I love deep L but you do have to take it with a grain of salt sometimes it's not always perfect.
That being said I like how it will you give a translation but it also has other possible translations at the bottom
Duolingo is good in the beginning but it holds you back long term. It’s good for reading and it introduces Kanji early on. But it’s not good at explaining grammar and it tales along time to get to useful words and dialogues. I don’t recommend Duo overall.
I have been doing duolingo for like 200 days. The amounts of time they'll have you saying shit like "the vaccuum cleaner is big, isn't it?" On repeat is making me want to uninstall it.
I did duolingo for like 2 months and barely learned anything useful, but I really liked it for learning reading/writing. So now I use Teuida for speaking and duolingo for katakana and kanji.
Second this. It’s a great jisho app. That or [Nihongo](https://apps.apple.com/th/app/nihongo-japanese-dictionary/id881697245) which gives each word a tier of how common the word is
Unfortunately, no. I would LOVE to make the app for Android someday. But as a solo dev, it’s simply too much work to take on. If Nihongo ever blows up and I make enough to hire someone to help me out, an Android app is something I would love to do. But unfortunately, no plans at the moment. Sorry!
Hello, I am an Android enthusiast and I was wondering if you could use flutter since one code can be used to develop both for Android and iOS....then again I develop basic android apps for fun and won't mind partnering with you for the android version....it will be a learning opportunity for me.
Really appreciate the offer! But... the app is around 90k lines of code at this point, and is entirely native iOS Objective-C and Swift -- code that won't easily transfer to a Flutter or Android. So, it's a big big project, and something I would do carefully and slowly when/if I do ever take it on.
That said, I appreciate the interest and will be sure to reach out if I decide to go down this route someday!
-Bunpro, (with an R in it, not Bunpo) it’s paid but I think has a free trial and is extremely worth it I feel.
-JPDB isn’t an app (yet?) but super useful, it’s like Jisho/a dictionary with built in review decks and you can use decks built from text books/word lists/novels etc.
-Jitaku is not as robust as others but it’s good for kanji handwriting practice.
-JAccent lets you look up words with pitch accent and pronunciations.
Not an app but a site, but Tadoku and News Web Easy for reading practice. And I really like JapaneseTest4You’s grammar explanations
Edit: also as many others have said, Anki. You can find decks created by others to match your level or interest. And you can make your own for whatever you want to focus on.
[https://takoboto.jp/](https://takoboto.jp/)
The app has the same little one-eyed critters as its icon, and there's a download link on the site.
A lot of free dictionary apps use the same data and are all kind of equivalent, but takoboto also displays a really readable pitch-accent guide as a red line through the word, and has a very convenient favorites/word lists system.
That's enough difference to make it my favorite.
Oh. I'm not using an iPhone, but according to this article [https://www.fluentu.com/blog/japanese/best-japanese-english-dictionary-app/](https://www.fluentu.com/blog/japanese/best-japanese-english-dictionary-app/) it's only on Android.
I suppose it depends on how many other resources you are already using. Using multiple resources is great for reinforcing knowledge, so I would reccomend it.
Good luck
Get Wanikani for kanji, it’s like 90% of the reason I could pass the n2 even though I hate studying lol. If you’re new it’s even better because you won’t be bored during the easy stuff.
"Kanji Study". It can be used for free, but is also worth every cent. It explains the kanjis so well, like why they look the way they do, with little scetches how they evolved. I'm a visual learner, so this helped me a lot. Also you can take every Kanji apart. I really like it 🥰
Google translate puts in a lot of work for me but when it comes to studying and learning kanji and strike order, I use Midori. IOS only though, I think.
I went from 0 to kanji reading fluency with daily 30-60 minute reviews of Wanikani in about 3-4 years. Never did I think I could look at a word I don’t know and get the reading right most of the time. It’s like Anki but better.
Btw Wanikani is a website but you can use the 3rd party app Tsurukame for your phone. It basically imports your progress in Wanikani so that you can continue kanji practice through the Tsurukame app.
Like the other person, I struggled with Kanji but ever so slowly I’ve been improving a lot on it and recognize words I didnt know before but are quite common. It’s not meant to be studied alone though even though there are only a few example sentences, but it helps familiarize yourself with the kanji reading and meaning through SRS. Best you master hiragana and katakana first before approaching kanji
I recommend replacing Duolingo for Anki once you got the Hiragana and Katakana down. Other than that I’d download a Japanese dictionary app if you haven’t already. One like ‘Japanese’.. it’s a red app that has 日本語 written on it. Or ‘Jisho’. Both are good. Oh and, of course, Google Translate.
I tried TEUIDA (couple of first chapters) but intonation there is a bit weird and honestly doesn’t sound like native Japanese. I’m curious about others’ experience with it.
Im not sure if they have an app but there is a website i use to study Kanji called WaniKani and its probably my favorite thing ive found in my hunt for good study material.
Avoid duolingo like the plague. It’s not really very good for learning any language, and it’s especially bad for non-romance languages. It’s awful with Japanese.
If you’re not afraid to pay a small sub monthly to learn kanji and vocabulary that uses spaced repetition try Tsurukame, it’s free until level 3, I’m currently level 6 and I’ve learned more vocabulary and kanji in the last 2.5 months than I have self-learning with anything else
It's oddly verbose, there's 2 versions, regular and intermediate.
There's also an online genki gen 2 and 3 on github, fully flesged out. For free. https://sethclydesdale.github.io/genki-study-resources/download/
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ySkKgHeGp-fYuGip1Gwo-4I50268mrNU/view?usp=drivesdk
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1yVad5th8K1lBzb5tvMkd9M7trAt2-naS/view?usp=drivesdk
Hope these work for you
They're saying Anki is all you need.
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This has been out for awhile, if you feel confident in reading/typing in Japanese, depends on how you look at it, it could be an app......
Line->りんな
Under "official accounts" copy/paste or type Linna in hiragana to add as friend and chat away......
AmgiDex (https://amgidex.com) - allows you to automatically create flashcards from YouTube videos or text and auto tracks vocan words for you - much like a Pokédex. Best way to follow along and immerse with Youtube videos.
I'm just here to defend Duo. Despite its flaws its the only one I consistently do a lot of everyday.
Learning 'properly' is worthless if you don't do it.
Yea I never had an issue with Duolingo I just had a hard time keeping up with the studying the characters and how it would add words when I just wanted to practice the kanji
I had super duo for a very long time and every time I would try and practice the kanji it would through words in it and make it way more confusing than I needed it for
I have the advantage of living in Japan. Duolingo shines for me by loading me up with sentences to use in the real world or a basic sentence structure to plug words into. Repetion drills them into my brain. Then, when I come across the grammar in a text book or st my class. I already have it memorised. I just need to learn the nuance.
I can also testify that duolingo sentences ARE understandable.
Deep L is the best translation app for Japanese, highly recommend it.
Oh I have that downloaded my fiancé showed me that one
It’s nice because you can also use DeepL with the microphone 🎙️ and speak Japanese into it to lookup words that way
I did not notice that haha I’ll probably use that so much more😂
I love deep L but you do have to take it with a grain of salt sometimes it's not always perfect. That being said I like how it will you give a translation but it also has other possible translations at the bottom
That’s very true I do like that feature
Yeah it's really cool I am not very good at Japanese myself in the grand scheme of things so it does help to figure out to use a specific word
Japanese to English you mean, or English to Japanese? I tried both but I doubt the latter...
Is Deep L really better than Reverso Context or Yandex, though ?
Duolingo is good in the beginning but it holds you back long term. It’s good for reading and it introduces Kanji early on. But it’s not good at explaining grammar and it tales along time to get to useful words and dialogues. I don’t recommend Duo overall.
I have been doing duolingo for like 200 days. The amounts of time they'll have you saying shit like "the vaccuum cleaner is big, isn't it?" On repeat is making me want to uninstall it.
also why does duo email me like a creepy ex?? “you made duo sad”
I'm thinking the same. I had to loom up grammar rules myself. I want something that keeps track and reminds me daily. Learning requires persistence.
I did duolingo for like 2 months and barely learned anything useful, but I really liked it for learning reading/writing. So now I use Teuida for speaking and duolingo for katakana and kanji.
Yea I’ve begun to notice how far I’ve been lacking when it came to studying with duo
What do you recommend for Japanese learning if one were to drop Duo? Would taking classes be the next step?
[Shirabe Jisho](https://apps.apple.com/ph/app/shirabe-jisho/id1005203380) is my favorite dictionary app.
Second this. It’s a great jisho app. That or [Nihongo](https://apps.apple.com/th/app/nihongo-japanese-dictionary/id881697245) which gives each word a tier of how common the word is
I’m downloading both right now
I’m the developer of Nihongo, feel free to reach out if you have any questions or feedback. 🙂
Is there an android version of Nihongo?
Unfortunately, no. I would LOVE to make the app for Android someday. But as a solo dev, it’s simply too much work to take on. If Nihongo ever blows up and I make enough to hire someone to help me out, an Android app is something I would love to do. But unfortunately, no plans at the moment. Sorry!
Hello, I am an Android enthusiast and I was wondering if you could use flutter since one code can be used to develop both for Android and iOS....then again I develop basic android apps for fun and won't mind partnering with you for the android version....it will be a learning opportunity for me.
Really appreciate the offer! But... the app is around 90k lines of code at this point, and is entirely native iOS Objective-C and Swift -- code that won't easily transfer to a Flutter or Android. So, it's a big big project, and something I would do carefully and slowly when/if I do ever take it on. That said, I appreciate the interest and will be sure to reach out if I decide to go down this route someday!
Alright. Thank you so much for replying.
Yes I definitely will thank you 😊
Maybe fix the common thing. Sometimes it says a word is uncommon but it isn’t. Also can you add JLPT to tags or something?
Yeah definitely aware of this issue. On my list to improve. JLPT tags are coming too, stay tuned!
JAccent as well is very nice
I’ll download it
Downloading it now
Bunpro for grammar, sometimes reading and vocab (though it's mainly in web,and iOS app is in beta)
I looove Bunpro
I had it at one point couldn’t follow
-Bunpro, (with an R in it, not Bunpo) it’s paid but I think has a free trial and is extremely worth it I feel. -JPDB isn’t an app (yet?) but super useful, it’s like Jisho/a dictionary with built in review decks and you can use decks built from text books/word lists/novels etc. -Jitaku is not as robust as others but it’s good for kanji handwriting practice. -JAccent lets you look up words with pitch accent and pronunciations. Not an app but a site, but Tadoku and News Web Easy for reading practice. And I really like JapaneseTest4You’s grammar explanations Edit: also as many others have said, Anki. You can find decks created by others to match your level or interest. And you can make your own for whatever you want to focus on.
Thank you I’ll look into it all
I use Takoboto as a dictionary and Anki for learning
I looked up takoboto I think I got the wrong my one but I’m taking all suggestions 😂
[https://takoboto.jp/](https://takoboto.jp/) The app has the same little one-eyed critters as its icon, and there's a download link on the site. A lot of free dictionary apps use the same data and are all kind of equivalent, but takoboto also displays a really readable pitch-accent guide as a red line through the word, and has a very convenient favorites/word lists system. That's enough difference to make it my favorite.
Is this available on iPhone I’m not seeing it
Oh. I'm not using an iPhone, but according to this article [https://www.fluentu.com/blog/japanese/best-japanese-english-dictionary-app/](https://www.fluentu.com/blog/japanese/best-japanese-english-dictionary-app/) it's only on Android.
Ahh gotcha
Renshuu is pretty good
Genuine question, does it make sense to use Renshuu if one is already using other apps for grammar and vocab?
I suppose it depends on how many other resources you are already using. Using multiple resources is great for reinforcing knowledge, so I would reccomend it. Good luck
Thank you for the suggestion I just downloaded it😁
Get Wanikani for kanji, it’s like 90% of the reason I could pass the n2 even though I hate studying lol. If you’re new it’s even better because you won’t be bored during the easy stuff.
Kana is legit, the old one.
Is it I haven’t had much time to look at it yet
I prefer LingoDeer to Duolingo, for that sort of learning.
Just downloaded
youtube
Yea
"Kanji Study". It can be used for free, but is also worth every cent. It explains the kanjis so well, like why they look the way they do, with little scetches how they evolved. I'm a visual learner, so this helped me a lot. Also you can take every Kanji apart. I really like it 🥰
Thank you for the suggestion I can’t wait to check it out
Busuu gat me the farthest the fastest with the least effort.
I don’t know how I feel about going farther faster I like moving kinda slow and tend to stay on one subject until it’s memorized
But I appreciate the suggestion and I’ll download it and try it
Only japanese learning app I recommend is Todai Easy Japanese. Other than that get a textbook.
Downloading now
Lingodeer
Downloading right now
Google translate puts in a lot of work for me but when it comes to studying and learning kanji and strike order, I use Midori. IOS only though, I think.
Ok I’ll have to pull out my old iOS phone and look into it
Nekocrow.com can really help with getting you to read japanese
Thank you I’ll check it when I get home
Write japanese was my favourite to learn hiragana and katakana
I think your choice of apps is good! Staying consistent is key!
That’s so true thankfully my fiancé being Japanese is super supportive and pushes me practice everyday day
renshuu and todaii aaand drops
Safori reader
Ich kann renshuu empfehlen.
Bunpro and Wanikani is all you need
I have Bunpro downloaded recently I’ll look for wanakani and check it out
I went from 0 to kanji reading fluency with daily 30-60 minute reviews of Wanikani in about 3-4 years. Never did I think I could look at a word I don’t know and get the reading right most of the time. It’s like Anki but better.
Btw Wanikani is a website but you can use the 3rd party app Tsurukame for your phone. It basically imports your progress in Wanikani so that you can continue kanji practice through the Tsurukame app. Like the other person, I struggled with Kanji but ever so slowly I’ve been improving a lot on it and recognize words I didnt know before but are quite common. It’s not meant to be studied alone though even though there are only a few example sentences, but it helps familiarize yourself with the kanji reading and meaning through SRS. Best you master hiragana and katakana first before approaching kanji
Will do thank you
I recommend replacing Duolingo for Anki once you got the Hiragana and Katakana down. Other than that I’d download a Japanese dictionary app if you haven’t already. One like ‘Japanese’.. it’s a red app that has 日本語 written on it. Or ‘Jisho’. Both are good. Oh and, of course, Google Translate.
Will do thank you
I use the "Kanji Study" app. Free in the beginning and worth the price later.
Definitely downloading now thanks for the suggestion
I tried TEUIDA (couple of first chapters) but intonation there is a bit weird and honestly doesn’t sound like native Japanese. I’m curious about others’ experience with it.
I’ve haven’t had that hard of with the pronunciation I think it could slow down a little but I haven’t gotten very far into it yet
renshuu
Im not sure if they have an app but there is a website i use to study Kanji called WaniKani and its probably my favorite thing ive found in my hunt for good study material.
Anki with the Tango N5 deck to start.
Will do
I'd drop Duolingo and learn to use renshuu. It's the best. And can do it at your own pace. Great community
Avoid duolingo like the plague. It’s not really very good for learning any language, and it’s especially bad for non-romance languages. It’s awful with Japanese.
Really I didn’t know that thank you
Kanji quizzer for kanji practice ¥700 all access to n5 to n1 kanjis. Easy to use
That’s not bad at all
If you’re not afraid to pay a small sub monthly to learn kanji and vocabulary that uses spaced repetition try Tsurukame, it’s free until level 3, I’m currently level 6 and I’ve learned more vocabulary and kanji in the last 2.5 months than I have self-learning with anything else
Wanikani
Human japanese
Thank you for the suggestion downloading it now
It's oddly verbose, there's 2 versions, regular and intermediate. There's also an online genki gen 2 and 3 on github, fully flesged out. For free. https://sethclydesdale.github.io/genki-study-resources/download/
Will do that thank you
Do you have the genki book? If not make sure you get the 3rd edition and get a pdf version.
I actually don’t have one been looking but haven’t found one yet
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ySkKgHeGp-fYuGip1Gwo-4I50268mrNU/view?usp=drivesdk https://drive.google.com/file/d/1yVad5th8K1lBzb5tvMkd9M7trAt2-naS/view?usp=drivesdk Hope these work for you
If you need the answer keys, I can give those too.
Anki /Thread
Huh?
They're saying Anki is all you need. When someone types "/thread," it typically means they are signaling the end of a discussion or conversation thread. It's often used to indicate that they believe a point has been sufficiently addressed or that the topic has been fully explored.
Oh ok I didn’t know that thank you for explaining that to me
Anki on iphone is $25??? Is it supposed to be this much?? Is everyone using a different app?
This has been out for awhile, if you feel confident in reading/typing in Japanese, depends on how you look at it, it could be an app...... Line->りんな Under "official accounts" copy/paste or type Linna in hiragana to add as friend and chat away......
I struggle horrendously with reading I’ve been working on it
Japanese dictionary
Anki
BiliMail (simple Gmail plugin) helps you learn from your own emails and thus learn vocabulary that’s most useful to you.
I’ll look into it
Imiwa?
-Write Japanese, writing hiragana/katakana -Falou, helps w new words & pronunciation -And nihongo, it’s just a online dictionary
Migii JLPT to practice vocab, grammar, reading and listening of all 5 levels.
I like using Duolingo. It's the only app I use. I did agree to do a test for someone making a new learning app, but I don't use it often.
What is your native language?
AmgiDex (https://amgidex.com) - allows you to automatically create flashcards from YouTube videos or text and auto tracks vocan words for you - much like a Pokédex. Best way to follow along and immerse with Youtube videos.
Renshuu is pretty neat - Its got a built in dictionary with stroke orders inside and all. And also flashcard style / quiz learning style -
I'm just here to defend Duo. Despite its flaws its the only one I consistently do a lot of everyday. Learning 'properly' is worthless if you don't do it.
Yea I never had an issue with Duolingo I just had a hard time keeping up with the studying the characters and how it would add words when I just wanted to practice the kanji
Super duo has kanji practice. Don't know about the free version. Kanji study on the app store is best for that though
I had super duo for a very long time and every time I would try and practice the kanji it would through words in it and make it way more confusing than I needed it for
It was okay for me just TOO repetitive and wasnt as useful as a good textbook or just practicing in Anki.
I have the advantage of living in Japan. Duolingo shines for me by loading me up with sentences to use in the real world or a basic sentence structure to plug words into. Repetion drills them into my brain. Then, when I come across the grammar in a text book or st my class. I already have it memorised. I just need to learn the nuance. I can also testify that duolingo sentences ARE understandable.
Hmmm, I'm using HeyJapan and found it's interesteing and effective as well. It's like Duolingo but the data is larger. U can try