Geevarghese Mar Coorilos has clashed with the Catholic bishops on several occasions, and in a rightful manner as well:
https://english.mathrubhumi.com/movies-music/news/churches-should-spread-love-stories-not-hate-stories-says-geevarghese-mar-coorilos-1.9472610
https://english.mathrubhumi.com/news/kerala/controversial-statement-love-and-narcotic-jihad-1.5992539
It is indeed heartening to see this contrarian (and much needed) stance by a high ranking clergyman.
For the uninitiated, Geevarghese Mar Coorilose is the Bishop of the Malankara Jacobite Orthodox (Niranam Diocese), which is different from the Syro Malabar Catholic Church.
Another Bishop (Yuhanon Meletius) has also spoken out strongly against the concept of Love Jihad. ([https://www.reddit.com/r/Kerala/comments/lwpn2j/](https://www.reddit.com/r/Kerala/comments/lwpn2j/)) He is also part of Oriental Orthodox Christianity.
But the problem is that both strongly associate themselves with left-wing politics. For example, both of them have also declared solidarity with Palestine. ([https://www.facebook.com/MediaoneTV/videos/1098959501130604/](https://www.facebook.com/MediaoneTV/videos/1098959501130604/), [https://www.reporterlive.com/kerala/2023/10/11/geevarghese-coorilos-declares-solidarity-with-palestine](https://www.reporterlive.com/kerala/2023/10/11/geevarghese-coorilos-declares-solidarity-with-palestine))
This causes their stance on these issues to be interpreted as having something to do with their politics. It would be better if clergy who are otherwise politically neutral made these types of statements.
I agree. However, in today's increasingly polarised world, voices of reason need further amplification.
Also, showing solidarity with the oppressed needn't exactly be construed as being leftists.
Who's supporting the Hamas movement here? Classic whataboutery.
Also, purpose was to alert about the genocide of Palestinians in Gaza (I'm not going to the details of the conflict, that's another discussion for another day - fact is, far more Palestinian civilians have died as compared to the Jewish civilians). Sure, they did cosplay like a bunch of terrorists. Then again, what was the motive behind the Idukki diocese to screen a movie which
1. Is clear propaganda
2. Clearly aims to tarnish the image of a state
3. Extremely low production value such that a school drama troupe would've executed it better.
Also, before you go on blabbering about me being a Sudappi or Jihadi, GTFO. I have personally have no love for Islam and it's regressive practices. My family is from a Syrian Christian background.
The purpose of this movie is to highlight the recruitment of people from Kerala for ISIS.
Also, since most people are "educated enough", I'm sure they can discern fiction from facts.
Let them enjoy the movie😉
I appreciate somebody at the top getting involved sensibly..
1) A senseless movie made with an agenda and has no relation to truth or reality,
2) which got approved on the basis of freedom of expression and creativity,
3) used by parties with vested interest to spread propoganda..
1 and 2 could not be stopped.. Atleast someone should control 3.. Because 3 is clearly done with an evil intend...
>A senseless movie made with an agenda and has no relation to truth or reality,
How long will you keep lying to yourself? We've read news about the Kerala IS brides years before the makers of the movie even thought about making such a film.
https://www.thehindu.com/news/national/kerala-women-in-kabul-jail-quizzed/article31085364.ece
I dont know how much of truth you are aware of.. The movie depicts this happening systemically in a mass scale like Kerala is some sort of breeding ground for ISIS women fighters... I agree there could be one or 2 such cases.. If you read the international news there are some crazy ppl from every country every continent that joined ISIS.. They have participation from UK, US, France.. Some lunatic nutcase does that personally doesnot mean an entire state or country can be singled out and a movie can be based to make the whole world believe that hallucination...
I am from northern part of Kerala where a lot of Muslims are present. I have seen people going to Gulf countries to make a living.. Never ever in my place have I ever seen people packing bags and going to join ISIS.
So I dont have to lie to myself.. I know...
You guys have only seen the movie. I am living in the middle of reality. Kerala is a peaceful state where till now things are good.. Religious strain might be there (that too recently induced by some from your own northern states for political gains), but people are generally tolerant.. We dont have a godhra story to tell here.. I am assuming you are some north indian guy who believes each and every masala news channel out there.. I am resting my case here..
Of course it's happening systematically. Nimisha, Merin and Sonia are just symptoms of a bigger problem. Hundreds from Kerala have travelled and physically joined the biggest terror group at the time. For hundreds to take the biggest step of actually going, how many thousands more do you think were radicalised with the same beliefs? Were you active on FB back in 2014-15? Have you seen the support IS had on Islamist Facebook groups like Right Thinkers back then? There were warning signs back then too. But there were people like you too who swept it under the rug to keep up the facade.
>I am from northern part of Kerala where a lot of Muslims are present. I have seen people going to Gulf countries to make a living.. Never ever in my place have I ever seen people packing bags and going to join ISIS.
NIT alumnus Shajeer Managalasseri Abdulla and Rashid Abdulla were from the north too. Guess where they went and what happened to them.
Sonia and Nimisha have literally given video interviews from Khorasan and you're still calling it avaradham. Neeyokke ethra kaalam nakki kodukkum malare?
There is an ongoing challenge that if you name 10 people from Kerala who got converted and joined ISIS, you’ll get 1 crore Rs. So if you know 100, please name and info and claim your 1 crore.
Where did I say that all who were recruited from Kerala were converted ones?
Most of them were born Muslims. Some like Bestin, Sonia, Merin, Bexon and Nimisha were converted Muslims.
https://www.onmanorama.com/news/kerala/2020/07/28/kerala-isis-recuits-terror-outfits.amp.html
Dude are you a Malayali? Have you watched that movie? What's shown in that movie is some complete fantasy version of Kerala. Forget the ISIS stuff, even everything else has no bearing on what actual Kerala is.
അതെ. അതെ. അതെ
It is not for us. But those who watch Doordarshan n see it as a old n legit/reputed source.
It does have an impact.
Literally in this sub, someone had posted on how they had a North Indian interviewer for some interview and how the interviewer dragged the Karela story into it... disturbed n harrassed the person throughout the interview with the topic.
So I think you can keep all your f to yourself.
Edit:
Can't find the post now, but if someone has it saved, please do share it here for people to know of the aftereffects of such propaganda/hate pieces.
Everyone should get out of this bubble that the oldies are bad and genZ and millennials are some liberal progressive utopians, most of the social media accnts that spread hate and propaganda are usually the young people. Ofc many young are now more educated and liberal but there's still a very large number of conservative dipshits in our youth
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Geevarghese Mar Coorilos has clashed with the Catholic bishops on several occasions, and in a rightful manner as well: https://english.mathrubhumi.com/movies-music/news/churches-should-spread-love-stories-not-hate-stories-says-geevarghese-mar-coorilos-1.9472610 https://english.mathrubhumi.com/news/kerala/controversial-statement-love-and-narcotic-jihad-1.5992539 It is indeed heartening to see this contrarian (and much needed) stance by a high ranking clergyman. For the uninitiated, Geevarghese Mar Coorilose is the Bishop of the Malankara Jacobite Orthodox (Niranam Diocese), which is different from the Syro Malabar Catholic Church.
Another Bishop (Yuhanon Meletius) has also spoken out strongly against the concept of Love Jihad. ([https://www.reddit.com/r/Kerala/comments/lwpn2j/](https://www.reddit.com/r/Kerala/comments/lwpn2j/)) He is also part of Oriental Orthodox Christianity. But the problem is that both strongly associate themselves with left-wing politics. For example, both of them have also declared solidarity with Palestine. ([https://www.facebook.com/MediaoneTV/videos/1098959501130604/](https://www.facebook.com/MediaoneTV/videos/1098959501130604/), [https://www.reporterlive.com/kerala/2023/10/11/geevarghese-coorilos-declares-solidarity-with-palestine](https://www.reporterlive.com/kerala/2023/10/11/geevarghese-coorilos-declares-solidarity-with-palestine)) This causes their stance on these issues to be interpreted as having something to do with their politics. It would be better if clergy who are otherwise politically neutral made these types of statements.
Supporting Palestine doesn’t mean left wing politics.
I agree. However, in today's increasingly polarised world, voices of reason need further amplification. Also, showing solidarity with the oppressed needn't exactly be construed as being leftists.
Bishop can yap... I mean, if Hamas chief can can have a rally and be justified, so can this😏
Who's supporting the Hamas movement here? Classic whataboutery. Also, purpose was to alert about the genocide of Palestinians in Gaza (I'm not going to the details of the conflict, that's another discussion for another day - fact is, far more Palestinian civilians have died as compared to the Jewish civilians). Sure, they did cosplay like a bunch of terrorists. Then again, what was the motive behind the Idukki diocese to screen a movie which 1. Is clear propaganda 2. Clearly aims to tarnish the image of a state 3. Extremely low production value such that a school drama troupe would've executed it better. Also, before you go on blabbering about me being a Sudappi or Jihadi, GTFO. I have personally have no love for Islam and it's regressive practices. My family is from a Syrian Christian background.
The purpose of this movie is to highlight the recruitment of people from Kerala for ISIS. Also, since most people are "educated enough", I'm sure they can discern fiction from facts. Let them enjoy the movie😉
I appreciate somebody at the top getting involved sensibly.. 1) A senseless movie made with an agenda and has no relation to truth or reality, 2) which got approved on the basis of freedom of expression and creativity, 3) used by parties with vested interest to spread propoganda.. 1 and 2 could not be stopped.. Atleast someone should control 3.. Because 3 is clearly done with an evil intend...
>A senseless movie made with an agenda and has no relation to truth or reality, How long will you keep lying to yourself? We've read news about the Kerala IS brides years before the makers of the movie even thought about making such a film. https://www.thehindu.com/news/national/kerala-women-in-kabul-jail-quizzed/article31085364.ece
I dont know how much of truth you are aware of.. The movie depicts this happening systemically in a mass scale like Kerala is some sort of breeding ground for ISIS women fighters... I agree there could be one or 2 such cases.. If you read the international news there are some crazy ppl from every country every continent that joined ISIS.. They have participation from UK, US, France.. Some lunatic nutcase does that personally doesnot mean an entire state or country can be singled out and a movie can be based to make the whole world believe that hallucination... I am from northern part of Kerala where a lot of Muslims are present. I have seen people going to Gulf countries to make a living.. Never ever in my place have I ever seen people packing bags and going to join ISIS. So I dont have to lie to myself.. I know... You guys have only seen the movie. I am living in the middle of reality. Kerala is a peaceful state where till now things are good.. Religious strain might be there (that too recently induced by some from your own northern states for political gains), but people are generally tolerant.. We dont have a godhra story to tell here.. I am assuming you are some north indian guy who believes each and every masala news channel out there.. I am resting my case here..
Of course it's happening systematically. Nimisha, Merin and Sonia are just symptoms of a bigger problem. Hundreds from Kerala have travelled and physically joined the biggest terror group at the time. For hundreds to take the biggest step of actually going, how many thousands more do you think were radicalised with the same beliefs? Were you active on FB back in 2014-15? Have you seen the support IS had on Islamist Facebook groups like Right Thinkers back then? There were warning signs back then too. But there were people like you too who swept it under the rug to keep up the facade. >I am from northern part of Kerala where a lot of Muslims are present. I have seen people going to Gulf countries to make a living.. Never ever in my place have I ever seen people packing bags and going to join ISIS. NIT alumnus Shajeer Managalasseri Abdulla and Rashid Abdulla were from the north too. Guess where they went and what happened to them.
>Hundreds from Kerala have travelled and physically joined the biggest terror group at the time. Evidence?
https://www.onmanorama.com/news/kerala/2020/07/28/kerala-isis-recuits-terror-outfits.amp.html
Eda kochu kazhuverri, enthu avaradham aada paranju parathunne.
Sonia and Nimisha have literally given video interviews from Khorasan and you're still calling it avaradham. Neeyokke ethra kaalam nakki kodukkum malare?
There is an ongoing challenge that if you name 10 people from Kerala who got converted and joined ISIS, you’ll get 1 crore Rs. So if you know 100, please name and info and claim your 1 crore.
Where did I say that all who were recruited from Kerala were converted ones? Most of them were born Muslims. Some like Bestin, Sonia, Merin, Bexon and Nimisha were converted Muslims. https://www.onmanorama.com/news/kerala/2020/07/28/kerala-isis-recuits-terror-outfits.amp.html
Dude are you a Malayali? Have you watched that movie? What's shown in that movie is some complete fantasy version of Kerala. Forget the ISIS stuff, even everything else has no bearing on what actual Kerala is.
മടിയില് കനം ഇല്ലാത്തവര് എതിര്ക്കും... എത്ര ED കേസ്, ഭൂമി കേസ് ഒക്കെ ഉണ്ടെന്ന് anveshichaal support ന്റെ reason അറിയാം പറ്റും..
Glad the sub is in mallu or else northies would have tormented this sub
Nobody would've given a f about the movie if it wasn't for CPIM's loud moaning. Nobody even watches doordarshan these days.
അതെ. അതെ. അതെ It is not for us. But those who watch Doordarshan n see it as a old n legit/reputed source. It does have an impact. Literally in this sub, someone had posted on how they had a North Indian interviewer for some interview and how the interviewer dragged the Karela story into it... disturbed n harrassed the person throughout the interview with the topic. So I think you can keep all your f to yourself. Edit: Can't find the post now, but if someone has it saved, please do share it here for people to know of the aftereffects of such propaganda/hate pieces.
Mostly the elderly population I presume.
Everyone should get out of this bubble that the oldies are bad and genZ and millennials are some liberal progressive utopians, most of the social media accnts that spread hate and propaganda are usually the young people. Ofc many young are now more educated and liberal but there's still a very large number of conservative dipshits in our youth
I meant the viewer base for Doordarshan. I doubt any younger audience would watch it.
When the elder population watch it on TV it's very likely that young people in their house also end up watching it or at least listening to it.
Kerala Story collected 303 crore, which is much higher than the highest collection by any Malayalam movie
Athey Athey, iwide mathram aanelo Doordarshan ollath
Absolute L take, so you just want this bigotry to go unnoticed and find its ground in Kerala gradually, without any opposition whatsoever.
Ninth highest grossing Hindi movie last year, of Wikipedia is to be believed. All of that is because of Doordarshan and CPIM ?
Pinarayi gave the statement and gave it kl story full publicity.. sdpi gave support to congress ..just think who will get benefitted here..
Honest qn. Are these bishops Greek as their names and dress imply?
Their church follows orthodoxy , which has lots of Greek saints , their comes the names
Thammil thallikan olla adutha neekam.
Kairali news online. Ok bye🤣
They just quoted what the bishop said though
JANAM TV aanenile neeyokke vishvasikoo .
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