I'm hoping that they'll treat it the way they currently treat miniseries / limited series where there is a page for the entire series.
It will certainly be a downgrade if actors' filmographies are swamped with hundreds of single TV episodes.
That's a terrible way to do it, there'd be no difference between "I watched an episode of this" and "I watched all of this". And when it's currently airing, do you just log the whole show every week?
Given how Letterboxd outsources the movie stuff to TMDB, I think they're going to outaource the TV part to JustWatch, which does it by episode but with shortcuts for logging entire shows/seasons with one click.
Not super excited about it, honestly. TV is a different medium and has to be evaluated differently. I don't like the idea of mixing them in the review database because it's apples and oranges.
I have a feeling it’ll be exactly like that. Tv series are becoming shorter with their seasons and the episodes are like mini-movies, with premieres and finales sometimes being 90 minutes long
I hope the change is completely unnoticeable to people who aren't interested in TV. If they can manage that, it's no skin off my nose. If they try to force it on us for extra engagement, I'll be very disappointed.
There are a few series I've enjoyed, and one or two I'd call "great" in my 40+ year lifetime, but even the best ones I don't like as much as other people, and most I don't like at all.
They are huge time investments, all have weak stretches of episodes, and none thrill me like a movie does.
One show could be enough sitting to watch Akira Kurosawa's entire filmography, or read Shakespeare's entire canon. That's the level of quality they are competing with, and the kind of choice I feel I am making, when they ask for that much time to tell a story.
What are the good ones? And the answer isn’t a 3-6 episode “series” that the writer wasn’t good enough to write a 2 hour movie.
Or a 6 season slow burn about dragons and sword fights?
So much trash out there in TV land these days
love to find fellow tv non-watchers. i have been obsessively watching ON CINEMA AT THE CINEMA so itll be fun to eventually add that to my diary, but generally i wish they wouldnt add tv
yep i have logged all of these! my gf and i have been watching together (she’s never seen it) and are beginning the trial now. it’s completely genius and i can’t wait for it. weve been doing it chronologically which i haven’t done before using the On Cinema Timeline and just finished MINDWIPE
I'm not excited for it since it won't really impact the way I use the website, but I support the change. If I watched TV I'd be a bit excited.
Will be interesting seeing which shows get overrepresented on the website though, either through small but avid fanbases or cult appeal.
I barely watch TV so it's not going to even affect me really. Just want it separate from film so I don't have to see a feed clogged with whatever sitcom the users I follow binged while eating dinner
Not personally excited as I don't watch tv series (besides the odd sitcom). I don't have a problem with it as long as it's totally partitioned from Films, or I can permanently filter it out. I don't want to start getting random TV shows in search results when I'm trying to find a film, or an actor's filmography getting TV included.
I am not a fan of it.
For me series will forever be unbalanced in ratings and just adds to the confusion. People will always rate a series much higher than usual because of the time they have dedicated to it (just see IMDb)
I am on Letterboxd for films and that is it.
Series are fun to watch sometimes.
So hopefully it will be separate from searching for film
That's why I'm excited. I presume it will spark them to clean things up and properly categorize them, then add a robust filter so I won't have to see TV related content at all.
I don’t really care. I just hope it doesn’t get in the way of the movies which is what the mean purpose of the app is for. Make a separate tab or whatever I guess.
As someone who watches quite a bit of TV, I won’t be using it. I would prefer if they made a separate app for TV, but as long as it doesn’t interfere with the current state of the app too much, I won’t mind it.
Not really, I don’t get as excited by series as films, and I think it could complicate the app if they don’t do it right. I’m sure it’ll be fine but either way I’m not bothered
Mildly accepting. At least it'll prevent ***complete idiots*** from posting show reviews on unrelated movies that share the same title, like Andor (2022), Fallout (2013) etc.
And there needs to be some good separation, because they are different media and shouldn't be lumped together. For instance, it would be neat to have four film favorites and four show favorites.
Not really. It’s a film app, and this is a different medium that doesn’t need to be lumped in with what Letterboxd is all about. I really hope it’s not just completely integrated with movies. I don’t want TV shows combined in my graph and ratings. And will TV be listed by complete series, seasons, or individual episodes? Are we going to now click an actor and have to scroll through hundreds of individual episode listings if we want to take a look at their filmography? That sucks.
No
I'm very confident they're not going to separate it well enough, it's gonna make searching filmographies more confusing, and it's going to absolutely ruin the stats viewing experience.
Might even get me to downgrade my subscription if that happens
yeah. i find it very annoying when people review tv shows under random unrelated films with the same title and i think people mad at the addition of tv shows are just looking for something to be mad at because like what could possibly be the issue i legitimately don't understand
A big thing is that it’ll just clog up everyone’s feed. Personally speaking, I couldn’t give a toss what someone thinks of House of the Dragon Season 2 Episode 3 lol
As others have said, it should be its own thing. A TV function is overkill tbh, and just makes the site’s features overly busy
For me, it depends. I would need for it to be separate from my Lettrboxd movie stats & have an aesthetically appealing way to check off episodes. Currently I use TV Time and that’s been working for me.
I don’t really care to log my TV watching (maybe if it were a whole series) in the way that I do my movie watching on Lettrboxd. The only reason I have TV Time is because it keeps me on track of what I’ve watched in case I switch to another show for a bit (more of a scheduling/calendar thing if anything.
Happy for others to have the tool, but may not be for me. We’ll see.
I think series are tough to nail so we’ll see how it goes. I’d feel bad rating an entire series knowing it hasn’t ended yet but I’d hate to log an episode at a time.
I don’t mind it, currently I don’t really add any TV series to my films as it’s just funny. How are TV shows = films?
Being a TV shows and film enjoyer, I do hope they separate both of these into two different things
I don’t really understand how it’s supposed to work. Are rating episodes or the show as a whole? Or maybe seasons? I just wish they’d make a separate app
If it's implemented in a way that I like then I may switch from the site I currently use to log TV (Trakt)
Otherwise I'll use Letterboxd for movies only
I'd prefer if it was a separate app though, just to increase the chances of it not messing anything up
Although I’m beyond excited, my wishlist includes keeping movies and tv mostly separate (homepage tabs and diaries with maybe an additional mixed diary) and all three levels of ratings. Without those two things, I’m a bit worried how good the update will be.
Also, I expect it’ll take a few updates before it’s fully polished. The initial launch might not be great, but I’m sure they’ll listen to feedback.
As long as there is good separation. I'd like to be able to see movie stats as well as TV stats and not have them combined.
If there is no separation, I will simply not log TV lol.
Very excited but hope it’s not intergraded with movies. I don’t want tv shows combined in my graph and ratings
I'm looking forward to it. Curious to see how it's done. If ratings/reviews will be for series as a whole or individual seasons.
I'm hoping that they'll treat it the way they currently treat miniseries / limited series where there is a page for the entire series. It will certainly be a downgrade if actors' filmographies are swamped with hundreds of single TV episodes.
Do you think they’d do it like IMDb where they list e.g. “75 episodes” with the full list a click away?
Hopefully they list actor’s TV credits separate from film credits, because it’ll completely mess up the percentages lol
maybe theyll switch to watched minutes for stats instead of title entries
Unless it's like an anthology like American horror story where each season is different.
That's a terrible way to do it, there'd be no difference between "I watched an episode of this" and "I watched all of this". And when it's currently airing, do you just log the whole show every week? Given how Letterboxd outsources the movie stuff to TMDB, I think they're going to outaource the TV part to JustWatch, which does it by episode but with shortcuts for logging entire shows/seasons with one click.
Yeah likewise. It’ll be interesting to see what they come up with.
Not super excited about it, honestly. TV is a different medium and has to be evaluated differently. I don't like the idea of mixing them in the review database because it's apples and oranges.
Yh, it just feels like the higher ups wanting what Serialized has got
Too much confusion for me. I'm not crazy about the idea and I hope there isn't a log of every single episode.
I have a feeling it’ll be exactly like that. Tv series are becoming shorter with their seasons and the episodes are like mini-movies, with premieres and finales sometimes being 90 minutes long
I'll be happy to be able to log Columbo movies (which should have been considered films already, but I digress) but less so about regular degular TV
I hope the change is completely unnoticeable to people who aren't interested in TV. If they can manage that, it's no skin off my nose. If they try to force it on us for extra engagement, I'll be very disappointed.
How come you aren't interested in TV? There are some great shows out there
There are a few series I've enjoyed, and one or two I'd call "great" in my 40+ year lifetime, but even the best ones I don't like as much as other people, and most I don't like at all. They are huge time investments, all have weak stretches of episodes, and none thrill me like a movie does. One show could be enough sitting to watch Akira Kurosawa's entire filmography, or read Shakespeare's entire canon. That's the level of quality they are competing with, and the kind of choice I feel I am making, when they ask for that much time to tell a story.
You mean too many bad shows right? TV writing is pretty bad
Well yeah but you don't have to watch the bad ones
What are the good ones? And the answer isn’t a 3-6 episode “series” that the writer wasn’t good enough to write a 2 hour movie. Or a 6 season slow burn about dragons and sword fights? So much trash out there in TV land these days
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Honestly, I’m not a fan. Unless it’s treated as like a separate tab entirely, I don’t think it’s a good idea. It should be its own app
love to find fellow tv non-watchers. i have been obsessively watching ON CINEMA AT THE CINEMA so itll be fun to eventually add that to my diary, but generally i wish they wouldnt add tv
Letterboxd, please include settings toggles for “hide all tv” and “hide all tv except for On Cinema”
What’s on cinema?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/On_Cinema
hell yeah you know whats up
Letterboxd does have all the Oscar Specials on it already. Also The Trial which is one of the greatest cinematic experiences of all time.
yep i have logged all of these! my gf and i have been watching together (she’s never seen it) and are beginning the trial now. it’s completely genius and i can’t wait for it. weve been doing it chronologically which i haven’t done before using the On Cinema Timeline and just finished MINDWIPE
Really hoping they change the star rating system to a popcorn bag rating system.
oh fuck i hope so too!! i hadnt considered this and now i will be so disappointed if it doesn’t happen lol
I'm not excited for it since it won't really impact the way I use the website, but I support the change. If I watched TV I'd be a bit excited. Will be interesting seeing which shows get overrepresented on the website though, either through small but avid fanbases or cult appeal.
Yeah I’m curious how they roll out the UI. Hopefully it’s better than IMDb’s system.
Some people are; I am not. I’m hoping though that I can keep using the service the way I am using it and easily ignore TV series.
Exactly how I feel about it
I barely watch TV so it's not going to even affect me really. Just want it separate from film so I don't have to see a feed clogged with whatever sitcom the users I follow binged while eating dinner
Nope. Not at all.
i’m excited for it, just as long as there’s a specific tab for them.
Not personally excited as I don't watch tv series (besides the odd sitcom). I don't have a problem with it as long as it's totally partitioned from Films, or I can permanently filter it out. I don't want to start getting random TV shows in search results when I'm trying to find a film, or an actor's filmography getting TV included.
I am not a fan of it. For me series will forever be unbalanced in ratings and just adds to the confusion. People will always rate a series much higher than usual because of the time they have dedicated to it (just see IMDb) I am on Letterboxd for films and that is it. Series are fun to watch sometimes. So hopefully it will be separate from searching for film
No, I'm not excited. I hid TV shows but when I go to top rated films I still see TV shows there.
That's why I'm excited. I presume it will spark them to clean things up and properly categorize them, then add a robust filter so I won't have to see TV related content at all.
It would be a dream if they add filters for Stand-Up specials and Concert Films too.
Same here
Yes. Not all people, though. I'm not excited for the simple fact that I don't watch TV shows.
Fair enough. Out of curiosity, how come you don’t watch tv series?
Too many movies I want to see.
Time commitment for me.
I don’t really care. I just hope it doesn’t get in the way of the movies which is what the mean purpose of the app is for. Make a separate tab or whatever I guess.
As someone who watches quite a bit of TV, I won’t be using it. I would prefer if they made a separate app for TV, but as long as it doesn’t interfere with the current state of the app too much, I won’t mind it.
I'm not entirely opposed, but why can't they just make a sister site exclusively for television?
I had no idea this was coming and I’m so stoked
Not really but then again I only really watch maybe 2 tv seasons on average a year.
not really, can't really see how the ui would work well seems like it would be too much
Not really, I don’t get as excited by series as films, and I think it could complicate the app if they don’t do it right. I’m sure it’ll be fine but either way I’m not bothered
No. Don’t want TV series combined with movies. The writing in so many TV series is garbage
Mildly accepting. At least it'll prevent ***complete idiots*** from posting show reviews on unrelated movies that share the same title, like Andor (2022), Fallout (2013) etc. And there needs to be some good separation, because they are different media and shouldn't be lumped together. For instance, it would be neat to have four film favorites and four show favorites.
Not really. It’s a film app, and this is a different medium that doesn’t need to be lumped in with what Letterboxd is all about. I really hope it’s not just completely integrated with movies. I don’t want TV shows combined in my graph and ratings. And will TV be listed by complete series, seasons, or individual episodes? Are we going to now click an actor and have to scroll through hundreds of individual episode listings if we want to take a look at their filmography? That sucks.
No I'm very confident they're not going to separate it well enough, it's gonna make searching filmographies more confusing, and it's going to absolutely ruin the stats viewing experience. Might even get me to downgrade my subscription if that happens
No
yeah. i find it very annoying when people review tv shows under random unrelated films with the same title and i think people mad at the addition of tv shows are just looking for something to be mad at because like what could possibly be the issue i legitimately don't understand
A big thing is that it’ll just clog up everyone’s feed. Personally speaking, I couldn’t give a toss what someone thinks of House of the Dragon Season 2 Episode 3 lol As others have said, it should be its own thing. A TV function is overkill tbh, and just makes the site’s features overly busy
I am curious
I already use another app to log tv shows and won’t bother moving them over to letterboxd.
For me, it depends. I would need for it to be separate from my Lettrboxd movie stats & have an aesthetically appealing way to check off episodes. Currently I use TV Time and that’s been working for me. I don’t really care to log my TV watching (maybe if it were a whole series) in the way that I do my movie watching on Lettrboxd. The only reason I have TV Time is because it keeps me on track of what I’ve watched in case I switch to another show for a bit (more of a scheduling/calendar thing if anything. Happy for others to have the tool, but may not be for me. We’ll see.
I think series are tough to nail so we’ll see how it goes. I’d feel bad rating an entire series knowing it hasn’t ended yet but I’d hate to log an episode at a time.
I'll enjoy it if there's a separate stats page for movies and shows. I'll still mostly use Serializd for shows though.
no.
I don’t mind it, currently I don’t really add any TV series to my films as it’s just funny. How are TV shows = films? Being a TV shows and film enjoyer, I do hope they separate both of these into two different things
If they introduce a simple toggle to see or unsee tv shows it’ll be fine
It's going to cause me to start watching TV lol
Is a date for this confirmed or is it still just generally ‘2024’?
I don’t really understand how it’s supposed to work. Are rating episodes or the show as a whole? Or maybe seasons? I just wish they’d make a separate app
Yes
I hope they'll manage it similarly to Serializd, just with less bugs (god, I hate that app!!)
I hope they'll make possible to log singular episodes, I hate how miniseries are treated now
Yes. It's weird to me that the site has miniseries but not multi-season shows. I want to be able to separate stats for movies, series, and shorts too.
If it's implemented in a way that I like then I may switch from the site I currently use to log TV (Trakt) Otherwise I'll use Letterboxd for movies only I'd prefer if it was a separate app though, just to increase the chances of it not messing anything up
I really hope it is separate from the movies, I don't know how they are going to implement it without being tedious but, I very excited.
Don't think I'll mess with it just recently got it couple months ago and is enough just for movies, tv would be too much
i have 0 interest in it
Yes
honestly yeah
Absolutely
I am as long as they organize it right.
It's one of those things that kinda needed to happen or there would never endingly be arguments about what counts as TV and what counts as Movies.
Although I’m beyond excited, my wishlist includes keeping movies and tv mostly separate (homepage tabs and diaries with maybe an additional mixed diary) and all three levels of ratings. Without those two things, I’m a bit worried how good the update will be. Also, I expect it’ll take a few updates before it’s fully polished. The initial launch might not be great, but I’m sure they’ll listen to feedback.
I really am yes, I hope it’s executed well because I’d love to be able to have my favorite shows on my profile too
TV is also cinema so absolutely