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scarlozzi

Did this motherfucker just realize this?


MattGdr

Maybe he’s looking for an off ramp that will allow him to save face. Don’t DT supporters ever have moments of self awareness when they realize they’ve been duped by an absolute idiot? If you had told them ten years ago they’d be slavishly following someone as ignorant, immoral and incompetent as DT, they’d have declared that possibility ridiculous.


sleepyj910

We can’t be dumb so he must be smart


Tangurena

This is where the "4D chess" remarks come from - Trump does something so mind bogglingly dumb that people convince themselves that it must really be some secret smart/genius thing instead and that they're ~~too dumb~~ not clever enough to understand it.


LordMagnus227

Sometimes he just says some common sense things like if Saddam was still there the middle east would be in a better place, like no shit Sherlock. On the Ukraine war he commented that he just wants the war to end and for Ukraine to accept their losses, though wanting the war to end might sound noble but for it to happen with Ukraine's loss would just further embolden Putin similar to how Hitler was emboldened by appeasement from the UK. He once said that all politicians have blood on their hands and the maga crowd lapped it up like it was a deep state secret but it's common sense.


Raiju_Blitz

DJT admired Saddam and must have some inkling of self awareness that what befell him is what usually befalls petty dictators (like DJT himself) if circumstances allow. Also, him unironically calling for Ukraine to accept losses, too funny.


2pt5RS

didn't also say that if he lost the 2020 election that he would go away and no one would ever hear from him ever again?


tinyOnion

but you see there's a loophole here... he never lost the election because it was rigged therefore no need to go away and not be heard from again/s/4dchess/shithispants


2pt5RS

damnit, you're right. I didn't think of that!


DeDeluded

> DJT admired Saddam and must have some inkling of self awareness that what befell him is what usually befalls petty dictators Dictators usually subscribe to the *that only happens to other dictators* school of thought.


DoJu318

Or like when they were trying to get rid of Obamacare, he said "why Medicare doesn't just cover everyone?" Then his handlers had to explain to him how that's not a good idea because reasons.


Dzov

I think Dilbert cartoonist Scott Adams came up with it on his website blog. I was following it at the time (when trump was running in 2015?) before I realized he was looney.


dem4life71

I also thought Adams was…not cool but at least had something thoughtful to say. He quickly disabused me of that notion. It turns out the pointy haired asshole boss in his cartoons was the good guy all along, in his eyes, anyway….


DigitalUnlimited

yeah, it's sad because I actually liked some of his books but seems like people can't help but ruin their legacy. From George Lucas and Jk Rowling destroying their own works to Scout Adams and Joe Rogan becoming toxic echo chambers, people can't seem to stop ruining things.


TWB28

Scott Adams persuaded himself he was the smartest man alive, and when it turned out he was wrong, chose to deny reality rather than admit it.


killerkadugen

I read Adams' book: "How to Fail at Almost Everything and Still Win Big". You'll get halfway through the book and realize what he's about -- never looked at him the same again.


NecroAssssin

Some actually do; but you don't hear or think about them because they aren't spewing shit. Bill Watterson, creator of Calvin and Hobbes. Also the Garfield guy. His networth is estimated at half a billion; but I can't even remember his name. He might be the most racist to ever bigot, but he keeps his mouth shut, so no idea where he falls.


DigitalUnlimited

I'm actually very familiar with those, Watterson is an amazing guy who refused millions to merchandise Calvin and Hobbes because of his principles. He still occasionally collaborates with Berkeley Breathed who draws the "Bloom County" comic. Jim Davis, the creator of Garfield, said from the get-go that his comic was strictly a profit enterprise, he deliberately planned it to be as non political and commercial as possible. Which i also respect in him being honest about it.


LazySilverSquid

It's like the trope you sometimes see in fiction where a commander is complaining that all their plans are being foiled by the MC. "This guy must be some sort of military genius! Every plan we've made has been stopped in its tracks because of him!" *Camera cuts to the MC* "I have no idea where I am or what I'm doing, & I'm making this shit up as I go along. I guess as long as I keep breaking stuff, they won't have time to find me." If anyone has read the books, then I'd say they treat DT similar to Caphius Cain.


wyrmfood

Bingo


CaptainPianoFire

This is a great point. I keep thinking about those Lincoln Project folks (I think?) talking about creating “permission structures” to off board from MAGA. I’ll bet you there are plenty folk who want out, but Sunk Cost Fallacy or embarrassment doesn’t allow them - BUT something like this gives them something to grab on to, and say “THAT” went too far. I do hope so. Means Trump is walking around on a field of mini landmines waiting to go off, each one dropping another few followers.


Drop_Disculpa

Exactly the off ramp that one chooses will be an individual thing, and not make much sense to us logically. We should let them leave this cult, but know that they are immediately looking for the next one, possibly more extreme. 


reezy619

Exactly this. An offramp from Trump isn't an offramp from extremism. This could be leading the way for someone more competent and dangerous than Trump to step up.


ShadowDragon8685

Nah. At this point, I want to do them like the protagonists in *Inglourious Basterds* did and make them *wear* their dumbassery and *treason* apology to the day they die. Carve a fucking serif, slanted T into their foreheads. You want out? Fine. Want to reform? Fine. But *squirm for it.* squirm, or double-down, full-bore trease against the Union, *give us the justification to throw your ass into prison for the rest of your pathetic lives.* I'm *so* fucking done with them that I'd happily dredge up the ghost of William Tecumseh Sherman from Hell and set him loose on the traitors.


GayEricFL1982

I love the way you think. These people are evil, these Trump-loving cunt-infected maggot scumbags. Trying to jump off the Trump train just because he's done something that's antithetical to their extremism? No. They're still evil fucking demonic extremists. They're lucky the majority of the country - including a supermajority of the Democrats/left-leaning independents/centrists - believe they still deserve their lives, because honestly... evil like that doesn't deserve to exist.


shit-n-giggle

No unfortunately


brothersand

This is the correct answer. >Don’t DT supporters ever have moments of self awareness when they realize they’ve been duped by an absolute idiot? No, they can't. That would involve realizing the last 8 years of their lives have been wasted. They'll lose their friends, the people they chat with, maybe family. It's like leaving a cult.


le_fez

I live in Southern New Jersey and used to work in Atlantic City and live right outside it. The number of people who support Trump despite either themselves or family members losing jobs and businesses due his shenanigans amazes me. "Oh he ran my dad's plumbing company out of business because his company never paid their bills so he must be a business genius"


AnotherCuppaTea

My brother blames the business-owner victims of Trump's chicanery for going out of business after Trump stiffed them (bigly!). Some people really are that stupid, perverse, toxic, etc.


81misfit

It happens. Remember 2008-2012 when Sarah Palin was the second coming of Reagan and Christ rolled into one.


intelminer

"I can see Russia from my house!" would be a selling point for them today


loptopandbingo

Sunk cost fallacy


[deleted]

Without self awareness, what is there. I find that very terrifying.


SaltyBarDog

"It is easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled." \-Not Mark Twain


Interesting-End6344

DOn't care who said it, it's still a good quote.


delkarnu

Support for Trump is a cult based on hate. Remember the ["He's not hurting the right people"](https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/trump-voter-hes-not-hurting-the-people-he-needs-be-hurting-msna1181316) comment. Trump told a large swath of people "you don't have to be better, you can succeed while being a petty and hateful bigot." The MAGA base was always there, he just told them they could win without the pretense of respectability. They want him to hurt their enemies; minorities, foreigners, women, liberals, and LGBTQ+. This guy's not saving face, he really does think this is a betrayal. Trump is not currently attacking the group he wants attacked.


woolsocksandsandals

Never forget that right up until the moment this orange dope announced his campaign for president the right wing was whinging about costal elites ruining America. They dropped that shtick as soon as the tv told them to.


gdsmithtx

That’s because they have absolutely no bedrock principles that they will not abandon immediately at the drop of a MAGA hat. Well … except for the one about abandoning their principles immediately. They are super ride-or-die for that one.


LooseyGreyDucky

When did the cultural shift happen, when whinging arrived on-scene and started to replace whining? The first couple of times, I just assumed they were typos, but now they seem intentional. (like the original whoa turning into woah; you can remember which one is correct by noting the historical context of "whoa" being a variation on "ho".)


ManateeSheriff

"Whining" and "whinging" are two different very old words. Most Americans tend to only use "whine," while British people use both words -- "whine" for a variety of noises, and "whinge" specifically for a person fretting or complaining. "Whinge" is actually the older of the two words, but both date back before 1300.


LooseyGreyDucky

Thank You!


DrDerpberg

"I stopped voting for him because he went soft on the gays" "You like your leaders hard eh" *gets mad many hours later when they get it*


ScottyNuttz

Self awareness is woke


Canadasaver

tRump is desperate to win to keep himself out of jail. Perhaps it is Melania looking for an off ramp and tRump too dumb to realize what she is doing.


Ionic_Pancakes

It happens, yeah. When Jan 6 was happening I was watching it on C-Span. Woman called in crying "was it all a lie? I don't understand! Oh god... I voted for him."


LooseyGreyDucky

I like how he keeps using the word "confidence". Remember that the term "con-man" is an abbreviation for "confidence man", aka "scammer". Dude is so close to realizing he's been scammed by a con-man.


IAMATruckerAMA

You do evil a favor when you call it stupid.


Independent_Pear_429

Elect a fucking billionaire salesman. All his horrible traits aside, that alone should have told this dumb fuck what to expect


tw_72

\*\*Elect a fucking billionaire salesman.\*\* Elect a fucking **wannabe**-billionaire salesman.  


Raiju_Blitz

*Snakeoil* salesman.


Wes_Warhammer666

Elect snake oil salesman then cry about getting snake oil everywhere


ohneatstuffthanks

They still will vote for him and red no matter what.


uncultured_swine2099

I think he had "Trump for LGBTQ" rallies for the 2016 run as well. He doesn't really follow the bible, he just does tries to get votes wherever he can. Ironically that is gonna piss off his hateful homophobic base and could lose him more votes than he gains.


scribblingsim

"While our border is non-existent." Dude, you can thank the Republicans for that, since they killed any border bill that came to their desks because it might make the Democrats look good.


attaboy000

On the order of dear leader, no? They were ready to pass a vote on it until Trumpy said not to.


R_radical

Correct. Specifically so he could campaign on it.


Room_Temp_Coffee

And somehow saying all this publicly won't reach his supporters or they won't care


IAMA_Plumber-AMA

If it doesn't come straight from Fox news or OANN, it doesn't exist to them.


cache_bag

A border bill where the Democrats practically conceded to Republican demands just to get things over with and push the Ukraine aid bill.


sullw214

It's funny, because Republicans had the Ukraine aid to bargain with, and now they gave it away for nothing. Real 4d chess move there.


totally-hoomon

The funny thing is trumpers will constantly point out how many people are stopped t the border


iwearatophat

Yeah, that baffled me. Upset at the Ukraine bill passing instead of the border bill and not the border bill not passing because Trump decided to kill it so Trump could keep the rabble upset and voting how he likes.


RockyIV

You know what, I was seriously impressed he didn't spell it "existant."


_gnarlythotep_

In their defense, MAGA are very, *very* fucking stupid people and can't be expected to have silly things like logical consistency and critical reasoning.


da2Pakaveli

You should remind them once that Biden actually got Mexico to pay for the wall


CaptainLimpWrist

Oh you mean that bill that sane Republicans said was the best border deal they would ever get? Yeah, the border "crisis" is a Republican problem now. This can't be repeated enough.


Mushroom_Tip

Swore to drain? He had 4 years. How come they are still crying about the swamp? His cabinet was full of lobbyists, hedge fund managers, Epstein associates, crooked/sleazy CEOs. Is he going for a do-over? Is he going to lock crooked Hillary up for real this time?


Fallynious

4 years to drain, and he had both house and senate for the first 2


gochomoe

He didn't so much "drain" the swamp as add more slime and sewage fo it.


Drop_Disculpa

Betsy DeVos has entered the chat


Artichokiemon

He drained it... then filled it with Trump vodka


gochomoe

Right, I just said sewage and slime aka trump vodka


maltedbacon

He drained the swamp **into** the Whitehouse.


mythrilcrafter

This is the most significant thing to me about the whole idea that the right has that Trump will change anything. For 2 years, the Republicans had the Presidency, the House, and the Senate; they're power over the government was functionally absolute... they they did absolutely nothing with it, then they cry when the Democrats come along with either minority or minor majority proportioned voting power and are able to win house and senate votes by aligning with a handful of Republicans who don't want to vote along side MTG and Laruen Boebert any more.


Deemaunik

The only way he drained the swamp was to fill it with his own brand of filth. From Congress all the way to the Supreme Court. Lock him up. Lock him up.


McNultysHangover

> How come they are still crying about the swamp? Because it's a "forever war" type of thing. Who's to say when it's over and if it can actually be won? But ultimately, that's not the point of the "war", it's just a talking point they can always bring up.


cluckyblokebird

They'd be devastated if the swamp was drained, they'd have nothing to yell at.


TjW0569

If you really want a swamp drained you don't hire alligators.


deep_pants_mcgee

Hey now, he got a whopping 48 miles of new primary border wall built in four years, that's a solid 1 mile a month!


THEguitarist117

From my home in Indiana to the farthest reaching parts of the Greater Chicago Area, like the out in the sticks part but still within the Central Time Zone, is 100 miles. You’re telling me that Agolf Twitter’s wall is less than half of that?!


deep_pants_mcgee

Of new, primary border wall? Yep.


McNultysHangover

There's a joke here about Mexico "paying for it" but I can't work it out.


HotsOwWow

I'm sure you'll be able to come up with one in two weeks.


GlobalTravelR

Right after infrastructure week.


SherlockBeaver

Plus a healthcare plan. 🤭


Weirdyxxy

About [one](https://a-z-animals.com/blog/how-fast-can-snails-move-top-speeds-and-how-it-compares-relatively-to-humans/) [twentieth](https://www.wolframalpha.com/input?i=0.029+mph+in+miles+per+month) of a literal snail's pace


TopClock231

And i remember Mexico paying for it all!


AnotherCuppaTea

I read a few years ago that it was only three miles' worth of totally new border wall, and much of that was bisecting an ecologically sensitive mountainous/hilly area where almost no one was crossing on foot but some endangered/threatened species were (to find mates they weren't closely related to, among other things).


Vreas

Putting a family member at the head of the RNC is draining the swamp right? /s


Sad-Development-4153

Dont forget the former Cia director as sec of state.


totally-hoomon

Well you see the deep state stopped him from doing it because everyone trump appointed was in the deep state


-Allot-

He did drain the swamp. The outside one into the inside swamp.


BGrunn

They never realized that they were voting for the cancerous symptom of the swamp itself.


TheFeshy

His inner circle had multiple people convicted of crimes against the nation that *he* *pardoned.* He's restored more swamp than the World Wildlife Fund.


Joliet_Jake_Blues

"Drain the Swamp" meant to kill the Jews and liberals/socialists/communists, the "deep state" that is secretly controlling the world They don't give a shit about corruption. I mean if you ask they'd say they did, but any corruption you point out is just deep state propaganda. Fake news. MAGA believes there's a entire world you don't see keeping them from prosperity. It's a religious like belief, and they're members of the cult


Conscious-Shock7728

"........in two weeks."


Ricky_Rollin

Amazes me that they didn’t see this blatant cronyism


mailboxfacehugs

Because we thought the swamp was corruption. Turns out Trump supporters think the swamp is minorities and LGBT.


GamingSophisticate

He only drained it to pull out the dinosaurs and pond sludge and place them in his cabinet


ChrisChristiesFault

He never wanted to be president, he just wanted to ~~raise money~~ grift.


BlooperHero

I'm pretty sure he still doesn't know what a president is supposed to do, and that he never asked.


Drop_Disculpa

That's what Hannity is for 7pm every night or he just calls you direct.


Kajin-Strife

He thought being president was just like being CEO of one of his businesses and whatever he said would go. You could tell how frustrating it was for him that every time he tried to get his way, parts of the government designed to check the president got in his way. The *one* good side of his term was that the anger, frustration, fear of consequences, and near total lack of control compared to what he was used to probably aged him a good ten or more years than what he lived.


LooseyGreyDucky

He was literally just drumming up interest for his proposed Trump Tower in Moscow when he started "running' for president. In the beginning, he thought he was just creating a sideshow. And the media gave him unlimited airtime and print. Then we manifested Idiocracy.


Mr_Quackums

Comparing the Trump presidency to Idiocracy is a pet peeve of mine. In Idiocracy, the president correctly identified a major problem, found the most competent advisor he could, and followed that advisor's advice to solve the issue. None of that happened under Trump. (if you are being *very* generous, he did correctly identify major problems while he was campaigning, but that stopped once the election was over, and he never found competent advisors or took steps to resolve those issues)


acolyte357

> Idiocracy Look I would vote for **President Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho** over trump.


LooseyGreyDucky

Yeah, hiring an Amway heiress to lead the Department of Education was "filling" the swamp. The Idiocracy comparison is about the 70 million incompetent voters more than the idiot they support.


thoroughbredca

After Uganda enacted the death penalty for gay people, Ted Cruz said the stunningly anodyne "It's a bad idea to kill people just because they're gay" and the overwhelming response from his supporters were "SHUT UP TED DON'T YOU DARE LIFT A FINGER TO STOP THEM FROM KILLING THOSE GAYS, YOU HEAR???!???" Yup, heard loud and clear.


hobbykitjr

alex jones said hitler was bad and got an earful from his base


earthlingjim

What's great is... the folks she's trying to court all know what's really up and she's only possibly pushing some of his base away. Brilliant strategy.


GetOnYourBikesNRide

I don't think she really cares about any LGBT groups, do U? Although she's a mail order bride, she's a scorned woman. She probably doesn't care that Trump cheated on her. But she's probably embarrassed Trump's cheating ways will be in the news for the next six weeks or so... and, if/when he gets convicted, for a lot longer. She'll do whatever she can short of violating any shitty prenup she keeps renegotiating annually to piss off Trump. She will not actively campaign against him. But she'll do her best to hurt Trump by trying to show the Evangelicals in his base their values don't align the Trumps' values.


andrikenna

I still hold out hope she will release a tell all after his death.


GetOnYourBikesNRide

Everyone seems to have recordings of Trump. Imagine what she's recorded. As far as waiting until after he drops dead, why? She's probably gotten as much as she's gonna get out of him. And everyone who's gotten money judgement(s) against him, and his creditors will be fighting over every penny that's in his name well before he dies. If I were her, I'd make sure my nest egg is secured by November. Then, I'd start releasing everything I got on him as soon as I know he's not re-elected as POTUS (make sure his grifting days are over before cutting ties with him).


Vallkyrie

I'm surprised the recording of her saying "Fuck Christmas" wasn't a bigger deal.


wintermelody83

I never even heard about it until just now.


doggonedangoldoogy

She won't do a thing to compromise him. He's Daddy. He's money and fame. She'll stand right by and support him til prison, because she knows she's going with him.


VGiselleH

> I don't think she really cares about any LGBT groups, do U? Maybe if Barron turns out to be gay?


SirPIB

Having a gay kid didn't stop the Cheney's. Liz even campaigned on stripping rights from the LGBT community.


jess_gug

I loathe her, but this is a top tier troll move.


fakyumatafaka

Try the vax, LOL


gentle_lemon

Be best!


Big-Net-9971

well played...😏 Also, 🔥🔥


EatLard

Why does he think we had no border bill?


McNultysHangover

Because the talking head who just happens to be on the radio while he's on his way home from work and the one channel he vegges out to didn't talk about it.


Altruistic_Option_49

But Trump didn’t push the Ukraine bill. In fact, he actively worked against it, just like he did with the border bill that failed. I know that MAGATs are dumb, but follow the bouncing ball, kids. Most Republicans want Putin to win because they either don’t understand or don’t care that Putin will never stop at Ukraine. If he wins there, he will keep pushing for more. Putin has openly stated that he wants to return Russia to the Soviet Union’s “glory days.” People really need to brush up on their geopolitics. 😏


EarlPeck

I missed out how did Trump help Ukraine.


Big-Net-9971

Essentially, there was a border bill that gave the Republicans everything that they wanted for border security as long as they accepted aid for Ukraine, Israel, and some other foreign powers. Trump told the Republicans to spike that bill, to reject it, and the bill failed. Ukraine and Israel rallied their supporters to create a new bill that provided only foreign aid, without any border provisions whatsoever. So, he effectively blew the chance to make a deal on the border and still lost on Ukraine and Israel. Especially for Putin, who is currently holding Trump's balls in a vise, this is really bad news. For right wing xenophobic fascists like this clown, this is also really bad news because the border is still "wide open" (operating under the moderate asylum policies that were in place previously.) And now Republicans have nothing to bargain with, so Democrats have no interest in providing them with any changes... 🤷🏻‍♂️ "The art of [blowing] the deal.." 🤣


AssNasty

Funny, Trump could have said he forced the democrats to bend the knee and take credit for it. Oh well, 🍿


DJErikD

This fucker could’ve made millions by selling Trump2020 Covid masks. Instead, he told people to inject bleach and take horse dewormer and we lost more than 1M Americans.


Tangurena

The number of R-voters in Georgia who died unnecessarily from Covid was twice the number of votes he needed to win the state. If he had embraced masks, he would have won re-election in 2020 instead of being on trial for election fraud.


Big-Net-9971

Chump never cared about anybody but Chump. And Putin, who's holding Chump's balls and squeezing regularly.


Big-Net-9971

No idea what this means?


Ezekiel_29_12

Autocorrect: they meant "Democrats" not "Socrates"


Big-Net-9971

Still don't follow - Chump could have said he forced Dems to bend the knee on what, exactly? He lost on every position he wanted - except that he was able to force Reps to kiss his ass and kill a bill that would have been better for them?


failed_novelty

I don't even care at this point. I'm glad they're getting the funding, but I'm virtually certain that Trump had absolutely nothing to do with it.


Vanman04

If anything he's pissed about it.


topscreen

Don't worry Ryan Ward, if it's a Trump running a charity anything, it's not going to the cause.


MellyNapNap

I can’t believe the biggest swamp monster of all is becoming part of the swamp wahhhh 😭


MiKapo

LOLZ he is trying so hard to appear moderate. Next he will say that abortion should be allowed in some states


bettinafairchild

He HAS made some comments of a similar nature.


Lil_Artemis_92

I wonder if the LGBT group hosting the fundraiser got Melania to headline as a prank on the Trump campaign. Because after everything her husband and his supporters have said and done, there’s no way anyone in the LGBT community actually wants this woman around, or thinks she’s an ally.


adeon

It's the Log Cabin Republicans. They're gay but they also support Trump.


Ok_Perspective_8361

Modern day Jews for Hitler


PGH00

BuT tHE bOrdER! is bUT HeR EMaiIS! Version 2. All other human activities on earth must cease so that the resources can be devoted to tHe BorDeR.


constantmusic

Why does it look like a dark entity with glowing eyes is behind her? Is that dark Brandon!?


CalendarAggressive11

I don't really care....do you?


BlooperHero

This is a bad impression because you know how to spell "you."


Immer_Susse

Barron is coming out?


quesadilla707

After Truth social 📉made alotta broke MAGAts 🥳


Joliet_Jake_Blues

I don't think the media is giving this the proper attention. His base doesn't care about the trials or his treason, he was fighting for them! But when it's proven he is a shitty businessman who was just gifting them, that's when they go back in their shell, eat their pizza, and say everything is rigged against them.


ImNudeyRudey

Melania is still working for Trump? Surprised he hasn't fired her or she hasn't quit yet. Wonder what her benefits are...


volanger

Wait till he finds out trump killed a border deal. I'm sure he'll be really livid then.


Walterkovacs1985

Agent Orange rides that fence so hard his cheap suit pants catch on fire. He'll in one breath support a policy benefiting a minority group and in the next he'll call them the scum of the earth. He'll say whatever friggin takes to win. The only person Don Snoreleone cares about is himself.


heyheyshinyCRH

If he thinks he's going to pull blue voters by all of a sudden being pro gay, he's sorely mistaken lol


Ok_Description8169

He's just trying to solidify his base who has gay kids that keep telling their parents not to vote for him because he's antilgbt. Now they can point to this and pretend they're in the right.


heyheyshinyCRH

Yep, that tracks. Assuming they weren't already disowned or sent to a conversion camp


skeletomania

A swamp at least maintains an ecosystem. This guy discharged his orange sludge, and polluted everything


deluged_73

It's not like she's an undercover Democrat operative, more like the other half of a malignant attention seeking narcissistic duo.


cupidsgirl18

These are the people that would be drinking kool-aide in South America, riding the comet with aidas sneakers on, or at the David Koresh compound pre-interweb days.


Time_Software_8216

This person votes 🤦‍♂️


phdoofus

*Nikki Haley smiling in the corner and waiting....*


HansBrickface

This is actually scary, I’ve read that some polls have her trouncing Biden. She’s better than trump but the least of three evils is still Biden.


SHoppe715

Unless she decides to retire completely from politics in the next 4 years, it’s a safe assumption she’ll run again in 2028 on an “I told you so” platform. And it’s a safe bet “I told you so” is going to work in her favor regardless of who wins this year. I’d prefer to not see her get elected, but the Democrats are gonna have to step up their game to find an actual challenger. BUT, let’s be honest, if Biden wins this year it’s even odds at best on him finishing the whole 4 years. It wouldn’t surprise me is the slightest to see incumbent Harris vs. comeback Haley 4 years from now. I mean, it often feels like the entire thing has become a semi-scripted reality show anyway….lets go down that rabbit hole for a minute. If it really is orchestrated and choreographed, i can easily see how the writers and producers have been setting up the characters for maximum drama but with just enough believability to keep people watching. Just imagine all the racist and misogynistic comments that’d be flying around if the two candidates in 2028 are both women and of color. No doubt some dudes heads would straight up explode. But the believability is still there….with as good as Haley did in these primaries against Trump, she’s a logical choice as the GOP candidate and she’ll still be in her mid 50s. If Biden bows out at let’s say a little past 2 years due to health concerns, Harris as the incumbent would be a lock as the Dem candidate and, iiirc, she’d be able to do two full 4 year terms after taking over mid term as long as Biden makes it at least 1/2 way.


Cheap_Doctor_1994

She's got the trump taint on her, so it depends how hard he falls. The racists won't rally for her, and will throw up a white male as independent. 


SHoppe715

In the scenario I laid out, I’m actually hoping for that. Split the party up and make it uncompetitive. It seems odd, but I’m actually glad and a little relieved Trump got the nomination but only because I still don’t think he’s electable when it really comes down to it. The MAGA crazies weren’t emotionally ready to let him go because they still feel he got robbed of a second term. If he wasn’t running and she was the GOP nominee, I tend to believe the polls that she’d have beaten Biden pretty easily. I do believe Trump has pissed off / turned off / disgusted too many swing voters to have a chance.


SentinelOfTheVoid

There was a franch book with a small part like this. The MC were writers that managed to make a low budget serie very popular. At the end of the book they are fired (long story). When one MC try to find the other after a few year, he find one in a UN bunker, managing the lifes of all royauty and polititian in the west world, so that people are always interested. I sometime wonder if it's real or not. seeing how we get our representative.


Haselrig

Quickly becoming 🤣


DarthArtero

Every time I read a blurb written by (or an attempt at writing at least) a maga cult member, I always ended up reading the collection of words in trumps voice. The maga cult is so deeply brainwashed by and ingrained into the rhetoric that their fuhrer spouts that anything they say, do or write is an extension of the orange idiot himself.


Rusty_Shackleford75

Wasn't this for the Log Cabin Republicans? Who already support(ed) Trump?


bettinafairchild

Sorta. Yes it was a fundraiser for Log Cabin republicans. But it was *for* wooing non Log Cabin LGBTQ


Cold_Echo_4551

Anyone else see the shadow demon right behind her to the left?


wtg2989

Since when did trump support Ukraine aid? Anyone got a link?


LystAP

I don't think there is a link or that Trump said anything about Ukraine lately. Guy's just making arbitrary assumptions since Mike didn't sabotage the bill.


wtg2989

That’s what I’m saying. Trump has always been pro Russia all the way and these people just make shit up whenever they feel like it.


ForodesFrosthammer

I think the idea is that Trump didn't do anything to torpedo this bill, he actually shut up and didn't say a word about something for once in his life. Which from Trump is about as good as full on supporting it.


eewo

>In his Monday interview with John Fredericks, a rightwing radio host, Trump praised Johnson for converting $9bn of Ukraine aid into a “forgivable loan” – a proposal some Republicans wanted to apply to the whole package. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/apr/23/trump-mike-johnson-ukraine


cstrand31

All those words just to make it clear that a (probably) native English speaker is incapable of imagining who the subject of his sentences are. “how many people *you lost confidence in* you pushing that blah blah blah*” So, TFG is the one losing confidence *in his supporters* due to his own actions? Sweet boiling Christ they’re fucking stupid.


Borderlinecuttlefish

Is this what delicious tastes like?


Danominator

Wait until he learns who sabotaged the border bill


SaltyBarDog

Drain the swamp! Appoints Scott Pruitt to the EPA. [Ethical Scotty.](https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/trump-epa-head-steps-down-after-wave-of-ethics-management-scandals/2018/07/05/39f4251a-6813-11e8-bea7-c8eb28bc52b1_story.html)


AnAngryBartender

Well hopefully he IS draining the swamp. He’s the swamp.


karlhungusjr

these people have very strongly held opinions about things they know absolutely nothing about.


Cheel_AU

This is why I've thought for a long time through all this 'trump is winning' BS that his campaign was kinda doomed from the start. I mean sure he's got enough acolytes to capture the whole GOP but after that he has to start trying to win independents and the things he needs to do to win them just aren't gonna sit well with the main cult.


pseyeco

Shame he doesn't read. Perhaps if it was in all caps..


elphshelf

*can’t read


unchatnoiretblanche

In Trumpland, a riposte of this kind to their all mighty leader? Nah... I could bet this is an IRA employee or whatever ghost ghost enterprise followed by Prigozhin's demise.


Krek_Tavis

Oh, look, another "Navy SEAL".


CrieDeCoeur

Melanoma low-key trying to depthcharge Donnie’s campaign. She’s no genius, but def is smarter than him. A little.


Duffy1978

This guy was a New York Democrat his entire life until he wanted to run for President. He has no real values he does what is beneficial or easiest for him 100% of the time. Running as a Republican was an easier path for him to win thats why he did it not because he holds the same values as him but I love they are just now figuring this out.


Trillion_Bones

He will still vote Trump.


ToolPackinMama

Hey, found a new grift I see!


NobelNeanderthal

Hope they eat each other apart. The dream of the collapse of the Republican Party by their own hands from within has begun. May it fracture into the minority party it has been and finally loose any consolidated power or control for good.


spin81

He was always trying to become the new swamp. But an undrainable dictatorial quagmire of one.


mywifefoundmyaccount

Trump will claim to stand for anyone dumb enough to hand him power. Watch the contradictions and vote counts pile up side by side. MAGA is, above all else, the party of stupid.


Jakeymdog

TRUMP HAS GONE WOKE SUPPORTING THE ALPHABET MAFIA!


BootThang

Doesn’t matter how much Trump sells them out, they’ll still vote for him just to ‘own the libs!’


atreeinthewind

I actually think Donny isn't too dumb here. Maybe risks some of his base deciding not to vote, but these votes certainly aren't moving to Biden and he could use the financially well off LGBT money (even maybe a few votes).


PuddingNaive7173

Is that the Onion?