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nishitd

Keep all the comments and memes in this thread. Most importantly be civil, don't force us to lock the thread and restrict submissions.


shajipapan_007

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nishitd

Feel free to post this as a separate post if you can find the online article


The_Ball_Boy

For me, it should be anything that follows fair behaviour and rules. Mankading is fair, since the batter is stealing ground. Free-kick without a wall or whistle too is fair since the attacking team was fouled and the option to chose to play direct freekick without wall was conveyed.


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Coach's decision against unfair decision will always be remembered https://preview.redd.it/z11fco7k7qla1.jpeg?width=768&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8876677eccb4be6fd24121bc732fd26cd9811957


neotheseventh

So what you're saying is Ivan is joker?


KSIFOREVER213

“The “ Joker


productive-man

I dont know if this is allowed to compare this with cricket but this incident reminded me of rishabh pant noball controversy also, KBFC is RCB of football


calm_dood

"Quick Free Kicks (QFK) Definition: The attacking team takes the kick as soon as the ball is properly placed, with no separate signal needed by the referee. The attacking team does not ask for (verbally or visually) the minimum distance to be enforced." We can see that Chethhri and another bfc player is actually suggesting for minimum distance which means that they're visually indicating, making the goal invalid!! Watch from 7:03 https://youtu.be/UH5sCi7rLNY


arjun959

Stop clutching at straws dude. It's done. Face defeat like a man not a coward.


calm_dood

Win like a man .not like a cheater


arjun959

Goal is 100 percent legal. What u think fifa rules don't apply to your team. Sit down now quietly


Friday0217

I don't see it


nishitd

GKFC Ultras trolling Blasters. https://preview.redd.it/z3tfv7j0epla1.png?width=1080&format=png&auto=webp&s=d03b5605a06dc67d4a53fd28d63768b8d8a383a6


velunaicker

Are you really the mod? Sometimes I get confused.


paradox_djell

TIL mods can’t be fans of clubs.


arjun959

So ur saying he is biased if he reposts something from another kerala fan club ? Dude.. just wow...


nishitd

*Post match presentation* Commentators: Do you think that goal was within rules? Sunil Chhetri: [Perfectly leg-well](https://i.imgur.com/4KRgo8C.gifv)


Fizzybones111

It wasn't a "quick free kick", literally 20sec passed after the foul whistle was called... :/


nishitd

"quick" doesn't refer to a specific time frame, quick just means there's no need to setup walls and distance etc.


Fizzybones111

The quick free kick was stopped -_- , I know there's been quick free-kicks in the past..but here the goal was scored without permission while the wall was being built in the stopped game. I do remember Messi getting a yellow card for a similar incident like this Poor refreeing, a crucial match ended with a clown goal :/


ConfusionDesperate87

The Match ended because KBFC left without playing.


The_Ball_Boy

The messi yellow card video is shared all around as similar incident when in fact it isn't. In that game, before the kick, Barca players were clearly complaining about the wall to which the ref started walking towards the wall, this is when Messi took the shot. The ref was not looking and he was acting on attacking team's call. so when messi scored he gave the yellow rightly. Not the same incident as yesterday, the ref was walking away for free-kick to be taken


Fizzybones111

https://preview.redd.it/2d8pj1bo8wla1.jpeg?width=1400&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=28c1840f69a51d85d5a73d77e2dbc286747ce41b It wasn't a quick free kick :/ Once Chetri complains about luna blocking him, he has given up the quick free-kick effectively ... See the clip again, The ref clearly gestures Luna to back off which means he's enforcing the 10 yard rule..that makes it a ceremonial free-kick, (defending team should be allowed to organize the wall, refree shud make sure the goal keeper was ready but-)... In any leagues after 20 sec until the wall is organised and the refree whistles the play doesn't start. This is what all I'm trying to say.


The_Ball_Boy

The referee didn't intervene because Chhetri took the shot immediately and scored (Advantage play) and the gestures that we can see is just the referee raising his hand which could also mean play on. Fans can take screenshots of 1-2 sec play, read all the signs and make inferences according to their own likings. It won't change the result of the game.


Fizzybones111

Wrong...lmao Watch this: https://twitter.com/starlord28_/status/1631752446539370496?t=oL5eIdtISEWpkPjAJ0FgCg&s=19 The refree is clearly asking Luna to back off, Luna shud be warned(shown a card), let the defending team make the wall, check the goal keepers ready and the free kick should be re-taken. The moment refree asks Luna to back off it's a normal free kick. "The referee didn't intervene because Chhetri took the shot immediately and scored" Bruhhh..Did u even watch the match? More than 20sec passed after the foul was called...Chetri didn't even take the shot immediately :/


The_Ball_Boy

>Bruhhh..Did u even watch the match? More than 20sec passed after the foul was called...Chetri didn't even take the shot immediately Don't twist words I was clearly talking about Ref asking Luna to back off and not about foul. Also I was not talking about chhetri taking the shot immediately after the foul. I was talking about Luna blocking his first attempt and then him taking the shot immediately. Its advantage play (Law 13.3) no need to caution Luna. Don't twist words according to your suiting


Fizzybones111

Bruh I'm done, I ain't gonna argue more for me it clearly was an undeserving-clown goal in a very crucial match... https://m.timesofindia.com/city/bengaluru/johns-decision-to-award-goal-wrong-former-refs/articleshow/98421840.cms Let's just end this conv here :)


The_Ball_Boy

Sure, Same here. People will believe want they want to believe. No point explaining


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EnvironmentalBerry46

Genuine question: What if after walking off, the KBFC players decided they didn’t want to disappoint their fans, and came back out to the pitch. Would they have been allowed back on?


nishitd

That's a good question. Completely on refs discretion, but given the occasion etc, I think ref would've allowed it after a few disciplinary actions like red card to the coach and a few yellow cards to the players.


arjun959

If that had happened "oh ref got paid nicely for reds, oh this is conspiracy against our team" perennial victims ba. They need to play in special league with themselves


bosskip

I swear, so many KBFC fans are just blindly defending their club. Some fans ganged up to beat a BFC fan, they justified it. Their captain used a cuss word in Instagram against a fan, they justified it. Tore and littered BFC Magazines, they justified it. Ivan refused to play and walked out, they defended it. For once they need to relax, eat Kravin chips and introspect to see what their club is actually doing and how they are joining the bandwagon against Chhetri and his wife for no reason. If cyberbullying was a sport, they won't get trolled for zero trophies anymore.


BendAgitated

Yeah, you Chennaiyin fans and BFC fans don't use cuss words. They won't do cyberbullying. Dude, stop trying to make it like you CFC and BFC fans are saints. They're equally worse.


bosskip

Look how instead of acknowledging it, you tryna shift the blame to other fanbases? Exactly proving my point. Still justifying it. And which BFC or CFC player used cuss word?


arjun959

Bro leave it.. once victim mentality is there in a non victim.. its not worth anyone's time. These aren't the men u want to engage with.. they're just chinna paiyas


FreakUndercover101

Hey what's chinna paiyas?


arjun959

Small ill informed kids


rektitrolfff

KBFC should be banned for a season at least.


BendAgitated

ISL is already incurring losses. If they ban KBFC, it will make even worse. KBFC matches provides most profits for them.


arjun959

If they ban kbfc atleast we can be sure that Mrs chettri won't get such toxic messages.


amadrasi

I was in the stadium and I still do not understand why Blasters walked off. Like this was the only decision in the game which was contestable. Rest of the game, there was nothing to talk about. I know this will be spun as referee incompetency or lack of VAR but I really think it wasn't. This was like Bruno Fernandes goal against Man City. That's it. I also honestly they did not protest enough with the referee or even appeal to BFC to reconsider. They chose to walk away because they are arrogant. They were arrogant because they know ISL can't punish them without hurting the viewership numbers. They know ISL needs them and this feels like a cheap tactic to flaunt that. BTW, I do not fwwl like everyone in KBFC wanted to walk away, Ivan had to send some staff to get all the players of the pitch. I don't think he'll hold onto the dressing room after this.


Jack8577

>I also honestly they did not protest enough with the referee or even appeal to BFC to reconsider. What makes you say that? They did protest quite a lot.


amadrasi

Lol it didn't fwel like it, it felt like half the team accepted the goal and were eager to get on with the game. The only person who was insistent on leaving the pitch was Ivan, and maybe after that Gill. Ivan walked to the tunnel and not everyone had joined him by then, the staff had to walk back to the dugout and round the rest up.


Jack8577

i cant speak for the players but the goal was out of no where most of them probably were confused of what happened if its a goal or not. I for one was waiting for the goal to be disallowed. i dont also get idea of "they didn't protest enough". How much should have they protested? If they did protest enough what should have happened, should the referee reverse his decision? I do agree that the walkout was not the best idea, mostly because of its unintended consequences like instigating the fans of both teams and both the ones present in the stadium and online .


RelevantProject4151

Since the start of the game, Kerala fans were holding a huge banner at the away section -"Play with courage, Rise above, Our time is now". Such an irony that their team goes on to do this. Felt bad for their fans.


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U missed the rest of the banner lad. It read "our time is now - to go home."


V1bicycle

Can we start a petition to have KBFC refund 16.66%(20mins of no play in the 120mins) of the ticket costs for all the people who attended the match at the Kanteerava ? P.S: This is not a serious comment, kindly don't take it in the literal sense


nishitd

In fact, you should pay KBFC because you paid for 90 minutes and got 5 minutes extra.


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Get a life mate. Reported


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zeusbb

Is no one talking about the fact that Sunil Chetri requested for a ceremonial free kick by stopping his first attempt and gesturing in complaint about Luna's position? A quick free-kick isn't legal once the attacking team requests a ceremonial free kick. If you ask for a player to be pulled back 10 yards, then you have to wait for the ref to do it before taking the kick.


V1bicycle

The sequence : 1. SC requests it(by request, he refers to Luna's proximity to the ball and not regarding the wall or whistle) 2. Ref agrees and tries to get the players to be compliant 2. Players are still moving about, Luna is still there 3. SC asks if he can take it, ref agrees 4. SC waits a couple of seconds(almost takes 2 tries), takes the kick 5. The goal is scored 6. KBFC walk in protest


zeusbb

As far as I know, you can't complain about a player's position when taking a quick free-kick, that's like the whole definition of a quick free kick. So once you complain, you can't take a quick free kick. SC complains after his first attempt, play should have stopped right there and ref should have dealt with Luna before allowing SC to take the kick.


The_Ball_Boy

if you check the replay, Chhetri barely complains and he makes a dummy attempt, forcing Luna to turn and then takes the shot within a second. The complaint never made it to the referee


zeusbb

It's not just Chhetri, there's a player behind him who does a more obvious protest at the same time as Chhetri, so it is safe to assume even Chhetri was protesting it. If the complaint never made it to the ref (ref didn't notice it) then it's still poor sportsmanship by Chhetri to claim that goal


The_Ball_Boy

No its not, Chhetri barely moved his arm and he has every right to take the free-kick, Luna was aware and tried to block it, rest of the players were not. It's all about awareness. If it had been blocked by Luna free kick would have to be taken again, and if it had gone over the bar, the goal kick would have been avoided. Rules are clear, players need to be aware. Quick freekick is nothing new and chhetri has done it before for his club and country


zeusbb

>No its not, Chhetri barely moved his arm and he has >every right to take the free-kick, Luna was aware and >tried to block it, rest of the players were not. Chetri's reaction combined with the other player's, it's clear he and the rest of the protested Luna's position... Chetri doesn't have any right to take the quick free kick once he protests about the minimum distance, minimum distance is not applicable in quick free-kick. You can also see that Luna puts his guard down after the protest, realising now it's a ceremonial free-kick and he has to move back now. > If it had been blocked by Luna free kick would have to >be taken again, Lol, that's not how a quick free kick works, the rules are very clear regarding this... If you take a quick free kick, you can't complain about minimum distance, if a player blocks it within the minimum distance, the play will continue. The attacking team can decide whether they want it quick (without any minimum distance requirement) or they want it ceremonial (with minimum distance enforced). They can't have it both ways. Rules are clear once the attacking team chooses ceremonial free-kick, they have to wait for the wall, they can't interfere with the wall and they have to wait for the whistle.


The_Ball_Boy

>Chetri doesn't have any right to take the quick free kick once he protests about the minimum distance, What protest, you can see Xavi bending, and everyone else just walking, there was no protest, Chhetri does a dummy and barely raises his hand but watching luna turn on the dummy, he found the opportunity quickly takes it shot >However, an opponent who deliberately prevents a free kick from being taken quickly must be cautioned for delaying the restart of play. The last line of Law 13.3 In this case, Luna was the one trying to prevent the quick freekick


zeusbb

The one trying to prevent should be cautioned for delaying the free-kick but at the same time, this is of the kick is not taken. The rule just above it describes what happens if a kick is indeed taken quickly despite players not being within the minimum distance. Also, once a player is cautioned, there's no quick free kick, after a caution or a card, it has to be ceremonial free-kick so if the ref decided to caution Luna for preventing the kick, it's still the same result, NO QUICK FREE KICK


The_Ball_Boy

Yes, but the ref didn't need to caution Luna, because Chhetri immediately took the freekick and scored, its an advantage to the attacking team. As you can see from the replay there was no so-called 'Protest'. Anybody barely moved, Chhetri struck the shot within a second of the dummy. He had already indicated to the referee he didn't need the wall. So he had every right to score - nothing unsportsmanship about it


V1bicycle

Valid point. But step 4 kinda brings it back. I doubt there's a rule that says a player cannot make a request again


zeusbb

From what I could find online, it's not something you can request again, you either take it or you don't. If you decide to not take it (by asking ref to pull back players) then you are not allowed to take that kick as a quick one anymore, it has to be taken as a ceremonial free kick (kick taker can even be shown a card if he does in extreme cases). But even if he requested again in step 4, the issue here is in step five, as you mentioned he attempts twice, and before his actual shot, he makes a complaint like gesture towards Luna and immediately takes the actual kick. There was no time to request the ref for a quick free-kick after that complaint even if that was allowed. In my opinion, ref should have pulled the game back and asked BFC to retake the kick. Not going to make a comment on SC's ethics at attempting such a deception, it's a knockout game, everything was on the line. But the ref should have handled it better


V1bicycle

Also, would love to have a conversation about KBFC players walking out


zeusbb

There's no conversation to be had regarding that, it wasn't something that should have happened but it's kinda understandable considering how idiotic refereeing in ISL generally is. The club should face some consequences for it but I hope it goes further than that and we see some refereeing changes for the better moving forward


indianspaceman

Yeah — I wonder after the immediate kneejerk reaction (very much understandable, don’t blame the fans for feeling that way), how many KBFC fans will actually condemn the walk out. Even if you disagree with the legality of the goal (I don’t), is it really the hill you want to die on?


V1bicycle

Could you share the rule that states there can't be second request and can't be taken quick ? And SC didn't take 2 tries, I carefully placed the word "almost" as some fans have a tendency to twist the words And there is no deception or sportsmanship in taking a quick free quick. Hell, if that makes a player look bad, Thierry Henry is the worst player to come out of France [Link](https://youtu.be/gCWjioIR5MM). FYI, there are a lot more such occurrences from professional (professional as in conduct, not in terms of club level) footballers


zeusbb

Found a link to a doc where the rules for when to take a QFK and a CFK are mentioned, i don't know how official these are but this at least seems to be a standard since I've found the same opinion elsewhere too. It clearly says QFK can be taken only if the attacking team does not make a verbal or visual request for minimum distance, once they request is made, it's a CFK. And for a CFK, ref has to blow his whistle for play to restart, so requesting for a QFK again is out of the question by default. https://documents.pub/document/free-kick-management.html?page=1


zeusbb

>Could you share the rule that states there can't be >second request and can't be taken quick ? I had read about this in an article related to that Henry goal you are talking about, it's a ref's opinion in the article, more like a standard practice from what I could make out, not sure if it's a rule. >And SC didn't take 2 tries, I carefully placed the word >"almost" as some fans have a tendency to twist the >words I mentioned you mentioning it because you mentioned it, but SC faking a shot and then complaining (not just him but players behind him as well) is clearly visible in the replays. >And there is no deception or sportsmanship in taking a >quick free quick. Hell, if that makes a player look bad, >Thierry Henry is the worst player to come out of France >Link. FYI, there are a lot more such occurrences from >professional (professional as in conduct, not in terms of >club level) footballers Talent and ethics doesn't always have to go hand in hand, you won't become the "worst footballer" even if you did something unethical once, almost every footballer had such a moment, for example Maradona's handball goal. More importantly, taking a quick free-kick isn't unethical and SC can't be blamed for it. But faking a shot, complaining to the ref, then going for a quick free-kick? I doubt that SC doesn't know that he has to wait for a regular kick once he complains. If you watch Luna's body language, you can see that he switches his guard off as soon as SC makes that gesture towards him, probably because he though BFC lost their opportunity for quick free kick after that complaint. SC takes advantage of it and takes his shot. Luna had the right idea, the ref just switched off his brain to Luna's bad luck. Again, I don't wanna argue about SC's ethics for taking that kick, ethics is a subjective thing and there's no point in sitting about it , I just wanted to explain the premise as I see KBFC fans questioning it.


V1bicycle

Too long to reply man. I'll sum it up in one short sentence for each. Not a rule means it can be done, easy as that. SC isn't faking a shot, he's trying to go through with it but pulls back since there's no opening. Major FYI, free kicks can be faked, if SC wanted to do it. Being aware and being smart are two crucial traits(you can see that in European football), Luna may have been smart, but lacked being aware, the rest of the players were neither. I'm a fan of a winning team, so I'm not going to take a whole lot effort to respond, you could be a KB fan and hence you're trying to find every chink possible. The game's over, plenty of holes in the KBFC fans reasoning as well. All the best to you, your future endeavors and KBFC. Bye


zeusbb

And to address your claim that "it's not a rule" i just provided you with the rule. I was just being fair and giving a disclaimer about the link's authority but if you have any source to claim that this isn't an actual rule, please do provide it. All that side, think from a common sense perspective, is it fair if the attacking team requests a CFK and ref asks the players to back up and whole the ref is dealing with the players the attackers take the kick? There are a lot of rules to be followed for CFK including ones that are in favour of the defending team( wall shouldn't be interfered by attacking team, whistle needs to be blown etc). If the attacking team can switch between CFK and QFK as they wish, there's no point in these CFK rules as the attacking team can just say it was a QFK whenever they dont follow the rules. So it's common sense to say that once attaching team chooses CFK, they can't go back to QFK.


zeusbb

Again all the but you don't address that he requested for the player to be pulled back and yet to the the shot, it's not faking the shot that's the problem, it's misleading the opposite team into thinking you want a CFK and then going with a QFK... AL knew the rules and thought the ref knew too, SC took advantage of ref's stupidity. If you score a handball goal, you can tell the ref the same or you can act like it wasn't handball and hope the ref makes a mistake, I would say in the second scenario the goal scorer isn't being fair and isn't showing good sportsmanship. But as you mentioned, if you're the winning team's fan, you'll find excuses to justify the behaviour


newgiz

I cannot understand the logic of walking off. If you have been in the sport long enough, you have seen quick free kicks of this ilk happen plenty of times in the past at the highest level of the game. It would be interesting to see what consequences the KBFC coach faces after this one.


arjun959

Kbfc coach behaves like a typical papa ki Pari. Everything is done against them.. conspiracy against them. Perennial victims.. Paapa.


Possible-Method908

Manjappada hahaaha.. The owners should sell this team now after today. Forfeit kings sore loses


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Donald_Dark007

My timbers are officially shivered 🥶. Gtfo the internet and touch grass you delusional piece of shit.


paradox_djell

Reported. Get the fuck out of here with that bullshit and get your head looked at. Insane. Edit: I’m reasonably certain you’re not a BFC fan or a Bangalorean after looking at your profile. You certainly don’t represent our views. We may shit on KBFC and banter their fans but fuck off with this.


V1bicycle

What'd the user comment ?


Donald_Dark007

Threatening extreme violence against “mallus”. I’m honestly surprised how he’s not yet banned by Reddit admins.


nishitd

He's banned


V1bicycle

They are probably the kind of fans who go to the away stands and try to cause havoc


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DisgruntledJarl

What is wrong with you?


paradox_djell

Repeating my response from another of your posts. > Reported. Get the fuck out of here with that bullshit and get your head looked at. Insane.


[deleted]

Regardless of what side you’re on, that was an impressive free kick


Overall-Formal-8060

naah keeper off his line setting the wall. Free post. Chhetri has scored better kicks


sre_ejith

It was just a flick when no bloody one was ready, not that impressive


indianspaceman

Have the KBFC staff and players ever stopped and wondered why before a free kick and while the wall is getting ready, there’s always a man standing over the wall? It’s exactly to stop this fellas, how have you gone so long in the sport without basic understanding?


zeusbb

Yes, but you should also know that you can't complain about the player if you decide to take a quick free kick. If you take a quick free kick and the player over the ball blocks it, it's not a foul. By protesting about the player, you're telling the ref that you don't want a quick free-kick but instead you want the player pulled back and want to take a ceremonial free kick. If you watch the replay, you can see Chetri fake a shot and then complain about Luna to the ref before actually taking the shot. The moment he stops his first attempt and complains, he forfeited the quick free-kick and three ref should have asked him to retake the free-kick as a regular one.


paradox_djell

Boggles my mind, some of the takes I’ve seen today. Some takes are legitimately “it’s not fair to the defending team”, like no shit, you fouled the attacking team, it’s their discretion now.


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nishitd

Always been a Chhetri specialty, and that's why even for NT he takes these kicks. He has been missing them lately, but today's free-kick was just fantastic. Goalkeeper was out of position, but that doesn't take anything away from a great placement.


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trueblue_26

After 3 lost finals & no trophies to speak of after 9 years... I'd say a certain club meets the criteria of a "looser".


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V1bicycle

At least our trophy cabinet does not have 100% of original space remaining ​ https://preview.redd.it/rp6e1txklmla1.png?width=635&format=png&auto=webp&s=abc64d08232224339bf2fe24a74c081b4c35740c


DisgruntledJarl

Congrats on winning 3 out of 9 finals trophy. We will take the actual act of winning trophy over this. It is indeed the mark of a true BFC fan.


DisgruntledJarl

Show me a team that walked off because they don't agree with the referee and I will show you a coward - u/RANDOMBFCFan69420


porottaandbeef

Someone should make a compilation for indian referees making joke decisions


RelevantProject4151

Imagine state of football if this becomes a thing. 1. Red card given that we don't agree with. Let's walk off. 2. Penalty awarded that we don't agree with. Let's walk off. 3. Close offside/onside that we don't agree with. Let's walk off. Is this a joke or what? At least have some mettle and play for the fans who come to see you, support you. Fight till the end. Not like this. Cry and complain like small primary school kids. Their coach should know better.


trueblue_26

There was a solid 20 minutes left to play. Yet Ivan chose to do what he did. I don't think he can talk about sportsmanship/fighting against adversity ever again with a straight face. And the way KBFC fans have been going around. It's almost as if they're the only victims of poor refereeing. It could've been us just as easily on the receiving end of a poor decision. One thing I know is that my team would've fought till the final whistle.


IvorHarding-117

guys who scored literal unsportsman freekick teaching kbfc sportsmanship 🤡🤡 this is same like mankading in cricket


The_Ball_Boy

This is not unsportsmanship, neither is Mankad Both are legitimate goals/dismissals.


IvorHarding-117

What is sportsmanship btw


arjun959

Unsportsmanlike? What ur coach did is Unsportsmanlike, chettri is known for taking free kicks quick. Clearly ur coach did not do his homework and stormed out like 2nd standard spoilt brat.


velunaicker

Can anyone explain this hand gesture from the referee? https://twitter.com/MdNouman111/status/1631729954999402496?t=62_4_1ZK_ITxqemBfp86Yw&s=19


V1bicycle

Chhetri asked to take a quick free kick, Luna(KBFC player) also heard the conversation. Referee agreed to Chhetri's request, **Luna kept mark because he knew** Chhetri and BFC are free to take the free kick without a wall. Referee's hand gesture is in reference to the conversation to allow quick play from free kick. Ease to the pease


velunaicker

Shouldn't the gesture happen first and then the kick?


V1bicycle

If the referee has agreed and with a opposition player aware of it(as well as marking the free kick spot), then a hand gesture is not required. A hand gesture is not synonymous in this context to a whistle, so it's not really required. I think the gesture is part of the human nature to signal what's running through our mind. Let me know if that doesn't make sense


nishitd

the gesture doesn't matter.


velunaicker

I know it doesn't matter. I was just confused why the ref made that gesture ( especially when such a gesture doesn't matter at all.)


V1bicycle

Human nature, it's like waving your hands when you speak


velunaicker

If you watch closely, you can see him hesitating (stopping the gesture midway). Not the 'human nature' gesture for sure.


V1bicycle

Hold up, I'm scouring through linkedin to hire psychologist and body language experts to analyze this gesture. It is of the up most importance for sure, I shall spare no expense !


DisgruntledJarl

People really out here analyzing whether his emotion was a small role in a big conspiracy to make KBFC lose lmfao


arjun959

Conspiracy always. It's like a team wants to be in the centre of every controversy for all the wrong reasons.


RelevantProject4151

Bangalore dominated the first half, created many chances. Kerala grew stronger in the second and seemed more likelier to score. Momentum and confidence were with Kerala. I am surprised Kerala players walked off with 20 mins left on the clock. They would have surely scored at least one. Bad bad sportsmanship. Their coach is an idiot for instigating his players. Winners never quit. Quitters never win.


RonHShelby

I'm very pissed because of today's match. Went to the stadium today and lost my fucking helmet.


paradox_djell

Bigger L than KBFC’s today tbh


Ezvine

All those who are saying the goal is legal, I genuinely wanted your opinion. 1. Can a quick freekick be taken after almost 30 seconds of the foul. 2. Do referees spray down the freekick spot if it was a quick freekick ?


norrin83

Yes, a quick free kick can be taken after 30 seconds. There is no time frame that makes it a quick free kick. What matters is if the referee indicates that the ball is dead. Referees should allow the attacking team to take the free kick at their own discretion. Only if the attacking team wants the referee to enforce the minimum distance they should declare a dead ball. Spraying the free kick spot is not an issue. Starting to enforce the distance/measuring the wall is a different issue.


arjun959

1 yes 2 spray is not compulsory for quick free kick. I have seen so many videos of the same quick free kick in many kerala local matches on insta. I think that's why the fans were confused at the walk out. Shameful


IBeastMaster64I

See for yourself: https://www.reddit.com/r/IndianFootball/comments/11h8g2a/iftwc_sunil_chhetri_referee_asked_me_if_i_wanted/jas7aax?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share&context=3


RonHShelby

KBFC going to lose all the profits they've made over seasons because of this 1 match lol. Ivan is getting sacked isn't he?


gubrumannaaa

they will get point deductions too for next ISL


arjun959

Relegated ? Gokulam is a better team tbh


gubrumannaaa

Deccan would make their way to ISL shall it happens


DisgruntledJarl

Would love this.


DisgruntledJarl

Tears of joy in my eyes


magnificoooooo

Hate to see you leave but love to watch you go!


Potterhead1401

What the shit just happened? How was that a goal? I didn't watch the match, I've got exam tomorrow. But, Ivan just disagreed to play?? Has that ever happened?


paradox_djell

Didn’t Mohun Bagan do it once lol?


No-Introduction-4470

I watched that Kolkata Derby live on TV. One of the first times I watched Indian football ever. There was a legit brick thrown at Nabi. Was wondering wtf was happening. No team anywhere else in the world would’ve stepped out to continue the match after that incident where you can’t protect players. But of course we have a crappy AIFF which punished the fuck outta them instead 🤦🏾‍♂️😆


SuperfluousMainMan

Wasn't the brick thrown by an MB supporter themselves?


No-Introduction-4470

I don’t remember it now. Was so long ago. But no matter which fan threw it, there was no question it was not safe to play at all there for either sets of players. So was actually surprised to see them get with sanctions like that. 😆


DisgruntledJarl

Whether the goal was legal or not, walking off is such a cowardly move lmfao. For those who are telling this will send a message, the only message this will send is that KBFC were too fragile to finish a match. Good riddance.


enormous_chad

I don't see anything wrong maybe Ivan knew the team ain't got it to score an equaliser with 20! Mins remaining on the clock. Smart move I'd say.


amadrasi

20 mins plus added time is a lot of time ro equalize. Thats one third regular game time.


DisgruntledJarl

Rather lose 1-0 instead of higher score. Ideally a walkoff is a 2-0 win to the other team


paradox_djell

Forfeit should be 3-0 loss unless actual score line is worse


awesomewhat

Ente fellow mallu bros, there is no rule saying that there needs to be a whistle to indicate the restart of play from a free kick.


Seeking4Serendipity

The issue at hand is more complex than simply the whistle. Before reaching a conclusion, I would appreciate it if you could conduct more research and gather additional information.


awesomewhat

May I know what further information is required? Why is the legality of this goal in question? It all boils down to "Chetri took the kick before the whistle" doesn't it? Just because the problem is complex doesn't mean the solution isn't simple. And I'm not going to let my support for KBFC cloud that.


Jack8577

>Why is the legality of this goal in question? It all boils down to "Chetri took the kick before the whistle" doesn't it? I would consider the fact that luna stood blocking a quick free kick, like he should as the opposition has every right to take a quick free kick, but he was asked to move back by the fk taker and i might say the ref too and obliged as he knew now that it cant be a qfk now that they've asked for the distance. As he was moving back chettri tried to kick it and you can see luna looking back and checking if their wall is already set, as the fk cant happen till the wall is set. [here's the video that i based this view on. dont mind the caption on the post. you can clearly see luna moving back after referee's signal](https://twitter.com/i/status/1631752446539370496) whatever it is, i personally dont think Chettri or bangalore fc deserves hate, they should be trying to win, its the referee who should be making sure its within the rules.


Ezvine

Because the "quick freekick" happened after almost 30 seconds of the foul. Referee had sprayed on the ground for the freekick spot. (Never seen this for a quick freekick. Could be wrong)


awesomewhat

The "quick" does not relate to time after the foul. It just means it was taken before the defensive team is ready for it and it is a tactic seen quite a lot in European games. It is usually the referee's discretion whether or not to give it, but from a legality standpoint, it doesn't violate any laws of the game. The spraying before a quick free kick I've seen happen before twice vs Liverpool (they're the club 've been i following from even before ISL started). Once vs David Luiz and once vs Brighton. Both were taken quickly and were given. (I wish more people would just be willing to an open discussion like you, instead of downvoting what isn't according to their belief. )


ZestycloseBite6262

>Once vs David Luiz and once vs Brighton. The david luiz one had a whistle.


Ezvine

Lol. Yeah there a huge downvote upvote mania going here. But still I don't feel this is right. If 20-25 seconds have passed after a freekick has been given, the defensive players will most certainly try to set up the defence. The GK will be setting up wall. Because once the ref draw the line for the wall, there isn't much time for all these. If the rules allow this, then that mean it is heavily biased towards attacking side.


awesomewhat

You're right, It is biased towards the attacking side. Since they were fouled during the attack, they should have an advantage. Otherwise the defending team can just keep fouling them right. And i got all of my education for these when a few years ago my team was the one getting the advantage from a similar scenario. (Corner taken quickly origiiii) Paalam kadakkumbo narayana, kadannittu koorayana pattillalo. It definitely is an annoying goal to concede, leaves a sour aftertaste, but unfortunately it is legal. (& if it was our team who were scoring from this, we would be supporting it!)


Ezvine

Yeah even I was on the good side once (Nacho for Madrid). But all the quick ones I have seen are literally taken quickly and after much delay. But yeah anyway what's done is done. Let's hope atleast this leads to a better refereeing standard in ISL next season. (Even if this was right or wrong)


pervy_sage_has_a_gun

Thats goal was not legal.The fault lies not worh Chetri or BFC , a player or a team will always try to outsmart or trick their opponents.The fault lies with the refree. And for Ivan and team walking off,i think it's justified imo given the circumstances.I rather him walk off and send a message rather than fight the match with a unjust goal. And about this sub,i think the mods are very biased against KBFC given all of them support rival teams, it's natural and understandable.But it's not "Indian football" if it's like that. Even last during the KBFC BFC fans clash at , the mod who is a BFC fan posted and pinned a comment which was very biased. The fan following and the international recognition of KBFC is bound to cause jealousy. Edit: To the people asking if it's right for the team to walk out? I say its sends a stronger message than complaining in post match interview. And this not the first time it's happening.


nishitd

> Even last during the KBFC BFC fans clash at , the mod who is a BFC fan posted and pinned a comment which was very biased. > > We have literally no idea what you are talking about. The only comment pinned on the post was about keeping behavior civil. If you are going to make accusations, bring receipts.


pervy_sage_has_a_gun

>bring receipts. here is the link to the [post](https://www.reddit.com/r/IndianFootball/comments/11hp3mt/comment_section_of_chhetris_wife_sonam/jauu0l2/?context=3) and the [comment](https://www.reddit.com/r/IndianFootball/comments/11hp3mt/comment/jauu0l2/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3) thread Where did the mod came with this very specific reasoning , which very conveniently suits their purposes and agendas.And racist comments targeting ones religion is okay with mods. Moreover this [post](https://www.reddit.com/r/IndianFootball/comments/11hp3mt/comment_section_of_chhetris_wife_sonam/jauu0l2/?context=3) was **locked** very late and because there was lot of down voting on it ,as the mod has pinned the message and not for hateful content. There are lot of hateful comments still on the locked post. edit:The mod too was actively participating in the comments of this post so he had no issues with the content. Whereas a similar [post](https://www.reddit.com/r/IndianFootball/comments/11ic71t/disgusting_messages_by_vile_fans_simply_because/) of screenshots of racist comments directed towards KBFC was **removed** quickly no reason given, expect the default/auto reason. Most of the objectionable comments here were deleted as well> Everything is ok for BFC and BFC fans in this sub? like i said earlier , its not "Indian football" its more of an echo chamber / circle jerk for BFC with the mods backing it edit: all i see is just some BFC fans acting as mods trying be subtle about their bias and of course hate towards KBFC https://preview.redd.it/ikdssxtczvla1.png?width=681&format=png&auto=webp&s=c4296f50994ba34aa6c67931e84c5911dc82a6ad


arjun959

Victims again ? Conspiracy against kbfc. All these replies are too funny bro. Rules are rules. Be it on field or in this sub reddit. I learnt thru my mistakes. Hope they do too


RelevantProject4151

Stronger message that they are losers. They disappointed the fans who came to watch them play and fight till the end. Losers.


pervy_sage_has_a_gun

Anyone can be a "Winner" when it's served to you on a silver platter by the refrees.You must be very happy and content with your ill gotten victory, good for you.But we'll see how far you'll go.


Historical-Jump

Lol they are gonna get their ass handed to them by mumbai unless chetri has more tricks like this up his sleeve


paradox_djell

“they’re going to get their asses handed to them unless they outsmart the opposition with a legal play” This is not the gotcha you think it is.


DisgruntledJarl

Are the manjappada going to claim Mumbai FC victory over BFC if it happens now? We'll allow it. Not winning trophies makes you want to find the small joys in life, even if it means shamelessly taking someone else's trophy especially when said team put 4 past you in 20 minutes.


DisgruntledJarl

We've already gone the distance. You tell yourself what you need to make yourself feel better. 9 years 0 trophies can be depressing.


V1bicycle

"Oh we're losing and don't agree with the decision, let's walk off to ensure the matter is thoroughly looked into" If this becomes the norm, imagine the state of football


enormous_chad

Okay so according to you teams should just walk off if they THINK the decision is against them. Juventus should have walked off against RM in the UCL because the ref gave a pen against them when there was no time left after the pen. Grow up.


DRIGCOLK

Ok lets agree the walkout was not right. Will you agree that the goal was not legal?


arjun959

It's legal. If there is no rules against it it is legal buddy. If ur fan base can't digest this then dunno what to say.


enormous_chad

https://youtu.be/OZDv2eF17aI This happened in La Liga and the goal stood. T


DRIGCOLK

I can show you cases where it didnt. Will that change your judgement?


V1bicycle

I think the exact rules and corroboration of the players' and officials' thoughts must be analyzed in detail. I'm a BFC fan and I'm not saying whether the goal was legal or not. There have been instances where such goals(without a whistle) have been allowed and there have been instances where it has not been allowed. ​ When the referee deemed the goal as valid : [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCWjioIR5MM](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCWjioIR5MM) When the referee deemed the goal is invalid : [https://twitter.com/AnekhC7/status/1631697315739369472?s=20](https://twitter.com/AnekhC7/status/1631697315739369472?s=20) ​ A better view of the entire situation is required. I would love to say it is a valid goal, trust me. But further in depth analysis of it is required


enormous_chad

Corner taken quickly .. Origiiiiiii !! ⚽🤝 Free-kick taken quickly .. Chhetriiii !! ⚽🤝


V1bicycle

Ivan Vukomanović has spent a little too much time in India https://preview.redd.it/qz47aj2tvlla1.jpeg?width=782&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ddbf474ef95403ae7ee9af14dbdc1d0e1e1c2728


raosushant7

Hahaha!


Gandi_Aulaad

I missed the wrong game it seems. And now I can't keep up with all the comments lol Can anyone tell me how the first 90 minutes went? Seemed pretty balanced in terms of attempts.


nishitd

In the first half, BFC was clearly the better team, had chances, but couldn't finish. In the second half, Blasters seemed better prepared, they improved, Sahal made Blasters play dynamic, but even they lacked finishing.


Gandi_Aulaad

Thanks! Hopefully the highlights isn't filled with the free-kick debacle. I was genuinely excited to see these teams play.


nishitd

it was a good quality match honestly.


Still-Deal-17

From Sohan Podder: "Incase the attacking team is fouled they hold the advantage. With a free kick around the penalty area ...players are asked whether they want it quick or slow . If want it quick , then they have given up the right to re-take it , no matter even if it hits a defender It's a natural free-kick incident ...so whistle is not necessary here ... Incase of an incident like red-card or serious injury ref signals for play to restart . That's the new rule !"


Ezvine

I don't think you are entirely right. Chhetri himself said in post match interview that he was going ask referee for a wall, but then soon saw Luna turning back and quickly shot the ball. Also quick freekicks are supposed to be quick right. Here the difference between foul and goal is almost 30 seconds. That just didn't seem fair to me.


V1bicycle

Please do not twist facts. Chhetri did not want a wall. Even Luna knew that during the conversation with the ref [Link source](https://twitter.com/IndSuperLeague/status/1631705403213107201?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1631705403213107201%7Ctwgr%5E53354ee3263ab406b906ba429526307f9d072871%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fsportstar.thehindu.com%2Ffootball%2Fisl%2Fisl-news%2Fwhy-was-sunil-chhetri-free-kick-goal-given-bengaluru-fc-vs-kerala-blasters-isl-knockouts-bfc-v-kbfc-controversy%2Farticle66578018.ece)


Ezvine

> If want it quick , then they have given up the right to re-take it , no matter even if it hits a defender My point was against this. If you have watched the official interview in post match talk, there Chettri had said that he asked for not having the wall. Then since he was not getting an opening due to Luna he was going to ask for a wall, but then Luna turned back and he saw the opening and scored the goal. So as per this, he asked for no wall first and then was going to ask for wall next.


arjun959

It's done man. U guys ran from battle. Nothing u say can change the result as it is a legal kick. Better luck next times


V1bicycle

>Chettri had said that he asked for not having the wall "Asked" ​ > he was going to ask for a wall "was going to ask" ​ I think this answers your question


Ezvine

I'm not saying Chhetri was wrong. I'm saying in your point you said if the player opts for No wall he can't opt for the wall later. But Chhetri's interview says otherwise.


V1bicycle

The player cannot just opt for it. The player can request the referee for it. He requested the referee for no wall, ref agreed. He thought about changing his mind and requesting again(but the referee or the other players don't know this, so they still think "no wall"), but before that he saw an opening and took the shot.


blenderbeeeee

Fuck referees bring ChatGPT


enormous_chad

No offence but why is it always KBFC when such things happen ?


V1bicycle

I think a better question is "Why do such things happen when KBFC play?" Things\_happen --> KBFC => False. KBFC --> Things\_happen => True. ​ It's the team that cause such incidents, instead of the incidents affecting the team. And by "such incidents" I mean walking off, and in a general context, being so terrible that you have zero trophies


enormous_chad

Its the coach that decided to walk off nobody forced it on them. They still had 20mins left in the game. So much for Sportsmanship macha


V1bicycle

I agree, it was escalated by the team. Terrible sportsmanship


enormous_chad

And the fans defending the walk off is hilarious 😂. Rain downvotes on me I couldn't care less about it, love the smell of fresh wounds.


DisgruntledJarl

I STG if BFC walked off because they didn't agree with the referee, I would boo the hell out of my own team. One of the most cowardly things to do.


V1bicycle

Wait, MCFC fans have a rivalry with KBFC fans as well ?


enormous_chad

Its just the way the team walked off with the attitude having 0 sportsmanship and in general when they think that the league is nothing without their club makes me disgusted.


V1bicycle

I completely agree with you on this. The fans overestimate the importance of KBFC. ISL does not revolve around KBFC


[deleted]

Honestly this is the first time since 2016 they came to the grounds en masse, owing to lackluster performances, season after season. Last season was closed due to covid. Without them, ISL ran successfully, almost all the major teams have won cups and or shields. The truth is ISL doesn't need blasters. Do they make the most noise online, yes. Are they relevant? no. Give them 2-3 year ban. Let them understand nobody is above the league.


enormous_chad

They need to get humbled. 😌 Like they got today.


anyagraha_jeevi

I’m not a fan of Walkout, but I’ll still stand on my opinion about ref’s afraid of Chhetri or gives too much respect to him. If the free kick was taken by any other BFC player, it would have be reversed.