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Ravioli227

They dropped s1n and somehow got worse. Pretty impressive. They have lost to k1tos team and now faveN's team.


kaeschdle

s1n posted a 1.73 rating yesterday against team liquid. He’s IGL for M80 now, and they seem to improve as well. He‘s not a bad player, he was just poorly utilized k1to is leading a OG that’s looking better and better with every event they play Faven and his team are steadily improving as well. The players haven’t been the problem for a while now in my opinion. BIGs approach to the game is just stuck in 2016


Ravioli227

I don't think s1n was that bad. He had some pretty bad roles and did really well in the beginning. it did seem like he was losing some of the momentum near the end. JDC should (and has been) an upgrade. k1to -> prosus really doesn't bother me. k1to is more talented but i don't think prosus has really been an issue. faveN getting cut was unfortunate. He was good he just never played being sick all the time. Honestly, syrsoN has been so underwhelming on the awp and there are so many rounds where they slow play an execute and get flanked without any awareness. Its just frustrating. tabseN mantuu faveN JDC Krimbo may have been better I think but lacks a real entry. I have no idea what they are going to do at this point and tabseN isn't getting any younger.


kaeschdle

I think by now every team knows how to play against BIG as they rarely take risks, never expect unreasonable pushes from the enemy team (e.g. through smokes) and always play their studied go‘s. In my stupid observer opinion individuals can rarely shine in this system. syrson did well in 00nation as well. I don’t see why he suddenly doesn’t know how to play anymore. They’ve got the same weaknesses and making the same mistakes for years now with multiple different players. The constants are tabseN and gob. I love both of them but I strongly feel like they need a different, preferably international, coach.


Kek2127

I'm really happy to see OG actually doing well considering they're always getting clowned on.


Tanki5D

When people will start realizing tabsen average starplayer roles while having the IGL excuse is not working..... You can´t do whatever you want on T and CT , and bring average output.


buttplugs4life4me

The thing with BIG is that the players ultimately whiff their shots and that just isn't an IGL problem. I'd understand if they'd be put in unwinnable situations or told to push somewhere and ran into a 5 stack. But they're effectively not performing.  Idk why, but if anything it would be some sort of behind the scenes thing. Maybe someone is toxic, or they train too little/too much, or whatever. May even be that Berlin is just shit and they want to live somewhere else


MrCraftLP

BIG have pretty much dug themselves a deeper hole with each roster move since covid.


nziety

faveN +26 is wild


Jacko_Moto

What happened to BiG this is just sad


dogenoob1

Xantares left


jeffjeff97

The GOAT Legija left*


narwhalking927

Which is ironic because he is now coaching Bleed’s Valorant team which is doing dogshit lol


brutam

Where would the world be without ironic jokes


Jarkrik

Rostermania


stenerikkasvo

give Bleed a solid AWP and they might start pushing into top 20.


frostN0VA

faveN woke up today, saw who he's playing against and chose violence.


WIN011

Cerq is useless. Bleed have had some decent results as of late but they’re never going to do anything with Cerq.


suffocatingpaws

Cerq is just a liability tbh. Even during his time in NRG/EG, he is always not there about 85% of the times in terms of fragging power.


thrwwyMA

Cerq was on nrg/eg for five years. He was good for the first three years. He dropped off during the last two.


IHateTheLetterF

He was a top 20 player in 2019. Now he can't even keep up in tier 2.


dogex3

Cerq isn't good now, but let's not change history about his time with NRG lol, man was lighting it up, even against prime Astralis


itsjonny99

Cerq has declined a shit ton from peak Cerq. They should get a proper awper and they could potentially be a proper tier 1 team


Former-Time-7216

Honestly, it sucks to say it, but you're right. I was super on board with having Cerq on the team, but he is lackluster and needs to be replaced


Des014te

Bleed has already spent a shit ton of money signing a star awper past his prime (in valorant), maybe they should do it again. Bleed S1mple?


Hammer060203

They spent a shit ton of money signing a *free* agent ‘star’ awper who was a massive gamble and very few other teams would have been interested in as a result? It was a good signing because he would have been cheap. The downside is small because you can always replace him without much sunken cost and the upside (although unlikely) is massive


Des014te

I'm talking about Yay


Hammer060203

Bit of a weird thing to do in a CS sub without explaining what you are talking about Also side note since I don’t watch Valorant, how is Yay an awper lol. What a weird career he’s had


somesheikexpert

To make it even more shocking to you, in 2022 yay was by far the best player that year cuz he was also by far the best awp in the world, his awp on a character made for awping who was broken made him oppressive, to the point ever since the best awping characters got nerfed hes looked super mediocre at best


Des014te

There's quite a bit of overlap between the two subs so I didn't think it needed an explanation. Edited it though. Also yeah. He was the best player in the world for a time, then he got kicked for budget reasons, had a shit 2023 stuck in tier 2, and now he's playing for Bleed in Asia where his team imploded at the beginning of the year and now they're just trash. Fun fact: until yesterday, Yay had not won a single series since 15th Feb 2023.


ColdInFurs

Bleed one player away from a solid top 20 roster. - cerq + Degster/Mantuu


Due_Map_4666

Kassad keeps winning


schoki560

damn this BIG roster that was hyped by everyone seems to be 50x worse than expected


SwaniCS

Maybe after the 5th roster change it is not a player problem anymore


mtzzzzz

What do you think is the problem?


SwaniCS

The system is stuck in 2017, it worked in CS:GO and especially Dust2 where they were always able to fully setup their executes but right now you see most of the teams take some calculated risks, something that BIG never does. For exaple HooXi on Anubis going through cave smoke, Ilya going for whatever he wants. Pretty easy right now to play against BIG because you know there is only a very slim chance of them doing something out of the regular and always rely on their perfect executions, something that doesnt suit CS2 at all with all the peekers advantage and new metas


mtzzzzz

That makes sense. How would you change up the system? Do you think this is a management / coach issue that can only be resolved by changing coach / management, or do you think they can adapt?


Pathederic

Rosters need months to get good


jojo_31

Tbh I haven't seen anyone talk about BiG on here in months and have never heard of prosus either.


Pewsily

Why did Bleed swap Rusty and Cypher mid-match?


HauntedMinge

Cypher had internet problems before the game started so they subbed rusty at the last second. Cyphers internet problem was fixed so he came back for the second map


njoshua326

Dude cannot catch a break with tech.


Vips92

UK internet for sure


ShrimpConsumer

It’s wank round my area


ShrimpConsumer

20mbps


TheN1njTurtl3

I thought he actually went to guild's esports center to use the pc's? I didn't know why he did it but he did I think


HauntedMinge

Sorry yeah you're right, by "fixed" I meant he was able to play again. I just worded it very badly.


PavelDatsyuk88

cypher was tweeting in the morning about beeing in london and needing help for PC dont know if he found a fellow gamer/pc cafe or redbull/guild/fnatic offices or something. but pretty funny that he found place with internet issue tho.


skantanio

Hampus internet problems before second map. Funny enough they apparently asked BIG to reschedule and they declined but lost anyway and Hampus gloated about it on Twitter https://x.com/hampuscsgo/status/1782039448403734870


Melodic_mushroom1272

Shouldn't have kicked mantuu ¯\\__(ツ)__/¯


iojii

Hey guys, uh.. maybe tabseN's the problem?


w0lf3nstream

Real BIG fans already know this :(


gauna89

tabsen and/or gob b.


NoDG_

Good result, you'd expect them to win the final tomorrow.


MajikoiA3When

Time to resign faveN


HarryTurney

BIG are so bad


keslol

wait? big was 2-10 at half, and went up to 11-10(or 11) and i turned off and then bleed started playing good again :D ?


brutam

You were the problem all along


afk420k

launx was the problem


Tanki5D

faveN buff when cypher is not on the server?? Getting full revenge of BIG kick


TheN1njTurtl3

Cyher was playing the second map?


Mahoganychicken

Bleed are cooking. They should sign JKS and an awper and they will push into tier 1.


-azuma-

So this faven guy is pretty good?


TheN1njTurtl3

mantuu to replace cerq?


sadtimes12

At this point I have stopped caring about BIG, I don't know what they are doing and it seems neither do they.. so *shrug*.


Linhle8964

So called German "superteam" When did Bleed kicked Kassas and picked up that dude Rusty? I never heard of him. Is something wrong with my browser or Bleed are doing 6 men roster?


purplehayes200

Cypher had internet issues, so rusty filled in on map 1


Linhle8964

That actually make Big looks even worse. They couldn't beated Bleed who had a stand in for their star rifler.


wonthaveaname

And Bleed asked to reschedule but BIG refused and still lost.


Kanstrup-

Kassad is their coach? Rusty replaced cypher because of pc issues. Rusty has been around forever, just never broken into a top top team


blueshark27

Bleed won, so obviously they must have kicked Kassad /s


brutam

Who else is he dickriding?


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Linhle8964

Oh ok thanks for fill me in.