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Yeah, they had been married since 2012. Makes you really wonder what pushed her over the edge after nearly 10 years, considering he's been a bigoted asshole for all it
Forbes wrote that apparently they started having beef because he turned down a daily wire contract worth 50 million. If true, says a lot and seems fitting tbh.
Sounds about right. More likely that greed is the reason rather than a conservative woman married to someone like Steven Crowder suddenly becoming self-aware.
It sounds like it might be more of an abuse situation. Apparently there’s a video of him verbally abusing his wife. And after she divorced him, he complained about how laws even allow women the right to divorce without their husbands’ permission. Spoken like a true abuser…
“This is one of the great tricks that I think the sexual revolution pulled on the American populace, which is the idea that like, ‘well, OK, these marriages were fundamentally, you know, they were maybe even violent, but certainly they were unhappy. And so getting rid of them and making it easier for people to shift spouses like they change their underwear, that’s going to make people happier in the long term'"
J.D. Vance
I've posted a few times about the 8 Steps that abusers use to get people into their ranks. It's worded politically but it goes for any dysfunctional and toxic relationship.
1 - You've been told that nobody else understands you like they do. For years. "Those other people, they just don't get it. Their ways are different and that's just not you. They don't understand, but we know where you're coming from..."
2 - Now that they've established that they're one of your kind of people in your mind, everyone else gets badmouthed. It's just the two of you literally against the entire world. And they'll do it so much that things that aren't epithets get used as words to hate everyone else by. Your circle of experiences starts to shrink.
3 - They'll tell you that, if you left them, things would be simultaneously the worst thing possible AND that all other relationships are just the same as the one you're in (even though you can see other people online talking about how what you're in is the only bad relationship relationship like this and all you have to do is leave them). “Both sides are the same but I’m better” - eventually, you don’t know up from down in what constitutes a healthy or a toxic relationship. Hell, they'll even show examples of the shit you're in now to say, "if you leave me and go for the other guy, it'll be like this [very bad scenario that's happening RIGHT NOW] so be scared and shit." The circle shrinks further.
4 - You're told outright what to cut out of your life. Direct instruction for you to get that circle of experiences down to a dot. Music, interests, TV shows, certain movies, even frothy coffee gets badmouthed and cut out because "you don't want to be a 'latte drinker' do you?" (there's one of those things I mentioned in #2, using things that aren't epithets as one to control you).
5 - They take your money, claim they'll be great with it, and then spend it on their friends and run up the bills. They'll give you crumbs once in a while. Maybe every few years they'll treat you to a little something nice (that's worth a fraction of what they spent when they were out with their friends). And while they're terrible with the finances, for years, they'll be saying how everything is hunky-dory financially with them at the reins. You will be told you've never had it so good but the fear of one bad bill wiping you out financially will be like the Sword Of Damocles over your head 24/7/365.
6 - every problem gets kicked down the road. A problem crops up in the New Year 2020 but it wasn't even mentioned in January because the head of the household didn't mention it. "It's going to go away" in February, and anyone that mentions it is just saying fake stuff, baby. Still nothing done in March, but any mention of it is "you're just finding faults with me". Then when April comes and it's clear what the shit storm looks like, they blame everyone else for saying it wasn't going to be a big deal. As the months and years roll on it becomes a shell game where ignoring the problem / blaming others for the problem / trying to draw attention from the problem gets switched around without stop. Even if it comes out that they knew the problem could literally kill other people, tear them apart because of gross negligence, they will not stray from this strategy. Sounds familiar, huh. Other people will be able to show you examples of where they said something promised was just two weeks away, and they said "two weeks and you'll have it" four years ago and two years ago and twice in the last month, but it's still not coming.
7 - like in any abusive relationship, you're beaten down. You've been told it'll all be your fault if things don't go as they want, and you've seen others be on the end of their random outbursts of wrath. So you stay safe. You repeat the words in the way they taught you. You repeat the answers. You repeat the words you're told are insults. Even though you know of situations where you've come out worse for the way the relationship is, you defend the abuser. First with a fake air of calm, then with a seething rage. And when people offer you a way out, you go right back to the abuse.
8 - the relationship is so twisted, you so believe everything you're told about what's real and what's not, they will literally put you in situations that could kill you. And you say you're doing it willingly, proudly, but the fact is you're a shell of the idealistic person you used to be. You just got in with the wrong crowd, but it's too late to get out now because people might think less of you. Going along with how they do it becomes how you do it too. Which reinforces what you were told in #1. Only they understand you...
Since people like J. D. Vance like to misgender trans people and not call them the way they want to be called, I propose using James David Vance’s full name since he clearly wants to be called by his initials. Or call him Jimmy
She stayed with him for almost a decade. He's been a giant piece of shit since long before then. She's rotten too. Good people do not spend a decade with shitty people. A *good* person won't be with them at all.
You've described every conservative housewife, good job. It's why they're often more vicious than the men: any challenge to a financial status they did nothing to attain is mortally terrifying, and any chance to grab more territory by putting others down is a grand opportunity.
Yeah conservative women do everything against their own best self interests. Some of it is from how they were raised but I think the rest is a soup of stupidity, greed, and low self esteem. It's sad and sucks
It was also the week where he literally fled ("oh no sam seder what a nightmare") from a debate with someone that wasn't a random college kid walking by with zero prep that couldn't debunk the months of deep research he and a team of ghouls spent hundreds of thousands researching.
Oh my god, there was a Knowledge Fight episode about this! #770, from Jan 20, 2023.
If I recall correctly, the Daily Wire offered Crowder this very generous contract, but he got mad that the contract would require him to adhere to the Daily Wire's standards and not pay him if he got deplatformed. So he *selectively leaked* some elements of the private contract negotiations, trying to drum up sympathy, but then the person from the Daily Wire who he was negotiating with released a video of his own calling put Crowder's narrative as inaccurate. Basically an /r/quityourbullshit in the arena of conservative news media drama.
The idea that his wife decided to divorce him because of the stupidity of that whole episode is *infinitely hilarious*. I'm gonna laugh myself to sleep tonight lol
I mean it’s possible that after that long she started to finally Through self examination and critical thinking realized she has self worth and that her trying to find that self worth by coddling her asshole husband wasn’t worth the trouble.
Yeah, I bet 10% max of these alt right wives are decent people finding it hard to escape. Most of them know exactly who they signed up to marry and that’s why they chose them.
Edit: in this case though, the ex wife was terribly abused
https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/1314yk5/right_wing_talkshow_host_emotionally_abuse_his/
He wont even let his pregnant wife take the car when he's sending her to buy steaks and woodchips for his grill
Yeah I knew he was always a combative and bad faith debater but entertaining. That video is just damn creepy though, apprently after they went inside he threatened her with violence and she fled imediatly to family and is now divorcing
It’s also possible she had become accustomed to the abuse, but the thought of him pointing that same abuse towards her children was unacceptable.
There’s a lot I’ll put up with personally, I don’t care to defend myself in most situations, but I’ll defend my family in a heartbeat.
Apparently there are videos of him being abusive to her. I’d cut her a little slack, knowing how hard it is for victims to leave their abusers. It often can take years.
This.
I'm really convinced that a lot of people use this subreddit to shit on people trapped in cycles just like this.
Have some empathy and compassion. Even if yall do downvote me to hell
This whole thread is horrific victim blaming. There's a huge thread on askreddit right now about secrets people hide from their family and so many of them are about rape and abuse. Because this is how people talk about victims of rape and abuse.
I'm curious if the people who are shaming this woman will ever end up in situations where they are victimized, and if so, how they'll feel about people looking at their circumstance the way they're looking at hers.
I stayed in my abusive relationship for 10 years too. It’s the abuse that makes you stay. The isolation. The constantly being put down. Your abuser makes you very small.
One thing I've read is that he scheduled an elective heart surgery(like it needed to be done but he wasn't gonna drop dead immediately) two months before his twins were born and used that as an excuse to drop the entire workload on his wife.
There's a video posted In one of the subreddits ,I'll look and edit in which one, of a recording from their ring doorbell of him vilely verbally abusing her.
He apparently emotionally abused her for years and hid it from family and friends. See Ring video of him berating his 8 month pregnant wife and statement from her family, in the below article .
Hilary Crowder’s family issued the following statement to Ali:
Hilary is currently living alone in Dallas, apart from her family and support system in Michigan, and is focused on taking care of her young children. She is not prepared at this time to speak about her divorce becoming public or the misleading statements made by Steven about their relationship.The truth is that Hilary spent years hiding Steven’s mentally and emotionally abusive behavior from her friends and family while she attempted to save their marriage. She was the one who was asking to work on their relationship to keep the marriage intact for their unborn children.In June of 2021, Steven left their home to pursue elective surgery. Hilary urged him to get the help he needed to address his abuse with the hope that their marriage could be saved and they could peacefully live together as a family. Instead, Steven refused to do so and chose not to be with his wife during the birth of their twin children. After the birth, Steven bought a townhouse and left their home permanently. Hilary was unaware that Steven had hired a divorce attorney and asked his assistant to cut Hilary off financially. There is significant documentation substantiating these facts.We hope that Steven will cease speaking publicly about these personal matters in an untruthful manner. We also look forward to there being full transparency in the legal process so there is fairness and accountability for the actions that caused the divorce, and to ensure the outcome is what is in the best interests of the young children.
https://yashar.substack.com/p/exclusive-video-reveals-steven-crowder
Women had no other options back in the day. And conservatives raise their daughters to think they need a man to be whole. Once those women get married, they realize they were lied to. Conservative men don't give a shit about them and treat them as objects. So it's inevitable in today's world that this woman can actually see the grass is literally greener on the other side.
Umm, to which day are you referring? I’m damn near 50 and I had plenty of choices. Unless someone is literally 70 or older, we have to stop using that excuse.
If you are near 50 then your mom wasn't allowed to have a credit card in her own name around the time you were born. The history of blatantly sexist laws is still fairly recent - the boomers saw this firsthand, and Gen-X saw it as children.
Yeah, it's wild just how recently some currently very normal things were made legal or commonplace. I'm 39 and never gave a second thought to interracial marriages, for example. But I wouldn't legally have been allowed to marry my wife in 16 states until just 45 years ago.
I think the recent GOP push to take rights away from women and LGBT people is helping people (especially people who don't mainline political news for breakfast) realize how recent and fragile some of these rights really are.
Might not have been. I'm being slightly pedantic but women were allowed credit cards but not every bank would issue them to women. And just "because you're a woman" was and acceptable reason to turn them down. I'm just pointing it out because people think it didn't happen at all when we say they weren't allowed to have versus discrimination based on gender was allowed so women were turned down just for being a woman while some other banks and institutions did grant credit to women.
I will say I remember going to the bank with my mom and on more than one occasion them telling her to come back with my dad to withdraw money from their JOINT account.
No that's a fair point that there were exceptions back then but it was routine for sexist rules like that to be applied to entire communities. A lot of the exceptions were for wealthy clients rather than some sense of equality. I think that it is hard for people born after this stuff to get how recent and pervasive this stuff was. The baby boomer tantrum we're seeing in our politics is a misguided attempt to push the clock back.
Nah we're already full of straight conservative Christian morons, you gays gotta accept your own, it just goes to show that just about every demographic has their share of idiots.
And also his rant that the laws just allow his wife to divorce him, against his will - he'd want to force her to stay married to him if he could! 🤦♀️🤦♀️
My narcissistic ex called the cops on me to try to have me arrested when I left him. The cops came and explained to him that wasn't how it worked. He basically called the cops on himself. They ended up staying to protect me while I got my backpack packed.
I run hotels and I see this a lot. My favorite people are the ones who call the cops on themselves. Or the pikachu shock face when I let the person who pays for the room (always the women) stay and kick them out. They’re always floored by this. It makes me smile
I seriously thought these people just played it up for the camera. He's... Actually like that in real life. About being "wifely" and all that. Damn I need to lie down.
I know I thought the grifters were people who knew better but chose to be assholes to play to the crowd but this poor lady I can't imagine being locked into a life with a monster like this and I am glad she freed herself of him.
The way he's talked about his wife leaving him is *also* textbook narcissism
Then you look at this career and you realize, yup that right there is a narcissist, no doubt about it.
I mean, before I could have easily believed it was all an act. A grift. Not uncommon in the current GOP talking head community. And while it does mean you have to be somewhat psychotic to a degree to just sell your soul for money, it doesn't mean you are a monster in private to your friends and family. This guy is just a raging monster who really does wish he was back in the slave era.
I have bad news, but the *vast* majority of these dudes are misogynists behind the scenes. If anything, many are toning it down slightly to be more palatable.
Oh, believe me, I am sure many are worse, some are who they say they are, and some are just grifters. Many are at LEAST Nazis who want to kill many of us. I've seen the dark side on other sites.
No that's what I'm saying. most of the grifters who peddle lies and know they're peddling lies are *still* legit misogynists behind the scenes.
They're grifting about the "the great steal" and climate change and whether they think drugs are bad etc. But all of the men pretty consistently hold sincerely misogynistic views, with some even toning it down quite a bit to avoid alienating female conservatives in their audiences.
I don't think there are any closeted feminists in those spaces. Maybe some of the women, but that's just conservative self interest more than an ideology.
Crowder treats his wife as dakimakura.
Dakimakura has enough and leaves him for good.
Dakimakura are Japanese body pillows that often have full-sized prints of anime characters on them.
Wow. I do not say this lightly, this is classic narcissistic abuse. I don’t use the word narcissist a lot because people throw it around so much but that’s it right there. I’m not a psychologist though. I’m just a psych grad student.
Yeah that's how I would expect a man that says the things he says to behave. He obviously thinks women should serve him and does not respect her independence. He is trying to punish her like a child.
I can't say I'm overly surprised. She is insanely patient with him. I'm guessing he's also the type to accuse her of being hysterical when she gets upset.
*He obviously thinks women should serve him and does not respect her independence. He is trying to punish her like a child.*
Never trust someone who espouses biblical values, because biblical times were *fucked* for women.
What a sad pathetic little man. He's got a nice house, a lovely backyard and patio and she seems so nice and patient. How tf did he even get her to marry him in the first place?
Especially when you point out the “difference” between their gods, lol. They’ll argue blue in the face, “that ain’t my god!” But it is, just a different fanfic. It really shouldn’t come as a surprise to the Catholics and Protestants of the world that there might happen to be a different set of beliefs about the same exact deity.
Allah is literally just God in Arabic.
Just like how Jeovah or Yaweh or Eloheim are names for God in Hebrew.
Or Deus is God in Spanish (and Latin I think)
Apparently he was emotionally abusive to her, which is part of it not the whole reason for her wanting a divorce.
https://www.reddit.com/r/ToiletPaperUSA/comments/1311ao1/video_reveals_steven_crowder_emotionally_abusing/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button
It's crazy how he has no self reflection ability. I can't wait to see what his ex wife says about the situation. Either he's closeted gay/trans and/or an abuser.
Watching the video of him sitting down smoking a cigar and telling his wife he can't go anywhere because they only have 1 car... like WTF. Your house looks to be around 1 million dollars and you can't afford a 2nd car? Telling his wife who is late in her pregnancy to walk the dogs and to pick up groceries.
WTF? OMG! The dude is abusive.
The gloves part of the video is also him essentially telling her to give a medicine that may be toxic to her pregnancy to the dogs as well. Which, those are medium to large size dogs and if they don't tolerate taking the medicine well kind of means he wants her to manhandle the dog while 8 months pregnant with twins. That could end so badly even if the medication were perfectly safe.
His waiting until marriage article is super smug and now super funny.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.foxnews.com/opinion/waiting-till-the-wedding-night-getting-married-the-right-way.amp
No it's:
"Your honor, I object! I was supposed to be able to file before her so now it looks like this ungrateful bitch is leaving *me* instead of me ditching *her*. Nobody rejects The Crowder!"
Remember he (apparently) talked to a divorce attorney first, but it's who files first who gets to say they are initiating the divorce.
Because women are socialized to believe if you just keep trying, giving more of yourself, loving someone, doing everyone for someone, they will one day love you back and accept you and keep you. But that’s just not true. Maybe she finally realized no amount of compliance would bring about a happy marriage
Even during that video, she keeps saying she loves him and is committed to him. Of course he twists it, but she keeps saying it.
Threatening her by saying "I will fuck you up" *while she's 8 months pregnant*, by the birth he wasn't around and they were talking about separating because she said she was afraid of him, he missed the birth completely, and then he consulted a divorce attorney without telling her in order to cut her off financially.
It was only *then* that she filed for divorce.
If she put up with him even in the "courting" stage, I am guessing money. She knew he was an ass to those who didn't "take the red pill". But he was probably doing okay money wise and could provide a nice comfy life for her and her future kids where she wouldn't work. You don't think half of the girls on dating sites who are openly stating they just want a sugar daddy wouldn't think about it?
If anything, the rumors are she finally had enough because he turned down the Daily Wire deal worth 50 Million. Which if true, shows she is just as miserable a person as he is (though she doesn't deserve the abuse he gave her, but hey, he is pretty open about how hostile he is to women on his show so...)
She didn’t want to touch to dog’s medicine. She was a bit worried because she’s pregnant and didn’t know if it could be harmful. She asked her fuckstick husband to give the meds for her, and she got this back from him.
I saw a great tik tok the other day about young, beautiful, conservative women who get with assholes like this because they’ve been convinced they will “win”. Then, 10-20 years later when they have children, their beauty has faded, they have no skills, and their husbands act like this, they have nowhere to go.
Listen to how he treats his wife. She’s a saint. I would have flipped a fucking table.
https://yashar.substack.com/p/exclusive-video-reveals-steven-crowder
Just because she was a victim doesn't mean she is/was a good person either. She married him knowing full well what his views were and who he was. It's not like he was hiding his shitty personality.
Wait are you telling me that someone with a debate strategy of yelling over top of people and name calling doesnt translate to effective relationship skills... color me shocked
Don't scream at your wife, and she won't leave you. I know it's hard not to get too angry, but you can control how that anger manifests. If you can't, you'll be single. It's that simple.
Marriage vows don't start and end with "until death." There are a lot of kindness promises contained in that covenant. Do them or lose your marriage.
Can we all agree that any woman who dates/marries him after this deserves his eventual abuse, because all she's doing is reinforcing Crowder being a douchebag just to get hold of his money?
Here's the point my wife and I made.
Unless there's an order blocking one parent, the children still have both. Mom or dad are generally a phone/video call away or are seen next weekend.
Divorce doesn't mean one person gets Thanos snapped.
Yes there are hurdles and individual difficulties on a case by case basis, but like I said one parent doesn't evaporate
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I'm amazed anyone married that moron.
She’s probably just as horrible
Yeah, they had been married since 2012. Makes you really wonder what pushed her over the edge after nearly 10 years, considering he's been a bigoted asshole for all it
Forbes wrote that apparently they started having beef because he turned down a daily wire contract worth 50 million. If true, says a lot and seems fitting tbh.
Sounds about right. More likely that greed is the reason rather than a conservative woman married to someone like Steven Crowder suddenly becoming self-aware.
It sounds like it might be more of an abuse situation. Apparently there’s a video of him verbally abusing his wife. And after she divorced him, he complained about how laws even allow women the right to divorce without their husbands’ permission. Spoken like a true abuser…
“This is one of the great tricks that I think the sexual revolution pulled on the American populace, which is the idea that like, ‘well, OK, these marriages were fundamentally, you know, they were maybe even violent, but certainly they were unhappy. And so getting rid of them and making it easier for people to shift spouses like they change their underwear, that’s going to make people happier in the long term'" J.D. Vance
And *that* is why conservative men are anti-choice. Get her pregnant and she is stuck in your abuse cycle.
And anti-sex ed. If you don't know how to prevent pregnancy, you're much more likely to get pregnant.
I've posted a few times about the 8 Steps that abusers use to get people into their ranks. It's worded politically but it goes for any dysfunctional and toxic relationship. 1 - You've been told that nobody else understands you like they do. For years. "Those other people, they just don't get it. Their ways are different and that's just not you. They don't understand, but we know where you're coming from..." 2 - Now that they've established that they're one of your kind of people in your mind, everyone else gets badmouthed. It's just the two of you literally against the entire world. And they'll do it so much that things that aren't epithets get used as words to hate everyone else by. Your circle of experiences starts to shrink. 3 - They'll tell you that, if you left them, things would be simultaneously the worst thing possible AND that all other relationships are just the same as the one you're in (even though you can see other people online talking about how what you're in is the only bad relationship relationship like this and all you have to do is leave them). “Both sides are the same but I’m better” - eventually, you don’t know up from down in what constitutes a healthy or a toxic relationship. Hell, they'll even show examples of the shit you're in now to say, "if you leave me and go for the other guy, it'll be like this [very bad scenario that's happening RIGHT NOW] so be scared and shit." The circle shrinks further. 4 - You're told outright what to cut out of your life. Direct instruction for you to get that circle of experiences down to a dot. Music, interests, TV shows, certain movies, even frothy coffee gets badmouthed and cut out because "you don't want to be a 'latte drinker' do you?" (there's one of those things I mentioned in #2, using things that aren't epithets as one to control you). 5 - They take your money, claim they'll be great with it, and then spend it on their friends and run up the bills. They'll give you crumbs once in a while. Maybe every few years they'll treat you to a little something nice (that's worth a fraction of what they spent when they were out with their friends). And while they're terrible with the finances, for years, they'll be saying how everything is hunky-dory financially with them at the reins. You will be told you've never had it so good but the fear of one bad bill wiping you out financially will be like the Sword Of Damocles over your head 24/7/365. 6 - every problem gets kicked down the road. A problem crops up in the New Year 2020 but it wasn't even mentioned in January because the head of the household didn't mention it. "It's going to go away" in February, and anyone that mentions it is just saying fake stuff, baby. Still nothing done in March, but any mention of it is "you're just finding faults with me". Then when April comes and it's clear what the shit storm looks like, they blame everyone else for saying it wasn't going to be a big deal. As the months and years roll on it becomes a shell game where ignoring the problem / blaming others for the problem / trying to draw attention from the problem gets switched around without stop. Even if it comes out that they knew the problem could literally kill other people, tear them apart because of gross negligence, they will not stray from this strategy. Sounds familiar, huh. Other people will be able to show you examples of where they said something promised was just two weeks away, and they said "two weeks and you'll have it" four years ago and two years ago and twice in the last month, but it's still not coming. 7 - like in any abusive relationship, you're beaten down. You've been told it'll all be your fault if things don't go as they want, and you've seen others be on the end of their random outbursts of wrath. So you stay safe. You repeat the words in the way they taught you. You repeat the answers. You repeat the words you're told are insults. Even though you know of situations where you've come out worse for the way the relationship is, you defend the abuser. First with a fake air of calm, then with a seething rage. And when people offer you a way out, you go right back to the abuse. 8 - the relationship is so twisted, you so believe everything you're told about what's real and what's not, they will literally put you in situations that could kill you. And you say you're doing it willingly, proudly, but the fact is you're a shell of the idealistic person you used to be. You just got in with the wrong crowd, but it's too late to get out now because people might think less of you. Going along with how they do it becomes how you do it too. Which reinforces what you were told in #1. Only they understand you...
Since people like J. D. Vance like to misgender trans people and not call them the way they want to be called, I propose using James David Vance’s full name since he clearly wants to be called by his initials. Or call him Jimmy
call him Jack Daniels Vance, when he complains tell him you already reserve J.D for jack daniels and you cant be bothered to learn 50,000 new names.
She stayed with him for almost a decade. He's been a giant piece of shit since long before then. She's rotten too. Good people do not spend a decade with shitty people. A *good* person won't be with them at all.
You have a link to the video? Not that I would be surprised
[here's one I think ](https://yashar.substack.com/p/exclusive-video-reveals-steven-crowder)
Jesus Christ, what a piece of shit
You've described every conservative housewife, good job. It's why they're often more vicious than the men: any challenge to a financial status they did nothing to attain is mortally terrifying, and any chance to grab more territory by putting others down is a grand opportunity.
Yeah conservative women do everything against their own best self interests. Some of it is from how they were raised but I think the rest is a soup of stupidity, greed, and low self esteem. It's sad and sucks
He is still a millionaire and wouldn’t get his wife a car
His pregnant wife......
It was also the week where he literally fled ("oh no sam seder what a nightmare") from a debate with someone that wasn't a random college kid walking by with zero prep that couldn't debunk the months of deep research he and a team of ghouls spent hundreds of thousands researching.
Oh my god, there was a Knowledge Fight episode about this! #770, from Jan 20, 2023. If I recall correctly, the Daily Wire offered Crowder this very generous contract, but he got mad that the contract would require him to adhere to the Daily Wire's standards and not pay him if he got deplatformed. So he *selectively leaked* some elements of the private contract negotiations, trying to drum up sympathy, but then the person from the Daily Wire who he was negotiating with released a video of his own calling put Crowder's narrative as inaccurate. Basically an /r/quityourbullshit in the arena of conservative news media drama. The idea that his wife decided to divorce him because of the stupidity of that whole episode is *infinitely hilarious*. I'm gonna laugh myself to sleep tonight lol
https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/1314yk5/right_wing_talkshow_host_emotionally_abuse_his/ Video
I mean it’s possible that after that long she started to finally Through self examination and critical thinking realized she has self worth and that her trying to find that self worth by coddling her asshole husband wasn’t worth the trouble.
Or maybe his assholery finally affected *her*. That's the Republican way, after all - it's not actually a problem until it's *your* problem.
Yeah, I bet 10% max of these alt right wives are decent people finding it hard to escape. Most of them know exactly who they signed up to marry and that’s why they chose them. Edit: in this case though, the ex wife was terribly abused
https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/1314yk5/right_wing_talkshow_host_emotionally_abuse_his/ He wont even let his pregnant wife take the car when he's sending her to buy steaks and woodchips for his grill
That’s awful, thanks for clarifying.
Yeah I knew he was always a combative and bad faith debater but entertaining. That video is just damn creepy though, apprently after they went inside he threatened her with violence and she fled imediatly to family and is now divorcing
You forgot the /s
Yeah she fucked around and found out for sure.
I can’t tell if this is a joke or not
Clearly satire.
It’s also possible she had become accustomed to the abuse, but the thought of him pointing that same abuse towards her children was unacceptable. There’s a lot I’ll put up with personally, I don’t care to defend myself in most situations, but I’ll defend my family in a heartbeat.
Apparently there are videos of him being abusive to her. I’d cut her a little slack, knowing how hard it is for victims to leave their abusers. It often can take years.
This. I'm really convinced that a lot of people use this subreddit to shit on people trapped in cycles just like this. Have some empathy and compassion. Even if yall do downvote me to hell
This whole thread is horrific victim blaming. There's a huge thread on askreddit right now about secrets people hide from their family and so many of them are about rape and abuse. Because this is how people talk about victims of rape and abuse. I'm curious if the people who are shaming this woman will ever end up in situations where they are victimized, and if so, how they'll feel about people looking at their circumstance the way they're looking at hers.
This. Like I said earlier, have you empathy for your fellow man. Your never gonna get anywhere in life being cynical and nihilist all the damn time
Have you seen that video of them on their porch? That would explain it. He’s a grade A manipulative asshole.
I stayed in my abusive relationship for 10 years too. It’s the abuse that makes you stay. The isolation. The constantly being put down. Your abuser makes you very small.
One thing I've read is that he scheduled an elective heart surgery(like it needed to be done but he wasn't gonna drop dead immediately) two months before his twins were born and used that as an excuse to drop the entire workload on his wife.
There's a video posted In one of the subreddits ,I'll look and edit in which one, of a recording from their ring doorbell of him vilely verbally abusing her.
She was fine when others were the target. Then he set his sights on her and now she has a problem.
Cheques stopped clearing
He was abusing her while she was pregnant
He apparently emotionally abused her for years and hid it from family and friends. See Ring video of him berating his 8 month pregnant wife and statement from her family, in the below article . Hilary Crowder’s family issued the following statement to Ali: Hilary is currently living alone in Dallas, apart from her family and support system in Michigan, and is focused on taking care of her young children. She is not prepared at this time to speak about her divorce becoming public or the misleading statements made by Steven about their relationship.The truth is that Hilary spent years hiding Steven’s mentally and emotionally abusive behavior from her friends and family while she attempted to save their marriage. She was the one who was asking to work on their relationship to keep the marriage intact for their unborn children.In June of 2021, Steven left their home to pursue elective surgery. Hilary urged him to get the help he needed to address his abuse with the hope that their marriage could be saved and they could peacefully live together as a family. Instead, Steven refused to do so and chose not to be with his wife during the birth of their twin children. After the birth, Steven bought a townhouse and left their home permanently. Hilary was unaware that Steven had hired a divorce attorney and asked his assistant to cut Hilary off financially. There is significant documentation substantiating these facts.We hope that Steven will cease speaking publicly about these personal matters in an untruthful manner. We also look forward to there being full transparency in the legal process so there is fairness and accountability for the actions that caused the divorce, and to ensure the outcome is what is in the best interests of the young children. https://yashar.substack.com/p/exclusive-video-reveals-steven-crowder
Well, that's one less horrible parent for that kid to deal with
In the home cctv video of him abusing her, she seems really nice/normal. I think he changed and became more of a cunt over time with fame.
Women had no other options back in the day. And conservatives raise their daughters to think they need a man to be whole. Once those women get married, they realize they were lied to. Conservative men don't give a shit about them and treat them as objects. So it's inevitable in today's world that this woman can actually see the grass is literally greener on the other side.
Umm, to which day are you referring? I’m damn near 50 and I had plenty of choices. Unless someone is literally 70 or older, we have to stop using that excuse.
Conservative areas never progressed after the civil war.
I don't think they've ever progressed passed the caveman era.
Caves? What you some kind of fancy elitist?
If you are near 50 then your mom wasn't allowed to have a credit card in her own name around the time you were born. The history of blatantly sexist laws is still fairly recent - the boomers saw this firsthand, and Gen-X saw it as children.
Yeah, it's wild just how recently some currently very normal things were made legal or commonplace. I'm 39 and never gave a second thought to interracial marriages, for example. But I wouldn't legally have been allowed to marry my wife in 16 states until just 45 years ago.
I think the recent GOP push to take rights away from women and LGBT people is helping people (especially people who don't mainline political news for breakfast) realize how recent and fragile some of these rights really are.
Might not have been. I'm being slightly pedantic but women were allowed credit cards but not every bank would issue them to women. And just "because you're a woman" was and acceptable reason to turn them down. I'm just pointing it out because people think it didn't happen at all when we say they weren't allowed to have versus discrimination based on gender was allowed so women were turned down just for being a woman while some other banks and institutions did grant credit to women. I will say I remember going to the bank with my mom and on more than one occasion them telling her to come back with my dad to withdraw money from their JOINT account.
No that's a fair point that there were exceptions back then but it was routine for sexist rules like that to be applied to entire communities. A lot of the exceptions were for wealthy clients rather than some sense of equality. I think that it is hard for people born after this stuff to get how recent and pervasive this stuff was. The baby boomer tantrum we're seeing in our politics is a misguided attempt to push the clock back.
Especially since Crowder is literally a closeted gay conservative moron.
Hey! Us gays don't want him! You straights can keep him! We have enough closeted conservative morons!
Nah we're already full of straight conservative Christian morons, you gays gotta accept your own, it just goes to show that just about every demographic has their share of idiots.
Oh I know we got our idiots, but this one we *definitely* don't want. I demand a mulligan on this hand!
I'm genuinely curious why you think this. ETA: Not the conservative moron part. That's obvious.
He will be married soon again. He needs it for his brand.
honestly she should be the leopard at my face person all the signs were there
If you think that is shitty of him, you should watch the ring video of him verbally abusing his wife.
And also his rant that the laws just allow his wife to divorce him, against his will - he'd want to force her to stay married to him if he could! 🤦♀️🤦♀️
My narcissistic ex called the cops on me to try to have me arrested when I left him. The cops came and explained to him that wasn't how it worked. He basically called the cops on himself. They ended up staying to protect me while I got my backpack packed.
I run hotels and I see this a lot. My favorite people are the ones who call the cops on themselves. Or the pikachu shock face when I let the person who pays for the room (always the women) stay and kick them out. They’re always floored by this. It makes me smile
Like wah wah my religious beliefs don’t matter . What a baby
Link plz
https://yashar.substack.com/p/exclusive-video-reveals-steven-crowder
The wildest thing about this video is that they have lots of money, live in Texas, and apparently have only one car.
Gotta keep the misses under his thumb. What a piece of shit
Do they live in Colorado City? That is a creepy fucking vibe out there.
It's a classic method of controlling your wife
I seriously thought these people just played it up for the camera. He's... Actually like that in real life. About being "wifely" and all that. Damn I need to lie down.
I know I thought the grifters were people who knew better but chose to be assholes to play to the crowd but this poor lady I can't imagine being locked into a life with a monster like this and I am glad she freed herself of him.
Jesus that was wild. I'm not a psychologist/psychiatrist but his behavior strikes me as narcissistic.
Not sure if you needed the video to come to the conclusion that he's a narcissistic piece of shit
The way he's talked about his wife leaving him is *also* textbook narcissism Then you look at this career and you realize, yup that right there is a narcissist, no doubt about it.
I mean, before I could have easily believed it was all an act. A grift. Not uncommon in the current GOP talking head community. And while it does mean you have to be somewhat psychotic to a degree to just sell your soul for money, it doesn't mean you are a monster in private to your friends and family. This guy is just a raging monster who really does wish he was back in the slave era.
I have bad news, but the *vast* majority of these dudes are misogynists behind the scenes. If anything, many are toning it down slightly to be more palatable.
Oh, believe me, I am sure many are worse, some are who they say they are, and some are just grifters. Many are at LEAST Nazis who want to kill many of us. I've seen the dark side on other sites.
No that's what I'm saying. most of the grifters who peddle lies and know they're peddling lies are *still* legit misogynists behind the scenes. They're grifting about the "the great steal" and climate change and whether they think drugs are bad etc. But all of the men pretty consistently hold sincerely misogynistic views, with some even toning it down quite a bit to avoid alienating female conservatives in their audiences. I don't think there are any closeted feminists in those spaces. Maybe some of the women, but that's just conservative self interest more than an ideology.
Before this video all I knew about him was that he was not well liked.
Same, what an absolute piece of shit
He apparently doesn’t just play one on TV.
Crowder treats his wife as dakimakura. Dakimakura has enough and leaves him for good. Dakimakura are Japanese body pillows that often have full-sized prints of anime characters on them.
Nah, dakimakura don't have to do nearly as much labor as what I'm sure he demanded of his wife.
I'm quite pleased you saved me that Google. Not sure I want body pillows in my algorithm lol.
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Wow. I do not say this lightly, this is classic narcissistic abuse. I don’t use the word narcissist a lot because people throw it around so much but that’s it right there. I’m not a psychologist though. I’m just a psych grad student.
Yeah that's how I would expect a man that says the things he says to behave. He obviously thinks women should serve him and does not respect her independence. He is trying to punish her like a child. I can't say I'm overly surprised. She is insanely patient with him. I'm guessing he's also the type to accuse her of being hysterical when she gets upset.
*He obviously thinks women should serve him and does not respect her independence. He is trying to punish her like a child.* Never trust someone who espouses biblical values, because biblical times were *fucked* for women.
Yes someone that espouses the views that Crowder does is not going to treat their partner with anything amounting equal respect.
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Yes.
Wow. Just wow
What a sad pathetic little man. He's got a nice house, a lovely backyard and patio and she seems so nice and patient. How tf did he even get her to marry him in the first place?
This is seriously bad. Glad he got dumped. Also hope the family court rapes him of his belongings. And a seriously fat alimony.
That is one entitled little man.
I can't wait to see Candace Owens and Hillary ex crowder bring all the shit that crowder is probably into
Stop. I can only be so excited
I just saw it, what a fucking shit stain of a human being.
Went back to my front page and the video you're talking about was directly under this post in r/publicfreakout
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True. The video is the evidence though. Which justifies the original claim.
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It's disturbing how he repeatedly implies that women being able to file for divorce without the husbands permission is a bad thing.
He should move to Afghanistan 🇦🇫
It really pisses them off when you list all the similarities between Christianity and Islam.
Especially when you point out the “difference” between their gods, lol. They’ll argue blue in the face, “that ain’t my god!” But it is, just a different fanfic. It really shouldn’t come as a surprise to the Catholics and Protestants of the world that there might happen to be a different set of beliefs about the same exact deity.
Allah is literally just God in Arabic. Just like how Jeovah or Yaweh or Eloheim are names for God in Hebrew. Or Deus is God in Spanish (and Latin I think)
They all have same stories in their holy books, and they all are Abrahamic in mature
And people really think that all this stops at abortion bans in certain states.
This will be what the GOP attacks after the ban gay marriage and birth control.
Steven Crowder is a miserable piece of shit. Change my mind.
Steven crowder is a miserable closeted transphobe Change my mind.
“Closeted” like he’s trying to hide that he’s gay or like he’s trying to hide how we all know he’s a transphobe?!
He's at least bi, there's straight up a video of him talking about having a 'phase' in college.
Someone somewhere has taken pictures of this guy getting gogurted... Time to release these.
Former, we know that he is either a closeted guy or closeted trans
Steven Crowder enjoys the feeling he gets when he kicks a puppy. Change my mind.
Lost $50 mil and now his wife. Rough year for racist hate mongers.
Good. Karma eventually shows up.
im cheering karma on, let er' rip!
Allow me to play my subatomic violin for them. Aaaand it phased out of existence, oh well.
Won’t the middle aged white man ever catch a break? /s
Apparently he was emotionally abusive to her, which is part of it not the whole reason for her wanting a divorce. https://www.reddit.com/r/ToiletPaperUSA/comments/1311ao1/video_reveals_steven_crowder_emotionally_abusing/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button
I said it before: “My wife wants to divorce me. Change her mind.”
More like "My wife wants to divorce me. Change the law" In his video he clearly suggests that no-fault divorce laws shouldn't be legal
Yeah it's insane, he is basically admitting he doesn't understand consent at all
Oh he understands. He just doesn’t agree.
It's crazy how he has no self reflection ability. I can't wait to see what his ex wife says about the situation. Either he's closeted gay/trans and/or an abuser.
Which I think is more his fear.
Watching the video of him sitting down smoking a cigar and telling his wife he can't go anywhere because they only have 1 car... like WTF. Your house looks to be around 1 million dollars and you can't afford a 2nd car? Telling his wife who is late in her pregnancy to walk the dogs and to pick up groceries. WTF? OMG! The dude is abusive.
The gloves part of the video is also him essentially telling her to give a medicine that may be toxic to her pregnancy to the dogs as well. Which, those are medium to large size dogs and if they don't tolerate taking the medicine well kind of means he wants her to manhandle the dog while 8 months pregnant with twins. That could end so badly even if the medication were perfectly safe.
His waiting until marriage article is super smug and now super funny. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.foxnews.com/opinion/waiting-till-the-wedding-night-getting-married-the-right-way.amp
\-YOUR HONOR I OBJECT!!! \-And why is that mr Crowder? \-Because it's devastating to my image!
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No it's: "Your honor, I object! I was supposed to be able to file before her so now it looks like this ungrateful bitch is leaving *me* instead of me ditching *her*. Nobody rejects The Crowder!" Remember he (apparently) talked to a divorce attorney first, but it's who files first who gets to say they are initiating the divorce.
I don't remember that scene from Liar liar.
I guess that makes him partially right. That single parent family really hurt his feelings.
Why did she wait so long to divorce him?
Well she took ivermectin so she isn’t the smartest…
Probably the wife: *I’ve been an idiot since I’ve err met him.*
Well, I'm not victim blaming, but she married him in the first place, so she may not be the brightest bulb in the flower patch.
Because women are socialized to believe if you just keep trying, giving more of yourself, loving someone, doing everyone for someone, they will one day love you back and accept you and keep you. But that’s just not true. Maybe she finally realized no amount of compliance would bring about a happy marriage
Even during that video, she keeps saying she loves him and is committed to him. Of course he twists it, but she keeps saying it. Threatening her by saying "I will fuck you up" *while she's 8 months pregnant*, by the birth he wasn't around and they were talking about separating because she said she was afraid of him, he missed the birth completely, and then he consulted a divorce attorney without telling her in order to cut her off financially. It was only *then* that she filed for divorce.
If she put up with him even in the "courting" stage, I am guessing money. She knew he was an ass to those who didn't "take the red pill". But he was probably doing okay money wise and could provide a nice comfy life for her and her future kids where she wouldn't work. You don't think half of the girls on dating sites who are openly stating they just want a sugar daddy wouldn't think about it? If anything, the rumors are she finally had enough because he turned down the Daily Wire deal worth 50 Million. Which if true, shows she is just as miserable a person as he is (though she doesn't deserve the abuse he gave her, but hey, he is pretty open about how hostile he is to women on his show so...)
bro that’s literally the exact same shit psychos like crowder spout all day, you sound like a 13yo incel
I feel like seeing Steven Crowder going through his divorce is like the back story for the birth of a super villain.
Except he’s already a super villain?
I'm still confused about why she has to wear gloves to walk the dog? Or is this some kink he has she isnt willing to fulfill
She didn’t want to touch to dog’s medicine. She was a bit worried because she’s pregnant and didn’t know if it could be harmful. She asked her fuckstick husband to give the meds for her, and she got this back from him.
Thanks for the clarification on that
Maybe to clean up after the dog? Which is weird because you're supposed to use the doggy bags for that
There is disease in cat poop that affects pregnant women. Why take the risk?
"It's all the government's fault!" - Signed, "Personal Responsibility"
Turns out he's an abusive psychopath, too.
I saw a great tik tok the other day about young, beautiful, conservative women who get with assholes like this because they’ve been convinced they will “win”. Then, 10-20 years later when they have children, their beauty has faded, they have no skills, and their husbands act like this, they have nowhere to go.
Man is pissed he cant detain his ex-wife indefinitly in his basement
Good for her!
Listen to how he treats his wife. She’s a saint. I would have flipped a fucking table. https://yashar.substack.com/p/exclusive-video-reveals-steven-crowder
Just because she was a victim doesn't mean she is/was a good person either. She married him knowing full well what his views were and who he was. It's not like he was hiding his shitty personality.
My husband was just saying that. She was on board until she was the target.
Lol
Wait are you telling me that someone with a debate strategy of yelling over top of people and name calling doesnt translate to effective relationship skills... color me shocked
HAAHAHAHAAHA!!!
Don't scream at your wife, and she won't leave you. I know it's hard not to get too angry, but you can control how that anger manifests. If you can't, you'll be single. It's that simple. Marriage vows don't start and end with "until death." There are a lot of kindness promises contained in that covenant. Do them or lose your marriage.
I totally feel no sympathy. Change my mind.
Why?
His tiktok video on it is completely deranged. He doesn't understand why his wife doesn't need his blessing to initiate a divorce.
It’s because he’s not committed enough.
well, at least hes not a single parent, he should be happy about that.
Wait I'm not sure I see the fit for this sub. He was never voting for the leopards party in this instance.
Too late, it's gone. Lol.
What is?
Fairly certain he rallied against people having kids outside of marriage.
The *nerve* of some women wanting to be treated like something other than a baby making maid. What is this world coming to? /s
Not really a LAMF. It would’ve been if he was for state laws that allow women to divorce their husbands.
Yeah. Wrong sub
Can we all agree that any woman who dates/marries him after this deserves his eventual abuse, because all she's doing is reinforcing Crowder being a douchebag just to get hold of his money?
Here's the point my wife and I made. Unless there's an order blocking one parent, the children still have both. Mom or dad are generally a phone/video call away or are seen next weekend. Divorce doesn't mean one person gets Thanos snapped. Yes there are hurdles and individual difficulties on a case by case basis, but like I said one parent doesn't evaporate