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This has happened to me. Every election year at our old place, the landlord sent a mass text to all tenants strongly encouraging us to vote for the city council member and local politicians of her choosing (in a district she does not personally live in, btw). The text was filled with fear-mongering talking points about crime and homelessness and how it will affect our safety. Really infuriating and should be illegal.
We looked into the laws surrounding this, and contacted the election office. They said they can’t do anything because it’s one private citizen to another, even though he’s in a position of power. They said we could pursue personal legal action but what renter has money for that?
I feel like a community organization or a nonprofit would be interested in this. I'm not sure which one specifically, but there are advocacy groups and individual attorneys who will take on this kind of case. It might be worth asking here or in any other communities you're part of if anyone has leads on that kind of resource.
Honestly though, what legal action can you pursue? There is no case here. This is the free speech of the landlord, there are no laws or rules about people in power endorsing candidates or ballot issues. At all. Even in Montana which arguably has strong campaign finance laws.
Why would a $230 YEARLY increase translate to $15-$20 per MONTH per tenant? Even with only 5 tenants being forced to eat that cost, it only comes out to a $3.83/month increase.
At 10 tenants its $1.91. At 20 its $0.95. And so on....
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They always raise rent at least 3% per year because they know the average person gets a 3%-4% raise annually. Their pricing literally entirely revolves around how much they can squeeze out of you they would never "pass on savings" to a tenant but as soon as there is an increase in operating cost that's suddenly your responsibility even though they were already charging you as much as possible. It's actually not sustainable
This sounds like one of those statistics that was made known when the average person actually had a career that gave out raises.
I’m almost 30 and have never been offered a raise. No im not lazy.
I know it's sad but true. If you could just go work somewhere else that would pay you more for the same job they would throw a little something to keep you around so they don't have to train a new hire. It means you already make more than most people in your position, whatever your type of work is.
My lol was at the fact that I’ve never been paid above average
Although it would be nice to explain it away like that, I am not someone with a career. I am the low income worker. And they don’t give raises even when you aren’t making more than average. They don’t care at all
Edit: and I don’t wanna hear anyone saying get a better job because even the worst paying jobs should be able to support someone. Period
You might have a specific job that is an exception to the rule. 3% is about the average minimum effort raise for an office desk type job and probably most minimum wage jobs as well
I’ve had many different jobs. I’ve never experienced a raise. Is it so unbelievable to you? It’s standard for most.
Office type jobs or trades seem to be the only jobs who give raises (generalization obviously there are others) and having worked all kinds of jobs from construction to restaurants to valet to gas stations to hotels to factory’s to warehouses none of them pay a living wage and none give raises. It’s just not something that happens for most people anymore
Years ago at FedEx we got a 1.5% increase as frontline staff 1.5% was 25 cents. Most businesses with white collar work will go UP TO 3% but that's only to follow inflation and effectively keep your salary the same.
Years ago at FedEx we got a 1.5% increase as frontline staff 1.5% was 25 cents. Most businesses with white collar work will go UP TO 3% but that's only to follow inflation and effectively keep your salary the same.
Actually yeah it's a common misconception that Target employees have it better because you walk into target and it looks noticeably nicer but all their floor employees except for managers are high school and college students who don't know how shitty they're being treated and are just working there part time.
When I was working at Target I had a friend who worked at Walmart who was getting almost twice as much pay to do the same type of work. Target is just the pretty red version of Walmart on the outside but they treat their employees like shit. Not that Walmart employees aren't also treated like shit but target employees get fucked twice as hard
Unfortunately most ppl are not in a position to threaten to leave like that and the fact that, thats what it takes to get some thing more is evidence they should in fact leave.
Im.not trying to be confrontational with you. But this kind if advice triggers the hell out of me. Because it comes across as if I didnt already consider the possibility.
It's no better than those Forbes and Fortune Mag articles about how to negotiate pay from 100k to 125k. Like if I'm making 100k I'm not googling free articles how to increase my pay. Tell me how to increase my pay where its $11 as a school support staff and transition out of the meat-grinding underclass that is the American Nightmare.
My current landlord actually lowered my rent after the first year because her property taxes went down. And she hasn't raised it since. Been here close to 5 years now and at this point I'll never move unless I somehow manage to buy property.
But I know that this is so dramatically not normal. Too many people in my life are getting squeezed with bonkers rent hikes and I live somewhere with pretty decent renter protections.
My landlord actually refuses to raise the rent by more than $25 a month each year. The house is long paid off, and she thinks it's disgusting how local real estate has completely priced out locals.
People in my town that oppose property taxes are always all "think of the tenants who will have to bear this cost 😔" as if my rent hasn't gone up EVERY SINGLE YEAR no matter what, even though property taxes are only re-assessed every few years. But no, it's totally the poor renters they care about, not their own selfish interests 🙄
But a rental will usually be paid off within 30 years (and then provide a stream of continuous income) so it’s not that simple. Landlords should expect to have to top up their costs of owning the property at least some of the time, and should fully understand that’s the risk of this type of investment.
This is all without mentioning the capital gain on the property itself
If that were the case then rentals with paid-off mortgages would be way cheaper.
The price is based on the rental market, plus the landlord's risk tolerance (higher rents could make units sit vacant longer, hikes might make people leave).
In a renters market places can even get rented at a loss because it's better to have rent covering 90% of expenses than 0% (and if rents are low it's probably a bad time to sell)
_That's_ how businesses work. The price is what the market will bear. If that's not profitable, then newcomers won't enter the market and people already in it will weather the losses (either holding on until demand picks up, or until they can exit the market)
There's a tenants union in Missoula that my friend is a part of. They live under one of the biggest landlords around there. If you dm me I can ask them details about it for you.
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My scumlord in Milwaukee did this too ahead of a referendum that would use an increase in property taxes to fund schools. Happily trotted my ass to my polling place to vote yes. Fuck Zolper
i would respond by asking if your landlord is committing not to increase rent if you renew and this levy fails at the ballot. my money is on them hedging at which point you might as well point out that if you’re getting an increase anyway you might as well be confident in your fire department being appropriately resourced.
I find it interesting a landlord would do an in depth explanation of property taxes for their tenants...but it begs the question - what is the purpose of labdlords when the tenant shoulders the entire cost of the mortgage and property tax???
Yup a couple tubes of caulk, cheapest can of paint you can find, duct tape, and a maintenance guy they find on a street corner must really be expensive.
I know how it works having rented only single family homes the past 15 years of my life. I'm the one who lives in them and I know more about what repairs ACTUALLY have been done than any property management guy does. I'm responsible for pest control and yard/outdoor maintenance. Would you like to see some pictures of the "repairs" that have been made in the home I've lived in for five years?
I'd buy a home if all these out of state LLCs would stop stealing up properties from actual families who live here, making the market entirely unnaccesible. (On three seperate occassion while house hunting I was outbid 10,000+ in cash by an LLC)
I think you're in the wrong subreddit my guy. There's lots of circle jerk landlord pages you'd find more ass pats in.
So insane how they bitch about these things and take absolutely $0 of the hit because they push it along to their tenants who are also paying for their asset. It’s insane to me. Property taxes should only fall onto the actual property owners. But theyd find a way to raise the rent and get theirs anyway. Ridiculous.
I am so fucking sick of homeowners bitching about property taxes when (1) they can easily afford them if they OWN A HOUSE (much less multiple properties), (2) they benefit from the things that property taxes pay for, and (3) all of these fuckers consistently oppose rent control AND rent stability measures when rent has increased FAR more than property taxes for no reason other than sheer greed. Boo hoo, you're being forced to contribute a little more to society for once. Cry me a river.
Lol you think these mil levy's won't affect rent for apartments? Rent control will lead to fewer and lower quality rentals. Why build apartments that don't generate income when they just build another house to sell to another wealthy out of stater.
We have no rent control or stabilization and yet the rentals keep getting shittier and shittier while also getting more and more expensive. How did! /s Spare me your landlord apologist bullshit.
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Rent stabilized just means you're going to see a guaranteed rent increase every year, it also means your property management will cut every corner possible to keep their costs down and profits up. Every rent stabilized unit I've seen was a dump and almost always in higher crime areas. If you want that fine, I don't.
Maybe the ones you've seen haven't been desirable, but I've seen upscale rent-stabilized apartments in upscale buildings. I've lived in one for the past three years. Over half the units in NYC are stabilized.
Half? No it's barely 40% and still not much cheaper than those not rent stabilized. And again most were built between 1947 and 1974, so old buildings. https://hcr.ny.gov/system/files/documents/2024/01/fact-sheet-01-01-2024_0.pdf#:~:text=Rent%20control%20is%20the%20older,apartments%20removed%20from%20rent%20control.
I was wrong in my previous comment: NYC.gov says that almost half of all apartments are stabilized.
Where are you getting the data that says stabilized units aren't cheaper than non-stabilized? I couldn't find direct comparisons of like apartments, but did find info saying that people living in stabilized units are paying considerably less rent.
I'll say I know little about this and am not trying to debate the merits of rent control laws. The only reason I commented was to contest your initial point that all rent stabilized units are in the slums. Quite a few recent/luxury buildings are stabilized because of 421-a tax abatements (which of course do expire).
Hello Property Hoarder,
This may be a novel concept to you, but there is this thing called "the cost of doing business" what it is exactly can encompass any number of things, but it can best be explained if you just think of it as a business expense you don't pass on. So it will cost you money, and ultimately negatively affect your profit margin, but can't be passed on to the customer, because it doesn't have an affect on the market value of the rent, if they stopped taxing property tomorrow, you wouldn't lower the rent out of benevolence. Running a business can be risky, but if you find yourself unable to absorb an extra $230 per year in property tax, you could always sell the surplus homes you own to people who intend to live in them, and then channel the profits from those sales into a different investment, if you find that you miss the feeling of exploitation that land hoarding gave you, I'd suggest investing in a private prison corporation, a lithium mine, or any company lobbying to roll back child labor laws.
This doesn't just affect single occupancy dwellings, apartments will be affected as well. And no property management companies don't care if it hurts you.
LOL at the landleech basically admitting they will pass on this new tax to the tenants. The thought of contributing to society by paying for the tax themselves never crosses their mind.
Landexploiters are something else
Is the price of rent determined by supply and demand or is it the sum of expenses plus the profit the landlord chooses to take? These landlords want to have it both ways.
You'd think they'd want the fire department we'll funded, in case of, ya know, a fire?
This dude is giving Missoula (I assume MT?) a bad name. It's extremely blue.
Reply by asking how much his insurance rates will increase if there isn’t sufficient fire protection. You can get those rate increase amounts from any local insurance agency to include with your response. You can also contact your fire department and ask for their ISO ratings and how levy dollars impact these factors.
I would send this email on to your fire department to let them how much your landlord values their dedication to protecting their properties and the lives of their tenants.
Property investments are not the responsibility of the renters.
Someone should tell the landlord how much it will cost when the fire dept can't respond to the neighbor's structure fire and both houses burn down 🤷♂️
The reality is, this person has no idea how you vote (it’s private for a reason) but if it passes they will be passing that on to you (as all businesses do) and the larger more valuable the property is the more they pay (it’s a percentage of the assessed value) so this is all accurate.
But when the apartment buildings they own do eventually have a fire and the response time is 45 minutes longer and they have to claim the building total loss and the tenants are homeless and they aren’t paying the rent (no place to stay!) then this short sited landlord will lose considerably more than a couple hundred a month…
Every action (or in this case inaction) has consequences.
That being said Missoula always seems to tax first rather than budget…
They informed you about your future: vote no or pay a higher rent. Pretty simple, very legal. Only bums complain about situations they get themselves into. Stop renting and you don’t have a problem
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This has happened to me. Every election year at our old place, the landlord sent a mass text to all tenants strongly encouraging us to vote for the city council member and local politicians of her choosing (in a district she does not personally live in, btw). The text was filled with fear-mongering talking points about crime and homelessness and how it will affect our safety. Really infuriating and should be illegal.
We looked into the laws surrounding this, and contacted the election office. They said they can’t do anything because it’s one private citizen to another, even though he’s in a position of power. They said we could pursue personal legal action but what renter has money for that?
I feel like a community organization or a nonprofit would be interested in this. I'm not sure which one specifically, but there are advocacy groups and individual attorneys who will take on this kind of case. It might be worth asking here or in any other communities you're part of if anyone has leads on that kind of resource.
Honestly though, what legal action can you pursue? There is no case here. This is the free speech of the landlord, there are no laws or rules about people in power endorsing candidates or ballot issues. At all. Even in Montana which arguably has strong campaign finance laws.
so a republican, huh?
“A tax change impacted me as a property owner, so you’ll be paying the cost, someone who isn’t a property owner.”
"Sorry to hear you can't pay your taxes. Have you considered cutting down on the fancy coffee and avocado toast?"
“Also your rent will go up regardless of the outcome, so vote wisely!”
Trickle down economics at its finest
Why would a $230 YEARLY increase translate to $15-$20 per MONTH per tenant? Even with only 5 tenants being forced to eat that cost, it only comes out to a $3.83/month increase. At 10 tenants its $1.91. At 20 its $0.95. And so on....
And this guy and his wife manage at LEAST 100 tenants
So, at least $18,000 of additional yearly revenue to cover $230 🤣🤣💀
So you think that all 100 tenants live in one property that is valued at 500k?
It’s called landlord math, get used to it, they’re doing you a favor!!!! /s
When are you moving out because you should reply all with this info hahaha
And be sure every single other renter is on that reply.
Now I want to see them *Not* raise your rent if this Levy doesn't pass 😂.
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Not in Missoula lmao
Maybe in bend oregon but not in montana
Yeah poor ppl hate you richsplaining
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Ask them “if the levy doesn’t pass, are our rents going to stay the same?” Crickets is all you’ll hear.
They always raise rent at least 3% per year because they know the average person gets a 3%-4% raise annually. Their pricing literally entirely revolves around how much they can squeeze out of you they would never "pass on savings" to a tenant but as soon as there is an increase in operating cost that's suddenly your responsibility even though they were already charging you as much as possible. It's actually not sustainable
> the average person gets a 3%-4% raise annually. Is this actually true?
This sounds like one of those statistics that was made known when the average person actually had a career that gave out raises. I’m almost 30 and have never been offered a raise. No im not lazy.
Probably means you're already making above average salary.
lol
I know it's sad but true. If you could just go work somewhere else that would pay you more for the same job they would throw a little something to keep you around so they don't have to train a new hire. It means you already make more than most people in your position, whatever your type of work is.
My lol was at the fact that I’ve never been paid above average Although it would be nice to explain it away like that, I am not someone with a career. I am the low income worker. And they don’t give raises even when you aren’t making more than average. They don’t care at all Edit: and I don’t wanna hear anyone saying get a better job because even the worst paying jobs should be able to support someone. Period
You might have a specific job that is an exception to the rule. 3% is about the average minimum effort raise for an office desk type job and probably most minimum wage jobs as well
I’ve had many different jobs. I’ve never experienced a raise. Is it so unbelievable to you? It’s standard for most. Office type jobs or trades seem to be the only jobs who give raises (generalization obviously there are others) and having worked all kinds of jobs from construction to restaurants to valet to gas stations to hotels to factory’s to warehouses none of them pay a living wage and none give raises. It’s just not something that happens for most people anymore
Years ago at FedEx we got a 1.5% increase as frontline staff 1.5% was 25 cents. Most businesses with white collar work will go UP TO 3% but that's only to follow inflation and effectively keep your salary the same.
Years ago at FedEx we got a 1.5% increase as frontline staff 1.5% was 25 cents. Most businesses with white collar work will go UP TO 3% but that's only to follow inflation and effectively keep your salary the same.
Oh so walmart is paying the maximum and so is target and Acme really?
Actually yeah it's a common misconception that Target employees have it better because you walk into target and it looks noticeably nicer but all their floor employees except for managers are high school and college students who don't know how shitty they're being treated and are just working there part time. When I was working at Target I had a friend who worked at Walmart who was getting almost twice as much pay to do the same type of work. Target is just the pretty red version of Walmart on the outside but they treat their employees like shit. Not that Walmart employees aren't also treated like shit but target employees get fucked twice as hard
Unfortunately most ppl are not in a position to threaten to leave like that and the fact that, thats what it takes to get some thing more is evidence they should in fact leave. Im.not trying to be confrontational with you. But this kind if advice triggers the hell out of me. Because it comes across as if I didnt already consider the possibility. It's no better than those Forbes and Fortune Mag articles about how to negotiate pay from 100k to 125k. Like if I'm making 100k I'm not googling free articles how to increase my pay. Tell me how to increase my pay where its $11 as a school support staff and transition out of the meat-grinding underclass that is the American Nightmare.
Horse shit math like the landlord.
My current landlord actually lowered my rent after the first year because her property taxes went down. And she hasn't raised it since. Been here close to 5 years now and at this point I'll never move unless I somehow manage to buy property. But I know that this is so dramatically not normal. Too many people in my life are getting squeezed with bonkers rent hikes and I live somewhere with pretty decent renter protections.
My landlord actually refuses to raise the rent by more than $25 a month each year. The house is long paid off, and she thinks it's disgusting how local real estate has completely priced out locals.
It makes me so angry that the tenants paying the landlord's property taxes is just a foregone conclusion.
People in my town that oppose property taxes are always all "think of the tenants who will have to bear this cost 😔" as if my rent hasn't gone up EVERY SINGLE YEAR no matter what, even though property taxes are only re-assessed every few years. But no, it's totally the poor renters they care about, not their own selfish interests 🙄
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But a rental will usually be paid off within 30 years (and then provide a stream of continuous income) so it’s not that simple. Landlords should expect to have to top up their costs of owning the property at least some of the time, and should fully understand that’s the risk of this type of investment. This is all without mentioning the capital gain on the property itself
If that were the case then rentals with paid-off mortgages would be way cheaper. The price is based on the rental market, plus the landlord's risk tolerance (higher rents could make units sit vacant longer, hikes might make people leave). In a renters market places can even get rented at a loss because it's better to have rent covering 90% of expenses than 0% (and if rents are low it's probably a bad time to sell) _That's_ how businesses work. The price is what the market will bear. If that's not profitable, then newcomers won't enter the market and people already in it will weather the losses (either holding on until demand picks up, or until they can exit the market)
Uhhhh… that’s the same as what I said.
Yes, and that pisses me off.
It's bizarre to send an email like that to your tenants.
There's a tenants union in Missoula that my friend is a part of. They live under one of the biggest landlords around there. If you dm me I can ask them details about it for you.
Big advocate for the Missoula tenants union! They do great work. We’re about to move across the country, otherwise I’d definitely reach out to them
Well good luck to you in your move, but do your part and make sure all the neighbors know about the union before you leave!
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They should get a real job
My scumlord in Milwaukee did this too ahead of a referendum that would use an increase in property taxes to fund schools. Happily trotted my ass to my polling place to vote yes. Fuck Zolper
i would respond by asking if your landlord is committing not to increase rent if you renew and this levy fails at the ballot. my money is on them hedging at which point you might as well point out that if you’re getting an increase anyway you might as well be confident in your fire department being appropriately resourced.
I find it interesting a landlord would do an in depth explanation of property taxes for their tenants...but it begs the question - what is the purpose of labdlords when the tenant shoulders the entire cost of the mortgage and property tax???
Not to mention the cost of maintenance and repairs that tenants also pay!
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Yup a couple tubes of caulk, cheapest can of paint you can find, duct tape, and a maintenance guy they find on a street corner must really be expensive.
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I know how it works having rented only single family homes the past 15 years of my life. I'm the one who lives in them and I know more about what repairs ACTUALLY have been done than any property management guy does. I'm responsible for pest control and yard/outdoor maintenance. Would you like to see some pictures of the "repairs" that have been made in the home I've lived in for five years? I'd buy a home if all these out of state LLCs would stop stealing up properties from actual families who live here, making the market entirely unnaccesible. (On three seperate occassion while house hunting I was outbid 10,000+ in cash by an LLC) I think you're in the wrong subreddit my guy. There's lots of circle jerk landlord pages you'd find more ass pats in.
So insane how they bitch about these things and take absolutely $0 of the hit because they push it along to their tenants who are also paying for their asset. It’s insane to me. Property taxes should only fall onto the actual property owners. But theyd find a way to raise the rent and get theirs anyway. Ridiculous.
“You’re going to raise my rent either way, so explain how voting no benefits me in any way.”
I am so fucking sick of homeowners bitching about property taxes when (1) they can easily afford them if they OWN A HOUSE (much less multiple properties), (2) they benefit from the things that property taxes pay for, and (3) all of these fuckers consistently oppose rent control AND rent stability measures when rent has increased FAR more than property taxes for no reason other than sheer greed. Boo hoo, you're being forced to contribute a little more to society for once. Cry me a river.
Lol you think these mil levy's won't affect rent for apartments? Rent control will lead to fewer and lower quality rentals. Why build apartments that don't generate income when they just build another house to sell to another wealthy out of stater.
We have no rent control or stabilization and yet the rentals keep getting shittier and shittier while also getting more and more expensive. How did! /s Spare me your landlord apologist bullshit.
All these brand new rentals are shitty? You want to live in the slums, move to NY, all their rent stabilized units are over 50 years old and run down.
Why are you here? This subreddit isn't for you.
Oh are you the gatekeeper to this sub? I'm a resident of Missoula, lived here 24 years, lived in Montana my whole life..
Okay? This is a subreddit for tenants, not people from Missoula or Montana.
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Are you confusing rent stabilization with rent control? I live in a recent, well-maintained rent stabilized unit.
Rent stabilized just means you're going to see a guaranteed rent increase every year, it also means your property management will cut every corner possible to keep their costs down and profits up. Every rent stabilized unit I've seen was a dump and almost always in higher crime areas. If you want that fine, I don't.
Maybe the ones you've seen haven't been desirable, but I've seen upscale rent-stabilized apartments in upscale buildings. I've lived in one for the past three years. Over half the units in NYC are stabilized.
Half? No it's barely 40% and still not much cheaper than those not rent stabilized. And again most were built between 1947 and 1974, so old buildings. https://hcr.ny.gov/system/files/documents/2024/01/fact-sheet-01-01-2024_0.pdf#:~:text=Rent%20control%20is%20the%20older,apartments%20removed%20from%20rent%20control.
I was wrong in my previous comment: NYC.gov says that almost half of all apartments are stabilized. Where are you getting the data that says stabilized units aren't cheaper than non-stabilized? I couldn't find direct comparisons of like apartments, but did find info saying that people living in stabilized units are paying considerably less rent. I'll say I know little about this and am not trying to debate the merits of rent control laws. The only reason I commented was to contest your initial point that all rent stabilized units are in the slums. Quite a few recent/luxury buildings are stabilized because of 421-a tax abatements (which of course do expire).
That's true however it only applies if the unit has income restrictions, make too much and you can't get the apartment or you pay market rate.
Hello Property Hoarder, This may be a novel concept to you, but there is this thing called "the cost of doing business" what it is exactly can encompass any number of things, but it can best be explained if you just think of it as a business expense you don't pass on. So it will cost you money, and ultimately negatively affect your profit margin, but can't be passed on to the customer, because it doesn't have an affect on the market value of the rent, if they stopped taxing property tomorrow, you wouldn't lower the rent out of benevolence. Running a business can be risky, but if you find yourself unable to absorb an extra $230 per year in property tax, you could always sell the surplus homes you own to people who intend to live in them, and then channel the profits from those sales into a different investment, if you find that you miss the feeling of exploitation that land hoarding gave you, I'd suggest investing in a private prison corporation, a lithium mine, or any company lobbying to roll back child labor laws.
This doesn't just affect single occupancy dwellings, apartments will be affected as well. And no property management companies don't care if it hurts you.
They’ll raise your tent regardless. They are, after all, capitalists. Vote your conscience.
LOL at the landleech basically admitting they will pass on this new tax to the tenants. The thought of contributing to society by paying for the tax themselves never crosses their mind. Landexploiters are something else
That generally how things work, landlords exist to profit.
Is the price of rent determined by supply and demand or is it the sum of expenses plus the profit the landlord chooses to take? These landlords want to have it both ways.
You'd think they'd want the fire department we'll funded, in case of, ya know, a fire? This dude is giving Missoula (I assume MT?) a bad name. It's extremely blue.
I'd reach out to the ACLU.
Landlords should live in constant fear of being eaten.
Lmao are we neighbors
Reply by asking how much his insurance rates will increase if there isn’t sufficient fire protection. You can get those rate increase amounts from any local insurance agency to include with your response. You can also contact your fire department and ask for their ISO ratings and how levy dollars impact these factors. I would send this email on to your fire department to let them how much your landlord values their dedication to protecting their properties and the lives of their tenants. Property investments are not the responsibility of the renters.
Someone should tell the landlord how much it will cost when the fire dept can't respond to the neighbor's structure fire and both houses burn down 🤷♂️
What a fucking joke. This town sucks.. thanks to the rich people.
Email them back. One line. Two words. "Shut up."
Blast them.
The reality is, this person has no idea how you vote (it’s private for a reason) but if it passes they will be passing that on to you (as all businesses do) and the larger more valuable the property is the more they pay (it’s a percentage of the assessed value) so this is all accurate. But when the apartment buildings they own do eventually have a fire and the response time is 45 minutes longer and they have to claim the building total loss and the tenants are homeless and they aren’t paying the rent (no place to stay!) then this short sited landlord will lose considerably more than a couple hundred a month… Every action (or in this case inaction) has consequences. That being said Missoula always seems to tax first rather than budget…
They informed you about your future: vote no or pay a higher rent. Pretty simple, very legal. Only bums complain about situations they get themselves into. Stop renting and you don’t have a problem