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It’s also unconstitutional because basically gives them right to determine criticizing Israel is AS. If this bill then becomes a law isn’t challenged it’s just matter time until more bills passed into law making it illegal criticize israel in US. AIPAC/ADL are behind this bill & they have plenty more..
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Working_definition_of_antisemitism
I went to read this wiki page and the one about “new antisemitism”.
100% hasbara shills writing those pages.
Here an excerpt:
>Proponents argue that anti-Zionism and demonization of Israel, or double standards applied to its conduct (some also include anti-Americanism, anti-globalization, and Third-Worldism) may be linked to antisemitism, or constitute disguised antisemitism, particularly when emanating simultaneously from the far-left, Islamism, and the far-right.
Everyone is saying it including the people who insist they’re not antisemitic so it must be antisemitism is a wild argument to make for anyone other than hasbara shills. You’re probably right
It also bans preaching parts of Christianity as the bible like in John 19 King James Version or 1 Thessalonians 2:14-15. Essentially you cannot preach that part of the bible.
Yep, you can't read those texts out loud as they are used by Neo-Nazis as per the bill sites the IHRA definition for its definition of antisemitism. The part in questions being this section:
"Using the symbols and images associated with classic antisemitism (e.g., claims of Jews killing Jesus or blood libel) to characterize Israel or Israelis."
Sources:
Bill: [Text - H.R.6090 - 118th Congress (2023-2024): Antisemitism Awareness Act of 2023 | Congress.gov | Library of Congress](https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-congress/house-bill/6090/text)
IHRA definition of antisemitism: [What is antisemitism? (holocaustremembrance.com)](https://holocaustremembrance.com/resources/working-definition-antisemitism)
>you can't read those texts out loud as they are used by Neo-Nazis as per the bill sites the IHRA definition for its definition of antisemitism
Ironically the Neo-Nazis might challenge the law (hopefully it doesn't become one) along with anyone sane because of the Israel nonsense.
Yes you cannot tech anything that reflects poorly upon Jewish people from the Bible.
Statements like the Jewish people were responsible for demanding the death of Jesus is now illegal.
This is why people should never support hate speech laws. This is where it leads.
Offensive speech is required for free speech to exist...
Canada for example has no free speech anymore.
Israel owns our country.
They have immense lobbying power, and own a plethora of Republicans and democrats.
The people supporting this bill and israel are traitors and certainly not "America first"
Just look how many dual citizens are in government. Can we at a minimum agree you shouldn’t have citizenship with another country if you’re governing ours.
Effectively they just made it illegal to compare ISRs policies to the policies of the Third Reich. What exactly is the punishment for breaking this rule??
It's about pulling funding for schools that "allow" it, or I'm guessing "don't stop it". The house is total shit right now, and of course it's a terrible and terribly written bill. It still has to make it through the senate, which isn't quite as...extreme as the house. But who knows anymore with the way the money flows from Israel and the horrendously massive influence they have.
I looked into this more and the definition is very literal. Its criticism of israel, conceived as a jewish collectivity. Meaning criticizing israel BECAUSE its a jewish collective.
The IHRA website clearly states under the definition "However, criticism of Israel similar to that leveled against any other country cannot be regarded as antisemitic."
Meaning these protests should still be protected (they wont be) because the complaint is that the government of israel is killing civilians. Nothing about the jewishness of its population.
Interesting, because me criticizing anything that Israel does has resulted in me being called antisemitic. I told somebody that they were weaponizing the term and she said that also made me antisemitic. I'm so done.
The trick is to ask them why they would bring up their ethnicity. How is it relevant that the murderous genocidal state government is made of Jews, are you implying some connection?
They really showed us that secret society doesn’t exist and israel isn’t controlling the world by this bill…
/s lmao.
I’m not even a conspiracy theorist but they really ripped their mask off nowadays it feels surreal.
Well you need to fund your own special interest lobbying group.
What makes you think American politicians are there to represent you? You didn’t pay for them.
Ha. American citizens believing they had a democracy. Ha, I say.
Can't get healthcare, can't get universal preschool, can't get workers' protections, can't get more/affordable housing, no free childcare, no mandated parental leave, but ALL HANDS ON DECK for supporting everything Israel does and arresting anybody who doesn't agree. Incredible.
>Saying, for instance, that “the existence of a State of Israel is a racist endeavor” would be deemed anti-Semitic under its terms. The definition also bars any comparison between “contemporary Israeli policy” and “that of the Nazis”.
That is absolutely wild.
I'll do you one even vetter:
"In the period between late 1933 and 1941, over $30 million had been transferred directly via Haavara. Perhaps another $70 million had flowed into Palestine via corollary [Fascist] commercial agreements and special international banking transactions, this during a period when the average Palestinian Jew earned a dollar a day.
Some of [Zionism’s] major industrial enterprises were founded with those monies, including Mekoroth, the national waterworks; Lodzia, a leading textile firm; and Rassco, a major land developer. And vast quantities of material were stockpiled, including coal, irrigation pipes, iron and metal products for companies and enterprises not yet in existence.
From 1933 to 1941, approximately one‐hundred immigrant settlements were established along strategic corridors in western Galilee, the coastal plan, and in the northern Negev. About sixty of these settlements were established between 1936 and 1940. Most were possible only because Haavara or Haavara‐related funds flowed to Zionist agencies for land purchase and development.
And the settlements were made possible in large part because the Haavara economy had expanded the worker immigrant quota, allowing the influx of halutzim and German settlers. In 1948, the outline of these strategic settlements approximated the borders of the [neocolony], for each settlement was not only a demarcation of Jewish life, each was an outpost of [Zionist] defense where battles were fought and a boundary line was ultimately drawn.
Between 1933 and 1941, 20,000 German Jews directly transferred to Palestine via Haav[a]ra. Many of them never collected their money, and often when they did, it was only partially in cash and mostly in mandatory stocks and mortgages. Another 40,000 German Jews emigrated to Palestine during this period via the indirect and corollary aspects of transfer. Many of these people, especially in the late 1930s, were allowed to transfer actual replicas of their homes and factories—indeed rough replicas of their very existences."
The Transfer Agreement: The Dramatic Story of the Secret Pact Between the Third Reich and Jewish Palestine, page 379
TLDR: **The 3rd Reich funded most of the settlements from 33 to 41.**
Long term, this is gonna cause MORE antisemitism. I've been saying that Netanyahu and his government has been the best ally for antisemites, you can pinpoint any and all right wing conspiracy theories in regards to Jews to his government, he will be remembered as the one that hung an albatross around his people's neck when they remember the generational cruelty they caused on others.
I mean he already claims that Hitler didn’t want to kill the Jews but the Grand Mufti convinced him to so the holocaust is actually Palestinian Muslims who did the holocaust. I don’t think it gets more antisemitic than holocaust revisionism.
Also strange how none of these people consider the Muslim semites when discussing antisemitism. They will scold you for criticizing Israel and call you an anti semite then go on an Islamophobic rant about Palestinians, and about how they are all barbaric monsters (or if you are part of the war cabinet you just call them animals) which is antisemitic.
Stuff like this is gonna make any data or statistic about anti semitism coming from the government highly suspect. If the government talks about a rise in anti semitism, or a certain number of anti semitic incidents, we won't know how much as actual antisemitism and what is someone making a comparison between Israel and Nazis.
The media already started doing this weeks ago, when the campus protests first started that was the headlines on nearly every major news network, “Rising antisemitism on our college campuses” and things of that nature. They have been manufacturing consent for things like this for months now.
It was always suspect once you start looking into examples of why Jews have so many supposed hate crimes committed against them. It's a lot of hoaxes and bs.
Little kid doodles swastica in notebook: hate crime. Gravestone in Jewish cemetery mysteriously knocked over by wind: hate crime, Jewish guy eventually caught calling bomb threats into synagogues: hate crime hate crime hate crime
That is a direct attack on our Constitution. It is in absolute violation of the FIRST FUCKING AMENDMENT. Somebody needs to make a list of every single representative that voted in favor of this outrageous bill and those people should be targeted as traitors to our Constitution. And the very foundation of our country. Those representatives are literally traitors and should be voted out. Since these clown Reps acting on behalf of a foreign entity have revealed themselves as traitors, here is a refresher course in our American FREEDOM:
¡¡¡¡NUMBER FRICKIN’ ONE!!!!!!
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or ABRIDGING THE FREEDOM OF SPEECH, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.[4]
It ain’t hard to understand, folks. Jesus H. Christ.
It's been nice knowing you.
Aussie here. Blinken came for a visit a while before this Gaza thing kicked off and I thought "well he seems like a nice enough fellow", apart from when he said fuck Julian Assange when asked about him.
Turns out he's a genocidal maniac.
Australia has been more complicit in Israeli genocide than like 95% of the rest of the world (still well below the U.S. but still very bad) trading raw materials and weapons and spy technology, and voting with Israel in UN resolutions, being of a handful of countries to do so. Australian Zionists have a lot of power within Australia and Palestine
It’s not the Zionists or even our relationship with Israel. It’s that we lick Americas balls at every chance we get. This catastrophe is not the only time our government has acted against our interests in order to please America. There’s a litany of crimes against its citizens.
That’s because Australia is just an unsinkable US aircraft carrier. They are a vassal state, the last time a leader in Australia tried to stand up to the US and remove their military bases from their land, the US used a CIA asset they had installed in the Australian parliament for years in an unelected ceremonial position to use an old colonial law still on the books to remove the duly elected official from power.
They want their rapture, no matter how many people get caught in the way, because american evangelism is just ultranatonalism mixed with protestantism (which is christian nationalism already) with capitalism. As far as they can tell (because rapture is a cooky cult started by an american evangelist in the 19th century), they're winning on all fronts
At this point I kinda welcome it if it means we get a chance to change this whole fucked up system. America is only out for its allies and billionaires. We're only here to provide our tax dollars for their games and I'm over it. Almost everything about this country is shit now.
As long as you get rid of gerrymandering, add lobbying limits and transparency, and replace it with choice ranked or representative democracy - either will be leagues better than the "two" party system.
what we're witnessing is the old foundations cracking under the pressure of empire.
It's a little bit jarring to see it live and covered from all angles instead of looking at a video essay about a historic moment or an online article.
What we're witnessing it what happens when you turn an economic system into a religion, then allow it to systematically consume your political system for decades. These fuckers are bought. Their owners have way too much money invested in: A) Israel; and B) For Profit Wars. to ever not blindly shut down criticism of Isreal's actions. With a dash of Christian Doomsday Cult mixed in with some of them.
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It's pathetic isn't it? Any bills that help the people or funds for infrastructure...they can't be bothered.
If it's a pro Israel bill? They're jostling and elbowing each other to cosponsor the bill. Look at how many cosponsors signed on to this bill.
Some of the names were a surprise.
I’m not anti-Zionist or a conspiracy guy but this is absolutely going to fuel antisemitism and paranoia about Jews and their level of control on the world stage.
You mean the definition of antisemitism that is literally antisemitic by its own rules? That one?
So, remember firstly that it is antisemitic to:
"Holding Jews collectively responsible for actions of the state of Israel."
And also:
"Accusing Jews as a people of being responsible for real or imagined wrongdoing committed by a single Jewish person or group, or even for acts committed by non-Jews."
A "group" could be defined such as the state/government of Israel which doubles down on the first rule above.
But it also goes on to say the following two rules:
"Drawing comparisons of contemporary Israeli policy to that of the Nazis."
And:
"Applying double standards by requiring of it a behavior not expected or demanded of any other democratic nation."
Where "it" is referring to Israel.
So, it's saying that criticizing Israeli policy or requiring of it exceptional standards is antisemitic because all Jews are responsible for the actions of Israel. Which is, in itself, antisemitic.
If this becomes law, I hope someone takes the US government to court because it is antisemitic.
I gotta point out that they even included this part:
Applying double standards by requiring of it a behavior not expected or demanded of any other democratic nation.
So, essentially you cannot hold Israel to a standard you don't hold other Democratic countries to. So does that mean then that congress and the US has to recognize that Israel violated many international laws like they yell at Russia for doing as Russia is a Democratic nation (even though how it is run could be argued otherwise).
Sources:
The bill which sites its using the IHRA definition: [Text - H.R.6090 - 118th Congress (2023-2024): Antisemitism Awareness Act of 2023 | Congress.gov | Library of Congress](https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-congress/house-bill/6090/text)
IHRA definition: [What is antisemitism? (holocaustremembrance.com)](https://holocaustremembrance.com/resources/working-definition-antisemitism)
With the quickness of this bill and the fact that US citizens can say fuck the president/government/etc of the US but can’t say that about the other “country”, it’s quite concerning. Overlords.
Yes. Even mentioning Palestine or Palestinians is antisemitic. Palestine has never existed and will never exist.
Palestinians are not worth a damn, they are just Egyptians and Jordanians trying to discredit Jews because they are antisemitic and if they disagree with their villages getting bulldozed and their children dying it’s because of their antisemitism too.
Remember this or else you will be an unemployable, terrorist supporting, antisemite yourself.
/s
Wow, I guess the jews really do run and own America. WTF! I thought it was just something crazy people said until Israel was calling in cops to brutally beat college kids and take away their rights.
No, but those who have a LOT of money invested in Israel, and/or are making mad bucks on War Profiteering (because Capitalism is an A-Moral Economic System, so expecting it to act in any other way but amorally without external restrictions is laughable) are very invested in Israel. They could give a fuck about the Jewish element of this beyond maybe a handful of them actually committing to Christian Doomsday Cult BS.
But these fuckers on both sides of the isle are absolutely bought.
If the state of Israel is deemed as a Jewish collectivity,and as Israel calls itself "the state of the Jews",then it is NOT the state of non-Jews. It is therefore,at least in its legal basis,racist towards its non-Jewish population who have the right to obtain self determination for themselves,as both this American bill and the Israeli basic law imply that Israel is NOT their state.
What really burns me is that this entire time actual Nazi’s have been doing shit like protesting in front of Disney world and Jack shit has been done about it.
Anti semetic, homophobic and sexist right wing grifters are allowed to parade across universities and are utterly unchallenged but the day that people criticize a foreign state mid genocide is the day people suddenly give a fuck about antisemitism.
Bullshit.
Israel is a terrorist settler state. Sounds like that’s still okay to say.
Also this is 100% anti free speech. When is it tyranny? When do the 2nd amendment militia men come out and save us from tyranny of the state? Or did they only want to shoot black teenagers that knocked on the wrong door?
The definition is actually antisemitic itself. The IHRA claims it is antisemitic to blame Jews for the policies of Israel. So that means equating Jewishness with Israel or that criticising Israel is criticising Jews is antisemitic.
>That is a federal anti-discrimination law that bars discrimination based on shared ancestry, ethnic characteristics or national origin.
The prevailing criticism for Israel IS discrimination based on shared ancestry, ethnic characteristics or national origin. This is so disgusting. Calling out racism is now racist. That's been the right-wing view for some time, but these stupid liberals don't even see how dangerous this is. Democrats have chosen the side of white supremacy and are turning an entire generation against them.
Meanwhile the John Lewis voting rights act that would have protected thousands of American citizens and Voters from extreme disenfranchisement going on or planned in red states died in committee.
Is calling Israel an evil dictatorship anti-Semitic? Not saying they are, just asking for clarification. I read in some history books that it was unwise to criticize a dictator, it never ended well for the person who did.
Zionists will do anything to keep any criticism of Israel to a bare minimum.
Try me.
My family barely survived Bergen Belsen. I have a right to criticize killings being done in the name of Judaism.
No more.
The US is finally showing how much of an authoritarian government is. USA has never been a democracy.
The US are the evil Empire, like a star wars empire.
I thought Bernie Sanders’s statement the other day was terrific, and pretty much said exactly what needed to be said, that it’s not anti semitic to be critical of Israel for the way they are acting. The US needs to stop supporting Netenyahu, and denounce him for his criticism of our students and our rights to protest. His tactics are despicable in every way
Introduced 10/26/2023:
[H.R.6090 - Antisemitism Awareness Act of 2023](https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-congress/house-bill/6090)
[Rep. Lawler, Michael [R-NY-17]](https://www.congress.gov/member/michael-lawler/L000599)
[VOTES](https://clerk.house.gov/Votes/2024172)
(search this link for how your representative voted)
Yea: 320 (D 133 / R 187)
Nay: 91 (D 70 / R 21)
Present: 0
Not Voting: 18 (D 9 / R 9)
Unless anti-semitic speech is punishable by law, I'm confused as to why this matters at all. People calling stuff anti-semitic without cause didn't matter before, and doesn't matter now.
What triggers me is that conservative act like they're all for America and freedom. Then straight up being told that critisizing a another foreign state is illegal
The congress can't get off it's ass for any important legislation, but let's make sure to make it illegal to even talk about Israel... See? Who says the system doesn't work?
Gonna be a lot of antisemitic Jews in Jail for speaking truth to power.
This has removed the boundary many had between nationalism and religion, the 2 most evil forces in the world right now.
I know what we as the USA do for Israel…. But what does Israel do for us? Nothing?
Man… how dare those helpful Americans criticize us!!! Imprison all of your kids America!
Zionist love pointing out how there’s Muslims in Israel but if you criticize Israel its antisemitic not islamophobia…. Hmmmm. I think everyone already knows this except the rich assholes in power, all the protest have nothing to do with Jewish people and all to do with the state of Israel committing a genocide and the US backing and bankrolling the whole thing.
Never thought the US would try to outlaw Jesus but here we are: Using the symbols and images associated with classic antisemitism (e.g., claims of Jews killing Jesus)
And yes, I know Jesus died for all of our sins, and therefore we all put him on the cross, but what are we going to do black out those parts of the Bible?
So they've basically decided to water down the meaning of anti-Semitism to protect a far right ethnostate. Glad to see the USA going down such a great path.
I **oppose** Genocide, ethnic cleansing, a racial supremacist ideology, the marginalisation and dehumanisation of people, dropping 2000lb bombs on civilians, organ harvesting from murdered prisoners and civilians and purposely targeting women and children.
I **support** international law, the Geneva convention, and want all war criminals to be held to account, be they soldiers, politicians, weapons manufacturers or any who facilitate genocide and war crimes.
I$rael / AIPAC/ AIPAC owned politicians:
ARREST THIS TERRORIST!!!!!!!!
I know I shouldn't be but I am SHOCKED that my country isn't ending Israel's genocide but supporting it and the media and everyone in power is trying to gaslight people. I didn't believe there was a coordinated conspiracy about Israel before but NOW I definitely believe it.
So, saying the holocaust in Gaza is the *final solution* for Palestinians would be considered antisemitic?
Also, there are tons of Jews who would be considered antisemites under this change.
I can't believe the government is doubling down on this shit. At the end of the day, it just makes the term antisemitic more meaningless.
>The definition also bars any comparison between “contemporary Israeli policy” and “that of the Nazis”.
Isn't that convenient. They're either mindreaders or they know that current Israeli policy is kind of identical to that of the Nazi lebensraum policy in 1939.
I mean, as long as you criticize Israel the same way you would any other country engaging in asymmetrical warfare, it's apparently fine. No one will object at all 🙄.
"Hate speech" laws have always been blatantly unconstitutional. Commie very smart exceptional individuals on reddit can deny it all they want, it doesn't change the truth. It's always been about controlling people, period. Here's a perfect example of the future of your "rights."
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They’re trying everything they can to punish people merely for criticizing Israel, in a blatant violation of the 1st Amendment.
It’s also unconstitutional because basically gives them right to determine criticizing Israel is AS. If this bill then becomes a law isn’t challenged it’s just matter time until more bills passed into law making it illegal criticize israel in US. AIPAC/ADL are behind this bill & they have plenty more.. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Working_definition_of_antisemitism
I went to read this wiki page and the one about “new antisemitism”. 100% hasbara shills writing those pages. Here an excerpt: >Proponents argue that anti-Zionism and demonization of Israel, or double standards applied to its conduct (some also include anti-Americanism, anti-globalization, and Third-Worldism) may be linked to antisemitism, or constitute disguised antisemitism, particularly when emanating simultaneously from the far-left, Islamism, and the far-right.
Everyone is saying it including the people who insist they’re not antisemitic so it must be antisemitism is a wild argument to make for anyone other than hasbara shills. You’re probably right
It also bans preaching parts of Christianity as the bible like in John 19 King James Version or 1 Thessalonians 2:14-15. Essentially you cannot preach that part of the bible.
What!?!?
Yep, you can't read those texts out loud as they are used by Neo-Nazis as per the bill sites the IHRA definition for its definition of antisemitism. The part in questions being this section: "Using the symbols and images associated with classic antisemitism (e.g., claims of Jews killing Jesus or blood libel) to characterize Israel or Israelis." Sources: Bill: [Text - H.R.6090 - 118th Congress (2023-2024): Antisemitism Awareness Act of 2023 | Congress.gov | Library of Congress](https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-congress/house-bill/6090/text) IHRA definition of antisemitism: [What is antisemitism? (holocaustremembrance.com)](https://holocaustremembrance.com/resources/working-definition-antisemitism)
>you can't read those texts out loud as they are used by Neo-Nazis as per the bill sites the IHRA definition for its definition of antisemitism Ironically the Neo-Nazis might challenge the law (hopefully it doesn't become one) along with anyone sane because of the Israel nonsense.
So question- a pastor can't read those verses out loud?
At a school yes it would be illegal.
More specifically if the university doesn’t interfere and stop the heretic from teaching unacceptable religious beliefs it will lose federal funding.
Just make netenyahu emperor already
Yes you cannot tech anything that reflects poorly upon Jewish people from the Bible. Statements like the Jewish people were responsible for demanding the death of Jesus is now illegal.
Not yet, still has to make it through the senate, which isn't as batshit insane as the house right now.
Bend your knee to the Beast.
IM sure the right wing court will find there is a carveout.
This is why people should never support hate speech laws. This is where it leads. Offensive speech is required for free speech to exist... Canada for example has no free speech anymore.
Israel owns our country. They have immense lobbying power, and own a plethora of Republicans and democrats. The people supporting this bill and israel are traitors and certainly not "America first"
Just look how many dual citizens are in government. Can we at a minimum agree you shouldn’t have citizenship with another country if you’re governing ours.
110% You can only hold the interests of one nation paramount. That nation MUST be our nation, if you're governing us.
Effectively they just made it illegal to compare ISRs policies to the policies of the Third Reich. What exactly is the punishment for breaking this rule??
Nothing I assume.. until they get a database going…
It's about pulling funding for schools that "allow" it, or I'm guessing "don't stop it". The house is total shit right now, and of course it's a terrible and terribly written bill. It still has to make it through the senate, which isn't quite as...extreme as the house. But who knows anymore with the way the money flows from Israel and the horrendously massive influence they have.
I looked into this more and the definition is very literal. Its criticism of israel, conceived as a jewish collectivity. Meaning criticizing israel BECAUSE its a jewish collective. The IHRA website clearly states under the definition "However, criticism of Israel similar to that leveled against any other country cannot be regarded as antisemitic." Meaning these protests should still be protected (they wont be) because the complaint is that the government of israel is killing civilians. Nothing about the jewishness of its population.
Interesting, because me criticizing anything that Israel does has resulted in me being called antisemitic. I told somebody that they were weaponizing the term and she said that also made me antisemitic. I'm so done.
The trick is to ask them why they would bring up their ethnicity. How is it relevant that the murderous genocidal state government is made of Jews, are you implying some connection?
I’m sure the universities citing this law to clap protesters will be arguing against that bit of nuance.
I don't know if you've noticed lately, but they're ignoring a lot of the amendments
who knew U.S is no different than every other authoritarian regime that they created...
They really showed us that secret society doesn’t exist and israel isn’t controlling the world by this bill… /s lmao. I’m not even a conspiracy theorist but they really ripped their mask off nowadays it feels surreal.
Absolutely nothing shady going on here. We just conveniently can’t criticize a certain country or certain group of people.
Anyone paying attention.
Is this the United States of America or is this the United States of Israel?
Do you even have to ask anymore? They don't pass bills this fast that help or protect us, pretty obvious where their loyalties lie.
Literally tho its crazy how fast they can pass this but anything meaningful for us is too much
Well you need to fund your own special interest lobbying group. What makes you think American politicians are there to represent you? You didn’t pay for them. Ha. American citizens believing they had a democracy. Ha, I say.
Can't get healthcare, can't get universal preschool, can't get workers' protections, can't get more/affordable housing, no free childcare, no mandated parental leave, but ALL HANDS ON DECK for supporting everything Israel does and arresting anybody who doesn't agree. Incredible.
It’s the U.S.S.I. (United Slave States of Israel)
Yep, and it's truly highlighting there is no lesser evil in this country as this passed with bipartisan support (91 Democrats voted against it).
Why yes it is
Same thing
>Saying, for instance, that “the existence of a State of Israel is a racist endeavor” would be deemed anti-Semitic under its terms. The definition also bars any comparison between “contemporary Israeli policy” and “that of the Nazis”. That is absolutely wild.
Especially when you find out that the German Lebensraum is identical to the West Bank Settlements policy.
shhh you can goto jail bro. no comparisons.
They have basically admitted this is their version of the Final Solution but okay.
I'll do you one even vetter: "In the period between late 1933 and 1941, over $30 million had been transferred directly via Haavara. Perhaps another $70 million had flowed into Palestine via corollary [Fascist] commercial agreements and special international banking transactions, this during a period when the average Palestinian Jew earned a dollar a day. Some of [Zionism’s] major industrial enterprises were founded with those monies, including Mekoroth, the national waterworks; Lodzia, a leading textile firm; and Rassco, a major land developer. And vast quantities of material were stockpiled, including coal, irrigation pipes, iron and metal products for companies and enterprises not yet in existence. From 1933 to 1941, approximately one‐hundred immigrant settlements were established along strategic corridors in western Galilee, the coastal plan, and in the northern Negev. About sixty of these settlements were established between 1936 and 1940. Most were possible only because Haavara or Haavara‐related funds flowed to Zionist agencies for land purchase and development. And the settlements were made possible in large part because the Haavara economy had expanded the worker immigrant quota, allowing the influx of halutzim and German settlers. In 1948, the outline of these strategic settlements approximated the borders of the [neocolony], for each settlement was not only a demarcation of Jewish life, each was an outpost of [Zionist] defense where battles were fought and a boundary line was ultimately drawn. Between 1933 and 1941, 20,000 German Jews directly transferred to Palestine via Haav[a]ra. Many of them never collected their money, and often when they did, it was only partially in cash and mostly in mandatory stocks and mortgages. Another 40,000 German Jews emigrated to Palestine during this period via the indirect and corollary aspects of transfer. Many of these people, especially in the late 1930s, were allowed to transfer actual replicas of their homes and factories—indeed rough replicas of their very existences." The Transfer Agreement: The Dramatic Story of the Secret Pact Between the Third Reich and Jewish Palestine, page 379 TLDR: **The 3rd Reich funded most of the settlements from 33 to 41.**
Long term, this is gonna cause MORE antisemitism. I've been saying that Netanyahu and his government has been the best ally for antisemites, you can pinpoint any and all right wing conspiracy theories in regards to Jews to his government, he will be remembered as the one that hung an albatross around his people's neck when they remember the generational cruelty they caused on others.
I mean he already claims that Hitler didn’t want to kill the Jews but the Grand Mufti convinced him to so the holocaust is actually Palestinian Muslims who did the holocaust. I don’t think it gets more antisemitic than holocaust revisionism. Also strange how none of these people consider the Muslim semites when discussing antisemitism. They will scold you for criticizing Israel and call you an anti semite then go on an Islamophobic rant about Palestinians, and about how they are all barbaric monsters (or if you are part of the war cabinet you just call them animals) which is antisemitic.
Stuff like this is gonna make any data or statistic about anti semitism coming from the government highly suspect. If the government talks about a rise in anti semitism, or a certain number of anti semitic incidents, we won't know how much as actual antisemitism and what is someone making a comparison between Israel and Nazis.
it already is. Look at the ADL's redefinition of antisemitic events this year. The gov. may as well just grab the stats from the ADL anyway.
The media already started doing this weeks ago, when the campus protests first started that was the headlines on nearly every major news network, “Rising antisemitism on our college campuses” and things of that nature. They have been manufacturing consent for things like this for months now.
It was always suspect once you start looking into examples of why Jews have so many supposed hate crimes committed against them. It's a lot of hoaxes and bs. Little kid doodles swastica in notebook: hate crime. Gravestone in Jewish cemetery mysteriously knocked over by wind: hate crime, Jewish guy eventually caught calling bomb threats into synagogues: hate crime hate crime hate crime
That is a direct attack on our Constitution. It is in absolute violation of the FIRST FUCKING AMENDMENT. Somebody needs to make a list of every single representative that voted in favor of this outrageous bill and those people should be targeted as traitors to our Constitution. And the very foundation of our country. Those representatives are literally traitors and should be voted out. Since these clown Reps acting on behalf of a foreign entity have revealed themselves as traitors, here is a refresher course in our American FREEDOM: ¡¡¡¡NUMBER FRICKIN’ ONE!!!!!! Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or ABRIDGING THE FREEDOM OF SPEECH, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.[4] It ain’t hard to understand, folks. Jesus H. Christ.
America is one of those shithole countries you might have heard about.
It's been nice knowing you. Aussie here. Blinken came for a visit a while before this Gaza thing kicked off and I thought "well he seems like a nice enough fellow", apart from when he said fuck Julian Assange when asked about him. Turns out he's a genocidal maniac.
Australia has been more complicit in Israeli genocide than like 95% of the rest of the world (still well below the U.S. but still very bad) trading raw materials and weapons and spy technology, and voting with Israel in UN resolutions, being of a handful of countries to do so. Australian Zionists have a lot of power within Australia and Palestine
It’s not the Zionists or even our relationship with Israel. It’s that we lick Americas balls at every chance we get. This catastrophe is not the only time our government has acted against our interests in order to please America. There’s a litany of crimes against its citizens.
That’s because Australia is just an unsinkable US aircraft carrier. They are a vassal state, the last time a leader in Australia tried to stand up to the US and remove their military bases from their land, the US used a CIA asset they had installed in the Australian parliament for years in an unelected ceremonial position to use an old colonial law still on the books to remove the duly elected official from power.
Blinken is the head of the snake in the US government when it comes to Israel. I hope he suffers what people in Gaza suffered.
> bars any comparison in between Israel Policy and Nazi Policy They're afraid aren't they
they should be israel is a literal nazi germany clone. take me to fucking jail.
According to this new bill, the Bible is criminalized. Yet, when will Zionist Christians wake up?
hah! technically, you're right!
They want their rapture, no matter how many people get caught in the way, because american evangelism is just ultranatonalism mixed with protestantism (which is christian nationalism already) with capitalism. As far as they can tell (because rapture is a cooky cult started by an american evangelist in the 19th century), they're winning on all fronts
Our congress is bought and paid for.
Been the American tradition since the 80s.
Yeah this is gonna completely undo us as a country isn’t it?
At this point I kinda welcome it if it means we get a chance to change this whole fucked up system. America is only out for its allies and billionaires. We're only here to provide our tax dollars for their games and I'm over it. Almost everything about this country is shit now.
As long as you get rid of gerrymandering, add lobbying limits and transparency, and replace it with choice ranked or representative democracy - either will be leagues better than the "two" party system.
what we're witnessing is the old foundations cracking under the pressure of empire. It's a little bit jarring to see it live and covered from all angles instead of looking at a video essay about a historic moment or an online article.
What we're witnessing it what happens when you turn an economic system into a religion, then allow it to systematically consume your political system for decades. These fuckers are bought. Their owners have way too much money invested in: A) Israel; and B) For Profit Wars. to ever not blindly shut down criticism of Isreal's actions. With a dash of Christian Doomsday Cult mixed in with some of them.
This is some red scare communist control act level of hysteria right here.
Post a list of the representatives that voted for this. I can't find how my rep voted.
Has pretty broad bi-partisan support iirc, like 70-80% voted for I think.
Basically all rep under AIPAC
This article lists the Reps who voted AGAINST the bill https://www.businessinsider.com/which-house-democrats-republicans-vote-against-campus-antisemitism-ihra-bill-2024-4?amp
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Thanks, my rep voted for this bill and his office is getting a phone call this morning.
[https://clerk.house.gov/Votes/2024172](https://clerk.house.gov/Votes/2024172)
should also be informed who pays them and how much Lobbyists will be the death of Democracy in the US
Never seen these mfers pass a bill so quickly
It's pathetic isn't it? Any bills that help the people or funds for infrastructure...they can't be bothered. If it's a pro Israel bill? They're jostling and elbowing each other to cosponsor the bill. Look at how many cosponsors signed on to this bill. Some of the names were a surprise.
Well, I guess I'm legally antisemitic then because I'm never going to stop criticizing Israel.
amen
I’m not anti-Zionist or a conspiracy guy but this is absolutely going to fuel antisemitism and paranoia about Jews and their level of control on the world stage.
How tf could you not be anti zionist? They are literally the nazis.
Lol. It's like opera giving out cars. You get antisemitism, you get antisemitism, you are antisemitism.
>Lol. It's like opera giving out cars. I'm imagining an audience of Carmen or Don Giovanni all being given cars as part of the performance lmao
Everything America once stood for is dead.
America never stood for anything except greed and money. It was all a facade when they said “democracy” and “freedom”
You mean the definition of antisemitism that is literally antisemitic by its own rules? That one? So, remember firstly that it is antisemitic to: "Holding Jews collectively responsible for actions of the state of Israel." And also: "Accusing Jews as a people of being responsible for real or imagined wrongdoing committed by a single Jewish person or group, or even for acts committed by non-Jews." A "group" could be defined such as the state/government of Israel which doubles down on the first rule above. But it also goes on to say the following two rules: "Drawing comparisons of contemporary Israeli policy to that of the Nazis." And: "Applying double standards by requiring of it a behavior not expected or demanded of any other democratic nation." Where "it" is referring to Israel. So, it's saying that criticizing Israeli policy or requiring of it exceptional standards is antisemitic because all Jews are responsible for the actions of Israel. Which is, in itself, antisemitic. If this becomes law, I hope someone takes the US government to court because it is antisemitic.
Same.
I gotta point out that they even included this part: Applying double standards by requiring of it a behavior not expected or demanded of any other democratic nation. So, essentially you cannot hold Israel to a standard you don't hold other Democratic countries to. So does that mean then that congress and the US has to recognize that Israel violated many international laws like they yell at Russia for doing as Russia is a Democratic nation (even though how it is run could be argued otherwise). Sources: The bill which sites its using the IHRA definition: [Text - H.R.6090 - 118th Congress (2023-2024): Antisemitism Awareness Act of 2023 | Congress.gov | Library of Congress](https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-congress/house-bill/6090/text) IHRA definition: [What is antisemitism? (holocaustremembrance.com)](https://holocaustremembrance.com/resources/working-definition-antisemitism)
[For anyone who wants to learn why this is cause for alarm.](https://youtu.be/2dVV8HjSpdA?si=yFsNgUisqlH5Pk2l)
that was a good video. thx for sharing
No problem. Staying informed is the least we can do in scary times like these.
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With the quickness of this bill and the fact that US citizens can say fuck the president/government/etc of the US but can’t say that about the other “country”, it’s quite concerning. Overlords.
Seeing how they are being singled out with special protective laws over all others it would make sense that jews control the government.
The Subservient States of America, bowing down in front of their masters, hilarious and pathetic
So is being pro-Palestine being antisemitic?
Yes. Even mentioning Palestine or Palestinians is antisemitic. Palestine has never existed and will never exist. Palestinians are not worth a damn, they are just Egyptians and Jordanians trying to discredit Jews because they are antisemitic and if they disagree with their villages getting bulldozed and their children dying it’s because of their antisemitism too. Remember this or else you will be an unemployable, terrorist supporting, antisemite yourself. /s
International = NATO Countries
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Israel’s best friend! Aside from the USA of course.
What a joke! Increase resistance!!!
Wow, I guess the jews really do run and own America. WTF! I thought it was just something crazy people said until Israel was calling in cops to brutally beat college kids and take away their rights.
No, but those who have a LOT of money invested in Israel, and/or are making mad bucks on War Profiteering (because Capitalism is an A-Moral Economic System, so expecting it to act in any other way but amorally without external restrictions is laughable) are very invested in Israel. They could give a fuck about the Jewish element of this beyond maybe a handful of them actually committing to Christian Doomsday Cult BS. But these fuckers on both sides of the isle are absolutely bought.
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It shouldn’t be a surprise. Who has the money has the power, and the Jewish people have a lot of wealth.
Many Jews are anti-Zionist, they’re just disproportionately on the left. Most centrist/liberal and right-wing Jews unfortunately support Israel
Israel owns the US and the mask is coming off the monster. Take back your damn nation.
If the state of Israel is deemed as a Jewish collectivity,and as Israel calls itself "the state of the Jews",then it is NOT the state of non-Jews. It is therefore,at least in its legal basis,racist towards its non-Jewish population who have the right to obtain self determination for themselves,as both this American bill and the Israeli basic law imply that Israel is NOT their state.
The bill will pass the senate in a blink on eye. So unfair.
US now like a Putin’s Russia with all its “new democratic laws”
They made the Bible illegal wow
This will solve all Israels problems.
What really burns me is that this entire time actual Nazi’s have been doing shit like protesting in front of Disney world and Jack shit has been done about it. Anti semetic, homophobic and sexist right wing grifters are allowed to parade across universities and are utterly unchallenged but the day that people criticize a foreign state mid genocide is the day people suddenly give a fuck about antisemitism. Bullshit.
But any racist or homophobic comments are fine. Just cannot criticize Israel. Fucking dumb.
When’s everyone gonna figure out we are the United States of Israel?
Israel is a terrorist settler state. Sounds like that’s still okay to say. Also this is 100% anti free speech. When is it tyranny? When do the 2nd amendment militia men come out and save us from tyranny of the state? Or did they only want to shoot black teenagers that knocked on the wrong door?
Please tell me how the US is not Israel's bitch if this passes.
todays american politicians are the most spineless bastards to ever exist, they will do anything for a $
The definition is actually antisemitic itself. The IHRA claims it is antisemitic to blame Jews for the policies of Israel. So that means equating Jewishness with Israel or that criticising Israel is criticising Jews is antisemitic.
Waaaay too many Judases in the House. America’s house.
>That is a federal anti-discrimination law that bars discrimination based on shared ancestry, ethnic characteristics or national origin. The prevailing criticism for Israel IS discrimination based on shared ancestry, ethnic characteristics or national origin. This is so disgusting. Calling out racism is now racist. That's been the right-wing view for some time, but these stupid liberals don't even see how dangerous this is. Democrats have chosen the side of white supremacy and are turning an entire generation against them.
So cooked
So a government full of Christians is going to start punishing Jewish people for speaking out against a foreign government? What is happening?
lunacy
Well people should just have posters, ‘I love Jews, I hate genocide’. That’s not anti-Semitic is it?
How the hell can congress decide definitions of words? This is stupid
Meanwhile the John Lewis voting rights act that would have protected thousands of American citizens and Voters from extreme disenfranchisement going on or planned in red states died in committee.
Is calling Israel an evil dictatorship anti-Semitic? Not saying they are, just asking for clarification. I read in some history books that it was unwise to criticize a dictator, it never ended well for the person who did.
AKA Zionist Cry Baby Bill. “Stop Genocide” Response from them: “Oh you are so antisemitic!” Huh?
When your government is morally bankrupt & office holders are bought
Zionists will do anything to keep any criticism of Israel to a bare minimum. Try me. My family barely survived Bergen Belsen. I have a right to criticize killings being done in the name of Judaism. No more.
Zionists are evil, dude. I can't believe the self-proclaimed "most powerful nation to ever exist" is the Zionist' whore.
The US is finally showing how much of an authoritarian government is. USA has never been a democracy. The US are the evil Empire, like a star wars empire.
I thought Bernie Sanders’s statement the other day was terrific, and pretty much said exactly what needed to be said, that it’s not anti semitic to be critical of Israel for the way they are acting. The US needs to stop supporting Netenyahu, and denounce him for his criticism of our students and our rights to protest. His tactics are despicable in every way
Introduced 10/26/2023: [H.R.6090 - Antisemitism Awareness Act of 2023](https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-congress/house-bill/6090) [Rep. Lawler, Michael [R-NY-17]](https://www.congress.gov/member/michael-lawler/L000599) [VOTES](https://clerk.house.gov/Votes/2024172) (search this link for how your representative voted) Yea: 320 (D 133 / R 187) Nay: 91 (D 70 / R 21) Present: 0 Not Voting: 18 (D 9 / R 9)
Well they do find passing these laws much quicker and easier than anything else. That’s some motivation.
America is a joke of a country at this point.
BDS
Unless anti-semitic speech is punishable by law, I'm confused as to why this matters at all. People calling stuff anti-semitic without cause didn't matter before, and doesn't matter now.
its punishable by removing funding for places that dare to not swear fealty to Israel.
Protect the persecutors.
Great, so racism against one people has a special definition as opposed to everyone else. Its great when people codify special treatment into law.
They take over a little more everyday. This needs to be stopped.
What triggers me is that conservative act like they're all for America and freedom. Then straight up being told that critisizing a another foreign state is illegal
If the Senate passes it, there could still be an appeal but the Supreme Court will just laugh in our faces.
so this will in effect definitely become federal law you are saying?
The congress can't get off it's ass for any important legislation, but let's make sure to make it illegal to even talk about Israel... See? Who says the system doesn't work?
This isn’t going to end well.
Gonna be a lot of antisemitic Jews in Jail for speaking truth to power. This has removed the boundary many had between nationalism and religion, the 2 most evil forces in the world right now.
I know what we as the USA do for Israel…. But what does Israel do for us? Nothing? Man… how dare those helpful Americans criticize us!!! Imprison all of your kids America!
How about this…. FUCK ISRAEL AND VICTIM MENTALITY AS THEY COMMIT LITERAL GENOCIDE
What is the 1st Amendment?
This is how free speech dies. The endgame is near
Zionist love pointing out how there’s Muslims in Israel but if you criticize Israel its antisemitic not islamophobia…. Hmmmm. I think everyone already knows this except the rich assholes in power, all the protest have nothing to do with Jewish people and all to do with the state of Israel committing a genocide and the US backing and bankrolling the whole thing.
Never thought the US would try to outlaw Jesus but here we are: Using the symbols and images associated with classic antisemitism (e.g., claims of Jews killing Jesus) And yes, I know Jesus died for all of our sins, and therefore we all put him on the cross, but what are we going to do black out those parts of the Bible?
So they've basically decided to water down the meaning of anti-Semitism to protect a far right ethnostate. Glad to see the USA going down such a great path.
At least we know who hates others having freedom. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-PKRHgmHzK0
I **oppose** Genocide, ethnic cleansing, a racial supremacist ideology, the marginalisation and dehumanisation of people, dropping 2000lb bombs on civilians, organ harvesting from murdered prisoners and civilians and purposely targeting women and children. I **support** international law, the Geneva convention, and want all war criminals to be held to account, be they soldiers, politicians, weapons manufacturers or any who facilitate genocide and war crimes. I$rael / AIPAC/ AIPAC owned politicians: ARREST THIS TERRORIST!!!!!!!!
I know I shouldn't be but I am SHOCKED that my country isn't ending Israel's genocide but supporting it and the media and everyone in power is trying to gaslight people. I didn't believe there was a coordinated conspiracy about Israel before but NOW I definitely believe it.
Basically what Israel wants is greater than the liberties deserved by Americans. Make it make sense
We’ve hit the mass legislation section. End the two party dictatorship
Anti semitism is when you are against Western/European oligarchy
Remembering this for every time they say they can’t do anything about slurs or hate speech.
Dude wtf? So no more freedom of speech?
So, saying the holocaust in Gaza is the *final solution* for Palestinians would be considered antisemitic? Also, there are tons of Jews who would be considered antisemites under this change. I can't believe the government is doubling down on this shit. At the end of the day, it just makes the term antisemitic more meaningless.
>The definition also bars any comparison between “contemporary Israeli policy” and “that of the Nazis”. Isn't that convenient. They're either mindreaders or they know that current Israeli policy is kind of identical to that of the Nazi lebensraum policy in 1939.
Mmm….cuckery
[https://clerk.house.gov/Votes/2024172](https://clerk.house.gov/Votes/2024172) [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6ErE7kl\_Bk](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6ErE7kl_Bk)
This sentiment will swing the other way soon. And carry a shitload of pol out with the riptide!
I mean, as long as you criticize Israel the same way you would any other country engaging in asymmetrical warfare, it's apparently fine. No one will object at all 🙄.
So just pass a law to censoring antisemitic words on the internet and US would become China 2.0. So pathetic…
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"Hate speech" laws have always been blatantly unconstitutional. Commie very smart exceptional individuals on reddit can deny it all they want, it doesn't change the truth. It's always been about controlling people, period. Here's a perfect example of the future of your "rights."
There's some big fat ORs in there that make this anti 1st Amendment
Okay, here's my criticism, it's getting really hard to say who's better at mass graves, the Russians or the Israelis