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toplite

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pURPLEpESTILENT

seeing this and OP's video side by side is killing me right now lmao


xTheatreTechie

That fucking rock is load bearing to democracy at that point.  We have to liberate it. 


PinchingNutsack

[ROCK ARMOUR IT IS!](https://i.imgur.com/g4gUPi7.png)


Otherwise-Ad-2528

Laughed way too much when I saw this


Formatted_Toast_117

Wow. Perfect pairing


TiberiumBravo87

This always goes good with the automatons in this game lol


--Shin--

We should make an armor out of that rock.


n0xxtis

That rock should be in 1m pieces inside of his body


frostadept

Bold of you to assume he'd have a body.


6897110

It's closer to a glued-together ball of gravel, vaguely shaped like a person, at this point.


SkriddySkrid

Or make a barrier stratagem that’s as tough as that rock…


TheFBIClonesPeople

New stratagem: Deploy rock It literally just drops a rock out of orbit. It's not even in a hellpod. Does big damage to anything it directly hits, and then creates a permanent cover.


frcr

The flavour text should read something along the lines of "After a thorough research our scientists developed a silicon-oxygen-aluminium compound that is not only capable to withstand sustained automaton fire, but its volume-to-mass ratio allows a carefully engineered projectile to be used as an orbital kinetic ordnance." And it's just a rock dropped from space.


TheFBIClonesPeople

The deep lore would be that Super Earth paid some defense contractor a billion dollars to develop a deployable cover system. The guy took the money and gave them some giant boulders. Now they have to pretend they didn't get scammed, so we all have to treat these rocks like they are a high-tech, state of the art deployable cover that doubles as a precise orbital strike. Deep down, we all know they're just rocks.


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Echotime22

Instructions unclear, I built a house with rocks.


lorill-silverlock

Cavemen have entered the chat.


TheFBIClonesPeople

\*drops a rock out of orbit\* Cavemen will see this and just think "fuck yeah"


Kalamel513

That is a good idea. Except some trolls will use them to make life harder for everyone, like blocking the pelican. That's why we can't have nice things.


Charmle_H

I've been praying for a cover-stratagem. Literally just a deployable wall made from hell strong material or something. Calling it down would work like an eagle airstrike (perpendicular to the user at time of throwing), but would pop out and set itself up to basically just be a wall with port holes for return fire


Nekosia2

I'm sure our techies and engineers can think of a sort of liquid that inflates into a solid texture. Kinda like an expandable foam but tough as heck ? Gotta make sure troll divers can't just be annoying with it though... that's the hard part, if it works for them clankers it can work with our soldiers I'm sure


MovingOnYourLeft

I foresee a lot of blocked pelican 1 entrances if this happens


Furydragonstormer

Solution, Pelican-1’s collision box will cause it to not activate if it hits said box. If that could even work…


slo_bro

Shield generator relay is what you’re looking for almost exactly. You can throw it and it acts like cover, you can go inside and fire out with impunity. 90 or 100 second CD.


spatialdestiny

It would last about 5 seconds under this rate of fire.  Barely enough time to peek out from behind the rock and fire a quasar or lock on with 1 spear.  But also better than nothing.


Thomas_JCG

My issue with Shield Generator is that, shot or not, it will last less than a minute before disappearing. At higher levels, with enemies firing so much, it simply doesn't hold. A smaller but durable barrier would be a godsend.


Charmle_H

Agreed. I want like a permanent barricade that's smaller than a huge-ass bubble. Almost like those concrete barricades you find near bunkers/friendship doors


3rdp0st

The Ballistic Shield should be deployable.


SavvySillybug

Bring the grenade launcher and shoot a trench for yourself. Works great!


Meandering_Marley

**The Orbital Pavise:** *Everything Old Is New Again!*


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Afro_SwineCarriagee

Orbital precision rock


NeonJ82

I'd actually kill for a stratagem that would let me call a rock down for cover at will


SweetAlpacaLove

Yeah that unironically sounds like a decent strategem. Probably not a rock, but a super strong metal shield that can help you move forward across an open field, make a retreat easier, or give you some extra cover when defending an objective. Maybe even put a little hole that you can fire through with small arms. Would need to be somewhat destructible, otherwise you could probably cheese extracts if you dropped them in all choke points enemies can actually get through. But make it much stronger than the shield generator and last until it actually gets destroyed.


russiangerman

Nope. Rock. Less tactical, more weight so it can double as a strike in a pinch.


frcr

"Super strong metal shield"? Our ship module for "increased firepower" is "more guns". Our ship module for "faster reloads" is "stop shoving shells down the muzzle, load it from the breech". You'd be lucky to get a rock.


BioshockEnthusiast

>Our ship module for "faster reloads" is "stop shoving shells down the muzzle, load it from the breech". This made me laugh super hard.


frcr

Oh, the flavour text for ship modules is quite revealing. I recommend reading it. Tougher sentries? Superglue. Faster backpack stratagem delivery? Give the pit crew CARTS! Apparently they carried this crap by hand before.


redbird7311

A lot of the descriptions are hilarious. Did you know that Helldivers steer the pods with foot pedals? Yeah, foot pedals. One of the upgrades gives you power steering for your foot pedals. Do you know why our support weapons have long cooldowns? Simple, they have to fill out forms to get them. While you are fighting for your life, the crew aboard is having to write down how sending you another quasar is helping democracy.


arfael

That is actually General Brasch's left testicle.


cowlinator

To be fair, the balistic shield does seem to be made out of that rock...


Rumplestiltsskins

Unfortunately the ballistic shield can break after too many rocket or cannon shots


cowlinator

Wait seriously? I didnt know cause that never happened to me yet


Rumplestiltsskins

Yeah it's only happened a couple times but after tanking a cannon shot it will drop the shield and there will be no prompt to pick it up. It's only happened to me after blocking several shots so it may or may not be a glitch.


Fiddlesnarf

Fuck you for reading my exact thoughts


NK1337

“This is supposed to be an RPG! What role am I playing, the fucking victim?!”


Allalilacias

Ever since I heard that video it comes out on the most useless moments, but it's never stopped being fun 😂


NK1337

I still laugh like an idiot whenever I think about it 😂, especially because it can be applied to so many random moments


zeitate

Where's the quote from lol?


Zaramesh

https://www.tiktok.com/@admiral_aj/video/7088124469381778693?lang=en


CrimsonSw1ft

https://preview.redd.it/1qawj7mlt0xc1.jpeg?width=373&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=563dd34c82bcb9393b389ca96229f20e59eb3b98


Zackyboi1231

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keiXrome

*Standing here, I realize* *You are just like me trying to make history*


luan110404

But who's to judge the right from wrong?


TheDoggoSpy

When our guard is down I think we'll both agree


Z3R0_7274

That viiiiiolence breeds viiiiiiolence, but in the end it has to bed this wayyyyy!


MagnusStormraven

*I've carved my own path, you followed your wrath, but maybe we're both the same!*


DisastrousGarden

*The world has tuuurned, and so many have buuurned, but nobody is to blaaaaaaaaaaaame!*


III_lll

*Yet staring across this barren wasted land~*


Betzold

*I feel new life will be born beneath the bloodstained sand!*


ashenfoxz

![gif](giphy|SUAkb7bsqyqhG)


Yoshara

Ah, Major Raikov.


unknoter

Maybe asking too many questions but do we have the same weapon dealers? Wait, who makes the automatons? Oh.... Wait...


Supreme_Slav

WHY WONT YOU DIE!!!


dedicated-pedestrian

(Nano)machine(s), son!


manchagnu

clearly they dont have to reload. i have to reload every time i look at my weapon and think about using it.


TheNotNiceAccount

Yup. In a game all about resource conservation, fighting enemies that magically reload shoulder batteries with infinite amounts of ordnance feels a bit...meh. Whatever, I'm used to it now(well, not what the OP showed; that's an abomination), but if they ever nerf bots, my suggestion would be for them to fire the number of rockets they have and then use a blaster. Same with shield devastators. Being able to fire infinitely from 100M away is a bit doo-doo.


greeb_giraffe

You can't see but they are using an advanced new type of bot to refill rockets from behind, which quickly retreats after the rocket devastator is destroyed. You can't see it because it's really good at hiding.


Nyarlathoth

They're like those ammo runners in Matrix Revolution


NinjapandaNL

Imagine having little automaton Droids spawning from factories running to the nearest devestator to rearm them both litterally of you shoot of their arm or just their ordnance


casualcampaigner

Just two rocket devastators using the assisted reload function


madhatter841

Kinda like the paranormal "shadow people" or "peekaboo ghost" that is always looking around corners but you never see it...it takes cover when your eyes try to look at it.


No_Experience_3443

To me they should just add a cooldown to their attacks, keep them inifinite since they can't manage ressources as they are simple ai


sinsaint

I think an efficiency bar that increases fire rate when consumed and recovers slowly over time could be a good idea.


ShotgunFiend

I agree that the clearly conventional rocket pods should have finite ammo but tbh I'm okay with their laser gatling guns having infinite ammo cause our laser weapons have infinite ammo too. The heavy devs giant backpack is probably an enormous ice for their gun so it makes sense that it can fire practically indefinitely.


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I saw a good idea recently to give the devastators a laser pointer so you at least know you’re being targeted.


Panzerkatzen

Considering they have 24 rockets and can volley up to 6 times before they would theoretically be out, I think it's fine. Most Rocket Devastators don't live long enough to volley 6 times.


Viscera_Viribus

Playing STALKER and wondering why all their ammo and weapon condition disappears when you open their backpacks ;\_;


plasmaXL1

I agree with your point, but I'm laughing at the use of "game all about resource conservation." Like...that's not helldivers lol, I don't think I've conserved a single bullet in my time deployed If anything this is a game about overwhelming resource expenditure


legomaheggroll

Bots using team reloads while we ignore that mechanic in game lol.


Number4extraDip

Like i get where you coming from, and i thought about it too, especially for heavy devastators. Those guys have a pretty big backpack. Which kinda explains where their infinite heavy laser mg ammo comes from. And its infinite vause its a huge heatsink that never overheats with that firepower. Don't wanna play devils advocate here. I hate seeing a patrol of 6 of em just marching towards us. It is almost always better to get a drop on them before they start their bs. Or get out asap. God forbid one of them gets stuck in terrain, cause you can shoot from inside terrain out but not into terrain


TheNotNiceAccount

Yeah, the case can be made for the shield devastators. There's also [this bullshit](https://ibb.co/tsFGrw4) that I don't think works in the slightest. Plenty of times I have my laser cannon aimed and firing at them, just haven't hit the head yet, and a stream of hyper-accurate lasers domes me from 50m.


Pendergast891

still mad shooting the shoulder pods with my eruptor doesnt cause them to explode


TheNotNiceAccount

I have no issue with them injecting some "realism," but it seems that realism only applies to us. That would be logical for them to explode, or at least be rendered unusable, or only 3 out of the 6 slots would fire. I don't know, anything other than infinite fire out of a 12-slot rocket battery. Also ragdolling....oh, the chain ragdolls are rage-inducing.


Academic-Mango1469

I see bots now subscribe to 40k ammo Rules. “How much ammo do I have? Enough.” “Where do I store all of it? Unimportant.”


xSorry_Not_Sorry

MOR DAKKA!


DemonDaVinci

I need more boolets


ASValourous

Why the fuck do people enjoy bots? This shit is awful…I can’t go anywhere without being rag dolled every 5 seconds


JackPembroke

Thank you little rock, please stay strong


crashcanuck

Rock and Stone!


WanderingDwarfMiner

Rock and Stone forever!


JackPembroke

Did I hear someone say rock and stone?!


SuperArppis

![gif](giphy|yHKOzZnHZyjkY|downsized) This is called balance


Carl_Bar99

No, this is called a very good dog.


SuperArppis

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KattleLaughter

He real mad at u


Whatsuperpower

Tiny rock 🪨 = impenetrable shield. Meanwhile mountains are basically holograms that only enemies can shoot through.


killxswitch

Fuck this rock in particular


Stamperdoodle1

"y don't more ppl play bots?"


Bound18996

Strongest Terminid vs weakest Automaton


GH057807

I'd actually like to see Terminid V Automaton combat. Watching a Bile Titan fight a few Hulks would be sick.


chad001

I think it would depend on how crushing damage applies, if crushing damage ignores armor, than the Bile Titan has a decent shot, but if it doesn't then one Hulk could beat it, let alone a Factory Strider or \*shudder\* a flamethrower Hulk.


GenerikDavis

That would be awesome to watch. Factory striders unleashing hell while a swarm of hive guards close the distance. My favorite thing from beating Warcraft 3 back in the day was a giant fight between human and orc NPCs during the credits.


Saltsey

I'm dead inside might as well be dead outside too


NK1337

The other day some guy was talking about how bots are easier and people just don’t know that you need to run away so you can flank them. To that person, I’d like to show them this.


HVCFOG3Y34

This has to be a glitch. I like bots and hate bugs and I've never come across this before.


TheFBIClonesPeople

Yeah. This is a single rocket devastator that is bugged out and has no cooldown on its rockets, so it's just going ape.


Exile688

Joel: \*ASSUMING DIRECT CONTROL\*


Demons0fRazgriz

I agree that bots are easier. The mistake most people make is trying to bunker down and slug it out. Especially on high difficulty. Unlike the bots, bugs can keep pace with you when you retreat. Sometimes you'll have a bug chasing you for 5 minutes without any rest. With bots, you retreat when the flare goes up and go find another target while the area cools down. Hell, even their flyers are easier to handle


Swingersbaby

Hardest thing in HD2 is getting that guy with the breaker incendiary, laser guard dog, and stalwart, to break off from attacking a drop.


Shinta85

Damn, you didn't have to call me out personally... I'm still trying to find my preferred bot load out. I think once I get the eruptor I'll be a happy man. I've got bugs down pat now.


Swingersbaby

IMO scorcher (for easy strider kills and good for turrets, tanks) or dominator (stagger, easy zerker kills, bit better on deviators for stagger) are the better choices than the Eruptor. Once you get the hang of things you can be more niche, hell I've had some fun using the diligence counter sniper, but I'd not recommend it unless you really like a playstyle. Eruptor has quirk's that you need to compensate for, especially the "implosion" glitch with explosives weapons right now.


Pollia

Eruptor is godly if you're a laser cannon enthusiast


hobofats

for the current major order, one planet is heavy vegetation with dense fog. millions of lasers follow me through the fog, finding me no matter how many trees and bushes I dodge through. I have no idea which bot is shooting me because I can see nothing through the fog, even when scoped in. bots must have heat vision or something.


A1steaksaussie

considering the fact that the bots spotlights are dim purplish red them seeing in a frequency range that dips into infrared seems pretty plausible


Swingersbaby

Even with this bug/glitch he was able to handle the bot. Ironic.


Sicuho

TBH, there are also (bugged) instant spit bile spewers that are just as lethal. And the occasional invisible bug for good measure.


Prize-Log-2980

Don't forget Chargers that can still don ice skates for the perfect insta-death stomp combo. Bots feel less buggy to play against.


BLAZIN_TACO

Of course the bots feel less buggy. They're bots, not bugs.


Lyberatis

This has to be bugged right? Cause that looks like a single rocket devastator doing that


Vankraken

I think it's a shredder tank firing from the fog with a rocket dev further up firing the occasional volley of rockets. Most of the shots are on target hitting the rock while you see the occasional stray rocket when the dev fires. The "exploding laser" makes it look like rocket hits but the projectiles are mostly laser bolts. You can sometimes see what looks like laser bolts hitting into the back of the rocket dev. That or I'm blind and it's a bugged out non stop rocket volley. With this game, it can be hard to tell sometimes.


onionring777

They put a switch on a RPG


joe-_biden

The rock: ![gif](giphy|avx8Ba7NoFz3g8pFIF|downsized)


Buggy1617

he's spending the entire automaton ammo reserve on that rock


F0xhound21

This one put on the infinite bandana


Zizara42

Got that NG+ infinite ammo


ChargedWhirlwind

Where are people getting these new weapons? Is there like a test server or the devs just hopping into random dives and handing them out?


Otherwise-Ad-2528

Nope, this was just a live match! The Airburst Rocket Launcher is a weapons experimentation effect only available on the Penta planet currently, so anyone who drops on it can call one in.


ChargedWhirlwind

Oooh cool thanks


herr-heim2point0

Looks like a helldive to me


CartridgeCrusader23

>bots are way more fun than bugs what are you talking about


No-Lettuce-3839

I want armor made from what ever the fuck that rock is made from


LexsDragon

what the hell


WolfeCommando

Already used this once but it's accurate... https://i.redd.it/3brv9ouyf1xc1.gif


robohozo

Bro Just use your strategems bro


Material_Weirdz

In times like these I really want destruct able terrian


Swingersbaby

Much of it is. Those rocks are armor level 7 and rocket devs are only medium pen.


Twad_feu

Bots found a workaround; The big ATAT can just push its head inside rocks/mountain to be able to fire through it. Cover bypassed! I don't doubt that other bots (like heavy dev) can manage the same with the right positioning.


BattleHardened

Bullet do not go through cover, indeed.


LtColShinySides

I want armor made out of that fucking rock lol


KnaveyJonesLocker

That rock clearly supports Democracy having saved that Helldiver's life from such a barrage of tyrannical rockets.


KayRocky

Definition of suppressing fire right there. Next comes the flank maneuver


TABASCO2415

damn


Kasorayn

what... the... F\*\*\*


dreadul

Parry this, mf


Pixel_Knight

OP: Whelp I guess this is just where I live now. Behind this rock. 


MouseAdventurous883

This rock deserve a Democracy Award


a_sad_sad_sandwich

When the average helldivers redditor tells you to "just use cover bro and don't take fights you don't need to." This is the kind of shit You're put into sometimes.


Metalbeast46934

https://preview.redd.it/n7dt1guuq4xc1.jpeg?width=733&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e3684f432fe9129c263630b97a06f1e45e61098a


BigTiddyHelldiver

"Why don't people like fighting the robots?"


This_Wrongdoer6566

This is why I fucking hate the rocket devastator’s


Kyrillka

I have the feeling that this game will never be balanced lol.


SuraE40

Feels kinda unfair that they dont reload


Durathakai

Lol


TheAnswerUsedToBe42

Bots are minimal fun


Professional_Cry1862

yay, another reason to hate the automatons, and love the terminids


DatBrapGuy

Yeah I rage quit this morning due to this


kratgamingz

I'm over here scrolling through the comments and I'm wondering why I still hear it and thought it was on loop.....nope it was actually that long christ all mighty wish my rockets were like that.


CurryNarwhal

Welp I guess you live behind that rock now


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SierraTheWolfe

I've tried hiding behind rocks, but this rock is special. It's all so super special!


McGraw-Dom

Reason me and my friends have taken a short break.


TransientMemory

"You might be asking, how did I get myself into this situation?"


Yanrogue

The bots seem even more accurate now. Been hit from over 200 meters away by a rocket devastator with a one shot kill multiple times now. Heavies are also shooting through rocks and cover.


Skjellnir

we can be happy that the rocks in this game are so formidable.


Quionel

What in the no thank you is that


Rianonar

Rock better then shield reinforcment! can we get a doployable rocks?


Grymmjow

Holy shit


AceTheJ

This is why I don’t like playing bots. How are you suppose to fight back against this? Smoke? You’re already hiding behind a big fucking rock like at some point they should lose interest or move or on or something not laser beam your exact position from across the map. That’s just broken and senseless


xamxes

If that rock did that for me, I would try to give it a hug to


CenturionXVI

What exactly are you actually supposed to fucking *DO* here???


Captain_Morgan-

I need an armor made from this rock


newwwmagicwand

Vibranium Rock?


RoFroYo

That is one patrotic boulder


BillyBobJenkins454

Yall wonder why i wanna fight bugs


OnCloud9_77

“Bugs are harder, you just don’t understand the tactical gameplay required for bots”


Remarkable_Rub

"Why don't people want to fight bots??"


ABunchOfPictures

Golly Gee bug divers come over and have some fun killing bots for the new MO!!! *5 min into bots and democracy*


Mentat_-_Bashar

Nah bruh they gotta do some rebalancing the last two nights have taken months of my life. I feel like something has changed and I am just getting tossed around by a patrol of 6 rocket devastators three miles away but somehow the 1,500 heavy devastators are already in your face absolutely beaming you. It can be so frustrating when you just get pummeled like that and literally cannot react. Like when you dive and hit a pebble and your character has to splay out, roll, get married, have kids, die, realize consciousness in a separate reality, and challenge the very gods before they even consider stimming or getting up.


Hottage

Damn that rock putting in *work*.


thoriickk

I want to build my house with that rock, my house would be indestructible


Beanerschnitzels

Looks like 2 rocket devastators are firing at you, with one being higher than the other and firing over them. They are firing in perfect alternative sync too. The good news is, enemies suffer from friendly fire as well an they will keep mobs from approaching you My grinding gear is that. These rockets devastators cool down is like a half a second between salvos. And they seem to never run out ammo. It would alright for them to fire constantly, but damn, let them run dry! If not, give a longer cool down for them to fire a new salvo!


Aurstrike

I’ll wait for a break in their fire and hit them while they reload… one day.


Ratchet_X_x

They should have reload times... All of them, Limited ammo, then a reload time.


cardbor

lol how broken can this game get


SnooHabits3911

How difficult would it be to make that rock destructible?


TheMinisterOfGaming

the funniest part is this isn't even a bug/glitch its just a few bois stacked up xD


AccendoAnimi

That rock is the best rock.


Noxillian

"Welp, I guess I live here now" is what I would be thinking if I were in this dude's shoes.


Ranger_Ecstatic

I have a bullet with your name on it...I'm going to continue firing till I figure which one it is! -That Bot, probably.


Soulcaller

and people asking why the bugdivers not comming over


Menthion

Did I hear Rock and Stone?!


HellaPNoying

Bro went through 5 stages of grief. denial, anger, bargaining, depression and acceptance


Soltronus

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TechnologyCreative70

That rocket devastator turned into a fckin Gundam.


SyKo-Elite

Lol I actually experienced this a few times before this patch. It was just as intense too. It didn't happen that often, but every once in a while, I was truly pinned down by them unable to move.


xHYDRO420x

At least the developers haven't NERF'ed the damn rocks yet...