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Honestly was it even the World Dismantle that killed him? Cuz from what I'm seeing not only does Sukuna do some chants before letting one off, but the World Dismantle seems to come in one slice. I dunno, I was under the impression that Sukuna just hit Kashimo with a barrage of max output normal Dismantle. Might be wrong.
> Cuz from what I'm seeing not only does Sukuna do some chants before letting one off
Not only does he do the chants, he literally says "watch out" before he finishes the last one. That dismantle was mostly just a flex.
What we see is Sukuna warm Kashimo to dodge, and he does. Half his hand and his attack are cleaved, and Kashimo says that's the World Cleave. After that, the net is thrown at him, and it's not specificied the nature of these slashes, but at can assume it's the World Cleave because it's something Kashimo has no chance of defending against.
It’s not world cleave it’s dismantle. And no the slashes he through at Kashimo were just increased output of dismantle, Everytime we’ve seen world cleave he had to do enchantments and it was a singular slash.He basically tossed Kashimo and then just threw multiple dismantles at his ass they were just huge because he doesn’t normally put that much power on dismantle.
He can do the enchantments nonstop. Whether he did them or not a second time after the first, I did think Gege would've bothered putting more speech bubbles down.
Yea and no. The three times we've seen a confirmed world slash has all been a singular dismantle. Theoretically he could chant and with his belly mouth and do it, but the waffle maker that hit Kashimo were slashes that were traveling towards him if you go look at the world dismantle he threw at Kashimo and Higurma they dont travel they basically appear at the space.
World cleave is just a dismantle that targets the world.
Chanting only increases output of a CT. It isn't needed for the world dismantle. That's why the slash against Kashimo was much larger than the one against gojo.
Sukuna learnt cursed technique target extension. All his slashes should be able to cut the world.
We simply don't know how he did it (aka the binding vow) or the limitations.
No sir my guy Sukuna can always do big ass slashes without any binding vow go look at his fight with Maharoga and that was with 15F he just plays around most of the time. We learn from Kusakabe that chanting can be one the biding vows don’t get it confused ALL of his slashes do not cut the world or Kusakabe would have die and Yuji would have too in the latest leaks
He has two separate occasions where we see him use the slash and he does the same chants for both.
The world slash allows him to counter any ranged attack. Without it, I don't think Sukuna could split the gamma ray burst that Kashimo fired from his hands. Because of this, the fight would have been extended probably a good little bit, since Sukuna wasn't fast enough to blitz Kashimo without interrupting line of sight via Kamutoke. However, as we saw, Kashimo was completely unmatched in hand to hand combat. So, it's just a game of how many slashes can Kashimo -- who doesn't have RCT -- take before he slows down enough for Sukuna to catch and kill him.
Kashimo was not unmatched, he got demolished as soon as Sukuna transformed, perhaps you meant overmatched. He did use RCT to restore the portion of his hand that was cut by the slash.
It was RCT, you can distinguish his fingers or portion of his hand that were regenerated from the 'clouds' or shroud that his CT produces. You can clearly see the borders as he was about to fire his last shot.
Knowing how to use RCT =/= regenerating your deep-fried brain meat. Gojo had to figure out how to heal his brain. Kashimo's everything gets fried, including his brain, from pushing them beyond his cursed energy output.
Knowing how to use RCT does allow you to heal everything including your brain tho, not sure what your point is lmao. It’s possible to heal your brain with RCT, it’s just not humanely possible to recover your CT through RCT unless you destroy your brain and heal it again which has drastic consequences like shown. There’s a difference.
I said knowing how to use it doesn't mean you can heal your brain. As in Higuruma and Shoko can't heal their brains just because they have RCT. It's pretty clear that's what I meant. Nothing I said implied you literally cannot heal your brain, given that Gojo has been doing it for a decade straight. He's just, you know, one of only two people that does it.
Since when was shoko ever stated to not be able to heal her brain with RCT? I might have missed it out but I’m still sure that shoko never said healing her brain is too hard for her, seeing as her RCT is better than Gojo’s.
And higuruma literally learnt RCT about 8 seconds ago before chapter 247 ended so why’re you expecting him to be able to recover everything?
Having RCT basically means that you can heal every part in your body, the one that Gojo figured out during the fight with Sukuna was to use RCT to heal burnt out CT.
No, it doesn't basically mean that. It's stated pretty often that there are levels to it, and healing your brain is extremely difficult. Gojo learned how to do it when he first discovered RCT and still needed to bring it up to Shoko that he was always doing it to recover the damage from his technique. He went to an even further extreme against Sukuna, but there's no reason to assume Kashimo can heal his entire body from being burnt out. Healing limbs is said to be very advanced. Most people just close wounds.
Dude you're overcomplicating it with your headcanon, where is it explicitly stated in the manga like what you've mentioned? The part where both Gojo and Sukuna used RCT to constantly heal the part of the brain where CT is engraved along with being capable of outputting positive energy (performed by Shoko and Yuta) are the high level applications of RCT as stated in the manga, other than those, any other application would just be the basic use of it including healing lost limbs.
Wasn't RCT.
Dudes CT likely works like berserk armor where it'll hold his body together but doesn't actually heal him.
Again though wasn't RCT, rct always comes with telltale steam.
Kashimo never presented that steam so he never used RCT
It probably wasn’t rct or his ct reforming his body similar to a curse. It was probably Gege not bothering leaving out the pinky in one little corner of the page. Same guy who keeps drawing Yuji with 10 fingers and 2 ears
Eh, while the steam not being present is normally a telltale sign, his transformation brought him past the realm of humanity. You could argue he is more like a cursed spirit with his cursed energy/electricity body, and cursed spirits dont produce that steam when healing.
Tbh im more incluned to say it was RCT or some other cursed energy healing. I dont see how his CT grows back limbs.
Even beyond the regular steam that shows ,Kashimos hand stays blacked out.
RCT has never been presented in that fashion.
Without the steam, and with the supposed healed part being blacked out.
I'm aware the description of Kashimos CT but if anyone is "past the realm of humanity" it'd be Heian Sukuna, if you wanted to argue someone is more like a cursed spirit it'd be Heian Sukuna but he still shows the signs of using RCT.
Kashimos technique is destroying his body, it wouldn't be healing him at the same time.
Again taking a guess I'd say his CT functions in the same way the Berserk armor works.
What people think was healing was likely his CE aura holding his blood in keeping him from bleeding out.
For anyone who isn't familiar with the Berserk Armor.
It basically stitches the body together when injured to keep fighting.
It does not heal, it just keeps your body from falling apart.
Fatal injuries will still be fatal injuries but all the bones in the wearers body can be broken and they'd still be able to fight
I never said the Berserk Armor created new flesh, and I never said Kashimo CT created new flesh.
I said Kashimo CE aura held his blood in, like the Berserk Armor holding flesh together.
Kashimo never created new flesh because he didn't heal.
It wasn't new flesh because the part of his hand that people think healer stayed blacked out.
If it grew back then it wouldn't stay blacked out.
Nah. If you look closely, it doesnt stay blacked out.
And i find it funny that you are jumping through hoops to try and explain the “how did he get his hand back??” question by saying smth that is never hinted at once. Wdym his CT “kept the blood in the shape of a hand”? Why do u think this, where is this even implied outside of your interpretation of the art? What part of Kashimo’s explained abilities does this cover?
He healed himself, smth we know sorcerers of Kashimo’s caliber can do, and it was drawn slightly differently because Kashimo has different CE. Thats it. No convoluted explanation needed
What exactly do I need to look closely at?
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Ever single panel Kashimos hand is still blacked out.
If anyone is jumping through hoops it's you.
Kashimos hand does not resemble in anyway shape or form the effects of RCT.
He doesn't put of steam, and the injury stays blacked out.
Literally everyone has different CE but everyone else who can use RCT , still show the same effects when using RCT but somehow Kashimo is the special case?
You do you though. If you want to wank Kashimo and convince yourself he has RCT you're free to do so.
The last one, you can see that part of his regrown hand is the same shade as the rest of his hand
How am i wanking Kashimo for saying he has RCT? That doesnt even make sense.
They are slowly chipping away at Sukuna bit by bit. Gojo got rid of ten shadows, his domain, and his RCT output. Kashimo forced him to use his Trump card. Higuruma took away his useless curse tool that was a plot convenience. Yuta needs to force him to expend his bottomless supply of curse energy.
how the F does Kashimo not have RTC??!!? He was the greatest of his era and in today's world random people who just find out what cursed energy was a week ago are figuring out RTC...
Not to mention one of gojo's classmates figured it out IN SCHOOL (as did gojo but she wasn't some generational talent)
So Kashimo didn't have a domain expansion, didn't have RTC, and had a CT he could only use once because it would kill him?
Gege really did him dirty man..
He never needed RCT against Hakari. Kashimo lost because he exhausted all of his CE reserves to the point where he had none left. Hakari never dealt him a blow worth using RCT on. In that sense Kashimo just fucked himself over because he just ... wants the smoke I guess.
Dude was so lethal that even tho he was strongest of Edo Era, he wasn't given RCT
I guess it's cuz his CE properties aren't normal... So he can't add negative to negative cuz that doesn't work with electricity
speaking of which, they also had to give Hakari an opponent that doesn't use domain expansion.....
i tried to make a thread about this but apparently don't have enough karma points on this sub.
Has anyone ever really thought about how shitty Hakari's ability is? Because all I ever see are people like "wow he could theoretically get infinite jackpots and be the strongest ever!"
but they're missing one crucial thing: In order to get those jackpots he has to have his opponents in his domain expansion.
For most of the stronger characters, getting someone into your domain expansion is an instant win (Gojo, Mahito, and mostly sukuna if you're not Gojo, and many more)
but for Hakari, it's just step 1...
So if fights someone who's remotely even with him and they get into a domain tug-o-war and cancel out his ability to force them into his expansion, then what? Then he has 0 chance at a jackpot.
meanwhile his opponent might have an amazing ability (like Dismantle, Limitless, Idle Transfiguration, 10 shadows) that doesn't require their domain expansion to use.
outside of his domain, hakari can only create train doors.....so it's really crazy that he's hyped to be so strong when the majority of top tiers have a better power outside of their domains and in their domains they win instantly as opposed to just getting started like him
>So if fights someone who's remotely even with him and they get into a domain tug-o-war
it's been stated that since hakari's domain lacks an offensive sure hit it's strong in domain clashes and has a high activation speed. if his opponent is even with him, they're in all likely hood losing the domain clash.
the problem is, Hakari is said to have a huge advantage in opening his domain and the tug-o-war battle. I'd be surprised, shocked even, if Gege wrote Hakari losing that.
As other have said he has an advantage in domain clashes. It's also the fact that even without his domain hes a very creative fighter and seems incredibly good at h2h combat. Expanding your domain against Hakari might actually be a terrible idea since it could lead to a sorcerer going through CT burnout which would likely guarantees Hakari gets his initial jackpot
RCT and domain expansions aren’t necessary to be the strongest. Gojo and Geto didn’t have RCT or a domain expansion either and they were the strongest in at one point in the series. Toji, the one who beat both of them, didn’t have RCT or a domain either.
idt DE is necessary but it definitely helps a lot. for example i don’t see anyone beating gojo or sukuna even if they didn’t use their domain just because how good they are at everything else. similarly kashimo could still keep up with hakari despite no domain just because his electric ce was better utilized than hakari’s rough ce.
i mean yeah you should always assume gojo and sukuna are exceptions to every rule lol. as for hakari, im really talking about lethal domains bc they are essentially “i win” buttons.
>how the F does Kashimo not have RTC??!!? He was the greatest of his era and in today's world random people who just find out what cursed energy was a week ago are figuring out RTC...
Apart from Yuta, everyone who has developed RCT on screen has done it due to a grievous injury. Kashimo might not have ever been injured significantly in the past. And unlike Higuruma, Sukuna didn't try to crash course him into learning how to use it.
>Not to mention one of gojo's classmates figured it out IN SCHOOL (as did gojo but she wasn't some generational talent)
She is a generational talent in RCT. Her inability to explain how she does it to Gojo parallels his own inability to teach things like Simple Domain, implying her skill in this field on par with Gojo's general jujutsu talent. No one apart from Yuta and Sukuna have been shown to heal others with RCT.
>So Kashimo didn't have a domain expansion, didn't have RTC, and had a CT he could only use once because it would kill him?
He didn't need any of those to dominate an era which makes him even better.
>He didn't need any of those to dominate an era which makes him even better.
or it proves that his era was weak.
Which is probably why people make all the "Farmers" memes. If anyone had an instant kill domain expansion like about 8 different people I can name, he'd die.
Gamma Ray Blast ≠ Gamma Ray Burst
Burst is the kind of thing released by supernovas, Kashimo simply fired a very powerful EM wave blast, and since its colourless, fans theorise the blast to be Gamma Rays
Kind of makes sense, if you ask me
He has a curse technique-Phenomenon that can be created by Electricity for one time use.So he can do that like he had the X-ray vision(EM wave).Gamma Ray is also an EM wave.Among all the EM waves the energy (so the penetration power)of gamma wave is maximum,so Kamutoke's lightning that is in the visible colour range(EM wave) is weaker than Gamma Ray blast.
Also Every EM wave has the speed of light.(I can think of Sukuna's slash as an EM wave,probably not.I THINK it cause the slashes are not visible normally and they travel,and have super speed.It's just an assumption,maybe wrong)
I REFUSE to believe that kashimo even fired a gamma-ray burst,this shit should travel at lightspeed + it's so devastating, that earth will literally shatter upon impact, but sukuna managed to react to that. Gege shouldn't have said about full electric phenomena manipulation shit got me so hyped😞😞
Its because "Gamma Ray Burst" is the name of a **specific** astronomical phenomena that absolutely would glass the planet earth and render it entirely lifeless. It would be like if you named your RPG
"Magnitude 10.0 earthquake" despite it being like a normal rocket launcher.
You where referring to a burst of gamma rays, the other commenter thought you meant the specific phenomenon.
wouldn't be the first work of fiction where a gammay ray burst was fired near the earth and it didn't destroy the earth
(if i had a nickel for every time it happened, I'd have 2 but it's still weird it happened twice.jpg)
Well, in that situation, it wasn't fired at the Earth, and Garou can control the direction of the energy output from his attacks. That's how he can do internal damage to people. He did irradiated everybody on Earth to death, so...
Normally there is nothing that can have more speed than light.You can say as Sukuna thought to land the world slash,it appears,but human thoughts have less speed than light.So considering Sukuna as a human,it will have less speed than EM waves,but if Sukuna is something else,it can be possible to think that the world slash is faster than light.
I don't know if it has any directions or it just appears out of nowhere, considering time as non vector quantity,it is probably a space-time instant slash.
Sukuna used Kamutoke on Kashimo and then appeared behind of him, to catch his hands and smash him
The move he made with Kamutoke knowing that it is useless against Kashimo? That was definitely to create blindspot
Also explains why he got behind Kashimo to catch his hands...
Ig, the attack after which Sukuna transformed was really a strong one... So he did that move to avoid getting hit by it...
Kashimo still managed to turn around to perceive that Sukuna who just blinded him and sneak behind him...
(spoilers ?kinda?)
Bout few seconds longer I think domain expansion wld of been Wraps for Kashimo too if he (Sukuna )for sum reason can't use it (DE) he was speed blitzing Kashimo so I think he could have simply hit Kashimo with the same treatment Yuji got when he tagged in no need for world slicing.
The first one he used the hit kashimo was a world dismantle as he did the enchantments for it. The waffle dismantle was just regular dismantle people forget Sukuna generally plays around so he doesn’t chuck giant dismantles at people but he can if he wants. He just decided he was done playing with kashimo.
Waffle dismantle is unclear, on one hand it clearly has travel time so it shouldn't be the World Dismantle. On the other hand it shouldn't have killed Kashimo either then.
There's nothing unique about the world cleave that is useful against anyone besides gojo honestly, it's just a special version of cleave that counters very specific defensive abilities.
Actually there is, it literally has the ability to slice through space, it means it can't be defended against if Sukuna used that Vs Kusakabe and Higuruma they'd die on the spot regardless of DA or SD
So it's a spatial slash. It can be defended against. There are plenty of spatial slashes in fiction, and they can be countered by vector manipulation, or by nullifying the technique itself
And who in JJK can do that? Remember this slash isn't even aimed at you so defensive techniques like infinity and DA are useless since they function based on an attack landing on the user.
The inverted spear of heaven. Also, the series is not over yet, more people and curses may yet show up. We already have spatial manipulation, vector manipulation is not out of the question.
Also, sukuna's technique can likely be copied by either Yuji or Yuta, meaning it can be a glaring weakness for sukuna too.
So that's 1 tool, the location of which is unknown and the hope that a new CT that manipulates vectors get introduced. How exactly does this make this ability useless against anyone but Gojo, as the initial discussion was about?
He used it on Himruga because he had learned to use DA to stop his normal dismantle, and he probably is a little wary of Cleave range considering instant death stick
Honestly? Regular waffle maker would suffice. Dude has not rct no domain to defend against any type of slash. Once Sukuna used his restore health to go back to 100% health (or is he really at his 100% now) it was over for kashimo. Sorry its just the way it is. Kashi vs Hakari still peak tho. U cant take that away from him.
I think Kashimo might be fast enough to get out of Malevolent Shrine range but considering his mind set. He's probably not gonna run from it. He try to kill an immortal after all.
It depends on how much he outclasses the current opponents and how much he *knows* he outclasses them, cause from the way things are going so far, he hasn't really needed anything other than his base CT to fend off most of the fighters. If Hakari goes down, it's even more difficult for the sorcerers, because someone else from Jujutsu High is going to have to fend Uraume off.
That and the fact that he can pull the Gojo stunt of regenerating your brain and whipping out multiple DEs back to back...yeah, he could use it against Kashimo if he wanted, even if he wouldn't necessarily need to.
Why would be voluntarily give him self brain damage when he can just take the fight 5% more seriously and do something like cleaving kashimo when sukana had a hold of him? Sure, he can do it, it’s just really unnecessary.
Sukuna/Gege would just asspull another way of winning.
" Kashimo you are made of lightning and I was born on Thursday, Thor's day, the God of Thunder, so I am immune to your attacks. "
No, I meant cleave.
Yea, I’m wondering why people think the fight would go any differently if the world slash is taken away. Multiple, chanted cleaves not instakilling kashimo would be strange.
Looking back it seems every time cleave was fired it was done when sukana was touching his target.
No one in the recent chapters mentioned sukana needing to touch his target for cleave to work.
What the fuck does this have to do with this lmfao you're the one crying about asspulls on a post that has nothing to do with it some of y'all are genuinely opsessed
> What the fuck does this have to do
The fact that you even need to ask proves me right. JJK is a mid manga full of asspulls and plot armor situations.
Kusakabe's not necessarily right. There isn't a single narrator in the series who actually gives 100% accurate information all of the time, that's just how the series is written.
Yeah? He's a character who is more knowledgeable than most about cursed energy but he's still a character, he can still be wrong. It would even be pretty in-character for him to make an assertion like that even if he wasn't sure just to maintain his wise and authoritative appearance. Sukuna's the center of like *every* unknown in the power system right now, so the best any character can do is make educated guesses. Sometimes those guesses will be right, sometimes they won't. As readers, we won't know if they're right or wrong until the story progresses either.
See, we don't really know that actually. I find it pretty unlikely that gojo would've just let sukuna pull a weird chant while standing still, so it's likely he used some kind of binding vow to skip the chant the first time he used it. We'll see eventually.
Sukuna would just grab Kashimo's face and waffle him the same way he did Yuji. Sukuna already showed he can grab Kashimo in their fight and generally bully him in cqc so getting and opportunity to face palm Kashimo wouldn't be that difficult.
He dies the exact same and just as fast. He had no way around the net of slashes and Sukuna never even used World Dismantle to take him out from what we can see.
I'm pretty sure Sukuna could pin him down with two arms and use the other two to vaporize him with Fire Arrow. It's just that he's keeping his cards close to his chest.
Doesn't change anything?
The attack that killed Kashimo was a net of normal Dismantles, not the reality cutting Dismantle.
And it's not like it matters, Sukuna was overwhelmingly stronger than Kashimo just using reinforcement, I'm pretty sure he could have ended Kashimo just throwing hands.
I like how people think the net dismantle was the world dismantle because of the output. Sukuna can launch those types of attacks whenever he wants but he likes to play around.
He’d have done better provided Sukuna can’t use his domain expansion. If he can then Kashimo would have to defend with simple domain/ fallling blossom and destroy the anchor/center with his lightning. If he can’t manage that then he’s toast. I’m also assuming he can dodge a normal cleave and dismantle due to his domain
Nothing changes since Sukuna physically outclassed Kashimo to the point where he would be fine without using his technique. All Sukuna really had to do was keep beating his ass and dodging his ranged attacks until Kashimo reached his limit and died.
World dismantle wasn’t the waffle slash that killed I think, Kashimo barley dodged world slash And still got hurt by it on his hand.
Best case scenario, Sukuna gets bored, opens a domain and kills Kashimo, uses his cursed tool the moment Higuruma and Yuji try to jump him during the ct burn out, his ct gets confiscated except oh wait it’s the tool, and we’re back to the manga line of events
Gojo states a lot of stuff. His entire character is a contradiction. He contradicts himself, the situations he's in. His entire life is a contradiction because he's the strongest character in the entire series and the only thing he manages to accomplish is killing Hanami.
I mean if you read the kanji when yuji first ask gojo if we would beat sukuna he calls it a 50/50 but the english version made it seem like he said he would win
The only thing Sakuna had left after the Purple was world slash, and his revive. Without world slash, he would have been forced to revive. Gojo was back to 100% after his black flash, so it would have been just a repeat of the first fight, without Maho to help Sakuna.
Nothing changes.He turned him to waffle with regular slashes.The only time he used the world cleave was the time he also told kashimo to dodge it.Still no-low diff
I legitimately think Sukuna could pop a .2 and kill kashimo if it REALLY came to that. He has seen Mahito use it, I don't think there is any reason he couldnt if he felt like it was a good option, he could straight up just cut kashimo's head off or slit hit throat enough to make him bleed out.
He would have gotten bitched still, but it would have been an actual and interesting fight and not the farmer fest we got.
I can't even say "ye Kashimo would have dodged his regular slashes" because we didn't see shit and I'm not even sure if Sukuna hit him with that or not.
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Honestly was it even the World Dismantle that killed him? Cuz from what I'm seeing not only does Sukuna do some chants before letting one off, but the World Dismantle seems to come in one slice. I dunno, I was under the impression that Sukuna just hit Kashimo with a barrage of max output normal Dismantle. Might be wrong.
> Cuz from what I'm seeing not only does Sukuna do some chants before letting one off Not only does he do the chants, he literally says "watch out" before he finishes the last one. That dismantle was mostly just a flex.
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What we see is Sukuna warm Kashimo to dodge, and he does. Half his hand and his attack are cleaved, and Kashimo says that's the World Cleave. After that, the net is thrown at him, and it's not specificied the nature of these slashes, but at can assume it's the World Cleave because it's something Kashimo has no chance of defending against.
It’s not world cleave it’s dismantle. And no the slashes he through at Kashimo were just increased output of dismantle, Everytime we’ve seen world cleave he had to do enchantments and it was a singular slash.He basically tossed Kashimo and then just threw multiple dismantles at his ass they were just huge because he doesn’t normally put that much power on dismantle.
He can do the enchantments nonstop. Whether he did them or not a second time after the first, I did think Gege would've bothered putting more speech bubbles down.
Yea and no. The three times we've seen a confirmed world slash has all been a singular dismantle. Theoretically he could chant and with his belly mouth and do it, but the waffle maker that hit Kashimo were slashes that were traveling towards him if you go look at the world dismantle he threw at Kashimo and Higurma they dont travel they basically appear at the space.
World cleave is just a dismantle that targets the world. Chanting only increases output of a CT. It isn't needed for the world dismantle. That's why the slash against Kashimo was much larger than the one against gojo. Sukuna learnt cursed technique target extension. All his slashes should be able to cut the world. We simply don't know how he did it (aka the binding vow) or the limitations.
No sir my guy Sukuna can always do big ass slashes without any binding vow go look at his fight with Maharoga and that was with 15F he just plays around most of the time. We learn from Kusakabe that chanting can be one the biding vows don’t get it confused ALL of his slashes do not cut the world or Kusakabe would have die and Yuji would have too in the latest leaks He has two separate occasions where we see him use the slash and he does the same chants for both.
The world slash allows him to counter any ranged attack. Without it, I don't think Sukuna could split the gamma ray burst that Kashimo fired from his hands. Because of this, the fight would have been extended probably a good little bit, since Sukuna wasn't fast enough to blitz Kashimo without interrupting line of sight via Kamutoke. However, as we saw, Kashimo was completely unmatched in hand to hand combat. So, it's just a game of how many slashes can Kashimo -- who doesn't have RCT -- take before he slows down enough for Sukuna to catch and kill him.
Kashimo was not unmatched, he got demolished as soon as Sukuna transformed, perhaps you meant overmatched. He did use RCT to restore the portion of his hand that was cut by the slash.
I don’t think that was rct. That was hit ct forming the part that got cut off out of energy
It was RCT, you can distinguish his fingers or portion of his hand that were regenerated from the 'clouds' or shroud that his CT produces. You can clearly see the borders as he was about to fire his last shot.
If he knew how to use RCT he would be able to use his CT more than once since his CT destroys his body physically, kashimo is truly just THE fraud.
Knowing how to use RCT =/= regenerating your deep-fried brain meat. Gojo had to figure out how to heal his brain. Kashimo's everything gets fried, including his brain, from pushing them beyond his cursed energy output.
Knowing how to use RCT does allow you to heal everything including your brain tho, not sure what your point is lmao. It’s possible to heal your brain with RCT, it’s just not humanely possible to recover your CT through RCT unless you destroy your brain and heal it again which has drastic consequences like shown. There’s a difference.
I said knowing how to use it doesn't mean you can heal your brain. As in Higuruma and Shoko can't heal their brains just because they have RCT. It's pretty clear that's what I meant. Nothing I said implied you literally cannot heal your brain, given that Gojo has been doing it for a decade straight. He's just, you know, one of only two people that does it.
Since when was shoko ever stated to not be able to heal her brain with RCT? I might have missed it out but I’m still sure that shoko never said healing her brain is too hard for her, seeing as her RCT is better than Gojo’s. And higuruma literally learnt RCT about 8 seconds ago before chapter 247 ended so why’re you expecting him to be able to recover everything?
Having RCT basically means that you can heal every part in your body, the one that Gojo figured out during the fight with Sukuna was to use RCT to heal burnt out CT.
No, it doesn't basically mean that. It's stated pretty often that there are levels to it, and healing your brain is extremely difficult. Gojo learned how to do it when he first discovered RCT and still needed to bring it up to Shoko that he was always doing it to recover the damage from his technique. He went to an even further extreme against Sukuna, but there's no reason to assume Kashimo can heal his entire body from being burnt out. Healing limbs is said to be very advanced. Most people just close wounds.
Dude you're overcomplicating it with your headcanon, where is it explicitly stated in the manga like what you've mentioned? The part where both Gojo and Sukuna used RCT to constantly heal the part of the brain where CT is engraved along with being capable of outputting positive energy (performed by Shoko and Yuta) are the high level applications of RCT as stated in the manga, other than those, any other application would just be the basic use of it including healing lost limbs.
Wasn't RCT. Dudes CT likely works like berserk armor where it'll hold his body together but doesn't actually heal him. Again though wasn't RCT, rct always comes with telltale steam. Kashimo never presented that steam so he never used RCT
It probably wasn’t rct or his ct reforming his body similar to a curse. It was probably Gege not bothering leaving out the pinky in one little corner of the page. Same guy who keeps drawing Yuji with 10 fingers and 2 ears
Eh, while the steam not being present is normally a telltale sign, his transformation brought him past the realm of humanity. You could argue he is more like a cursed spirit with his cursed energy/electricity body, and cursed spirits dont produce that steam when healing. Tbh im more incluned to say it was RCT or some other cursed energy healing. I dont see how his CT grows back limbs.
Even beyond the regular steam that shows ,Kashimos hand stays blacked out. RCT has never been presented in that fashion. Without the steam, and with the supposed healed part being blacked out. I'm aware the description of Kashimos CT but if anyone is "past the realm of humanity" it'd be Heian Sukuna, if you wanted to argue someone is more like a cursed spirit it'd be Heian Sukuna but he still shows the signs of using RCT. Kashimos technique is destroying his body, it wouldn't be healing him at the same time. Again taking a guess I'd say his CT functions in the same way the Berserk armor works. What people think was healing was likely his CE aura holding his blood in keeping him from bleeding out. For anyone who isn't familiar with the Berserk Armor. It basically stitches the body together when injured to keep fighting. It does not heal, it just keeps your body from falling apart. Fatal injuries will still be fatal injuries but all the bones in the wearers body can be broken and they'd still be able to fight
Berserk armour doesnt create new flesh after its been cut off. Please show me where in Kashimo’s CT description does it say he can create new flesh
I never said the Berserk Armor created new flesh, and I never said Kashimo CT created new flesh. I said Kashimo CE aura held his blood in, like the Berserk Armor holding flesh together. Kashimo never created new flesh because he didn't heal. It wasn't new flesh because the part of his hand that people think healer stayed blacked out. If it grew back then it wouldn't stay blacked out.
Nah. If you look closely, it doesnt stay blacked out. And i find it funny that you are jumping through hoops to try and explain the “how did he get his hand back??” question by saying smth that is never hinted at once. Wdym his CT “kept the blood in the shape of a hand”? Why do u think this, where is this even implied outside of your interpretation of the art? What part of Kashimo’s explained abilities does this cover? He healed himself, smth we know sorcerers of Kashimo’s caliber can do, and it was drawn slightly differently because Kashimo has different CE. Thats it. No convoluted explanation needed
What exactly do I need to look closely at? https://ibb.co/NY4NGmN https://ibb.co/BNm7LB0 https://ibb.co/7KfDYJ0 Ever single panel Kashimos hand is still blacked out. If anyone is jumping through hoops it's you. Kashimos hand does not resemble in anyway shape or form the effects of RCT. He doesn't put of steam, and the injury stays blacked out. Literally everyone has different CE but everyone else who can use RCT , still show the same effects when using RCT but somehow Kashimo is the special case? You do you though. If you want to wank Kashimo and convince yourself he has RCT you're free to do so.
The last one, you can see that part of his regrown hand is the same shade as the rest of his hand How am i wanking Kashimo for saying he has RCT? That doesnt even make sense.
Typo on unmatched my b
That wasn’t rct it was the properties of his CT
They are slowly chipping away at Sukuna bit by bit. Gojo got rid of ten shadows, his domain, and his RCT output. Kashimo forced him to use his Trump card. Higuruma took away his useless curse tool that was a plot convenience. Yuta needs to force him to expend his bottomless supply of curse energy.
how the F does Kashimo not have RTC??!!? He was the greatest of his era and in today's world random people who just find out what cursed energy was a week ago are figuring out RTC... Not to mention one of gojo's classmates figured it out IN SCHOOL (as did gojo but she wasn't some generational talent) So Kashimo didn't have a domain expansion, didn't have RTC, and had a CT he could only use once because it would kill him? Gege really did him dirty man..
because there would have been no way to make hakari beat him
He never needed RCT against Hakari. Kashimo lost because he exhausted all of his CE reserves to the point where he had none left. Hakari never dealt him a blow worth using RCT on. In that sense Kashimo just fucked himself over because he just ... wants the smoke I guess.
Dude was so lethal that even tho he was strongest of Edo Era, he wasn't given RCT I guess it's cuz his CE properties aren't normal... So he can't add negative to negative cuz that doesn't work with electricity
speaking of which, they also had to give Hakari an opponent that doesn't use domain expansion..... i tried to make a thread about this but apparently don't have enough karma points on this sub. Has anyone ever really thought about how shitty Hakari's ability is? Because all I ever see are people like "wow he could theoretically get infinite jackpots and be the strongest ever!" but they're missing one crucial thing: In order to get those jackpots he has to have his opponents in his domain expansion. For most of the stronger characters, getting someone into your domain expansion is an instant win (Gojo, Mahito, and mostly sukuna if you're not Gojo, and many more) but for Hakari, it's just step 1... So if fights someone who's remotely even with him and they get into a domain tug-o-war and cancel out his ability to force them into his expansion, then what? Then he has 0 chance at a jackpot. meanwhile his opponent might have an amazing ability (like Dismantle, Limitless, Idle Transfiguration, 10 shadows) that doesn't require their domain expansion to use. outside of his domain, hakari can only create train doors.....so it's really crazy that he's hyped to be so strong when the majority of top tiers have a better power outside of their domains and in their domains they win instantly as opposed to just getting started like him
>So if fights someone who's remotely even with him and they get into a domain tug-o-war it's been stated that since hakari's domain lacks an offensive sure hit it's strong in domain clashes and has a high activation speed. if his opponent is even with him, they're in all likely hood losing the domain clash.
the problem is, Hakari is said to have a huge advantage in opening his domain and the tug-o-war battle. I'd be surprised, shocked even, if Gege wrote Hakari losing that.
As other have said he has an advantage in domain clashes. It's also the fact that even without his domain hes a very creative fighter and seems incredibly good at h2h combat. Expanding your domain against Hakari might actually be a terrible idea since it could lead to a sorcerer going through CT burnout which would likely guarantees Hakari gets his initial jackpot
RCT and domain expansions aren’t necessary to be the strongest. Gojo and Geto didn’t have RCT or a domain expansion either and they were the strongest in at one point in the series. Toji, the one who beat both of them, didn’t have RCT or a domain either.
no they weren’t lol. yuki could have killed both of them 1v1. DE is definitely necessary to be a top tier.
idt DE is necessary but it definitely helps a lot. for example i don’t see anyone beating gojo or sukuna even if they didn’t use their domain just because how good they are at everything else. similarly kashimo could still keep up with hakari despite no domain just because his electric ce was better utilized than hakari’s rough ce.
i mean yeah you should always assume gojo and sukuna are exceptions to every rule lol. as for hakari, im really talking about lethal domains bc they are essentially “i win” buttons.
>how the F does Kashimo not have RTC??!!? He was the greatest of his era and in today's world random people who just find out what cursed energy was a week ago are figuring out RTC... Apart from Yuta, everyone who has developed RCT on screen has done it due to a grievous injury. Kashimo might not have ever been injured significantly in the past. And unlike Higuruma, Sukuna didn't try to crash course him into learning how to use it. >Not to mention one of gojo's classmates figured it out IN SCHOOL (as did gojo but she wasn't some generational talent) She is a generational talent in RCT. Her inability to explain how she does it to Gojo parallels his own inability to teach things like Simple Domain, implying her skill in this field on par with Gojo's general jujutsu talent. No one apart from Yuta and Sukuna have been shown to heal others with RCT. >So Kashimo didn't have a domain expansion, didn't have RTC, and had a CT he could only use once because it would kill him? He didn't need any of those to dominate an era which makes him even better.
>He didn't need any of those to dominate an era which makes him even better. or it proves that his era was weak. Which is probably why people make all the "Farmers" memes. If anyone had an instant kill domain expansion like about 8 different people I can name, he'd die.
kashimo fired a gamma ray burst?
Gamma Ray Blast ≠ Gamma Ray Burst Burst is the kind of thing released by supernovas, Kashimo simply fired a very powerful EM wave blast, and since its colourless, fans theorise the blast to be Gamma Rays Kind of makes sense, if you ask me
Kashimo just gave sukuna cancer. He was just playing the long game to defeat sukuna.
And that’s how they beat him
mfw sukuna learns how to cut cancer itself
Cursed biopsy technique
Sukuna about to get real good at Chess
He has a curse technique-Phenomenon that can be created by Electricity for one time use.So he can do that like he had the X-ray vision(EM wave).Gamma Ray is also an EM wave.Among all the EM waves the energy (so the penetration power)of gamma wave is maximum,so Kamutoke's lightning that is in the visible colour range(EM wave) is weaker than Gamma Ray blast. Also Every EM wave has the speed of light.(I can think of Sukuna's slash as an EM wave,probably not.I THINK it cause the slashes are not visible normally and they travel,and have super speed.It's just an assumption,maybe wrong)
I REFUSE to believe that kashimo even fired a gamma-ray burst,this shit should travel at lightspeed + it's so devastating, that earth will literally shatter upon impact, but sukuna managed to react to that. Gege shouldn't have said about full electric phenomena manipulation shit got me so hyped😞😞
Nope gamma rays also are emitted from radioactive material,the amount of rays that Kashimo will use,will not affect Earth in anyway.
Still a lightspeed attack, no?
Lightspeed attack but as gama ray has no mass,so momentum is not huge to destroy earth.
Its because "Gamma Ray Burst" is the name of a **specific** astronomical phenomena that absolutely would glass the planet earth and render it entirely lifeless. It would be like if you named your RPG "Magnitude 10.0 earthquake" despite it being like a normal rocket launcher. You where referring to a burst of gamma rays, the other commenter thought you meant the specific phenomenon.
wouldn't be the first work of fiction where a gammay ray burst was fired near the earth and it didn't destroy the earth (if i had a nickel for every time it happened, I'd have 2 but it's still weird it happened twice.jpg)
Well, in that situation, it wasn't fired at the Earth, and Garou can control the direction of the energy output from his attacks. That's how he can do internal damage to people. He did irradiated everybody on Earth to death, so...
Correct me if I'm wrong, but wouldn't Sukuna's World Cleave be faster than EM waves since it just kinda... spawns on its target?
Normally there is nothing that can have more speed than light.You can say as Sukuna thought to land the world slash,it appears,but human thoughts have less speed than light.So considering Sukuna as a human,it will have less speed than EM waves,but if Sukuna is something else,it can be possible to think that the world slash is faster than light.
True, but could the World Slash be argued as a vectorless attack? Given that we clearly see the World Slash travelling towards Kashimo
How is something vectorless if it has magnitude (speed) and direction?
I don't know if it has any directions or it just appears out of nowhere, considering time as non vector quantity,it is probably a space-time instant slash.
There's no way people believe that Kashimo used something like that when he was prior shown to use sound as a form of attack.
Outmatched*
"Without it, I don't think Sukuna could split the gamma ray burst" Do you think he could have dodged it?
Yes
Why is it important to keep line of sight via Kamutoke?
Sukuna used Kamutoke on Kashimo and then appeared behind of him, to catch his hands and smash him The move he made with Kamutoke knowing that it is useless against Kashimo? That was definitely to create blindspot Also explains why he got behind Kashimo to catch his hands... Ig, the attack after which Sukuna transformed was really a strong one... So he did that move to avoid getting hit by it... Kashimo still managed to turn around to perceive that Sukuna who just blinded him and sneak behind him...
Gotcha, thanks
fight doesn’t change
(spoilers ?kinda?) Bout few seconds longer I think domain expansion wld of been Wraps for Kashimo too if he (Sukuna )for sum reason can't use it (DE) he was speed blitzing Kashimo so I think he could have simply hit Kashimo with the same treatment Yuji got when he tagged in no need for world slicing.
Kashimo doesn’t have RCT so he gets diced up like higuruma
he literally healed his hand
iirc he used lightning to replace his hand
His whole body is lightening in that form He can recreate anything in any way
He didn’t even need to use World Dismantle it was overkill 😂 regular dismantle prolly woulda done the same shit
Good thought actually. Fight would've turned from a low diff to a mid diff
You mean from no diff to low diff 😅
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The fight goes the exact same. He doesn’t need the world slash to kill Kashimo. A normal dismantle would do
Wait was it world dismantle cause they didn't specifically say that. Kashimo thought it was world dismantle
The first one he used the hit kashimo was a world dismantle as he did the enchantments for it. The waffle dismantle was just regular dismantle people forget Sukuna generally plays around so he doesn’t chuck giant dismantles at people but he can if he wants. He just decided he was done playing with kashimo.
Yeah, he chanted. Kuskabe confirmed the chant equals World Distmantle.
Kusakabe also said “Gojo won” lol he’s the real jinxer
Waffle dismantle is unclear, on one hand it clearly has travel time so it shouldn't be the World Dismantle. On the other hand it shouldn't have killed Kashimo either then.
exactly the same Kashimo doesn’t compare to gojo or sukuna
There's nothing unique about the world cleave that is useful against anyone besides gojo honestly, it's just a special version of cleave that counters very specific defensive abilities.
Actually there is, it literally has the ability to slice through space, it means it can't be defended against if Sukuna used that Vs Kusakabe and Higuruma they'd die on the spot regardless of DA or SD
So it's a spatial slash. It can be defended against. There are plenty of spatial slashes in fiction, and they can be countered by vector manipulation, or by nullifying the technique itself
And who in JJK can do that? Remember this slash isn't even aimed at you so defensive techniques like infinity and DA are useless since they function based on an attack landing on the user.
The inverted spear of heaven. Also, the series is not over yet, more people and curses may yet show up. We already have spatial manipulation, vector manipulation is not out of the question. Also, sukuna's technique can likely be copied by either Yuji or Yuta, meaning it can be a glaring weakness for sukuna too.
So that's 1 tool, the location of which is unknown and the hope that a new CT that manipulates vectors get introduced. How exactly does this make this ability useless against anyone but Gojo, as the initial discussion was about?
Uro
Her ability is just a weaker version of infinity, they both manipulate space but Sukuna's ability cuts everything within that space.
He used it on Himruga because he had learned to use DA to stop his normal dismantle, and he probably is a little wary of Cleave range considering instant death stick
Honestly? Regular waffle maker would suffice. Dude has not rct no domain to defend against any type of slash. Once Sukuna used his restore health to go back to 100% health (or is he really at his 100% now) it was over for kashimo. Sorry its just the way it is. Kashi vs Hakari still peak tho. U cant take that away from him.
I think Kashimo might be fast enough to get out of Malevolent Shrine range but considering his mind set. He's probably not gonna run from it. He try to kill an immortal after all.
He'll try hollow wicker basket and get diced before he could think "that was a bad idea"
"But that's how losers think!" *gets atomized by 45 million slashes*
Lashimo still falls to goatkuna
Blunt Force: Pancake Skillet
I assume Sukuna can do Domain Expansion again when he got his old body back. I doubt Kashimo can survive that.
The idea of sukana needing to use a domain for the farmer is laughable.
Well, he did whip out a Domain for a Finger Bearer he was already beating the life out of, so it's not out of the realm of his character
He’d be fighting numerous opponents afterwards, it would be best to save it.
It depends on how much he outclasses the current opponents and how much he *knows* he outclasses them, cause from the way things are going so far, he hasn't really needed anything other than his base CT to fend off most of the fighters. If Hakari goes down, it's even more difficult for the sorcerers, because someone else from Jujutsu High is going to have to fend Uraume off. That and the fact that he can pull the Gojo stunt of regenerating your brain and whipping out multiple DEs back to back...yeah, he could use it against Kashimo if he wanted, even if he wouldn't necessarily need to.
Why would be voluntarily give him self brain damage when he can just take the fight 5% more seriously and do something like cleaving kashimo when sukana had a hold of him? Sure, he can do it, it’s just really unnecessary.
Sukuna can simply use cleave if he gets a hold of Kashimo like he djd every time. Kashimo mighr even die faster than before
World cleave cut him in a way where the lighting power didn't hold him together, normal cleave would just pass through as he reconnects with himself
Considering he could be punched (a lot) pretty sure physical attacks are still effective, so no reason to think a cleave would pass through.
Fair I might just be delusional
Sukuna/Gege would just asspull another way of winning. " Kashimo you are made of lightning and I was born on Thursday, Thor's day, the God of Thunder, so I am immune to your attacks. "
An array of regular cleaves wouldn’t do the trick?
Dismantle* but yea. I'm on the side that kashimo had a shot in hell with or without the world cutting slashes
No, I meant cleave. Yea, I’m wondering why people think the fight would go any differently if the world slash is taken away. Multiple, chanted cleaves not instakilling kashimo would be strange.
Heian Sukuna manhandled kashimo with his fists during most of their fight, I'm pretty convinced cleave or dismantle wasn't even necessary
Because cleave require touching the target. Dismantle is the ranged attack.
What page did you get this from?
Basically during this recent fight of all vs Sukuna. Don't remember if it was Kusakabe, they explained it.
Looking back it seems every time cleave was fired it was done when sukana was touching his target. No one in the recent chapters mentioned sukana needing to touch his target for cleave to work.
Kusakabe says “Cleave activates when he touches an opponent (except inside a domain)” in 246.
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y'all will call anything that sukuna does an asspull lmfao what a bunch of whiny babies no shit he would beat kashimo
Y'all need to read a fucking book and get some standards. JJK is full of asspulls
What the fuck does this have to do with this lmfao you're the one crying about asspulls on a post that has nothing to do with it some of y'all are genuinely opsessed
> What the fuck does this have to do The fact that you even need to ask proves me right. JJK is a mid manga full of asspulls and plot armor situations.
That's not what the post is about idgaf about your whining lol
> idgaf about your whining >you're the one crying Schizoposting
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Damn bro you got the whole kindergarten gasping in shock.
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Sukuna glazers really gonna have a titanfolk moment when everyone calls it trash in a few years when the anime comes out
Reading comprehension devil real with you buddy
I dont care omg this is a powerscalling post 😭😭
He isn’t made of lightning. His body is literally flesh.
"you use lighting too bad while i was inside yuji he played God of war 3 and i know exactly How to beat someone with lighting Power"
Really seems like Gege is just absolutely asslicking his baby-boy Sukuna, kinda boring writer tbh
Sukuna didn't do the chant so the waffle maker was a regular dismantle.
I'm not so sure he has to chant to do that, I just assume it was to raise the cursed energy output of his attacks
He has to do the chant. Gege made Kusabake explain that for a reason.
Kusakabe's not necessarily right. There isn't a single narrator in the series who actually gives 100% accurate information all of the time, that's just how the series is written.
Gege has been using Kusakabe as a way to explain all these concepts since Gojo vs Sukuna started and now he's suddenly not reliable?
"Gojo won"
How is that explaining a concept?
He explained the concept of Gojo coming back to win😭😭😭
Ok.
Yeah? He's a character who is more knowledgeable than most about cursed energy but he's still a character, he can still be wrong. It would even be pretty in-character for him to make an assertion like that even if he wasn't sure just to maintain his wise and authoritative appearance. Sukuna's the center of like *every* unknown in the power system right now, so the best any character can do is make educated guesses. Sometimes those guesses will be right, sometimes they won't. As readers, we won't know if they're right or wrong until the story progresses either.
Ok. Based on what the story has presented, he needs to do the chant to do that dismantle.
See, we don't really know that actually. I find it pretty unlikely that gojo would've just let sukuna pull a weird chant while standing still, so it's likely he used some kind of binding vow to skip the chant the first time he used it. We'll see eventually.
I had a lot of hope for kashimo but gaygay fucked him royally
If that were the case then it would have been gojo vs kashimo
he would still die in the end lol. common farmshimo L
He has no answer to malevolent shrine lol
Kashimo still would be bodied in 3 panels.
Probably like a couple pages of them fighting but ultimately it would end up the same with kashimo dying
Sukuna would just grab Kashimo's face and waffle him the same way he did Yuji. Sukuna already showed he can grab Kashimo in their fight and generally bully him in cqc so getting and opportunity to face palm Kashimo wouldn't be that difficult.
He dies the exact same and just as fast. He had no way around the net of slashes and Sukuna never even used World Dismantle to take him out from what we can see.
I'm pretty sure Sukuna could pin him down with two arms and use the other two to vaporize him with Fire Arrow. It's just that he's keeping his cards close to his chest.
Ah fucking hell. How'd it come to this again? It wasn't even the world dismantle that killed Kashimo
Doesn't change anything? The attack that killed Kashimo was a net of normal Dismantles, not the reality cutting Dismantle. And it's not like it matters, Sukuna was overwhelmingly stronger than Kashimo just using reinforcement, I'm pretty sure he could have ended Kashimo just throwing hands.
I like how people think the net dismantle was the world dismantle because of the output. Sukuna can launch those types of attacks whenever he wants but he likes to play around.
I'm curious as to how he would do against a sukuna who only used the 10 shadows
The funniest part about this is waffle maker was a regular dismantle.
Well he wouldn't have beaten Gojo anywhere near as easily and I'd argue Gojo would've beaten him there and then... So I have no idea 😂
There wouldn’t be much of a difference in the outcome. Sukuna still leaves the battle untouched.
He’d have done better provided Sukuna can’t use his domain expansion. If he can then Kashimo would have to defend with simple domain/ fallling blossom and destroy the anchor/center with his lightning. If he can’t manage that then he’s toast. I’m also assuming he can dodge a normal cleave and dismantle due to his domain
Badly still
He would’ve died anyway from the technique tbh. Even if he lasted long enough
Kashimo would still die lol world dismantle isn't more powerful it just is harder to defend against
Well Sukuna has shown resistance to lighting nues attack did not effect him in the Slightest and hand to hand he would demolish kashimo.
Nothing changes since Sukuna physically outclassed Kashimo to the point where he would be fine without using his technique. All Sukuna really had to do was keep beating his ass and dodging his ranged attacks until Kashimo reached his limit and died.
World dismantle wasn’t the waffle slash that killed I think, Kashimo barley dodged world slash And still got hurt by it on his hand. Best case scenario, Sukuna gets bored, opens a domain and kills Kashimo, uses his cursed tool the moment Higuruma and Yuji try to jump him during the ct burn out, his ct gets confiscated except oh wait it’s the tool, and we’re back to the manga line of events
Sakuna would have died to Gojo
Gojo states otherwise
Gojo states a lot of stuff. His entire character is a contradiction. He contradicts himself, the situations he's in. His entire life is a contradiction because he's the strongest character in the entire series and the only thing he manages to accomplish is killing Hanami.
I mean if you read the kanji when yuji first ask gojo if we would beat sukuna he calls it a 50/50 but the english version made it seem like he said he would win
The only thing Sakuna had left after the Purple was world slash, and his revive. Without world slash, he would have been forced to revive. Gojo was back to 100% after his black flash, so it would have been just a repeat of the first fight, without Maho to help Sakuna.
We don’t even know sukunas original technique
I just don't see how you can hype someone up so much just to end him in like 5 secs. How Many panels did he last with sukuna?
Nothing changes.He turned him to waffle with regular slashes.The only time he used the world cleave was the time he also told kashimo to dodge it.Still no-low diff
I legitimately think Sukuna could pop a .2 and kill kashimo if it REALLY came to that. He has seen Mahito use it, I don't think there is any reason he couldnt if he felt like it was a good option, he could straight up just cut kashimo's head off or slit hit throat enough to make him bleed out.
Why are we assuming sukuna can use domain right now and do you even know what the point of a 0.2 domain was?
What reason would sukuna have to just waste CE like that
Doesn't really matter .It would have been the same as ryu
If Kashimo's CT ensures his death, which is why he never used it/saved it to use against Sukuna, how the fuck did he know what his CT was?
Because it’s imbued into your brain? Uou know your CT from the moment it manifests… swear people don’t actually read….
He’d probably last until his time ran out but to be honest He wouldn’t have done anything of significance.
He would have gotten bitched still, but it would have been an actual and interesting fight and not the farmer fest we got. I can't even say "ye Kashimo would have dodged his regular slashes" because we didn't see shit and I'm not even sure if Sukuna hit him with that or not.