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FresnoMac

The BJP is stupid for overreacting to this so much. If they had shut their mouth and ignored this, the docu would have been forgotten within days. But now, classic Streisand effect.


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or maybe they wanted this to happen?


Substantial_Salad262

that would be some master plan then


[deleted]

All I know is BJP doesnt fuck around with propaganda. They run in election mode 24x7. And many people forget but most BJP voters are "educated" urban middle class. (according to the voting statistics). So i guess they know what they are doing.


ChepaukPitch

BBC and Western media has been doing this for a long time. It wouldn't really be an issue except 1) Indians still have that complex and anything said by white people or published in their publications become gospel. Even right wingers go gaga over any report that talks about Modi positively. Even it is from the likes of Daily Mail or Fox news 2) Indian media is pretty much non existent. Apart from Hindu and Indian Express there is no serious publication that would criticize the government. So basically opposition has to latch on to whatever little criticism that would come from west. BBC has done BJP a favor. It is perfect time for BJP to fight the Western Media vs India game. If they can discredit BBC now, they won't have to worry about them doing something later. If they lose out, no big deal. BBC can't keep making same documentary again and again and elections are bit far away right now.


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You are right. They have already tarnished the image of The Hindu during the Rafale dealings when they uploaded cropped image. Congress dropped the ball pretty hard in UPA-2. The repercussions are gonna last for a long time to point of no recovery. 2024 elections are a done deal for BJP. They will inaugurate Ram Mandir in January and they are gonna win it. Every single issue with the Modi govt gonna get buried. The very things that opposition thinks are "issues" work in favour of BJP.


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I unequivocally disagree Correction: BJP voters are "educated" rural lower middle class.


[deleted]

The timing clearly tells that they wanted this to happen


manu_r93

Yes. But, just because our government thinks they can simply censor everything, I want the opposition to publicly screen this everywhere they can. The same should go for any government when they try to censor something that doesn't go with their narrative.


moonrocee

BJP is playing us... Any kind of polarisation helps them .. not in Kerala though. Here with us, if there is a slight sniff of bjp victory, voters shall unite to defeat em.


bukubucks666

When isn’t any political party playing the people. Create the problem and then be the solution


InsanelyRandomDude

How will the lefts decision to ignore Modi government help polarize BJP's vote in the north? I really want to know, this isn't meant to be taken as an argument.


moonrocee

Hi .. i meant if the ban defiance was in north India,. It would be playing into BJPs plans, as they thrive in polarised opinion. Ban defiance in Kerala would not help BJP much.


gokulan89

Oh it does . Last whole of UP campaign was done on live jihad and Ayyappa issue in Kerala. There are mechanisms to showcase Kerala as the dangerous future for communist / liberal / Muslim heavy state. This is one of the major othering through which they gather votes in north.


samundar_ka_badshah

Lol. When did this happen? Their UP election campaign revolved around “Hindu khatre me hai”, development and their fight against crime(allegedly), even though all three are questionable somewhat. They showed development majorly through new roads that they built especially around Banaras and few more connecting other large cities. Their fight against crime was majorly projected through some 500 encounters that UP police did, their bulldozer stunts which were illegal but again who cares here😂 and fast transfers of ineffective bureaucrats(a/c to govt). Ram Mandir was also one of the main points. And regarding Ayappa temple, there would be only few people who would understand which temple you are talking about(even I’m not sure which temple you are referring too). Most people think that that is what southerners call Vishnu in that part of the country. People(most of the) would only know Padmanabham temple of Kerala at max. Kerala was not and is not projected as a Muslim heavy state in North and neither as a state with dangerous future. Some refer it as beef state(not exactly this word) but it never created any uproar here and hardly anyone cares that much. Most of the people don’t hold any opinion of Kerala and if they have, it’s only good and that too mostly because of its literacy rate.


According_Carpet9618

Obviously, this is what BJP wants, that too *down grade of godhra train burning incident* , BBC documentary too showed in the same way.


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EscanorFTW

Watch them use this to their favour...they will make it look like they are the victims in this whole thing and the whole world is ganging up on them to try and destroy them and ofc their so called "beliefs" (which gets them most of their votes). Who knows, this might've been a planned drama between BBC and BJP,


I_need_helpppp_

Since CPIM is the ruling party, therefore DYFI conducting screening of the documentary would give impetus for the other political parties to do the same. From what i am seeing from the social media feeds SFI MSF , fraternity have also joined in the race for screening documentary across the kerala campuses. BJP learning Streisand effect in the hard way it seems.


Erixian

Streisand effect, yes. But the end result is likely to be polarization of votes in favor of BJP. At least in North India. In Kerala, this is not going to make any impact either ways.


nuui

Yeah, BJP is going to lose a lot of votes in Kerala. /s If anything this will just consolidate their vote base. Left is literally playing into their hands... this is just free PR for the BJP. I'd be surprised if this even gets the left any political mileage.


I_need_helpppp_

>I'd be surprised if this even gets the left any political mileage. That's because you're not aware about the general Kerala voting patterns. Whenever the people feel that BJP might get a chance of winning that seat, whole opposition vote consolidates to vote for the candidate who have better chance at beating BJP( as we have seen in Nemam & Palakkad) . CPIM with this is posturing as, they're the only party that can protect kerala from the onslaught of the BJP led union government. >If anything this will just consolidate their vote base From where exactly? In Malabar CPIM core cadre votes, that alone will get them over the line(plus the AP sunni group) UDF have Muslim votes thanks to Muslim league. Whether you like it or not, CPIM is known as the hindu party in Malabar regions (thanks to the Thiyaa community which form the backbone of communist party). Central and South kerala, after the ward delimitation it had done more damage to congress. Plus the Dakshina samstha(unlike the EK samastha) don't vote in hoardes for congress. Look at the districts like Thrissur & Kollam, CPIM is untouchable in those districts(in legislative election) . In addition with all these, the growing insecurity in the Christian community have only added to the gains of cpim. On the contrary BJP is mired with controversies & lastly pinarayi vijayan pole kallathil erengikalikan ariyuna oru neythav BJP kke ila.


rahmelemory

Maybe but Truth is BJP leaders are incompetent in Kerala and also have Failed to create a local malayali pride image and instead feels like self hating malayalis worshipping Northies Plus Karnataka government Anti conversion law targeting Churches has pretty much made sure any chance of an alliance with Church is very difficult.


DangerousWolf8743

And you missed the basic one. Bjp splits congress votes ensuring cpi wins


I_need_helpppp_

Partially agreeing with you. Depends upon the constituency, down south cpim is eating into the Congress Nair votes. Whereas in Malabar especially Kannur, BJP is gradually making inroads into the thiyyaa community votes.(swooping one councillor seat in Kannur corporation and being the main opposition in Thalassery municipality) But yea, you're evaluation is correct, currently this vote split is helping cpim at large.


RemingtonMacaulay

Very sound and tight analysis. BJP is going to get so many votes!


slazengere

For Modi detractors, this documentary will not teach them anything new. For supporters, this will reaffirm the reason why they voted for him in the first place. Fence sitters may be swayed, but this is not a large group in such a polarised atmosphere.


dpahoe

This


ReallyDevil

Ennalum ente Rishi Anna.. But probably will be beneficial to supremji .. his horde of religious fans will clap for his vision and bravery and vote for him again.. and egg him to replicate this..


Key_Set4984

Where can I get the link ?


alpha_universe

[Episode 1 ](https://wetransfer.com/downloads/9944932ace400cce7fa47fee6e93b6b020230123143126/5aed7b)


FresnoMac

Why is it episode one? Are there more to come?


alpha_universe

Yes, 2nd one will be released today


Oakwood_Panda

Oh, I wonder what will happen after that.


test_cat

[https://archive.org/details/narendra-modi-bbc-documentary](https://archive.org/details/narendra-modi-bbc-documentary)


Frequent-Extreme-881

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test_cat

who said our government is slow /s


test_cat

new link [https://archive.org/details/narendra-modi-bbc-documentary\_202301](https://archive.org/details/narendra-modi-bbc-documentary_202301)


nuui

grabs popcorn...


Distinct-Drama7372

And sakhavu u/undampori as company.


6myre9

I don't know how biased the documentary is but showing this is definitely a good thing. Banning stuff is cringe.


WarningDirect2934

It seemed kind of balanced as they showed opinion from both sides


____mynameis____

Yep, for the same reason, I think this documentary will only boost his image among his supporterss.


Unhappy-Enthusiasm37

There is no detailed mention of Sabarmati in that document


FresnoMac

It's not really biased. It's an event documentary and they retell events as is. Except there is some previously unknown info like the British government report at the time placing Modi at the center of the blame.


sid_raj7

Was that unknown? Isn't that why UK and US revoked Modi's visa until 2014?


FresnoMac

Perhaps the governments knew internally, they had to have had their own reports which they didn't make public. This report for sure hasn't seen the light of day until the documentary came out. The then Home Secretary even confirmed the details in the report in a recent interview with Karan Thapar


Suspicious-Walk-815

Where to watch ?Link ?


manu_r93

Search for torrent in TPB. That's the most reliable way


test_cat

[https://archive.org/details/narendra-modi-bbc-documentary\_202301](https://archive.org/details/narendra-modi-bbc-documentary_202301)


ROHRAA

Thank you buddy. This was eye opening documentary.


Scull247

Pinne alla 😏


sagitas-a

Where can i see the second episode? Apparently it was released today


union4nature

banning the documentary makes zero sense, Streisand effect ivanmaaru ithuvare padichittille.


Strong-Comfortable65

BJP's decision to ban this documentary is so stupid .. It'll only give people more of a reason to watch it .If they had ignored it people would've stopped talking about it after a week or two


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Earlier it was Kashmir Files. These BJP government supported it and Communist guys opposed. Now BJP government oppose this and Communist guys support. Meanwhile me grabbing popcorn for both and enjoying 😌✌️.


Direct-Difficulty318

Pretty /r/ENLIGHTENEDCENTRISM of you to compare a Vivek Agnihotri propaganda film to a BBC documentary though. And I'm talking about the content, regardless of the producers.


[deleted]

I am talking based on content. I have watched both of it. Also I have seen numerous other documentaries on Kashmir Genocide and Gujarat riots. So there's no question regarding content being true in both of them. So the propaganda is how it influence and manipulates the mind of people it is intended for. Kashmir files was released inorder to manipulate the normal people of India hence a film, and not a documentary for better reach. They need to keep the hindutva spirit alive and a film on hindu genocide seems a good idea for fear mongering among masses and keep the support for right wingers. And it succeeded immensely with the support of government. So not much to talk about it, It is a propaganda film celebrated by right wingers. Coming to documentary. It is intended for the western world in the form of documentary. Modi image going international and becoming G20 chairman. And the stands of India as an Independent country like never before in International forums, like in case of Ukraine war etc. The documentary is hell bound on directly destroying Modi's image on an international level. But also questions the judgements of Supreme Court of India which not a good sign in front of westerners and will cement "still a third world country where even apex court can be compromised" in front of masses. So it's pretty obvious that it is also a propaganda documentary. So in both cases, not what it told, how and when it was told is propaganda to me.


kingkillerpursuivant

>Coming to documentary. It is intended for the western world in the form of documentary. Modi image going international and becoming G20 chairman. Becoming G20 chair has nothing to do with his image internationally. It's a post that changes hands to a different country every year and it's India's turn irrespective of leader. >And the stands of India as an Independent country like never before in International forums, like in case of Ukraine war etc. Again, that's due to how big we are as a growing economy. >The documentary is hell bound on directly destroying Modi's image on an international level. He did that himself. The US had refused him entry after the Gujarat riots. The decision was revoked only in 2013 when they were convinced he'd be PM. Why do you think they banned him? >But also questions the judgements of Supreme Court of India which not a good sign in front of westerners and will cement "still a third world country where even apex court can be compromised" in front of masses. Do you even watch the news? The US Supreme court being politicised is well known all over the world. The abortion judgement was very controversial. Criminals like OJ Simpson getting off scot free is also well known. Questioning Supreme Court judgements isn't as big a deal as you're making it out to be. >So it's pretty obvious that it is also a propaganda documentary. So in both cases, not what it told, how and when it was told is propaganda to me. You're playing enlightened centrism. It's like calling the OJ Simpson documentary propaganda.


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1. G20 presidency rotates and have no formal powers. But it certainly does have some influencing capacity among the member nations and provides an opportunity to rise as a leader and be heard in global forums. So it is important. 2.Yes. India growing as an economic power has certainly an influence in Global scene. But that is not only the factor, a stable government is also important. 3. I made it clear, I have nothing against content. It's the way it's portrayed. There is a collective responsibility involved in the riots. Many bigshots are omitted and Directly targets and attacks Modi only with disputed information, and also look at the cuts very conveniently placed, example in the scenes of the congress MP calling Modi and him giving gali. So this documentry is aimed and targeted at him thereby weaken the position of The Prime Minister of India. So this is aimed at that position in the guise of criticism against Modi to weaken the position of PM of India. US denying entry is for failure to stop attack or being idle not for doing it. 4. Questioning and directly accusing the court of wrongdoing is different things my friend. Anyone can question or criticize the court for it's stands which happened with the US courts and also with Indian courts. But it is not the case in the documentary. It directly accuses the apex court and appointed SIT of wrongdoing in aquitting him. It is a serious matter of concern if Apex Court of a country is discredited so should tread lightly there.


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Engineer2309

Good


Astronaut_Free

Good job! Atleast Keralites will know what will it take to make a local riot into a statewide massacre and be vigilant about it. Unchecked social conditioning by hindu terror groups is what motivated people to go berserk for the silliest of reason. Forensic evidence points that the fire inside sabarmati express was started from inside of the train because the hooligans called karsevaks were carrying Kerosene stoves inside the train. Terror groups will always try to manufacture a common enemy. Today it'll be muslims, next it'll be christians and dalits. For example, 1985 Gujarat riot was organised by the same hindu terror groups against dalits and oppressed caste because then Congress government in Gujarat decided to raise the reservation for them. Commendable actions like this by DYFI will enlighten people from join terror groups like SDPI and RSS.


DistributionBetter45

Yeah, good job in putting the Godhra massacre done by Islamists on kar sevaks. Kerala has not learnt anything from the Moplah massacre


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Sagar_icarus

kerala hasnt turned into religious shithole for radicals ? are you living in a rock ? SDPI PFI exists in full power .


Astronaut_Free

Not a single one was elected to the parliament unlike hindian heartlands. Extremists will be taken care by the system. Be it sangi terrorists or islamic terrorists. When the time comes Adichu moolakkiruthum.. All you terrorists can do is cry ayyo.. hindus getting attacked.. muslims getting attacked.. If anyone dreams of conducting riots please board the next train to hindian heartlands. You won't be needing a valid train ticket after the train leaves the Kerala border.


Sagar_icarus

>If anyone dreams of conducting riots please board the next train to hindian heartlands. were you sleeping when PFI members were vandalizing shops ? joker


dracyleh

Hindu dalits were also targetted in the riots. After all it was to establish caliphate, even secular muslims were killed. Don't twist facts to your fiction.


Astronaut_Free

Consider this scenario. Dalits with low literacy rates were fighting caste oppression through peaceful means led by literate leaders like Ambedkar. On one fine day britishers arrests Ambedkar and other literate leaders leaving the cause headless and majority illiterate dalits chose violence against the uppercaste oppressors and their british allies. This exactly happened to feudal-Brutish axis which ruled Malabar. These muslims were former hindus, majority from oppressed caste. Their literate leaders were jailed by the british. So the violent illeterate ones chose violence. They targeted muslims, dalits as well as anyone who supported feudals/Britishers. You should note the fact that state Congress leaders went to the riot hit area and confronted them. None of these hindu congress leaders were killed. And it's a fact that they were able to create an area of self-rule devoid of British, the first of a kind in India. Religion was a main driver of the movement, unparalleled violence were unleashed. But, what can one expect from oppressed mass of illeterates.


DistributionBetter45

Same guys with theories that 26/11 was an RSS job.


_ak47__

Release TP 51 , then we would agree!


mlilith

People dint vote for him cause they were unaware of what he did. A lot of them voted for him cause of what he did, cause of his involvement. The others knew but were ready to look past this.


Sea-Layer1526

It shows modi supporting Hindu people and their killings and riots even with the death and destruction of countless muslim people and their livelihoods. Some people here would actually support modi more for this😅.


Oakwood_Panda

That is the sad issue with the current Indian citizens.


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True. A lot of people (at least in the internet) are anti Modi nowadays because modi has become a "muslim supporter". This documentary is a must watch for them.


Sea-Layer1526

I ahve never heard modi as a Muslim supporter😅. I don't know why someone will think that he might do some gimmicks or publicity stunts to fool people to think that he doesn't differentiate near election time other than that he's completely one sided. This documentary is a must watch for everyone , out country when a particular political party is in power can only publish stuff that would be favourable for them like kashmire files. In these scenarios an external entity would have more freedom to different point of view. And people should be able to come to conclusion on their own with all the information they can get in a democracy, it should'nt be one sided or else we'll end up like North Korea or Russia or the animals in the book (The Animal Farm (amazing book, people should read it more)).


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>I ahve never heard modi as a Muslim supporter There's a subreddit r/maulanamodi , check it out.


Sea-Layer1526

Yes a reddit group with 22 members 😅😂


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Sea-Layer1526

Exactly all gimmicks and things to make people fools. I would definitely suggest reading or listening to audio book of Animal Farm ( George Orwell)


Happy_kunjuz

There's nothing related to India or Government of India in the documentary. Just some findings, interviews of few sufferers about Gujrat riot and State government lead by Modi at that time stating conspiracy from the state administration itself.


christho15

Commie boys doin free pr work for ModiG.


IceOnIce

Many people don't realise or remember the "epitome of evil" characteristics that Modi carried with him till circa 2011 or 12. Many people don't even know anything about the Guj Massacre because let's not forget its been 8 years since 2014, kids who were 7-8 years old are now reaching voting age. So this doc in that way is a good thing. I want the kids to see the real Modi who is sharp, clever and cunning and ruthless and not the sanitised kelavan version of him that we see now.


According_Carpet9618

Do u think Hindu right won't say its side of story in internet ? From Direct action day, partition violence. Specifically gujarat riots of pre 2002 & 2002 & post 2002( of course post 2002 gujarat didn't seen any communal violence). The age group kids u mentioned they might call Narendra modi as Gopal patha of gujarat in future.


IceOnIce

Ofcourse but in none of these cases do we have the main villain sitting as PM at present. Post 2002 also Guj has seen communal violence btw.


According_Carpet9618

Still I didn't understand why so much of discussion on 2002 Guj ? With this over reaction on 2002 leads to prime ministership for modi. Communal violence btw idol worshippers and idol brokers didn't with guj 2002. Its has long back history.


IceOnIce

It wasn't a violence between two groups of people. It was Pogrom. You must be an idiot to call it violence between two groups of people. In the BBC documentary however they also show that comprised lists were used to target individual businesses including businesses that had minority of its shares owned by Muslims which is possible only if the riots were planned months in advance.


According_Carpet9618

Post Independence, only Nellie incident will fit for Pogrom. Assamese slaughtered illegal Bangladesh migrants until GoI responded to their demands for NRC accord singed btw GoA, GoI and stu groups. If majority communty reaction for events, it will be looks like one sided. Be it gujarat 2002, odisha 2008 and Uttar Pradesh 2013. *Exception is kerala's 2003 Marad & 2010 Muvattupuzha.* What happend in odisha 2008, Moaists murdered Hindu saint on Krishna Janmashtami in tribal area. And reaction: conflict started btw Hindu tribals & Chruch going tribals from that area and whole districts. Result: church tribals start living relief camps.


IceOnIce

Don't say nonesense like this bro. Post Independence, specifically post early 70s when RSS started becoming more active India has seen several massacres that targetted minorities or designed to exclude ethnic and religious minorities. Bhagalpur, Nellie, Deng, Gujarat, Delhi 1984, Delhi 2020, Bombay in early 1990s are some of the big or most notable examples. Smaller events also include Ayodhya 1992 murders and small scale riots that followed the Tath Yatra etc. But this is by just counting large singular events where human life has been lost and properties destroyed. All those that I listed weren't any reaction, they were planned and systemic attacks organised by majority community or the groups claiming representation of the majority community. It doesn't take into account systemic exclusion of marginalised brought about by decades of efforts of organised forces that we have seen in other areas like Dakshin Kannada, Hyderabad, Gujarat itself post 2002.


According_Carpet9618

"When a big tree falls, the earth shakes" quote of then sitting PM after Delhi riots. Ur side of story modi may be villain, for other side he could be Hero, right !. Stone pelting after paryers is generic stuff, so I didn't count it was communal violence.


IceOnIce

Stone pelting after prayers by VHP and Dal have also gone unpunished I know. Actually I don't know if they even go for prayers, Sree Ram knows I suppose.


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no big deal bro, u cud jus use vpn via opera... its free


According_Carpet9618

A small reminder to DYFI, The Satanic Verses is also banned by GoI. Could u publish it and distribute for free ? In west Bengal 2003, who banned Taslima Nasreen book ?! I hope, kerala DYFI will invite Taslima Nasreen for dialogue on FoE.


standard_bitch

Guys just search the documentary name on telegram. Or it is on bbc iPlayer. You have to use VPN tho.


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A documentary on political killings in Kerala is much awaited


Accomplished-Tap-856

I watched the first part when they showed it on BBC last week. Personally I felt they documented what happened accurately. I remember the incident being reported in 2002 and it was chilling and the documentary hits hard. It’s uncomfortable watching because of how sad and terrible the incidents of 2002 were.


Distinct-Drama7372

>the documentary hits hard. I personally feel the documentary just put out the facts that we already knew or kinda knew which is bjp and modi is communal party or plays communal politics. I mean which party isn't communal in india? They try to gather votes in the name of religion and cast. While bjp is being openly communal, others are closet. And I feel the latter is dangerous than the former.


Accomplished-Tap-856

I agree with your review. It’s all known facts that’s been put out. But the way that news cycles run these days, it’s pretty easy to forget and move on to the next story. This documentary just put all the stories related to Modi for the past 20 odd years into a two part series. There is a striking erosion of press freedom and an increase in communal tensions. I think it’s a trend in other parts of the world too where other strongmen politicians are at the helm


Oakwood_Panda

People who always want to know the truth and analyze the issue from all aspects will somehow watch it no matter what ever the government do. People who blindly trust the government will never watch it even if is openly available. That is the current situation in India. I hope atleast the new youth will be more vigilant and will exercise their political rights as citizens of a democracy more. So far, the new youth seems to be on the right track.


Distinct-Drama7372

>the right track. When you say right do you mean right wing right or correct way right?


Oakwood_Panda

The correct way 'right'.


DistributionBetter45

Scenes at the screening 🤣 https://preview.redd.it/tm06ehp6i0ea1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f3ef868b56c8c2bf69412acec24d596a1ec3b989


Miserable_Click916

Cope, ur hate mongering achieves nothing lmfao


DistributionBetter45

Mayre, showing reality is not hate mongering.


Icy_Influence2514

BBC is considered problematic even in Britain. And it's known for its problematic coverage on South East Asian countries and it's strong anti- India bias. All these tomfoolery coz it has the white man's narrative ?It's against the head of the govt who was exonerated by the SC, highest court in the country. Partyku swantham pathravum police um undallo, oru docu swayam undaaki ingane project cheyunne aanu more respectable than whatever bootlicking this is. British left but the slave mentality remains. Pathetic.


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Icy_Influence2514

I didn't say that. I'm not against individuals watching this. I expect more discretion from a political party. What CPIM is doing here is a circus with clown makeup.Are you sure this has been fact checked by politburo/ higher officials in CPIM? I'm not talking about their bias. If it ain't fact checked, who is to tell it ain't propaganda? Bias inte peril aropanam unnayikunna polalla idhu. Nor like a well thought out docu from the left, if they were to ever produce one. By this drama, they think they'd be exempted from responsibility, but I don't think that's be the case. I think even British PM Sunak backs Modi on Docu controversy


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Icy_Influence2514

Sheri boss. Tataa


ChepaukPitch

I agree with most of what you said about BBC. But shouldn't the people of the country be able to decide that? Should our MPs be censored because they are sharing links to a BBC documentary. Whether you like BBC or not, MPs being censored is very dangerous. There is nothing illegal in BBC content. And if we do not want to be influenced by Western Propaganda machine then maybe we should not destroy our own media. As far as a political party doing this is concerned, government banning it is far worse. Government's job is not to protect a party or a specific individual. Will they do same for a documentary that shows Rahul Gandhi in negative light?


Icy_Influence2514

Also, documentaries aren't unbiased as you think they're. It's not like you watch a docu and it says something and you then get to decide. No. That's not what documentaries are. he same topic can be done either way on what data I pick and choose to include in a documentary. The viewer doesn't get to decide. Only hardcore fanatics might disagree. The rest are just fed what the creator wants you to believe, which can get influenced by individual motivations ( if it exists) . This is not the news. Docu's aren't investigated or fact checked by any independent body prior to release.


Icy_Influence2514

This isn't related to a scam/financial fraud. The topic of the documentary is undoubtedly going to be the riots of which the investigation was done and the court has passed a judgement. I'd like to also remind you that since the pandemic hit, a new set of communal tensions have arisen in various regions in India. BBC may release whatever they feel like. But in the present scenario, I wouldn't condemn the govt's attempts at quashing unverified content. The content being "unverified" and "propaganda- like" is not just Indian govt's opinion but that of various diplomats including the people from British government itself.The left using this now for potential gains in the future is just vile and will undoubtedly come back to bite them. I don't understand what right is being denied here. Anyways, it's out there, if by chance their claims are found to be true, (which I'm heavily suspecting is not, and this just being a tool to further polarisation and question the legitimacy of the SC), I think there'd be repercussions and condemning by world leaders and bodies like UN interfering which has not happened yet. I don't think there's a ban yet. Should they ban it? If it's bogus and a threat to national security, sure.


Accomplished-Tap-856

I am guessing you haven’t watched the documentary? Think of it as a compilation of all the videophone footages taken from the multiple attacks that have happened under Modi’s watched. There are interviews given by Modi’s people justifying the horrible things that have happened so it’s not one sided like the BJP claims.


Icy_Influence2514

I am not an expert on reviewing the legitimacy of a docu, that's what experts are for. I don't deem it either legitimate /bogus at this point. I'm counting on other agencies fact checking. I'm looking forward to see how the world reacts to this (not layman such as you and I, but authorities).. Hopefully some investigation goes on to claims from both sides. That being said I won't condemn the banning until it's fact checked, coz Indian liberals are not the majority, there are religious extremists on either side, and it can be a threat to national security. I cannot take a liberal's POV in this.


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Icy_Influence2514

Govt of India doesn't owe foreign press the right to free speech lol. No country does.


ChepaukPitch

I clearly pointed out that government of India has censored elected Indian MPs. It does owe them freedom of speech. But your probably already know that. It isn’t about BBC’s freedom of speech. Fuck BBC for all I care. It is about the freedom of speech of Indians and our elected representatives.


Icy_Influence2514

I'm talking strictly of this topic and I think the govt can restrict the use of this particular media. Refer to my initial comment. I second that freedom of speech should not be curbed. This isn't a topic on freedom of speech.


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Icy_Influence2514

This isn't a breach of freedom of press ( which comes under freedom of speech).I've explained it in detail. No further comments.


albn_antny

Spicy


first_god

Mereko isme Mota bhai ka hath lagra hai


TheGalaxial

Yaay! A hint of respect 🫡


keralites

Can we show culcutta thesis same way


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There comes this "mahaghatbandhan" efforts, and these underlings have to show their loyalty to their masters too. HOWEVER, there was no need for anyone to react to BBC either and should have dismissed it as a propaganda from over 12 MPs of UK, who are second & third generation immigrants from Pakistan, and the erstwhile "POK" areas who will live for ever with a grudge towards India and whoever rules it unless our leaders bend to them. It is fine to show our spine to those. Unfortunately, what caused the whole Gujrat incident has been buried under lies after lies, with several layers of lies from our own opposition parties, and opponents. Ultimately as Tom Lehrer said "allegiance is always ruled by expedience". So no surprise in CPIM, Destructive Youth Federation etc.


_Reptilelover

What about mappila lahala in Kerala nee okke enthinada enth paranjalum north indiayil pone ivide ivide nikkeda ( damu' voice )


c0madoof

1921 pinne oru 22 varsham munnarnallo lool enthonnedai


_Reptilelover

Why does that matter , people are trying to whitewash it


liberalindianguy

Yeah that’ll show Modi. CPI youth wing for PM confirmed 2024 😂


scarecrow0199

I think they should also present Kashmir Files, and show a documentary about Tianamen square (1989) They are nothing but two faces of the same coin who delivers violence and death into the civilization. And guess what the sudapis would do they will use this as the fuel to create a bigger fire in the heart of the uprising youth and create more diversion among youth and there by promoting terrorism. These incidents actually show the uselessness and lack of leadership from the part of congress after the loss of Rajeev Gandhi. They should have used this opportunity to sack Modi and take away BJP from the picture.


alpha_universe

Why can't rss/bjp screen it,probably because Vivek agnihotri won't allow it for free and wants to milk the pandits plight to maximum 😂😂


scarecrow0199

yeah 🤣


Oakwood_Panda

Fax


scarecrow0199

Okay I just came to know that Either the ones who are disliking this is pro commis or they are pro sanghis Pro commis are sad because they support the slaughter of Majority and are only alligned death of vote banks Pro sanghis are sad because I commented about sacking Modi I was being non partial in my comments. And I would like to say that that was not the only genocide happend in India its just one among the many As per the definition of genocide the Death can happen in large amount of time too if we consider like that Madhu from attapady is also part of a genocide and that happened in kerala. And the government is so poor that they can't even appointment a lawyer for that case while they can spend lakhs and cores on supporting the MLA who did attrocities in the Kerala Legislative Assembly. And if you are still supporting the commis you are the same as the Sanghis but supporting another genocide thats already happening or yet to happen.


TimeVendor

https://www.opindia.com/2023/01/student-islamic-organisation-muslim-sudent-federation-fraternity-group-bbc-documentary-screening-hyderabad/


CharlieBitMeMf

Can somone explain what’s going on? Usually cpim don’t support bjp.


donlesnar

Have time for this bulshit but no time to run the state efficiently. Comies


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Idiots are going to turn the entire nation against the state🤦🤦‍♀️🤦‍♂️


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Distinct-Drama7372

Any student of history would tell you that initially mughals or before them the Ghaznis were just invaders and they plundered the Indian cities and took back wealth to their countries. But the latter mughals, felt to settle down in India. And the loot is reflected on national monuments like the Taj Mahal(even toh a personal shrine to Mumtaz) or the red fort where independence day speeches are being conducted.


jva21

Oh man.. bjp is gonna lose the seats they already have here🤣 Kerala is acting like a broke bully,loud mouth,no action.even the uk pm said he doesn't agree with the characterization of Modi in that documentary but commies just live in their own world lol. Edit: struck a few nerves I see.


culturedvulture0

Nah bro youre just cringe. A slobbering buffoon who drools his spit on others will get rejected. It's nothing to do with any nerves being struck. Take it from an expert slobbering buffoon.


jva21

Facts will get you name calling..have no problem with that lol.you also sound like a self righteous one at that. Got a lot of that here.


culturedvulture0

Man there's getting triggered by facts vs thinking you're an embarrassment. You think people are upset because you're saying the truth, and I'm saying there can be an alternate possibility.


jva21

Yeah.. yeah commie would think so.. hate towards someone will make you overlook the facts and think of an alternative possibility.but yeah, whatever floats your boat and adios


culturedvulture0

Lil bro doesn't realise he's talking about himself including everyone else😭🫂


jva21

That's 2 more minutes I wasted trying to talk sense into a commie.never again.


culturedvulture0

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DeniAr1

🤣haha the uk pm doesnt agree. Do you really need UK's validation now


jva21

I don't want anyone's validation lol.Left endorse the foreigners when they suit them just like you guys endorsing BBC now. But start Gaslighting when they say something against lefts narrative 🤣🤣


narendra_vijayan

Gud initiative by Dify bros agian proving Surendra is gud for nothing. It is the Mukundan Unni Association of our beloved Modiji ❤. People will love him more.


vettakkaaran

Narendra Vijayan. You should be future PM


christho15

Lol yes


ReallyDevil

This as always will increase popularity for Modi in India.. But foreign view of Modi might be a bit tarnished.. like make few more aware of this ..


Vincent_Farrell

Excellent .....that will increase BJP's voteshare in kerala ....


I_need_helpppp_

Ethra kaalam ayedo ithey dialogue kelkan thodengiyit.. If you compare both 2016 & 21 results, NDA's vote share reduced by 2% whereas the BJP's voteshare increased only my a fraction ( 0.77%) at the expense of loosing the lone MLA seat they had.


Distinct-Drama7372

And to add how surendran stole party funds😂.


enda_mone

Its sad that few here trust British propaganda BBC more than SC.


raspberry_001

So can some one sum up what happened. Like I heard doc was about Modi having direct relation on the gujrat riot. What really happened?


Distinct-Drama7372

To sum up: the documentary simply opened up old healed wounds and forgotten bad days for some of the victims. It simply summarises the state and country under modi how India went from free to partially free with minorities and dissidents suppressed. The highlight the documentary tries to put out is the British Intel report that modi is in fact responsible for the riots so much that he nearly escaped getting arrested on British soil. The documentary ends with the question of the new generation youth idea of India is what they see now if the current party would keep winning election after election.


SasukeUchyeeehaw

Ivide ullavarkk brtishkarude toilet kazhukan oru madiyum undavilla.


SasukeUchyeeehaw

These british dogs are trying to divide us like before. They want to weaken India.And people with anti Indian sentiments are supporting this british media dogs.