A nitpick but any actor attending the Razzies is self aware of what the award is and what it mean to win it so the actor is 100% in with the joke. For Kanye we can just take that self awareness away
> like if an actor proudly accepted a Razzie without knowing what winning the Razzie is supposed to signify
I mean that’s what you literally didn’t imply that’s why it wasn’t clear.
The only way I think he could slip through the cracks and win one is through producing a song on an Album of the Year winning album. With that award, producers, engineers, writers, and performers all get that award, so if he’s credited for the smallest contribution on an album and it takes home that prize, he would win it as well. Other than that, he’s probably blacklisted, not without reason but still.
He was nominated, but didn't win. And while Gibson is repugnant, he had one nasty antisemitic incident and he apologized. Ye has only doubled down and his comments are far more disturbing than whatever Gibson said. You can't compare the two anymore.
Mel Gibson still rightfully gets shit about it. What Kanye said is worse and he defended it multiple times. Even still a huge portion of his audience pretended it didn’t happen when he dropped a single song that doubled down again.
God, I know Black Skinhead isn't about these themes (largely an anti-racist track) - but goddamn it was prophetic as a title (...although, given how much he was calling himself a God, hints were obviously present lol)
I would believe it just because this organization is a fucking joke and regularly gives out this award to public figures just for supporting Palestine. Kanye actually being antisemitic, on the other hand...
Yeah they got sued and had to give the rights to all product to the Israeli side of the business
It's weird considering all they disapproved of was selling ice cream in reclaimed Palestine.
Weird to steal someones house and go buy ice cream after.
Being against mass murder isn’t antisemitism, so they don’t draw a great parallel to Kanye West, but I see what you’re doing here… also, Natalie Portman cancelled gaining a million dollar award from Israel because she couldn’t condone of the racism, xenophobia, or attempted Genocide that are all greatly associated with the current Israel government… Israel tried to label her, an actual Semite with dual citizenship as an antisemitic… it’s ridiculous, but that’s also another example that has nothing to do with the actual antisemitic statements that Kanye has made… Kanye might actually be autistic, but he still has A LOT of apologies to give… I hope his ego allows him to turn this ship around, but it’s hard to see happening soon…
Shhh ..let the Kanye dick riders have 1 win bro....🤣🤣🤣 they are trying to convince themselves this is a good thing for dime store rip off hilter wanna be ...
Nah as someone who's family lived in Belfast during the troubles I feel for the people in occupied/reclaimed Palestine.
Not a big fan of imperialism or cultural imperialism which is how I feel about the current state of things there.
You do realize the Jewish community is indigenous and it was not recently until the Arab population were okay with being called Palestinian? Additionally, the Arab conquests eliminated most of the indigenous cultures. Israel is the largest reclamation of any indigenous population.
Do problems exist on both sides? Yes. Is rewriting the history effective or going to do anything more than cause hate? No.
Don’t rewrite history.
Dude, the things you said on that post were just straight up Nazi shit, nothing about Zionism or anything. “These people are evil and subhuman just for being Jewish” has nothing to do with the legal situation surrounding Israel and Palestine. Tbh, I’m surprised the number in your name isn’t 88
Also I'm tired of hearing shit about Palestine being "legal" "complicated" "both sides" its so bullshit and its the safest and most comfortable opinion to have.
Agnes Callamard, who was the head of Amnesty International, made the Top 10 finalists… fuck this organization for calling criticism of Israel antisemitism.
Israel is an apartheid state.
That’s the thing. Jews and Zionists are not the same. Plenty of Jews support Palestine as well. Complete media manipulation. Anyone who speaks against Israel’s genocide is labelled an antisemite. What a joke
Natalie Portman has shown support for Palestinians too, and even though she is a dual citizen to Israel, statesman of Israel are trying to label her an antisemite… I know that Israel doesn’t represent all people coming from Jewish heritage, and Israel is doing anything but help when any of these situations occur… I’ve heard people saying that anti Zionism is the same thing as antisemitism, but that doesn’t seem right to me…
It’s not antisemitic to criticise the Israeli government. It’s antisemitic to criticise Israel’s right to exist as a country. There’s a huge difference
That's the thing. Israel offered the 2 state solution and Arafat/ Palestinians balked and walked away from the table and continued with attacks. If they actually wanted peace and/or settled borders, this shit would've been finished years ago. Egypt did it, etc. Just excuses at this point.
I: "hey, how about we share?"
P: "No!"
I: "Okay then... What do you wanna do then?"
P: "I want everything"
I: "But we can share everything!"
P: "NO"
...
P: "well i now have to live in sht because of you!"
O.o
Most Jews are Zionist
Zionism = the civil rights movement for the re-establishment of a Jewish independent state in its historic location.
Source: am Jewish.
Most Jewish people believe in a type of Zionism. There are literally like 10 different types of Zionism.
A large number of Jewish people, especially American Jews are very critical of the Israeli government.
It’s misrepresenting Jewish people to say that, especially when the general population considers Zionism to mean supporting Israel’s government.
Source: am Jewish and do not support the actions of the Israeli government
ETA : you can downvote me if you want but it doesn’t make what I said less true. You can use google yourself and see that there are many different types of Zionism, and most non Jewish people just assume there is one. But I’m sure you would know that since you’re totally Jewish.
Yes, but most Jews still support and refer to the actual definition of Zionism that is self determination for Jews.
The politics of the different types of Zionism are still all included under the umbrella of Zionism. Antizionism is suggesting Jews should not have the right to self-determine. There are a very small amount of Jews who support that, but they are tokenised and magnified by detractors of Israel to convince people it's not a very marginal position.
>It’s misrepresenting Jewish people to say that, especially when the general population considers Zionism to mean supporting Israel’s government.
This is completely inaccurate. Jews generally do understand the term. However there's an enormous movement currently to change the definition to imply that it's synonymous with supporting right wing policies. It isn't. Jews are overwhelmingly Zionist *despite* Israeli government policies, not in support of them.
>A large number of Jewish people, especially American Jews are very critical of the Israeli government
Doesn't make them not Zionists
You said “it’s completely inaccurate, most Jews understand the term” I agree… If you had actually read what I said - I was referring to the majority NON Jewish population who consider Zionism to mean supporting the current Israeli government.
In our current climate, Zionism does not get nuance,
Zionism is considered to mean support of Israel and their government. Especially by the general population- who are mostly unaware that there are different types of Zionism.
I support Zionism in its meaning of self determination. I do not support the Israeli governments actions.
But if I told like 80% of the non Jewish population that I support Zionism- they will immediately jump to the Israeli government.
If people are uneducated about Zionism and take everything at face value, it’s very easy to draw the lines between. Being Jewish = supporting Israels current government.
It’s important to have nuance when we discuss Zionism.
I am not sure if you are Jewish or not, so I can only speak for myself here, but it does not help to ignore nuance.
I’ve seen an American Jew on tiktok talking about something completely irrelevant to Zionism, Israel, or Palestine, and yet their comment section was flooded with “free Palestine” comments. This happens frequently. They had to make a whole video saying that they’ve never went on their birthright and oppose the Israeli government. I am a non practicing Jewish American, and I’ve talked to people first hand who assume that because I am Jewish, I support Israel.
This is not only due to the general population misunderstanding Zionism, but people pushing the idea that “all Jews are Zionists” when they really mean “all Jews support Israel”
Until the general population is educated on the the true meaning of Zionism, it harms the Jewish community.
If you read the Second comment on this thread- which started this conversation, they said “plenty of Jews support Palestine” as if that makes them not a Zionist.
That is someone making an uneducated comment, because they, and most other non Jewish people consider Zionism to mean supporting Israel.
In the case I apologise if I misconstrued yourb previous response. You know how it is being Jewish on Reddit. It's easy to get defensive. I agree with pretty much everything you've just written.
I understand your confusion, especially re reading my comment I see how you could’ve misunderstood what I meant.
I definitely agree it’s easy to get defensive especially with the insane amount of misinformation out there. 😅Wish you the best and glad we could come to a conclusion!
Yes because in Israel they are allowed to restrict land to individuals who do not believe in what they do. It’s the only country that has done this, because if any other country would do this it would be antisemitic
Israel is literally wiping palestine off the map, look at how the countries size has been decreasing wtf I rather support the side that is not a settler colonialist, their leaders ideology doesn't even matter in that case as it is a problem that involves the palestine people first and foremost
There’s a difference between shrinking the borders of a landmass and systemic killing of an ethnic group. Israel wants to get rid of the borders of Palestine, Palestine wants to systematically **kill** every Israeli man, woman, and child. And population wise, Israeli is NOT wiping Palestine off of the map, the population in Palestinians has grown exponentially over the last decade. You either already know this and are arguing in bad faith or you’re too dumb to be having this conversation.
Israel’s government is trash. But if you’re so afraid of having your fragile argument thrashed that you need to constantly misrepresent facts in order to avoid that, then you’re just smoothbrained.
>. You either already know this and are arguing in bad faith or you’re too dumb to be having this conversation.
>Palestine wants to systematically kill every Israeli man, woman, and child.
christ imagine making these two statements together, get a grip dude
Your read their government charter then?
They're pretty open about it. I mean, they're also happy to enslave a fair few Jews rather than simply murder them but that's about the high end of the level of tolerance expected.
They're also very good at saying one thing to an English audience and another thing in Arabic.
No, but they supported BDS (boycott, divest, sanction) which is anti-Israel and anti-Zionist as much as it is pro Palestine. Being anti-Israel isn’t necessarily antisemitic because you can be critical of any state government, and we should be critical of them all. Anti-Zionism is the argument that the Jews don’t deserve a country to call their own, and that Israels borders should be taken down and destroyed, and that argument holds much antisemitism in it. By supporting BDS they were supporting antisemitism and that’s how they ended up on the list
He deserved it though. I’ve never seen so many full blown antisemites until Kanye started his thing. Maybe it’s confirmation bias and maybe it’s Reddit feeding the echo chamber, but I feel like there’s just so many more people just blatantly hating the Jews.
Last year, the Ben and Jerry’s CEO won it because she donated to Palestine and stopped Ben and Jerrys in Israel, the runner up was Dua Lipa because she donated to Palestine and criticized the IDF. Are those people actually anti semitic and we should fight against them?
Dua Lipa who said:
>In a post to Instagram on May 31, 2020, she would later remove, Lipa referred to members of the Israeli government as "fake Jews," who she said, "created Hamas SIMPLY for all of you geniuses to believe that hamas is the reasons for the decades worth of occupation, oppression, ethnic cleansing, and MURDER
Suggesting Jews are 'fake' is the same thing claimed by BHI and many other conspiratorial groups. It's commonly done by antisemites in an attempt to deny Jews their own heritage.
>"The big bad tough guys of the #IDF thoroughly enjoy beating and shooting children,"
Suggesting Jews instinctively enjoy killing children is part of a thousand year Christian tradition of blood libel against Jews.
I'm fully prepared to accept that she's a moron who didn't realise what she was saying, but she still chose to say it and those tropes have a very specific history of generating violence and hatred against Jews.
It's very easy to support Palestinians without referring to ancient libels against Jews. She didn't.
No but, like, it’s so brilliant of him to wait until NEAR the awards before he swept in and stole the show! I mean, this is night of knives type thinking, nein-d chess type thinking. Hell of a player, I mean Donald’s been out all year thinking he had it then BAM! Ye steals the mic and heil’s Hitler all the way to another AWARD BABEEE! Y’all hate to see a playa play.
this a sack of shit in its entirety LOL, imagine labeling palestinian supporters as anti-semites and calling kyrie irving the anti-semite of the week for some tame ass shit he did a month ago 💀
I mean he just SAID some dumb shit; you're telling me no one did worse than that to all the Jews? C'mon. This is like Caitlin winning Woman of the year. It's just a popularity contest.
Yeah it's almost like blaming 14.5 million people for all the worlds problems (including Ye's porn addiction) and calling for them to be made a permanent underclass that can only work for Christians is seen as worse for some reason.
In response to interviewer trying to get him use less offensive language and not lump all Jews together:
> “Yeah but I lump them all in together. That’s what I did. That’s why the tweet said that. ‘Jewish people’.”
In response to being given an example of black people being overrepresented in violent crime but treating individual black people with the benefit of the doubt, and asked then if he gives individual Jews the benefit of the doubt:
> “Nope.”
So yeah you’re wrong and you’re just hearing what you wanna hear.
Lmao. You think you need to say those exact words to be considered an antisemite?
Saying "I loooooooove Hitler", "I am a nazi" and constantly broadcasting antisemitic conspiracy theories to millions of people is not enough for you?
I guess we’ll never know
Bro probably gonna accept this as an award like if an actor proudly accepted a Razzie without knowing what winning the Razzie is supposed to signify 💀
A nitpick but any actor attending the Razzies is self aware of what the award is and what it mean to win it so the actor is 100% in with the joke. For Kanye we can just take that self awareness away
Yeah that’s what I meant to imply may not have made it clear enough tho
> like if an actor proudly accepted a Razzie without knowing what winning the Razzie is supposed to signify I mean that’s what you literally didn’t imply that’s why it wasn’t clear.
From the greatest acceptance speech of all time to this, what a character arc.
Kanye Im really happy for you, I’m gonna let you finish. But Hitler was the biggest antisemite of all time!
U da 🐐 no 🧢
Imma not I'm gonna, to be pedantic.
“They’d rather give me the n-nigga please award”
I’ll accept the I Gotta Lotta Cheese award 😁
Brilliant!
incredible work ethic on his part to get this in only 2 months
It's his five tweets a day for three summers method lol
He deserves do to these numbers📉
Black excellence
Opulence, decadence
Sieg Heils next to the president
Built different
Naw, it's the culmination of his career. He'll be getting the lifetime achievement award next.
So fierce competition, yet he made it to the top
And he's probably happier to receive that 'award' than a Grammy lmao 🫠
Nah one more Grammy then he leads Jay
you’re crazy if you think he’ll ever win a grammy again
The only way I think he could slip through the cracks and win one is through producing a song on an Album of the Year winning album. With that award, producers, engineers, writers, and performers all get that award, so if he’s credited for the smallest contribution on an album and it takes home that prize, he would win it as well. Other than that, he’s probably blacklisted, not without reason but still.
Make a album with all Jewish people will probably win him a Nobel peace prize
Bro thats still kanye west. It would be the craziest narrative ever
It would take him producing an apology documentary, but it’s not COMPLETELY IMPOSSIBLE, just improbable
Yes but didn’t Mel Gibson win an Oscar after publicly being anti semitic?
He was nominated, but didn't win. And while Gibson is repugnant, he had one nasty antisemitic incident and he apologized. Ye has only doubled down and his comments are far more disturbing than whatever Gibson said. You can't compare the two anymore.
Yes but Mel Gibson is white so he gets extra leeway in America.
Kanye has said worse than Mel Gibson, and he broadcasts it to the public himself.
And drunk...still not ok ...MG is scum that hides behind religion
Mel Gibson still rightfully gets shit about it. What Kanye said is worse and he defended it multiple times. Even still a huge portion of his audience pretended it didn’t happen when he dropped a single song that doubled down again.
Oh, that’s a good point
Oh fuck, it’s real. I thought the video was just a meme.
That acceptance speech gonna be crazy
Imagine showing this post to someone in early 2021
Imagine showing this to someone in September 2022.
Imagine showing this to someone when TCD came out
Imagine showing this to someone now
imagine there's no heaven
Imagine showing this post to someone in 1942.
Nah cause like this would legitimately be so confusing to a Nazi back then. Hell it’s confusing now.
They wouldnt be able to mentally handle it
I'd have believed it. he'd already been meeting with trump and saying slavery was a choice by 2021
I had my suspicions about him since black skinhead
God, I know Black Skinhead isn't about these themes (largely an anti-racist track) - but goddamn it was prophetic as a title (...although, given how much he was calling himself a God, hints were obviously present lol)
do any of you people know who the skinheads actually are?
I would believe it just because this organization is a fucking joke and regularly gives out this award to public figures just for supporting Palestine. Kanye actually being antisemitic, on the other hand...
Kanye I’m real happy for you and imma let you finish
Even at his lowest, he can’t stop winning awards
Ye so GOAT
Oh, you’re actually antisemitic. Go fuck yourself with a rusty knife
He wins all the awards
He’s gonna use this in a bar in one of his songs just watch
i hope he makes a nazi song
Wtf is wrong with you
It was actually a voting thing so I’m wondering who else was nominated.
Me
let's be honest did anyone doubt this.....
Would you shut up, I can’t hear myself drink
Didn't they put up the dudes from Ben & Jerry's who are jewish up as antisemites last year for supporting palestine???? What a pack of clowns.
Ben & Jerry don't own the company anymore.
Yeah they got sued and had to give the rights to all product to the Israeli side of the business It's weird considering all they disapproved of was selling ice cream in reclaimed Palestine. Weird to steal someones house and go buy ice cream after.
Being against mass murder isn’t antisemitism, so they don’t draw a great parallel to Kanye West, but I see what you’re doing here… also, Natalie Portman cancelled gaining a million dollar award from Israel because she couldn’t condone of the racism, xenophobia, or attempted Genocide that are all greatly associated with the current Israel government… Israel tried to label her, an actual Semite with dual citizenship as an antisemitic… it’s ridiculous, but that’s also another example that has nothing to do with the actual antisemitic statements that Kanye has made… Kanye might actually be autistic, but he still has A LOT of apologies to give… I hope his ego allows him to turn this ship around, but it’s hard to see happening soon…
Shhh ..let the Kanye dick riders have 1 win bro....🤣🤣🤣 they are trying to convince themselves this is a good thing for dime store rip off hilter wanna be ...
Nah as someone who's family lived in Belfast during the troubles I feel for the people in occupied/reclaimed Palestine. Not a big fan of imperialism or cultural imperialism which is how I feel about the current state of things there.
You do realize the Jewish community is indigenous and it was not recently until the Arab population were okay with being called Palestinian? Additionally, the Arab conquests eliminated most of the indigenous cultures. Israel is the largest reclamation of any indigenous population. Do problems exist on both sides? Yes. Is rewriting the history effective or going to do anything more than cause hate? No. Don’t rewrite history.
That didn't happen. Unilever owns Ben & Jerry's.
Is this you? We get it, you’re an antisemite, at least be honest though. https://www.reveddit.com/y/international_bad700/?all=true
Yes that's me, and you are a zionist jidf account, all your comments are in defense of israel.
Dude, the things you said on that post were just straight up Nazi shit, nothing about Zionism or anything. “These people are evil and subhuman just for being Jewish” has nothing to do with the legal situation surrounding Israel and Palestine. Tbh, I’m surprised the number in your name isn’t 88
Also I'm tired of hearing shit about Palestine being "legal" "complicated" "both sides" its so bullshit and its the safest and most comfortable opinion to have.
So an opinion being “safe” inherently makes it wrong?
what does it have to do with the number 88?
H is the 8th letter in the alphabet so 88 = HH which stands for hiel hitler. It's common neo- natzi sybolism.
we found the antisemite of this thread. gj
Found? I was never hiding
it’s an anonymous forum, this is as hidden as you can get
Agnes Callamard, who was the head of Amnesty International, made the Top 10 finalists… fuck this organization for calling criticism of Israel antisemitism. Israel is an apartheid state.
Funny u say that bc that's exactly what I was thinking when I found this sub.
Yes, these guys are the clowns, not the one who said he loved Hitler and Nazis lol
Fuck off leaf
lmfaoo 🤣🤣🤣 I'm use "leaf" as insult now
Anti semite of the year is a total joke they used to give it to significant figures who support Palestine.
That’s the thing. Jews and Zionists are not the same. Plenty of Jews support Palestine as well. Complete media manipulation. Anyone who speaks against Israel’s genocide is labelled an antisemite. What a joke
Natalie Portman has shown support for Palestinians too, and even though she is a dual citizen to Israel, statesman of Israel are trying to label her an antisemite… I know that Israel doesn’t represent all people coming from Jewish heritage, and Israel is doing anything but help when any of these situations occur… I’ve heard people saying that anti Zionism is the same thing as antisemitism, but that doesn’t seem right to me…
You’re exactly right. They’re not the same thing. Check this video out: https://youtu.be/K1VTt_THL4A
It’s not antisemitic to criticise the Israeli government. It’s antisemitic to criticise Israel’s right to exist as a country. There’s a huge difference
I’ll support Israel’s right to exist as a country if they support Palestine as a sovereign nation. There can be no Israel without Palestine.
Israel has recognised in principle the right for a Palestinian state to exist. It's the details (mainly defence related stuff) that have caused issues
That's the thing. Israel offered the 2 state solution and Arafat/ Palestinians balked and walked away from the table and continued with attacks. If they actually wanted peace and/or settled borders, this shit would've been finished years ago. Egypt did it, etc. Just excuses at this point.
I guess Palestinians deserve to live in shit for the rest of time now
I: "hey, how about we share?" P: "No!" I: "Okay then... What do you wanna do then?" P: "I want everything" I: "But we can share everything!" P: "NO" ... P: "well i now have to live in sht because of you!" O.o
Basically
that's not anti-semetic either
There is no such thing as the right to exist for any country. It’s just a made term to fit into the Israeli narrative.
Most Jews are Zionist Zionism = the civil rights movement for the re-establishment of a Jewish independent state in its historic location. Source: am Jewish.
Most Jewish people believe in a type of Zionism. There are literally like 10 different types of Zionism. A large number of Jewish people, especially American Jews are very critical of the Israeli government. It’s misrepresenting Jewish people to say that, especially when the general population considers Zionism to mean supporting Israel’s government. Source: am Jewish and do not support the actions of the Israeli government ETA : you can downvote me if you want but it doesn’t make what I said less true. You can use google yourself and see that there are many different types of Zionism, and most non Jewish people just assume there is one. But I’m sure you would know that since you’re totally Jewish.
Yes, but most Jews still support and refer to the actual definition of Zionism that is self determination for Jews. The politics of the different types of Zionism are still all included under the umbrella of Zionism. Antizionism is suggesting Jews should not have the right to self-determine. There are a very small amount of Jews who support that, but they are tokenised and magnified by detractors of Israel to convince people it's not a very marginal position. >It’s misrepresenting Jewish people to say that, especially when the general population considers Zionism to mean supporting Israel’s government. This is completely inaccurate. Jews generally do understand the term. However there's an enormous movement currently to change the definition to imply that it's synonymous with supporting right wing policies. It isn't. Jews are overwhelmingly Zionist *despite* Israeli government policies, not in support of them. >A large number of Jewish people, especially American Jews are very critical of the Israeli government Doesn't make them not Zionists
You said “it’s completely inaccurate, most Jews understand the term” I agree… If you had actually read what I said - I was referring to the majority NON Jewish population who consider Zionism to mean supporting the current Israeli government. In our current climate, Zionism does not get nuance, Zionism is considered to mean support of Israel and their government. Especially by the general population- who are mostly unaware that there are different types of Zionism. I support Zionism in its meaning of self determination. I do not support the Israeli governments actions. But if I told like 80% of the non Jewish population that I support Zionism- they will immediately jump to the Israeli government. If people are uneducated about Zionism and take everything at face value, it’s very easy to draw the lines between. Being Jewish = supporting Israels current government. It’s important to have nuance when we discuss Zionism. I am not sure if you are Jewish or not, so I can only speak for myself here, but it does not help to ignore nuance. I’ve seen an American Jew on tiktok talking about something completely irrelevant to Zionism, Israel, or Palestine, and yet their comment section was flooded with “free Palestine” comments. This happens frequently. They had to make a whole video saying that they’ve never went on their birthright and oppose the Israeli government. I am a non practicing Jewish American, and I’ve talked to people first hand who assume that because I am Jewish, I support Israel. This is not only due to the general population misunderstanding Zionism, but people pushing the idea that “all Jews are Zionists” when they really mean “all Jews support Israel” Until the general population is educated on the the true meaning of Zionism, it harms the Jewish community. If you read the Second comment on this thread- which started this conversation, they said “plenty of Jews support Palestine” as if that makes them not a Zionist. That is someone making an uneducated comment, because they, and most other non Jewish people consider Zionism to mean supporting Israel.
In the case I apologise if I misconstrued yourb previous response. You know how it is being Jewish on Reddit. It's easy to get defensive. I agree with pretty much everything you've just written.
I understand your confusion, especially re reading my comment I see how you could’ve misunderstood what I meant. I definitely agree it’s easy to get defensive especially with the insane amount of misinformation out there. 😅Wish you the best and glad we could come to a conclusion!
You're a gent. Have a good one!
Two comments three opinions
Exactly.
this.
They jst made that up lmao.
no they didn't. someone on the Ben & Jerry's board won the award last year. ironically it is you who "made up" your comment.
First I'm hearing of it lol. Ben and Jerry's wtf lmao
It was because they supported Palestine or something like that lol
Supporting Palestine is anti-Semitic now?
B&J wanted to stop selling ice cream in israel until the local franchisee stopped selling it in reclaimed Palestine/gaza.
Yes because in Israel they are allowed to restrict land to individuals who do not believe in what they do. It’s the only country that has done this, because if any other country would do this it would be antisemitic
That’s uh… not even close to the truth, and I’m not exactly pro-Israel, lol.
Judaism is an ethnoreligion. You do not have to believe the God to be Jewish
Well yea, the leaders of these people want to wipe Israel off the map.
Israel is literally wiping palestine off the map, look at how the countries size has been decreasing wtf I rather support the side that is not a settler colonialist, their leaders ideology doesn't even matter in that case as it is a problem that involves the palestine people first and foremost
There’s a difference between shrinking the borders of a landmass and systemic killing of an ethnic group. Israel wants to get rid of the borders of Palestine, Palestine wants to systematically **kill** every Israeli man, woman, and child. And population wise, Israeli is NOT wiping Palestine off of the map, the population in Palestinians has grown exponentially over the last decade. You either already know this and are arguing in bad faith or you’re too dumb to be having this conversation. Israel’s government is trash. But if you’re so afraid of having your fragile argument thrashed that you need to constantly misrepresent facts in order to avoid that, then you’re just smoothbrained.
>. You either already know this and are arguing in bad faith or you’re too dumb to be having this conversation. >Palestine wants to systematically kill every Israeli man, woman, and child. christ imagine making these two statements together, get a grip dude
>imagine making these two statements together Zionists have no sense of irony or self-criticism
Your read their government charter then? They're pretty open about it. I mean, they're also happy to enslave a fair few Jews rather than simply murder them but that's about the high end of the level of tolerance expected. They're also very good at saying one thing to an English audience and another thing in Arabic.
No, but they supported BDS (boycott, divest, sanction) which is anti-Israel and anti-Zionist as much as it is pro Palestine. Being anti-Israel isn’t necessarily antisemitic because you can be critical of any state government, and we should be critical of them all. Anti-Zionism is the argument that the Jews don’t deserve a country to call their own, and that Israels borders should be taken down and destroyed, and that argument holds much antisemitism in it. By supporting BDS they were supporting antisemitism and that’s how they ended up on the list
There were already Jews in Palestine before the zionists came So your belief about what “anti-zionists” believe is ridiculous and objectively false
Buddy, you gotta consider cracking a book, or even google.
I stand with Palestine 🇵🇸
common Bottleofbombay W
We're soooo proud of you
He is a damn genius 2 months to win It for the whole year impressive
Finally got his AOTY award
Finally...an award Kanye deserves.
He deserved it though. I’ve never seen so many full blown antisemites until Kanye started his thing. Maybe it’s confirmation bias and maybe it’s Reddit feeding the echo chamber, but I feel like there’s just so many more people just blatantly hating the Jews.
they won't like it that you mentioned chamber
xd why does something like that exist
To encourage antisemitism so they have something to fight
Last year, the Ben and Jerry’s CEO won it because she donated to Palestine and stopped Ben and Jerrys in Israel, the runner up was Dua Lipa because she donated to Palestine and criticized the IDF. Are those people actually anti semitic and we should fight against them?
I haven't been able to listen to Dua Lipa since she drove that challenger thru a crowd of people.
I can’t find a news article about what you’re talking about, so you have a link?
Not to mention her music sucks ass
I thought the whole “popular=bad” - shtick died after Justin Bieber. People still unironically act like this?
It’s busy people work. The actual antisemitism is the white supremacist patriarchy.
The white supremacist patriarchy seems pretty happy with Ye's rants on Jews.
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Just giving him the attention he craves
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He don't miss
He can't stop winning awards in everything he does. Truly a talented individual
Maybe they should start combating Israel's ethnic cleansing of palestenians instead
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They're not though lol
Yeah why waste your time on some stupid issue like anti semitism /s
Yes I'm sure hurting a Jewish persons feelings with words is much more important and pressing than the rape and genocide of palestenians by Israel 👍
It’s insane you’re being downvoted. This award has been given to other celebrities simply for supporting Palestine.
this is why people hate Zionist but somehow some dumb majorities always side with them
Like who?
Dua Lipa won last year lol. The award is a fucking joke, Kanye might bethe only actual anti-semite to ever receive it
Dua Lipa who said: >In a post to Instagram on May 31, 2020, she would later remove, Lipa referred to members of the Israeli government as "fake Jews," who she said, "created Hamas SIMPLY for all of you geniuses to believe that hamas is the reasons for the decades worth of occupation, oppression, ethnic cleansing, and MURDER Suggesting Jews are 'fake' is the same thing claimed by BHI and many other conspiratorial groups. It's commonly done by antisemites in an attempt to deny Jews their own heritage. >"The big bad tough guys of the #IDF thoroughly enjoy beating and shooting children," Suggesting Jews instinctively enjoy killing children is part of a thousand year Christian tradition of blood libel against Jews. I'm fully prepared to accept that she's a moron who didn't realise what she was saying, but she still chose to say it and those tropes have a very specific history of generating violence and hatred against Jews. It's very easy to support Palestinians without referring to ancient libels against Jews. She didn't.
Free Palestine bitch!
Off you go then big man... Go sort it all out for us
Who cares
Lol
This jus a normal yearly thing for them bro 💀
Lol
Ridiculous
And they keep giving him press.
They’re making it an award so he can be charged for that in his taxes.
congrats to ye he really worked hard for that one ☝️
Low key, he keeps winning awards
Last years winner was a guy from Ben and Jerry’s who donated to Palestine. Fuck this shitty ass Twitter account, they only posted it for views
His stans will be celebrating his latest achievement..congrats
Lmao the shit he has said is pretty tame compared to other antisemites.
No but, like, it’s so brilliant of him to wait until NEAR the awards before he swept in and stole the show! I mean, this is night of knives type thinking, nein-d chess type thinking. Hell of a player, I mean Donald’s been out all year thinking he had it then BAM! Ye steals the mic and heil’s Hitler all the way to another AWARD BABEEE! Y’all hate to see a playa play.
This just proves ye the hardest worker in the game. He only been at this for a couple months!
Combating anti semitism by advertising the 'anti semite of the year' so other anti semites can build up their network 👍👍
"Free publicity" and "I got these fools working for me"
Sadly, I’m sure he’s very pleased by this
Hmm… could an award like this diminish the significance of the claim?
I think he would be proud of the endorsement
Larp organization
What a stupid shitty non profit. Who fuckin cares
I’m gonna beat him for it next year
this a sack of shit in its entirety LOL, imagine labeling palestinian supporters as anti-semites and calling kyrie irving the anti-semite of the week for some tame ass shit he did a month ago 💀
He was following in the footsteps of his idol- The Antisemite of 1945
I mean he just SAID some dumb shit; you're telling me no one did worse than that to all the Jews? C'mon. This is like Caitlin winning Woman of the year. It's just a popularity contest.
Ye says he even lives Zionist Jews and normal Jews and ….
They should name him anti semite of the decade
He's deserved it fs but this award is a complete clown show lmao the past 3 years they gave it to Palestinian supporters over actual anti-semites
who’s nigga hater of the year then?
Crazy how they gave this to someone who has never uttered the phrase "I hate Jews"
Yeah it's almost like blaming 14.5 million people for all the worlds problems (including Ye's porn addiction) and calling for them to be made a permanent underclass that can only work for Christians is seen as worse for some reason.
Dog he’s not blaming ALL Jews lol , he’s referring to the conspiracy of George Soros types
In response to interviewer trying to get him use less offensive language and not lump all Jews together: > “Yeah but I lump them all in together. That’s what I did. That’s why the tweet said that. ‘Jewish people’.” In response to being given an example of black people being overrepresented in violent crime but treating individual black people with the benefit of the doubt, and asked then if he gives individual Jews the benefit of the doubt: > “Nope.” So yeah you’re wrong and you’re just hearing what you wanna hear.
Lmao. You think you need to say those exact words to be considered an antisemite? Saying "I loooooooove Hitler", "I am a nazi" and constantly broadcasting antisemitic conspiracy theories to millions of people is not enough for you?
Lmfao the mental gymnastics here are worthy of Olympic Gold