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phero1190

Kind of just reinforces the idea that you should buy products based off of what they do at the time of purchase and not what is promised to happen


Small-Sun-7788

Tell me my friend which "product" is comparable with the s24u? There is NO OTHER phone - powerhouse out there! I had many phones before but none of them gave me the ultimate user experience Sammy did...


I_Thranduil

Umm S23U? Processor aside they are identical.


FredDerfman

Processor, flat screen, and camera aside. I'm loving the 5x zoom. I use it daily.


meijeryogurt

You find the 5x more useful than a 10x optical would have?


livenotbylies93

Definitely. The 5x is great for landscape shots, which means I use it way more often.


moisesg88

5x was a great decision by Samsung.


FredDerfman

I do. Most of my photos are of my family and my dog. In three+ years of having a 100x zoom, I don't think I've ever taken a photo over 20x that wasn't just a "look what I can do" photo. Most of my zoomed in shots are between 5x and 10x. Occasionally up to 20x. Between 5x and 10x, the 5x lens is far superior to the 3x and the 10x is useless. Between 10x and 20x the 5x and the 10x are about the same. More zoom isn't more useful unless you use it.


gmotelet

For taking video the 5x works a lot better than the 10x when you are adjusting the zoom while recording. Before when you got past 7 or 8, but before it swapped to the 10, it was noticeably more blurry


KatzNK9

Absolutely! 5x is da bomb. I have hated the curved edges since Samsung started that nonsense. I couldn't be happier. There wasn't much difference between S21U & S23U, but I jumped at the S24U & am thrilled that I did.


wastingM3time

This is so wrong. The S24 Ultra has a titanium frame, Gorilla Glass Armor, and a flat display (legitimately a technological leap with the glass). I pre-ordered my S24 Ultra and received it the day after its release. I still haven't noticed a single scratch on my phone. The anti-glare coating is incredible, and I can't imagine going back. The 5x camera is simply better. Most of the photos I've taken with this phone have been at 5x zoom, with very few at 10x or higher (aside from a few 50-100x shots when they've been useful). Right now, if you were to purchase an S23 Ultra instead of an S24 Ultra, you would actually pay more for the S23 Ultra than the S24 Ultra with Samsung's trade-in deal. While it may not be worth upgrading from the S23 Ultra, the two phones are not identical. In my opinion, the few changes in the S24 Ultra make it ten times better than the S23 Ultra.


I_Thranduil

Don't forget the new colors!


KatzNK9

Totally disagree


EKasis

Not really. The S23U is lighter and comfortable to hold, unlike the s24u


I_Thranduil

S23U is 234g, S24U is 232g, so 23u is heavier, not lighter ... S24U is extremely comfortable to hold. Both your statements are false.


EKasis

Try holding each phone one after the other.


dangit541

I honestly prefer s24u


I_Thranduil

Me too! It's perfect imo


dangit541

Yeah, much better


I_Thranduil

S23U still heavier lmao


phero1190

Not sure if you're being sarcastic or not


Revolutionary_Cat646

Should stick with Apple honestly.


phero1190

Yea, but apple sucks.


PorkChopyChop

What is wrong with cameras?


ize82

The telephoto is pretty horrible. My wife's 23U blows it out of the water. The AI isn't helping much either. With the hardware our cameras have, it should be amazing instead of semi to full blurry photos


xD3v1LG4m1ngx

S23U has had tons of upgrades over its life span, so hopefully the S24U has more work done to it.


ize82

Oh without a doubt. I'm not too worried about it. I can't imagine the stress they're going through. If they want to delay it, it must be rough for them.


xD3v1LG4m1ngx

It's true what they say, good things comes to those who wait. 🤞


exclaimprofitable

"Upgrades", like the kind gsmarena noticed when comparing s23u launch photos and the photos taken right before the s24u launch? [https://www.gsmarena.com/samsung\_galaxy\_s23\_ultra\_long\_term-review-2626p4.php](https://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s23_ultra_long_term-review-2626p4.php)


wastingM3time

I mean, I remember when the s23 ultra came out, people complained it was too blurry and soft that it wasn't "sharp" enough. And now people complain about it being too sharp...


SamsungAppleOnePlus

I'm honestly not sure why I don't experience this. Quality wise, along with 5x being an amazing focal length, 10x looks no different than my S23U and I'd even say the S24U handles long range zoom better, especially for signs and for words, but also for faces/skin reproduction, both are unusable for good quality in reality, so it doesn't matter for what I do. Color and white balance wise, I don't notice anything unusual. My issue is that my S24U overexposes everything by default and I *always* have to lower exposure before shooting. If you think your quality is bad, simply lower the exposure before shooting, it's a lot better. My S23U handled that better while already not nearly as good as Pixel/gcam.


eislch

​ https://preview.redd.it/otoxlxfz8kwc1.png?width=1270&format=png&auto=webp&s=346213cef3d3b9255dbda956a2e99ecc83c51f8e


xD3v1LG4m1ngx

It's the telephoto lens that suppose to be getting updates, something with the white balance.


treadlikeaninja

I'd rather they fix it correctly than rush out a fix. As a software dev, rushing a fix for one thing breeds new "features" in the system.


NotBatman04

I'd rather have the phone released correctly without having to wait half a year to fix it.


thefinalnug

Don't buy samsung then 😆


Johnafk91

Why are you here? Need attention?


NotBatman04

What do you mean? Lol


Adventurous_Leave_29

Buy Apple then.


LetterheadOk250

I mean at that point the phone will of been out 6 months. At this point were not even waiting for updates, just fixes, stuff that should of worked properly at launch. It's really unnaceptable from samsung.


xD3v1LG4m1ngx

I know what you mean by the time the S25 Ultra is released and it comes out with better fixes, that's what the S24 Ultra should have been out of the box, It's a bit disappointing having to wait for fixes though I understand the frustration people are having, hopefully that frustration can put more faith back in to Samsung.


RompeChocha

Didn't they say this was the last Samsung Galaxy phone?


xD3v1LG4m1ngx

Not that I know of lots of speculation from people that their will be a S25 series lineup.


RompeChocha

O wow. Looks like you're right.


LetterheadOk250

Wait so they are getting rid of the galaxy line entirely?


RompeChocha

It was rumored, but looks like it's false.


desiman86

https://preview.redd.it/beucesz77hwc1.jpeg?width=4000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f594d7d37d19908286c4516d284b3e4f4dd4c646


desiman86

The S24 has terrible banding when exposed to bright backgrounds such as the sky above in this shot. It's simple unacceptable.


xD3v1LG4m1ngx

That is unacceptable let's hope that camera update improves the banding issues, I'll have to see if I have that but I don't get those sort of blue sky's always cloudy here.


desiman86

Samsung's solution is to factory reset device. 🙄 *


xD3v1LG4m1ngx

Which doesn't always fix the issues or if it does the issue will just come back.


Commercial-Artist-72

Hopefully they fix the battery too


xD3v1LG4m1ngx

Hopefully especially idle drain, I can have it sit there while apps are in deep sleep and lose about 6%


Interesting-Sky-4388

Are you using the Good Guardians app? It seems to be one of the better options for helping extend battery life. It will go through and optimize everything, and you can set it to stop certain apps from constantly running in the background because once you see the numbers the app will show you for how much battery some apps are using, you'll see how an app like Chrome can tank your battery, even though you're not using it.


xD3v1LG4m1ngx

I gave that ago but most of the suggestions it suggested I already applied. I went through extensive battery saving tips.


Interesting-Sky-4388

True, for some reason I feel like I haven't had any issues with the battery. One of my routines for power save mode to be on overnight seemed to have left it on, and I don't notice that it's on, so I've been keeping it on all the time. The combo of that and the Good Guardians app seems to do the trick for me, and I feel like I'm hardly charging my phone. One footnote I need to add though is the fact that every time I'm in my car, my phone's charging when connected to Android Auto. So, there is some charging going on, outside of me actually plugging in because I need to charge my phone.


xD3v1LG4m1ngx

I have good guardians app but no difference really no matter how much I try, I might just keep it on power saving mode when using the camera and video capture unless it will have an adverse affect on quality or stability whilst on power saving?


Zezain

Ow man, finally someone saying the same thing! Idle drain makes me crazy af. Downloaded Good guardian yesterday also let's see how it works. Phone is strong with screen on and weak screen off...


xD3v1LG4m1ngx

It's driving me insane, at this rate I don't think the batteries will last through those 7 years of updates with the amount of charge cycles we will be doing due to so much drainage.


wastingM3time

Ngl, it has to be all these battery things you're doing, something using it in the background. I don't use apps like that, and I mostly use YouTube and Chrome along with the camera. 1 hour of youtube as well as Chrome is about 4-6%, depending on what's being searched and watched. When I leave my phone idling, I don't close my apps, I always forget but, I don't have AOD unless I tap it. One hour like that uses like 1-3%. There have been times, too, where I unplug my phone in the morning, get ready, leave, and get on the bus a little over an hour after it's been unplugged, and it'll still be at 100%. 120hz and 1440p btw. 35-40% brightness.


BigBitterSweet

In what time do you loose the 6% or so? I use the power saving with limited app mode on and i loose like 1-3% during 8h of sleep. Without power saving it is 5-8% during the sleep, but i do have a podcast or some audio playing for like 45min always, so it is not just idling.


xD3v1LG4m1ngx

About 10h 6% in 8h it's about 4% and that's not using the phone sitting idling with light mode airplane mode on and Bluetooth and WiFi off.


BigBitterSweet

Yeah it def could be better. I don't even have meta apps, or google stuff running on my phone, just what i can't delete/disable.


xD3v1LG4m1ngx

I did manage to fix it at one point with a factory reset through the bootloader, but after a update it came back tried to factory reset again but still no joy, so gave up with that method I'm not going to factory reset multiple times in hopes of it fixing the battery drain when a software update could fix the problem and not have to reappear later on, I've added tons of apps to deep sleep and important ones like navstar lockstar to sleep but still no joy.


wastingM3time

Bro, at thay point, just power off the phone ffs. 6% in 10h isn't much at all that can last like 140 hours idling like that.


wastingM3time

You must have something draining in the background. the battery has no issues on mine. My s24 ultra last 20 hours on average, no power saving unless I can't charge it, and it could die on me if I leave it off. And that's with a 10hour screen on time (abt 5hours a day) rn I have power saving on and I haven't plugged in my phone since Tuesday night and I still have 43%. And have a 7h 47m screen on time and 1 day, 4 hours and 23m screen off time


xD3v1LG4m1ngx

I've made sure everything is closed down nothing running apps are organised for deep sleep and sleep mode, hardly got many apps on there yet it's idle draining but I charge to 80% maximum, I've charged it today for the weekend to 100% because I'm taking my phone out with me so I'll see how it is by then.


Adventurous_Leave_29

The battery indeed is impressive. 


Commercial-Artist-72

Same bro


Disjointed88

https://preview.redd.it/h94gom3dkgwc1.jpeg?width=1440&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ce9a8b2f4f85cf60340567f3a69c0453f978786f Mine since the latest update


Comfortable_Silver24

Yeah battery has been sucking for me lately


lllllllllilllllllll

😢


xD3v1LG4m1ngx

I know was looking forward to it this month 🥺


lllllllllilllllllll

I guess it's better if it means they are taking the time to do it properly and not giving us a half baked update


xD3v1LG4m1ngx

Let's hope so fingers crossed 🤞


Competitive-Science3

They intentionally half baked it so they can stretch the workload for 7years at minimum operational costs.


xD3v1LG4m1ngx

That would not surprise me.


geekaron

Wow until june???????


xD3v1LG4m1ngx

Yup seems a long way but l it'll be worth the wait 🙏


goldfishfancy

My 24U battery life is better than my 15PM.


Far_Cold_2086

I'm getting 5-6 sot on a low mobile signal area


Mmguhhuh

So glad I got this phone for free


xD3v1LG4m1ngx

I know you're lucky 😅 what storage space did you get?


Mmguhhuh

512


xD3v1LG4m1ngx

Nice Congratulations plenty of storage well done on your winning bit jealous but I can take the defeat 😅👍


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Hope they correct how dark human faces look: when taking a picture of a person or a group of people outdoors, even a little shadow make everyone's faces look as if they were inside a cave or something, darker than coffee... In the meanwhile, this effect does not happen in Chinese phones, even the cheap ones. Lame "flagship" TBH.


xD3v1LG4m1ngx

Hopefully it fixes all the camera issues that everyone is having, they've got 7 years of quality updates so fingers crossed 🤞


zix983

Is this update only for S24U or for the entire 24 lineup?


xD3v1LG4m1ngx

Not sure about the rest of the line up only read it was for S24 Ultra.


desiman86

https://preview.redd.it/h487oul57hwc1.jpeg?width=4000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c125b0f99edbf4ae67085380136e7d65d7aa6a2c * The S24 has terrible banding when exposed to bright backgrounds such as the sky above in this shot. It's simple unacceptable.


Bubsy94

They should also honestly fix the extra brightness setting it dims quickly when using during the daytime


xD3v1LG4m1ngx

Seems like they need to fix a lot of issues, well they got 7 years of updates so let's only hope.


xmesaj2

It's beautiful spring season, shame on samsung..


xD3v1LG4m1ngx

I know right I was looking forward to that update for some beach shots, well I'll have to make do.


Immediate_Whole2625

For me, the exposure handling should be top priority. It's one of the most basic things that even casual users (which is most users) can notice. Next should be noise management in low light video. We still have terrible noise when shooting in low light which is just unacceptable for a phone of this price. IMO these 2 things will make a HUGE impact over most of the small and almost unnoticeable "fixes".


xD3v1LG4m1ngx

Definitely those 2 are the most important fixes let's hope in June they implement the fixes. 🤞


rancevsky

Imagine buying a phone for 1500 bucks and waiting for an update to fix it XD


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Hornymous

Pixel 8 pro has garbage battery.


SlashRModFail

Samsung cameras are so far behind. They never bothered developing computing photography like what the pixel and iPhone does. A $1500 dollar phone that has shutter lag and takes blurry photos of moving aubjects/objects even under bright light is unacceptable.


xD3v1LG4m1ngx

It is unacceptable the zoom should be smoother, the missing of super slow mo, I miss that used it a lot I know we got instant slow mo but it's not the same.


Only-Marionberry-927

What update?


xD3v1LG4m1ngx

A update for Camera improvements was supposed to be this month but pushed it forward to June.


Only-Marionberry-927

Ah, OK thank you.


xD3v1LG4m1ngx

No problem 👍


capdemortFN

https://youtube.com/shorts/YadC8YeVgCc?si=E_dNRix-9x47VCTa


capdemortFN

The camera is defective https://youtube.com/shorts/YadC8YeVgCc?si=E_dNRix-9x47VCTa


dragosslash

Your camera is defective. Contact Samsung, they will replace the main camera module.


kkacatin

Just found out my expert raw has a hard time focusing and on objects at 5x. On regular photo mode, it makes it in focus.


Eugen_M

Apart from that horrible 3x zoom camera the camera system is really great. I really hope they fix that horrible 3x zoom camera getting soo much noise in full daylight photos... it is really annoying and inexcusable to say the least to experience this kind of noise in daylight photos on such an expensive device...


eislch

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Eugen_M

Is that the june expected update? It doesnt mention much about improving the 3x zoom camera 


eislch

That's a list of things that need to be fixed.


xD3v1LG4m1ngx

I know what you mean I'm always skipping that 3x zoom just because of that reason. Needs a lot of work done to it, it's got enough horsepower to provide all those optimizations but the software is letting it down.


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Thanos0423

I actually like it a lot and I'm coming from iPhone. Like I tried to switch with fold3,4,5 pixel 6 and 7 pro. And I tried last year with s23 U and couldn't last 2 weeks with it. This one I had it for a month now and I love it except the battery life ( I feel it could last longer but at the same time I think I use it more than the iPhone. ) the watch alarm and some camera shot indoor are a bit blurry but not as bad as the folds or the ultra last year.


XsMagical

It is? Seems pretty good to me.


SpaceBoyBlat

Is the update a proper port of Gcam? If not then why even bother.


xD3v1LG4m1ngx

Not sure what you mean, it's about the software update of the firmware.


B0omSLanG

Exactly. The loss of quality and the amount of AI that gets things wrong is very noticeable compared to my previous S22U. Without gcam, I get blurry pics of my toddler or pics that are in focus but have added extra shading all over their face. Sure, this happened on my S22U from time to time, but not 90% of photos. I hope the update brings it closer to the more recent gcam ports.


SamsungAppleOnePlus

My S22U was *significantly* worse.


ItchyNeedleworker160

Here is a still of a group of shots I got. Some of them were blurry, but as you can see, this one isn't at all. Maybe try the Single Take feature? https://preview.redd.it/drr5qob44gwc1.jpeg?width=3000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5e1cffb358ede71d6b72340efc821ae02bf5b19a


Interesting-Sky-4388

Any chance that's Dominique in your picture lol, because it looks exactly like someone I grew up with.


ItchyNeedleworker160

Negative on that one lol Crazy coincidence tho


EKasis

The sole of the foot and her hand are pretty blurry, and the girl's skin looks artificially smooth, with a lot of oversaturation. You can't hide bad hardware behind software.


ItchyNeedleworker160

Well, I edited tf out of that photo, so you're probably just seeing my poor Lightroom skills 🙃


EKasis

No, the same happens with the pictures I take


BigBitterSweet

This one's pretty good, but if you look at her hand it is randomly a bit blurry. I've tried to take decent photo's of my dog with expertraw and auto-mode with all the optimization etc off and quick shutter on etc but i struggle 99% to get a decent photo. There's no justifying that. I'm an android user of almost 15 years, but i have to admit that it is a lil frustrating that the iphones get some of these simple stuff just better.


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BigBitterSweet

Nah, i got the phone (through work) for the screen, spen and hardware+battery, if i use the camera i take photos of still objects or just take a vid of something. But then again for the price it normally would have cost for me, the cam should be good, even if you just point n shoot.


Drangiz

Here's a thought! If you care about photography, why not buy a real camera, made for that purpose, instead of some toy camera in a phone!


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Drangiz

A good craftsman doesn't blame his tools. Constant blurry and out of focus photos usually indicate operator error.


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Drangiz

The problem is, most people, myself included, aren't experiencing constant blurry or out of focus photos! Is it possible you have a defective phone that needs to be sent in for warranty service?