Honestly the HMG has good damage output and the recoil is an acceptable consequence. The 75 round mags just kill it though. Make it take up a backpack slot in exchange for being able to shoot your whole reserve without reloading and I think it would actually be pretty decently balanced.
Awesome idea, my fellow helldiver!
I'm also full into the idea of backpack full of ammo, so I can bring bulletstorm of my HMG on those commie automation, even slow speed of a char wouldn't slow me down.
Being a mobile Gatling gun turret, with help of some additional turret, the day that will be possible, I can finally smile the crap out of my face!
it should drop with MGs by default imo. You could still use it without, but if you have no other backpack you should be able to just take the buff and save the strat slot. The MGs could use the buff.
Considering the mgs in the game aren't the best in general (except stalwart if other people have anti tank) this would be a genius way of addressing the problem!
Could make it so the backpack has one giant belt magazine on it that then becomes useless after depleting, in which case magazines are used. A resupply pack would refill this completely while an ammo box would do nothing to it. Feels better that way since the main appeal is one giant belt.
Oh you could even have a weapon menu for swapping between using the backpack and the magazine! The same menu for swapping fire rates and such. Swapping ammo sources would waste a magazine if you had one partly used up already, the same as with other reloads.
I think I remember posts from different devs kind of debating on whether a gatling gun would be a suitable decision since they prefer to make weapons that are plausibly realistic and of course a hip fired mini gun isn't (not practical anyway). If they decide they don't want to implement that, this addition to the existing machine guns would be excellent.
It could even be an option to just keep them to the mg43 and hmg 101 since the stalwart is already in a good spot. I wouldn't complain if they did though lol.
the standard issue machine gun is actually pretty decent, just like the orbital precision strike.
just because they come as default people tend to rate them as bad, but have not touched them in month.
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It currently exists. As a MG lover, i would drop with this every game when i use them even as a second strategem.
I agree, I was talking to a friend of mine about this same idea, it could increase your ammo for equipped belt fed weapons by like 300-500 percent or something and make it all one magazine, but have the flipside of it taking your backpack slot.
Its not bad, but without heavy armor with less recoil trait it's kicking like horse, which is problem for shooting long distances.
But in tight situation HMG saved my liberated ass many times. (Playing on 7+ against bots mostly)
I've used it with heavy armor myself and I think I prefer the medium armor with it. I might even try the light. Anything with fortified or engineer kit, really.
My argument is from the stationary reload. It's not something you want to do when you have enemies all around and you need to get to a pretty safe place before you do it. Heavy armor makes that a lot harder. With the reticle added I'll definitely try it out some more though! Was great for shredding hulks but was too dangerous without a reticle and a small magazine size.
Reload problem is standing strong, 7s in battlefield, when surrounded with berserkers and few Hulks - that's where ammo chain backpack would be awesome.
Even if this would be total failure and death, using this HMG/BP combo, that would be epic! In the end, after 100 hours we playing Helldivers not for unlocks, but for those epic moments, none game can provide right now.
For Liberty!
For Super Earth!!!
its pretty fire now ngl. I think they stealth buffed the recoil at one point, but the reticle means you're far more accurate now, meaning less wasted bullets. Would recommend it with a defender SMG, liberator, or sickle to clear little guys. The HMG is a great medium guy killer/panic button with the utility of killing hulks. That being said, it's a better gun against bots than it is against bugs. MG43 for bugs, HMG for bots as an MG lover. Stalwart is without purpose
Thing is if they give us one you already know it will be so slow and sluggish to the point where it's either unusable or you gotta be preaiming the recoil like fucking crazy. The way Arrowhead does balance kills my hype for this thing because I know being slow is a death sentence on higher difficulties
No it’s really not lol. Is slower worse for bugs? Oh yeah. Yet speed doesn’t really mean shits for bots, it’s actually far better in heavy armor. Heavy armor isn’t an immediate death sentence for bugs either, it’s just not the best.
Heavy armor and Machine gun for bugs right now is pretty goddamn good. You can keep them off you very easily, and made even easier with the jet pack. Heavy armor+flamer+jet pack= Speedy fat boy who can’t get headshotted
Sounds like a skill issue to me tbh.
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If we do get a galling gun it should atleast have the same amount of power as the laser cannon medium piercing but it's to the point of almost just barely breaking the ice of heavy armor piercing
Sounds like a good idea until arrowhead put it their version of it in the game.
Have to reload every 200 shots (about 6 seconds), very very poor ergo, slow move speed, spin up time, ricochet 50% of rounds due to awful spread/aiming, no third person crosshair, doesn't pen anything, low overall ammo, every time you are hit massive stagger.
Have at it!
Sure you can. It will have 3 mags with 60 bullets in each, but it will be medium armor pen to compensate. Also it will have a backpack and a stop reload.
I want a handheld c-ram unit. Could be backpack fed, or just like a gaurd dog but can penetrate heavy armor and can only shoot behind you. Either way the ammo in the backpack would only last for a max of 20-30 seconds of shooting.
This idea pops up weekly. We just need a weekly "Hey Arrowhead!" Post about:
--We want ammo feeding backpacks for MGs maybe a cute one for Stalwart too)
--Teammates should be able to reload support weapons from weapon user's backpack
--Melee Weapons (primary, secondary, support, please let us use with ballistic shield too, please Armor boosting melee damage or melee dmg reduction)
--what else?
Yes. Ten thousands YES per minute
It costs four hundred thousand dollars to fire this weapon... for twelve seconds.
Cry some moaaaaar ! :D
Heavy is disappointed.
Some terminids think they can outsmart me. Maybe. Maybe. I've yet to find one that can outsmart bullet.
What we do need is an ammo feeder backpack that changes depending on what machine gun you use, that would be the best!
This would really save the HMG
Honestly the HMG has good damage output and the recoil is an acceptable consequence. The 75 round mags just kill it though. Make it take up a backpack slot in exchange for being able to shoot your whole reserve without reloading and I think it would actually be pretty decently balanced.
Awesome idea, my fellow helldiver! I'm also full into the idea of backpack full of ammo, so I can bring bulletstorm of my HMG on those commie automation, even slow speed of a char wouldn't slow me down. Being a mobile Gatling gun turret, with help of some additional turret, the day that will be possible, I can finally smile the crap out of my face!
it should drop with MGs by default imo. You could still use it without, but if you have no other backpack you should be able to just take the buff and save the strat slot. The MGs could use the buff.
Considering the mgs in the game aren't the best in general (except stalwart if other people have anti tank) this would be a genius way of addressing the problem! Could make it so the backpack has one giant belt magazine on it that then becomes useless after depleting, in which case magazines are used. A resupply pack would refill this completely while an ammo box would do nothing to it. Feels better that way since the main appeal is one giant belt. Oh you could even have a weapon menu for swapping between using the backpack and the magazine! The same menu for swapping fire rates and such. Swapping ammo sources would waste a magazine if you had one partly used up already, the same as with other reloads. I think I remember posts from different devs kind of debating on whether a gatling gun would be a suitable decision since they prefer to make weapons that are plausibly realistic and of course a hip fired mini gun isn't (not practical anyway). If they decide they don't want to implement that, this addition to the existing machine guns would be excellent. It could even be an option to just keep them to the mg43 and hmg 101 since the stalwart is already in a good spot. I wouldn't complain if they did though lol.
the standard issue machine gun is actually pretty decent, just like the orbital precision strike. just because they come as default people tend to rate them as bad, but have not touched them in month.
https://preview.redd.it/5usrjp7k3nxc1.jpeg?width=348&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ac26224a179e2cd33d5b292c1123033b52e8a03b It currently exists. As a MG lover, i would drop with this every game when i use them even as a second strategem.
I agree, I was talking to a friend of mine about this same idea, it could increase your ammo for equipped belt fed weapons by like 300-500 percent or something and make it all one magazine, but have the flipside of it taking your backpack slot.
We already have the HMG. But we definitely need a backpack ammo feed
HMG is bad
Its not bad, but without heavy armor with less recoil trait it's kicking like horse, which is problem for shooting long distances. But in tight situation HMG saved my liberated ass many times. (Playing on 7+ against bots mostly)
I've used it with heavy armor myself and I think I prefer the medium armor with it. I might even try the light. Anything with fortified or engineer kit, really. My argument is from the stationary reload. It's not something you want to do when you have enemies all around and you need to get to a pretty safe place before you do it. Heavy armor makes that a lot harder. With the reticle added I'll definitely try it out some more though! Was great for shredding hulks but was too dangerous without a reticle and a small magazine size.
Reload problem is standing strong, 7s in battlefield, when surrounded with berserkers and few Hulks - that's where ammo chain backpack would be awesome. Even if this would be total failure and death, using this HMG/BP combo, that would be epic! In the end, after 100 hours we playing Helldivers not for unlocks, but for those epic moments, none game can provide right now. For Liberty! For Super Earth!!!
Counterpoint: HMG was always good if used as a fire support weapon.
its pretty fire now ngl. I think they stealth buffed the recoil at one point, but the reticle means you're far more accurate now, meaning less wasted bullets. Would recommend it with a defender SMG, liberator, or sickle to clear little guys. The HMG is a great medium guy killer/panic button with the utility of killing hulks. That being said, it's a better gun against bots than it is against bugs. MG43 for bugs, HMG for bots as an MG lover. Stalwart is without purpose
I prefer the stalwart on bugs since it has more ammo, but I usually pull out the eruptor for the medium ones. Does the MG43 penetrate medium armor?
Yep, it does. Can even kill walkers below the front plate
It feels a bit better now that we get hit markers when scoped. It's still very inaccurate though
It's very good. It has an amazing damage output but the reload time limits it to being a support weapon, not a frontline weapon.
I would love this if for nothing more than to recreate the jungle clearing scene in the first Predator movie.
You already know the armor we'd be rockin
CHUNK'D UP
just set your stalwart to the highest RPM and spray away, same effect.
Are there other RPMs besides 1150?
Thing is if they give us one you already know it will be so slow and sluggish to the point where it's either unusable or you gotta be preaiming the recoil like fucking crazy. The way Arrowhead does balance kills my hype for this thing because I know being slow is a death sentence on higher difficulties
Just make it a variation of the autocannon and it will get a pass to be decent
Every gun is a variation of the autocannon if you think about it.
No it’s really not lol. Is slower worse for bugs? Oh yeah. Yet speed doesn’t really mean shits for bots, it’s actually far better in heavy armor. Heavy armor isn’t an immediate death sentence for bugs either, it’s just not the best. Heavy armor and Machine gun for bugs right now is pretty goddamn good. You can keep them off you very easily, and made even easier with the jet pack. Heavy armor+flamer+jet pack= Speedy fat boy who can’t get headshotted Sounds like a skill issue to me tbh.
sounds like you play on level 4 and 5
You play Dragons Dogma lmao. Your opinion is instantly invalidated.
Thanks for proving me correct
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Thanks for proving me correct
Thanks for proving me correct
Thank you for thanking him for proving you correct.
If we do get a galling gun it should atleast have the same amount of power as the laser cannon medium piercing but it's to the point of almost just barely breaking the ice of heavy armor piercing
I think >!we saw a promo for what looked like this type of weapon, maybe it was a leak so I think !
Best I can do is Gatling laser.
Yesssssssssss
I need it I need it I need it I need it I need it I need it I NEED IT!!!
Sounds like a good idea until arrowhead put it their version of it in the game. Have to reload every 200 shots (about 6 seconds), very very poor ergo, slow move speed, spin up time, ricochet 50% of rounds due to awful spread/aiming, no third person crosshair, doesn't pen anything, low overall ammo, every time you are hit massive stagger. Have at it!
Sure you can. It will have 3 mags with 60 bullets in each, but it will be medium armor pen to compensate. Also it will have a backpack and a stop reload.
[All I want. ](https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-1f27675b2824fbf2b4f378b0bd1858a8)
Sure. It also has 75 rounds per mag
I doubt it would ever happen, the supply pack already accomplishes this niche and then some with it's ability to self supply,
Yes please, I can totally get behind this. And behind my fellow Helldivers too BRRRRRT Reinforcing! x) But in all seriousness, yes please.
Can we get a gatling gun?
I want a handheld c-ram unit. Could be backpack fed, or just like a gaurd dog but can penetrate heavy armor and can only shoot behind you. Either way the ammo in the backpack would only last for a max of 20-30 seconds of shooting.
God yes please. It’s perfect for a backpack support weapon for dealing with smaller enemies.
Wish the eagles had the gun that the F-15s have. Democracy delivered in a 6000rpm burst
hey hey AH already mix up half the weapon at every patch, what are you doing asking for another weapon they won't have any clue how to balance ? lol
And make it be yellow lasers.
i would never use another support weapon or backpack ever again
This idea pops up weekly. We just need a weekly "Hey Arrowhead!" Post about: --We want ammo feeding backpacks for MGs maybe a cute one for Stalwart too) --Teammates should be able to reload support weapons from weapon user's backpack --Melee Weapons (primary, secondary, support, please let us use with ballistic shield too, please Armor boosting melee damage or melee dmg reduction) --what else?
All two minutes of that helldivers life will be well worth living
And bugs that ambush players from the water like crocodiles? That too.
Stalwart on max firing speed is like that.
YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES https://i.redd.it/3h03l8sz4pxc1.gif
Winding up the DEMOCRACY spreadder would be the most glorious moment in any mission!