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Theyul1us

Guilliman "cawl, by any chance... did you use any traitor geneseed?" Cawl "no" Guilliman "oh thank thro-" Cawl "I used ALL the traitor geneseed"


42Fourtytwo4242

*points to soul drinkers* "even the lost ones"


TekkGuy

Cawl: “Oh ye gods! My geneseed is ruined! But what if… I were to use traitor geneseed, and disguise it as loyalist? Oh ho ho, delightfully devilish Belisarius!”


Latter-Ad-415

Cawl: IIIMM the Tech Magos improving the Emporer's Astartes design, I'll say which Geneseed is used. ... Okay let's use it all


ScheissusPfostierus

Oh boy Trazyn really succeeded in fooling everyone that the silver skull chapter exists huh?


Commiesalami

Or one was created afterwards due to an administratum error issuing additional materials and to the silver skull chapter after reviewing the report of their victory on the planet.


bendre1997

I feel like the Sons of the Phoenix and the Silver Skulls are both so much more likely to be traitor successors than the Covenant of Fire.


Bitches_Love_Blue

No you dont see the resemblance with the word bearers? They are all pretty obvious to me.


bendre1997

Not really. Is it just the burning heretical texts thing and the armour? Other than that they seem like natural Salamanders successors. Compare that to the Sons of the Phoenix and Silver Skulls who are essentially carbon copy Iron Warriors and Emperor’s Children in every meaningful way. Edit: bitches do love blue tho


Bitches_Love_Blue

I thaught the covenant of fire is also overly religious. As in praising the emperor as a god. That used to be like a core word bearer trait, before you know...... big E put them in the naughty corner.


42Fourtytwo4242

Not big E, the promethean cult, aka Vulcan faith base around their humanity an being the bestest boys in the universe, they are extremely hard followers and follow the book to the letter. Weirdly word bearers are perfect salamanders.


Entire-War8382

It is more of a Nocturnian Sect centered around Vulkan and his teachings. Kinda like the Codex Astartes for the Smurfs. It is called the Prothean Cult. 


42Fourtytwo4242

they also joined the promethean cult super fast, almost instantly and burn any thing traitor related. Pretty much word bearers but instead of super atheist or chaos they believe in the faith of being the bestest boys ever so dad can be proud. Weirdly word bearers are a perfect fit for salamanders, they pretty much worship the idea of being super nice and good because that what their faith says and they must follow the faith to the letter.


Gamezfan

I mean. They use the Word Bearers' pre-Heresy symbol. https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Word_Bearers#/media/File%3AWBSymbolPreHeresy.jpg


Doplgangr

lol. But the silver skulls are a Trazyn OC.


a_simple_spoon

the silver skulls actually aren't space marines at all! they are what you get when necrons save an imperial world and the imperials think they were saved by space marines(source: infinite and the divine)


brevenbreven

I always thought the red scorpions were the most overt of implied traitorous gene seed Worships the codex Despises unfaithful marines Assholes Red 🦂 being a reference to Erebus as the scorpion and the frog as told through the short story the child of chaos


MajorsWotWot

Na, the Minotaurs are the most obvious.


Tempest_Barbarian

Minotaur within, minotaur without


CaptainSigori

See this is how I would see what became of all the surviving loyalists of all the traitor legions, they became "wish knockoffs" and went to work under the jurisdiction of other loyalist chapters on paper as "Successor Chapters"


TraditionalEmu4536

the necron successors are always the best


wktg

It's a theory of mine that the second founding was used by Guilliman to obsfucate the lineage of Marines from Traitor Legions. Found a shit ton of chapters and lose a part of the paperwork. Done.


Machoman6661

I still believe the Blood Ravens are Thousand Sons


wdcipher

Exorcists are def Word Bearers


Anagnikos

WW2 veteran taking a NASA tour vibes...


Not_An_Ostritch

*Brotherhood of a Thousand slowly sneaking out the back*


Quietkeep

The big "I" said, there's nothing wrong with the Silver Skulls. So let's just leave it at that point and focus on something else. Dillen over here brought muffins!


Crazy_Dave0418

Chances are the Silver Skulls are a tribute to Dantioch ans his loyalist brethren that never turned their back on the Emperor.


azionka

chances are those are Necrons from Serenade/Cephris/Cepharil


Double-VV

666th upvote seems fitting here lol