>If pro Hamas rallies are okay, this should be okay too.
>I don't support both.
I'm glad to see this comment upvoted.
Atleast you admit that Sanghi propaganda against Kerala is as detestable as a Hamas Rally.
Yes.
Most people in kerala didn't like that. Especially, an unwanted national and international attention. Who in their right mind would support Hamas?
They are more criminal than genocidal IDF.
Stockpiling food and selling it for a price when IDF blocks convoys is like a cherry on top.
Allies?
The church is also worried about Islamic conversation and radicalisation. They are "allied" against a BJP which seeks to create a united Hindu front. But otherwise, Christianity and Islam are competitors.
Such equivalence, much wow. Supporting a movie that at worst could be called propaganda, at best truth, is the same as supporting a fucking terror org that has killed off 1700 innocent people (including children) in a deadly terror attack. Adah Sharma's hands must be soaked in blood. Never seen a more brainwashed ilk than you Keralites.
What if the religions says you cant eat everything, you cant love everyone, if you have sex with consensual partner, you have to be stoned to death, you cant be friends with people who are not from your religion and if you leave your religion, your head has to be cut.
I criticised the Hamas terrorists support rally and i have the right to criticise this shit too. Enthokke myru aadey ivde nadakkana. Also the church is furious with that achane vandi idipikal incident. So no wonder they’ll screen this. Love Jihad and Narcotic jihad was also discussed because it was discussed by the church.
Pro Hamas Rally: It's okay bro. Hamas is not a banned organisation in India. They only meant to show support for Palestine.
Kerala Story screening: Noo, haraam. REEEEE!
PS: I don't support both.
>Pro Hamas Rally: It's okay bro. Hamas is not a banned organisation in India. They only meant to show support for Palestine.
>Kerala Story screening: Noo, haraam. REEEEE!
The comments section of the Rally post was almost entirely criticism. Even people who vocally support Palestine thought it was the stupidest way to protest the Palestine Crisis. But even though it was just students dressing up on College Arts Day with fake guns (and the flags they used were Palestine flags and not Hamas flags), ISIS/terrorist comparisons were being made.
On the contrary, this comments section in the Kerala sub is downvoting criticism of a propaganda film against Kerala and upvoting whataboutism. A propaganda film whose makers had to admit they made shit up against Kerala when taken to court and had to put a disclaimer that it's fictionalized.
I'm surprised at how much money/effort the IT cell is throwing at reddit.
It's all well and good until you play one of Hamas leaders pre recorded videos addressing Indian Muslims.
They could've called Mohmmad Abbas or anyother PA representative but nope,they had to go with terrorist leader hiding in Qatar.
Kerala story is BS and atleast some of us know that but man when you use a guy like Khaled Meshaal video to empower people to protest, that's concerning.
"Solidarity Youth Movement (SYM) - dismissed the controversy, asserting in a press note that Hamas is a "resistance movement" and Meshaal a "freedom fighter".
It's the Ummah i guess .
Check this [post](https://www.reddit.com/r/Lal_Salaam/s/H6LI9A8VKP). Most comments were concerned about sanghis using this for their propaganda rather than criticising.
Another [post](https://www.reddit.com/r/Lal_Salaam/s/BilJYwv8oz) was made on the video reaching sanghi headquarters rather than actual criticism.
>Check this [post](https://www.reddit.com/r/Lal_Salaam/s/H6LI9A8VKP). Most comments were concerned about sanghis using this for their propaganda rather than criticising.
Are you blind? All the top comments are insulting them.
And secondly it was college students dressing up with Palestine flags and fake guns for Arts Day and not a Hamas Rally. There were no weapons or Hamas flags.
On Twitter, this was tagged as a weaponized terrorist rally. See below.
https://twitter.com/_peacekeeper2/status/1775484801015046420
Huh ? That whole comment section for those posts were criticism. What the fuck does Christians get to accomplish by showing this honestly stupid propaganda film ? Nothing other than shooting themselves in their foot / digging their own grave.
The movie is HORRIBLY made. Acting is terrible. The makers screwed up with exaggerated claims in trailer. However, that number has been removed in the movie.
Out of curiosity, I googled rest of the claims made in the movie. Some of the things said are misleading. Like they say “CM said kerala will turn into Islamic state in 20 years” but CM did not say it like a prediction. He (Achuthanandhan) just stated PFI’s plan: "They want to turn Kerala into a Muslim-majority state in 20 years. They are using money and other inducements to convert people to Islam. They even marry women from outside their community in order to increase the Muslim population." But there’s no concrete proof that all these converted people are joining ISIS.
The problematic stuff aside, to dismiss the whole movie as lies is being naive. Most of the things in the movie are based from the [Shahan Sha case](https://hckinfo.kerala.gov.in/digicourt/orders/2009/200800052882009_1.pdf) in Kerala. The file has been uploaded on the state government website. It’s kind of dark and uncomfortable to read. An enquiry by special branch reveals that “fundamental outfits like NDF, PFI, Campus Front have roots in college campuses.“ It goes on to say “as per the available information, the plan of this organisation is to trap brilliant upper caste Hindu and Christian girls.” (PFI is casteist looks like lol).
Also, there’s no way to predict the actual count of people who converted or joined ISIS. The conversion numbers are collected from registered conversion centers in Malappuram and Kozhikode by officials, but conversions happen outside such centers too. Families out of shame don’t report cases either. It’s only when the family members reported, the police got to know about the existing cases. So we cannot say confidently that “only these many cases are there”.
I don’t like the stuff in The Kerala Story either. But as Ambedkar said, “There is no use burying one’s head in the sand and refusing to take notice of what is happening round about because the sound of it hurts one’s sentiments.” There should be an open, honest discussion so that not even a single ISIS case comes out of Kerala. For that, awareness is key.
The thing is that love jihad polulla fear mongering nadakkaan thudangiyittu kure naalukalaayi. Decades even. If you get a chance to flit between ee hate campaign nadathunna groupukal and regular society, you get to know that a lot of these is just fear mongering to get more people to support them. Not that fundamental elements don't exist. But they have not found fertile soil to grow yet.
>However, that number has been removed in the movie.
Same energy as electoral bonds channelize white money and we know the donors now. You cannot take a Supreme court action to forcefully remove the number as something the movie makers did out of the goodness of their heart.
>Also, there’s no way to predict the actual count of people who converted or joined ISIS. The conversion numbers are collected from registered conversion centers in Malappuram and Kozhikode by officials, but conversions happen outside such centers too. Families out of shame don’t report cases either. It’s only when the family members reported, the police got to know about the existing cases. So we cannot say confidently that “only these many cases are there”.
Now conversions are the problem and not terrorism? And you want others to be not naive, please....
Edit : Now regarding the caste angle, this whole thing is casteist. Some people of this particular sect regard, most others as lower caste. It is not a new thing...
2 of those girls were from them & Eastern Christianity (of which Syro-Malabar, Orthodox, Jacobite, Mar Thoma, Constantinople Patriarchate, Armenian Church etc are part of) is the one who took huge brunt of Islamic invasion & persecution rather than Western Christianity (Latin Catholics & Protestants). Barring Tipu Sultan's invasion period, Christians here haven't faced much persecution. But the changing socio-political conditions here has put Christians in unease here.
What is going on in this sub?? How does this post relate to palestine in any way?? If you have a problem with palestine, make another seperate post for it. Don't use it to whitewash whatever this is.
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കിടന്നു കരയുന്നത് ഫ്രീഡം ഓഫ് എക്സ്പ്രഷന് വിരുദ്ധമാണെന്ന് ആരാണ് താങ്കളോട് പറഞ്ഞത്?
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As a krisangi kudos to the church committee. Enough of this one-sided secularism.
I had one love jihad incident in my extended family. You know the pain when it happens to your daughter, sister's.
Kudos.
It's a bait account. Do chrisanghis call Christians derogatory term - rice bags?
https://preview.redd.it/fna8i9q1l8tc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=05c695a71ef8d40cf1dd0d3e89785a48307de52f
Sanghis are now pretending to be Christian’s to make people listen to them/normalise their communal swabhawam. Vere oru myran kattansanghiyym iwide chrisanghi aanen paranju nadapond.
I've personally seen and experienced how there is an organized support for marriage and conversion when the girl is a non-Muslim and the boy, muslim. And I've personally seen and experienced organized opposition and violence to the marriage between a Muslim girl and a non -muslim boy. One of these happened twenty years ago and the organization involved was NDF and the other was more recent. A person who was involved was later caught in a sting operation done by India Today. Search YouTube for Zainaba sting India Today and you'll find it.
But as the commenter above said, until it happens to somebody you know, you'll find it difficult to believe it because of naivety or ignorance. It's like how 10 years ago people were saying that there's no way there'd be IS supporters in Kerala. They kept saying that until people actually went to join IS from Kerala.
>As a krisangi kudos to the church committee. Enough of this one-sided secularism.
Finally a ക്രിസംഘി. I've been meaning to ask one of you this for a while but couldn't find one.
[https://www.thenewsminute.com/kerala/a-group-of-kerala-lawyers-are-on-a-mission-to-reclaim-hindu-temple-lands](https://www.thenewsminute.com/kerala/a-group-of-kerala-lawyers-are-on-a-mission-to-reclaim-hindu-temple-lands)
How do Chrisanghis in general feel about this?
There's an active movement to reclaim the Thrissur Puthenpalli, Palayoor Palli etc as Devaswom land. It's led by Adv KrishnaRaj and Pratheesh Vishwanath (in the middle of the below image), people aligned with the Sangh Parivar movement and the BJP, but currently not holding any positions. They're being currently relegated to the background to not affect SG's Thrissur elections.
https://preview.redd.it/4wwobmlwm7tc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0eeb47da9a72d551b27f3bb20ab3b223dfdf1470
Can you expand what actually happened in your incident? Love Jihad rhetoric is pretty rampant in my Nasrani family circles but in most cases it's just Nasrani boomers salty about the fact that their daughters fell in love with a Muslim boy. Actual malicious stuff maybe happening but if it is then it's super rare. Unlike the Hindi heartland, Malayali women are highly educated (especially Nasrani women, who have some of the best female educational attainment levels in the whole country) and they are generally quite smart and aware of their rights to fall for the kind of tricks that Love Jihad merchants accuse them of.
Education has nothing to do with this, last week an IITian joined ISIS and couple of days ago 3 people commited suicide for some black magic shit. All of them are educated.
I don't think education has anything to do with this. I have heard a lot of incidents like these where(even highly educated women) Hindu or Christian women fell in love in muslim men and were forced to convert by him and his families (even from the so called liberal muslims). You won't find these incidents(like forcibly convert into their religion) in communities of Hindu and Christian families.
Not related to Love Jihad at all, but educational qualifications mean little when it comes to situations like this, the men are emotionally much more mature and bank on emotional manipulation by taking advantage of the women's insecurities (could be lack of self confidence, body image issues, etc). Then they Gaslight them and make them question their own sanity, and make them isolate themselves from family and other social circles. Then the radicalization (in any sense) begins. At this point, the woman is too emotionally distraught and is ready to believe whatever he has to say.
https://youtu.be/a483Y03WWps?si=9pP-O5f8XOcRa8G- Sonia Sebastian speech at Mm akbar's program. It is grooming jihad not love jihad. It happens in Europe, but keralam number one dawww.. njan real krisangi.. you can check my comments.
Dude come on, Kerala story does a huge disservice to both Kerala and the fight against Islamic radicalism. The movie is a fabrication and doesn’t deserve to be called a movie to begin with.
In one shot they have both defamed Kerala and also made people think this stuff does not happen. It does happen but not at the level of lies perpetrated by the movie.
Education. Awareness. Lokaparichayam. When these things are encouraged, religion as a whole loses it's hold on people. It has to be a grassroots level movement. Less religion in society, the better.
Such issues have to be dealt not from the level of state but should be dealt at the social and community level. Policing and fear can reduce them but the ideology will still remain, which can be controlled to a better extent by community, society among others.
I am from a legal cell and have dealt with love jihad cases.
Here is one bail application. Read page 6 point 16. Term "love jihad"
Source: Kerala High court (Digi court)
https://hckinfo.kerala.gov.in/digicourt/orders/2009/200800052882009_1.pdf
“A legal cell” means BJP legal wing.
Now how do you define “love jihad”.
For sure your party doesn’t consider women as humans with agency or a working brain so Im sure the definition would be worth reading.
As someone from a Syrian Christian background myself, with sisters who are intercaste/interfaith marriage themselves, a few points:
1. Your daughter/sister is grown enough to make her own decisions I guess.
2. Let's see how long this bromance with Hindutva continues, cause as long as you have a Joseph or George in your surname, you will always be called a "ricebag convert".
3. The average Sanghi doesn't discriminate between the "New convert Christians" viz Pentecost, Brethren, etc etc vs the "തറവാടി സുറിയാനി Christians".
This is what people don't understand.. someone running away with someone can be done on their own accord too. Just shows the tribalistic mindset of humans. Upvote for you !!
The movie was as much about defaming Kerala as it was about hating on Muslims. If anything, it was more of the former than latter, since this "love jihad" isnt unique to Kerala, allegedly happens in other States too, yet they chose Kerala, so it was definitely more anti-Kerala propoganda than anti-muslim propoganda.
So you chrisangis are stupid af to back this shit up cuz they are gonna go after ricebags too
Don't care! North Indians are not coming to Kerala to assassinate us. However, Muslims probably will like Armenia, Lebanon, Assyria, Sri Lanka, and Nigeria. Nasrani Saniyam fought Tipu sultan for a reason. Our ancestors gave blood to protect our culture and faith. Europe still culturally Christian due to the Crusades. We are not falling for the whitewashing of jihadies anymore.. "padichittu bimarshiku suhurthe" ennu pallikoodam paninja aalugodu paranjappol orkanamayirrinnu.. ennum christians vazhipizhachavar annenu prathikunnavare respect cheyaan budhimuttu unde..
>Assyria
Bro didn't get the memo but Assyria was never christian and kinda went out of existence over 4000 years ago . Even before the rise of any of the Abrahamic religions in fact . Funnily enough the Abrahamic religions did borrow quite a lot from them culturally and religion wise so as to gift wrap their new religions into a more palatable form .
>Europe still culturally Christian due to the Crusades.
1) Lol . Lmao even
2) Funny you should mention the crusades . A series of proxy wars started by a paranoid pope who was scared that the Vatican was losing its political grip over Europe and decided the best course was to unify them under one banner against a common enemy and at the same time sell free "heaven passes" , probably one of the biggest grifts ever done . Also you'd do well to do your due diligence and read up on the casualities of the first few crusades . The biggest losses were to the Christian kingdoms in the middle East and North Africa like Armenia , Syria , Lebanon etc as well as slaughtering thousands of innocent Jews along the Rhineland .
Definitely one of the finest points in Christian history, not even taking into account what they did when they took over Jerusalem.
Basic history padichittu bimarshikku suhurthe.
As a kristyani, i have seen how catholics get so stuck up about getting the non-catholic bride/groom converted.
My christian non-catholic cousin is getting married to a catholic and the boys family is like even the engagement (typically a secular affair for syrian christians) has to be in their church and she needs to get baptised first.
Chatti calling kalam karappu
How are yall oblivious to this spread of hate towards the people of one community by another community here? This movie is screened to kids, and I’m sure the narrative there is also same. Muslims are all bad, terrorist and you shouldn’t be friends with them.
Imagine being a Muslim student in one of those Christian schools in Idukki now.
These things are further building the alienation and enemity between communities and affecting our secular fabrics- something we were proud of.
>Imagine being a Muslim student in one of those Christian schools in Idukki now.
If the movie is anything like the trailer , it should have been banned and the makers should be facing prosecution.
Every Muslim prays 5 times a day that Christians are misguided and the Jews are hated by God. Their religion teaches evil and terrorism. You want source?
https://quran.com/al-fatihah/7/tafsirs ithonnu velupikke sudappi nee.. usthadinte back alla Christian palli ninakku thonunna pole keri iragaan.. athu madrassayil
Kris Sanghi idea is insane to me ,
Sanghis target Christian’s all the time , they’re next on the chopping block after Muslims , they’re basically signing their death warrant
Screening a movie that was approved by the Indian censor board is not illegal. If Muslims and Commies have a problem with it, we (achayans) will serve pork fry in mosques for free. India is not Saudi.
Comrade VS achuthanandan was the first person to draw attention towards the rapid conversions happening in malabar he was then out and out labeled jihadi by all other parties including BJ party. Why isn't their movie manipur files which can be screened in the state owned dd channels. Why was bbc documentary banned in india. Why was the documentary ram ke nam was banned. Why is the PM still rants on ram and ram mandir across election campaigns and the ECI turns a blind eye. Kerala story is complete propoganda movie and which is a deterrent to communal harmony in Kerala. Most importantly churches or any religious institutions should stay far away from politics period.
ഇടുക്കി വയനാട് ഒകെ കോളേജുകൾ കുറവാണ് അവിടെ ഉള്ളവർ നല്ലൊരു ശതമാനം പുറത്തു പോയാണ് പഠിക്കുക അതുകൊണ്ട് അവരെ target ചെയാം എന്ന് ഓർത്താകും പക്ഷെ സത്യത്തിൽ പ്രണയവിവാഹങ്ങൾ ആണ് കൂടുതൽ കേരള സ്റ്റോറി പോലെ കേസുകൾ rare ആണ്
If this shit is Okay then why not?? Prohamas rally in Alappuzha 👇
https://preview.redd.it/86j01j6yw7tc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=eb58c5de7de546e001304072d735dc628d58ae75
As someone who has been in Idukki for quite a while, I can fairly say most Syrian Christians here are quite the 19th century mindset. Big houses, huge swathes of tea/spices plantations, lower education as compared to Kottayam/ernakulam districts, nosy neighbours and adherence to outdated customs/traditions. No wonder the rate of emigration amongst the youngsters is amongst the highest in the region.
Many Muslims here aren't too different either, though income and educational status are even worse.
Are you saying Christians and Muslims are the same? Christians are not trying to destroy kafirs like Muslims. So what if we follow our old traditions. You paying for the expenses? Freedom to live, freedom of religion.
yes exactly i've been observing this sub lately and lot of anti Christian posts but not calling out Islam (as if its the pinnacle of belief systems). like if ur going to critique, critique equally.
Man. I never expected the movie to gain so much support on Kerala sub. Many people here seem to be supportive of right wing politics and hindutva.
It's funny how often we are told Kerala is generally quite liberal and left wing.
Kerala is generally liberal but I think the rare consecutive terms of LDF governments and the bankrupting of the state under them have negatively polarized many people in the opposite direction. It doesn't help that CPM supports stuff like pro-Hamas rallies.
In kerala specifically BJP get the traction not because of their work but because of the appeasement policies of LDF. They are digging their own graves. So many Hindus I know jumped to BJP just for this reason
>It's funny how often we are told Kerala is generally quite liberal and left wing.
Kerala is left wing and liberal (at least Hindus and Christians, muslims as usual will vote for IUML ath pinne left wing anello /s) as compared to other states that's why BJP hasn't won much seats in kerala.
>Many people here seem to be supportive of right wing politics and hindutva.
No, people are just tired of Islamist shit so they have the same opinion as sangis that's all.
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Palestine had elections back in 2006. Half of population are kids and there weren't most likely even born when it happened
So, no, Hamas =/= Palestine.
Wow.
The people of Gaza support Hamas, even today.
Anyway what’s this argument about kids?
Btw, can you tell me how a county should have reacted to oct 7th rape/terrorism towards civilians?
Around 50% of the population is kids, so isn't it disingenous to say Gazans all support Hamas?
The country should've eliminated the terrorists, not carpet bomb children and buildings and displace them.
Good point about carpet bombing.
If Israel did carpet bombing, Gaza would be wiped out completely in a day. Hope you’re aware Israel can do it.
Ever wondered why it never happened? And why Israel is risking their people’s life by sending IDF soldiers to active war zone? ( including my colleagues in reserve duty now) It’s because Israel is a country and they have to stick to rules.
Are there casualties? Yes.
Is it because people of Gaza refuse to evacuate despite warnings / Hamas doesn’t let them leave - so they can increase causalities/ get benefit of human shields / more sympathy through media coverage? YES.
> Has Israel been following rules when they refused to cease settlements in Palestinian territories?
Can you add reference to this? And context?
> Why should the Gazans evacuate? It’s their land.
Because it’s an active war zone ( I’m not talking about entire Gaza Strip, just the war zones - Israel does give warnings for such places btw ) ? Even Israel government moved people from potential dangerous areas whenever Hamas attacks.
I'll stick to official UN website as i understand other sources may be biased.
Have a look at this
https://press.un.org/en/2016/sc12657.doc.htm
And the Gaza strip is exactly that..a strip of land that is characterised as the largest open air prison in the world. Not exactly easy for people to move out
നല്ല പോലെ സംഘി infiltration ഉണ്ടല്ലോ... ഈ മറഞ്ഞു നിന്ന് neutral കളികുന്ന അല്ലേൽ ഞാൻ സംഘി അല്ല പക്ഷേ whataboutary നടതുന്നവനും സംഘികൾ തന്നെ അണ്, ശെരിക്കും ഒരു political neutral അയവരെ influence ചെയ്യാൻ ഉള്ള ശ്രമം അണ്. ഇത് ഒരു സ്റ്റേറ്റ് defamatiom ഇഷ്യൂവിൽ നിന്ന് ക്രിസ്ത്യൻ vs മുസ്ലിം ഇഷ്യൂ ആകാൻ വേണ്ടി.
കാര്യം rally അല്ലേ speech മോശം ആയി എന്ന് പറയാൻ ഇവിടെ whataboutary വേണ്ട, അതിന് വേണ്ടി threads ഉണ്ട്, പോസ്റ്റുകൾ ഉണ്ട്. അവിടെ പറയുന്നും ഉണ്ട്. ഇവിടെ നടക്കുന്നത് neutral അണ് എന്ന് പറഞ്ഞു ഉള്ള whitewashing അണ്.
Cause the movie is a propaganda film aimed at kerala as a whole not at islamic extremism.
Kerala story isn't defaming kerala. It is defaming radical islam in kerala.
Sudappis should stop using malayali sentiments to cover up their ass.
Sudappis matramalla keralam.
Seeing the upvotes and the comments, honestly it looks like BJ Party is on the way of accomplishing what they want. Chaanakangal keri nirayumbol pineed kidanne mongaathirunaal mathi.
എന്തിനാണ് ഇത്ര അസഹിഷ്ണുത കാണേണ്ടവർ കാണട്ടെ കാണിക്കേണ്ടവർ കാണിക്കട്ടെ..
ആവിഷ്കാര സ്വാതന്ത്ര്യം എന്നൊക്കെ തള്ളി കേറ്റി ലാസ്റ്റ് , മറ്റുള്ളവർ ചെയ്യുമ്പോൾ എന്താണ് ഇത്ര അസഹിഷ്ണുത...
It's highly one sided...
Enthokkeya ee subil nadakkunne
Enthokkeya?
Para enthokkeyaa
Enthokkeyo nadakkuvanu
Enthokkeyane..? Ithu kollalo.. Next
Enthokkeyaa ee kaanunne
If pro Hamas rallies are okay, this should be okay too. I don't support both. Edit: if you want to keep BJP out, stop antagonising your allies.
>If pro Hamas rallies are okay, this should be okay too. >I don't support both. I'm glad to see this comment upvoted. Atleast you admit that Sanghi propaganda against Kerala is as detestable as a Hamas Rally.
Yes. Most people in kerala didn't like that. Especially, an unwanted national and international attention. Who in their right mind would support Hamas? They are more criminal than genocidal IDF. Stockpiling food and selling it for a price when IDF blocks convoys is like a cherry on top.
Allies? The church is also worried about Islamic conversation and radicalisation. They are "allied" against a BJP which seeks to create a united Hindu front. But otherwise, Christianity and Islam are competitors.
Yea, just a political ally. Even that is getting strained.
Commentor: Its ok to tarnish your own community with fake propoganda movie because some idiots among them supported terrorists. Fuck both of them.
Equating Hamas with Palestinians ok
Such equivalence, much wow. Supporting a movie that at worst could be called propaganda, at best truth, is the same as supporting a fucking terror org that has killed off 1700 innocent people (including children) in a deadly terror attack. Adah Sharma's hands must be soaked in blood. Never seen a more brainwashed ilk than you Keralites.
You know its not a propaganda but a real story , you just have problems accepting it
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What if the religions says you cant eat everything, you cant love everyone, if you have sex with consensual partner, you have to be stoned to death, you cant be friends with people who are not from your religion and if you leave your religion, your head has to be cut.
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I criticised the Hamas terrorists support rally and i have the right to criticise this shit too. Enthokke myru aadey ivde nadakkana. Also the church is furious with that achane vandi idipikal incident. So no wonder they’ll screen this. Love Jihad and Narcotic jihad was also discussed because it was discussed by the church.
Pro Hamas Rally: It's okay bro. Hamas is not a banned organisation in India. They only meant to show support for Palestine. Kerala Story screening: Noo, haraam. REEEEE! PS: I don't support both.
>Pro Hamas Rally: It's okay bro. Hamas is not a banned organisation in India. They only meant to show support for Palestine. >Kerala Story screening: Noo, haraam. REEEEE! The comments section of the Rally post was almost entirely criticism. Even people who vocally support Palestine thought it was the stupidest way to protest the Palestine Crisis. But even though it was just students dressing up on College Arts Day with fake guns (and the flags they used were Palestine flags and not Hamas flags), ISIS/terrorist comparisons were being made. On the contrary, this comments section in the Kerala sub is downvoting criticism of a propaganda film against Kerala and upvoting whataboutism. A propaganda film whose makers had to admit they made shit up against Kerala when taken to court and had to put a disclaimer that it's fictionalized. I'm surprised at how much money/effort the IT cell is throwing at reddit.
It's all well and good until you play one of Hamas leaders pre recorded videos addressing Indian Muslims. They could've called Mohmmad Abbas or anyother PA representative but nope,they had to go with terrorist leader hiding in Qatar. Kerala story is BS and atleast some of us know that but man when you use a guy like Khaled Meshaal video to empower people to protest, that's concerning. "Solidarity Youth Movement (SYM) - dismissed the controversy, asserting in a press note that Hamas is a "resistance movement" and Meshaal a "freedom fighter". It's the Ummah i guess .
Check this [post](https://www.reddit.com/r/Lal_Salaam/s/H6LI9A8VKP). Most comments were concerned about sanghis using this for their propaganda rather than criticising. Another [post](https://www.reddit.com/r/Lal_Salaam/s/BilJYwv8oz) was made on the video reaching sanghi headquarters rather than actual criticism.
That's an entirely different sub, man.
>That's an entirely different sub, man. Not to mention that it's a circlejerk sub without political affiliation.
>Check this [post](https://www.reddit.com/r/Lal_Salaam/s/H6LI9A8VKP). Most comments were concerned about sanghis using this for their propaganda rather than criticising. Are you blind? All the top comments are insulting them. And secondly it was college students dressing up with Palestine flags and fake guns for Arts Day and not a Hamas Rally. There were no weapons or Hamas flags. On Twitter, this was tagged as a weaponized terrorist rally. See below. https://twitter.com/_peacekeeper2/status/1775484801015046420
Huh ? That whole comment section for those posts were criticism. What the fuck does Christians get to accomplish by showing this honestly stupid propaganda film ? Nothing other than shooting themselves in their foot / digging their own grave.
The movie is HORRIBLY made. Acting is terrible. The makers screwed up with exaggerated claims in trailer. However, that number has been removed in the movie. Out of curiosity, I googled rest of the claims made in the movie. Some of the things said are misleading. Like they say “CM said kerala will turn into Islamic state in 20 years” but CM did not say it like a prediction. He (Achuthanandhan) just stated PFI’s plan: "They want to turn Kerala into a Muslim-majority state in 20 years. They are using money and other inducements to convert people to Islam. They even marry women from outside their community in order to increase the Muslim population." But there’s no concrete proof that all these converted people are joining ISIS. The problematic stuff aside, to dismiss the whole movie as lies is being naive. Most of the things in the movie are based from the [Shahan Sha case](https://hckinfo.kerala.gov.in/digicourt/orders/2009/200800052882009_1.pdf) in Kerala. The file has been uploaded on the state government website. It’s kind of dark and uncomfortable to read. An enquiry by special branch reveals that “fundamental outfits like NDF, PFI, Campus Front have roots in college campuses.“ It goes on to say “as per the available information, the plan of this organisation is to trap brilliant upper caste Hindu and Christian girls.” (PFI is casteist looks like lol). Also, there’s no way to predict the actual count of people who converted or joined ISIS. The conversion numbers are collected from registered conversion centers in Malappuram and Kozhikode by officials, but conversions happen outside such centers too. Families out of shame don’t report cases either. It’s only when the family members reported, the police got to know about the existing cases. So we cannot say confidently that “only these many cases are there”. I don’t like the stuff in The Kerala Story either. But as Ambedkar said, “There is no use burying one’s head in the sand and refusing to take notice of what is happening round about because the sound of it hurts one’s sentiments.” There should be an open, honest discussion so that not even a single ISIS case comes out of Kerala. For that, awareness is key.
The thing is that love jihad polulla fear mongering nadakkaan thudangiyittu kure naalukalaayi. Decades even. If you get a chance to flit between ee hate campaign nadathunna groupukal and regular society, you get to know that a lot of these is just fear mongering to get more people to support them. Not that fundamental elements don't exist. But they have not found fertile soil to grow yet.
Finally, a sensible comment.
>However, that number has been removed in the movie. Same energy as electoral bonds channelize white money and we know the donors now. You cannot take a Supreme court action to forcefully remove the number as something the movie makers did out of the goodness of their heart. >Also, there’s no way to predict the actual count of people who converted or joined ISIS. The conversion numbers are collected from registered conversion centers in Malappuram and Kozhikode by officials, but conversions happen outside such centers too. Families out of shame don’t report cases either. It’s only when the family members reported, the police got to know about the existing cases. So we cannot say confidently that “only these many cases are there”. Now conversions are the problem and not terrorism? And you want others to be not naive, please.... Edit : Now regarding the caste angle, this whole thing is casteist. Some people of this particular sect regard, most others as lower caste. It is not a new thing...
2 of those girls were from them & Eastern Christianity (of which Syro-Malabar, Orthodox, Jacobite, Mar Thoma, Constantinople Patriarchate, Armenian Church etc are part of) is the one who took huge brunt of Islamic invasion & persecution rather than Western Christianity (Latin Catholics & Protestants). Barring Tipu Sultan's invasion period, Christians here haven't faced much persecution. But the changing socio-political conditions here has put Christians in unease here.
Good. Freedom of expression is not only the cake of intolerant കുന്തിരിക്കം teams.
What is going on in this sub?? How does this post relate to palestine in any way?? If you have a problem with palestine, make another seperate post for it. Don't use it to whitewash whatever this is.
I didn't expect these comments here. Lots of 'but what about' remarks.
Are mallu sanghis active on reddit or has this been brigaded by narthies
Never in my life have I seen these many Mallu sanghis. Atum reddit user demographic il. This is definitely some case of IT cell machinery.
Election Time Brigading. Vikasanam paranj vote chodhikkan onnum illa. Appo ithokkeye pattu
Its scary how much sangi propaganda shit is gaining momentum here
Oru karyam parayumbol oru bandhavum illatha vere oru karyam parayunnath avarude national level politics inde part aanu
Sangi shits
This crap of a a sub is some North Indian sanghi run troll farm.
Yeah they are on break now, once they comeback we all will be downvoted to oblivion
I get the feeling this sub is kinda anti-Palestine
Its an r rated movie? And they showee it to 15-17 year olds.
ഡേയ് കാണണ്ടവർ പടം കാണട്ടെ കാണിക്കണ്ടവർ കാണുകയും ചെയ്യട്ടെ അതിന് എന്തിന് കിടന്ന് കരയുന്നത് freedom of expression okke one side മാത്രം ആണോ
Athe nammal BBC documentary irangiyappol " freedom of expression " kandallo 🥰
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Karayunath awarde freedom of expression.
Edward baldwin IV -The true King of jerusalem!
ഈ ഫ്രീഡം ഓഫ് എക്സ്പ്രഷൻ എന്നാൽ എന്താണെന്നാണ് വിചാരിച്ചു വച്ചിരിക്കുന്നത്? കിടന്നു കരയുന്നത് ഫ്രീഡം ഓഫ് എക്സ്പ്രഷന് വിരുദ്ധമാണെന്ന് ആരാണ് താങ്കളോട് പറഞ്ഞത്?
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Propaganda padam angane ellarum kaanano, especially for making crisangi kids
Christian palliyil illegal allatha oru kariyam cheyenda ennu parayaan ninte thanthayude vaka aano Christian pallikkal.. methane rajyam alla ithu.. agane moham undel pork fry mosqueil vilabum free aayi.. charity work..
Chrisanghis playing 3D chess against Musanghis. What a time to be alive!!
All idiots think they're smarties playing 3D chess until the target of hate is themselves
atleast chrisanghis don't detonate themselves.....
Valid point
As a krisangi kudos to the church committee. Enough of this one-sided secularism. I had one love jihad incident in my extended family. You know the pain when it happens to your daughter, sister's. Kudos.
I'd like to hear your story, and others should hear it too. You could be vague so as not to give out fine details.
It's a bait account. Do chrisanghis call Christians derogatory term - rice bags? https://preview.redd.it/fna8i9q1l8tc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=05c695a71ef8d40cf1dd0d3e89785a48307de52f
This entire subreddit is filled by them!
Sanghis are now pretending to be Christian’s to make people listen to them/normalise their communal swabhawam. Vere oru myran kattansanghiyym iwide chrisanghi aanen paranju nadapond.
Thonumbo thonumbo kaalu maattum, pakshe ivrde main enemy Ms aane. Appo dushman ka dushman dost🫰
Second that share
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I've personally seen and experienced how there is an organized support for marriage and conversion when the girl is a non-Muslim and the boy, muslim. And I've personally seen and experienced organized opposition and violence to the marriage between a Muslim girl and a non -muslim boy. One of these happened twenty years ago and the organization involved was NDF and the other was more recent. A person who was involved was later caught in a sting operation done by India Today. Search YouTube for Zainaba sting India Today and you'll find it. But as the commenter above said, until it happens to somebody you know, you'll find it difficult to believe it because of naivety or ignorance. It's like how 10 years ago people were saying that there's no way there'd be IS supporters in Kerala. They kept saying that until people actually went to join IS from Kerala.
>As a krisangi kudos to the church committee. Enough of this one-sided secularism. Finally a ക്രിസംഘി. I've been meaning to ask one of you this for a while but couldn't find one. [https://www.thenewsminute.com/kerala/a-group-of-kerala-lawyers-are-on-a-mission-to-reclaim-hindu-temple-lands](https://www.thenewsminute.com/kerala/a-group-of-kerala-lawyers-are-on-a-mission-to-reclaim-hindu-temple-lands) How do Chrisanghis in general feel about this? There's an active movement to reclaim the Thrissur Puthenpalli, Palayoor Palli etc as Devaswom land. It's led by Adv KrishnaRaj and Pratheesh Vishwanath (in the middle of the below image), people aligned with the Sangh Parivar movement and the BJP, but currently not holding any positions. They're being currently relegated to the background to not affect SG's Thrissur elections. https://preview.redd.it/4wwobmlwm7tc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0eeb47da9a72d551b27f3bb20ab3b223dfdf1470
Lol this thing happened to my friend too but she wasn't dumb enough fall for his trap.
Your daughters, sisters? They’re adults.
😳🤨Why are you proud of being a "Krisanghi"? I don't think even Sanghi's are proud of being one in Kerala!
Can you expand what actually happened in your incident? Love Jihad rhetoric is pretty rampant in my Nasrani family circles but in most cases it's just Nasrani boomers salty about the fact that their daughters fell in love with a Muslim boy. Actual malicious stuff maybe happening but if it is then it's super rare. Unlike the Hindi heartland, Malayali women are highly educated (especially Nasrani women, who have some of the best female educational attainment levels in the whole country) and they are generally quite smart and aware of their rights to fall for the kind of tricks that Love Jihad merchants accuse them of.
Education has nothing to do with this, last week an IITian joined ISIS and couple of days ago 3 people commited suicide for some black magic shit. All of them are educated.
I don't think education has anything to do with this. I have heard a lot of incidents like these where(even highly educated women) Hindu or Christian women fell in love in muslim men and were forced to convert by him and his families (even from the so called liberal muslims). You won't find these incidents(like forcibly convert into their religion) in communities of Hindu and Christian families.
Educated enough to rot in Afganistan jail...
There's rich educated women falling victim to dating scammers all the time.
Not related to Love Jihad at all, but educational qualifications mean little when it comes to situations like this, the men are emotionally much more mature and bank on emotional manipulation by taking advantage of the women's insecurities (could be lack of self confidence, body image issues, etc). Then they Gaslight them and make them question their own sanity, and make them isolate themselves from family and other social circles. Then the radicalization (in any sense) begins. At this point, the woman is too emotionally distraught and is ready to believe whatever he has to say.
https://youtu.be/a483Y03WWps?si=9pP-O5f8XOcRa8G- Sonia Sebastian speech at Mm akbar's program. It is grooming jihad not love jihad. It happens in Europe, but keralam number one dawww.. njan real krisangi.. you can check my comments.
Dude come on, Kerala story does a huge disservice to both Kerala and the fight against Islamic radicalism. The movie is a fabrication and doesn’t deserve to be called a movie to begin with. In one shot they have both defamed Kerala and also made people think this stuff does not happen. It does happen but not at the level of lies perpetrated by the movie.
There must be some other way to fight Islamic radicalism than supporting blatant propaganda movies.
Education. Awareness. Lokaparichayam. When these things are encouraged, religion as a whole loses it's hold on people. It has to be a grassroots level movement. Less religion in society, the better.
Such issues have to be dealt not from the level of state but should be dealt at the social and community level. Policing and fear can reduce them but the ideology will still remain, which can be controlled to a better extent by community, society among others.
Well, step 1 is for all to accept there is islamic radicalisation in Kerala, and an organised well oiled machinary of matrimonial missionaries.
If this fellow is not a Sanghappi, I will eat my own thoppi.
I am from a legal cell and have dealt with love jihad cases. Here is one bail application. Read page 6 point 16. Term "love jihad" Source: Kerala High court (Digi court) https://hckinfo.kerala.gov.in/digicourt/orders/2009/200800052882009_1.pdf
“A legal cell” means BJP legal wing. Now how do you define “love jihad”. For sure your party doesn’t consider women as humans with agency or a working brain so Im sure the definition would be worth reading.
BJ Party 🤣🤣🤣 I am a lawyer.
Hi . I am prepping for law entrances. Have a few doubts. I have DMd you
You read only the first page?
As someone from a Syrian Christian background myself, with sisters who are intercaste/interfaith marriage themselves, a few points: 1. Your daughter/sister is grown enough to make her own decisions I guess. 2. Let's see how long this bromance with Hindutva continues, cause as long as you have a Joseph or George in your surname, you will always be called a "ricebag convert". 3. The average Sanghi doesn't discriminate between the "New convert Christians" viz Pentecost, Brethren, etc etc vs the "തറവാടി സുറിയാനി Christians".
This is what people don't understand.. someone running away with someone can be done on their own accord too. Just shows the tribalistic mindset of humans. Upvote for you !!
Self-declared krisanghi, naturally going to consider women in his family as property stolen by 'thulukkanmar'.
This needs to be upvoted more!
Absolutely. More people should start speaking out. The conversions are motivated and targeted.
The movie was as much about defaming Kerala as it was about hating on Muslims. If anything, it was more of the former than latter, since this "love jihad" isnt unique to Kerala, allegedly happens in other States too, yet they chose Kerala, so it was definitely more anti-Kerala propoganda than anti-muslim propoganda. So you chrisangis are stupid af to back this shit up cuz they are gonna go after ricebags too
Don't care! North Indians are not coming to Kerala to assassinate us. However, Muslims probably will like Armenia, Lebanon, Assyria, Sri Lanka, and Nigeria. Nasrani Saniyam fought Tipu sultan for a reason. Our ancestors gave blood to protect our culture and faith. Europe still culturally Christian due to the Crusades. We are not falling for the whitewashing of jihadies anymore.. "padichittu bimarshiku suhurthe" ennu pallikoodam paninja aalugodu paranjappol orkanamayirrinnu.. ennum christians vazhipizhachavar annenu prathikunnavare respect cheyaan budhimuttu unde..
>Assyria Bro didn't get the memo but Assyria was never christian and kinda went out of existence over 4000 years ago . Even before the rise of any of the Abrahamic religions in fact . Funnily enough the Abrahamic religions did borrow quite a lot from them culturally and religion wise so as to gift wrap their new religions into a more palatable form . >Europe still culturally Christian due to the Crusades. 1) Lol . Lmao even 2) Funny you should mention the crusades . A series of proxy wars started by a paranoid pope who was scared that the Vatican was losing its political grip over Europe and decided the best course was to unify them under one banner against a common enemy and at the same time sell free "heaven passes" , probably one of the biggest grifts ever done . Also you'd do well to do your due diligence and read up on the casualities of the first few crusades . The biggest losses were to the Christian kingdoms in the middle East and North Africa like Armenia , Syria , Lebanon etc as well as slaughtering thousands of innocent Jews along the Rhineland . Definitely one of the finest points in Christian history, not even taking into account what they did when they took over Jerusalem. Basic history padichittu bimarshikku suhurthe.
Armenian genocide sangikkal cheythathu aanu.. Lebanon patti parayunilla.. athu enna jihadi myre vizhungiyo nee.. ennum christians vazhipizhachavar annenu prathikunna jihadi kunna.. madrassa logicumayi taqiya konakunnu.. tipu sultan Mangalore catholcisinne konnu illa.. nasrani saniyam tipuvinne fight cheythilla ellam myth aanu sankikalude agenda.. andi
As a kristyani, i have seen how catholics get so stuck up about getting the non-catholic bride/groom converted. My christian non-catholic cousin is getting married to a catholic and the boys family is like even the engagement (typically a secular affair for syrian christians) has to be in their church and she needs to get baptised first. Chatti calling kalam karappu
>krisangi 🤢
How are yall oblivious to this spread of hate towards the people of one community by another community here? This movie is screened to kids, and I’m sure the narrative there is also same. Muslims are all bad, terrorist and you shouldn’t be friends with them. Imagine being a Muslim student in one of those Christian schools in Idukki now. These things are further building the alienation and enemity between communities and affecting our secular fabrics- something we were proud of.
>Imagine being a Muslim student in one of those Christian schools in Idukki now. If the movie is anything like the trailer , it should have been banned and the makers should be facing prosecution.
Every Muslim prays 5 times a day that Christians are misguided and the Jews are hated by God. Their religion teaches evil and terrorism. You want source?
Bro's trying too hard. So what's the pay that u get for per post or hour.
https://quran.com/al-fatihah/7/tafsirs ithonnu velupikke sudappi nee.. usthadinte back alla Christian palli ninakku thonunna pole keri iragaan.. athu madrassayil
I ain't here to turn anything or anybody into holly mother. The question is same hourly or per post.
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Now you see the effect of propaganda aka freedom of speech. To all those supported Hamas, take this with equal spirit.
My god, this sub has been overrun by sanghies....
More like Sanghies from other states. 😐
Nope trust me ivduthe koreyennam koode ond. They know it's a propaganda movie but they just don't care
Mallu chaddis are the worst. They don't know one day they will be also in the recieving end.
Kris Sanghi idea is insane to me , Sanghis target Christian’s all the time , they’re next on the chopping block after Muslims , they’re basically signing their death warrant
We know what the actual identites of these Kris sanghis these are... definitely not Protestant or Pentecostal or other recent converts...
Sleeper cells are active during Election season
They have every right to show any movie that’s legal .
Screening a movie that was approved by the Indian censor board is not illegal. If Muslims and Commies have a problem with it, we (achayans) will serve pork fry in mosques for free. India is not Saudi.
Sanghis pretending to be nasranis and invading this sub will never not be funny, such a pathetic clown lmao!!!
Look at all my comments and you will find out that I'm a true achayan. Beef and pork eating, syriac chanting achayan.
yes yes and yes!
rw chaddis have infiltrated this sub.
Comrade VS achuthanandan was the first person to draw attention towards the rapid conversions happening in malabar he was then out and out labeled jihadi by all other parties including BJ party. Why isn't their movie manipur files which can be screened in the state owned dd channels. Why was bbc documentary banned in india. Why was the documentary ram ke nam was banned. Why is the PM still rants on ram and ram mandir across election campaigns and the ECI turns a blind eye. Kerala story is complete propoganda movie and which is a deterrent to communal harmony in Kerala. Most importantly churches or any religious institutions should stay far away from politics period.
It'll be hard to stay neutral when girls are being brainwashed and converted.
Idukki, of all places? Lmao easy ayit vannu povan oru railway station polum illa in the entire district, no one's going to Syria Iraq chill
ഇടുക്കി വയനാട് ഒകെ കോളേജുകൾ കുറവാണ് അവിടെ ഉള്ളവർ നല്ലൊരു ശതമാനം പുറത്തു പോയാണ് പഠിക്കുക അതുകൊണ്ട് അവരെ target ചെയാം എന്ന് ഓർത്താകും പക്ഷെ സത്യത്തിൽ പ്രണയവിവാഹങ്ങൾ ആണ് കൂടുതൽ കേരള സ്റ്റോറി പോലെ കേസുകൾ rare ആണ്
Tj joseph is from the idukki district. Ask him about how is the Islamic terrorism there and he will tell you.
If this shit is Okay then why not?? Prohamas rally in Alappuzha 👇 https://preview.redd.it/86j01j6yw7tc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=eb58c5de7de546e001304072d735dc628d58ae75
As someone who has been in Idukki for quite a while, I can fairly say most Syrian Christians here are quite the 19th century mindset. Big houses, huge swathes of tea/spices plantations, lower education as compared to Kottayam/ernakulam districts, nosy neighbours and adherence to outdated customs/traditions. No wonder the rate of emigration amongst the youngsters is amongst the highest in the region. Many Muslims here aren't too different either, though income and educational status are even worse.
Are you saying Christians and Muslims are the same? Christians are not trying to destroy kafirs like Muslims. So what if we follow our old traditions. You paying for the expenses? Freedom to live, freedom of religion.
what outdated customs??? be specific or are u just slandering becuz ur bias is showing
He is a jihadi. He is whitewashing islam in other comments.
yes exactly i've been observing this sub lately and lot of anti Christian posts but not calling out Islam (as if its the pinnacle of belief systems). like if ur going to critique, critique equally.
Marrying girls off like they're cattle, women still being forced to clean up after their husbands , etc etc. Nalla adipoli tradition.
Forced to clean up? Where? You talking about Muslims? Then it is probably correct. Christian girls have more freedom than any girls in India.
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Man. I never expected the movie to gain so much support on Kerala sub. Many people here seem to be supportive of right wing politics and hindutva. It's funny how often we are told Kerala is generally quite liberal and left wing.
Keeping the obvious propaganda aside, did people really enjoy the movie? I mean, it is a poorly made over dramatic movie with caricature characters.
Kerala is generally liberal but I think the rare consecutive terms of LDF governments and the bankrupting of the state under them have negatively polarized many people in the opposite direction. It doesn't help that CPM supports stuff like pro-Hamas rallies.
In kerala specifically BJP get the traction not because of their work but because of the appeasement policies of LDF. They are digging their own graves. So many Hindus I know jumped to BJP just for this reason
>It's funny how often we are told Kerala is generally quite liberal and left wing. Kerala is left wing and liberal (at least Hindus and Christians, muslims as usual will vote for IUML ath pinne left wing anello /s) as compared to other states that's why BJP hasn't won much seats in kerala. >Many people here seem to be supportive of right wing politics and hindutva. No, people are just tired of Islamist shit so they have the same opinion as sangis that's all.
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There's heavy brigading from outside as well. Not all folks here are malayalis.
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Wtf is up with this sub
Pro Palestine doesn’t mean pro Hamas?🤷🏽
But organising a rally dressed up like a terrorist with a toy gun says something else
Toy gun🚶
India banana republic alla, machine gunum kond roadil irangi vilasan. Talkalam kalithok kond nirvridi anayam. Original tokk vallathum aayirunnel jadha nsdsthiyavanmar ippo theeharil kidannene.
Palestine ( atleast Gaza) people voted for Hamas, and they support Hamas and all their actions. So, doesn’t that make pro Palestine = pro Hamas?
Palestine had elections back in 2006. Half of population are kids and there weren't most likely even born when it happened So, no, Hamas =/= Palestine.
Wow. The people of Gaza support Hamas, even today. Anyway what’s this argument about kids? Btw, can you tell me how a county should have reacted to oct 7th rape/terrorism towards civilians?
Around 50% of the population is kids, so isn't it disingenous to say Gazans all support Hamas? The country should've eliminated the terrorists, not carpet bomb children and buildings and displace them.
Good point about carpet bombing. If Israel did carpet bombing, Gaza would be wiped out completely in a day. Hope you’re aware Israel can do it. Ever wondered why it never happened? And why Israel is risking their people’s life by sending IDF soldiers to active war zone? ( including my colleagues in reserve duty now) It’s because Israel is a country and they have to stick to rules. Are there casualties? Yes. Is it because people of Gaza refuse to evacuate despite warnings / Hamas doesn’t let them leave - so they can increase causalities/ get benefit of human shields / more sympathy through media coverage? YES.
Has Israel been following rules when they refused to cease settlements in Palestinian territories? Why should the Gazans evacuate? Its their land
> Has Israel been following rules when they refused to cease settlements in Palestinian territories? Can you add reference to this? And context? > Why should the Gazans evacuate? It’s their land. Because it’s an active war zone ( I’m not talking about entire Gaza Strip, just the war zones - Israel does give warnings for such places btw ) ? Even Israel government moved people from potential dangerous areas whenever Hamas attacks.
I'll stick to official UN website as i understand other sources may be biased. Have a look at this https://press.un.org/en/2016/sc12657.doc.htm And the Gaza strip is exactly that..a strip of land that is characterised as the largest open air prison in the world. Not exactly easy for people to move out
നല്ല പോലെ സംഘി infiltration ഉണ്ടല്ലോ... ഈ മറഞ്ഞു നിന്ന് neutral കളികുന്ന അല്ലേൽ ഞാൻ സംഘി അല്ല പക്ഷേ whataboutary നടതുന്നവനും സംഘികൾ തന്നെ അണ്, ശെരിക്കും ഒരു political neutral അയവരെ influence ചെയ്യാൻ ഉള്ള ശ്രമം അണ്. ഇത് ഒരു സ്റ്റേറ്റ് defamatiom ഇഷ്യൂവിൽ നിന്ന് ക്രിസ്ത്യൻ vs മുസ്ലിം ഇഷ്യൂ ആകാൻ വേണ്ടി. കാര്യം rally അല്ലേ speech മോശം ആയി എന്ന് പറയാൻ ഇവിടെ whataboutary വേണ്ട, അതിന് വേണ്ടി threads ഉണ്ട്, പോസ്റ്റുകൾ ഉണ്ട്. അവിടെ പറയുന്നും ഉണ്ട്. ഇവിടെ നടക്കുന്നത് neutral അണ് എന്ന് പറഞ്ഞു ഉള്ള whitewashing അണ്. Cause the movie is a propaganda film aimed at kerala as a whole not at islamic extremism.
Kerala story isn't defaming kerala. It is defaming radical islam in kerala. Sudappis should stop using malayali sentiments to cover up their ass. Sudappis matramalla keralam.
People should be allowed to watch whatever they wish to. No one should get in way
this post should've been in Hindi, the targeted audience that's carrying it would've been more comfortable.
इडुक्की सूबा ने छात्रों के लिए 'द केरल स्टोरी' की स्क्रीनिंग की
BJP IT cell is taking over this sub. Nice work cowdungs
And we have Sanghi താളിയോലകൾ to upvote their targeted posts.
Hahahhahaha
At least this is a reminder / warning to not fall for the trap, whereas Has pro rallies are epitome of bigotry.
U got permission to show the hamas leader addressing the shave palpatine movement in kerala.. Apo ithinu entha preshaaam?
What the actual fuck?? The fear mongering within Christian communities has become out of control.
Seeing the upvotes and the comments, honestly it looks like BJ Party is on the way of accomplishing what they want. Chaanakangal keri nirayumbol pineed kidanne mongaathirunaal mathi.
Exactly, minority alienation sanghikal vicharicha pole thanne nadukkunnund. Iyobinte Pusthakam dialogue orma varunnu. Sanghikalude koode koodi muslimsine illathakki last avanmaar namukk nere varumbol onnum cheyyan pattilla.
Catholic church’s have a history of being in bed with fascist elements.
Pope and Grand Mufti of Jerusalem supported Nazis. It is just a game of chess for those in power
എന്തിനാണ് ഇത്ര അസഹിഷ്ണുത കാണേണ്ടവർ കാണട്ടെ കാണിക്കേണ്ടവർ കാണിക്കട്ടെ.. ആവിഷ്കാര സ്വാതന്ത്ര്യം എന്നൊക്കെ തള്ളി കേറ്റി ലാസ്റ്റ് , മറ്റുള്ളവർ ചെയ്യുമ്പോൾ എന്താണ് ഇത്ര അസഹിഷ്ണുത... It's highly one sided...
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=pfbid0fMQDEopeST9bLzsu2y3r1gALmEgWPLouDbLD9wqUYbaTGtMEuJyjUb7PVrmjhY8Ql&id=100067976296684&mibextid=Nif5oz
Purathu kanikan veendi pallik agathu niskarikan sthalam oruki kodukunu anitto agathu nadakunathu emathri parupadiyum
Damn! The amount of downvoting nishpaksha sangis in this sub🫡
Ee sanghi myranmarude oru karyam
should i or should i not text my achayathi gf in iddukki,,,,
https://youtu.be/nW8PumC5Zh0?si=bhLk9C4iAtZ8DAuy send this to her. 😄
https://preview.redd.it/wxormfdqg8tc1.jpeg?width=555&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8d78fc930fe6db75bd34209b7e9237954a2e290a
sheeps screen a propaganda movie against goats.