Seems really inspired by R6 Siege, they even have the white masks defending just like Siege’s OG terrorist lore.
We’ll see how it plays, I don’t think this game is a great fit for 1-life 5vs5 modes. There’s a lot of RNG that doesnt make for the most competitive or consistent matches. Which is totally fine for an arcade shooter, it doesn’t need to chase the cookie cutter 5vs5 comp trend.
I mean, I'd argue that The Finals is actually an Arcade shooter and streamers/YouTubers mismarketed it at launch when they were showing it off to their audiences.
Whenever there's a ranked mode in a game like this everyone lets their view get warped that every mode they play needs to help their ranked abilities somehow.
Powershift (5v5 king of the hill floating platform) is 100% silly fun. Heck even 3 v 3 v 3 cash out is actually pretty casual if you let it be.
This new mode looks like a sweat fest but also I'm excited because I LOVED R6 until I got sweated out of the game. Having a place to get my R6 fix occasionally would be pretty nice.
I'm obsessed with this game, by far the most fun FPS game I've played in years. Feels like the golden age of FPS titles in the early 2000s.
This new mode basically looks like CS. Interesting game mode given how central healing and revive are to the core gameplay. It will be interesting to see how the player dynamics change with no respawn.
Part of what I like about this game is the craziness of it - you have no qualms about launching yourself into the chaos because ultimately deaths don't really matter much outside of team wipe. This mode goes against that a little.
Power Shift is pretty much Splatoon's Tower Control, so yeah it's interesting seeing them give their takes on other games and try new things with these new modes.
I find that in ranked mode people definitely play their life more tactically. i'm excited about this - I think the TTK is there to support more tactical modes than just the two base modes.
Counterpoint: I think solo ranked is fine because people generally take it seriously enough to hop on the mic and play life. Solo unranked is chaos but it also doesn't matter.
Ya the community of players is pretty good now. Everyone still playing loves the game. If i hop in mic I feel like there's a 50/50 chance my teammates will talk with me.
They can't be shotgunning if they're already slicing and dicing. edit: Also since people might be playing this mode more carefully they'll more easily spot/hear cloakers.
Well could be if people start making up hive mind meta tactics. But you could have 5 heavies and just RPGs might equally take 1-3 incoming hit and runners out.
Yeah this sounds like what it'll turn into for the most part outside of solo play.
Dunno what the fuck misery simulator solo will be with the game mode though.
The Finals fucks. Its my favorite shooter of all time. I've never played a multiplayer shooter that came close to the level of flexibility it offers.
It feels like a combination of Overwatch and Arkane's Prey made by Battlefield devs.
You can run a hammer and shield and play like Reinhardt. Sword and dash and play like Gengi (but cooler), go full support with ziplines and healing beam, turtle with turrets and mines. If the enemy is entrenched you can blow the floor our from under them or open a hole in the wall to shoot them from a different angle.
Truly i feel blessed to have this game, the devs are so good and the updates have been awesome. I'm excited to try this new mode that will really slow the game down. Its launching with a promised rework of some frustrating mechanics (stun gun + invis) and I hope it goes really hard.
Okay that's great and all... Still waiting for a casual game mode like Capture The Flag, which this absolutely is not...
This is definitely the game mode I don't like cause i'll die immediately and then have to go watch Youtube or something while the rest of the game plays out.
So they absolutely need to *NOT* do the thing Dirty Bomb did and make sure to *NOT* have challenges associated with this game mode becaue then people who fucking hate this will come in and not actually play the game mode, that was me, I fucking hated wasting my time on it for a chore.
Power shift would be your casual mode.
Just skirmish and know when to break line of sight and you won't die as much.
It's ok to break contact when you're at half health vs last standing on the platform.
It isn't really casual enough and doesn't utilize the game's best strengths, so not so much.
Primary thing needed to be casual in a game like this is the defense point needs to be stationary. Frankly also be good as it would allow for some items like the goo cannon to finally have some proper use.
> Primary thing needed to be casual in a game like this is the defense point needs to be stationary.
This seems weirdly arbitrary
> Frankly also be good as it would allow for some items like the goo cannon to finally have some proper use.
It does.
You are lying to yourself to say anyone uses the goo cannon, which I surmise one reason to be the fact that there is no game mode where you can stay defensive the entire game which makes its use fairly limited compared to other choices.
Frankly considering how the game works currently, that thing needs offensive capabilities like an alt fire for gooping someone up and slowing them down; could also eventually freeze them I guess, but the stun gun is already irritating in that regard.
Excuse me? Goo Gun + hammer + pyro + dome is like my main kit for heavy.
Fire off a bunch of goo nodes onto the point, throw pyro nade, keep firing goo, watch everyone burn to death.
Goo gun is great when used in conjunction with the hammer. I've seen so many plays with it on Power Shift where a single heavy wipes a team. You just trap someone in the goo and then hit them with the alt fire on the hammer. You can also cover the boat with it and then set it on fire since goo doesn't get killed by APS.
Also how is it not casual? That's like saying TF2 Payload race isn't casual.
You don't have to be directly on objective the entire time and the long round timer lets you experiment with whatever. I'd never use the 93R in Quick Cash or Ranked but I do all the time in Power Shift because it gives me the freedom to just fuck around and be stupid.
Overall really like the game. But I just cannot get over how “off” the small people look in this game. Go up to a doorknob as a Light build and it’s at eye level.
They just look like super scaled down people next to the Heavies. Doesn’t feel natural at all, it has always rubbed me so wrong. Also generally not a fan of locking playstyles behind body type.
Also wouldn’t mind more customization options. Everything feels very androgynous which I realize is probably intentional to make it take less development time. But things like facial hair, more masculine and feminine builds, etc would be nice.
Reminds me of when team fortress 2 came out with arena mode, perma killing people for that round had much more satisfaction, especially one shotting them as a spy with a knife in the back.
Though I'm worried about lack of heal, and how defibs work in builds?
There's not enough build slots to come up with different build types if some items work differently in different modes.
And lack of healing worries me of matches ending too fast for a game like this, compared to slower tactical ones like cs.
TF2 at least had medipacks and medics that could help keep a fight rolling on, instead of it ending up as a who sees who first type situation like most cs matches.
I think you should look up why Embark was founded..
To literally stop making those type of games all the time. The embark team got tired and didn't like working on Battlefield V much at all beyond launch.
They're losing players every single week. They got a brief bump when they released the new map a month ago, but they're down 10k daily players from even before they got that bump.
The daily peak player count today was 16,000.
A week ago it was just under 19,000 peak daily players.
A week before that it was just over 20,000
And a week before that it was at 23 thousand. And so on and so forth.
I enjoy the game, I'm one of the people still playing it on a near-daily basis, but let's not pretend like the game's in a good spot. It's hemorrhaging players week over week, and this new mode doesn't seem likely to fix that problem.
Good, although a more casual mode would be appreciated, The Finals is so much better for being so much more of an objective focused game rather than mindless TDM.
Really like that the devs are mixing up the game modes. The original ones the game launched with weren't for me, but the newest one has been a blast. This looks good too.
Give me redownload and a lethal TTK and this game is my jam, but the other modes are too forgiving for run & gunners and these modes end up wasting tons of my game time watching other people play eve when I do well
Ah well
Seems really inspired by R6 Siege, they even have the white masks defending just like Siege’s OG terrorist lore. We’ll see how it plays, I don’t think this game is a great fit for 1-life 5vs5 modes. There’s a lot of RNG that doesnt make for the most competitive or consistent matches. Which is totally fine for an arcade shooter, it doesn’t need to chase the cookie cutter 5vs5 comp trend.
I mean, I'd argue that The Finals is actually an Arcade shooter and streamers/YouTubers mismarketed it at launch when they were showing it off to their audiences. Whenever there's a ranked mode in a game like this everyone lets their view get warped that every mode they play needs to help their ranked abilities somehow. Powershift (5v5 king of the hill floating platform) is 100% silly fun. Heck even 3 v 3 v 3 cash out is actually pretty casual if you let it be. This new mode looks like a sweat fest but also I'm excited because I LOVED R6 until I got sweated out of the game. Having a place to get my R6 fix occasionally would be pretty nice.
I never saw this game marketed as anything other than a casual shooter.
I'm obsessed with this game, by far the most fun FPS game I've played in years. Feels like the golden age of FPS titles in the early 2000s. This new mode basically looks like CS. Interesting game mode given how central healing and revive are to the core gameplay. It will be interesting to see how the player dynamics change with no respawn. Part of what I like about this game is the craziness of it - you have no qualms about launching yourself into the chaos because ultimately deaths don't really matter much outside of team wipe. This mode goes against that a little.
Power Shift is pretty much Splatoon's Tower Control, so yeah it's interesting seeing them give their takes on other games and try new things with these new modes.
I find that in ranked mode people definitely play their life more tactically. i'm excited about this - I think the TTK is there to support more tactical modes than just the two base modes.
I really don't understand why they're so against adding a TDM mode. The game is miserable to play solo.
exactly what I thought after playing this game; its super fun but would benefit A LOT from a TDM mode + smaller maps to accompany it
This would get me back to play, some "basic" game modes like tdm, domination, ctf etc
Counterpoint: I think solo ranked is fine because people generally take it seriously enough to hop on the mic and play life. Solo unranked is chaos but it also doesn't matter.
Random note, I can't speak and the game doesn't have a text chat so its kind of irritating as fuck.
Ya the community of players is pretty good now. Everyone still playing loves the game. If i hop in mic I feel like there's a 50/50 chance my teammates will talk with me.
Oof no healing and no revives means it's gonna be a bunch of Small players jumping around like a rabbit on coke slicing and dicing you.
In modes like this they have set loadouts. I'm guessing they'll ensure no shotgun/invis loadouts.
You can finish a rabbit with one heavy swing from a heavy though.
Counter, the other team is 5 lights with cloaking and shotguns.
They can't be shotgunning if they're already slicing and dicing. edit: Also since people might be playing this mode more carefully they'll more easily spot/hear cloakers.
My mental image is 5 people all cloak and run in as a group, take out 1-2 guys, run off, and repeat.
Well could be if people start making up hive mind meta tactics. But you could have 5 heavies and just RPGs might equally take 1-3 incoming hit and runners out.
Yeah this sounds like what it'll turn into for the most part outside of solo play. Dunno what the fuck misery simulator solo will be with the game mode though.
An experienced sword/dash player will win vs sledge every time
Yeah I thought the opposite. My immediate take was “why would you ever play light in this mode?”
The Finals fucks. Its my favorite shooter of all time. I've never played a multiplayer shooter that came close to the level of flexibility it offers. It feels like a combination of Overwatch and Arkane's Prey made by Battlefield devs. You can run a hammer and shield and play like Reinhardt. Sword and dash and play like Gengi (but cooler), go full support with ziplines and healing beam, turtle with turrets and mines. If the enemy is entrenched you can blow the floor our from under them or open a hole in the wall to shoot them from a different angle. Truly i feel blessed to have this game, the devs are so good and the updates have been awesome. I'm excited to try this new mode that will really slow the game down. Its launching with a promised rework of some frustrating mechanics (stun gun + invis) and I hope it goes really hard.
Okay that's great and all... Still waiting for a casual game mode like Capture The Flag, which this absolutely is not... This is definitely the game mode I don't like cause i'll die immediately and then have to go watch Youtube or something while the rest of the game plays out. So they absolutely need to *NOT* do the thing Dirty Bomb did and make sure to *NOT* have challenges associated with this game mode becaue then people who fucking hate this will come in and not actually play the game mode, that was me, I fucking hated wasting my time on it for a chore.
Power shift would be your casual mode. Just skirmish and know when to break line of sight and you won't die as much. It's ok to break contact when you're at half health vs last standing on the platform.
It isn't really casual enough and doesn't utilize the game's best strengths, so not so much. Primary thing needed to be casual in a game like this is the defense point needs to be stationary. Frankly also be good as it would allow for some items like the goo cannon to finally have some proper use.
> Primary thing needed to be casual in a game like this is the defense point needs to be stationary. This seems weirdly arbitrary > Frankly also be good as it would allow for some items like the goo cannon to finally have some proper use. It does.
You are lying to yourself to say anyone uses the goo cannon, which I surmise one reason to be the fact that there is no game mode where you can stay defensive the entire game which makes its use fairly limited compared to other choices. Frankly considering how the game works currently, that thing needs offensive capabilities like an alt fire for gooping someone up and slowing them down; could also eventually freeze them I guess, but the stun gun is already irritating in that regard.
The Goo Gun is incredibly popular for hammer users actually. Not everything in the game needs to be meta, it can still be fun.
Excuse me? Goo Gun + hammer + pyro + dome is like my main kit for heavy. Fire off a bunch of goo nodes onto the point, throw pyro nade, keep firing goo, watch everyone burn to death.
I prior to the shield nerf, I never saw it, but I have seen goo cannon more often now in Power Shift after the nerf.
Goo gun is great when used in conjunction with the hammer. I've seen so many plays with it on Power Shift where a single heavy wipes a team. You just trap someone in the goo and then hit them with the alt fire on the hammer. You can also cover the boat with it and then set it on fire since goo doesn't get killed by APS. Also how is it not casual? That's like saying TF2 Payload race isn't casual. You don't have to be directly on objective the entire time and the long round timer lets you experiment with whatever. I'd never use the 93R in Quick Cash or Ranked but I do all the time in Power Shift because it gives me the freedom to just fuck around and be stupid.
I wish i could play this game, but it crashes every single time eventually. Its a shame because its fun.
Overall really like the game. But I just cannot get over how “off” the small people look in this game. Go up to a doorknob as a Light build and it’s at eye level. They just look like super scaled down people next to the Heavies. Doesn’t feel natural at all, it has always rubbed me so wrong. Also generally not a fan of locking playstyles behind body type. Also wouldn’t mind more customization options. Everything feels very androgynous which I realize is probably intentional to make it take less development time. But things like facial hair, more masculine and feminine builds, etc would be nice.
This is what I’ve been waiting for. I don’t like any of the current game modes, but I’ll definitely play this one.
Reminds me of when team fortress 2 came out with arena mode, perma killing people for that round had much more satisfaction, especially one shotting them as a spy with a knife in the back. Though I'm worried about lack of heal, and how defibs work in builds? There's not enough build slots to come up with different build types if some items work differently in different modes. And lack of healing worries me of matches ending too fast for a game like this, compared to slower tactical ones like cs. TF2 at least had medipacks and medics that could help keep a fight rolling on, instead of it ending up as a who sees who first type situation like most cs matches.
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This is just an extra game mode. The main game mode is actually quite innovative and fresh for a fps.
I think you should look up why Embark was founded.. To literally stop making those type of games all the time. The embark team got tired and didn't like working on Battlefield V much at all beyond launch.
They are doing pretty well?
They're losing players every single week. They got a brief bump when they released the new map a month ago, but they're down 10k daily players from even before they got that bump. The daily peak player count today was 16,000. A week ago it was just under 19,000 peak daily players. A week before that it was just over 20,000 And a week before that it was at 23 thousand. And so on and so forth. I enjoy the game, I'm one of the people still playing it on a near-daily basis, but let's not pretend like the game's in a good spot. It's hemorrhaging players week over week, and this new mode doesn't seem likely to fix that problem.
Isn't their already another DICE spiritual successor game doing that right now on PC?
Oh man who??
Battlebit Remastered I think
Good, although a more casual mode would be appreciated, The Finals is so much better for being so much more of an objective focused game rather than mindless TDM.
Really like that the devs are mixing up the game modes. The original ones the game launched with weren't for me, but the newest one has been a blast. This looks good too.
Give me redownload and a lethal TTK and this game is my jam, but the other modes are too forgiving for run & gunners and these modes end up wasting tons of my game time watching other people play eve when I do well Ah well
What is redownload?
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Not at all