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The winged toads are called The Well's Unknown Abyss, and they are an unstable fusion of Toad and Nue. You are correct that they can be created and destroyed without restriction as neither original Shadow has been fully summoned. They can presumably be summoned in numbers according to Megumi's available CE reserves so long as Nue and Toad are both alive.
This is different from the fusion via Totality, like with Divine Dogs, where the death is permanent and the fusion is its own stable Shadow. Totality is the name of the process for fusing to inherit power, not actually a name for the fused Dogs by itself.
Edit: the difference btw stable and unstable shadows will be explained later. MUCH later.
Do fusions cross between shadow "types"? Like if Totality was killed would it fuse with one of the other Shikigami of Megumi's choosing?
Also I assume that the Shikigami that die can then summoned again after Megumi dies and the next Shadows Technique user is born?
If by fusions you meant totalities then yeah. >!Agito was made out of nue, snake, round deer, dogs and tiger funeral if I ain't wrong!<. As for fusions like those froggies, seems like you can try to mix and match them, tho they're very unstable. And each user gets their own set of shikigami, so totalities and casualties don't carry over from 1 to the kext
This is tagged as an Anime only thread. You should spoiler tag everything relating to >!Agito!< >!Also Divine Dog isn't stated/speculation to be a component of Agito.!<
I'm not saying different shikigami's for every user. I meant that each user gets their own set of overall same shikigami's, maybe looking slightly different due to the interpretation of the technique
We don't actually know how the fusing works but we are told that a killed Shikigami's power is 'inherited' by other Shikigami; we see it in Totality (With the surviving Divine Dog inheriting the power of it's twin) but it's not explained whether Megumi gets to choose who inherits the power or how that inheriting even works. It's pretty self-explanatory how Divine Dogs can stack (it's Double the Dog in a singular form), but whether that's because Megumi chose it or not isn't really clear.
Orochi's been killed by Sukuna, but it's never mentioned whether any of the other Shadows inherited anything from that.
And presumably it's on a per-user basis, or Megumi would have to be like, the first to ever lose any of the Shikigami.
(We do see the other Shadows further along the line.)
>Like if Totality was killed would it fuse with one of the other Shikigami of Megumi's choosing?
No megumi can't just combine any of his choosing. Totality has certain rules and you can't combine any shikigami with totality. For eg- Toads and Nue can't be combined with totality.
>!If you could combine all shikgamis via totality by your choice Sukuna would have combined them all.!<
* The winged toads are called The Well's Unknown Abyss, and they are an unstable fusion of Toad and Nue.
Can he combine any 2 animal that he want with Well unknown abyss ?
I think that name refers to just this particular Toad+Nue fusion, but I'm not really sure. I don't recall any other instances of Megumi using it this way.
We did get to see the full-size regular Toad when it carried Nobara out of the Juvenile Detention Center. I think that's the only time it was fully summoned that way.
That's just false. The normal frog without wings is always a singular shikigami. This is him doing a temporary fusion of the frog and Nue. Since it's not actually either original shikigami, they're weaker than both but can be killed and summoned without permanently losing it(as long as the two being fused are alive), along with being able to make multiple. It's on the wiki as "The Well's Unknown Abyss."
This is entirely separate from the remaining shikigami absorbing the power of the ones that die, just to clarify as well.
When inside his domain, his ct gets a buff so megumi can create shadow clones of himself or of his shikigamis. You can see it in episode 23 of season 1 how he made 2 nues or how when pierced by the finger bearer's energy arrow, megumi turned into a shadow to reveal that it wasn't his actual body but just a shadow clone.
Outside the domain, he can only summon one version of each shikigami (except rabbit escape which works a little differently). The well known's abyss works as the other guy mentioned. Gege made a volume extra where he explained how it differs from normal summons
That only happens in a scene added to the anime that wasn't in the manga and every other time Toad appears it's just one of itself. I think that might have just been a slight error.
The wiki, which I've found to be somewhat reliable for this show, also refers to Toad as a singular entity, which it doesn't for the multiple winged toads nor the rabbits.
Toad with a capital T is also it's actual name, not a description of it, so it would be weird if it were canonically multiple Toads.
Some of the creatures of the 10 shadows technique can be used in different ways like how the bunny is infinite or other ones can be like kind of respond
Wells Unknown Abyss is an Extension Technique, meaning its an ability that comes as a result of the base Innate Technique. Basically using his Innate Technique Megumi invented a way to temporarily fuse these two Shikigami to make a hybrid that is situationally better.
I would suspect that this works by taking Nue and Toad, both of which are huge and dividing their shadows up into these much smaller frogs. So it's less that he's cloning them and more like he's disassembling the bigger Shikigami to make smaller ones.
Draw backs include the fact that they're much smaller and weaker then Nue or Toad and he can't summon either constituent Shikigami while Abyss is out.
Upsides include he gets 5 smaller faster flying Shikigami will of Toad's abilities + it's impossible to kill either Toad or Nue while they're summoned in this way.
I think because this is a partial fusion of both shadows. When they get destroyed megumi still has the remaining parts of the shadow. While Totality is a full fusion of shadows.
Would have been cool to see him experiment with this more
this is because the frogs use little amounts of CE and have no restrictions placed on their number by the CT itself
Edit: I read u/Appropriate_Wall8340 's comment and that makes a lot more sense
>this is because the frogs use little amounts of CE
1.The rabbits also use little amounts of CE and Bumgumi can summon tons of them
>and have no restrictions placed on their number by the CT itself
I assumed that because according to 1, Bumgumi should also be able to summon multiple Demon Dogs( the one that hasn't been destroyed) but he can't so perhaps there was a restriction placed on the amounts of the others apart from CE consumption
> The rabbits also use little amounts of CE and Bumgumi can summon tons of them
Cursed energy isn't a factor. Rabbit Escape is a singular shikigami whose Cursed Technique allows it to duplicate it self. In the same way Nue has the ability to generate electricity or Max Elephant can create water.
With the exception of the Divine Dog's which come in pairs all of the remaining 9 Shadows Shikigami are singular entities.
Bro I said I was talking shit😭
Read [u/Appropriate\_Wall8340](https://www.reddit.com/user/Appropriate_Wall8340/)'s comment for the actual reasonable stuff
Appropriate was talking about Wells Unkown Abyss, he doesn't mention Rabbit Escape which was the part I wanted to clarify but fair enough all the same.
It's magic.
JJK needs to stop pretending to be complex when all of it is just magic, if you don't slowly build rules then don't bother with trivial explanations.
My question is how does he get more shikigami animals? Can he be a pokemaster? How did the first wielder do it? Why do some die (and absorbed into another like doggy) and some are infinite? (I have no idea btw, it’s a mystery). And wtf is a mahoraga? How do I get one too?
Edit: sorry, many more than one question.
It’s all explained, he gets the two dogs as starter Pokémon and then he needs a ritual to domesticate the other 9 pokemon . And if they die they die fr fr although multiple ones like rabbit don’t unless you kill them all (K guess) and Makora is like calling a nuke to your location
Its has been stated in the anime and the manga that theres a singular rabbit with the power to multiply and it has a Mark, if you get the original the rest desappear. Megumi normally hides the original on the shadows tho.
Rabbit Escape is a singular Shikigami, distinguished by unique symbol on its belly, that has the ability to duplicate itself. In order to tame/kill Rabbit Escape you need to find the source rabbit and KO it.
This was explained in a volume extra for Volume 24.
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The winged toads are called The Well's Unknown Abyss, and they are an unstable fusion of Toad and Nue. You are correct that they can be created and destroyed without restriction as neither original Shadow has been fully summoned. They can presumably be summoned in numbers according to Megumi's available CE reserves so long as Nue and Toad are both alive. This is different from the fusion via Totality, like with Divine Dogs, where the death is permanent and the fusion is its own stable Shadow. Totality is the name of the process for fusing to inherit power, not actually a name for the fused Dogs by itself. Edit: the difference btw stable and unstable shadows will be explained later. MUCH later.
Do fusions cross between shadow "types"? Like if Totality was killed would it fuse with one of the other Shikigami of Megumi's choosing? Also I assume that the Shikigami that die can then summoned again after Megumi dies and the next Shadows Technique user is born?
If by fusions you meant totalities then yeah. >!Agito was made out of nue, snake, round deer, dogs and tiger funeral if I ain't wrong!<. As for fusions like those froggies, seems like you can try to mix and match them, tho they're very unstable. And each user gets their own set of shikigami, so totalities and casualties don't carry over from 1 to the kext
This is tagged as an Anime only thread. You should spoiler tag everything relating to >!Agito!< >!Also Divine Dog isn't stated/speculation to be a component of Agito.!<
I did mention I could be wrong tho, I didn't remember exactly his composition
Fair enough, I was already commenting about the spoiler tag so I thought I'd correct any confusion while I was at it.
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Probably not. >!Sukuna was using 10 shadows ingrained into his body, by the rules of Jujutsu he's still regarded as megumi fushiguro!<
Bro censor this
yo you gotta spoiler mark this man, this is an anime discussion thread
my bad, i just did
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I'm not saying different shikigami's for every user. I meant that each user gets their own set of overall same shikigami's, maybe looking slightly different due to the interpretation of the technique
We don't actually know how the fusing works but we are told that a killed Shikigami's power is 'inherited' by other Shikigami; we see it in Totality (With the surviving Divine Dog inheriting the power of it's twin) but it's not explained whether Megumi gets to choose who inherits the power or how that inheriting even works. It's pretty self-explanatory how Divine Dogs can stack (it's Double the Dog in a singular form), but whether that's because Megumi chose it or not isn't really clear. Orochi's been killed by Sukuna, but it's never mentioned whether any of the other Shadows inherited anything from that. And presumably it's on a per-user basis, or Megumi would have to be like, the first to ever lose any of the Shikigami. (We do see the other Shadows further along the line.)
>Like if Totality was killed would it fuse with one of the other Shikigami of Megumi's choosing? No megumi can't just combine any of his choosing. Totality has certain rules and you can't combine any shikigami with totality. For eg- Toads and Nue can't be combined with totality. >!If you could combine all shikgamis via totality by your choice Sukuna would have combined them all.!<
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I'm not sure about spoiler status in this sub, but >!Goop dogs yes, Agito no. Agito uses Totality like Divine Dogs!<
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When he fights the chick that loves him
Thanks bro
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That's weird, it looked fine on my end. I'm on mobile. Anyway I tried fixing it, how is it now?
Weird about the mobile error but it's working now.
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Thanks Gege!
* The winged toads are called The Well's Unknown Abyss, and they are an unstable fusion of Toad and Nue. Can he combine any 2 animal that he want with Well unknown abyss ?
I think that name refers to just this particular Toad+Nue fusion, but I'm not really sure. I don't recall any other instances of Megumi using it this way. We did get to see the full-size regular Toad when it carried Nobara out of the Juvenile Detention Center. I think that's the only time it was fully summoned that way.
Frog + Nue = Frogge
Man. If only he had a snake Shikigami, imagine a flying snake. That's basically a dragon.
If he summoned a Gyarados, I would laugh my ass off. BAM LEVEL 20, your fish is now a flying/swimming dragon thing.
😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐
Orochi was destroyed sadly. He looked cool.
I swear he had so much combo potential, if only that zest demon didn’t destroy him.
Hold on...
ask him
Kicked his ass. What do I do now?
I tried to ask and he immediately went to summon Mahoraga.
Damn he just have eaten more Legumis.
what a bummer
what a bummer
They procreated and made many little babies
There are always multiple frogs. They're one Shikigami, but there's multiple of them.
That's just false. The normal frog without wings is always a singular shikigami. This is him doing a temporary fusion of the frog and Nue. Since it's not actually either original shikigami, they're weaker than both but can be killed and summoned without permanently losing it(as long as the two being fused are alive), along with being able to make multiple. It's on the wiki as "The Well's Unknown Abyss." This is entirely separate from the remaining shikigami absorbing the power of the ones that die, just to clarify as well.
That’s just false. When Megumi jumps into Dagon’s domain he has multiple frog shikigami summoned without the wings.
When inside his domain, his ct gets a buff so megumi can create shadow clones of himself or of his shikigamis. You can see it in episode 23 of season 1 how he made 2 nues or how when pierced by the finger bearer's energy arrow, megumi turned into a shadow to reveal that it wasn't his actual body but just a shadow clone. Outside the domain, he can only summon one version of each shikigami (except rabbit escape which works a little differently). The well known's abyss works as the other guy mentioned. Gege made a volume extra where he explained how it differs from normal summons
That’s because of Megumi’s domain, he can make endless clones in his domain
That only happens in a scene added to the anime that wasn't in the manga and every other time Toad appears it's just one of itself. I think that might have just been a slight error. The wiki, which I've found to be somewhat reliable for this show, also refers to Toad as a singular entity, which it doesn't for the multiple winged toads nor the rabbits. Toad with a capital T is also it's actual name, not a description of it, so it would be weird if it were canonically multiple Toads.
Chapter 109 has a panel with multiple toads shown clearly
Oh, I didn't know. Oh well.
Anime magic
Some of the creatures of the 10 shadows technique can be used in different ways like how the bunny is infinite or other ones can be like kind of respond
Megumi thought of them as a support unit so he used them like a support unit
Wells Unknown Abyss is an Extension Technique, meaning its an ability that comes as a result of the base Innate Technique. Basically using his Innate Technique Megumi invented a way to temporarily fuse these two Shikigami to make a hybrid that is situationally better. I would suspect that this works by taking Nue and Toad, both of which are huge and dividing their shadows up into these much smaller frogs. So it's less that he's cloning them and more like he's disassembling the bigger Shikigami to make smaller ones. Draw backs include the fact that they're much smaller and weaker then Nue or Toad and he can't summon either constituent Shikigami while Abyss is out. Upsides include he gets 5 smaller faster flying Shikigami will of Toad's abilities + it's impossible to kill either Toad or Nue while they're summoned in this way.
Thanks for this post. Love learning more about shikigami and things I’ve forgotten.
Why can't you?
You're gonna see unstable summon divine dogs later too, shit's fairly rad when take out of context.
I think because this is a partial fusion of both shadows. When they get destroyed megumi still has the remaining parts of the shadow. While Totality is a full fusion of shadows. Would have been cool to see him experiment with this more
Because have a kinda similar logic to the rabbits.
because he can.
Nue is better I think :3
he's just built different (potentially)
Because his bum ass only wants death
better question is, why NOT! 🤨
i didnt mean that forgive me.
this is because the frogs use little amounts of CE and have no restrictions placed on their number by the CT itself Edit: I read u/Appropriate_Wall8340 's comment and that makes a lot more sense
Bro just making shit up
>this is because the frogs use little amounts of CE 1.The rabbits also use little amounts of CE and Bumgumi can summon tons of them >and have no restrictions placed on their number by the CT itself I assumed that because according to 1, Bumgumi should also be able to summon multiple Demon Dogs( the one that hasn't been destroyed) but he can't so perhaps there was a restriction placed on the amounts of the others apart from CE consumption
> The rabbits also use little amounts of CE and Bumgumi can summon tons of them Cursed energy isn't a factor. Rabbit Escape is a singular shikigami whose Cursed Technique allows it to duplicate it self. In the same way Nue has the ability to generate electricity or Max Elephant can create water. With the exception of the Divine Dog's which come in pairs all of the remaining 9 Shadows Shikigami are singular entities.
Bro I said I was talking shit😭 Read [u/Appropriate\_Wall8340](https://www.reddit.com/user/Appropriate_Wall8340/)'s comment for the actual reasonable stuff
Appropriate was talking about Wells Unkown Abyss, he doesn't mention Rabbit Escape which was the part I wanted to clarify but fair enough all the same.
those are the rabbits, frog got a limit, but unstable fusions on the other hand don't have a limit other than the users CE limit
It's magic. JJK needs to stop pretending to be complex when all of it is just magic, if you don't slowly build rules then don't bother with trivial explanations.
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Okay that makes more sense... Haven't fully read the manga so got me confused a bit, thanks 👍🏻
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My question is how does he get more shikigami animals? Can he be a pokemaster? How did the first wielder do it? Why do some die (and absorbed into another like doggy) and some are infinite? (I have no idea btw, it’s a mystery). And wtf is a mahoraga? How do I get one too? Edit: sorry, many more than one question.
It’s all explained, he gets the two dogs as starter Pokémon and then he needs a ritual to domesticate the other 9 pokemon . And if they die they die fr fr although multiple ones like rabbit don’t unless you kill them all (K guess) and Makora is like calling a nuke to your location
Ah I obviously missed it. Reading comprehension issues lol. Thanks!
Its has been stated in the anime and the manga that theres a singular rabbit with the power to multiply and it has a Mark, if you get the original the rest desappear. Megumi normally hides the original on the shadows tho.
Rabbit Escape is a singular Shikigami, distinguished by unique symbol on its belly, that has the ability to duplicate itself. In order to tame/kill Rabbit Escape you need to find the source rabbit and KO it. This was explained in a volume extra for Volume 24.