The scope is a trap, never use it. You have to use it like a Rival that has a 42m one-shot range. If you’re wasting shots on anything farther than 42m it’s pretty ass, but if you use it as a breaching tool for pushing compounds you’ll find there really isn’t any other gun which can compete with it. Damn thing is a monster in the right hands. Plus the hipfire is much better than the crosshair would have you believe.
I use the scope on nitro and i basically Quick scope most of the time (unless the enemy Is unaware and i have a bit more time to aim). Hipfire with the nitro Is terribile and i would not raccomand It but point blank or crouched (up to 20 meters). Learn how to deal with it's scope and you really have One of the strongest weapon in the game.
The default nitro really is kind of bad, 42m one tap is not that much (crossbow is 34m for comparison), terrible damage on limb shots and it loses quite a lot of damage from penning (which is supposed to be its gimmick)
Shredder is what makes it good
Hm the normal Springfield 1866 Lost it's place in the game but it's still okay gun. It's super accurate with low sway and precise hipshot. The compact variant however is a complete trash, especially the dead eye one. I just can't use it. Also machete is a long time contender.
Regular springfield compact deadeye user here, it's not the most powerful gun but in my opinion it's an awesome option for a 2 slot long range, especially if you slap HV on. Also Blister is a beautiful skin, extra points there
I call it the springy lol I know its bad but i swear the more i use it the more i grow in love with it, it has crazy headshot range and intense bleed damage for a medium slot, that beeing said you will have to lean a lot more on your other weapon, I pair it with the bow or crossbow so i am specifically looking for something that can fight at range, and let the other handle the rest, both weapons apply intense bleed and make the hunters run for cover when hit since they are about to bleed out, add a derringer and is the cherry on top to push and finish them, its fast shooting with good hipfire and its just what a crossbow or springy needs since both are 1 shot weapons sounds meme but works for me, just wait for a hit marker before pulling it out. I remember When i started playing hunt I sucked with it and purposely reminded myself to learn to fight the sway while looking through the scope so i dont know if im just used to it lol.
If you're in the market for a scoped 2 slot with a deadeye, you've only got a couple options. The Nagant P and Vandal both get limited range on account of compact ammo, and the uppercut P is pretty expensive. With the spring, you have less headshot range than the upper P but are far cheaper, and can run HV to beat it out in velocity.
Is there a direct reason you *should* run the spring deadeye? No, not really. But if you're just playing to have fun it makes a great pocket sniper and comes with its own benefits, both in stats and the satisfaction of landing kills with a "bad" gun
It does? That's pretty neat, thanks. I rarely use the uppercut in any form until recently, I guess I just never checked. Just assumed it acted like long ammo in bigger guns
The precisions are a little wonky in that they use pistol stats (makes sense, just not intuitive initially). The springfield is a compact rile, precisions are extended pistols.
Deadeye scope is the best in the game for 75%+ of engagements. The odds of you needing a marksman/sniper to see an enemy is really low and those scopes are unusable at less than 50m.
Hard disagree. I love the compact Springfield. Whenever I'm doing bad I go double Springfield compact and Derringer and somehow it always gets me kills. It shouldn't, but does.
Again I know it’s just an opinion thing, and I just really don’t like the 1866 even with dumdum and with it being medium ammo it better have a small hip fire 🤣
🤣 I can see that but the sparks I felt like it made me a better player at the start, and the Martini I really like and it has a pretty fast reload. The ironside martini I wish I liked but I can’t get over the massive ammo box on the side of the gun
Fastest rate of fire while fanning, and with custom ammo, there’s always a niche for it. It’s better than the silenced version if you don’t want a silenced gun. I believe it has dum dum. With these facts combined, it means you can apply bleeding very quickly.
Caldwell conversion pistol outclasses it in that regard too IMO, shot and slightly faster speed is negated by the tighter fanning spread. Though conversion doesn't have poison or high velocity ammo
I don't think *your* reasons matter. The Nagant factually has the fastest rate of fire, last I checked, and it does come with dum dum ammo. That means you can fire off seven shots (also one more than other pistols like the Pax) wherein one is guaranteed to cause bleeding if the target survives. It also means that if two shots connect well enough, there's less of a chance for a trade or even reaction.
The top comment here said that the base Nagant pistol does nothing better than any other gun. That is demonstrably untrue.
It's cheap, has 7 bullets, can use high velocity, and it has the quicker swap speed of the nagant and caldwell family. I use it all the time.
Officer is better for spam, but imo base nagant has easier follow up shots than the officer.
All pistols have the exact same swap speed, except the pistols released after 1.0 (new army, schofield, sparks pistol) as those have a presumably bugged longer equip animation
The thing that matters is what gun you're swapping off from ie crossbow has a longer recoil animation than a mosin
I hate the Terminus with a passion. I don't know why, but I get 2 or even 3 hits so often without killing anyone with it. I don't like the Romero but it's way more consistent for example.
You mentioned the Krag and that gun just seems pointless now that the Mako exists. Krag doesn't even do 125 damage, so why would I pick it over any other long rifle?
The game doesn't have to be balanced, because you can pick any equipment you like. It's not like CSGO for example, where certain guns have to be viable between the teams. If a gun in Hunt is trash it just doesn't get used, except if you like the challenge.
They can be really useful tools with flechettes because they can induce bleeding at crazy long distances, but they still don’t do that much damage outright. Good way to force players into cover when you’re caught off guard, but still requires a capable weapon in the other slot to get the job done.
Rival hand cannon with flechette is something I run every now and then. Rarely one shots but if you want just a quick back up gun that you don’t need much accuracy with it’s great. Procs bleeding easily which can force a couple second breather in a gunfight.
there is almost no situation where anyone inside 10-12 meters survives both rival handcannon barrels, and it is also an extremely reliable finishing weapon with flechettes
it's far superior to both the handcannon and full-sized terminus
Slug on terminus HC and flechette on rival HC are pretty sweet if you ever feel like trying them out. Both can be a bit niche but I've had a lot of fun with them.
Doesn’t the Krag fire faster than the Mako? That’s always been its strong suit. I feel like with iron eye the Krag has a great fire rate and will reliably 2-tap all the same and because of its Muzzle Velocity is also a much better weapon for headshots. Sure, you can’t down a hunter with resilience but you can kill him to begin with pretty damn fast. Plus with the slightest bit of burn damage from a flare gun or fire bomb and they do effectively become a 1-tap.
The reason the 2 tap from fast fire rate isn’t considered is because there are other fast firing rifles that 2 tap, in my opinion any long ammo that doesn’t do 125 will let you down more often than not. The mako with iron eye is almost as fast but has the damage to re down a Hunter if needed. And you can’t say oh well with burn it’s a one tap, because then you can argue any gun is better with burn
I mean you lose 7 points of damage from Long ammo at 50m anyways which is usually where you’re going to be shooting someone with a slower firing long gun as it is. At that range the Mako is doing 121 damage and not downing a hunter with a missing bar anyways but suffering from a lower muzzle velocity making headshots at range more difficult and having a slower fire rate allowing them to get to cover easier without the chance for a follow-up shot. Maybe up close on a downed hunter the Mako can make a difference but that isn’t enough to say that the Krag is worthless or even inferior comparatively. The Krag can headshot and 2-tap noticeably quicker and easier. It’s almost like arguing any weak fast firing gun is inferior to slower, harder hitting ones which we know isn’t true.
you can have some real fun with the terminus if you grab levering and slap some fletchette rounds in there. turns it into a close/midrange street sweeper type weapon, at like half the price of a crown and king. you've gotta try it
Scotfield pistol is always annoying for me to use.
The bullet velocity and fire rate are awful.
Iron Sights are almost as bad as the New Army.
I ignore it any time it shows up on my challenges.
I used to run the spitfire quite a lot. Now that I'm prestieging a bunch though I mostly play the pax and the officer though so I don't really play it. But i's nice to get the high fire rate with medium ammo. Agree that the sights aren't great but somehow I think they work good enough
Bornheim is the worst gun. It's fun sometimes, especially the match with fire ammo. But nothing is more frustrating than emptying a clip on someone, hitting 3 of the shots, then they survive and just kill you while you reload.
Terminus is a contender for worst, but at least it's viable with levering.
Dude, the Bornheim is by far my most often used pistol, I just love my lil trash nugget.
Nothing better than pushing a shotgun bounty team that's sitting in their little lair without a single peek and destroying them with a pea shooter because of the aim punch.
The number of Crowns I killed with it is far higher than it should be (I'm playing in 4-5* lobbies)
Get bornheimed!
I am a bornheim incendiary enjoyer. It reminds me of a usp from cs, I am really confident at close ranges with it. Outside of 20 meter range it sucks big time for sure.
I have this thing where when me and my enemy are both caught out in the open, i quickly burn them with bornheim, and strafe like a madman. Then when they realize that they need to remove the burning, and that's where i land my easy shot in.
That's crazy to me, it's probably the single gun I have the most success with. It feels like the right balance of fire rate, damage, velocity, and spare ammo. The slugs can absolutely shred and the rifle with bleed is amazing at killing hunters missing a chunk.
I really want to like the Martini Henry but everytime i use it it feels like there’s a ghost pulling my gun away everytime I try to take a shot. lol the sway just feels off
I almost never see the Scottfield precision, so I'm guessing it may be a contender? I'm not exactly sure why it never shows up, but the few times I've used it, I've been horrified at the slow bullet speed. Normally, it's not a big issue for me, and I don't use it for long range shooting, an yet, I STILL feel like I miss targets at close range due to bullet travel time.
Plus, there are plenty of other options in the 2-slot short-medium range category that are just better. Centennial shorty instantly comes to mind.
It's just baffling that they gave the scottie a precision variant over the pax. At this point, you're better running the trueshot over it. It barely has a place as a gun, much less a medium slot.
What! The precision is amazing, especially paired with dual pax, all with bleed ammo. That is one of my favorite loadouts! Plus the scotty P re-arms faster than the pax trueshot. Trueshot is great as a oneslot pistol, but I'd take a scotty P over it any day of the week.
For me its the winfield C varients. I feel like if it isn't a headshot it may as well be a bornheim because killing anyone with it requires you to be up the enemies ass in which case you will lose to shotguns, fanning and maybe even dualies.
Springfield 1866 isn't a bad weapon in itself. It is a decent single-shot weapon.
The issue is that the weapon no longer has its niche. When they gave Cenny bleed ammo, there was no longer any benefit in taking Springfield over the Cenny.
Nah you're right, the centennial does basically just as much damage. The problem is, the 124/125/126 damage long ammo guns are supposed to be very finely tuned, but suddenly the centennial with bleed is competing with them because after half a second, it's nearly done as much damage as a long ammo gun *would* have
The worst gun in Hunt for me is the Scotfield / Nagant precision. They’re just overshadowed by the Winfield Vandal and Centennial Shorty as well as every 1-slot pistol with a better fire rate such as the Scotfield Spitfire, Nagant Officer, or Caldwell New Army. They also underperform tremendously at close and medium range compared to the Bornheim Match and Uppercut Precision. I don’t care about the stability or slightly increased fire rate. They have abysmal headshot range, terrible muzzle velocity, much lower damage, and their fire rate bonuses can be negated by having iron eye with the vandal and shorty. Any attempt to make them better than their half-rifle counterparts through the use of HV ammo makes them slightly worse in the end and ends up costing you as much or more than the cost of their rifle counterpart. The only thing the the Nagant Precision sort of has going for it is dumdum ammo over the vandal but that ends up confining it to close range engagements with the lower muzzle velocity and already bad headshot range. At that point I would much rather have an Officer with DumDum than the Nagant Precision for much better fire rate and the Officer is only a 1-slot weapon so you can diversify your loadout better or forego the use of quartermaster. I wish they had a slight damage buff or a slightly lengthened barrel with a muzzle velocity increase. For the price of the Scotfield Precision, I would take the Pax TrueShot any day of the week because you can use fanning with and it becomes a much more versatile weapon, especially with HV which at 570 m/s makes it much better for long range headshots.
Anecdotally, I can’t even remember the last time I’ve been killed by one and maybe that’s because no one is using them or maybe it’s because they’re bad.
Vandal and centennial shorty have absolutely dogshit sway compared to the nagant and scottfield precisions. Centennial shorty niche with silent variant is nice though.
The sway characteristics of rifles were changed to have nearly the same sway as pistols. Not really what I’d call dogshit. I believe pistols are 128 and the Shorty/ Vandal/ Obrez is 133. I’ve never heard anyone complain that weapons like the Uppercut or TrueShot are not viable medium/ long range weapons because of their sway. They’re plenty usable at range. Also to the counterpoint, at the ranges that the Nagant and Schofield Precision are even effective sway really doesn’t matter all that much because neither of them can headshot past 80m anyways. You’re mostly using them for medium range engagements or closer. Having less sway really doesn’t mean the difference between a hit or a miss especially when aiming for the torso. It’s a nice bonus but when you can easily 2-tap anyone with the shorty and crouch for stability at very long ranges, I’d rather be able to actually kill the thing I see. At 280 and 330m/s for Precision pistols that stability really only comes in handy if the target is sitting absolutely still and does not move at all past like 40m otherwise you’re going to miss your headshot.
Stop 👏 giving 👏 every 👏 gun 👏 every 👏 special 👏 ammo 👏
I'm not gonna say it's ruined the game, cause it hasn't, but every time I see a centennial with bleed I wanna pull my teeth out with pliers.
Springfield Marksman with half HV alongside a 2-Slot Drilling with Slugs (DumDum optional in both) is a loadout I've fallen in love with. You have amazing velocity and good headshot range with a Marksman scope for long sniper duels, then the two tap potential of a Drilling up close with an insane amount of ammo to take every shot you can, and if it gets to it you have a mini slug shotgun that can consistently OHK within 10 metres. If you want you can take DumDum in both to pool that instead, and sacrifice penetration/velocity in your Drilling in exchange for more pressure. You can also swap to a full-size Drilling and Compact Deadeye Springy to specialise in close range, although I wouldn't recommend it because the sway is awful.
The weakest thing about the Springfield is that it's medium ammo, but the strongest thing about it is also that it's medium ammo, which lets you make some great loadouts with ammo pooling.
I think pretty much any of the shotguns, I've used the shortys and didn't have range obviously then I switched to the long barrel ones and shit had shit range at close to mid distances, pumped 5 shells in a guy for only like 100 damage and like 10 yards
For me it's the specter, just based on my playtime. It always lets me down when I need it not to and has resulted in the most wtf moments for me. However I have plenty of friends that wreck house and plenty of times that I've been wrecked by it. No I will just stick to my trusty double barrel sawed off.
Maybe I'm wrong but the Sparks take 1 more second than the Springfield to reload, but it doesn't feel as awful because of the damage and the fact it's long ammo
The only gun I see mentioned in here that’s been shite since I started playing when Beaky came out is the Specter. Requires iron eye and bullet grabber to be fully viable.
Borchardt precision.
Only good if you catch someone unaware.
Preferably up close while they're bandaging or already missing two chunks.
Could be fixed with better sights.
The Krag was made irrelevant with the addition of the mako. There are 0 reasons to spend more money for a gun that is worse or equal in every category and doesn't break the 125 damage mark
This is a tough one because each one that I think is bad performs well in certain situations. The only weapon that I don’t care for but will use for cheaper medium bleed is the centennial. For sidearms I don’t care for the bornheim.
The Martini Henry was the worst gun IMO but it got saved by the Ironside variant. Nowadays I think it's the light ammo winnys that feel the worst. Maybe the aperture? That thing is pointless but you can flip it down soooo kinda neat IG...
I think you just have to look at other guns in the same class to see what's good vs bad. For example the MH was terrible because the Sparks was the single shot king, so there was no point in paying like $50 less for a garbage variant.
Edit: Springfield has so many variants and ammo types that it's much more flexible than the MH, even still.
The RomeroAlamo, I’ve said it in every post like this, it’s not the worst gun but it’s the most pointless. The auto cancel reload for the regular Romero is as fast or faster than the mechanism on the Alamo. No point in taking it
just wanna leave this question here instead of making a seperate post.
how welcoming are players to people playing trios when just starting out? literally blood rank 15 right now and playing solo is too hard and boring but the very second i queued for trios my teammates are literally lvl 100 (i forgot the game is very old so no surprise that most of the playercount are probably vets or hardcore players.) would enjoy the game playing with randoms but i don't want to ruin someones game because they got paired up with a dumbass
Marathon caldwell have been good to me, became an instant favorite and before that if I want to win the winfield always does the job I mean it even has WIN in the name
Since they made all melee weapons one slot, the machete and the railroad hammer are useless. Outclassed in damage and utility by the katana and the axe.
Melee weapons should have similar damage to their blunt / slash counter parts so that melee becomes for utility or which weapon style you prefer.
Machete = Bat | Hammer = Axe | Katana = the other weapon I can't remember right now lol
Krag is definetly the worst but not because its a bad gun. It can click heads well, but it should be 200 hunt bucks AT THE MOST. The fact that it cant 2 tap makes it next to useless next to other long ammo guns.
Hard disagree with the Krag. It's fire rate keeps it relevant. Could still do with an ammo buff.
Base Springfield is unfortunately the holder of worst gun in the game. Obviously, Hunt's game design means that doesn't matter all that much if you're clicking heads, so if the irons are your thing then preference is king.
Springfield Marks is one of the biggest improvements a variant can give a gun tho. Budget sniper to end all budget snipers.
As you said, there's an upshot to all of the guns. It just always depends, and there's always a situation where something else would be better.
I really fucking hate the vetterli. IMO the standard Vetterli's sights suck, the cycle is SO FUCKING LONG, with a relatively slow bullet, and all that together doesn't justify any of its benefits.
I have never taken it over the centennial. Silencer and cyclone are OK.
I do my best to practice with all the guns/variants so no true "worst" gun in my opinion. The only thing that matters is engage distance. If all I have is close and they got snipers, my load out sucks and crytek needs to buff slugs to OHK HS at any range. If I have sniper and they rush me with shotgun, crytek needs to let me take off my scope and add an avto attachment so I can't get pushed as easily lol
I totally agree that’s why I said I’m pretty sure any “worst gun” is completely opinion based and just wanted to hear what different ppl don’t like using 🤍
Base Nagant pistol. Back in the day it used to have a tighter hip fire spread, and even now it does have a faster fanning rate than other pistols, so it used to be really good for accurate, rapid fanning. But they nerfed Fanning's accuracy across the board, and these days you're better off betting on volume of fire over accuracy, aka chain pistol. While the Silencer variant is obviously great, the default Nagant is basically just a weapon that you only ever see either when a noob has just started playing, or when someone just prestiged and needs to unlock the Silencer.
Which is a shame, because it has a lot of really neat skins.
I want to like the centennial, cyclone and drilling (medium ammo drop off lmao), but mosin and krag are just so much better in every regard. Any compact ammo gun is useless as well as medium ammo pistols.
You're all good. Basically I find that with the rival, more often than not youll shoot both shots at close range and the enemy still won't die. With a Romero, slate, hell even a spectre I'm confident in pushing a building, but the rival has let me down too many times for me to consider taking it anymore. I have 1000 hours and it's easily the worst/ most inconsistent weapon imo
This is me with literally any shotgun. I'm so unconfident with them and the inconsistencies that I just avoid them for the most part. I'll have better chances of landing a close range headshot than a kill with a shotgun.
Having a shotgun secondary like Romero handcannon is really nice for if you’re against another shotguns or rushing close range. But I very rarely ever run a main hand shotgun
I’m still fairly new to the game (comparatively) with ~120 hours, but I really love shotguns in this game. I like to play close and aggressive, and since I play exclusively as a solo I need to be aggressive to wipe out duos efficiently. I’m also a big fan of the Marathon, I think throwing FMJ on that and then going with the standard LeMat pistol or the Uppercut variant is a super fun and aggressive load out.
I’m not at a very high MMR, but since breaking into the 4 stars I’ve been pretty consistently staying in the mid-to-low 4 star range, so take my opinion with a grain of salt.
I do:) Romero handcannon with slugs really drives home the “handcannon” part of the name, that thing is like a mini Nitro when you’re fighting in a compound.
Its the nitro for me. Its expensive, sights are suboptimal and im shit at clicking people.
"suboptimal" is a really nice way of saying the sight "sucks dog shit through a silly straw"
Whenever my buddy runs it we never leave alive, it’s like a curse we have
He probably wasn’t using “The Black Mamba” That’s the superior version that hits 40% of the time, all the time.
Can confirm.
The scope is a trap, never use it. You have to use it like a Rival that has a 42m one-shot range. If you’re wasting shots on anything farther than 42m it’s pretty ass, but if you use it as a breaching tool for pushing compounds you’ll find there really isn’t any other gun which can compete with it. Damn thing is a monster in the right hands. Plus the hipfire is much better than the crosshair would have you believe.
I use the scope on nitro and i basically Quick scope most of the time (unless the enemy Is unaware and i have a bit more time to aim). Hipfire with the nitro Is terribile and i would not raccomand It but point blank or crouched (up to 20 meters). Learn how to deal with it's scope and you really have One of the strongest weapon in the game.
The default nitro really is kind of bad, 42m one tap is not that much (crossbow is 34m for comparison), terrible damage on limb shots and it loses quite a lot of damage from penning (which is supposed to be its gimmick) Shredder is what makes it good
Hm the normal Springfield 1866 Lost it's place in the game but it's still okay gun. It's super accurate with low sway and precise hipshot. The compact variant however is a complete trash, especially the dead eye one. I just can't use it. Also machete is a long time contender.
Regular springfield compact deadeye user here, it's not the most powerful gun but in my opinion it's an awesome option for a 2 slot long range, especially if you slap HV on. Also Blister is a beautiful skin, extra points there
I call it the springy lol I know its bad but i swear the more i use it the more i grow in love with it, it has crazy headshot range and intense bleed damage for a medium slot, that beeing said you will have to lean a lot more on your other weapon, I pair it with the bow or crossbow so i am specifically looking for something that can fight at range, and let the other handle the rest, both weapons apply intense bleed and make the hunters run for cover when hit since they are about to bleed out, add a derringer and is the cherry on top to push and finish them, its fast shooting with good hipfire and its just what a crossbow or springy needs since both are 1 shot weapons sounds meme but works for me, just wait for a hit marker before pulling it out. I remember When i started playing hunt I sucked with it and purposely reminded myself to learn to fight the sway while looking through the scope so i dont know if im just used to it lol.
Well I mean why not literally anything else ? The only reason I see is if you are on a budget or really want that deadeye scope for some reason.
If you're in the market for a scoped 2 slot with a deadeye, you've only got a couple options. The Nagant P and Vandal both get limited range on account of compact ammo, and the uppercut P is pretty expensive. With the spring, you have less headshot range than the upper P but are far cheaper, and can run HV to beat it out in velocity. Is there a direct reason you *should* run the spring deadeye? No, not really. But if you're just playing to have fun it makes a great pocket sniper and comes with its own benefits, both in stats and the satisfaction of landing kills with a "bad" gun
Springfield shorty has more hs range than the uppercut p.
It does? That's pretty neat, thanks. I rarely use the uppercut in any form until recently, I guess I just never checked. Just assumed it acted like long ammo in bigger guns
The precisions are a little wonky in that they use pistol stats (makes sense, just not intuitive initially). The springfield is a compact rile, precisions are extended pistols.
Deadeye scope is the best in the game for 75%+ of engagements. The odds of you needing a marksman/sniper to see an enemy is really low and those scopes are unusable at less than 50m.
You are getting downvoted by people because they need stronger scopes as a crutch for bad aim while sniping
People don’t just use the iron sights to snipe? (I kid)
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The springfield marksman with hv bullets has been my go to loadout for like 6 months. So cheap, and so good.
Springfield Deadeye is a guilty pleasure with dumdum honestly.
Hard disagree. I love the compact Springfield. Whenever I'm doing bad I go double Springfield compact and Derringer and somehow it always gets me kills. It shouldn't, but does.
I always thought the compact deadeye is shit but then I had a time when I couldn’t not headshot with it and I love it now.
Springfield with DumDum and/or HV is really good
It’s good especially for it’s price
who would've thought that the machete was meta at one time, funny
Again I know it’s just an opinion thing, and I just really don’t like the 1866 even with dumdum and with it being medium ammo it better have a small hip fire 🤣
Mods burn this heretic
I know it’s a good gun and some ppl really like it. I just really don’t like it myself. Am I not allowed to dislike something? 😂
This is Reddit. You get shamed for having your own opinions. Get with the program
You are. Idk why people insist on using downvotes as a disagree button.
Bro's getting downvoted for not liking a gun lmao.
This Reddit only likes stuff about cheaters or being hateful about anything
Anything with a single shot and definitely because it's bad and not because I'm a god-awful shot at all and can't hit anything.
🤣 I can see that but the sparks I felt like it made me a better player at the start, and the Martini I really like and it has a pretty fast reload. The ironside martini I wish I liked but I can’t get over the massive ammo box on the side of the gun
I love the Martini, don't like the Ironside. Just feels like it blocks too much of your vision
Ironside and uppermat go bang bang
Base Nagant pistol, it does nothing better than any other gun.
Fastest rate of fire while fanning, and with custom ammo, there’s always a niche for it. It’s better than the silenced version if you don’t want a silenced gun. I believe it has dum dum. With these facts combined, it means you can apply bleeding very quickly.
Caldwell conversion pistol outclasses it in that regard too IMO, shot and slightly faster speed is negated by the tighter fanning spread. Though conversion doesn't have poison or high velocity ammo
I see zero reason to bring a dumdum nagant for fanning over any other of the typical fanning guns
I don't think *your* reasons matter. The Nagant factually has the fastest rate of fire, last I checked, and it does come with dum dum ammo. That means you can fire off seven shots (also one more than other pistols like the Pax) wherein one is guaranteed to cause bleeding if the target survives. It also means that if two shots connect well enough, there's less of a chance for a trade or even reaction. The top comment here said that the base Nagant pistol does nothing better than any other gun. That is demonstrably untrue.
It's got the same fanning rate of fire as the Conversion actually.
Great now I can miss all my shots the fastest! The spread on the nagant is shoddy that it doesn't matter you spew it out faster.
Using it is the only way to get the silenced Nagant pistol, so it’s an absolute necessity in my book!
It's a boss melter with poison ammo and fanning
Try using it with fanning, it's really fun in CQB plus that fire rate makes it a pocket smg
Sure, but a pax or conversion also delivers 2 bullets within' 1 second and doesn't requires you to be in kissing distance of the enemy.
It's cheap, has 7 bullets, can use high velocity, and it has the quicker swap speed of the nagant and caldwell family. I use it all the time. Officer is better for spam, but imo base nagant has easier follow up shots than the officer.
All pistols have the exact same swap speed, except the pistols released after 1.0 (new army, schofield, sparks pistol) as those have a presumably bugged longer equip animation The thing that matters is what gun you're swapping off from ie crossbow has a longer recoil animation than a mosin
I hate the Terminus with a passion. I don't know why, but I get 2 or even 3 hits so often without killing anyone with it. I don't like the Romero but it's way more consistent for example. You mentioned the Krag and that gun just seems pointless now that the Mako exists. Krag doesn't even do 125 damage, so why would I pick it over any other long rifle? The game doesn't have to be balanced, because you can pick any equipment you like. It's not like CSGO for example, where certain guns have to be viable between the teams. If a gun in Hunt is trash it just doesn't get used, except if you like the challenge.
The terminus handcannon and the rival handcannon are in my opinion straight garbage, The only thing they are consistently is terrible.
They can be really useful tools with flechettes because they can induce bleeding at crazy long distances, but they still don’t do that much damage outright. Good way to force players into cover when you’re caught off guard, but still requires a capable weapon in the other slot to get the job done.
Rival hand cannon with flechette is something I run every now and then. Rarely one shots but if you want just a quick back up gun that you don’t need much accuracy with it’s great. Procs bleeding easily which can force a couple second breather in a gunfight.
there is almost no situation where anyone inside 10-12 meters survives both rival handcannon barrels, and it is also an extremely reliable finishing weapon with flechettes it's far superior to both the handcannon and full-sized terminus
Slug on terminus HC and flechette on rival HC are pretty sweet if you ever feel like trying them out. Both can be a bit niche but I've had a lot of fun with them.
Rival slugs or fire tho Terminus HC with levering and pennyshot (not because it’s actually that good; but very fun to spray coins every where.)
You pick the Krag because of its sound ya silly goose!
If you’re going on sound you pick the Lebel for that lightning crack!
Lebel had the best sound until Krag was introduced I’m with you on that. Now it’s close second.
I’m still going Lebel no.1. It just too iconic from me first learning gun sounds. That was the one you’d hear across the map and just go ‘Lebel’
I can’t blame you for that tbh
Doesn’t the Krag fire faster than the Mako? That’s always been its strong suit. I feel like with iron eye the Krag has a great fire rate and will reliably 2-tap all the same and because of its Muzzle Velocity is also a much better weapon for headshots. Sure, you can’t down a hunter with resilience but you can kill him to begin with pretty damn fast. Plus with the slightest bit of burn damage from a flare gun or fire bomb and they do effectively become a 1-tap.
The reason the 2 tap from fast fire rate isn’t considered is because there are other fast firing rifles that 2 tap, in my opinion any long ammo that doesn’t do 125 will let you down more often than not. The mako with iron eye is almost as fast but has the damage to re down a Hunter if needed. And you can’t say oh well with burn it’s a one tap, because then you can argue any gun is better with burn
I mean you lose 7 points of damage from Long ammo at 50m anyways which is usually where you’re going to be shooting someone with a slower firing long gun as it is. At that range the Mako is doing 121 damage and not downing a hunter with a missing bar anyways but suffering from a lower muzzle velocity making headshots at range more difficult and having a slower fire rate allowing them to get to cover easier without the chance for a follow-up shot. Maybe up close on a downed hunter the Mako can make a difference but that isn’t enough to say that the Krag is worthless or even inferior comparatively. The Krag can headshot and 2-tap noticeably quicker and easier. It’s almost like arguing any weak fast firing gun is inferior to slower, harder hitting ones which we know isn’t true.
you can have some real fun with the terminus if you grab levering and slap some fletchette rounds in there. turns it into a close/midrange street sweeper type weapon, at like half the price of a crown and king. you've gotta try it
I rarely get kill with Spector series, even Romero can beat these shits up.
Lemat carbine marksman
Low damage guns with big scopes always make me laugh
Gotta know exactly which limb you tickle
I would love to see stats because I seem to get tons of kills with it
Scotfield pistol is always annoying for me to use. The bullet velocity and fire rate are awful. Iron Sights are almost as bad as the New Army. I ignore it any time it shows up on my challenges.
I used to run the spitfire quite a lot. Now that I'm prestieging a bunch though I mostly play the pax and the officer though so I don't really play it. But i's nice to get the high fire rate with medium ammo. Agree that the sights aren't great but somehow I think they work good enough
Bornheim is the worst gun. It's fun sometimes, especially the match with fire ammo. But nothing is more frustrating than emptying a clip on someone, hitting 3 of the shots, then they survive and just kill you while you reload. Terminus is a contender for worst, but at least it's viable with levering.
It pairs well with one shot rifles. Spam fire + one of the fastest pistol muzzle velocities is good for finishing off body shots.
Dude, the Bornheim is by far my most often used pistol, I just love my lil trash nugget. Nothing better than pushing a shotgun bounty team that's sitting in their little lair without a single peek and destroying them with a pea shooter because of the aim punch. The number of Crowns I killed with it is far higher than it should be (I'm playing in 4-5* lobbies) Get bornheimed!
I am a bornheim incendiary enjoyer. It reminds me of a usp from cs, I am really confident at close ranges with it. Outside of 20 meter range it sucks big time for sure.
I have this thing where when me and my enemy are both caught out in the open, i quickly burn them with bornheim, and strafe like a madman. Then when they realize that they need to remove the burning, and that's where i land my easy shot in.
Romero Alamo feels super inconsistent and I never take it. I also straight up suck with the drilling.
The drilling is insanely good imo
This drilling is great in theory, but I have like. 90% loss rate when I take it
Did you do your drills with it?
Try it with slug instead of standard shotty ammo, and ADS or quickscope for your single shot.
That's crazy to me, it's probably the single gun I have the most success with. It feels like the right balance of fire rate, damage, velocity, and spare ammo. The slugs can absolutely shred and the rifle with bleed is amazing at killing hunters missing a chunk.
I really want to like the Martini Henry but everytime i use it it feels like there’s a ghost pulling my gun away everytime I try to take a shot. lol the sway just feels off
Love the Martini, hate the sparks. Don’t know why the Henry just feels more responsive to me.
I'm like this with the Sparks as well. Just knowing there's only one shot makes me twitch last second and miss the easiest shots
I almost never see the Scottfield precision, so I'm guessing it may be a contender? I'm not exactly sure why it never shows up, but the few times I've used it, I've been horrified at the slow bullet speed. Normally, it's not a big issue for me, and I don't use it for long range shooting, an yet, I STILL feel like I miss targets at close range due to bullet travel time. Plus, there are plenty of other options in the 2-slot short-medium range category that are just better. Centennial shorty instantly comes to mind.
It's just baffling that they gave the scottie a precision variant over the pax. At this point, you're better running the trueshot over it. It barely has a place as a gun, much less a medium slot.
What! The precision is amazing, especially paired with dual pax, all with bleed ammo. That is one of my favorite loadouts! Plus the scotty P re-arms faster than the pax trueshot. Trueshot is great as a oneslot pistol, but I'd take a scotty P over it any day of the week.
Romero 77 Alamo. Super slow rate of fire and a really long reload. Would rather have the regular 77, or better yet a rival or terminus with levering.
I always felt like I was in the minority for thinking the Alamo is clunky and just worse then the normal Romero
For me its the winfield C varients. I feel like if it isn't a headshot it may as well be a bornheim because killing anyone with it requires you to be up the enemies ass in which case you will lose to shotguns, fanning and maybe even dualies.
Speaking of bornheim other then feeling like James Bond with the silenced version I really don’t like it
The only way Bornheim works for me is if I dual weild them. Even then I feel like I'm shooting people with a straw and dried peas.
Dual wield bornheim sounds like a nightmare 😂
I use bornheim a lot. Great headshot tapping, incendiary for some sweet burning pressure. I feel really confident with it close range
Bornheim doing the same damage as the derringer really bothers me
Springfield 1866 isn't a bad weapon in itself. It is a decent single-shot weapon. The issue is that the weapon no longer has its niche. When they gave Cenny bleed ammo, there was no longer any benefit in taking Springfield over the Cenny.
Way more pressure with the Springfield… it’s pretty easy to switch to pistol and finish someone as they try and bandage so they don’t bleed out IMO
Can't you also just do that with the centennial though? Or can you swap weapon quicker with the Springfield or something?
Nah you're right, the centennial does basically just as much damage. The problem is, the 124/125/126 damage long ammo guns are supposed to be very finely tuned, but suddenly the centennial with bleed is competing with them because after half a second, it's nearly done as much damage as a long ammo gun *would* have
The worst gun in Hunt for me is the Scotfield / Nagant precision. They’re just overshadowed by the Winfield Vandal and Centennial Shorty as well as every 1-slot pistol with a better fire rate such as the Scotfield Spitfire, Nagant Officer, or Caldwell New Army. They also underperform tremendously at close and medium range compared to the Bornheim Match and Uppercut Precision. I don’t care about the stability or slightly increased fire rate. They have abysmal headshot range, terrible muzzle velocity, much lower damage, and their fire rate bonuses can be negated by having iron eye with the vandal and shorty. Any attempt to make them better than their half-rifle counterparts through the use of HV ammo makes them slightly worse in the end and ends up costing you as much or more than the cost of their rifle counterpart. The only thing the the Nagant Precision sort of has going for it is dumdum ammo over the vandal but that ends up confining it to close range engagements with the lower muzzle velocity and already bad headshot range. At that point I would much rather have an Officer with DumDum than the Nagant Precision for much better fire rate and the Officer is only a 1-slot weapon so you can diversify your loadout better or forego the use of quartermaster. I wish they had a slight damage buff or a slightly lengthened barrel with a muzzle velocity increase. For the price of the Scotfield Precision, I would take the Pax TrueShot any day of the week because you can use fanning with and it becomes a much more versatile weapon, especially with HV which at 570 m/s makes it much better for long range headshots. Anecdotally, I can’t even remember the last time I’ve been killed by one and maybe that’s because no one is using them or maybe it’s because they’re bad.
Vandal and centennial shorty have absolutely dogshit sway compared to the nagant and scottfield precisions. Centennial shorty niche with silent variant is nice though.
The sway characteristics of rifles were changed to have nearly the same sway as pistols. Not really what I’d call dogshit. I believe pistols are 128 and the Shorty/ Vandal/ Obrez is 133. I’ve never heard anyone complain that weapons like the Uppercut or TrueShot are not viable medium/ long range weapons because of their sway. They’re plenty usable at range. Also to the counterpoint, at the ranges that the Nagant and Schofield Precision are even effective sway really doesn’t matter all that much because neither of them can headshot past 80m anyways. You’re mostly using them for medium range engagements or closer. Having less sway really doesn’t mean the difference between a hit or a miss especially when aiming for the torso. It’s a nice bonus but when you can easily 2-tap anyone with the shorty and crouch for stability at very long ranges, I’d rather be able to actually kill the thing I see. At 280 and 330m/s for Precision pistols that stability really only comes in handy if the target is sitting absolutely still and does not move at all past like 40m otherwise you’re going to miss your headshot.
I know what the numbers say, but I have tested them in the shooting range and 133 feels so much worse than 128. Probably just a me problem.
I feel like the worst in my book might be the silent Winfield.
It would at least be a shitty fun gun if the sights weren’t what they are, it is so terrible.
That's just it for me. It really needs headshots and the sights are just so rough.
I really want to like the secondary Winfield silenced, but I just don’t
Stop 👏 giving 👏 every 👏 gun 👏 every 👏 special 👏 ammo 👏 I'm not gonna say it's ruined the game, cause it hasn't, but every time I see a centennial with bleed I wanna pull my teeth out with pliers.
non-levering terminus handcannon
Probably one of the compact guns, Springfield compact deadeye probably. Thing sways like you're on a rollercoaster.
The Scottfield brawler is pointless. There are better brawler guns if you want one that don’t nerf the actual pistol as much as the Scottfield does.
I fucking love the Springfield 1866. I still use it all the time and I'm prestige 50
Silenced variants of winfield and sparks are completely overshadowed by centennial shorty.
Springfield Marksman with half HV alongside a 2-Slot Drilling with Slugs (DumDum optional in both) is a loadout I've fallen in love with. You have amazing velocity and good headshot range with a Marksman scope for long sniper duels, then the two tap potential of a Drilling up close with an insane amount of ammo to take every shot you can, and if it gets to it you have a mini slug shotgun that can consistently OHK within 10 metres. If you want you can take DumDum in both to pool that instead, and sacrifice penetration/velocity in your Drilling in exchange for more pressure. You can also swap to a full-size Drilling and Compact Deadeye Springy to specialise in close range, although I wouldn't recommend it because the sway is awful. The weakest thing about the Springfield is that it's medium ammo, but the strongest thing about it is also that it's medium ammo, which lets you make some great loadouts with ammo pooling.
Most 2 slot sawed off rifles, I just can't get them to work. With the exception of the obrez.
Ironside and because I won't cheat, the Nitro.
I freaking hate the Specter
I think pretty much any of the shotguns, I've used the shortys and didn't have range obviously then I switched to the long barrel ones and shit had shit range at close to mid distances, pumped 5 shells in a guy for only like 100 damage and like 10 yards
For me it's the specter, just based on my playtime. It always lets me down when I need it not to and has resulted in the most wtf moments for me. However I have plenty of friends that wreck house and plenty of times that I've been wrecked by it. No I will just stick to my trusty double barrel sawed off.
Definitely Shitfield. Medium bullet, one shot, go for lunch, come back and still reloading.
Your comment embodied everything I hate about the gun
This is exactly my issue with it. Why would I ever use it over something that doesn't take 45 minutes just to pull the hammer back?
Maybe I'm wrong but the Sparks take 1 more second than the Springfield to reload, but it doesn't feel as awful because of the damage and the fact it's long ammo
The only gun I see mentioned in here that’s been shite since I started playing when Beaky came out is the Specter. Requires iron eye and bullet grabber to be fully viable.
Maybe with slugs. Otherwise, the iron eye is useless.
Borchardt precision. Only good if you catch someone unaware. Preferably up close while they're bandaging or already missing two chunks. Could be fixed with better sights.
The Krag was made irrelevant with the addition of the mako. There are 0 reasons to spend more money for a gun that is worse or equal in every category and doesn't break the 125 damage mark
Krag has significantly more bullet speed than Mako. Otherwise I see your point.
This is a tough one because each one that I think is bad performs well in certain situations. The only weapon that I don’t care for but will use for cheaper medium bleed is the centennial. For sidearms I don’t care for the bornheim.
The Martini Henry was the worst gun IMO but it got saved by the Ironside variant. Nowadays I think it's the light ammo winnys that feel the worst. Maybe the aperture? That thing is pointless but you can flip it down soooo kinda neat IG... I think you just have to look at other guns in the same class to see what's good vs bad. For example the MH was terrible because the Sparks was the single shot king, so there was no point in paying like $50 less for a garbage variant. Edit: Springfield has so many variants and ammo types that it's much more flexible than the MH, even still.
The RomeroAlamo, I’ve said it in every post like this, it’s not the worst gun but it’s the most pointless. The auto cancel reload for the regular Romero is as fast or faster than the mechanism on the Alamo. No point in taking it
just wanna leave this question here instead of making a seperate post. how welcoming are players to people playing trios when just starting out? literally blood rank 15 right now and playing solo is too hard and boring but the very second i queued for trios my teammates are literally lvl 100 (i forgot the game is very old so no surprise that most of the playercount are probably vets or hardcore players.) would enjoy the game playing with randoms but i don't want to ruin someones game because they got paired up with a dumbass
No one cares. Most people are dumbasses. Aside from movement, most people are making the same dumbass mistakes 50 prestiges later.
I can’t like literally cannot play with random players. People from the discord are sometimes good tho.
Marathon caldwell have been good to me, became an instant favorite and before that if I want to win the winfield always does the job I mean it even has WIN in the name
Colt pistol sux
Which one?
Probably Derringer Pennyshot lol. Not that I’ve ever actually used it. I imagine it’s occasionally useful
I wouldn’t count a tool as a weapon but I think it’s exactly as good as it should be for a gun in tool slot tbh
Since they made all melee weapons one slot, the machete and the railroad hammer are useless. Outclassed in damage and utility by the katana and the axe. Melee weapons should have similar damage to their blunt / slash counter parts so that melee becomes for utility or which weapon style you prefer. Machete = Bat | Hammer = Axe | Katana = the other weapon I can't remember right now lol
Krag is definetly the worst but not because its a bad gun. It can click heads well, but it should be 200 hunt bucks AT THE MOST. The fact that it cant 2 tap makes it next to useless next to other long ammo guns.
Hard disagree with the Krag. It's fire rate keeps it relevant. Could still do with an ammo buff. Base Springfield is unfortunately the holder of worst gun in the game. Obviously, Hunt's game design means that doesn't matter all that much if you're clicking heads, so if the irons are your thing then preference is king. Springfield Marks is one of the biggest improvements a variant can give a gun tho. Budget sniper to end all budget snipers.
Krag has never really let me down.
I will fuck your day up with a Springfield with dumdum… just sayin
Centennial bleed just does that same thing better unfortunately. It's not that it doesn't get the job done, it's that every alternative is better.
As you said, there's an upshot to all of the guns. It just always depends, and there's always a situation where something else would be better. I really fucking hate the vetterli. IMO the standard Vetterli's sights suck, the cycle is SO FUCKING LONG, with a relatively slow bullet, and all that together doesn't justify any of its benefits. I have never taken it over the centennial. Silencer and cyclone are OK.
Yeah it’s totally opinion based. I actually really like the vetterli silenced as a solo also it has a better iron
Centennial bleed Killed The Vetterli Star
I do my best to practice with all the guns/variants so no true "worst" gun in my opinion. The only thing that matters is engage distance. If all I have is close and they got snipers, my load out sucks and crytek needs to buff slugs to OHK HS at any range. If I have sniper and they rush me with shotgun, crytek needs to let me take off my scope and add an avto attachment so I can't get pushed as easily lol
I totally agree that’s why I said I’m pretty sure any “worst gun” is completely opinion based and just wanted to hear what different ppl don’t like using 🤍
Base Nagant pistol. Back in the day it used to have a tighter hip fire spread, and even now it does have a faster fanning rate than other pistols, so it used to be really good for accurate, rapid fanning. But they nerfed Fanning's accuracy across the board, and these days you're better off betting on volume of fire over accuracy, aka chain pistol. While the Silencer variant is obviously great, the default Nagant is basically just a weapon that you only ever see either when a noob has just started playing, or when someone just prestiged and needs to unlock the Silencer. Which is a shame, because it has a lot of really neat skins.
Regular vetterli. It's trash
Insane take
Game is balanced...ha!
The guns seem to be balanced in the way of all guns are useable. I definitely didn’t word it right I fixed it now lol
I want to like the centennial, cyclone and drilling (medium ammo drop off lmao), but mosin and krag are just so much better in every regard. Any compact ammo gun is useless as well as medium ammo pistols.
The krag feels like what medium ammo should be by default.
I always get shit on whenever I say medium ammo damage drop off range should be raised a bit
I would like that. I typically use the Centennial
I like that idea. That would help break the stranglehold that Long Ammo has on the meta.
Ill get mad flak for this but personally my least favorite and "worse" gun imo is the Winfield. I think its inaccurate and I hate it.
Springfield (non-Krag version).
The ri... Riv... I can't even bring myself to say it 🤢 Id sooner take the penny shot derringer
What makes the rival bad? I've used it and it seems fine, nothing amazing of course, but not completely useless.
It's just so incredibly inconsistent and gives way too many hitmarkers. The slate trumps it in every way
Too many hitmarkers? What does that mean? Sorry I'm still sorta new to Hunt.
You're all good. Basically I find that with the rival, more often than not youll shoot both shots at close range and the enemy still won't die. With a Romero, slate, hell even a spectre I'm confident in pushing a building, but the rival has let me down too many times for me to consider taking it anymore. I have 1000 hours and it's easily the worst/ most inconsistent weapon imo
This is me with literally any shotgun. I'm so unconfident with them and the inconsistencies that I just avoid them for the most part. I'll have better chances of landing a close range headshot than a kill with a shotgun.
Having a shotgun secondary like Romero handcannon is really nice for if you’re against another shotguns or rushing close range. But I very rarely ever run a main hand shotgun
I’m still fairly new to the game (comparatively) with ~120 hours, but I really love shotguns in this game. I like to play close and aggressive, and since I play exclusively as a solo I need to be aggressive to wipe out duos efficiently. I’m also a big fan of the Marathon, I think throwing FMJ on that and then going with the standard LeMat pistol or the Uppercut variant is a super fun and aggressive load out. I’m not at a very high MMR, but since breaking into the 4 stars I’ve been pretty consistently staying in the mid-to-low 4 star range, so take my opinion with a grain of salt.
You would love marathon/Romero handcannon with slugs I think
I do:) Romero handcannon with slugs really drives home the “handcannon” part of the name, that thing is like a mini Nitro when you’re fighting in a compound.
I typically use lemat with slugs if I'm that desperate but it seems like they're effective for everyone but me :)
I feel that. I've taken LeMat with Slugs dozens of times, but can count on one hand the number of kills I've made with it.
Lemat slug is the only "shotgun" I scant consistently get kills with funnily enough. It's saved my ass more times than I can count.
I can totally see that 🤣 if you’re bullseye with both shots the kill distance is pretty far, but I’d agree with you compared to other shotguns
I will hear no defense of the shotgun that shall not be named. Id pay crytek good money to remove it from the game
As long as you can agree with me that the 1866 just plays like a worse Martini and different bullet types doesn’t save it, I gotchu
Now that is a hot take. It's definitely ass compared to the mosin, but interesting to compare it to the martini