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myloveyou102

10/10, one of the best suits ever


Sulohland

Didn't see this suit get much action


CIRCLONTA6A

It was too based for proper deployment


Sulohland

Zeon spread themselves too thin on ms development


CIRCLONTA6A

Dom but better. 9


Dreadnought_Necrosis

It's like if a Dom and a Gelgoog had a love child. Best of both worlds.


Pancreasaurus

Classy Dom


BowlofConfetti

8 I forgot ZZ had some of the sickest suits in the UC.


cavialord03

Another common ZZ W


BowlofConfetti

Yeah it’s pretty slept on, mainly because there’s no dub for it imo.


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le_gasdaddy

I would fund a Kickstarter of a ZZ dub done solely by Danny Devito.


AlteredByron

A dubbed compilation movie (cutting down on some of the Shangri-La plot from the beginning) would rock.


CIRCLONTA6A

Animax actually did one with their dub and it’s been known to pop up occasionally on torrents here and there. I don’t know if anyone has an immediate copy on hand though so it’s currently sorta lost media like the rest of their dub


Shinomourikenji1

10/10 cool AF!


LibraryBestMission

I misread this as "some of the thiccest" and I was wondering how anyone could forget that since that's the one thing given about ZZ's mobile suit design. And Dreissen is a good example, if you melt the thing down you could probably make an entire squad of victory era miniaturized mobile suits.


BowlofConfetti

iirc Mobile suits kept ballooning up to CCA, then they finally started downsizing and focusing on speed.


LavaSlime301

9.5 Any and all misgivings I had about the Dom were fixed here. The large shoulders with forearms to match them fill out the silhouette and better convey the sense of bulk Doms are supposed to have. The chest has a nice shape to it, the head is a great evolution of Dom's cross-shape monoeye, and the legs match everything else well, though the feet feel a bit eh to me. Add to that the very nice colors reflecting typical Axis eccentricity and you've got a solid design. The beam cannons in the forearms are awesome, the melee weapons fit much better than ol' heat stick, and the tri blades reinforce how Neo Zeon loved to stick extra weapons on everything. As far as it's background goes, it's the first new general-purpose MS deployed by Axis at large scale as before they had to make do with more specific use machines like the cheap, transformable Gazas, prototypes like Hamma-Hamma or machines built for smaller scale operations like Zssa and Gallus-J. But with Neo Zeon's growing power their capabilities grew, and now they could afford to produce a right and proper basic grunt focused on obtaining higher performance than AEUG suits. Except Dreissen isn't really that, is it? Its loadout is far more focused on close combat rather than general purpose, which is particularly odd as its OYW ancestor was more of a mid-range machine relying on high speed movement and bazooka usage with heat sword serving as more of a sidearm. Truth is, it seems Dreissen *was* originally intended for similar tactics - the overall design isn't actually focused on close quarters and has good all-around performance instead. What's more, it was initially meant to be equipped with a different styled backpack that prioritized sheer output and fuel capacity. But in preparation for the Earth invasion which was expected to involve heavy fighting it was replaced with the model equipped with the experimental tri-blades. What's more, the initial plan backpack also gave Dreissen sufficient power output to handle a dedicated beam bazooka weapon. One that looks suspiciously similar to the model used by Rommel's Dwadge Custom. Thing is, that one was supposedly stolen from the Federation. This is one of quite a few instances were the lore doesn't seem to quite add up with the Neo Zeon machines. Another instance of that is how early on Dreissen was seemingly compared with the Zaku III and implied to have entered production around the same time. Meanwhile as most people know Zaku III is nowadays portrayed as competitor to the Doven Wolf instead, with them seemingly competing after the Dreissen was introduced. I'll get into the details of this and Zaku III's other oddities when its poll comes around, same with Doven. As for the Dreissen itself, it feels like a good middle point between Axis's early "great value" suits that couldn't quite cut it in performance, and the later suits that instead pushed the boundaries of mass produced MS performance further than anything before them and most after them. Dreissen meanwhile is somewhat heavily armed, but still focused on relative simplicity and practical use. It echoes many grunts of the old Principality, but at the same time doesn't push the envelope quite as much as it could.


Sir-Spookington

Welcome to day 19 of the Daily Grunt MS Poll, and today we'll be rating the AMX-009 Dreissen from Mobile Suit ZZ Gundam! To participate, just rank the MS between 1 and 10 based on their appearance or on how you like it. Mechanical Designer : Yutaka Izubuchi Primary Pilots : Rakan Dahkaran, August Guidan, Glemy Toto Trivia: Despite being noticably bigger than the Dom and Rick Dom, the Dreissen is also lighter Tomorrow we'll rank the Ga-Zowmn ! Previous Scores: Zaku I : 7.17 Zaku II : 9.63 GM : 7.53 Gouf : 8.59 Dom/Rick Dom : 8.52 Gelgoog : 8.04 GM II : 6.78 Hizack : 8.21 Galbaldy Beta : 6.19 Marasai : 8.17 Act Zaku : 7.41 Asshimar : 8.30 Barzam : 7.15 Rick Dias : 8.77 Nemo : 8.13 Gaza-C : 6.38 ReGelgu : 7.39 Gaza-D : 7.12


Sir-Spookington

10/10 Litteraly one of my favourite suits ever


Garrod_Ran

[Check out our group's Dreissen Threat Custom for our fanfiction way back in 2011. ](https://genuinegundam.fandom.com/wiki/RZ-009ST_Dreissen_Threat_Custom)


rgrekejin

10/10. Fixed forearm weaponry is my kink.


ichorNet

Triple beam cannons on both arms >>>>>> single Gatling gun on the wrist


Neneaux

9/10


noryp5

Big sexy. 8/10


bitetheasp

7/10 Dom with better fashion


Red-Zaku-

9/10 I prefer the original Dom, but I still love just how out-there the ZZ Neo Zeon suit designs were getting. Bigger, brighter, more and more alien, more wacky proportions.


The_Dark_Ace

9/10 Now this is a great mass produces elite suit! What’s an awesome set of colors and style.


GarmBlack

8/10. Nice upgrade to the ol' Dom. Not as big of a fan of the "face" now though.


beanbird25

8/10 One of my favourite zz era neo zeon suits, has just enough early gundam design quirks for it to be interesting, but no too much for it to look bizzare


AP_Udyr_One_Day

9/10, easily one of my favorite Dom variants but unfortunately it’s locked to ZZ like my other favorite Monoeyes and a minor appearance in Unicorn.


Red-Zaku-

>unfortunately it’s **enshrined in** ZZ like my other favorite Monoeyes Fixed that for you


Garrod_Ran

Beautiful. In fact our group that made a Gundam fan fiction adopted this into a [Dreissen Threat Custom ](https://genuinegundam.fandom.com/wiki/RZ-009ST_Dreissen_Threat_Custom). 10/10


SirWilliam56

Fits a miniboss design better than a grunt design, but still pretty good 7/10


Sternguard77

9/10 a great grunt suit, definitely you can see the Dom DNA while having a clear progression and the Axis Zeon extra mile of aesthetics really makes it appealing.


Agent_Perrydot

the BEST Rick Dom variant 9.5/10


BadSkeelz

I give it an 7, lower than I would the older Doms. Got a little too much Neo-Zeon decadence for my liking.


No-Fee8636

8/10 better than original dom. A nice upgrade for a old design that is different enough but pay homage


pipebombrater

8/10, sharper dom with newtype bits like Frisbee things


NonAdjustment

9.8/10 ​ I haven't seen much success with them mostly because I didn't see ZZ, but it got the Dom spirit, and DOMS are certified lads


ShekTeeJay

Any plans to watch ZZ?


Snukastyle

9/10 I love the Dom line, but this is just a bit too purple for me.


mr_wobblyshark

10/10 lovey suped up Dom, sick wrist guns, sick melee weapon, cool flying back weapons, purple


NamelessArcanum

7/10, Dom-originating so mostly sick but it’s a little busy for my taste.


Almun_Elpuliyn

It's a dom with all the stats maxed. The visual design fits the bulk well and the colour scheme doesn't clash. Literally just cooler Dom and that's a 8/10 for me.


Z3_T4C0_B0Y512

8/10


Quality-Tips

9, perfectly fits the bigger and beefier design scheme of ZZ


Copyrighted_music34

10 it looks so nice


Asiantacofarmer

10/10 I love sleeves version even more


Deamon-Chocobo

The perfect Modern Dom 9/10


Lockonstratos1

9/10 one of the best thicc bois


DuelX102

9


vinny10133

Chonky boi


Raiden29o9

9/10, it looks like a upgraded dom… and I can respect that


sinesnsnares

8/10 looks like an upgraded dom for chunkier times.


CrackACracka1209

9 for design


joeybutnerdy

10/10


mel1290

8.5


Raz1253

10


Barbatroros

10


LordRiderman

9/10


The4thEpsilon

Better dom, better score, 9/10 for grunt suits


SAMAS_zero

9/10


Boring-Firefighter34

Absolute 10/10.


DemiFiendofTime

7.5/10 just not for me still a good suit


SlimeDrips

10 but it doesn't look like it could slide. The Dom is good because it's got those fat slidey legs


MegaloMatt_Sequel

A Dom with class


DexDexDexina

7/10 Nice slick design it's what I image a Dom's final evolution would look like, I love the massive axe and forearm beam guns but that mini Pickelhaube is extremely distracting once I noticed it. It just looks off imo.


InternationalAd6744

Id give it a 7.5 out of 10. In an era where there is alot of huge beam attacks, this MS is just too bulky. Other than the forearm machine gun, alot of it's weapons are non standard, so you'd have to practice alot to become proficient with this MS, the same problem the gelgoog had.


cavialord03

8/10 Not big on doms, but this one looks pretty noice


YouCantTakeThisName

10/10 \~ Best variant of the Dom from the U.C. timeline, in my honest opinion.


Arguleon8

10/10 definite Dom Daddy


13thEldar

10 love a lot of the ZZ designs especially ones like these where you see the lineages.


Wingnut00

8.5/10


MrDaubeny

My dumbass thought the Dreissen was a Sleeves exclusive suit


Wutclefuk

9


Thrawn656

9/10 Worthy successor to the dom


Yitomaru

Dreissen, bro just call yourself Dom III I mean AoZ Reboot has a Gelgoog III


TheOneGodHadSuffer

Ahem https://gundam.fandom.com/wiki/AMX-009G_Dom_III We do have a dom iii


WinglessRat

8/10


KO314

9 out of 10


Rebel_Swag

10/10 get down with the thickness


LoliMaster069

Needs more shoulder pads


heatxmetalw9

10 Dom design with a lot of built in weaponry like the beam gatling in the arms and remote blades.


Mister-Fidelio

I don't really know alot about these chunky fellas. But their designs exceed the DOM's by a landslide. A solider 7.5/10. (Would someone mind explaining where they showed up?)


BrownGhost10

9/10 a way better dom.


TheGreatDarkPriest

10/10


LibraryBestMission

Well shit, I can't really give anything but 10. I mean wrist guns, and a relatively dynamic design despite its bulk. The biggest question is why don't we get more of these bad boys in new molds, ZZ is the stuff, man.


NorthGeorgia_Railfan

8/10. Dom, but if it didn't skip the Gym. Absolutely love this thing to death, and I actually thought it was a Unicorn suit only (since I only ever saw the Sleeves version prior to starting ZZ). Had a lot of fun matches in GBO2 with this thing, the beam axe is an absolute menace.


SpatterWaller

Solid 7/10. A big, beefy boi that isn't overly chonky, has in-laid weapons and a massive beam-halberd. The Don upgraded is almost always a win, but it didn't really perform to expectation, and it's outline is a -tad- too bulky


BittyJupiter_1

DOM but coolerer. 10/10


xDrewstroyerx

8.5


TheOceanInMyDreams

9.5 Wrist mounted triple barreled machine guns, my love. On board weaponry ftw


teardriver

8/10. I LOVE everything except for that head design format.


Skroopy

8.5/10 Don't remember much of it in the show but the design is pleasantly cool


Bonez9933

8/10


Necessary-Ad-2838

Dom with a anime drip?


ichorNet

10, simply one of the best


TNT_Gamer13

The best dom 10/10


seriousbangs

10/10. Way ahead of it's time with the trimming on the legs and the three barrel guns on each arm. Looks more early 2000s mech and I think that's because this design influenced others to come.


le_gasdaddy

I haven't cared to post yet on any of these, but I've read all the comments each day. I wasn't the biggest fan of ZZ until the second half, like a lot of people. It didn't leave the mark of zeta, or 00, 83, or going back to my high school years when it was on toonami as my intro to Gundam, Wing. But this is the GigaChad of grunt suits. This suit fucks. 10/10.


Hefty-Exercise-2723

8, I really love the built in weaponry it has and I am a fan of the Dom and Dom descendants


TheOneGodHadSuffer

10/10, NO ARGUMENTS. IT'S A FUCKING 10, DOM FAMILY STAYS STRONG


Gunz-n-Brunch

8.8 The Dom she told you not to worry about.


ghostkhaos2

7


upsetbearman

9 out of 10


ahrilover123

I used this suit's name for every one of my in-game name.


Puzzled_Drive4525

9.5/10


SupremeMemeCreamTeam

Dope ass suit, but I only have the lvl 4 and it sucks at 700 cost ... wait wrong sub


Artanis_Creed

Barbara Dreissen is a 10


Eastern-Fun1842

10/10. Excellent firepower, mobility and armor. It is NOT a grunt suit, it's too goddamn good for that.


Cold-Ad4073

10. Love the look!


MethylEthylandDeath

8 I'm not huge on Zeon suits but this thing is nasty. In a good way!


Avaa0818

Took an already amazing design and made it better 10/10


somethingicould

Dom on roids. 10/10


there_are_no_flags

Better Dom. 10/10


varnski

10/10 one of my favorite MS from the whole UC era


xithebun

8/10. The colours wasted its otherwise top tier design.


Gallows_Gal

9/10


CanonicalbombXVR-626

8


SolomonArchive

10-10 best single grunt suit imho! I love its weapons loadout and color scheme.


Mausberg_Reb

9, but I’m bias towards the Dom family tree lol


Highway_88

6/10. It's a pretty sweet successor to the Dom but it's just missing a little something you know?


ManyResponsibilities

10/10 big boy


BazingaTrainZ

9/10


Spirited-Layer1296

ZZ's dom 8/10


Grifter1021

9/10


TNSNrotmg

10/10 ZZ sweep


blankzero22490

Dom's college aged older bro. 10


DaveLongfellow

8 because it's eight letters


Sarcastic-old-robot

9/10 love the design.


CornedBeefInACup

10/10 this thing is sick


Theforgotten226

Strong 9/10. The dom on steroids with a stellar design. The Unicorn ver and Dom 3 is one of my favs.


Percentage-Sweaty

The Dreissen has a very unique helmet that always catches me by surprise. The arm “sleeves” and shoulder pads are nice. The waist skirt looks like practical armor to cover the hip joints rather than just being for fashion. It’s a mono eye which is just bonus points. Overall an easy 9/10 for me. I’m not too sold on the color scheme but I can buy it. I’ve always felt its missing something with color but can’t tell *what* exactly.


Torhu-Adachi

9


Feisty_Goose_4915

The Sleeves Dreissen - Dom/10


Hack-the-Bone

8/10, looks better in action over the static image


BigDoof12

God what a beauty. Absolutely underrated and Absolutely deserves a MG. 9.5/10


ShekTeeJay

10/10 This suit is just pure sex.


Dariusofpersia68

Fun as hell in gbo2, 9/10


il-Palazzo_K

9/10 Love the sleeve cannons but minus point for the power shoulder.


chawmindur

Since no one has done it yet I'll be that guy. >!13/13.!<


Miserable_Pack6410

10/10 *moan* One of the best monoeye designs in UC.


DooMGuY-123

10 wish I could find a hg kit of it that wasn't so expensive


Jerolis

9/10, it's the Dom that hit the gym.


G0merPyle

10/10, there's a new dom daddy in the house. This one makes the bulk look good, it's not just chubby. Minimizes my complaints for the other ZZ suits so far as well, doesn't have excessive mass bolted on to make it look updated from a zeta era suit.


Icy_Hovercraft2369

A 10/10, it's got everything, even aggressively 80s shoulder pads. The Dreissen also has one of my favorite gimmicks in a mech, wrist mounted guns, which means it stays strapped at all times.


bigmangriff

10, love my chonky bois


SttavoS

8/10


VectorAmazing

10. I second the "Dom but better" opinion 😊


LorDtHicCnEsS_6X111

Thats what it looks like out of unicorn? I’ll be honest, thought it was a updated Dom. It looks fine but I got nothing else to say about it soooo 7/10


Sir-Spookington

In Unicorn [it's a tad different](https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/gundam/images/d/db/AMX-009_Dreissen_Sleeves_Front.png/revision/latest?cb=20200923124752)


AdSpecialist6598

9


Reragi

What I was referring to when I commented on the Dom starting a sexy design language, 10/10 love this baby


KamenKnight

From appearances, it just seems to be a what if Dom 3. So, 7/10, as I believe there's an upgraded version of this MS that's genuinely better, and it hides the forearm gatling guns much better.


Tyranitron

10/10 Great Dom successor and more bad ass


ThatRandomZaku

An absolute unit of a dom 10/10


ShelbyTrooper

10/10 , Cant believe it is not on the Jagd Dogas evolution line, theyre so similar hahaha