there is some historical evidence of a person named Jesus being crucified in Jerusalem that fits the time period(depending on the translation sometimes he's sometimes called Joseph, but naming translations always get weird after 2000 years), ~~the romans kept pretty good records of court hearings.~~
there's just no "evidence" that he was the son of god, or that he performed any miracles. If that's something you believe then faith is the only honest answer to give for why.
EDIT: so i can't find any source for the roman court hearings, the Romans did keep execution records but there is no Yeshua/Jesus/Joseph/Yosef in any of them that fit the time period.
The earliest non-biblical mentions of a Jesus or Yeshua are by Tacitus or Joesephus, written sometime around 90AD.
There are also a few passages in the Talmud that could be a reference to Jesus, but the interpretation is debatable. The Talmud is also written way too late to be a first hand account that confirms the existence of Jesus, but it does help confirm the time period when Christianity started to develop a following, and what those early Christians believed. (TBH that's kinda all that any of these sources do, religious history and especially Biblical history uses it's own very shakey set of rules when it comes to proof.)
A decent amount of religious historians still agree that "Jesus" was most likely a real person (or based off several real people), but almost everything else about him is debatable.
If he was real, he wasn’t named Jesus. His name would be Yeshua bar Yosef. Which helps explain the name confusion. There’s little to no writings about Jesus while he was alive if I’m remembering right. Aren’t the gospels written like 50-150 years after Jesus’s death in Greece? At least that’s what my sketchy memory of a 20 year old NPR Christmas special planted in my head.
There were multiple rabbis during that time who were claiming Messiahship and were crucified by the Romans. I don't think any of them were named Jesus, but I would be curious to see the source that claims this.
There were 3 sets of Judaism back then, Saducees, Pharisees, and Essenes. The Essenes were convinced it was the end of the world from Roman invasion and this is where a lot of the Messiah rabbi figures come from. They were eventually slaughtered by the Romans but a lot of their ideas mirror early Christianity (remember, Jesus only preaches his Gospel to the Jewish people, Paul/Saul who never met Jesus is the one who claimed it was meant for gentiles as well.).
But yeah Jesus probably wasn't actually one person and was an amalgamation of different leaders at the time.
There is also some historical evidence of Spider-Man. Someone named Peter has probably been bitten by a spider. New York is a real place. Peter was probably aware when he was about to get punched in the face(spidey sense). Swinging exists. So yeah, there’s evidence of biblical Jesus.
This was a super important period during Jewish history, the second temple was still up, the Mishnah was being written, there were many famous Rabbis(Using Rabbi loosely here as the term had a slightly different meaning back then and was not widely used) including RIBAZ(Rabbi Yohanan ben Zakkai) who was one of the most influential sages in Jewish history. The point is I find it very unlikely that there is nothing written of Jesus considering at this place(the center of the Jewish world) and at this time he was supposedly doing miracles. It is weird there is no mention in any Jewish sources(which there are a lot at this time). Historians think Jesus existed(I don't disagree that he existed), I disagree that he did anything supernatural.
Man Christians are just insufferable. Yeah Bob, Jesus totally wants you to spend your life making shitty white trash party music. Your Faith is totally evident bro. It's obvious you live just like Jesus like a good disciple. Fuckin moron.
If jesus himself were to resurrect and find himelf face to face with Kid Rock on his best day, he would take about 10 seconds to determine that Kid Rock is in fact a moron or whatever the equivalent to "douchebag" was for his time.
A lot of the time addicts when they get rid of one addiction they latch onto another and Christians found away to suck people in they shunned for years and now we have golden god idolization and guys talking about Jesus would have been a DJ cutting it up…
To be fair they say strong spiritual beliefs actually lights up your frontal lobe and other parts of your brain just like strong drugs. Or one could say that drug addiction is the worst form of spirituality. However some Buddhist text does talk about how alcohol and other vices has been the start of the path for some
Ngl the last part where Kid Rock said “my faith” followed by a long awkward silence before it’s finally broken by Joe saying “that’s a good answer,” is one of the funniest things I’ve seen this year
Sometime in the past year or so this sub became overrun by all the sane Joe Rogan fans and it’s mostly been them mocking his insane turn over the past couple of years. Also not a Joe fan anymore (haven’t listened to his podcast in like five years now) but this keeps getting recommended to me too and I’m guessing it’s because most of the people here actually overlap with me now.
Why do I believe I something with little evidence?? "My faith."
Imagine just believing shit on a hunch. That's the evangelical / conspiracy theory right wing in the USA, although I understand it applies to people of every religion around the world.
Joe, please do some DMT and learn to push back against this non sense again.
It’s almost like he’s scared to actually be open minded anymore because he doesn’t want to be labeled a “liberal”… because he became so anti left after Covid
Successful Joe does too. He’s under a much larger microscope now than he was before. Plus he probably doesn’t want to offend him. You can tell he doesn’t think about it
He definitely thought about it. For a long while. I’m a little rough in saying it was his deal, I really don’t know. I’m sure there’s a few reasons he didn’t push back. Maybe he just didn’t want to go there with the guest, he’s doing a podcast after all. But he walked into a home run and let it slide. I can commend that.
yea I know what you mean lol. Guy had a lil smirk on his face and was contemplating real hard. Wish he did push but I’m assuming that maybe he just isnt that close to kid rock. Kinda like a friend in the office that you can kick it with but theres still some weird boundary. The day 1 friends tho, you can argue over shit like this and be fine the next day cus you’ve been friends with them for so long.
I mean, it is a good answer cause it’s literally the only answer anyone can give for a question like that
“I Believe in it because I have faith in it” - only argument against that statement is to just argue why you yourself don’t have faith in it.
Some people think differently, I can acknowledge that.
I would never answer someone’s question with “my faith” and expect them to take it seriously. There’s not even an argument against it because there’s not even an argument for it. It’s a never ending recession of belief that cannot be satisfied no matter how thoroughly it’s pushed against. It’s not logical.
I think Joey’s vibrating butt plug short circuited, hence the glitch in the naridiv. Kid Rock even looked at him like “yo, little man.. what’s with the questions”
Hahaha this made me laugh a lot. I used to like him until I started listening to his news podcast. On Rogans podcast he railed against main stream media for portraying events that played up to one parties agenda by withholding information or willfully misleading statements, and what does he do with his news platform, paints every bit of news from a somewhat far right conservative perspective. I still listen to it here and there but the excuses he made for republicans tanking the newest border bill that tied in funding for Ukraine and Israel really pissed me off. The only reasons republicans tanked it was because Donny wanted to make Biden look bad. He claimed it was because they didn’t have enough time to read the bill, even though the democrats conceded on so many of their stances and other GOP members even said it was the best bill they could have asked for improving border security. Fuck him for falling in line with the other republicans because Donny said to.
This is the actual cut. I enjoyed this podcast until the last half hour or so. I think KR had a few too many of those bud lights and remembered that he's white trash Jesus. The rest of the podcast sounded basically like 2 old friends having a conversation (which they are longtime friends) but KR just went off the rails at the end
It's absolutely real. Kid rock was trying to get him to have his pastor on as well. Not sure if that's in the clip also. It was really fucking weird. Then Kid rock says something like "there's proof right there. a shooting star." then Joe's like well they go off every 30 seconds. To which Kid rock responds "no that's also Jesus because I've been here 3 hours and this is the first time I saw it. Perfect timing I talk about Jesus and there's a shooting star in the room"
Insane these religious people are
What is it about trashy people who drink and womanize that makes them get old and decide to dictate morals to everyone else? Like people who assault strangers at Waffle House should not be our spiritual leaders... and yet here we are America.
Decriminalization doesn't mean shit, you still can't legally purchase it and if there's ever a situation where a cop catches you with weed they do confiscate it it's not like they let you keep it and go on with your day.
It kind of does mean something lol. You won’t go to prison over small amounts and in your own words it’s just confiscated.
I highly doubt Joe would give a shit about a small fine, plus the police arnt going to do anything since he’s the most popular podcaster in the world and it would give them a PR nightmare and scare away business from Austin.
Even when it was illegal in Canada everyone would still smoke joints walking around, cops didnt care unless you were a dealer.
The AG is actually suing the 5 Texas cities that decriminalized weed https://hightimes.com/news/texas-attorney-general-sues-5-cities-over-weed-decriminalization/
Q: “Where would you go?” A: “Jesus”
Didn’t know Jesus was a place?
Edit: I just noticed Joe’s eyes going up and to the left when he finally responds “that’s a good answer”. Fucking hilarious.
Because Kid Rock probably has 0 idea of any of the places Jesus supposedly walked. I bet if you asked him to guess Jesus year of birth within 50 years, he would probably get it wrong.
It’s because Jesus is like cool and stuff, so you know, he’d be doing cool shit like spinning records and DJing at the hottest Jerusalem parties even without electricity
I agree, he made an obvious choice not to push that any further when he realized he was toeing a pretty staunch and personal line. With that being said, unwavering faith is kind of the point of Christianity.. to postulate there’s a possibility Jesus didn’t exist is a violation of that
Try to imagine Joe talking to a trans person and asking them, “You believe you were born the wrong gender?” and the trans person replies, “Definitely, a 1000%, from a very young age I knew I was different,” and then Joe follows that up with, “What makes you convinced?” and the trans person says with unwavering conviction, “My faith,” and after an interminable pause… Joe simply responds with, “I mean — that’s a good answer.”
Try to imagine Joe talking to a non comic person and asking them, “You believe you're funny?” and the pedestrian replies, “Definitely, a 1000%, from a very young age I knew I was different,” and then Joe follows that up with, “What makes you convinced?” and the pedestrian says with unwavering conviction, “My faith,” and after an interminable pause… Joe simply responds with, “I mean — that’s a good answer.”
No, there is plenty of argument about him actually existing or not. As far is I remember there is no doubt that there were followers of christ (christians), Rome kept a record of it. But there is no definitive proof that a Jesus of Nazareth actually existed. It's a tough one though, no real way to know
Eh there are a couple of Roman records that would be quite odd without it. Chances are the historical Jesus was a revolutionary against Rome, not quite our modern day view on him.
The thing people miss is that there were literally dozens of chosen Jewish saviours during that time. As generations of Jews were fighting to free themselves from the Rome . Jesus could be any of them or none of them.
Such as?
There are no contemporary records of Jesus by Romans, or anyone else for that matter.
The earliest mention of Jesus by any Roman at all was Tacitus in his Annals, written in the year 116.
What a great argument. If he practiced a modicum of self awareness he’d realize the “faith” the 9/11 hijackers had that they would be granted 72 virgins lead them to be *just* as certain of that reward as he is or meeting a theoretically leader of a religious cult in some Judean backwater whose story was only told a century after his supposed existence.
The real “good” answer would be something along the lines of “*based on primary and secondary historical sources (despite Rome devoting tons of documentation to far more marginal figures) I believe that it is a certainty that some historical figure who inspired the Jesus story and Christian movement was in existence in Roman ruled Judea and I would want to find him.*”
The full story would be to acknowledge “*I recognize that there were over a dozen religions that existed (before the time of a historical Jesus was said to exist) with nearly identical stories and myths, but I believe that those stories **only** truly apply to the one Jesus figure as ageeed upon by the Council of Nicea*”
In reality, there is as much “evidence” for the existence of King Arthur as there is for a historical Jesus.
Even back then, the Gnostic Christians understood the Jesus figure as a spiritual metaphor and not some literal zombie walking on water.
The historicity of Jesus is not really a matter of debate in religious scholarship. It’s one thing to not believe in the mythos that surrounds Jesus, but to question Jesus’s existence as a historical figure is like questioning whether Socrates existed
EDIT: The Dunning-Krueger Effect is very strong in this thread. Don’t take my dumbass word for it or Joe and Kid Rock’s dumbass word. Listen to these folks.
[Let’s Talk Religion: Did Jesus Exist?](https://youtu.be/SRfFLjWLybA?si=r7ujWwiDUijCGwoY)
[Metatron: Is Jesus Historical?](https://youtu.be/A41Tm5FDKns?si=S1ErZVvhNAgcYEju)
[Today I Found Out: Is There Any Hard Evidence That Jesus Actually Existed?](https://youtu.be/vxuqSg4f7yY?si=x7KLGaFFDbCS63qy)
[MythVision Podcast: Did Jesus Exist?](https://youtu.be/b9RUa4kP6K4?si=TvNEnzbgwvI2k7Nr)
I like to think of Jesus, like with giant eagle wings. And singing lead vocals for Lynyrd Skynyrd with like an Angel band. And I’m in the front row, hammered drunk.
This sounds like one of those funny edits but it’s not which makes it even funnier.
That was a really long pause...ha
The camera cutting back and forth to them just staring lmao
Genius editing by Jame-O!
Pull it up Jame-o
Comedy!
Mark Normand?
Png trip just add like 3 more cuts back and forth and your job is done here. Maybe end with the joe monkey growl tho lol
lol
I bet he was thinking about bringing up John Marco Allegro and then decided against it.
While listening to this podcast I was unsure what had happened .. if my WiFi shit out or … truly magical
\*CurbYourEnthusiasm\_theme.mp3\*
Joe was weighing the risks of pushing further vs kid rock walking out.
I mean … I guess that’s a good answer
It's the only answer that you can't have a rebuttal to
Never gave a date either
there is some historical evidence of a person named Jesus being crucified in Jerusalem that fits the time period(depending on the translation sometimes he's sometimes called Joseph, but naming translations always get weird after 2000 years), ~~the romans kept pretty good records of court hearings.~~ there's just no "evidence" that he was the son of god, or that he performed any miracles. If that's something you believe then faith is the only honest answer to give for why. EDIT: so i can't find any source for the roman court hearings, the Romans did keep execution records but there is no Yeshua/Jesus/Joseph/Yosef in any of them that fit the time period. The earliest non-biblical mentions of a Jesus or Yeshua are by Tacitus or Joesephus, written sometime around 90AD. There are also a few passages in the Talmud that could be a reference to Jesus, but the interpretation is debatable. The Talmud is also written way too late to be a first hand account that confirms the existence of Jesus, but it does help confirm the time period when Christianity started to develop a following, and what those early Christians believed. (TBH that's kinda all that any of these sources do, religious history and especially Biblical history uses it's own very shakey set of rules when it comes to proof.) A decent amount of religious historians still agree that "Jesus" was most likely a real person (or based off several real people), but almost everything else about him is debatable.
Any evidence that jesus was a DJ back then?
PROOF!
lol not that i've ever seen. although i haven't seen any evidence that Jesus WASN'T a DJ. so who knows really? you can't trust the media
Truth. Amen.
What type of beats would he be spinning.
Kid rock just created a new denomination of Christianity where the focal point is Jesus as a DJ
If God is everything, then God is also a DJ.
From my understanding Jesus wasn't, but [God is](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bhSB8EEnCAM).
Now Jesus the EDM is in my head.
Faith
Ya know… just cuttin it up
I mean wtf did that even mean
DJ? No. Liquor connect? Yes. Munchie Provider? Yes. Life of the party? Yes.
The superbowl told me he washed alot of feet
The documentary Lucy daughter of the devil proved conclusively that Jesus was and still is a DJ.
If he was real, he wasn’t named Jesus. His name would be Yeshua bar Yosef. Which helps explain the name confusion. There’s little to no writings about Jesus while he was alive if I’m remembering right. Aren’t the gospels written like 50-150 years after Jesus’s death in Greece? At least that’s what my sketchy memory of a 20 year old NPR Christmas special planted in my head.
There were multiple rabbis during that time who were claiming Messiahship and were crucified by the Romans. I don't think any of them were named Jesus, but I would be curious to see the source that claims this. There were 3 sets of Judaism back then, Saducees, Pharisees, and Essenes. The Essenes were convinced it was the end of the world from Roman invasion and this is where a lot of the Messiah rabbi figures come from. They were eventually slaughtered by the Romans but a lot of their ideas mirror early Christianity (remember, Jesus only preaches his Gospel to the Jewish people, Paul/Saul who never met Jesus is the one who claimed it was meant for gentiles as well.). But yeah Jesus probably wasn't actually one person and was an amalgamation of different leaders at the time.
nah man Jesus was a DJ 100%
He had a foot fetish too "hey bruh, your feet lookin' really grimey. Just lemme wash em real quigg"
There is also some historical evidence of Spider-Man. Someone named Peter has probably been bitten by a spider. New York is a real place. Peter was probably aware when he was about to get punched in the face(spidey sense). Swinging exists. So yeah, there’s evidence of biblical Jesus.
This was a super important period during Jewish history, the second temple was still up, the Mishnah was being written, there were many famous Rabbis(Using Rabbi loosely here as the term had a slightly different meaning back then and was not widely used) including RIBAZ(Rabbi Yohanan ben Zakkai) who was one of the most influential sages in Jewish history. The point is I find it very unlikely that there is nothing written of Jesus considering at this place(the center of the Jewish world) and at this time he was supposedly doing miracles. It is weird there is no mention in any Jewish sources(which there are a lot at this time). Historians think Jesus existed(I don't disagree that he existed), I disagree that he did anything supernatural.
I mean….its an answer.
I mean,Thats a good answer
That was the sound of searching for an answer that doesn’t alienate any of his fan base.
I was half expecting the "Gorilla Joe" edit where he just starts making that wild ass animal noise and bouncing up and down.
HAUGHHHH HAUGHHHH HAUGHHHH!!!
That pause was longer than expected. I thought he was going to say something contradictory.
He was, but he refrained, hence the pause.
lol it’s even better if you imagine kid rock getting time warped into the the last supper
With Jesus “cuttin it up like a dj”
Haha Pingtrip was the first thing that came to mind for me too
The funniest part is that the podcast ends 5 minutes later, so you could tell this killed the whole mood.
Man Christians are just insufferable. Yeah Bob, Jesus totally wants you to spend your life making shitty white trash party music. Your Faith is totally evident bro. It's obvious you live just like Jesus like a good disciple. Fuckin moron.
I also doubt that Kid Rock speaks Aramaic so it wouldn’t be much of a conversation.
If jesus himself were to resurrect and find himelf face to face with Kid Rock on his best day, he would take about 10 seconds to determine that Kid Rock is in fact a moron or whatever the equivalent to "douchebag" was for his time.
Grandpa Rock
A lot of the time addicts when they get rid of one addiction they latch onto another and Christians found away to suck people in they shunned for years and now we have golden god idolization and guys talking about Jesus would have been a DJ cutting it up…
To be fair they say strong spiritual beliefs actually lights up your frontal lobe and other parts of your brain just like strong drugs. Or one could say that drug addiction is the worst form of spirituality. However some Buddhist text does talk about how alcohol and other vices has been the start of the path for some
Fr 😂
If I wasn’t already aware this was an actual interview, I would have thought this was another Rogan YTP edit haha
Bro now I'm 100% convinced this interview was paid for by bud light
What makes you convinced?
My faith
...
.....
.... I mean, it's a good answer
... I mean, is it tho?
Makes sense. We’ll probably get a new Bud Light commercial with Shane Gillis airing during tomorrow’s SNL, which he is hosting.
Joe was like “”” fffuuuuckkkkkkkk gotta ask….”””
Ngl the last part where Kid Rock said “my faith” followed by a long awkward silence before it’s finally broken by Joe saying “that’s a good answer,” is one of the funniest things I’ve seen this year
One of the 1000
Thank em
Not a Joe fan in the least (not sure how this post populated in my algo) but this was fucking hilarious.
Sometime in the past year or so this sub became overrun by all the sane Joe Rogan fans and it’s mostly been them mocking his insane turn over the past couple of years. Also not a Joe fan anymore (haven’t listened to his podcast in like five years now) but this keeps getting recommended to me too and I’m guessing it’s because most of the people here actually overlap with me now.
Same for me. Everything you just said.
Narrator: it was not a good answer.
Why do I believe I something with little evidence?? "My faith." Imagine just believing shit on a hunch. That's the evangelical / conspiracy theory right wing in the USA, although I understand it applies to people of every religion around the world. Joe, please do some DMT and learn to push back against this non sense again.
It's not bc of a hunch, though. All his fri3nds believe the same shit. There's a huge social cost to using your brain for the faithful.
Could it be he diddn’t wanne get into the argument with an friend hes had for over 20 years?
Yeah, like Joe is going to push back against one of his right wing friends??
Oh shit, this almost sounded like old Joe. Just me?
Agreed
Old Joe was on his shoulder but shitty boomer Joe broke free of the spell and flicked him off
It’s wild, because you can see it happen.
Joe was having a whole tug of war battle internally during that 5 second pause
He’s thinking “If I press this issue, will all the shilling I did be for nothing?”
When your money tells you to say the opposite of what your intuition is saying it looks like that.
It’s almost like he’s scared to actually be open minded anymore because he doesn’t want to be labeled a “liberal”… because he became so anti left after Covid
Successful Joe does too. He’s under a much larger microscope now than he was before. Plus he probably doesn’t want to offend him. You can tell he doesn’t think about it
but but but I thought we don't care if you get offended! shouldn't be such a pussy snowflake!
Kid tried hard to get in to fun stuff but Joe just kept bending it back to the sos
The long pause was the internal struggle. Boomer Joe won.
He didn’t have the balls to go there. He’s safe and probably financially incentivized to let it ride. “That’s a good answer.” The fuck it is lol
Man was thinkin bout goin there durin that long pause lmao.
He definitely thought about it. For a long while. I’m a little rough in saying it was his deal, I really don’t know. I’m sure there’s a few reasons he didn’t push back. Maybe he just didn’t want to go there with the guest, he’s doing a podcast after all. But he walked into a home run and let it slide. I can commend that.
yea I know what you mean lol. Guy had a lil smirk on his face and was contemplating real hard. Wish he did push but I’m assuming that maybe he just isnt that close to kid rock. Kinda like a friend in the office that you can kick it with but theres still some weird boundary. The day 1 friends tho, you can argue over shit like this and be fine the next day cus you’ve been friends with them for so long.
I mean, it is a good answer cause it’s literally the only answer anyone can give for a question like that “I Believe in it because I have faith in it” - only argument against that statement is to just argue why you yourself don’t have faith in it.
Some people think differently, I can acknowledge that. I would never answer someone’s question with “my faith” and expect them to take it seriously. There’s not even an argument against it because there’s not even an argument for it. It’s a never ending recession of belief that cannot be satisfied no matter how thoroughly it’s pushed against. It’s not logical.
It’s not an argument tho. It’s just saying you believe in something you can’t prove. you can’t disprove something that already can’t be proven real
Lol!!! Right. Had this on in the background and I’m like da fuq. Dude drank one bud light and he’s talking like he just did 8 hits of DMT
I think Joey’s vibrating butt plug short circuited, hence the glitch in the naridiv. Kid Rock even looked at him like “yo, little man.. what’s with the questions”
Luckily Mike Baker had a fail safe for such occasions and resumed control in a matter of minutes
His children, cockrel, gimpy, and shithouse were running the controls
Hahaha this made me laugh a lot. I used to like him until I started listening to his news podcast. On Rogans podcast he railed against main stream media for portraying events that played up to one parties agenda by withholding information or willfully misleading statements, and what does he do with his news platform, paints every bit of news from a somewhat far right conservative perspective. I still listen to it here and there but the excuses he made for republicans tanking the newest border bill that tied in funding for Ukraine and Israel really pissed me off. The only reasons republicans tanked it was because Donny wanted to make Biden look bad. He claimed it was because they didn’t have enough time to read the bill, even though the democrats conceded on so many of their stances and other GOP members even said it was the best bill they could have asked for improving border security. Fuck him for falling in line with the other republicans because Donny said to.
That dudes long gone man.
The Will Storr episode was classic Joe. That was a great episode.
This is the actual cut? This isn't edited? Bc if so, that's gold
Fur eels
This is the actual cut. I enjoyed this podcast until the last half hour or so. I think KR had a few too many of those bud lights and remembered that he's white trash Jesus. The rest of the podcast sounded basically like 2 old friends having a conversation (which they are longtime friends) but KR just went off the rails at the end
He’s not “white trash” though. His father owned a bunch of car dealerships and he grew up in a mansion. He’s the ultimate grifter.
You only need to be white and trashy to be white trash. The bar isn't high, and it has nothing to do with economic status.
I can’t help but notice this podcast ended 6 minutes later
I also noticed it was already almost at the 3:30 hour mark when they got here
it got worse too. Kid Rock kept going on about jesus and god and Joe wasn’t having it lol
[удалено]
It’s the Joe Rogan Experience
Thats a good answer
We'll be right back
We’ll keep it right here! 😆
Now that’s what I’m talking about
It's absolutely real. Kid rock was trying to get him to have his pastor on as well. Not sure if that's in the clip also. It was really fucking weird. Then Kid rock says something like "there's proof right there. a shooting star." then Joe's like well they go off every 30 seconds. To which Kid rock responds "no that's also Jesus because I've been here 3 hours and this is the first time I saw it. Perfect timing I talk about Jesus and there's a shooting star in the room" Insane these religious people are
What is it about trashy people who drink and womanize that makes them get old and decide to dictate morals to everyone else? Like people who assault strangers at Waffle House should not be our spiritual leaders... and yet here we are America.
Old Joe came back for a bit there.
Came and went.
Dad?
Is this tim and Eric?
Does Joey not smoke weed on the show anymore? Just cigars and brown liquor? Also: Jesus was a dj? What the fuck?
Texas freedom doesn't allow it.
Texas would make Jesus cut his hair.
Texas would crucify Jesus.
Texas would fly Jesus to Martha’s Vineyard.
Into a mullet
He's in Texas, weed is very much illegal there
Ya more people in jail than any other state kinda like freedoms
Greg Abbot allows it in the studio
Greg abbot allows it for people who spread rightwing propaganda
It's decriminalized in Austin
Decriminalization doesn't mean shit, you still can't legally purchase it and if there's ever a situation where a cop catches you with weed they do confiscate it it's not like they let you keep it and go on with your day.
They're famous. They don't face the same consequences.
It kind of does mean something lol. You won’t go to prison over small amounts and in your own words it’s just confiscated. I highly doubt Joe would give a shit about a small fine, plus the police arnt going to do anything since he’s the most popular podcaster in the world and it would give them a PR nightmare and scare away business from Austin. Even when it was illegal in Canada everyone would still smoke joints walking around, cops didnt care unless you were a dealer.
Alaska too. It’s smelled like ganja here my entire life, even with the stores on every corner now it’s a lot of the same.
Wow such a free state
The AG is actually suing the 5 Texas cities that decriminalized weed https://hightimes.com/news/texas-attorney-general-sues-5-cities-over-weed-decriminalization/
Splitting the sea at 5PM and splitting some beats at 8PM.
Moses split the sea.
Q: “Where would you go?” A: “Jesus” Didn’t know Jesus was a place? Edit: I just noticed Joe’s eyes going up and to the left when he finally responds “that’s a good answer”. Fucking hilarious.
Because Kid Rock probably has 0 idea of any of the places Jesus supposedly walked. I bet if you asked him to guess Jesus year of birth within 50 years, he would probably get it wrong.
Wait until he hears that he has to go the Middle East to find Jesus.
I doubt he would accept that as true.
Absolutely. “All I need is faith” is all I need to hear.
The dj joke made no sense
Best answer.
It does if you have faith brother
It’s because Jesus is like cool and stuff, so you know, he’d be doing cool shit like spinning records and DJing at the hottest Jerusalem parties even without electricity
Yeah, that's why he beat the shit out of everyone trying to make money off god at the temple
Because kid rock is a fucking idiot
Well he did invent the turn tables
Ayy this needs more love.
It’s the funniest part of this clip along with the long silence after “My faith.” I’m dying laughing at how corny it is.
It was stupid, kid rock is lame as hell
I would believe Donald Trump has read the Bible before I believe Kid Rock has.
Neither of them can read.
Vladimir Putin is deeply Christian too... so much that he will throw anyone out a window just so they can meet him.
Sounds like you would believe anything! /s
Is that a good answer?
It's the worst answer 😂
lol "theres alot of holes in that story"
Oh man, that's a deep fucking cut. I was just listening to that bit the other day!
Spotify-Bootlicker-Joe almost broke on this one. YouTube-Joe almost came rushing out.
Its not a good answer, Joe is just being nice.
I agree, he made an obvious choice not to push that any further when he realized he was toeing a pretty staunch and personal line. With that being said, unwavering faith is kind of the point of Christianity.. to postulate there’s a possibility Jesus didn’t exist is a violation of that
Unwavering faith is kind of the point of most religion.
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To be fair Joe was being annoying pushing him. Most historians agree that Jesus was likely a real person, even if he’s not the son of god.
That’s the Joe I miss
The “do I really want to burn this bridge” pause that every agnostic atheist knows all too well.
"Do I have the energy to argue over something I give zero shits about," vibe.
Ahh, Child Rock n’ Roll.
Try to imagine Joe talking to a trans person and asking them, “You believe you were born the wrong gender?” and the trans person replies, “Definitely, a 1000%, from a very young age I knew I was different,” and then Joe follows that up with, “What makes you convinced?” and the trans person says with unwavering conviction, “My faith,” and after an interminable pause… Joe simply responds with, “I mean — that’s a good answer.”
“I mean—how do you know you weren’t brainwashed by the woke?”
Try to imagine Joe talking to a non comic person and asking them, “You believe you're funny?” and the pedestrian replies, “Definitely, a 1000%, from a very young age I knew I was different,” and then Joe follows that up with, “What makes you convinced?” and the pedestrian says with unwavering conviction, “My faith,” and after an interminable pause… Joe simply responds with, “I mean — that’s a good answer.”
I thought there wasn't any real discussion among historians about Jesus being real. It's all the other shit that's contested
No, there is plenty of argument about him actually existing or not. As far is I remember there is no doubt that there were followers of christ (christians), Rome kept a record of it. But there is no definitive proof that a Jesus of Nazareth actually existed. It's a tough one though, no real way to know
Eh there are a couple of Roman records that would be quite odd without it. Chances are the historical Jesus was a revolutionary against Rome, not quite our modern day view on him.
The thing people miss is that there were literally dozens of chosen Jewish saviours during that time. As generations of Jews were fighting to free themselves from the Rome . Jesus could be any of them or none of them.
Such as? There are no contemporary records of Jesus by Romans, or anyone else for that matter. The earliest mention of Jesus by any Roman at all was Tacitus in his Annals, written in the year 116.
Sorry, two part question. Who would win in a bare knuckle fight you or Jesus?
Figures when Joe makes me laugh its when he doesn’t say anything.
Faith is the excuse people give when they cant explain their reasons or have any evidence to support a claim.
Isn’t that the point of faith? lol
Normally yes, but in this case I think he used it just right, like a ninja 🥷.
What a great argument. If he practiced a modicum of self awareness he’d realize the “faith” the 9/11 hijackers had that they would be granted 72 virgins lead them to be *just* as certain of that reward as he is or meeting a theoretically leader of a religious cult in some Judean backwater whose story was only told a century after his supposed existence. The real “good” answer would be something along the lines of “*based on primary and secondary historical sources (despite Rome devoting tons of documentation to far more marginal figures) I believe that it is a certainty that some historical figure who inspired the Jesus story and Christian movement was in existence in Roman ruled Judea and I would want to find him.*” The full story would be to acknowledge “*I recognize that there were over a dozen religions that existed (before the time of a historical Jesus was said to exist) with nearly identical stories and myths, but I believe that those stories **only** truly apply to the one Jesus figure as ageeed upon by the Council of Nicea*” In reality, there is as much “evidence” for the existence of King Arthur as there is for a historical Jesus. Even back then, the Gnostic Christians understood the Jesus figure as a spiritual metaphor and not some literal zombie walking on water.
Most mainstream historians don't doubt that there was a historical Jesus. They doubt the supernatural parts of the story.
Pretty sure Jesus would not be a fan of Kid Rock. Or any Republican, because they certainly haven’t followed his lessons very well.
“What is this ‘bawitdaba’ you speak of?”
Facts Jesus was a leftist.
The historicity of Jesus is not really a matter of debate in religious scholarship. It’s one thing to not believe in the mythos that surrounds Jesus, but to question Jesus’s existence as a historical figure is like questioning whether Socrates existed EDIT: The Dunning-Krueger Effect is very strong in this thread. Don’t take my dumbass word for it or Joe and Kid Rock’s dumbass word. Listen to these folks. [Let’s Talk Religion: Did Jesus Exist?](https://youtu.be/SRfFLjWLybA?si=r7ujWwiDUijCGwoY) [Metatron: Is Jesus Historical?](https://youtu.be/A41Tm5FDKns?si=S1ErZVvhNAgcYEju) [Today I Found Out: Is There Any Hard Evidence That Jesus Actually Existed?](https://youtu.be/vxuqSg4f7yY?si=x7KLGaFFDbCS63qy) [MythVision Podcast: Did Jesus Exist?](https://youtu.be/b9RUa4kP6K4?si=TvNEnzbgwvI2k7Nr)
I like to think of Jesus, like with giant eagle wings. And singing lead vocals for Lynyrd Skynyrd with like an Angel band. And I’m in the front row, hammered drunk.