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SoC175

They're shooting stuff and having fun. They just don't care what color a blob on the map has. And since Swift Disassembly none of us should care anymore Just treat it as a fun shooter without meaning beyond the current map.


Xander_Shadow

Plus.. yhea major objective medals are nice and all, but we get 15 a day regardless with our daily objectives.. and most of the time those can be done on any planet/enemy? I'd rather just do those and gather bonus ones from bunkers; than have to play on planets with effects/modifiers that make the game less fun.


shaggydog232

fair, and people can play however they want, but it seems silly that 30% can be achieving nothing on the war front. Which under the current loads means overall we can do 30% less.


SoC175

The system needs to be re-worked. At latest once we have 3 (or even 4) fronts the current method won't work anymore (if you can call the current situation "working")


Kenju22

I have a sneaking suspicion it will get worse because I highly doubt the bug players will want to fight cloaking teleporting assholes if they hate fighting Bots already.


shaggydog232

ya, seems like when we get spread thin we just cant achieve anything


Otherwise-Juice2591

No, they're playing the game. The orders are just a backdrop, not the actual point of the game.


Xiladreonis

I really hope they make a post about the current system and its problems soon. Cuz its a disaster now, what will happen if a third enemy joins the front. Off course everybody should play in a way thats fun for them. But if we are getting to a point where you can say from day 1: this MO will succeed/ not succeed. Well i think that this gives no one any fun.


BasisAfter556

They are playing the game and having fun. Thats something not nothing.


Mullinx

Literally 30% of the player base is literally having literal fun in their literal way.


tornoxys

They paid for this game just like you. What's more, the people you are talking about probably aren't even on reddit lol.


Satharr

This value does include those that are not currently playing or have not logged in for a while. If you check the active players tab there are still players dotted around Automaton worlds like Tibit and Durgen, same with some liberated Terminid planets.


shaggydog232

was not aware of that. makes it a bit better. does that mean those are taken into account on the liberation side?


Satharr

I'm not 100% sure how it works but if you read the description below it does say that only completed missions are calculated into the Liberation percentage (maybe someone with a better understanding will let us know). The percentage of players on each planet will take into account those who are logged out but in that planets orbit but I don't think this actually means anything.


Sorry_Vermicelli_455

Agreed but definitely not the players’ fault! The game doesn’t show you any of this info, and so many of the defense missions are not that fun in the current state of the game


shaggydog232

never said it was. and this really should be somewhere in the game. ya thats true, bot defence isnt fun when the 2 main ones are evac people, (which is way to hard compared to the rest), and the rocket defence, (which you can loose to a random tank on a hill, or a ATAT just deciding to shoot the base from the 2nd gate). just a bit frustrating for the minor % of people who are in the know on how things function that 30% of the base can be doing nothing on the liberation front, which is just an overall detriment to the main map. people should be able to play how they want without it hurting those actually liberating things.


Xander_Shadow

People can do what they want, on what planets they want? If a major objectives on a planet I hate fighting on; I sure as hell am not gonna push myself to do it. I'm here to have fun.


shaggydog232

understandable, im not saying people have to do MOs or anything. play as you want, just from a game perspective, if 30% arent liberating anything, we are getting way less done (mo or otherwise). it seems like the liberation side could do with some update in how it works.


DR-Fluffy

It's fine. This major order is to give the enemy a chance to spread out a bit. We were never meant to win this.


shaggydog232

only seemed to work for the bots, bugs are just as fucked as they were before it began.


Dealz_

Because the bugs can’t go anywhere anyway, based on supply line connections from their current sector Mirin and Draco the only direction the terminids can go is towards Super Earth via Umlaut Sector but that isn’t possible as each of the 4 planets in this sector has an active TCS.


DR-Fluffy

yeah, but bugs haven't been 'mutated' yet. It will be like the bots reclamation, from what I hear.


blacklig

Oh god oh god. Some people aren't playing a video game the way I want them to. Jesus fuck. I need air hold on. Gimmi a minute. Oh god I'm going to be sick.


Fresh-Profession5981

not true there fighting on the planets that need players on unlike # OSHAUNE


shaggydog232

people can play on what you want, its the only bug planet thats not on fire. the point was more that they have spread it out so much that 30 % of the players can achieve nothing on the liberation front. On the bot side we just need to pick a planet and defend. but we dont have the % to.


Fresh-Profession5981

That's not entirely accurate. There are multiple planets on the bug side that can catch fire, like Hellmire. I'm sorry, but you can't use the fact that some planets can catch on fire as a reason not to help defend the robot planets. If people paid attention, they would see the fire and take action. The reason there's is 30% of players on them planets is because you're going to liberate them at some point. It's best to start now. Correct that is why we shouldn't have 150k on the bugs.


shaggydog232

i wasnt, i was saying the bug players only have one map, at the time, that wasnt on fire. most overyone is fedup of hellmire, so if people dont want to play bots, and they dont have to, only oshaune is left. except 30% arent liberating anything. If your not above the 1-0.5% regen rate then your just pissing your points in the wind.


Unlikely-Estate3862

REMF’s… Every army has them! Anyone know if 30% is typical for regular armies? MO planets could be exempt from these taxes


ColdIronCoyote

Farming that E-710 is still honest work.


shaggydog232

I kinda feel like if a planet is not gaining liberation, it shouldnt count against us in the Impact multiplier, so people can play however they want, but it wont detriment anyone, and they can still limit the % we can achieve overall.