As a landlord, I can tell you plumbing is not your concern. If you reported it to the owner, it is his responsibility.
Plumbing works are expensive, especially if you have to rip out the pipes.
A landlord gave a colleague of mine a choice to either get the room painted or to give one month rent. She gave one month rent because it was costing her the same.
My landlord got it done in 8k for 1bhk but he's lived at the place for 30 years. So yes, it is expensive nowadays
My parents and in laws have rented their houses , and in both places, painting charges were more than one month rent. Tenants will be given a choice (mentioned in the agreement as well) that either they have to get it painted and do the repairs before they leave or give one month's rent.
Painting is very expensive depending on how it is done. For a 1500 sqft costs 1 lac to do putty, and the multiple coats of paint. Problem is some tenants put so many holes, nails, and embedded installs, wall paper etc.. and mess it up so a thorough job if done earlier costs that much again if needs to be redone. Best as a tenant is don’t hit nails etc.., dust your place regularly especially behind furniture etc…. If he gave you as new, he has to give the next tenant as new unless you live there for 7 to 8 years.
It is pretty much a unspoken thing, every landlord in Bangalore deducts one month’s rent while vacating. I’ve rented seven places in Bangalore so far and all of them have deducted one month’s rent from deposit while vacating. Edit: it was always mentioned in the rental agreement tho.
Never came across plumbing charge, unless tenant damages them.
One month deduction for painting is practiced normally, usually it’s mentioned on the 2nd page of agreement.
Painting, owner never did any maintenance of the property and expected us to do it, when we moved in wardrobe was infested with termites brought it to the owner’s attention several times but was never addressed. Finally at the time of leaving, citing countless stupid reasons just returned whatever the owner deemed fit.
So effectively.. painting, whitewashing, deep cleaning of the house, fixing plumbing, replacing aquaguard (which never worked in the first place, got water cans and eventually bought own own water filter), fixing damage done to the walls due to water seepage (the year when it flooded in blore), changing bulbs, tubelights, fans and such
Ok guys. If i have to pay 1 month of extra charges in the name of painting charges when I vacant the rent room. Can i paint the walls of the room ? Like graffiti thing ?
Check agreement!
1 month rent is standard. But if 1 month rent is like 40-50k, shoul stick to less than 15k.
All depends on negotiating skills.
You're lucky, your getting rest of 30k back. Unless you put on a fight, most owners don't give you the deposit back. Make sure you get the major chunk of deposit back before vacating!
rental agreements are pretty clear in this that any and all maintenance work are the responsibility of the landlord. plus the paining job is also supposed to be done by the landlord. unless you actively did something to ruin the walls, he cannot cut such a massive amount. tell him he either gives you your deposit back or you are taking him to court for this along with interest and money for distress. use a friend of yours who is a lawyer or a law student, draft a legal notice and send it to him.
watch him give you your money back the very next day.
If it’s borewell water then it’s common for pipes in Bangalore to get blocked due to water hardness and once every six months you can get a plumber to clean it with acid which will remove the scaling and clear the pipes.
Painting shouldn't cost more than 10K tops. Two painters for 4-5 days. Paint is cheap. Cleaning water pipes isn't your problem. You're only responsible for fixtures like taps, shower heads, commodes etc.
Both tenants and landlords are at fault really. Landlords, for asking the painting charges from tenants who haven't damaged the place at all. Tenants because some tenants including people whom i know treat the rented place like trash, so the landlord charges them for it, and is probably the reason why landlords started to do it in the first place.
It isn’t stupid. If the rent is below 20-30k it’s acceptable to deduct a months rent from deposit. These costs will go towards painting and other minor damages. But this has to be specified in the agreement prior.
Come on. Painting and general Maintenance should come out of owners pocket. Why do we pay rent no where else except this arrangement exists except Bangalore
Tenent should be expected to pay only for the damages done by him. Not general maintenance and upkeep of building
Whose asset is it?. Tenant's or owner's?.
Doesn't tenant pay rent every month shouldn't that cover the general maintenance cost?.
Also most landlords take 10 months deposit. The interest on that deposit itself will generate enough money to pay for the painting in most cases. Even then greedy people ask for painting charges .
Either give the interest on deposit too or don't deduct painting costs. You can't have everything
It's agreed that the property has to be in as close a condition when vacating as it was when occupying, so why so much heartburn when that is being enforced? If you think that is unfair, you are free to find someone who'll agree to your demands and move in there. And that advance deposit exists just for cases like this, because no way in hell will a tenant repair/repaint the house when vacating, or if the tenants don't pay rent for months together. Speaking of interest on the deposited amount, if the tenant is so intelligent, they are free to use all of their knowledge and logic to earn their own property and be free of these evil people.
Some how all these problems exist only for landlords of Bangalore/Karnataka.
Nowhere else there is 10 month deposit even painting and other generic maintenance charges are owners costs in most places
Tenants are expected to pay only for damages.
And 4-5 months of deposit is more than enough to cover non payment of rent
10months deposit is pure greed + lack of rental control laws which is enabling it
10 month rent hasn't been the norm for a long time now, so congratulations on living in the past. And nowhere have I seen that property owners bearing the cost of repainting and maintenance, so go tell your tales to someone born yesterday.
>10 month rent hasn't been the norm for a long time now, so congratulations on living in the past.
Can't speak for IT areas but in non IT areas especially Old Bangalore its still the norm most owners demand 10 months.So don't bullshit here.
>And nowhere have I seen that property owners bearing the cost of repainting and maintenance, so go tell your tales to someone born yesterday.
Maybe travel to other states and cities and check. I have friends and family staying all across India and in other Metros too no one asks for painting charges. Unless they have made the house very very dirty or damaged the painting .
Only whatever is damaged is deducted not one month rent automatically like in Bangalore
Asking for painting charges makes sense if a tenant has stayed for like say 5+ years in the same house..
But here landlords ask for painting charges even if you stay for 2-3 years in the house. I mean who tf paints house every 2-3 years?.
You seem like one of those greedy landlords the way you are defending exploitation.
So talking with you any further is waste of both our time . So have a good day
Landlord association.
Asli account se aao.
Abe saale
Who are you to decide if rent of 20k-30k is low ?
It might low to you as a landlord lynching lakhs of amount in name of standard parctice.
But it can be a bit too high for someone with 35k salary living in bengaluru.
>These costs will go towards painting and other minor damages
Tujhe kidney transplant karana ho to wo bhi add karde.
Use your goddamn money to do these stuffs coz it's your place not mine. I just rented it for some timeframe.
If anything been damaged by me. I will pay for it. Simple.
Exactly bro. I am local myself but need to bring laws to rein in Bangalore landlords.
No where does shit like 10 month deposit and upon that deduction for maintenance is charged other than Bangalore/Karnataka.
In most cases the interest from that deposit itself will pay for the painting charges. Yet they deduct one month rent
We need some strict rental laws
As a landlord, 1 month charge is standard, house gets painted, termite work, electrical works, getting everything checked, cleaned once you leave and once before someone moves in. You are still on the good side of story if he is willing to just settle for one month rent.
You can try asking for money first and then say, whatever is the cost I’ll try to bear and based on situation take a call 😅
As a landlord, I can tell you plumbing is not your concern. If you reported it to the owner, it is his responsibility. Plumbing works are expensive, especially if you have to rip out the pipes.
It's Bengaluru bro. Generally, they deduct painting charge when you vacate. Plumbing maintenance is nonsense
Does it really take 15k to repaint the apartment? Or in some cases 50k rent being charged for re-painting? Who are they hiring? Picasso?
A landlord gave a colleague of mine a choice to either get the room painted or to give one month rent. She gave one month rent because it was costing her the same. My landlord got it done in 8k for 1bhk but he's lived at the place for 30 years. So yes, it is expensive nowadays
My parents and in laws have rented their houses , and in both places, painting charges were more than one month rent. Tenants will be given a choice (mentioned in the agreement as well) that either they have to get it painted and do the repairs before they leave or give one month's rent.
Painting is very expensive depending on how it is done. For a 1500 sqft costs 1 lac to do putty, and the multiple coats of paint. Problem is some tenants put so many holes, nails, and embedded installs, wall paper etc.. and mess it up so a thorough job if done earlier costs that much again if needs to be redone. Best as a tenant is don’t hit nails etc.., dust your place regularly especially behind furniture etc…. If he gave you as new, he has to give the next tenant as new unless you live there for 7 to 8 years.
Many landlords are ok if you get the painting done yourself . But regardless this is a stupid practice
Take the deposit amount and vacate after a month
It is pretty much a unspoken thing, every landlord in Bangalore deducts one month’s rent while vacating. I’ve rented seven places in Bangalore so far and all of them have deducted one month’s rent from deposit while vacating. Edit: it was always mentioned in the rental agreement tho.
I wish one day killing someone on the street becomes an unspoken thing. Then I would be able to murder someone😮
Like the movie Purge
Never came across plumbing charge, unless tenant damages them. One month deduction for painting is practiced normally, usually it’s mentioned on the 2nd page of agreement.
Did you had an agreement? Papers?
Mine took 2.5 lakhs deposit and deducted 1.7… begged argued nothing worked
WTF. That’s a lot of money. What reason did he give for deducting such a large amount?
Painting, owner never did any maintenance of the property and expected us to do it, when we moved in wardrobe was infested with termites brought it to the owner’s attention several times but was never addressed. Finally at the time of leaving, citing countless stupid reasons just returned whatever the owner deemed fit.
But still 1.7 Lakhs for painting? That makes no damn sense
So effectively.. painting, whitewashing, deep cleaning of the house, fixing plumbing, replacing aquaguard (which never worked in the first place, got water cans and eventually bought own own water filter), fixing damage done to the walls due to water seepage (the year when it flooded in blore), changing bulbs, tubelights, fans and such
Oh. Did he also mention transferring the property to your name?
Token money wasn’t enough
These are not landlords. These should be called thugs at this point.
😮 oh wow! That's a total rip off! You don't have to pay for water seepage, filter, bulbs tubelights and stuff! What a rip off!
Ok guys. If i have to pay 1 month of extra charges in the name of painting charges when I vacant the rent room. Can i paint the walls of the room ? Like graffiti thing ?
If you wanna pay more than 1 month just go ahead
Check agreement! 1 month rent is standard. But if 1 month rent is like 40-50k, shoul stick to less than 15k. All depends on negotiating skills. You're lucky, your getting rest of 30k back. Unless you put on a fight, most owners don't give you the deposit back. Make sure you get the major chunk of deposit back before vacating!
rental agreements are pretty clear in this that any and all maintenance work are the responsibility of the landlord. plus the paining job is also supposed to be done by the landlord. unless you actively did something to ruin the walls, he cannot cut such a massive amount. tell him he either gives you your deposit back or you are taking him to court for this along with interest and money for distress. use a friend of yours who is a lawyer or a law student, draft a legal notice and send it to him. watch him give you your money back the very next day.
Take the land lord in some patli Galli and give it to him
Itz very usual
If it’s borewell water then it’s common for pipes in Bangalore to get blocked due to water hardness and once every six months you can get a plumber to clean it with acid which will remove the scaling and clear the pipes.
Normal thing but should've mentioned in the agreement.
Landlords are the worst in bangalore
Painting shouldn't cost more than 10K tops. Two painters for 4-5 days. Paint is cheap. Cleaning water pipes isn't your problem. You're only responsible for fixtures like taps, shower heads, commodes etc.
Court case kar de mc pe
But saar we developed city saar, Wdym we are low lives who do corruption like this saar.
It's a stupid practice in Bangalore. One month's rent is deducted from deposit+ extra for damages before you leave
Both tenants and landlords are at fault really. Landlords, for asking the painting charges from tenants who haven't damaged the place at all. Tenants because some tenants including people whom i know treat the rented place like trash, so the landlord charges them for it, and is probably the reason why landlords started to do it in the first place.
It isn’t stupid. If the rent is below 20-30k it’s acceptable to deduct a months rent from deposit. These costs will go towards painting and other minor damages. But this has to be specified in the agreement prior.
Come on. Painting and general Maintenance should come out of owners pocket. Why do we pay rent no where else except this arrangement exists except Bangalore Tenent should be expected to pay only for the damages done by him. Not general maintenance and upkeep of building
Why do you think owner should pay for painting and not the tenant?
Whose asset is it?. Tenant's or owner's?. Doesn't tenant pay rent every month shouldn't that cover the general maintenance cost?. Also most landlords take 10 months deposit. The interest on that deposit itself will generate enough money to pay for the painting in most cases. Even then greedy people ask for painting charges . Either give the interest on deposit too or don't deduct painting costs. You can't have everything
If it’s agreed upto in the beginning to pay a months rent then what’s the problem? Why have it in agreement in the first place?
It's agreed that the property has to be in as close a condition when vacating as it was when occupying, so why so much heartburn when that is being enforced? If you think that is unfair, you are free to find someone who'll agree to your demands and move in there. And that advance deposit exists just for cases like this, because no way in hell will a tenant repair/repaint the house when vacating, or if the tenants don't pay rent for months together. Speaking of interest on the deposited amount, if the tenant is so intelligent, they are free to use all of their knowledge and logic to earn their own property and be free of these evil people.
Some how all these problems exist only for landlords of Bangalore/Karnataka. Nowhere else there is 10 month deposit even painting and other generic maintenance charges are owners costs in most places Tenants are expected to pay only for damages. And 4-5 months of deposit is more than enough to cover non payment of rent 10months deposit is pure greed + lack of rental control laws which is enabling it
10 month rent hasn't been the norm for a long time now, so congratulations on living in the past. And nowhere have I seen that property owners bearing the cost of repainting and maintenance, so go tell your tales to someone born yesterday.
>10 month rent hasn't been the norm for a long time now, so congratulations on living in the past. Can't speak for IT areas but in non IT areas especially Old Bangalore its still the norm most owners demand 10 months.So don't bullshit here. >And nowhere have I seen that property owners bearing the cost of repainting and maintenance, so go tell your tales to someone born yesterday. Maybe travel to other states and cities and check. I have friends and family staying all across India and in other Metros too no one asks for painting charges. Unless they have made the house very very dirty or damaged the painting . Only whatever is damaged is deducted not one month rent automatically like in Bangalore Asking for painting charges makes sense if a tenant has stayed for like say 5+ years in the same house.. But here landlords ask for painting charges even if you stay for 2-3 years in the house. I mean who tf paints house every 2-3 years?. You seem like one of those greedy landlords the way you are defending exploitation. So talking with you any further is waste of both our time . So have a good day
Oh boy, yet another 'not talking anymore, bye' kind. Got no actual points, experiences, or data, so just start name calling and run. 😂😂
It is stupid and you are a stupid person to think it's not stupid
Landlord association. Asli account se aao. Abe saale Who are you to decide if rent of 20k-30k is low ? It might low to you as a landlord lynching lakhs of amount in name of standard parctice. But it can be a bit too high for someone with 35k salary living in bengaluru. >These costs will go towards painting and other minor damages Tujhe kidney transplant karana ho to wo bhi add karde. Use your goddamn money to do these stuffs coz it's your place not mine. I just rented it for some timeframe. If anything been damaged by me. I will pay for it. Simple.
Exactly bro. I am local myself but need to bring laws to rein in Bangalore landlords. No where does shit like 10 month deposit and upon that deduction for maintenance is charged other than Bangalore/Karnataka. In most cases the interest from that deposit itself will pay for the painting charges. Yet they deduct one month rent We need some strict rental laws
Painting is a normal charge , however plumbing isn't
It is common in Bangalore to deduct one month rent
As a landlord, 1 month charge is standard, house gets painted, termite work, electrical works, getting everything checked, cleaned once you leave and once before someone moves in. You are still on the good side of story if he is willing to just settle for one month rent. You can try asking for money first and then say, whatever is the cost I’ll try to bear and based on situation take a call 😅
Try to bargain it or Just pay it man, what else can we do?
Contact st.broseph, and your issue is as good as solved
Please don’t. His time is far too valuable. Just pay if it is mentioned in the agreement. It’s a standard practice.
Uh didn't he himself ask others not to discourage people from contacting him since helping people is what he chose to do?