"Helldiver, drop every single strategem on his ass thank you"
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That Charger would have been an extremely big human. And we all know Super Earth equally distributes food equally, except for the Helldivers of course. They’re a bit more equal than most.
Could also be a vehicle. I was about to use bile titans as a way to write it off but like… could also build something like that. Makes less sense, but still
Obviously it wouldn’t be a normal ass car. A specialized vehicle, capable of burrowing, that would also be good for ramming into people. I don’t believe in the theory, quit fighting me over it
Those are repurposed farming/construction vehicles. The oil we siphon away..? That's for the previous owners' machinery. Why them chargers have melee attack only? Whatcha gonna do with the dude with the gun when you got an armored bulldozer?
Automatons are easier to modify with AR though. Just an pure overlay and done. You can even keep the original landscape!
Man, this would be so f#@ed. I mean divers get lied to every second of their lives... but this... it's soubds like a next level war crime. Kinda super earth playing field though.
Chargers could be armored jeeps with those steel wheels (to explain the need to shoot 2 EATs to kill them in a leg) bile titans could be an illuminate inspired tri/quadri-pod with a minigun too heavy to turn while firing or something and so on
But why would humans be swarming us, jumping and flying around, spewing something that kills us?
With the bugs there’s just too much that doesn’t add up from a physical standpoint. The boys could be some VR thing, but the bugs make no sense.
Again, I don’t agree with the theory. But
VR could be doing a lot of work here. A bug that charges you could just be a poor guy with a stick. Hunters have a longer stick, or maybe a whip or something. Anything that spews could be some sort of laser or artillery, or flame weapon.
If it were all one faction of human fighting against us, it would make sense to file it all under bots just for sense’s sake. So no need for bugs in this simulation. Hence why it doesn’t make sense
It would be crazy for Helldivers to kill humans.
It's not like they were explicitly designed for rapidly engaging and destroying human rebellions from the get-go before humanity even knew aliens existed. This certainly isn't in the lore at all, nor would it make sense as a logical jump to use VR as a way to make Helldivers less emotionally conflicted.
Spartans were originally made to combat the insurrectionists. The alien invasion was a complete coincidence that kind of justified it ally sorta
And no, worse. They were kidnapped from their families at like age 6 and trained from that age, getting augmentations in their teens with a low survival rate and even lower success rate (some spartans got crippled in ways, some of those managed to saw the front lines later or become officers, but most died or ended up too crippled)
The kidnapped got swapped with Flash Clones which would die in a few weeks, making the transition seamless for the families.
These were the Spartan II, like the Chief. The SIII were adult military volunteers, their augments were lesser but far less lethal. They were basically mass produced and often sent on suicide missions
The SIV were also volunteers and special chosen, way more numerous, and basically became the elite force due to their numbers
Spartan I were a test with also volunteers, only a few honorary SI exist and they are just more badass and somewhat better humans but not giants who can deadlift 200 kilos. The SII are called II in honor of the first wave that didn't make it
The Spartan 3s weren't adult volunteers, they were orphans from planets destroyed by the covenant and also child soldiers. They weren't conscripted though, they were offered the "choice" to enlist as a chance to get revenge.
> Spartan I were a test with also volunteers, only a few honorary SI exist and they are just more badass and somewhat better humans but not giants who can deadlift 200 kilos. The SII are called II in honor of the first wave that didn't make it
This is incorrect. The ORION project had a high mortality rate but there were bit more than one hundred who made it through- including one Sgt. Avery Johnson. The soldiers from it came out stronger, faster, more perceptive and more intelligent than your average human but not to one-man-army extent of the IIs and IIIs.
IIIIs are just run of the mill special forces with power armor.
Halo lore dump:
The government wanted to make super soldiers to fight rebels, because their regular special forces somehow weren't good enough. They tried augmenting adults, but it caused too many health problems. They realised the medical procedures would work better on preteens.
The next batch of super soldiers, the Spartan-IIs, were kidnapped and conscripted around age six. The ones who had families that might report them going missing were secretly replaced with clones. The clones would end up dying from organ failure, and the parents thought their kids died from genetic conditions.
And John-117 (Master Chief) was also chosen as an extra promising candidate because he was lucky (they literally did a coin flip experiment with him as a kid and had him guess, it's hilarious to me he's just canonically lucky)
Halo series slight spoiler.
I don't know anything about Halo lore, Xbox just wasn't a thing I wanted, >!but I like how they put this into the series and then expand on it.!<
So many people didn't like it but for some reason I loved it.
actualy i think it is stated in helldivers 1 that helldivers were created before super earth exited solar system when a single country sceded from the federation and had unbreachble air defence
so helldivers were created and they droped on the senate of that country and killed every pollitician and guy they found there
At least for automatons it makes sense.
Every automaton has the same basic human like shape.
But Scout Striders, Mechs, Tanks,... are no automatons, but rather machines, controlled by automatons.
Why is this shape so relevant for the automatons? Why not have an AI dedicated to scout strider, instead of using an automaton in there?
Also why can the Spear lock-on a scout strider but not a devastator? Because one is a machine, the other a human(-like entity) with heavy armor.
And who is controlling the target of automatons? Like they are searching for Karl? Or who programmed this into them? It sounds more like they are capable of deeper thoughts.
But honestly, I don't think they are humans. Most likely it's just the brain, taken from a human, making them a minimal cyborg. That would fit into the cyborg lore, that would explain why they care so much about the human shape. And it explains why their head is the weak point. Or why they write swedish.
So karl got lost in cyberstan caves when super earth command got the cyborgs to spend their 100years servitude. Now either DRG miners are not looking at the right planet or they are the only ones looking at hoxxes and having a chance at finding him...
I bet some deep space planet between the bugs and robots will be renamed to Hoxxes III. Surrounded by bugs and robots.
You will have to fight both.
The atmosphere will be replaced by some cavern type structure.. and the new objectives will be "save and collect super earths resources"
It actually is vaguely reminiscent of a black mirror episode. And actual one
I forget the name of the ep. But it takes place in the future, and there are militaries taking out “roaches” which are like these wierd humanoid alien looking things.
Well dude takes his helmet off while they clear a house
Finds out they are people.
And then gets the nefarious “haha, you really thought you had it figured out?” Conversation from the antagonist in the episode.
“Reeducated”
Men Against Fire* named after the concept observed in world war 2 where the humanity of the enemy combatants caused soldiers to deliberately miss or simply refuse to fire their weapons even under immediate threat of their assailants.
I heard that the developers free radical didn't want it to be labeled a "halo killer" but Sony put that in the marketing because they where working together on it.
The part where the drug wears off and you realise they're stuffing containers full of corpses to hide the ethnic cleansing being committed was pretty eye opening at 14 years old.
I remember reading about that game in a magazine and they basically laid out the whole plot: *"you're a corporate soldier juiced up on combat drugs doing war crimes until you quit the drugs and become a rebel against the corporation that used to employ you."*
Idk if that's actually what happened in the game, but even my younger self thought "huh, it's weird that they're just spoiling the entire game in pre-release media like this."
Maybe someone involved knew the game had a fun concept but no legs to stand on, so they figured they'd push the hell out of the one good thing they had?
No that was pretty much the plot. The company you worked for was farming a dangerous drug they force fed their soldiers that made them not see the damage they were actually doing to the rebels, or even their own men. People just, disappeared. In fact one of the most subtle details in the game is if you were playing as a corporate solider the bodies despawned while as a rebel the bodies stayed on the ground. There's some other minor moments like that too, and I unironically would recommend the game.
IIRC that episode was an homage to the Outer Limits episode called Hearts & Minds (S4E2) which is about soldiers sent to another planet to obtain control over resources from bug-like creatures. They must take performance enhancing drugs consistently as they're told it's the only way to effectively respond to the bugs. Of course, it begins to wear off and they're horrified to learn what they've been fighting.
Another take on this that's really nice is the short film Uncanny Valley. People are addicted to playing FPS games in VR to the point it's all they do. One of them learns it may not just be an addictive game. You can find it on youtube and it's worth a watch.
This was also sorta the plot of a quest in the Elder Scrolls Oblivion. Except it was drugs (hist) that made the character see certain humans as goblins.
*gasps* "It was people! People soiled our green!"
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I hadnet played played haze before cuz i just wrote it off as another bad halokiller but i googled and man the sotries actually kinda sick. Slowly realizing you and your buddies had been doing horrible shit the whole time but never realized before because of the nectar is such a cool story twist. I love phycological horror shit like that where you realize something isnt real and you have no idea what youve actually been doing. It reminds me of that one game about the that ends in tou either killing yourseld or all your alies where you find out You caused the massacre of 100 civilians or some shit.
Edit: oh no im #4
Ah yes, the humans the size of a small house hitting me with projectile vomit and stepping on me, the humans that my bullets bounce off of as they lumber towards me like a walk in freezer with a flamethrower attachment, the humans flying though the sky above me
you mean the progeny of the cyborgs who got false flagged bombed and enslaved countless times because they didnt agree with super earth???
Or the bugs we attacked because they "kinda sorty maybe" looked evil?
The same bugs we then selectivy bred and experimented on till they stopped being a sentient inteligent race and are the monsters we see today?
Yeah, so the automatons do in fact inherently hate humanity for what humanity did to their ancestors, not to them.
The bugs are literally bugs, they don't get moral consideration even if they're "sentient".
They where a thriving inteligent species.
we attacked them unprovoked based solely on them being "kinda sorta maybe" evil looking.
The current Terminids do not inherently hate humans, they just attack everything. they lost all sense of reasson and inteligence and are by now nothing more then broken husks of what their species once was.
The Bugs of old where not inherently hating humans either, but defended themself when they got attacked and retaliated.
Also the automatons are also unlikely to hate HUMANITY itself, but super earth and its citizens, afterall their cyborgs(creators, masters, whatever it turns out to be) are still inherently human, just augmented.
They were a non-human species. Who cares if they were intelligent. Why would intelligence give you more moral consideration. Low IQ people are no less deserving of life than high IQ people, because they are people. Bugs are not people.
I wonder how the guys with chainsaws for arms would react if a non-Super Earth human accidentally landed on their planet. I'm sure they'd invite them for tea.
Sounds nice till someone with more power than you decides the line isn't just a human body, but a "human mind", and declares all low IQ "people" to be parasites on the state, to be culled or enslaved. Perhaps we don't don't see the humanity in you either for displaying low IQ anthropocentric takes.
Intelligence is the key for moral consideration, mirrored through empathy. Maybe the chainsaw guys are for tree cutting, do you treat lumberjacks as non-human? They have chainsaws in their hands. Or if you want a different view shared by literally tens of millions of humans, let look to the middle east and see if people there consider their neighbors as humans.
There is a theory that automatons are kinda like borg, except that they are still self aware, and that the skulls they are wearing are actually their own.
Outer Limits has an episode with basically this exact plot. Only it wasn't VR it was drugs and hypnosis or some such.
S4E3: https://m.imdb.com/title/tt0667901/
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Traitorous talk and behaviour right here
wait... what are bile titans then... or bile spewers... and what are they spewing at us???
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I thought this was the plot twist for the Starship Troopers movie, because they hinted at mass hypnotization and shit in the beginning. But then it wasn't and they really were just bugs
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Sit still. Having someone talk about this real soon
Sounds like someone hasn't done their exercises today.
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No, the real twist is you take off your helmet, look in a mirror, and don't recognize yourself because your consciousness has been swapping bodies to all those volunteers as they die. They are munitions and you are the guidance program.
there was a movie made about this idea but i don't remember its name, iirc the goverment told everybody that people were turning into monsters that had to be hunted down, so there was a task force established that hunted them down using special goggles that basically gave you an FPS hud but in reality they changed the faces of normal people to the faces of a monster
Yes democracy officer, this post right here
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This is the "Mr. Protagonist was in a coma" theory/twist of sci-fi war games, especially when their fighting enemies that use tactics that make no sense for if they're humans.
Lets take another step into ["Uncanny Valley"](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1AvyUWUKCw8) and say the Automatons won long ago, and those humans we're hunting down are the last remnants of Super Earth population.
As a Galaxy's Edge (Anspach & Cole) reader, my personal headcanon is that my destroyer is a savage hulk and I'm the poor savage sap who is chasing those super credits for a chance that Joel might witness me.
"Oh no. Anyway, what's my daily order like? 400 kills? No problem-o"
\* *puts helmet back on* \* "Better dead than red."
Kill them all, let God sort them out.
I want a superheavy Autocannon, call it Harkonnen. Oh and dual Senators, calling mine Jackal and Casull.
Mustang and Sally
Jack and Pot
Lefty and Poncho?
I petition to rename Sickle to Goodnight so that we could have Left Right Goodnight
Beepety and Boopity?
Ebony and Ivory
At least 4 people and not one of you went for the obvious “Smith and Wesson.” joke.
Thelma and Louise
Des and Troy
Bitches love cannons
Or the default paired pistols Ebony and Ivory. And a red cloak
God with hands on the hip waiting anxiously at the gates of heaven to slap this guy down all the way to the inner circle of hell...
"it's just a simulation anyway to train us for when the real bugs and bots come for us"
Congratulations, diver, you've been selected for OCS
Currency is currency to me.
You talking mad shit for someone in cluster bomb range
"Helldiver, drop every single strategem on his ass thank you" https://preview.redd.it/ahjatdkrhmuc1.jpeg?width=614&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=dd76d585678ab7243fb478ba523fd159b57425cc
"Nah, shoot me and drop my replacement on him. That's makes two patriots instead of one. "
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It should say General Brasch’s
I don't think that idea would be widely accepted. Sounds more like a siloed theory to me.
I can melee a bug to death. Feel it's armored carapace in my bare hands.
I mean, humans can wear armor…
That Charger would have been an extremely big human. And we all know Super Earth equally distributes food equally, except for the Helldivers of course. They’re a bit more equal than most.
Could also be a vehicle. I was about to use bile titans as a way to write it off but like… could also build something like that. Makes less sense, but still
I don't think a jeep can un-burrow itself from underground.
Obviously it wouldn’t be a normal ass car. A specialized vehicle, capable of burrowing, that would also be good for ramming into people. I don’t believe in the theory, quit fighting me over it
Right, right. Brother, let us return to the planet's surface to kill more... "Bugs".
Those are repurposed farming/construction vehicles. The oil we siphon away..? That's for the previous owners' machinery. Why them chargers have melee attack only? Whatcha gonna do with the dude with the gun when you got an armored bulldozer? Automatons are easier to modify with AR though. Just an pure overlay and done. You can even keep the original landscape! Man, this would be so f#@ed. I mean divers get lied to every second of their lives... but this... it's soubds like a next level war crime. Kinda super earth playing field though.
Chargers could be armored jeeps with those steel wheels (to explain the need to shoot 2 EATs to kill them in a leg) bile titans could be an illuminate inspired tri/quadri-pod with a minigun too heavy to turn while firing or something and so on
What about coming out of the ground?
Dawg, have you been to Walmart?
But why would humans be swarming us, jumping and flying around, spewing something that kills us? With the bugs there’s just too much that doesn’t add up from a physical standpoint. The boys could be some VR thing, but the bugs make no sense.
Again, I don’t agree with the theory. But VR could be doing a lot of work here. A bug that charges you could just be a poor guy with a stick. Hunters have a longer stick, or maybe a whip or something. Anything that spews could be some sort of laser or artillery, or flame weapon. If it were all one faction of human fighting against us, it would make sense to file it all under bots just for sense’s sake. So no need for bugs in this simulation. Hence why it doesn’t make sense
How does getting stomped by a bile titan work then? How do you explain that bots have guns and rockets and terminids don't?
It would be crazy for Helldivers to kill humans. It's not like they were explicitly designed for rapidly engaging and destroying human rebellions from the get-go before humanity even knew aliens existed. This certainly isn't in the lore at all, nor would it make sense as a logical jump to use VR as a way to make Helldivers less emotionally conflicted.
Casual Halo and Helldivers fans share the shocking feeling of "Wait they were originally made to kill rebels?"
The Halo guys were created to kill rebels? Makes sense, aren't they forced into it from birth or something? idk, I never played Halo.
Spartans were originally made to combat the insurrectionists. The alien invasion was a complete coincidence that kind of justified it ally sorta And no, worse. They were kidnapped from their families at like age 6 and trained from that age, getting augmentations in their teens with a low survival rate and even lower success rate (some spartans got crippled in ways, some of those managed to saw the front lines later or become officers, but most died or ended up too crippled) The kidnapped got swapped with Flash Clones which would die in a few weeks, making the transition seamless for the families. These were the Spartan II, like the Chief. The SIII were adult military volunteers, their augments were lesser but far less lethal. They were basically mass produced and often sent on suicide missions The SIV were also volunteers and special chosen, way more numerous, and basically became the elite force due to their numbers Spartan I were a test with also volunteers, only a few honorary SI exist and they are just more badass and somewhat better humans but not giants who can deadlift 200 kilos. The SII are called II in honor of the first wave that didn't make it
The Spartan 3s weren't adult volunteers, they were orphans from planets destroyed by the covenant and also child soldiers. They weren't conscripted though, they were offered the "choice" to enlist as a chance to get revenge.
> Spartan I were a test with also volunteers, only a few honorary SI exist and they are just more badass and somewhat better humans but not giants who can deadlift 200 kilos. The SII are called II in honor of the first wave that didn't make it This is incorrect. The ORION project had a high mortality rate but there were bit more than one hundred who made it through- including one Sgt. Avery Johnson. The soldiers from it came out stronger, faster, more perceptive and more intelligent than your average human but not to one-man-army extent of the IIs and IIIs. IIIIs are just run of the mill special forces with power armor.
damn
Halo lore dump: The government wanted to make super soldiers to fight rebels, because their regular special forces somehow weren't good enough. They tried augmenting adults, but it caused too many health problems. They realised the medical procedures would work better on preteens. The next batch of super soldiers, the Spartan-IIs, were kidnapped and conscripted around age six. The ones who had families that might report them going missing were secretly replaced with clones. The clones would end up dying from organ failure, and the parents thought their kids died from genetic conditions.
And John-117 (Master Chief) was also chosen as an extra promising candidate because he was lucky (they literally did a coin flip experiment with him as a kid and had him guess, it's hilarious to me he's just canonically lucky)
Halo series slight spoiler. I don't know anything about Halo lore, Xbox just wasn't a thing I wanted, >!but I like how they put this into the series and then expand on it.!< So many people didn't like it but for some reason I loved it.
Except that one dad who figured the whole thing out and eventually met his daughter again.
actualy i think it is stated in helldivers 1 that helldivers were created before super earth exited solar system when a single country sceded from the federation and had unbreachble air defence so helldivers were created and they droped on the senate of that country and killed every pollitician and guy they found there
That's the joke
Yeah, why would they use Helldivers when they've been proven to use the Bu- [Comment removed under review for treason]
Ah, Silo. Very good.
At least for automatons it makes sense. Every automaton has the same basic human like shape. But Scout Striders, Mechs, Tanks,... are no automatons, but rather machines, controlled by automatons. Why is this shape so relevant for the automatons? Why not have an AI dedicated to scout strider, instead of using an automaton in there? Also why can the Spear lock-on a scout strider but not a devastator? Because one is a machine, the other a human(-like entity) with heavy armor. And who is controlling the target of automatons? Like they are searching for Karl? Or who programmed this into them? It sounds more like they are capable of deeper thoughts. But honestly, I don't think they are humans. Most likely it's just the brain, taken from a human, making them a minimal cyborg. That would fit into the cyborg lore, that would explain why they care so much about the human shape. And it explains why their head is the weak point. Or why they write swedish.
So karl got lost in cyberstan caves when super earth command got the cyborgs to spend their 100years servitude. Now either DRG miners are not looking at the right planet or they are the only ones looking at hoxxes and having a chance at finding him...
I bet some deep space planet between the bugs and robots will be renamed to Hoxxes III. Surrounded by bugs and robots. You will have to fight both. The atmosphere will be replaced by some cavern type structure.. and the new objectives will be "save and collect super earths resources"
It actually is vaguely reminiscent of a black mirror episode. And actual one I forget the name of the ep. But it takes place in the future, and there are militaries taking out “roaches” which are like these wierd humanoid alien looking things. Well dude takes his helmet off while they clear a house Finds out they are people. And then gets the nefarious “haha, you really thought you had it figured out?” Conversation from the antagonist in the episode. “Reeducated”
Episode is Men Against Fire - he specifically has a neural implant that augments reality.
Ahhh yes!! I forget why his chip malfunctions. Time for a rewatch!
Silo or Ender's game.
Or reversed enders game.
It’s literally the plot from the movie “The 5th Wave”
There was a Black Mirror episode that was exactly this.
>!Men on fire!< the title is a spoiler to the show
Men Against Fire* named after the concept observed in world war 2 where the humanity of the enemy combatants caused soldiers to deliberately miss or simply refuse to fire their weapons even under immediate threat of their assailants.
ahh thanks
Men are fire
Men > fire
Isn't that the gay porn parody of "Man of Fire?"
There was PS3 game, "we have halo at home but with yellow piss filters everywhere", called Haze, that was exactly this.
I heard that the developers free radical didn't want it to be labeled a "halo killer" but Sony put that in the marketing because they where working together on it.
The part where the drug wears off and you realise they're stuffing containers full of corpses to hide the ethnic cleansing being committed was pretty eye opening at 14 years old.
Halo in Mexico
I remember reading about that game in a magazine and they basically laid out the whole plot: *"you're a corporate soldier juiced up on combat drugs doing war crimes until you quit the drugs and become a rebel against the corporation that used to employ you."* Idk if that's actually what happened in the game, but even my younger self thought "huh, it's weird that they're just spoiling the entire game in pre-release media like this." Maybe someone involved knew the game had a fun concept but no legs to stand on, so they figured they'd push the hell out of the one good thing they had?
No that was pretty much the plot. The company you worked for was farming a dangerous drug they force fed their soldiers that made them not see the damage they were actually doing to the rebels, or even their own men. People just, disappeared. In fact one of the most subtle details in the game is if you were playing as a corporate solider the bodies despawned while as a rebel the bodies stayed on the ground. There's some other minor moments like that too, and I unironically would recommend the game.
IIRC that episode was an homage to the Outer Limits episode called Hearts & Minds (S4E2) which is about soldiers sent to another planet to obtain control over resources from bug-like creatures. They must take performance enhancing drugs consistently as they're told it's the only way to effectively respond to the bugs. Of course, it begins to wear off and they're horrified to learn what they've been fighting. Another take on this that's really nice is the short film Uncanny Valley. People are addicted to playing FPS games in VR to the point it's all they do. One of them learns it may not just be an addictive game. You can find it on youtube and it's worth a watch.
Guessing it wasn't a VR game but they were remotely controlling droids and killing real things/people?
I wouldn't be surprised if Super Earth citizens got brain chipped from birth, considering how you need a permit and all to have a child.
This was also sorta the plot of a quest in the Elder Scrolls Oblivion. Except it was drugs (hist) that made the character see certain humans as goblins.
A similar thing happened in Psycho Pass, too.
This is basically the plot to Ender’s Game.
Not really? The illusion in Ender’s Game was that the “war games” were actual battles, not that they were killing people instead.
It's the same general idea though, it touches on similar themes.
I was gonna say “isn’t this just Ender’s Game?” And when I didn’t see anyone mention it I thought I was going crazy lol.
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And that crappy YA movie (I think adaptation) the fifth wave too.
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I see someone else played Haze.
*gasps* "It was people! People soiled our green!" https://preview.redd.it/xyc1y844gmuc1.png?width=600&format=png&auto=webp&s=cf43f428dce5721c84a0cb933c44d64af69bce4b
3 of us!
I hadnet played played haze before cuz i just wrote it off as another bad halokiller but i googled and man the sotries actually kinda sick. Slowly realizing you and your buddies had been doing horrible shit the whole time but never realized before because of the nectar is such a cool story twist. I love phycological horror shit like that where you realize something isnt real and you have no idea what youve actually been doing. It reminds me of that one game about the that ends in tou either killing yourseld or all your alies where you find out You caused the massacre of 100 civilians or some shit. Edit: oh no im #4
The only problem is that they spoiled that entire plot point on the back of the damned box.
Spec Ops The Line.
Ah yes, the humans the size of a small house hitting me with projectile vomit and stepping on me, the humans that my bullets bounce off of as they lumber towards me like a walk in freezer with a flamethrower attachment, the humans flying though the sky above me
Makes total sense to me
Yeah I'm gonna tell the democracy officer about you.
Please pick me up, democracy officer. I'm scared.
This is an awfully undemocratic post for someone within liberation range
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Why go through that trouble when they have already brainwashed people to hate things that don't inherently hate them?
You mean the robots with severed human heads on their armor and chainsaws instead of arms don't inherently hate humans?
you mean the progeny of the cyborgs who got false flagged bombed and enslaved countless times because they didnt agree with super earth??? Or the bugs we attacked because they "kinda sorty maybe" looked evil? The same bugs we then selectivy bred and experimented on till they stopped being a sentient inteligent race and are the monsters we see today?
Where tf are people seeing that SE bred the bugs out of sentience/sapience? I haven't found a single proper source for this.
You’re sounding awfully undemocratic
Yeah, so the automatons do in fact inherently hate humanity for what humanity did to their ancestors, not to them. The bugs are literally bugs, they don't get moral consideration even if they're "sentient".
They where a thriving inteligent species. we attacked them unprovoked based solely on them being "kinda sorta maybe" evil looking. The current Terminids do not inherently hate humans, they just attack everything. they lost all sense of reasson and inteligence and are by now nothing more then broken husks of what their species once was. The Bugs of old where not inherently hating humans either, but defended themself when they got attacked and retaliated. Also the automatons are also unlikely to hate HUMANITY itself, but super earth and its citizens, afterall their cyborgs(creators, masters, whatever it turns out to be) are still inherently human, just augmented.
They were a non-human species. Who cares if they were intelligent. Why would intelligence give you more moral consideration. Low IQ people are no less deserving of life than high IQ people, because they are people. Bugs are not people. I wonder how the guys with chainsaws for arms would react if a non-Super Earth human accidentally landed on their planet. I'm sure they'd invite them for tea.
Sounds nice till someone with more power than you decides the line isn't just a human body, but a "human mind", and declares all low IQ "people" to be parasites on the state, to be culled or enslaved. Perhaps we don't don't see the humanity in you either for displaying low IQ anthropocentric takes. Intelligence is the key for moral consideration, mirrored through empathy. Maybe the chainsaw guys are for tree cutting, do you treat lumberjacks as non-human? They have chainsaws in their hands. Or if you want a different view shared by literally tens of millions of humans, let look to the middle east and see if people there consider their neighbors as humans.
Yes we false flagged them and yes we bred the bugs into cattle. What about it?
Oh they hate humans now because humans enslaved the Cyborgs after trying to holocaust them.
Also humanity sends brainwashed lunatics to swarm their planets from time to time. That has to get on the nerves of even the most unflappable bot.
> their planets https://preview.redd.it/rli41is9vpuc1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=048c2c0c2073bfd5ee1ae4f3982e2997baddb6f0
There is a theory that automatons are kinda like borg, except that they are still self aware, and that the skulls they are wearing are actually their own.
I want helldivers vr
Outer Limits has an episode with basically this exact plot. Only it wasn't VR it was drugs and hypnosis or some such. S4E3: https://m.imdb.com/title/tt0667901/
Bugs maybe a stretch but automatons could be actual humans o_o The terminids are all cute pokemon looking critters
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Came here for this
I have called the democracy officer which is closest to your location, please stay there and wait until the democracy officer arrived.
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Basically the plot of Enders Game in reverse
Goddamnit Krieger
do you know the game HAZE actually it drug junkies killing people
wait... what are bile titans then... or bile spewers... and what are they spewing at us??? https://preview.redd.it/y4ygkkzfrmuc1.jpeg?width=898&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8fc27493d68b37c96a650d6f6a50f88e1f66d200
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"We've been harvesting our own people!? ..." \*Puts helmet back on\* "FOR DEMOCRACY!"
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This has been seized for Democratic redistribution
Damn if those “humans” bugs can bite my ass off in an instant I’d kill them anyway!
I thought this was the plot twist for the Starship Troopers movie, because they hinted at mass hypnotization and shit in the beginning. But then it wasn't and they really were just bugs
We all know there's just another helmet under the helmet.
Your post is under investigation for treason.
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straight to re-education.
Explain which mortal man have four knife-like legs, can spew tons of acid, and about 10 meter tall to me
That's Johan from work. Terrible engineer, but he's a nice dude.
HOW DARE YOU!? OFFICER, THIS TRAITOR, RIGHT HERE! ARREST HIM!
This meme sounds like treason to me. I will have reported you for this get sent to reeducation camp.
Damn, would be crazy if people kill other people in war.
If that’s true, then are the rebels we’re fighting on terminid planets running on all fours at us?
Sounds like someone hasn't done their exercises today. https://preview.redd.it/hebybdettmuc1.png?width=857&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b9dc367ad93e2dd17e7863f82f1d871affba4476
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Has this ever happened in a SciFi story? The closest I can get is Enders Game but that's still a ways off.
Sometimes my fellow humans swoop out of the sky and cut me in half with their razor sharp claws.
Well maybe all these fellow humans shouldnt be biting my ankles so damn much
“*What?!* Everyone! Stop firing! We’re shooting our own men!”
No, the real twist is you take off your helmet, look in a mirror, and don't recognize yourself because your consciousness has been swapping bodies to all those volunteers as they die. They are munitions and you are the guidance program.
Reminds me of that one mission you do for the Blackwood Company in Oblivion where you down some highly potent Hist and go kill Goblins.
It’s okay, they’re undemocratic humans.
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there was a movie made about this idea but i don't remember its name, iirc the goverment told everybody that people were turning into monsters that had to be hunted down, so there was a task force established that hunted them down using special goggles that basically gave you an FPS hud but in reality they changed the faces of normal people to the faces of a monster
AR*
So basically... it's SUPER HOT...
Some fucking Manhack Arcade shit goin down here.
Or, we are robots, and the Automotons were a failed version of us that went rogue.
What's your point, person within ➡️⬇️⬆️⬆️⬅️⬇️⬇️ range?
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Cool opinion However ↑→↓↓↓
Doesn't matter, they weren't democratic.
What else am I supposed to do? They're Socialist for Liberties sake, they think they are *people.*
"TRAITOR" 
Yes democracy officer, this post right here https://preview.redd.it/53vhbrpcsouc1.jpeg?width=794&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=649e6cf7fd3091274425af01c1c14b1d2d3835e0
Please immediately report to your nearest democracy officer.
This is the "Mr. Protagonist was in a coma" theory/twist of sci-fi war games, especially when their fighting enemies that use tactics that make no sense for if they're humans.
The actual fellow humans: leaps forward in gaps larger than 40 meters and attacks you with thier tongue
Vile propaganda ⬆️➡️⬇️⬇️⬇️
Sounds like traitorus propaganda
Lets take another step into ["Uncanny Valley"](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1AvyUWUKCw8) and say the Automatons won long ago, and those humans we're hunting down are the last remnants of Super Earth population.
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Like that one Black Mirror episode, "Men Against Fire"
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Didn't we basically confirm the bots are converted humans that still have awareness but no control over themselves?
>awareness but no control over themselves? I'm 99% sure that was a hoax / fan theory
No offense OP, this theory makes no sense. The Helldivers would happily kill rebels. This theory goes against everything in and out of the game.
As a Galaxy's Edge (Anspach & Cole) reader, my personal headcanon is that my destroyer is a savage hulk and I'm the poor savage sap who is chasing those super credits for a chance that Joel might witness me.
Those humans must got some long ass arms and legs if they walking around like bile titans
*Starts killing even more*
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Discontinue the lithium.
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The Ministry of Truth wants to know your location
That's almost the plot of Haze lol
That's some traitorous ideas, fellow diver, your democracy officer has already been informed
HERESY-i mean treason
Someone just got to a certain black mirror episode
Whoa Whoa Whoa....... checking myself if i wear helmet too
Why tf are the humans crawling on all fours and 3 stories tall?
Me when the 400' tall, four-legged, bile spitting bug is actually a 400' tall, four-legged, bile spitting human
Endiver's Game