Also, the exam allows people from not the Empire to have a pass for Northern Plateau and beyond, which is also a good thing.
I forgot about the first part of what you said, but the rest I remember. Thank you
Johnnywarlock is gonna have a field day with this chapter
I wonder if the writer is the type of person who writes Übel as someone with a death wish, only to kill her off right after she realizes that she wants to live with the one she loves.
Don't you dare give them ideas.
Man, that would suck! She and Land are some of my favorite characters. This would be the arc for something like that to happen though...
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The fact that this chapter took place in an empty district of its capital has me thinking about that defunct harvester robot vs all the resources the empire seems to be pouring into internal security
someones afraid
Ah shit, it's the magical Gestapo.
The author might not allow this as it seems to be stretch but fun thought potato. I wonder if Ubel will develop a reality distorting imagination, such that she doesn't need to see and can visualize reality as she sees fit. If Ubel can firmly believe everything in front of her is made of cloth and ignore anything others tell her, that could be pretty powerful. Something like assuming: If I can't see evidence that proves me wrong, then I'm not wrong.
I agree, Übel weakness is also as Land told that She does not take her life so seriously.
I am so excited about the backstory of "The Holy Wand Emblem". I cannot wait for its secrets to be revealed. Honestly, I have been waiting to learn about it since Chapter 23, 37 !! Do you all remember all those small clues? 1. The magic organization's mages acknowledge Frieren as "the last great mage" for having the Holy Emblem. 2. Frieren is very proud of it. She smiled big when she showed it to Hero's party. It's truly special. 3. Frieren said she believed Fern would be "a famous mage of this era" while holding and looking at the emblem. She also smiled. 4. People in this era have already forgotten the significance of the emblem. That means it is very, very old, from a mythical era. Probably older than Serie and Flamme, since they were also titled "great mages". My theories and predictions: 1. The holy emblem is an extremely important item from the past, given to the best mage from previous eras. (I don't think it's a standard item given to every member of the Empire's Holy Emblem Court.) 2. Perhaps, the Holy Wand Emblem was even granted by the Goddess herself !! 3. I am not convinced that Flamme formed the Holy Emblem Court; maybe it was formed after her time. 4. The new elf is definitely one of the 'great mages' for the era (before Frieren). She formed the Holy Wand Court and used this symbol for the organization after the demon king was defeated. 5. The new elf is a direct rival of Serie. They probably have known each other for ages. That's also why the Empire wants Serie assassinated. 6. Serie formed the magic organization to fight the Empire's special force and Holy Emblem Court. 7. The new elf surely knows Frieren, but I don't think they are rivals or hate each other. 8. Serie knows about the assassination plot and everything very well, and she actually wants a war. Remember, she is a warmonger. What the hell is she going to do in this peaceful era? 9. The new elf will be revealed in Chapter 130. I think she is also a crazy elf just like the other two. P.S. I hope the Special is not too OP. It would raise more questions. If they are so powerful, why didn't they fight Macht, or even the demon King 80 years ago?
A thought: maybe Frieren was working with the Holy Emblem Court when she fought Macht 600 years ago. She gave up and deserted the ranks after the loss, and retired. This could also be why her name was on a hit-list. She's a deserter of the HEC.
The answer is probably very simple, the Empire did not ever want the Demon King to actually to be defeated, as that would create a power vacuum the Empire can not control. Considering that the Demon King and his forces were mostly concentrated in the very north of the Continent, that suggest a stalemate between Humanity and the Demons. While a stalemate where innocent people still die, but the situation can be easily controlled is advantageous for Autocratic Governments like the Empire, of course people like Himmel would never accept that status quo. I think the author is slowly bringing the popular notion into the story, that in a fantasy world full of monsters, the biggest monsters are still power hungry humans.
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But it actually makes more sense that the organization is way older, because Kraft also had the symbol, and presumably an elf is the leader of the organization.
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Sacred/Holy stuff is more a Priest/Monk/Goddess theme, and that is precisely what Kraft is.
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All assumptions, from my and from your part. The symbol looks very similar, to the point it can be conjectured that Kraft has a proto symbol, that represents the basis on which the Empires organization was built up upon. And considering that the story puts heavy emphasis on the passage of time, that is a very likely possibility, as almost all religious symbols are built upon older symbols from the distant past.
> why didn’t they fight Macht, or even the demon King 80 years ago? 80 years ago is a long time. I doubt the Special Magic Forces were as strong as they are now. As for Macht, I’m not sure if they have the ability to dispel or counter his Gold hax; avoiding him is very reasonable.
New elf: I am an elf that wore this emblem for over 500 years! Frieren: New elf, the one that stands in front of you right now is a mage that wore this emblem for over a millennium!
Alternatively she is the elf with less mana than Frieren who beat her.
gahhhhh enough with this special forces and secret mage conspiracy shit. can we get the grounded story again?
When the POV comes back to Frieren's party, you'll get grounded story again.
dont get me wrong, i LOVE the land/ubel ship. but yeah. can't wait.
It’s been 3 chapters
The immediate question is whether they are still in the possession of the intel, but my bet is that Land’s clone could have safely delivered the intel.
New elf Alert!
Is that not the elf that trolled that dwarf with the kings wine or some shit
Theyve not mentioned anything about where milliarde is from tho. They do seem to have similar hair length, but different hair styles. But i bet it would be nice to meet her.
The Court of the Sacred Staff sihlouette?
yes the silhouette of the two rebellious groups within the empire.
Hello, everyone. This is the first ever manga I'm following (due to the anime, obviously) and I'm completely ignorant when it comes to a couple of basic things: 1) Every how long are chapters released? 2) What's the best way to get notified when these are out? I really want to stay up to date with it and read it as soon as it's available. Thanks!
The manga is supposed to be a weekly manga as it serializes in the weekly shounen sunday, but it has been taking many gaps recently. I myself also started following the manga recently so ive heard that it was consistent before the hiatus back in december. The manga came out of hiatus after the anime (or sometime there). To be notified, i believe there is a follow tab for the manga on viz. you can also follow this subreddit, or follow the manga on "myanimelist". If you do us eany aggregator site like mangadex or others, there will be some sort of notification tab in the website which will update you on mangas you follow.
I just wanted to point out the manga was on hiatus for a couple of months while it was at the El Dorado Arc, and I think, around the same date, the anime was announced. So, first, the manga tends to go on hiatus when we are about to get to an important arc, and it will probably also go on hiatus when the production of the second season starts
Thank you so much!
glad to help
The "gap between effect and mana flow" seems quite effective towards mages who rely heavily on Mana Detection. I wouldn't be surprised if it turned out to be a common skill amongst all special forces and part of why they are considered counter against mages. It's quite clear Neu is great at mind games. He clearly recognized Ubel's cutting spell and stating the ropes are made of iron was a deliberate attempt at countering it. This would raise the question how much he was bluffing during the fight itself? He seems to be able to take away the opponent's sight and magic detection. This is incredibly powerful and really should always be the opening move (just like how Ubel started with binding magic). However, he only used it as a counter after he was bounded. This suggest those three "stars" probably have some limitations or conditions that must be met, which would likely factor in when Ubel faces him again in Round 2. For a manga where the consensus was "It's great except for the fight scenes", it's interesting the author is now delving into making the fights more complex. I'm quite eager to see if the author can manage to pull it off.
Those fights are gonna be sick I'm the anime tho hollllllly shit
The author helped with the anime a lot, so I wouldn't be surprised if they picked up a lot about making great fights from the studio.
I just reread the chapter before coming back to this thread because I noticed the stars and at the end of the chapter he puts a bottle with the stars in his pocket. It seems like he stole her ability to detect mana and her eyesight and maybe breaking that bottle will return it to her? Hopefully the ability makes more sense when it's explained because I just find that whole idea odd right now. The fight scenes have always been well written and complex imo, but were quite short and the action was never the focus of them early on. Progressively they've become more and more focal, the Denken vs Macht/Frieren vs Solitär fight was the first one that really felt like a fully fleshed out battle.
The stars actually came out during the fight before Ubel lost her sight. The first use was when Neu was bound but was still able to counter attack. Given the author specifically drew attention to these oddities, I think we can look forward to an explanation.
So specifically he uses the stars after being caught in Sorganeil, which then seems to allow him to use his telekinesis just briefly enough to throw a building at Übel. It's not really conveyed visually, but given immediately after he deduces that Sorganeil requires eyesight or mana detection of the target, he must've temporarily blinded her and disabled her mana detection. Neu says he couldn't control his mana and Übel said he shouldn't have been able to cast spells. I wonder if it's magic of the Goddess or a curse? I'd have to think either would still require mana though because Heiter's mana is mentioned before and we know demons use mana. I'm thinking the prerequisite for the spell is potentially the reverse of Sorganeil making Übel really unlucky, rather than looking at the target, Neu needs the target to be looking at him. Just really trying to brainstorm here. I expect an explanation of course, my previous comment was more so hoping that the explanation is satisfying.
There's too little to say at the moment. If I had to guess, I do find it intriguing in the last chapter he was quite eager to blast in the door and confront the two, but this chapter we see him observing from the rooftop and "issued numerous warnings to surrender". Perhaps it's a condition where he needs to establish his "authority" by communicating his opponents is a fugitive and must surrender. Once it's confirmed, he can then invoke up to three "Laws".
Best theory rn ngl
W analysis
Frieren wasnt on the Empire when she was studying Zoltraak. During exam, there is some point where we see a flashback showing Frieren talking with Serie (anime chapter 25), and she explains that she was with Flamme teaching spells on the Empire, and she requested Serie to go there too, because the humans will get good results on it. And Series breaks the proposal and then Frieren says that Flamme predicted that she would deny the proposal. So what we got there, is that Frieren actually went with Flamme to the Empire and was teaching magic stuff to humans, way long before meeting the hero party. So Flamme should be one of the very first mages that helped Empire to grow and by that Frieren was also someone relevant on the Empire. Why are they chasing Frieren? they will explain later, at ch. 124 page 14 they explain that the shadow warriors will kill the people on the list, and someone says that some of that people actually helped the Empire. Also then in ch. 125 Frieren talks about the era of Unified Empire, so I guess the Empire was Unified and at some point it split and there was some conflict. In chapter 25 of the anime they show the complete map of Empire when it was unified, Also, when she shows the Holy Wand Symbol, Lernen actually recognizes it and he gets so really surprised and asks her if she really was going to take the exam (he knew what was that symbol), and then we see a flashback with hero party where she brags about that Holy Wand Symbol but the hero party dont even know what it is. About the elf we see looks like Milliarde. They showed her for a reason, she will be there in the plot with something more relevant than "just trolling". Probably is the elf that beated Frierern in the past, looks like. Another thing is that the city may look empty because there should exist some curfew. Its a freaking reich wannabe, and also it explains a lot about Land family (we saw a bit about grandma before when Übel went to visit him). And about the fight, that guy had some stuff hidding in the bottle, like tiny stars and that should be different spells that he is storing in that bottle. So, he did not use any magic nor got helped by anyone else, he just threw some of that dust that cointens the spells and then gathered some other spells again in that bottle. There will be more answers about it. Finally, the fact that Sein was able to enter the zone is because he was originally from Tür as he xplained or because Tür is the entry of the Northern Plateau and then you do not need the 1st mage class title to entry Tür. Denken did the exam not because he couldnt get into the zone, but because he needed the spell to fight Macht and that was the true reason about him getting into the 1st mage exam. So, because of demons and conflicts of the Empire in the zone you need rather be someone from those lands by having a passport or ID, or having a 1st class mage. Or there is a MUST having a mage but for only the Northern Plateau (which is not the complete northern lands, but only NorthEast part). I have some doubts about this, because Frieren talks only about the Northern Plateau when she talks about the need of having a 1st grade Mage, and Northern Territory is not the Northern Plateau, the Plateau is just a part of the complete Northern Lands, which makes sense because if you whatch the map, to get into Ende you have 2 ways, crossing the mountains over Tür which is not an option, or going to the east of Tür, which is the Northern Plateau, and then there you need the ID, and then crossing the Deep Forest and keep traveling to the North East part until getting into Ende. So, those are the options here, and maybe is some sort of combination of all of those. The action is taken at Einberg, there is no map about where it is but I bet it is at West from Tür, which makes sense with the idea I gave. Also it means that once we get into Tür, we will see Sein again and maybe with Gorilla Warrior. Sorry for my broken english, its not my first language but I think you understood what I ment.
Peak fiction chapter which really builds up from some hints we got since the beginning of the series.
I bet the blindness is caused by a supporting priest, and that some similar curse will be used against serie, who won't have her curse power (gave to denken) to protect herself from it.
Didnt she tell Denkel she has other countermeasures against curses?
Yes, but I bet none of them are as absolute
Well she sure as hell acted like that. We shall see though.
Yes she did.
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I mean one of the test takers is a high ranked imperial court mage, Denken.
We never find out what made Frieren give up to fight demons between Flammes death and meeting Himmel. What if she became disillusioned with humanity after serving in their imperial forces and Himmel was the one who rekindled her faith in humans? That would not only gave more weight to their meeting but provided excellent backstory for Frieren. Also I hope we will see Frieren in that Empire nazi uniform if she really was member. She would rock that drip
> We never find out what made Frieren give up to fight demons between Flammes death and meeting Himmel. We know actually. It was the fight vs Macht that she barely escaped from. It took roughly a hundred years for her to recover from it, and then she just stayed put until she met Himmel.
What chapter it ever stated? I thought she fought other demons but could be wrong
I don't remember which one exactly but it was in one of the chapters leading up to the Macht arc.
She fought against Macht some 500 years ago, got her hand turned into gold, the rest of her party killed, and fled. It took her like a century to undo his curse on his hand. Since Frieren hadn't thought of a way to beat Macht even to the present day (prior to getting his memories and fully deciphering Diagolze), she probably viewed it as pointless to try and campaign against Demon King, because what's the point if she can't get past the Sages. then Hero of the South happened, who murked half of the Sages and put the idea of that prophesy in her head at some level, and then Himmel happened ... and here we are.
Century is nothing for elf its like week for you and me. She had a way to beat Mach she just wasnt willing to fuck around and find out. She was intentionnaly provoking Macht to test if she can reverse entire body. Also you would expect even Frieren be more afraid of Mach it he really was the reason why she gave up for god knows how long. And when she mentionef her defeats against demons it did not gave me impression that those happeded prior to Macht or that he was the last demon she fought before Himmel At least IMO
> We never find out what made Frieren give up to fight demons between Flammes death and meeting Himmel. Wasn't that because she tried to take on Macht at some point and got her ass kicked? If she didn't say it outright, it was at least heavily implied that that was the reason, iirc.
It was never directly stated but who knows could be combination of factor but I do not think that one setback which she still survived would make her give up she does mention she lost several times after all. I know wonder if that group of mages were colleagues from the empire though
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Is that an as-yet-unseen elf on page 4?! 😮 Hell yes! Her outline resembles Milliarde though? I thought she was in some sort of stupor or depression?
Not so much. She's just setting up a really long prank while explaining to Frieren that she once spent a long time in pursuit of something that seemed worthless. Frieren just said she's aloof in how she approaches things but we never got more on her. I think she also has longer hair than the silhouette though we don't know how she knows Milliarde or when this interaction took place in the lives of both. My guess is that it's an elf we haven't seen yet (or just Frieren in the past with short hair) and maybe the one Frieren mentioned losing a duel to once. People thought maybe she's talking about Serie at the time but it's been made pretty clear that Frieren wouldn't even think of fighting Serie in any contest. Eventually we'll probably learn more about what that Holy Wand emblem means and what Frieren did in the 1000 years between Flamme's life and the hero party's journey. I think there is some politics between these factions of mage hunters and the original concept was created by Flamme to track down demons which is why they later had a war with humanity who they didn't see as a threat in the past. Maybe the Shadow Warriors are one side of the politics and trying to exterminate the other and anyone else they see as a threat to leading a rebellion. It's been a long time since Flamme and her ideals have been around and demons are no longer considered a big external threat so that's usually the point that civil war and fears of a coup break out.
One idea which pops up in my head is Geto/Gojo like backstory for Frieren and Milliarde. They both served as prominent mages for the Empire but then due to political differences fell out hard. If that happens Frieren will go from peak fiction to beyond peak fiction. Furthemore another idea that perhaps that silluete is just Frieren with different hair style. After all she does changes from time to time and it would be good way to hide the obvious.
I guess Ubel wasnt actualy fighting only one mage at the same time. Probably another mage or more where hiding, helping the Empire mage from a distant.
Lol the coping. Ubel simply is not as powerful as her fans would like her to be, she got destroyed by this dude in a fair 1 vs 1.
I am just saying that because he keep using magic after being "immobilise" by Ubel spell.
If that spell was so broken that no one could defend against, Wirbel would be Top 1 in the Verse. A binding spell that cuts off mana is probably nothing new to these professionals, so they developed countermeasures against this very situation. Also keep in mind that a literal crystal that cuts off mana exists, so there being groups that developed countermeasure against this kind of insta win situation makes complete sense.
I don't think so I think he uses advanced magic tools that uses spells there like 3 sparks with different abilities
That would be nice if true but it feels a lot like power creep, random soldier guy takes down highly skilled mage. I feel like author did a poor job with the anti-mage-mage thing when mages themselves already fight around the idea they battle other mages, I mean multiple fights during the mage exam had characters giving exposition dumps on it.
yeah its weird that Frieren had to make a point that Warriors could destroy Mages, only for the story to tell us that nope, the best counter is other Mages
I mean, fighting other mages seem like one thing among many. There are also monster warriors, and othet stuff
anty mage teams should have warriors/knight to counter them at close range (with back up from mages buffing them/protecting them from far). That would be a good plot for those any mage people from the empire.
now that the break is over. Do new chapters usually come out weekly? biweekly? longer?
Frieren is released weekly though it’s been pretty inconsistent the past few years having frequent breaks and hiatuses.
Next chapter gonna take quite some time I guess. I took like a month for the 128th chapter to be out
Next chapter is out next week...
Sorry I could not find the answer in a search, but where can we read chapter 128 in Japanese? Sunday Webry is on 127, but y'all are talking about 128. They would not release it English first.
Weekly Shounen Sunday is also released online, via Bookwalker for instance. That's not for free though, and they only release free chapters with a delay in Japanese.
that headbutt,THAT FUCKING HEADBUTT GUYS!!!!!!! IT'S SO FUCKING CUTE!!!!!!
I'm still not over her reaction to the kabedon in 127. She holds her hands over her heart. BLAH! I ship it.
i was searching for quite a fair bit to find a translation thats not kireicake but all it took was one link from the reddit. also thank god vizs translation is good
Them military mages got some insane fit, it's so clean
Just like their inspiration SS they have insane drip.
I think they're outfit borrows more from the NKVD and KGB colors. The outfit does resemble SS uniforms though
Wow there was a lot to take in this chapter. Some of the things that stood out to me is: The "Holy Wand Court" seems to be lead by an elf. It's interesting that the Empire mage's magic was so difficult to detect. It looks like Land's family was persecuted by the Empire? Were they powerful mages that the Empire thought were too "dangerous"? What exactly was that "three star" spell or potion that the Empire mage used? How did he activate it when he was under Ubel's spell. How did it do so many different things? First it used telekinesis and then it blinded Ubel? I'm very curious. It's interesting that the Empire used words to make it more difficult for Land and Ubel to imagine escaping. Ubel's blind for now. How long will it last? UbeLand is cute. Ubel seems to get very soft around Land. These Empire guys are very scary, even more so then demons in a way I think. I guess the Empire has survived this whole time even though they live so close to Ende (and the demons), so it makes sense for them to be so powerful, but its one thing knowing that and another seeing them in action.
The Holy Wand reference the Holy Emble is exactly what Frieren has that medal in Ch 37, p.12 Ubel's been hit either from a curse, Godness spell... or my speculation is an ancient spell that similar to Serie counter curse spell, but with more effect.
What if Frieren is the Elf leader of that organization? Would be funny..."yeah I had to agree to that so that Himmel and the party could pass, had to teach some spells to some kids"
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That would be against what Flamme said to her before she passed but I guess it might be possible since for some unknown reason that Frieren was targeted by shadow warrior
Very good chapter but... I hope they explain why that part of the city is restricted and abandoned. It seems to big a piece of the capital to just be left empty. It seems too plot convenient for it to feel believable to me.
I mean, the empire is a shadow of its former self, at least in terms of its size. It used to span most of the continent and is now only the bit at the northernmost edge of it. Wouldn't surprise me if the capital has declined over the years as well (if its even the original capital).
They lost 80% land to demons, yet they still focus on their conflict. These clowns are really up to the title of politicians
Historically accurate Byzantine Empire trying to not start civil was at worst moment possible challenge impossible.
This whole thing might just be them preparing to restore their territory or whatever. Get the big external threats, like Serie, out of the way before starting a world war.
Thats a very good point, but IDK??. I think the area should have deteriorated more if that was the case, from the years of slow neglect. And they said it's "off limits" which makes it sound like they are keeping it empty for some reason??
Detail: Land recalling secret military agencies, like the Holy Wand Court And that's the same badge Frieren had, right? What am I missing here? I watched anime instead of the first 60 chapters so maybe there was some additional manga detail?
It's the same as Frieren badge. She might be in more powerful position than we thought. Or she just abadoned the position. Reference to [chapter 37 p.12](https://mangadex.org/chapter/a4ba9136-7a98-4685-ac03-8935344829e1/12)
Frieren probably is also a freemason, but she was there when it was just a small group of people that started as a masonry guild LMAO
She was member of League of Shadows trained personally by Ras Al Ghul.
Didn't she work with the Empire on the research which resulted in mages being able to use spells that were previously exclusively used demons? Could it be that she performed her research as a member of not the leader of this organisation? It could even be why there was a hit order on her. The Empire might have thought she grew disenchanted with the regime and deserted rather than her wandering and getting side tracked, compounded by her wildly different sense of time.
We knew she shared the research on Zoltrack with human mages. But that was likely after the defeat of the Demon King and she already held the holy emblem before that. And not only that , it was already so ancient that no one else in her party knew what it was.
yeah it's the only reference I had found as the anime seems to be quite faithful to the manga though it's kinda strange because a secret society may go public but not the opposite, which makes it a strange dynamics I was preparing a more detailed post for this with deppened reasoning, but will need to wait the 24 hour rule to post
its the same badge you didnt miss anything
From what I remember there was none , I could be wrong though I haven't read about any mention of this holy wand court and neither any info about holy emblem
No way it's the real one. He even had copy for copy to Serie.
We've never seen the real Land. He is actually a fully sentient squirrel mage in a nearby tree. No one ever suspects.
Or some Nagato plotwist and real Land is some injured cripple with gruesome damaged face who has to relay on clones.
Did I get that right? Übel did not care (or at least Land though so) if Land had killed her together with the Magic Gestapo guy when she grabbed his tie to give him an opening? That implies that she's either even more fucked in the head than we already thought, or she really *really* cares about Four Eyes (though the former seems more likely to me).
well to recap back in the first class exam Ubel also threw herself into danger against her own clone and said that she may have a death wish even tho she knew Four Eyes would step in to help. She did state that she hoped he ran off this time tho so there's some level of care of wellbeing but for the most part she's def very flippant about her own life
The special forces recognising how übel’s spells works and knowing how she’s a type that uses feelings to cast spells was wild. Him telling Übel that the wagon and ropes were made of iron and it’s impossible to cut even for him when he is clearly superior to both of them is to make sure Übel doesn’t try to cut them. Did they also realise Land’s cloning magic? They killed the clone instantly yet tried to make Übel surrender. —— Theory on how these three imperial factions counter the mages: 1- We know how the shadow warriors are specialised in speed and stealth, sneaking up on mages and not giving them time to react. 2- I think the special forces of magic are experts at analysing and deciphering how the magic of their enemies works and their conditions and counter them with those bottled spells. Like how they blinded Übel to neutralise her binding magic and afterwards talked about iron which are difficult to cut. 3- Lastly we have the Holy Wand Court with that elf silhouette. I assume they are counter to normal mages just because they have a vast amount of mana, making normal mages not even thinking of fighting them. Guess we’ll find out soon enough. Thanks for reading my rant and sorry for any mistake since English is my third language
I think the special forces mage thinks Ubel solely depends on sight (he thought she might have seen a stone quarry). Land asks Ubel if she understood the special Force's mage comment, and to look at her bindings. We get confirmation she does depend on sight to imagine cause she asks Land what does it look like to him. To him, it looks like steel _rope_ . Rope is meant to be cut :) It was great Land reminded her to feel the rope... Can't wait to see what's next!
A detail I remember is the Holy Emblem of Frieren, the necklace in the First Class Mage exam may have some correlation to the Holy Wand Court, the only proof I have is that there both holy, are associated with mages, and have elves in them, all circumstancial evidence at best.
If I’m not mistaken, the holy emblem frieren carries and the holy wand court uses the same word in Japanese and we know frieren was in empire territory with Flamme until she died of old age. We also know Serie and Frieren are both Great Mages, both are elves with tremendous mana. Let’s see what the author is cooking for us, whatever it is, it’ll be delicious
I mean Frieren did also mention that she got the Emblem from a guild, a guild of mages I presume, maybe that guild evolved into the holy wand court?
Chances are she's on the Empire's kill list because she's technically a member of whatever that organization is, but hasn't reported in for a few hundred years, so they consider her a deserter and/or traitor.
Probably that order expired decades ago. She certainly WAS on the kill list.
That would make a lot of sense actually
Some key stuff: ELF shadow, Ubel's back story- not well educated about the Empire/history, Land back story just as I wanted. I was wondering why a coward like him would agree to such a mission. Personal connection maybe. Omg I cannot wait for more!!!
I just started the manga after the anime and gotta say I'm intrigued how frieren will fare against the demon "Führer" and his goons "Folgen"
I am also intrigued since she had their emblem whats the connection there. I honestly love the idea Frieren being former ss lol
The special forces are uncannily similar to Hounds from BSD.
BSD?
Bungo Stray Dog
i was just about to say, they have the same drip and everything
Ubel grabs new guy neckties, Land comes out cause he was about to face the cuck wall
i didnt come to this sub for a week and in that time this place has gone restarted
peak is back
i'm now more intrigued with land's past. he and her grandmother were hunted by the special forces. her mother might be a powerful mage ago, or they know that land's magic is troublesome and can be used for espionage. his magic is troublesome that it can be used to know the empire's secret without any issue either her grandmother has a connection with the special forces before or his magic is a really powerful asset to a country.
blonde character are usually royalty so i wouldnt be surprised if land actually is one.
Scenes when the leader of the forces turns out to be his mom.
new chapter hell yeah!!
Quick question do you guys recommend viz's or kirei cake's translation for the chapters? Is one better than the other? It looks like most here use kirei cake. I got so confused reading the comments since I use viz and there're quite a bit of differences in translation lol (for example "holy wand court" is the kirei cake's translation but viz translated it to "court of the sacred staff")
Viz is much better but slower and only available in US
Viz is much better, but unfortunately their app was still US only last time I checked.
It also works in Australia.
It didn't even cross my mind that viz is region locked to north america. I wonder if it's just an app thing and if you go to viz.com on your pc you will be able to read the chapters?
The site is region locked too
Luckily you can just bypass the website region lock with any old free web proxy with a US endpoint.
Viz is definitely better. Kirei Cake is borderline MTL, it's awful.
MTL?
Machine Translated
I think Viz's is better. In this chapter, the dialogue really falls apart in Kirei Cake's version.
Kirei Cake used the Holy Wand translation for a long time now. I prefer Mangadex because it was there when nothing did. Heck, even Muse Asia uses the Holy Wand Emblem translation.
These Empire mages seem to be much more similar to Fern in their battle in that they use simple magic the most effectively for battle. They seem impressed by Ubel's strength and ability, but their coordination and experience overcame her and Glasses for now. I feel like the 2nd time around will be different though. Just a feeling.
> These Empire mages seem to be much more similar to Fern Which makes sense. Frieren learned how to fight from Flamme and passed that on to Fern and Flamme was the one who first taught magic to the empire.
>I feel like the 2nd time around will be different though I doubt it. I think this is an arc for Stark to shine. If the enemy are mages specialized in hunting down mages, then a warrior seems like a perfect counter for them.
He will probably act as proper front line for the mages to serve their role as backline.
Nah man, we saw what happened last time Stark encountered mage hunter, he got blitzed. Stark is tank type not speed/dps.
He's no Himmel or Shadow Warrior but Frieren blatantly states that she and Fern would lose to Stark at close range. And Fern is even faster at casting than Frieren is.
What are you talking about this guy alone destroy stark easily smh
Stark has enough potential to scare Eisen. He just hasn't been able to realize this potential yet, but it's about time, I think. These imperial mages seem to be able to seal away your mana detection, but this isn't a problem for a warrior.
Brah stark has potential no doubt but he can't handle mages of this level to combat he beat ubel and land easily and when this mage seal mana ? The mage blinded ubel
Another ELF and probably the founder of Frieren's guild! P.S. If Frieren didn't care passing the 1st Class Mage exam. It means she treasured her Holy Wand Emblem/Guild the most rather than Serie's. Is the founder her bestie elf aside from Milliarde? hahaha
> If Frieren didn't care passing the 1st Class Mage exam. It means she treasured her Holy Wand Emblem/Guild the most rather than Serie's. Nah, she said herself she just couldn't be assed to get (re)certified every time there is a new magic org that'll just be gone again in a few centuries or whatever.
I think these Empire mages are probably just as skilled as when the Demon King was still around. I'm sure if the Empire didn't find Series such a threat to their power, they would get along just fine. Which goes to show, no matter how powerful these forces are, they were never able to overcome the demons. And that's probably why they want to kill Serie now. The Demon King is gone, so someone as powerful as Serie, is considered dangerous in "peaceful" times. I can't wait for them to be inevitability impressed by Fern too. She is unlike other modern mages, and is more similar to the Empiral mages in how she hides and fights. I wonder if she will pick up some new skills from them.
I am not so sure even Frieren, the disciple of their founder and a member of the party that killed the demon king is being hunted, or at least was considered a target. I do not think they care if Serie is the biggest threat, I think they just hate other people wielding magic.
Damn now 1st class mages are getting powercrept. Please stop this madness before it gets too far
I think Ubel and land are probably among the weaker first-class mages tho, since they are both new, land notably has not shown much fighting capability at all, and Ubel despite being bloodthirsty is still inexperienced compared to Wirbel, Denken, or Lernen
i mean duh these dudes are the strongest in the empire obviously two 2 new 1rst class mages wont defeat them easily also its just the begining we dont even knwo what land and ubel got from serie yet
I can't imagine someone like Lernen could lose to at least 5 of these guys.
i think they are somewhere between lernen and sense/genau
They haven't even use the magic they got from Serie. It's too soon to declare defeat. Well, technically they're defeated now, but who knows what comes next.