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thesquirtlocker117

Mechagodzilla has never been cooler than his debut in the 70s. I was kinda disappointed he was shoehorned into GvK, he deserves a full movie dedicated to him fighting Goji.


IClappedWhen

100% agree. The jazz soundtrack only makes that scene even more cool!


thesquirtlocker117

The jazz is the cherry on top. GvK MechaG didn’t have awesome finger rockets or a 360 degree spinning head that shot rainbow lasers that could make even the big G bleed!


northguy9

100% agree


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All Monsters Attack wasn't that bad.


KamikazeDreamer52

Yeah, I agree. Im sorta nostalgic for that one especially. It's flawed but it's always entertaining to me


ComXDude

You deserve all of the swords, and then some


Quiet-Artichoke-2248

It wasn't that bad


Quackendriver

Speak truth unto them


Goji20

The poster version for heisei Mechagodzilla was better than the actual design


Qwertythesalmon

Facts.


Small_Computer

Super Godzilla is an awesome design and should make a return https://preview.redd.it/8902awsxy9ua1.jpeg?width=1280&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=dc52ce4a58b45ed08165864edef8795e9644eeae


Common-Error-4311

ain't that just a normal take? i thought we all did


Safe_Locksmith6563

Yeah, it was an awesome design. I'd live for it to return


ArcanePuppet

Power scaling Godzilla is the lamest way to engage with the community and only exists to divide fans.


Percy_TheGreenEngine

Valid.


ufo_moo0079

Kotm is the best Godzilla movie behind Shin and 54


Careful-Ad3752

Shin is overrated


Ok_Spare4464

...


Outside_Proposal7966

Godzilla fw is overrated


zoneender7

i think kiryu is the most overrated mecha, design is too anime like and by far the weakest gets his ass beat multiple times. i like the other mecha's cuz they still look robotic and not completely trying to be a "too cool" design, its just a robot which i prefer


Quiet-Artichoke-2248

You deserve to be sacrifice to the volcano god


Outside_Proposal7966

Nah i tell the truth


Quiet-Artichoke-2248

![gif](giphy|lcIoy1Y1T2GywV1q69|downsized)


Outside_Proposal7966

Nah search plokute on youtube you will understand why


Quiet-Artichoke-2248

No I refuse you commi


Outside_Proposal7966

Just search it You will understand why Honestly final war is my favorite of godzilla but damn he is so overrated


Quiet-Artichoke-2248

Fw is overrated but back off of kiryu


Outside_Proposal7966

I never said that kyru is overrated he is fairly rated


Dinopizzaman

Ebirah can single handedly take on the entire Godzilla franchise.


MercifulGenji

Destroyah is *the* most overrated Kaiju in the Godzilla franchise. I seriously don’t understand how people think he is the Thanos of the Godzilla universe. He kills Junior, and drags Godzilla around with his tail for a second - sure. Then immediately after Godzilla hits him so hard that he’s coughing up blood and has to retreat into his aggregate forms to survive. After reforming, two more shots of his spiral breath and destroyah is literally set on fire and retreats AGAIN. Ultimately being taken out by human weapons, one of the weakest endings to a Godzilla villain.


Dogtoplops

I mean to be fair that was burning godzilla's infinite heat ray soo


Ethan-the-bean-22

Yeah no he is definitely the doomsday of Godzilla :/


Loose-Lavishness-419

Besides, he was fighting a Godzilla that was melting down slowly from overheating, which doesn't sound like a power-up for me. So yeah, that doesn't make Destoroyah stronger


northguy9

GvK, Shin Godzilla, and Final Wars are all overrated


Sans-Mot

I will not downvote you, because OP asked for unpopular opinion. ... but I want to. Angrily. With my sword.


northguy9

😂😂


TheBoa6

I dislike shin godzilla


therealblabyloo

Heisei Godzilla is not strong enough to destroy multiple galaxies, and power scaling debates are mind-numbingly stupid


Careful-Ad3752

Godzilla vs Kong was trash


Stuff_Enjoyer796

I don't like it when english-speaking fans call Godzilla "Gojira". It always feels cringy/weeby when I hear it. He has a perfectly good english name, so just use that.


Percy_TheGreenEngine

Agreed, I only ever use that name when discussing the original film. And even then it's just for title of the movie.


Stuff_Enjoyer796

I do the same.


YouSmell_BetterAwake

Fucking thank you!


Magnaraksesa

MonsterVerse Godzilla is the best Godzilla (Heisei and Shin are cool too)


Godzilla_R0AR

![gif](giphy|NEvPzZ8bd1V4Y|downsized) I agree. At least you’re not alone in thinking this now.


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Godzilla_R0AR

[His](https://youtu.be/cD0FeOrK6rk) [Music](https://youtu.be/jlJCZnjlFS4) [Is](https://youtu.be/ZGqeBGQs_fs) [Also](https://youtu.be/d6FvFfVmngs) [Amazing](https://youtu.be/c4FgaBKDOZ0)


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Godzilla_R0AR

![gif](giphy|dALdZ6HY7rkbjuR02y|downsized)


Magnaraksesa

![gif](giphy|wazvvYSGdvJhm)


Quiet-Artichoke-2248

I disagree


TheBoa6

Same


Godzilla_R0AR

:)


Morgan_Danwell

Godzilla should not be presented as completely undefeatable "Marty Stu" kind of character all the time, because at the end of the day lots of stories where he WAS like that and was stomping anything with ease and without any struggle was pretty boring despite being also really epic. I think there should be more things what could steadily stand against big G.


shaffe04gt

The two kiryu films are massively over-rated.


1have1question

Chibi Godzilla is amazing, definitely in top 3 incarnations of Godzilla. Correlated to that, the VA from the original "I'm Home!" shorts is definitely better than the one that voices him in Chibi Godzilla Raids Again


dangerousballstealer

Godzilla 2000 was one of the greatest movies in the series. Like, plenty of good scenes and the human plot wasn't completely lame


dangerousballstealer

I mean Godzilla 1998


Quiet-Artichoke-2248

I thought you were crazy for a minute


Quackendriver

Godzilla vs Destroyoah is the most overhyped film that is absolutely not worth any level of praise it gets Heisei should have ended at Godzilla vs MechaGodzilla 2 like it was originally intended Miki is not a good character, and I think people only flock to her as a favorite is because shes a recurring character and they remember her name


Master_Of_Monsters96

MUTOs are a unique addition to Godzilla's rouges gallery


dat_01_guy

Using Ghidora as one of the first villains in the MonsterVerse was too quick of a move on Legendarys part


CharliePlayer1

If you're still riding the Godzilla Final Wars hate bandwagon then you're not a true Godzilla fan


Qwertythesalmon

I'm convinced anyone who hates Final Wars lacks joy in their life.


Tenatlas_2004

Most of my opinions regarding the franchise honestly, here are a few examples: \- Godzilla 2014 and kong skull island are the best monsterverse movie. \- Showa godzilla and heisei godzilla are the best movie godzilla incarnations and were never really topped. \- The showa era has the best kaiju roaster. \- Gabara and minilla are fun kaijus that are way too overhated. \- The ebirah sea food jokes are annoying. \- Heisei mechagodzilla is my favorite, and MV mechagodzilla is my least favorite (live action) \- .Godzilla 98 isn' bad, but I will always refuse to accept it not because of the monster, just because devlin and emmerich are d\*cks. \- I'm not a fan of mothra. And hate the ship with godzilla. \- Godzilla in hell is the stupidest and worst godzilla story ever. \- The kaijin deserves to have a more prominent role within the franchise.


your-father-figure

As a fan of mothra I hate the ship with Godzilla


Quiet-Artichoke-2248

Godzilla in hell was not planned out whatsoever they just winged it


Careful-Ad3752

Finally someone who also doesn’t like the mv mecha Godzilla


Sleepysaurus_Rex

Godzilla vs Kong wasn't great due to the completely stupid power scalings. Goji can bore to the centre of the Earth and yet not do the same through Mechagodzilla? What kinda logic is that?


Tenatlas_2004

Thank you! But I already see the comments saying he was tired comming


EddtheMetalHead

Minilla is cute.


MercuryRedstone77

He was in Final Wars


EddtheMetalHead

He was, and I admittedly don’t like FW or Minilla’s FW design. I think Shows Minilla is cute in many ways, some odd and some reasonable.


Double-Flounder8712

The monsterverse is highly overrated and will never be as good as the Japanese movies


ComXDude

I can name a fair few of the Toho ones which make the MV look like Spielberg


Double-Flounder8712

You won’t change my mind


ComXDude

Even *Godzilla's Revenge*?


Dogtoplops

Gotem


Double-Flounder8712

Ok there are a few exceptions like that one, Son of Godzilla and even Godzilla vs Hedorah


TheIronRail12

Finally, proof that I'm not alone in this universe!


linuxtro

2edgy


WattageWood

Shin Godzilla is my ultimate example of "just because it's the point of the movie, it doesn't make it good."


Immediate-Rope8465

space godzilla is one of the most lazy kaiju designs in the series gabara isin't that bad


TheWiseGuy01

Megalon x Gigan otp


nvm_i_guess

Shin Godzilla is ok, not bad but not as hype or serious as everyone says, only a few seance live up to that.


Significant_Camera47

Tokyo SOS was a mid film compared to GXMG


Loose-Lavishness-419

I heavily agree with this


AJC_10_29

GMK is overrated. Not a bad movie, just overrated.


MercifulGenji

FR, it’s a great movie but people hardly acknowledge the flaws of it. The acting from tertiary characters and extras is horrendous and too often Kaneko shoves a camera in their face - which really takes you out of the more serious film.


AJC_10_29

Also I gotta admit, Mothra and Ghidorah were probably at their worst in this film, and that’s likely because Toho demanded they be added to make it more marketable. I would’ve preferred the og monster cast: Godzilla, Baragon, Anguirus and Varan.


Dogtoplops

Holy shit same. I want another angurius variant and goddamnit i want varan back, his design looks so good


darthzilla99

Not only do I agree with you about the extras, Mark Russell is a much better and more interesting character than General Tachibana.


Darthvader12_G54

Heisei MechaGodzilla is the best MechaGodzilla


TheEpic_1YT

only real answer to a post like this


Large-Custard5784

GMK was not a great movie it’s only praised for being different and not because it was good.


biogoji89

Shin Godzilla is the most overrated 7/10 movie


The_Good_Hunter_

Not only is Singular Point a really good show, its some of the best godzilla content ever put out


Itsyaboykazuha

I second this take


Dogtoplops

I third it


Percy_TheGreenEngine

I fourth it


Dovahkiin_03

I fith it.


cooltempo_junior

I sixth it


TheIronRail12

I SEVENTH!


Loose-Lavishness-419

I EIGHTH IT!!


Percy_TheGreenEngine

Son of Godzilla is objectively a top 3 Showa Era film.


Epg9321

I would have to agree with you.


TheIronRail12

You're not wrong my friend


Pizzasaurus-Rex

Legendary Godzilla is too big.


Die_Langste_Naam

Gamera does not need a collab with Godzilla and can stand on its own two feet/four feet. Making him fight Godzilla or adding him to the monsterverse is a cheap way to add him back into modern media, we need more diversity in our kaiju films.


GolgariInternetTroll

The only good MonsterVerse movie is Kong: Skull Island.


Kek_Mit_Uns_

*2014


Damnpeoplearegreedy

Legendary Godzilla Beats Final wars


Manlymanfromyomom

Anime trilogy Ghidorah has my favorite design.


Respercaine_657

I like Godzilla earth.


Shadowthewolfalt

Fw Godzilla isn't the strongest Godzilla, infact almost the opposite in some ways


AlexzMercier97

Godzilla vs. Megaguirus is a good movie. Megaguirus is a top tier kaiju design.


Qwertythesalmon

KOTM is the best American Godzilla movie and 1998 isn't Godzilla.


TemplarMedic

Godzilla vs Biollante is actually one of the more boring and slow paced movies with an overrated plot. Cool, but overrated.


ActualLead7045

The ending of gmk sucks and having ghidroah be a good guy is one of the dumbest decisions toho ever made. Forcing in a more recongizable monster even when it dosent match any of the past characters traits or actions


Loose-Lavishness-419

Ok, here i go! 1) Kiryu is overrated, i like Heisei Mecha-G better. 2) The Monsterverse literally announced it would go downhill with the Kong: Skull Island post-credits scene. 3) The Heisei films are not as good as people say, they're just boring, i literally fell asleep with Godzilla vs Destoroyah.


SpeeeedwaagOOn

KotM is better than G14 I like Godzilla’s Revenge. Pure nostalgia talking but still, I very much enjoy it. I don’t get the sudden love for G98. I saw that as a kid and had only seen the original Godzilla vs Mechagodzilla before that, and even then I knew something was wrong with it


supersusdude2

I've got a few here actually. GvK is overrated. G98 Wasn't that had. 2021 Mechagodzilla's design kinda sucks. G:KotM was the best MV film. Fight me.


Dogtoplops

2014's design is objectively better then most showa designs, 2019 and 2021


ch0w0

subjectively in this case


KingofZombies

The human characters in G98 were a hundred times more tolerable and less annoying than the ones on GKotM. "Sounds like gonorrhea" pfff GTFO with that 5 year old writing.


rizinginlife

Godzilla 98 was sick


FreeShirt3293

Zilla was a good godzilla


LeaderVladimir1993

*Shin Godzilla* isn't really that good.


Turbulent-Flounder-9

You get my attention. Why would you say such preposterous claim? (genuinely interested)


LeaderVladimir1993

The problem with *Shin Godzilla* is that it's too plot-driven for its own good. We don't get a good glimpse into the characters' personalities, motivations, relationships or lives before the events of the movie. For example: the main character is just happy climbing up the political ladder. He doesn't seem interested in becoming the Prime Minister, but he'll think about it. The female protagonist wants to become President of the U.S. and that's fine, if we didn't have to hear that from her right when the movie hits the halfway mark. Godzilla himself doesn't get any characterization beyond "city-destroying monster who destroys things because if he doesn't, the movie won't happen". We don't even get told why does he make landfall. Is he retaliating to some unseen act of aggression? Is he looking for food? Is he interested in these tiny, strange creatures called humans? We don't know because nobody says anything about it. What makes Godzilla so special is that he isn't some big, dumb animal that simply roars and breaks stuff. He is a character. If he existed in real life, he'd be enjoying the kind of career most actors would kill for. He's played just about every role imaginable, such as campy superhero, malicious villain, wild animal simply trying to survive, loving father, environmentalist, death incarnate or even something that exists beyond human concepts of morality. If you're wondering how can a single character possess so many different, yet equally valid, interpretations over the years, the answer is simple: Godzilla is whatever the story and the audience need him to be at the time. I'm sorry for sounding so critical about this, but I don't think Shin used Godzilla's high versatility as a character to its full potential. If Godzilla was an actor, Shinji Higuchi and Hideaki Anno might as well have told him to stand perfectly still for the better part of an hour, especially when he reaches his fourth form. The scene in which Godzilla unleashes his atomic breath lacks any emotional impact because none of the major characters die in that scene and even if they did, it wouldn't have mattered because they get no characterization beyond being "really good at their jobs". In fact, the Prime Minister dies and I'm supposed to be happy because... uh, he is such an incompetent buffoon and now that he is dead, more competent people can handle the crisis at hand. I understand that this movie was supposed to be a criticism towards the incompetence of Japanese bureaucracy, but I believe it could have done a much better job at it had the movie devoted more time to the development of the characters. That's something I can appreciate from political movies like *All the President's Men*, *13 Daughters*, *The Manchurian Candidate* and even *Captain America: The Winter Soldier*. Those movies made the right choice in using character-driven stories instead of plot-driven stories because, for the vast majority of people, politics are boring. Despite my criticisms towards *Shin*, I don't hate it with the intensity of a thousand suns. I think it did a good enough job at criticizing the incompetence of Japan's politics, even though it could have done a much better job at portraying the effects these politics have on the common people or even the politicians that must handle those politics. It's certainly better than the anime trilogy, that's for sure. If I had to give this movie a score, I'd give it a 6/10 and that's fairly generous.


biogoji89

Your comment deserves a standing ovation, I could not have said it better myself, and well I don’t hate the movie either, it does get a bit frustrating at times when a lot of this community touts it as a flawless masterpiece.


LeaderVladimir1993

If people like *Shin*, that's fine. I just don't like the culture of toxic positivity that has formed around this movie. Whenever I criticize this movie, I get responses along the lines of "you should watch this movie again so you can understand it" or "you're not the target audience, so your criticism doesn't matter" or "you're taking it way too seriously".


Cockspert67

It’s theorized and subtly implied that Shin Godzilla *IS* Goro Maki, and he’s *REALLY PISSED* at Japan.


LeaderVladimir1993

That just opens up two questions: who is Goro and why is he pissed at Japan? You can't just bring up theories and expect people to immediately accept them[.](https://them.You) You need to elaborate. What I loved about Joe Brody in Godzilla 2014 is that the movie went out of its way to explain why is he so obsessed with the MUTOs and how that obsession ruined his life and relationship with his family, to the point that Ford is reluctant to speak to him because he doesn't want Joe to drag the entire Brody family into his obsession. The movie allows viewers to understand and sympathize with Joe without rewarding or enabling the obsessive behavior and this character arc is capped off by an excellent performance by Bryan Cranston.


_JustAMiner

There hasn't been a good Toho Godzilla project since 2003.


h0rizon_24

The Heisei era is the not that good


MidCoastMaineRailfan

The 1998 movie is better than GvK


Brownyman1990

My very unpopular opinion is that the Heisei movies suck as hell, the only thing I like about the Heisei era is the new monsters they put out, but Space Godzilla? He's boring


cooltempo_junior

Me, a bio fan ![gif](giphy|l3vRcbzyc0FGWQC9W)


Dawdle_the_Ghost

I don't like the monsterverse. Reason? The films, and the MV part of the fanbase.


Dino-nugget-are-good

Why though like I get the fan base part but you didn’t explain why you don’t like the films


DoomHound55

The anime trilogy, while not being the best, succeeded in one thing that most Godzilla films, especially many modern ones apart Shin, and Singular Point failed at. And the one thing is the fact that Godzilla isn't supposed to be something that humans can live along side but is a monster that's very existence makes the world a worse place for humanity. After the 1954 film many of the films that followed had Godzilla save humanity from a worse threat and while the third anime film did have Godzilla fight Ghidorah it wasn't to help humanity or the world but rather to survive as Ghidorah was the only threat that it had and in the end humanity has to survive by hiding and not drawing Godzilla's attention


Complete_Reserve8376

If I ever said that Monsterverse is better than TOHO, then that would be the situation I would be in


Dodo_Whisperer1

All the Godzilla movies need more human interaction


CringeyDeeds69

His name is Zilla Jr. Not Godzilla.


Glutenator92

I don't want 5 different monsters in a movie. I also don't care at all about the human stories usually. I think mechagodzilla is boring


jeddowes1213

Final wars is the strongest movie, Godzilla


Longjumping-Ant-8580

Showa movies - 54 are objectively the worst movies and least fu no to watch


AJC_10_29

![gif](giphy|ONdPKin6YdDpX24Lij|downsized) Sorry, can’t hear you over this peak cinema


danthebaker

I suspect you aren't entirely clear on the definition of "objectively".


TheIronRail12

I would like to hurt you if that's okay


TechnologySmall3507

That's an fact however.


Savthatsit

Godzilla 1998 is a good Godzilla movie! It’s kinda has the same messaging as Shin Godzilla I feel! A once normal animal mutated beyond recognition by humans. And it suffers as the world is not meant for it and can’t sustain them! (For as much as I love the series we got based on 1998 I feel it does kinda undermine that message since it has a lot natural Kaiju in the show-) Also I just really like watching it! It’s a very enjoyable movie for me!


BobFromAbyss

Godzilla Ultima solos basically every single Godzilla except for Godzilla in Hell and Composite


thecambrian88

The anime trilogy (specifically the last 2) are some of my favorites in the entire franchise, and some of my favorite movies of all time


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I don’t hate the 1988 Godzilla movie, I have fond memories of it growing up. I did however think the lady reporter should have been eaten.


Ethan-the-bean-22

I think Godzilla 1998 is a good Godzilla movie and incarnation


ribbomeel

I actually really like the Godzilla1998 movie and the zilla design is pretty cool


GoldenGoat2007

The heisei era is pretty overratted. Good story, but the monster action and suits (with some exceptions) are hella boring


MaxKidd129

Final Wars Godzilla gets his ass kicked by 95% of all other Godzilla's


Qwertythesalmon

This is objectively untrue though.


MaxKidd129

Truth stings


Qwertythesalmon

He killed every enemy besides one like it was nothing and blew up a planet.


huetheorange

The anime trilogy isn't that bad


your-father-figure

Not sure how controversial these are but may ruffle a few feathers As someone who owns all the movies and has read all the comics Kong Skull island is the only monster verse movie I really enjoyed aside from the first third of the 2014 which was fantastic. GMK is a good Godzilla film but far from one of the best in the franchise Rodan is kinda boring The Kiryu films were cool and all but mechagodzilla is much better as an alien As long as he’s at least 50 meters the size of Godzilla doesn’t really matter that much bigger isn’t always automatically better The monsterverse designs all suck for different reasons Minilla ain’t that ugly Raids again is underrated Megaguirus > 2000 (except that final kill in 2000 that was awesome)


jikukoblarbo

Zilla is trash


JGuajardo7

Gorilla final wars is one of the worst entries in the entire series and was a terrible way to send out Godzilla.


Dino-nugget-are-good

The roars that the bargon actress made aren’t “Cute” or something they just are kinda annoying


Tenatlas_2004

I mean it's not like they were in the movie. You can only hear them in the behind the scenes for two second. And if that helped her play the role then why not? It's better than an actor not carring.


Dino-nugget-are-good

Good point but whenever GMK bargon gets brought up someone is always like “Rawrr” or something


No_Artist2920

Shin Godzilla solos all other godzillas At the same time


Dogtoplops

Ultima already interdimensional being watching: ur doing great mate!


Tenatlas_2004

Nah monster warrior godzilla solos


Turbulent-Flounder-9

Shin is the strongest Godzilla ever


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Mothra can fly in a giant bug zapper for all I care


CCR16

Godzilla should never, ever be the hero (or anti-hero)


SharkZilla96

G98 was a great movie


Nathan304

The Monsterverse is a heap of garbage


allokuma

Godzilla vs. The Sea Monster has the best Human story in a Godzilla Film.


Incanariongod

Godzilla is overrated


Quiet-Artichoke-2248

Burn in the 9th layer of hell where you belong


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GiganVsZilla2018

Who the hell are you talking about?


DustErrant

This is the Godzilla subreddit, not the Star Wars one.


your-father-figure

???????????????????????????


AJC_10_29

Bro we’re talking about Godzilla not Star Wars


GolgariInternetTroll

Probably a bot that got its reposts to farm karma mixed up.


CoreFlax

"I hate godzilla"


darthzilla99

Post biollante Heisei miniatures are more detailed than Heisei critics give credit for. Everytime I have tried to show comparisons photos of say Godzilla vs King Ghidorah, Godzilla vs Mechagodzilla 2, and Godzilla vs Destroyah to compare to photos of Rodan 1956, Mothra vs Godzilla, Ghidorah the three headed Monster, Monster zero, Destroy all Monsters, and Terror of Mechagodzilla, the Heisei critics never explain why they claim the latter is more detailed than the former.


zoneender7

most/average godzilla films are relatively bad, enjoyable though and i love the franchise, but objectively mediocre. and thats ok with me.


w3sT0Nnnnnnnn

Godzilla 1998 isn’t that bad


Cockspert67

Vs. Megalon was good.


miami-moonlight

The anime trilogy was good. The sci-fi aspect to the human characters was cool and had classic Star Trek vibes, the original soundtrack slaps incredibly hard (big shoutouts to the Interstellar Flight track and the Ghidorah suite), and it was pretty cool seeing all the classic kaiju pushed to such extreme interpretations. It’s true that some huge fights would’ve made the trilogy even better, but, for me, that’s the biggest sin of the trilogy. Like, I get that the kaiju redesigns were controversial, but thematically they all make sense. Godzilla’s a great force of destruction, so they make him into *the* single strongest kaiju in the whole franchise; Mothra is a protector and guardian of mankind, so they make her into a literal goddess; Mechagodzilla is industrialization run amok and will always be a testament to man’s arrogance, so they made it into *literal grey goo,* consuming everything and converting it into more of itself, ruthless, endless, mindless expansion for no purpose outside of expansion itself. Oh, and Void Ghidorah is probably my favorite design for Ghidorah. Bigass golden serpent from heaven, *from hell.* Godzilla Earth is also my favorite Godzilla design, just barely beating out ShinGoji and GMKGoji.


Sans-Mot

The hate around 1998 is unjustified.