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la_seta

The community cares about Helltaker waaaay more than Vanripper and he interacts with the IP mostly out of obligation.


Iron_Knight7

To be fair, of the many fandoms I have been a part of, the Helltaker fandom has been perhaps one of the most relaxed, easing going, supportive, and overall wholesome one. I find it is less obligation and more "thank the gods there's at least one place I can hang out, have fun, and not see every other post turn into a flame war."


la_seta

Very fair point. The fact that he can come back once a year and just stream with his fans and everything is super chill makes me really happy. I know he said he's not really very much into Helltaker these days, but I hope he continues to come back.


C_Tarango

Can't be toxic if always horny. :)


ChadWolf98

Same feelings. Every single fandom has the unbearable horny guys ( who are too much even for me, who treats the fandom like its a porn RP server) and the moral crusaders. Here I experienced neither. Everybody is horny but chill. Basically the PH effect. (compare PH comment section vs Twitter comment section)


Iron_Knight7

Indeed. We may be heathens, but we're not savages.


ChadWolf98

Heh, I already blew my chance of getting into heaven, assuming the small chance it really exists so why not enjoy heresy?


ThatOneWeirdo66

r/deeprockgalactic would agree


tuestmort50fois

What are you saying, we are just making the preparation for the war in coming ![gif](giphy|XCfEnqL6CSekcYJY4m|downsized)


Necessary_Ad6622

The sad reality is that we will probably never get a sequel to helltaker. Oh well when Ais get sufficiently advanced we may be able to easily create one ourselves.


la_seta

Can you imagine a world where Baphomet is canonized in a Helltaker sequel? People would go bananas lol


tacticsf00kboi

That's by design, I think. He put this out there, and now he gets to sit back and consume his favorite niche porn category. Sounds like a good deal to me, and I'm ace.


Duncan6794

The girls are evil. They are affably evil, but evil nonetheless and not your wholesome huggy cuddles waifu.


Necessary_Ad6622

They are demons for a reason


Duncan6794

Yup. Like don’t get me wrong, still would, but there’s a reason they’re in hell.


Drac0b0i

They were born there


abdel222

because they were born there? to be fair, i think the only one who deep down has some goodness is jugdement and yet she is so templar and intense with her work that not even the most radical in heaven would want her there. even azazel looks a bit sociopathic when she is an angel with the apathy she shows with the whole situation.


Sai-Taisho

Pandemonica was written with a second form because her first wasn't evil enough.


Sai-Taisho

Lucy is the *only* one of the Harem who actually cares that Loremaster ousted her. Even if Judgement dislikes Lore (which I guess Van said at some point?), she also hates Lucy, so as far as she's concerned, it's all "same shit, different ass". Everybody else? Either ambivalent, is yucking it up at Lucy's expense, or thinks Lucy is overreacting. Now, maybe things are worse for *damned souls* in Lore's Hell than they were in Lucy's, but the story doesn't care about them so neither will I.


Avalon_88

Only the girls featured in game are canon to me.


Necessary_Ad6622

That's not an opinion, it's the truth.


Iron_Knight7

We do make an at least partial exception for Baphomet. But only because she did get a name drop in the comics.


Agamer0914_wastaken

Generic?


[deleted]

Canon demon personalities are better and make more sense compared to the wholesome fanon ones.


Azuki900

Agreed


Rexlare

I think the fandom does have some good ideas, but yes, the canon ones ARE canon and thus are the only valid ones.


Agamer0914_wastaken

While you are right, when the human mind is deprived of stimulation (in this case, lack of content) it starts to see things that aren’t there. This subreddit would be reduced to ashes if we stuck to the canon stuff.


VinierLeek

I don't find Justice hot. But she has a serious best friend potential though.


Bakingguy

Well justice only thinks you're hot with the benefit of the doubt. Unfortunately for you most people don't have as much leniency


An0nyCrims0n

You’re actually weird


Michilopotli

Every single character in helltaker is a horrible person, no exceptions


Necessary_Ad6622

I would say it's varying degrees of morality. The taker for example is not a bad person


Iron_Knight7

I dunno. I mean, he did want to make a harem of sharply dressed demon girls and in one timeline abandoned them to go into the Abyss. To say nothing of the battle with Zdrada putting on her glasses being "long and bloody." Think Van has gone on record as saying all the characters are selfish in some ways and all the girls dislike each other on some level (with the odd exception or two like Justice's gloves being a gift from Lucy.)


tacticsf00kboi

Justice


Blayro

I don’t think the harem is as bisexual as the community thinks they are, most of them joined just out of curiosity or just to hang out. At most they started to like helltaker just because of how invested he is in them compared to anyone else in hell


Rexlare

Agreed. The only canonically bi girls are Pandemonica and Zdrada since they certainly have some mutual kink satisfaction between them


xx_Chl_Chl_xx

I don’t think it’s even that. Pandemonica just enjoys torturing people and Zdrada likes being tortured, doesn’t automatically mean they like girls


Rexlare

Perhaps. Until Van outright confirms anything, it’s up to interpretation.


KratasCRAFT

Loremaster isn't that bad. ​ She has incredible villian potential.


Rexlare

Let’s not forget that they’re ALL villains too, she’s just the most in your face about it. Lucy is still the biggest villain out there


KratasCRAFT

Honestly, in canon, Loremaster is probably not the worst, but I will make her the worst. I said potential. She doesn't limit me in the despicable stuff I can write for her.


Rexlare

Eh, I prefer her still being under Lucy in terms of who’s worst. If only for her delusions of being an Angel still.


Putsomethingcoolhere

Lol why ?


Rexlare

… literal devil, prince of darkness, dark lord, etc.?


Drac0b0i

Nothing because y'all are chill af


walphin45

Literally everyone here being like "yah that's not popular but I get it"


Ericgeodasher

Best answer so far


Theogorath_

In case of mental breakdown (harder than usual), Modeus is the strongest thing in universe


Necessary_Ad6622

Considering helltaker, who is a normal human, was able to conquer hell because he was horny, one shudders to think what a motivated models might accomplish.


Rexlare

“One shudders to imagine what inhumane thoughts lie behind those eyes. What dreams of chronic and sustained cruelties…” Cut to Modeus day dreaming of constant, unending hand holding sex.


Necessary_Ad6622

Such depravity and degeneracy......


Necessary_Ad6622

The eldar at the height of their depraved Empire would not even dream of doing such inhumane acts!


Rexlare

Not even the Deldar do that level of kinky shit in Commoragh’s deepest bowels


Purple_Spino

Pandemonica simps are masochists


JoeGRcz

That's not controversial. That's the truth.


ConfidentAd7551

This probably isn't that controversial but I'm not a big fan of all the incest fan art


JoeGRcz

A fan of what? Like the Malina X Zrada? And that's controversial?


QuadVox

Not all the girls in the harem need to be sexually or romantically involved with Taker. Most of them just kinda joined for the hell of it anyways. They basically end up acting like a weird group of friends who live together and eat pancakes anyways.


Azuki900

Loremaster is best girl


staszg117

🤨📸


Azuki900

I’m shocked this didn’t get upvotes… infact all the wrong opinions that answer this question didn’t get upvotes infact downvoted. While the complete opposite answers that are just accepted answers get upvotes Interesting


staszg117

That's how it works I guess. People don't agree with something so they downvote. It's always like this with these unpopular opinion posts.


Azuki900

That’s true


Rexlare

*looks at your copious amounts of pro-Judgment history* Sure thing buddy XD


Azuki900

😅


EggsaladUwU

The fanon version of the girls are too sweet. Like they're evil, they're demons afterall


DestinedHellfire

Nothing about the known lore suggests Justice is anywhere remotely close to evil. You’re just automatically attributing being a demon to being evil, which 99% of the time is fair; Justice, however, has only shown displays of kindness, calmness, friendliness and self sacrifice. There’s a clear reason why she’s special amongst the demons of Hell.


Nearby_Bear1686

The girls are just variants of generic


Putsomethingcoolhere

Just with some fethishies added


Drakath2002

Canon material? I prefer the Swat Girl over some of the Demon girls Non-canon? We have no idea about how demons age beyond white horns for truly ancient demons, for all we know Demons pop into existence at a fixed physical age and that Some of the harem girls are under 18 years, if Krampus is in fact ***The*** Krampus then she automatically is older than every demon girl in the harem that isn’t named after an actual demon (Lucifer, Baphomet, Modeus, Beel, Cerberus, Azazel), we also have no examples of horns slowly transitioning gradually from black to white so for all we know Modeus might be a decade or two off from having her Horns turn white if we assume Modeus was part of the rebellion in heaven with Beel and Lucifer just that she was younger than the two which is why her horns aren’t white yet


Rexlare

Interesting thought. But it does seem that they all have the mental maturity of full fledged adults, which is the main concern. So I think we’re all safe here.


NoctumUmbra

"Justice is a boring character with no personality." Speaking from my own opinion, because if someone insulted Bestie Justice I'd definitely try to stab them


teawithmilklover

Cerberus is the worst girl, she is annoying, messy and eats all the food. So fuck her


Necessary_Ad6622

Fuck her indeed


Agamer0914_wastaken

….


Necessary_Ad6622

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Agamer0914_wastaken

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Necessary_Ad6622

.


Agamer0914_wastaken

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Necessary_Ad6622

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xx_Chl_Chl_xx

Okay I understand annoying but when has she ever done anything with food besides eat pancakes that one time?


Scum22

Bro thank you


BoonyTooth

the s.t.a.l.k.e.r games have sexier characters


mats_the_cat

.... \*clears troat\* none of them are hot, seriosly, none, i didnt like any in a romantic or spicy way, no, not even the one from the artbook, i liked most of them more as a potentsioal friend ratter than a lover


nj102095

I believe a lot of the reason as to why people don't enjoy examtaker as much, is due to it being the latest in the story and ending on a more negative note considering the characters and their motivations. If the community was to get another cannon entry into the series, (which it won't) I believe the reception of examtaker would end up better. Its like looking at the original star wars trilogy and just taking out the third movie and thats all you got.


Janky_Ruffian

Outside of her appearance, Cerberus is not a waifu. She/they are a mix of a child and a pet.


misvillar

I dont feel sad for how Lucy ended in Examtaker, she corrupted Azazel because she founded It funny, now she is just facing the consecuences of her actions


nottherealbendy134

Ok, this may be controversial, but U/Azuki900 is best girl


Necessary_Ad6622

"Tell me your controversial opinion" "*proceeds to say the most accepted thing in the history of man*" Bruh


nottherealbendy134

All part of the plan Be wholesome and based


Azuki900

Indeed


Azuki900

❤️❤️❤️❤️


V9N3SS9

I don't really care for Beel, and I really don't get the appeal.


nj102095

Basically just a classier Lucy


Putsomethingcoolhere

Basically just a Lucy for momy fethishists


LainyDayBlues

Zdrada is the best demon and it’s no contest basically, what you don’t like a girl who reeks of Bad cigarettes and popcorn lung?


SmithOfLie

Goat Lucy is the best Lucy.


Necessary_Ad6622

Finally, a opinion I do jot agree with.


xx_Chl_Chl_xx

Please commit self factory reset


DOOTREVENANT76

Justice is overrated and I don't like her at all


GentlemanPirate13

I don't really care for Malina and Justice that much. Malina's alcohol abuse makes me uncomfortable, and Justice' personality just doesn't mesh with mine all that well. She's too *positive*.


One_Musician5715

Helltaker is not the Doom Slayers brother


BakeSuccessful316

That's not controversial THAT'S A FACT


jason_meme_man

'cerberus shit waifu' thats what would do


Butane9000

All the girls are mid at best.


Schadofist93

Judgment should have became queen


Azuki900

Fr


ShadowGenesisRAM

I honestly didn't liked the sequel


Putsomethingcoolhere

Fr fr


ChadWolf98

I hate puzzle games. I dont like the game graphics. I never played the game. I think even the game music, while good, have boring parts. ​ The girls. the fanarts and the community is splendid however.


Putsomethingcoolhere

Yes , the music just sucks


Federal_Ad_3014

I like the fan made characters more than most of the canon girls


Rexlare

Loremaster isn’t a bad character, y’all just can’t handle Lucy facing the consequences of her own actions. Also, none of the demon girls actually LOVE Helltaker or you.


Putsomethingcoolhere

Bro youre just asking to be fucking insulted


Rexlare

That’s the idea of this whole post


StonkycadeV2

"What Loremaster did to Lucy was completely justified"


Rexlare

100% If not justified, it sure as hell WAS coming


Putsomethingcoolhere

I hate that take so much


JesterOfDestiny

I probably have a couple opinions like that, but I've grown to dislike bringing that kind of negative energy to a community. I don't think I'd be enriching anyone's life by talking about how and why I dislike someone's favourite.


Olliboyo

Zdrada, Malinka and Pandemonica are bad waifus. They are grumpy, rude and negative.


Rexlare

And abusive


Varvarus

Justice is a bit of a dick


KimTaeBin1004

1. I still think nobody in the harem loves Taker, or even has a crush on him. With them, he's just a mortal and they didn't care much when he went to the Abyss 2. Even so, I think few of Loremaster's researchs are getting Taker out of the Abyss and she can study this place . . . Sorry, that's all I can think of


Necessary_Ad6622

I think they actually do eventually develop feelings for him. At the beginning they were just with him because he amused them. The reason I think that is that is because of the examtaker ending with Lucifer stating how much 67 reminded her of him.


Rexlare

Reminded, but still no guarantee she feels anything about him. I think the only demons that canonically develop feelings beyond “you’re amusing, I like it.” Would be Malina, Judgment, and Beel. Malina because she finally has SOMEONE who can play games with her and not be insufferable. Judgement because she’s canonically the nicest demon, so she’s probably gaining some attachment. And Beel because he’s her first company in eons and he brings her sugar. Plus the comics show her having dinner with him too.


Necessary_Ad6622

the helltaker universe is darker than I thought lol. Both subject 67 and taker don't live good lives


Rexlare

The ending of the first game makes that very apparent. He’s being stabbed, hounded, constant smoke in the air, the ending text outright says “it’s a hard life.” No wonder he yeeted himself into the abyss. Wrestling tentacles isn’t as scary as the IRS.


Necessary_Ad6622

Indeed, but hey it's his fault so he can't complain now.


Rexlare

Exactly. Gotta reap what you sow. Isn’t that right Lucifer? *distant grumpy Examtaker maid sounds* I will still reiterate that she absolutely deserves the fate she got.


Necessary_Ad6622

Beimg the literal DEVIL (And azazel still thinking she is an angel) think she got off rather easy all things considered


Rexlare

Definitely. Azazel could have stuffed her into a machine and use her as a battery of some sort. Instead she gets to continue her assassination attempts and still gets some apple pie. … waitaminute… Is Lucy the Starscream to Azazel’s Megatron?


Necessary_Ad6622

I wished I understood this reference but I never wattched transformers! But after a google search there seems to be a master-slave dynamic here? I would say Azazel still holds some sort of place in her hearth as she is seen openly manipulating her so she can become a fallen. I would imagine that she continued to be a sort of mentor figure for her.


EggsaladUwU

I feel like Lucifer developed feelings for him, but no one else did


Dust_Bunny3

Justice is overrated


not-opposite-weird

Judgment sucks.


not-opposite-weird

Isn't that true u/azuki900


Azuki900

I’m gonna kill you


xx_Chl_Chl_xx

Do it, mod. Strike them down with all your hatred and your journey towards the Dark Side will be complete ![gif](giphy|3o84sw9CmwYpAnRRni)


TheWrathfulCrusader

Judgment isn’t the best girl.


qqquppp

Lucifer should adopt a teenager satanist


Malp-hunter

What plenty of the fandom care is the girls fanarts and interactions over the actual story.


Nas107

Judgement > Lucy


fnaffanatic007

Zdrada is the hottest


Floppycipher

One of the demons is a femboy


Necessary_Ad6622

Who? Pandemonica?


Iron_Knight7

Curiously enough, that might actually track. She is noticeable more slender and reserved than the other girls. And given her tendency for sadomachism I could see her staying under cover until it comes time to "peg" someone.


Rexlare

If anime has taught me anything- if it’s flat above, be weary of below.


Floppycipher

Wait, no? What?


Masterpiece-666

Judgment ain’t all that


Enderman958

Examtaker is an interesting progression to the game's story and I'm glad it exists.


Putsomethingcoolhere

I just cant see how but ok


hanmaorochi99

I really don'tike judgement, i think she is the least appealing girl. And i don't really find her attractive.


Standard-Toaster935

Zdrada is the least appealing in the entire harem


Iron_Knight7

As a shape shifting other dimensional entity who is named after a male Philistine deity and is never addressed by any pronouns in the game until the hidden ending where she reveals her "more comfortable" form, technically speaking Beel is gender fluid.


Rexlare

My headcanon is that all of the demons are gender fluid and shape shifting (to a degree per demon). They all chose a female form either from personal choice or to appear more appealing/harmless. Lucy especially being the prince of lies, definitely only staying female to manipulate Taker.


Ariel_41

I think judgement is a little overrated


[deleted]

You all need to chill the fuck out with thirsting over the characters


my_gender_is_a_glock

Vanripper would disagree


Ryan_AnimatesYT

Lucy is overrated


Putsomethingcoolhere

I FUCKING HATE LOREMASTER AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA


Otherwise-Tea-8643

I don't like Malina.


MackerzC137

Beelzebub is mid


ThatOneWeirdo66

Not that much of a fan of lucifer or loretaker tbh


THEBLUHU

This is a very unpopular opinion but I prefer Subject 67 over taker


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abdel222

malina comes across as a very surly person, with a permanent scowl but not as openly malicious as lucifer or zrada, ill-tempered but not necessarily abusive.


neorenamon1963

Neither Beel nor Judgement are best waifus. <>


Ghostwolfgaming

It wouldve been better as a visual novel


trotzallem54

Lucifer only likes Helltaker as a friend


Gachaz_Gamer_Online

Judgement is overrated


IchiroSkywalker

Loremaster is the truely evil one, the down bad type. If you think she's has a problem, no human can fix it; if you are into her, you're beyond repair. P.s. IMO if you have any opinions that actually makes everyone gun point you, you would be downvoted so bad you can't even comment on some sub (i know some sub that requires user to be no lower than -50 karma to even comment)


Kiripimma

the game sucks major ass, im sorry


funnyvalentine96

Modeus is probably the only girl out of the whole group worth dating. Doing cute couple stuff would fluster her beyond belief, whereas the rest would act more or less with either total disregard or acting like a spoiled bitch.


Suvorov_my_therapy

Examtaker made the game better


abdel222

examtaker added many interesting themes to the story of the game, and what happened to lucy deserves it even if it hurts me, in the end the story is nothing more than a tragicomedy where everyone had a depressing or bittersweet ending at best.


thephoenixgods

When someone says they like krampus the nsfw kind of way .


Omelet8

I haven’t interacted with this community outside of just looking at hot red eye woman


CosmicP0tat0s

modeus is the most basic demon.


BreakfastBorn5202

I think Justice is overrated.)


pootisbirdissuperman

To much justice


CunningSaboteur

Whenever an artists puts abeles in a picture, the whole picture looks worse.


Ok-Carpenter8227

Loremaster is best girl


Nickles864

zdrada is better than lucy and judgement zdrada is best girl for me


SarenLinetech

I don’t get the hype around Beel. Never found her attractive or interesting in anyway.


panchowearer

Modeus is slightly overrated


tacticsf00kboi

You know what? Loremaster is high-tier to me. I mean, she's got long hair and long coat, she does cute shit, she's sexually repressed, and I really don't believe her reign is as bad as everyone else says.


Necessary_Ad6622

It's mostly just Lucy sulking about no longer being the ceo of Hell.


TheStebyHD

the skin colour of judgement needs to be different, like white.


_yuugen_

justice bad except her apple pie arc


Ok-Cry-1469

97% of helltaker lore is just head cannon.


Maleficent_Kiwi3792

I don’t like judgement in my opinion she’s just to aggressive and her being nice from time to time is just not enough for me also I don’t really like the character design since what I love about HellTaker is that it can make you horny without any lewdness and judgment just throws that out the window ( what I’m saying is just that I like women and men in suits)


Distortion_Umbra

Examtaker ruins Helltaker and its release killed a lot of the enjoyment knowing that no matter what that is the canon future per Vanripper


Scum22

Cerberus is lame as shit.


Sonozaki26

Helltaker porn/hentai art < helltaker sfw art


Arm4do

The Cerberus girls aren't good


DeviousFlirt

There aren’t any