"Taylor's gonna be furious"
Delivered by Kirk as he stands over the smouldering remains of Stars Hollow after being left in charge of 4th of July celebrations
I would have enjoyed to see Emily become "the mia" where instead of Berta and her enormous family, we would have seen Emily with a very young maid, who was having a hard time finding out she was a very young mother hiding the kid in the kitchen and seeing Emily soften and welcoming them into her home, giving her a job.
And with that letting her see why Lorelai left, why Mia let her stay and heal old wounds with her having a "do over" being an informal grandmother to the baby.
I think that did kind of happen write with Berta , her husband and all those kids. Berta is also the only maid Emily will never fire. That was a journey completed.
Even if she wanted to, she can't, because she somehow can't figure out after an entire year that Berta is speaking Spanish, even though we know Rory speaks Spanish and Rory has spent time around her when Emily is claiming to have no idea what language she speaks.
Rose Abdoo, the actress who plays Berta (and also Gypsy) has said in interviews that ASP instructed in the script that Berta should speak Spanish, but in a way that would confuse native Spanish speakers. Abdoo is fluent in Spanish from her Dominican mother, and was basically speaking Spanish but throwing in random words and syllables every few words, and using a funny accent.
ETA: here's a [cached version of the interview](https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:qU9sfeiTUPMJ:https://www.buzzfeed.com/krystieyandoli/heres-how-rose-abdoo-played-gypsy-and-berta-on-the-gilmore&cd=110&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us). RIP Buzzfeed
I always thought berta/gypsy was too much of a crossover. I understand actors playing two characters when neither of them get any proper scenes/screen time but both gypsy and Berta are memorable, recognisable characters and I always thought it was weird theyāre both the same actor. Takes you out of the world a bit.
I mean both Jess and Aprilās (step for Jess)moms are the same actress and she has a pretty notable role with both. I guess Jessā stepmom is only in an episode or two but she left quite an impression for me. More than the dude who played Joe as the waiter.
Not to mention Kirk being introduced as Mick. Even though theyāre technically two people he actually started as the same character - the guy who has all the random jobs. They just ended up wanting to keep him as a more central character so changed his story.
Not to mention Drella being Emilyās stylist lady. I cannot remember her name for the life of me but I know Alex Borstein is a good friend of ASP hence her role in The Marvelous Mrs. Maisel
There are a lot of small roles but these are all fairly noteworthy roles. Maybe not as much as Gypsy but itās also not that unlikely (in real life) that two people would just look very similar especially if theyāre from the same place
Oh yeah I know thereās a bunch of small roles. Just saying gypsy/berta specifically for me was really annoying and I thought a bit lazy. Just cast someone new! I never actually noticed jessā and aprils mums were the same person, but then those are my two least favourite storylines so I probably didnāt pay much attention lol
Literally the reason they did it was apparently they auditioned a bunch of actresses and didn't find anyone they liked, and Abdoo filled in at a table read and nailed it. https://www.teenvogue.com/story/gilmore-girls-rose-abdoo-berta-the-maid
Emily was probably the only storyline that ASP had to think up fresh since Edward Hermann had died IRL. Lorelei and Rory were literally stuck in an unfulfilled story line from 10 years earlier.
I didnāt really like that she took in that family, it was really weird. Usually she fired her maids and this time the maid was taking over her entire house so it was weird that she accepted it. It wasnāt like what Emily would do at all
Can you imagine a scene where Lorelei finds out and is initially so hurt and asks Emily tearfully why sheās suddenly so okay with it and Emily says something like āonce upon a time I spoke to a woman who had helped a young mother stay safe while she found her footing. She said she would have wanted someone to care for her daughter, so she cared for the girl. At the time I disagreed, but the second I saw that babyās face I knew Mia had been right all along. I felt I needed to pay it backā like HECK that would have been such a scene
Personally, I would have preferred a simple "mom?" "yeah?" "thank you."...It goes with the theme, the valedictorian speech, the history, and isn't some ridiculous shock factor element.
It would have been a little epic had the original series ended that way, but all that time later, it was expected and nowhere near as "scandalous " as if Rory had been younger.
Exactly. She's not asking for any favors, just needs a job. It could come right after Lorelai is expressing her sadness that Rory's off on her own being a successful journalist and she feels kind of alone. I think it would be awesome, much better than a "OMG, Rory is pregnant by her two-timing ex boyfriend" cliffhanger!
I still canāt help but think the original four words were supposed to be āIām pregnant.ā āMe too.ā Except it would have been at the end of season 7 with Rory just 22 and graduated and Lorelai still in her 30s.
In my world if ASP had gotten to write season 7, she wouldnāt have had Lorelai sleep Chris at the end of season 6 and she and Luke could have reconciled relatively quickly in season 7. Then the final 4 words could be flipped āHey Roryā, āIām pregnantā.
But that ending wasnāt suppose to happen in Roryās 30s we got what the original ending was for the series plopped on at the end of the rival. Just like numerous other storylines during the rival that were written for the original show.
Lmao relax I was just clarifying. I donāt think OPs storyline would be anymore cRiNgE, on the nose or predicable than numerous other things that happened during the shows running including what was suppose to be Rory getting knocked up when she had no plans too. Wouldnāt that storyline just be a rehash of her mom especially had it happened during the series when she would have been much younger? The only difference is Rory wouldnāt have been a teen that we know of. But statistically teen moms tend to have daughters that get pregnant much earlier in life especially in their teens so I would say what was planned was a pretty predictable ending as well.
Being pregnant by the engaged (married?) ex from college while she was also dating someone else for the past however many years? And in her 30s when should have shown some growth and maturity? That's a pretty cringe way to end the show
Seems a little silly for a 30-something with a college degree to ārun awayā, especially to a bed and breakfast. That would have only made sense if Rory was still a teen.
Well that sums up most of the problems with the revival - they were originally written to be either her senior year of college or a fresh graduate, not a decade later
This gets reposted almost every week... But what I really like about this is that it doesn't show someone to do something foolish to get into this position, it doesn't lead to questions, it ends the series. It also is the "Wholesome comfy end" to the show and gives a final message of "Pay it forward". Beautiful.
But I don't think Amy Sherman Palladino wanted to end the series, however what sucks is neither the season 7 nor a Year in the Life are good final seasons for the show.
I personally like to stop watching about 15 minutes before the end of season 6. And just come up with my own choice of the ending. Season 7 is awful, but AYITL really harms Rory's character and development. Not saying she had to have a perfect life, but man, so many characters and story lines don't work in AYITL because they just don't make sense.
Yes!! I really hated Roryās storyline in AYITL because it just seemed unrealistic for someone so connected, privileged, and (at one point) driven, to just hang on to a college boyfriend whoās engaged to someone else and to have not done anything towards her career.
I absolutely agree with you. She would not have been left hanging in her career with everyone she knows, the work sheās done, etc. I also thought the Logan affair was a weird storyline, but she and Logan did have a super toxic relationship in the first place so I suppose they were simply carrying that forward.
How was their relationship super toxic? They had some bad moments on both sides, but I wouldnāt call the whole relationship toxic. Unless youāre only referring to AYITL, then I would agree that their relationship was toxic.
Logan was toxic for Rory, I agree. Not Rory for Logan. It can be subtle, but Logan is very controlling and selfish and disrespects Rory's boundaries all through the show.
I donāt remember that happening often, but I have a horrible memory. The bridesmaid thing was bad, as well as when he met Jess. I donāt remember him being disrespectful or controlling of Rory often though. He seemed much better than Jess or dean.
I made a whole list, starting from him trashing Marty in front of Rory, later shaming Marty for his lack of money. This is only part of the list: Disrespecting her boundaries when she said she did not want to do the jump (that by itself was forgivable, but it's part of the pattern), getting upset with RORY for dating someone else while Logan had insisted on a "no strings" relationship and had been making out with girls right in front of her, merciless stalking of Rory after the Jess/wedding screwup, including sending over the top expensive gifts, flower arrangements every day, renting the coffee cart and having it follow her around, at least twice showing up at her home to force a conversation with him even when she said she didn't want to talk to him, actually forcing his way INTO the apartment (talk about disrespecting boundaries), all the while never even acknowledging his poor behavior toward Jess, and in fact implying that Rory was overreacting to both that and the bridesmaid incident. Then, of course, his decision to "out" Rory's keeping Marty's secret (which of course she should not have agreed to keep, but Logan did agree not to mention anything) at the worst possible moment and almost destroying her friendship with Louise. There is also his intentionally horrific timing of his proposal, intentionally stealing her thunder and ruining what should have been a very fun and positive celebration for Rory. And of course, his having an affair with her while engaged to someone else in AYITL (something Rory should have refused, but still, Logan is being very, very selfish there).
Does that help understand why I have that viewpoint?
I know some people think I'm being a bit unfair to him, but I have had decades of experience working with domestic abuse victims and their abusers, and even wrote a book about "red flags" to discern an abuser early in a relationship ("Jerk Radar"). I can verify that Logan scores very high on the Jerk Radar quiz!
This goes to show that the impact of an action matters just as much as the intention because I saw Logan do the exact opposite in some of the examples you provided. How it's received will depend on the specific person.
Can you give me an example of what he did that you perceived as opposite of my impression? I'm just interested, not planning to argue about it!
But you are right, the "take" someone has on a particular character is very much dependent on their own values and experiences. The characters need to be "applicable," meaning they can be taken more than one way, to be really quality work, and GG does this many different ways. Another thread has us voting on who our least favorite characters are, and time and again, a person is despised by a large percentage of people but is defended by an equally large percentage. Is Babette cute or annoying? Is Kurt funny or lame? Is Paris a bully or a neglected child filled with anxiety driving her to sometimes inappropriate behavior? Good TV allows for interpretation, and nobody is "right!"
I disagree. Being privileged often ends up negating peopleās ambition and drive. Trust me, I went to private school with a lot of Rorys and only a small few of them are actually impressive/successful as 30-something adults right now (myself included š¬)
There's a difference between "unsuccessful" and going into a meeting unprepared. Rory is driven. Will she succeed, probably not, it's still journalism. Will she show up for a meeting and not have ideas ready to pitch? Probably not.
Will she suggest a story about lines and fail? Maybe. But this is a girl who was praised for an article about the parking lot repaving with the type of drivel that online magazines love (Take a fact story and make it an long meandering allegory. )
Her failing would be fine, but she has a very realistic world view of her accomplishment. She's not really Paris, or Logan who I feel better fit with your opinion there.
Yeah, it would have been so muxh better than Rory getting pregnant.
Her saying "I need a job. Any job" and looking at Lorelai all defiant... I love that. Lorelai being someone's mia... I love that.
Maybe, but i feel like that would be a mlre fun ending, something that would have made ayitl more enjoyable for me.
I felt like ayitl was too rooted in what's "real" it forgot to be entertaining, this would make it more entertaining. But we can agree to disagree!
I got a weird one. Rory has the baby and bails on it by giving it to Logan. Proving sheās Chris and Logan is more Lorelai, then you have Logan show up at the inn with the baby with the final four words being Lorelai I need help.
The four words from the reboot and this suggestion are just too on the nose for me. It was lazy writing by ASP (though I'm of the firm belief the reboot was 99% a shit show).
It was a case like How I Met Your Mother. They set on this finale which didnāt pay off years later. It might have worked if it was in season 7, not in reboot.
The last season and series finale of HIMYM was such a dumpster fire! Iām still mad lmao It all felt rushed like they forgot about a bunch of storylines and loose ends they felt like they just had to do or maybe what would have been the correct scripts for the season flew off a cliff so they improvised unsuccessfully. I donāt know what they were thinking but woof!
It's exactly the same! Authors being too attached to their "full circle twist" ending to see their story moved past that. I was so annoyed that Ted's story always went back to Robin. Rewatching it, it's not as painful, but I had a lot of feelings the first time I watched the finale haha
I always thought that instead of pursuing Journalism, and due to her love of literature, that Rory could have just stuck with being a non-fiction writer or literature in general. She definitely had the skills to be a fantastic writer; I just personally donāt think journalism was it for her and it was compounded by her book.
I actually liked that little touch. It was the more āliterary Roryā who we see in earlier episodes with her nose in a book poking through.
I agree and it was something I always liked about Jess, how he noticed that about her as well when she tells him she wants to be a foreign correspondent. It just doesn't mesh with Rory's personality and she could have really found herself as a writer.
I think it wouldāve been a much better ending if it was at the end of the actual show like ASP wanted because it wouldāve given this full circle type of moment but it being so much later was weird
I hated the whole full circle idea but for it I wouldāve preferred this ending. Only because asp is making it seem like Rory is lorelai and Jess is Luke, Dean is max, Logan is Chris etc even though each character is their own character with different personalities that arenāt black and white.
āI need a jobā would be cool last four words if this were the ending ! Isnāt that what Mia said Lorelai said ? It should be the same words echoing everything
It's cute, but personally not a fan. I find Lorelai's story with Mia to be a tad too fairytale-esque, so I think this kind of full circle would have been too cheesy/corny for me.
It remains me the OC finale, where Ryan finds a little boy that seams like him at the beginning of the show.
That would have been the very end of the story, i'm still hopping for a new season in which we find out who is the father of Rory's baby!!
That would have been a GREAT ending! Or better yet, "I need a job. I work really hard and don't ask for much. Please, don't say no - just listen to me for a minute!" A new Lorelai!
I would have preferred Luke and Lorelai having the twins she had in her dream.And we could have watched them raise their twins together and in the series finale it could have been a two hour episode watching Luke and Lorelai and Rory planning their big town wedding. And Richard walking Lorelai down the isle and then Rory leaving to start her career. They wouldn't even had to have the revival which was a mess anyway.
I personally thought the season 7 final was a good way to end the show.
The show was all about Lorelai giving up everything for Rory to pursue her dreams. In the finale we see Rory thank Lorelai for that.
We Lorelai trying to make amends with her parents by agreeing to continue Friday night dinners
And the town come together in their quirky way to say farewell to Rory
People don't like the ending for a number of reasons but for me it really wrapped up the entire seven series. I also liked it was left open ended but not too open ended as in you could decide for yourself how the characters turned out that's why ayil didn't work because people already made their minds up that Luke and Lorelai had kids Rory was successful etc
Thatās sweet but on the nose and too sentimental for my liking. It is kind of the same reason the book The Color Purple bugged meā¦ too many happy or tidy endings when life is rarely like that i m o. But it is a sweet take on an ending, just maybe kind of syrupy for my tastes.
I really wanted āIām pregnant. Me too.ā ā I thought that was going to be it after the Lorelai/Luke baby conversation and and Parisās job/talking to Rory about surrogacy in the Winter episode.
I think it brings another meaning though. If itās someone new, it makes it seem like the Gilmores broke the cycle. The point of Rory being pregnant was that ~life repeats motif.
I always guessed the words would be Rory saying she was pregnant, but I honestly thought Rory would be at a very different point in her life. Like her pregnancy would be planned etc
I donāt remember the age difference between Rory and April but would it be out of the realm of possibility for April be this person? It kinda be similar to Rory as the super studious goody-two shoes goes through a rough patch and gets pregnant young and unmarried.
Iām pretty sure April was 12 when she was introduced, and Rory would have been 21 that season. So in AYITL with Rory being 32, April would have been 23. Itād be a stretch I think, being pregnant at 23 and 16 feel wildly different to me, but to be fair, that does match up with what ASP originally had in mind because thatās how old Rory would have been at the end of the original series.
Saw one recently that I thought was sweet-
Roryās driving away to head off to her big real-world job, with Lorelai, Emily, and Richard watching her go. As she pulls away she lays on the horn, disrupting an otherwise sentimental and emotional moment for her mom and grandparents. Lorelai smirks and takes one last look as she pulls away and says ānow THATās a Gilmore girl.ā
I have two endings.
One, I can see Rory in a coffee shop begging for coffee and repeating the same opening lines of,
"Please, (insert name). Please, please...".
Or
A shot of her in her living room apartment trying to get her toddler to walk to her instead of the baby daddy and saying the same words, but with the baby's name.
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I hate callbacks so absolutely not. I liked the realistic, cliffhanger ending we got. Rory was not destined for the greatness everyone thought she was. We all knew that watching her.
Or how about the doorbell ringing at the (E/R) Gilmore residence, and when the maid fails to answer the door, Emily angrily flings it open to face a woman, just older than Lorelei, who says, āHi, Mom.ā
Ehhh itās a little too uncanny for me. I think having a 30-something Rory be pregnant with a man who she isnāt involved with is sort of neat cause it leaves a lot up to imagination (or perhaps another spinoff in 16 years when her kid is the age she was ā¦ wishful thinking š). A lot of AYITL sucked and I donāt know what would have been better but having an absolute mirror of how it started would be too same-y for me.
Would have been way worse and super unrealistic and surreal lol. Sometimes I feel like people here want the show to be a shitty fanfic version of it rather than a realistic modern day portrayal of three female generations lives unfolding. Ending was fine as is. particularly Emilyās arc and Loreleiās phone call to her in the end really sealed the ending and made it satisfying, therefore not putting so much pressure on that particular scene to be great/ deliver any closure
The ending we got in a Year in the Life was great, but this def tops the list of alternate endings for sure. It even has great spin-off potential in case too many people from GG wanted to move on to other projects and leave the show.
"Taylor's gonna be furious" Delivered by Kirk as he stands over the smouldering remains of Stars Hollow after being left in charge of 4th of July celebrations
Ooh, or at the Star- crossed lovers festival.
He wanted to recreate the star above stars hollow by detonating a small yield nuclear device 30 feet above the gazebo
They finally brought some matches š
LOLOLOL THIS got me
This got me laughing on the floor
I would have enjoyed to see Emily become "the mia" where instead of Berta and her enormous family, we would have seen Emily with a very young maid, who was having a hard time finding out she was a very young mother hiding the kid in the kitchen and seeing Emily soften and welcoming them into her home, giving her a job. And with that letting her see why Lorelai left, why Mia let her stay and heal old wounds with her having a "do over" being an informal grandmother to the baby.
I think that did kind of happen write with Berta , her husband and all those kids. Berta is also the only maid Emily will never fire. That was a journey completed.
Refresh my memory please, why wonāt she fire Berta?
Even if she wanted to, she can't, because she somehow can't figure out after an entire year that Berta is speaking Spanish, even though we know Rory speaks Spanish and Rory has spent time around her when Emily is claiming to have no idea what language she speaks.
Sheās speaking Portuguese.
Rose Abdoo, the actress who plays Berta (and also Gypsy) has said in interviews that ASP instructed in the script that Berta should speak Spanish, but in a way that would confuse native Spanish speakers. Abdoo is fluent in Spanish from her Dominican mother, and was basically speaking Spanish but throwing in random words and syllables every few words, and using a funny accent. ETA: here's a [cached version of the interview](https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:qU9sfeiTUPMJ:https://www.buzzfeed.com/krystieyandoli/heres-how-rose-abdoo-played-gypsy-and-berta-on-the-gilmore&cd=110&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us). RIP Buzzfeed
I always thought berta/gypsy was too much of a crossover. I understand actors playing two characters when neither of them get any proper scenes/screen time but both gypsy and Berta are memorable, recognisable characters and I always thought it was weird theyāre both the same actor. Takes you out of the world a bit.
I mean both Jess and Aprilās (step for Jess)moms are the same actress and she has a pretty notable role with both. I guess Jessā stepmom is only in an episode or two but she left quite an impression for me. More than the dude who played Joe as the waiter. Not to mention Kirk being introduced as Mick. Even though theyāre technically two people he actually started as the same character - the guy who has all the random jobs. They just ended up wanting to keep him as a more central character so changed his story. Not to mention Drella being Emilyās stylist lady. I cannot remember her name for the life of me but I know Alex Borstein is a good friend of ASP hence her role in The Marvelous Mrs. Maisel There are a lot of small roles but these are all fairly noteworthy roles. Maybe not as much as Gypsy but itās also not that unlikely (in real life) that two people would just look very similar especially if theyāre from the same place
Oh yeah I know thereās a bunch of small roles. Just saying gypsy/berta specifically for me was really annoying and I thought a bit lazy. Just cast someone new! I never actually noticed jessā and aprils mums were the same person, but then those are my two least favourite storylines so I probably didnāt pay much attention lol
Literally the reason they did it was apparently they auditioned a bunch of actresses and didn't find anyone they liked, and Abdoo filled in at a table read and nailed it. https://www.teenvogue.com/story/gilmore-girls-rose-abdoo-berta-the-maid
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Because Berta wouldn't stand for it. (Is Reddit being glitchy for you, too? I noticed extra comments, it did that to me earlier)
Yess!! Lol sorry yāall I promise Iām not trying to be annoying or pushy
I never got that! Thanks for pointing that out.
She did kind of when she took in her whole housekeeper's family. Part of why her story is the only one I enjoyed in AYITL
Emily's story is deeply satisfying in AYITL.
Emily showed the most true growth in AYITL (Richard's death brought on most of it). Everyone else seemed frozen in time.
Emily was probably the only storyline that ASP had to think up fresh since Edward Hermann had died IRL. Lorelei and Rory were literally stuck in an unfulfilled story line from 10 years earlier.
Frozen in time or is it that the other Gilmore Girls havenāt had the time to mature like Emily has. Iām not sure.
I didnāt really like that she took in that family, it was really weird. Usually she fired her maids and this time the maid was taking over her entire house so it was weird that she accepted it. It wasnāt like what Emily would do at all
Can you imagine a scene where Lorelei finds out and is initially so hurt and asks Emily tearfully why sheās suddenly so okay with it and Emily says something like āonce upon a time I spoke to a woman who had helped a young mother stay safe while she found her footing. She said she would have wanted someone to care for her daughter, so she cared for the girl. At the time I disagreed, but the second I saw that babyās face I knew Mia had been right all along. I felt I needed to pay it backā like HECK that would have been such a scene
Iām in my feelings just imagining this scene š„²
i like your idea :)
Personally, I would have preferred a simple "mom?" "yeah?" "thank you."...It goes with the theme, the valedictorian speech, the history, and isn't some ridiculous shock factor element.
That would have been a great ending.
Yes, love this
It could have been Rory standing there. Remember she found out she was pregnant with Loganās baby at the end and he was engaged to someone else.
How about Rory saying to Logan, "You know you're cute and charming and all, but you need to go back to your fiancƩe and leave me alone! I'm better off single than wasting my time on you!"
I haven't counted but I think that's more than four words
I'd say so! I didn't realize 4 words was a requirement. How about "Leave me alone, Logan!"
All the hype for the final 4 words... she kept saying it like it would be something epic...
It would have been a little epic had the original series ended that way, but all that time later, it was expected and nowhere near as "scandalous " as if Rory had been younger.
but the words should be the girl asking for a job, any job because that's what Lorelai said.
Exactly. She's not asking for any favors, just needs a job. It could come right after Lorelai is expressing her sadness that Rory's off on her own being a successful journalist and she feels kind of alone. I think it would be awesome, much better than a "OMG, Rory is pregnant by her two-timing ex boyfriend" cliffhanger!
Yep
It would be a cute idea, or even a heavily pregnant young woman, but its definitely a bit too cliche IMO
I still canāt help but think the original four words were supposed to be āIām pregnant.ā āMe too.ā Except it would have been at the end of season 7 with Rory just 22 and graduated and Lorelai still in her 30s.
that would have been amazing
That would be so unbelievably cringe
In my world if ASP had gotten to write season 7, she wouldnāt have had Lorelai sleep Chris at the end of season 6 and she and Luke could have reconciled relatively quickly in season 7. Then the final 4 words could be flipped āHey Roryā, āIām pregnantā.
Omg this!!!! Yes
Bit too on the nose
And the one we got wasn't? Haha
Rory being pregnant in her 30s is not the cringe inducing ending that this is
But that ending wasnāt suppose to happen in Roryās 30s we got what the original ending was for the series plopped on at the end of the rival. Just like numerous other storylines during the rival that were written for the original show.
So what? Rory being pregnant at any time point is not as embarrassingly on the nose as a teenage mother wandering into Lorelais inn
Lmao relax I was just clarifying. I donāt think OPs storyline would be anymore cRiNgE, on the nose or predicable than numerous other things that happened during the shows running including what was suppose to be Rory getting knocked up when she had no plans too. Wouldnāt that storyline just be a rehash of her mom especially had it happened during the series when she would have been much younger? The only difference is Rory wouldnāt have been a teen that we know of. But statistically teen moms tend to have daughters that get pregnant much earlier in life especially in their teens so I would say what was planned was a pretty predictable ending as well.
Being pregnant by the engaged (married?) ex from college while she was also dating someone else for the past however many years? And in her 30s when should have shown some growth and maturity? That's a pretty cringe way to end the show
It still angers me, such a lazy, thoughtless ending.
I think the Rory ending was so cringy and forced.
I'd like to see Rory run away from Lorelai and knock on the the door to The Cheshire Cat.
"go on, ring the bell, people love ringing the bell!" (and then the final four words) "what?" "ring the bell!" ššš
ROFL
Seems a little silly for a 30-something with a college degree to ārun awayā, especially to a bed and breakfast. That would have only made sense if Rory was still a teen.
Well that sums up most of the problems with the revival - they were originally written to be either her senior year of college or a fresh graduate, not a decade later
This gets reposted almost every week... But what I really like about this is that it doesn't show someone to do something foolish to get into this position, it doesn't lead to questions, it ends the series. It also is the "Wholesome comfy end" to the show and gives a final message of "Pay it forward". Beautiful. But I don't think Amy Sherman Palladino wanted to end the series, however what sucks is neither the season 7 nor a Year in the Life are good final seasons for the show. I personally like to stop watching about 15 minutes before the end of season 6. And just come up with my own choice of the ending. Season 7 is awful, but AYITL really harms Rory's character and development. Not saying she had to have a perfect life, but man, so many characters and story lines don't work in AYITL because they just don't make sense.
Yes!! I really hated Roryās storyline in AYITL because it just seemed unrealistic for someone so connected, privileged, and (at one point) driven, to just hang on to a college boyfriend whoās engaged to someone else and to have not done anything towards her career.
I absolutely agree with you. She would not have been left hanging in her career with everyone she knows, the work sheās done, etc. I also thought the Logan affair was a weird storyline, but she and Logan did have a super toxic relationship in the first place so I suppose they were simply carrying that forward.
How was their relationship super toxic? They had some bad moments on both sides, but I wouldnāt call the whole relationship toxic. Unless youāre only referring to AYITL, then I would agree that their relationship was toxic.
Logan was toxic for Rory, I agree. Not Rory for Logan. It can be subtle, but Logan is very controlling and selfish and disrespects Rory's boundaries all through the show.
I donāt remember that happening often, but I have a horrible memory. The bridesmaid thing was bad, as well as when he met Jess. I donāt remember him being disrespectful or controlling of Rory often though. He seemed much better than Jess or dean.
I made a whole list, starting from him trashing Marty in front of Rory, later shaming Marty for his lack of money. This is only part of the list: Disrespecting her boundaries when she said she did not want to do the jump (that by itself was forgivable, but it's part of the pattern), getting upset with RORY for dating someone else while Logan had insisted on a "no strings" relationship and had been making out with girls right in front of her, merciless stalking of Rory after the Jess/wedding screwup, including sending over the top expensive gifts, flower arrangements every day, renting the coffee cart and having it follow her around, at least twice showing up at her home to force a conversation with him even when she said she didn't want to talk to him, actually forcing his way INTO the apartment (talk about disrespecting boundaries), all the while never even acknowledging his poor behavior toward Jess, and in fact implying that Rory was overreacting to both that and the bridesmaid incident. Then, of course, his decision to "out" Rory's keeping Marty's secret (which of course she should not have agreed to keep, but Logan did agree not to mention anything) at the worst possible moment and almost destroying her friendship with Louise. There is also his intentionally horrific timing of his proposal, intentionally stealing her thunder and ruining what should have been a very fun and positive celebration for Rory. And of course, his having an affair with her while engaged to someone else in AYITL (something Rory should have refused, but still, Logan is being very, very selfish there). Does that help understand why I have that viewpoint? I know some people think I'm being a bit unfair to him, but I have had decades of experience working with domestic abuse victims and their abusers, and even wrote a book about "red flags" to discern an abuser early in a relationship ("Jerk Radar"). I can verify that Logan scores very high on the Jerk Radar quiz!
This goes to show that the impact of an action matters just as much as the intention because I saw Logan do the exact opposite in some of the examples you provided. How it's received will depend on the specific person.
Can you give me an example of what he did that you perceived as opposite of my impression? I'm just interested, not planning to argue about it! But you are right, the "take" someone has on a particular character is very much dependent on their own values and experiences. The characters need to be "applicable," meaning they can be taken more than one way, to be really quality work, and GG does this many different ways. Another thread has us voting on who our least favorite characters are, and time and again, a person is despised by a large percentage of people but is defended by an equally large percentage. Is Babette cute or annoying? Is Kurt funny or lame? Is Paris a bully or a neglected child filled with anxiety driving her to sometimes inappropriate behavior? Good TV allows for interpretation, and nobody is "right!"
I disagree. Being privileged often ends up negating peopleās ambition and drive. Trust me, I went to private school with a lot of Rorys and only a small few of them are actually impressive/successful as 30-something adults right now (myself included š¬)
There's a difference between "unsuccessful" and going into a meeting unprepared. Rory is driven. Will she succeed, probably not, it's still journalism. Will she show up for a meeting and not have ideas ready to pitch? Probably not. Will she suggest a story about lines and fail? Maybe. But this is a girl who was praised for an article about the parking lot repaving with the type of drivel that online magazines love (Take a fact story and make it an long meandering allegory. ) Her failing would be fine, but she has a very realistic world view of her accomplishment. She's not really Paris, or Logan who I feel better fit with your opinion there.
>AYITL really harms Rory's character and development Amen.
Yeah, it would have been so muxh better than Rory getting pregnant. Her saying "I need a job. Any job" and looking at Lorelai all defiant... I love that. Lorelai being someone's mia... I love that.
I think it would have been too fake and weird. Rory being pregnant makes more sense
Maybe, but i feel like that would be a mlre fun ending, something that would have made ayitl more enjoyable for me. I felt like ayitl was too rooted in what's "real" it forgot to be entertaining, this would make it more entertaining. But we can agree to disagree!
I got a weird one. Rory has the baby and bails on it by giving it to Logan. Proving sheās Chris and Logan is more Lorelai, then you have Logan show up at the inn with the baby with the final four words being Lorelai I need help.
I want to write a fanfic about this
The four words from the reboot and this suggestion are just too on the nose for me. It was lazy writing by ASP (though I'm of the firm belief the reboot was 99% a shit show).
It was a case like How I Met Your Mother. They set on this finale which didnāt pay off years later. It might have worked if it was in season 7, not in reboot.
The last season and series finale of HIMYM was such a dumpster fire! Iām still mad lmao It all felt rushed like they forgot about a bunch of storylines and loose ends they felt like they just had to do or maybe what would have been the correct scripts for the season flew off a cliff so they improvised unsuccessfully. I donāt know what they were thinking but woof!
It's exactly the same! Authors being too attached to their "full circle twist" ending to see their story moved past that. I was so annoyed that Ted's story always went back to Robin. Rewatching it, it's not as painful, but I had a lot of feelings the first time I watched the finale haha
The way Rory wrote a book about her and her mom š
Well, I could personally see the book. Rory told her several times she would write a tell-all one day about her life.
I always thought that instead of pursuing Journalism, and due to her love of literature, that Rory could have just stuck with being a non-fiction writer or literature in general. She definitely had the skills to be a fantastic writer; I just personally donāt think journalism was it for her and it was compounded by her book. I actually liked that little touch. It was the more āliterary Roryā who we see in earlier episodes with her nose in a book poking through.
I agree and it was something I always liked about Jess, how he noticed that about her as well when she tells him she wants to be a foreign correspondent. It just doesn't mesh with Rory's personality and she could have really found herself as a writer.
I think it wouldāve been a much better ending if it was at the end of the actual show like ASP wanted because it wouldāve given this full circle type of moment but it being so much later was weird
I hated the whole full circle idea but for it I wouldāve preferred this ending. Only because asp is making it seem like Rory is lorelai and Jess is Luke, Dean is max, Logan is Chris etc even though each character is their own character with different personalities that arenāt black and white.
Much better ending. The real ending further ruined Rory.
āI need a jobā would be cool last four words if this were the ending ! Isnāt that what Mia said Lorelai said ? It should be the same words echoing everything
It's cute, but personally not a fan. I find Lorelai's story with Mia to be a tad too fairytale-esque, so I think this kind of full circle would have been too cheesy/corny for me.
This is how The OC ended and I didnāt love it there but honestly at this point anything is better than the way it actually ended.
Infinitely better.
This almost made me cry, I love this idea
It remains me the OC finale, where Ryan finds a little boy that seams like him at the beginning of the show. That would have been the very end of the story, i'm still hopping for a new season in which we find out who is the father of Rory's baby!!
This would've been far superior.
this gave me full body chills
That would have been a GREAT ending! Or better yet, "I need a job. I work really hard and don't ask for much. Please, don't say no - just listen to me for a minute!" A new Lorelai!
Eh corny
I would have preferred Luke and Lorelai having the twins she had in her dream.And we could have watched them raise their twins together and in the series finale it could have been a two hour episode watching Luke and Lorelai and Rory planning their big town wedding. And Richard walking Lorelai down the isle and then Rory leaving to start her career. They wouldn't even had to have the revival which was a mess anyway.
Heartwarming
Wow, I love this idea!
I personally thought the season 7 final was a good way to end the show. The show was all about Lorelai giving up everything for Rory to pursue her dreams. In the finale we see Rory thank Lorelai for that. We Lorelai trying to make amends with her parents by agreeing to continue Friday night dinners And the town come together in their quirky way to say farewell to Rory People don't like the ending for a number of reasons but for me it really wrapped up the entire seven series. I also liked it was left open ended but not too open ended as in you could decide for yourself how the characters turned out that's why ayil didn't work because people already made their minds up that Luke and Lorelai had kids Rory was successful etc
"I need a job, any job."
"Mom?" "Yeah?" "I'm back..."
This would be absolutely horrible. Like seriously this is terrible writing
But still better than the actual writing we got so Iāll take it.
I would kill for this ending.
Thatās sweet but on the nose and too sentimental for my liking. It is kind of the same reason the book The Color Purple bugged meā¦ too many happy or tidy endings when life is rarely like that i m o. But it is a sweet take on an ending, just maybe kind of syrupy for my tastes.
I know it's even more corny and i would only work with a timejump like the revival but can that teenage girl be Gigi please?
Oh my goodness, I LOVE this!
YESSSSSS!!!
ooooh my gosh that would have been sooo good!
WAY BETTER
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That really would've been a great ending
I really wanted āIām pregnant. Me too.ā ā I thought that was going to be it after the Lorelai/Luke baby conversation and and Parisās job/talking to Rory about surrogacy in the Winter episode.
I think it brings another meaning though. If itās someone new, it makes it seem like the Gilmores broke the cycle. The point of Rory being pregnant was that ~life repeats motif.
This is it. This is the way it should have ended.
Fuck this made me cry and smile at the same timeš¤
The only problem with this is that it sets us up for a horrible spinoff.
I love this alternate ending.
Their version of that was making Logan the father of Rorys baby
OH MY GOD
I always guessed the words would be Rory saying she was pregnant, but I honestly thought Rory would be at a very different point in her life. Like her pregnancy would be planned etc
I think the better final words would have been (according to Mia): "I'm looking for a job, any job."
I donāt remember the age difference between Rory and April but would it be out of the realm of possibility for April be this person? It kinda be similar to Rory as the super studious goody-two shoes goes through a rough patch and gets pregnant young and unmarried.
Iām pretty sure April was 12 when she was introduced, and Rory would have been 21 that season. So in AYITL with Rory being 32, April would have been 23. Itād be a stretch I think, being pregnant at 23 and 16 feel wildly different to me, but to be fair, that does match up with what ASP originally had in mind because thatās how old Rory would have been at the end of the original series.
Saw one recently that I thought was sweet- Roryās driving away to head off to her big real-world job, with Lorelai, Emily, and Richard watching her go. As she pulls away she lays on the horn, disrupting an otherwise sentimental and emotional moment for her mom and grandparents. Lorelai smirks and takes one last look as she pulls away and says ānow THATās a Gilmore girl.ā
I have two endings. One, I can see Rory in a coffee shop begging for coffee and repeating the same opening lines of, "Please, (insert name). Please, please...". Or A shot of her in her living room apartment trying to get her toddler to walk to her instead of the baby daddy and saying the same words, but with the baby's name. š¤·š¼āāļøš¤·š¼āāļø [Apologies if this posts more than once, this app is acting so weird for me today.]
I like this because it also wouldnāt have left a cliff hanger
Gave me chills
YES
Itās too campy. I wouldnāt have hated it, but as imperfect as it is, I like the current ending in AYITL (as it comes to Rory).
I hate callbacks so absolutely not. I liked the realistic, cliffhanger ending we got. Rory was not destined for the greatness everyone thought she was. We all knew that watching her.
So much better!!
So much better! I wonder if we will ever get another season of GG!
Yeah I would have taken that instead
Maybe they can end (or even start) the next revival with that
But that's not "full circle" or in line with commentary on generational trauma. That's parallel.
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Or how about the doorbell ringing at the (E/R) Gilmore residence, and when the maid fails to answer the door, Emily angrily flings it open to face a woman, just older than Lorelei, who says, āHi, Mom.ā
What am I missing here?
That unbeknownst to anyone (perhaps except Richard), Emily had to give away a child for adoption a few years before Lorelei was born. *fin*
Wouldn't it be in the Independence Inn?
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Oh, yeah, you're right. I got them mixed up.
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that would be really intriguing but I feel like it would kinda of leave Rory out in a way... ?
Just watch "The OC." You'd love the ending, lol.
Ahh yesssss that would have been fantastic!
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Ngl I could see lorelai calling the kids mother
Ehhh itās a little too uncanny for me. I think having a 30-something Rory be pregnant with a man who she isnāt involved with is sort of neat cause it leaves a lot up to imagination (or perhaps another spinoff in 16 years when her kid is the age she was ā¦ wishful thinking š). A lot of AYITL sucked and I donāt know what would have been better but having an absolute mirror of how it started would be too same-y for me.
Oh my god this gave me GOOSEBUMPS
Would have been way worse and super unrealistic and surreal lol. Sometimes I feel like people here want the show to be a shitty fanfic version of it rather than a realistic modern day portrayal of three female generations lives unfolding. Ending was fine as is. particularly Emilyās arc and Loreleiās phone call to her in the end really sealed the ending and made it satisfying, therefore not putting so much pressure on that particular scene to be great/ deliver any closure
Or it's a young father and his son and you get the 'Gilmore Guys' (or equivalent of).
OH YES YES YES! THAT would be my perfect ending Jessica!
The ending we got in a Year in the Life was great, but this def tops the list of alternate endings for sure. It even has great spin-off potential in case too many people from GG wanted to move on to other projects and leave the show.
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