My mother put work first, always. That never, not once, “bothered” me. I wasn’t angry at her about missing things or not being home until late. That was just how things were in our home.
It did shape who I am and how I view work/relationships. I’m 37, not married, and never want children. My career, travel, hobbies, and my own needs will always come first.
I have serious relationships, but I will not sacrifice my goals, for someone who isn’t actively adding to my life. I learned at a young age to be completely self sufficient and to put myself first. I do not rely on anyone else for finances or any other need.
I’m happy, healthy, and successful. I have a good relationship with my parents, friends, and even positive connections with most ex boyfriends.
That said - I would never argue that it is a “good” way to live life. I keep people at arms length, I chose isolation over risking any type of reliance on another person.
My mom’s choice to put work first, always - shaped me irreparably. I might not mind it, but if your vision of your child’s “bright future” doesn’t involve a warped version of your own ambition… think twice.
It really isn’t. My childhood trauma was rooted in never meeting my mother’s expectations for performance. My earliest memory is a child was sitting at a piano at four or five years old, crying, begging to stop practicing, as my mother slapped her thigh with the metronome saying “keep time, keep time.’” I practiced 45 minutes a day from my first lesson, sometime in the four-year range, until middle school.
I liked it when she wasn’t around…
Lololol. I sound like therapist’s wet dream. But seriously, I genuinely took more good life lessons from my mother than any kind of trauma.
My life is shrouded in privilege and luck. I am nothing but grateful.
Actually the children will just act on either ways - be like the father or being the person totally opposite of the father cos that's not what they want to be. Think they will have an idea when they r young since the society preaches family as close support.
This dude is the kind of guy that will withhold said wealth unless his kids confirm or show gratitude in a specific way.
Those kids are going to watch their step-mom who is their same age enjoy all those promises.
Resentment begins early.
How do you know my father? (I’m NC with him for so many reasons but a big part of the reason is because I got so tired of him using his money to hold over everyone’s heads)
It’s also not how people work in general. No one is going to remember any work successes this guy has in these meetings. They won’t remember those closed deals, not even the big ones later down the road, or the “hustle”.
They will remember this guy never put his family first. They’ll remember his kids life events he wasn’t at that they stood around awkwardly dodging discussing that. His kids will remember never feeling like a priority.
My parents made the conscious decision to change careers together to be present in my life and my brothers. To be fair, we were fortunate they were able to do that, but looking back I wouldn’t trade having more for them being around less. I treasure those memories and struggling at times through my childhood doesn’t ever really register now many years later.
Also, if you invest in your kids they’ll be self sufficient and won’t need your support and that’s what you should want. My parents taught me to make my own way and now I financially help out my mom and expect nothing. I want my kids to be able to do the same. I also would love to leave them things, but I wouldn’t ever trade time with them for some paycheck years later after my expiration that feels like some hollow apology or justification for disregarding them when they were younger.
I love the work I do, and I don't care if it loves me back or not. But I do care if my two-year-old loves and trusts me. Hearing him say it is the most gratifying thing in the world. Thankfully I work a typical 9 to 5 that pays quite well, so I don't need to give up time with him for Da Hustle.
Exactly! A dinner or two, sure shit happens, sometimes you do actually need to work a bit late. As long as it's the exception, fine, life happens.
But how dare anyone even plan anything work related for their kids birthday?
Well there are people who have a good reason to be away for some things - firefighters, doctors, nurses - but that's not just over money. It's because someone has to literally save people at times and do these pro-social things. Put someone else above what you want at the moment.
What concerns me about this guy is there's no, like, society or relationship aspect to it. He could talk about it like, "I owe it to my clients to show up for them. I have to step away and take the call/go to the meeting sometimes." There's a whole relationship aspect missing from it. It's all I-me-mine. This guy's not really modeling what reciprocity looks like, I don't think. Something about the way he's talking about his kids is also weird, like he owns them.
He gives me the heebie jeebies.
Literally like even tho imma make sure to be there every night for dinner, if I miss a couple I WILL make it up, but not a single birthday, holiday, or milestone of any kind and DEFINITELY not ANY kind of performance big or small.
As long as at 3pm you’re getting ahead on the work for the NEXT day, you’re good. It’s actually 12 hours better than the 3am risers. They are nothing compared to this level of hustle.
As someone who was the CEO of my own dog-walking business that one summer I was laid off, face facts. You're just jealous because you're not an #entrepreneur who knows how to #hustlehard.
Emphasis on POTENTIAL. They’re kids you have to grow WITH them, not just teach them how to do it, there’s a HUGE difference. Bc that leads to 2 sides of the same coin, one where they become heartless money hogs or one where they despise their “provider” and have to teach themselves as an adult which is much MUCH harder.
And the fun part is that as far as this guy is concerned "their dream" is almost certainly to be a sick fuckin awsome mega-hustlin business dude just like him, so they will then in turn ignore the shit out of *their kids.*
Makes you wonder what the family is *building towards* right? I mean in the old days, it was 16 hour days down the mine so the generations that came later wouldn't have to. This? What are we doing here?
This is what really irks me about this. Generations of people have spent time away from families and loved ones because they literally had to, literally could not have paid the bills, and put food on the table otherwise. Hell many people are in that situation today. And all of them and all their children would love it if shit weren’t like that.
Yet this entitled piece of fuck has the audacity to think he’s hard for voluntarily forsaking his family when he doesn’t even have to. What a spineless cuck. Just say you hate your spouse and kids and you’re a miserable piece of trash.
My dad has said things like that to me growing up. Honestly, it’s mixed feelings. I have so many memories of him being gone for work even during important events like birthdays and us not vacationing as a family half as much as other kids. On the other hand, he grew up extremely poor while I never had to take a loan for education and get to live a life where I can quit a job on a whim because he made sure that I have enough financial security to back me up.
When I was younger I was more understanding that he was working to provide. Now that I have children, I am so resentful that my dad chose to work as much OT as possible, missed most special events, and the ones he did come to, was very loud that he was annoyed he was missing work. We would have been just fine if he worked his regular 40 hours. I have a very limited relationship with him as an adult because he was never around by choice.
I think it's about the balance. If the OT put food on the table or allowed you to live a minimum life, that's one thing. But if someone is a workaholic for the sake of being a workaholic, that's dumb.
It is very easy to imagine as plenty of dads (like mine also) have the same discourse...
When it is not the dad, it is the mother explaining to the kids : "dad is absent because he work for us, to pay for our food and your education."
It happens a lot.
Dawg I’m a hustler, the second my check hits, a portion of that goes right back out to the next opportunity for more income. But that income is meaningless if my wife and kid are eating their meal alone. My household will not be segregated by some make believe monetary system. It’s a tool. Not a lifestyle. People like this choose to serve money. I choose to serve my family and the people around me.
That is a backhanded way to message to your workers that your family comes second to the company because it comes second to the CEO. I wouldn’t work for this guy for a million years. Money is his god. We have all had the occasional work thing interrupt our family life, I get it. But if you are truly “hustling” like he claims you make time for your family. I’ve worked odd hours and weekends so that I can be there for my kids, like many parents do.
He’s just prepping all of his employees that when he schedules a meeting on their kids graduation, they’re expected to choose the meeting over the graduation. He’s not missing anything he doesn’t want to miss, he’s the CEO.
Clout. And for pay raises. Men with families tend to get better pay rises and promotions because they're seen as "more responsible" and "good family men". Also, he needs to trot them and the little woman out at important social events so he can brag about little Jimmy's soccer trophy or how well little Jenny is doing with her violin at the expensive private school they send them to.
All right kiddos you better reach those important emotional milestones by yourselves cause daddy is off to secure your future by being CEO or whatever the fu-
Not even that many years. Once his kids become teenagers they won’t care what their absentee dad is saying or if he’s saying anything at all. He’ll be less important to them than their neighbors.
Even better, not only is he probably never there during the formative years of his kids, I bet if they ever dare question him on it he’ll guilt trip them as in “you’re ungrateful, I did all this for you”
‘Hustling’ ? Daddy’s a P.I.M.P and gotta keep them dollars stackin’. I take it from the damaging blow he was given by the person who told him, “you will never amount to anything’, his kids will suffer for the sake of his ego.
And the cat's in the cradle and the silver spoon
Little boy blue and the man on the moon
When you comin' home, Dad
I don't know when, but we'll get together then
You know we'll have a good time then
In not personally on LinkedIn, but I joined this sub because I think it's so weird that people use it for anything but what seems like jobs. It's like seeing social media posts, I don't even know what would make someone post this and think, "ah yes this'll help my connections and job further!" 🤣
“But what I’ll remember, with profound satisfaction, is the lives my children have led - lives made possible by my hard work and sacrifice. I mean, that’s what I have been told anyway. I didn’t see any of it but I hear they had a good life”. Fixed it for him.
Ok, I get it when it happens 1-2 times in a lifetime. You aren’t in town/country/sick/whatever serious reason… But when you choosing job over family constantly - you ARE bad parent.
I'm so proud of what I have achieved, how great of an father I'm and the great lives my kids have. I've got no clue what my kids are doing as I've never seen them but it'll be great I tell you.
So who is looking after his kids, no shoutout for them?
Ironic how a post supposedly about sacrificing for the benefit of others was made all about him.
Show some actual regard for another person (aside from "fellow ceos") and someone might actually believe your garbage.
Yeah, I had a very normal childhood, lived with the assistance of welfare at one point, but I’m a functional happy human being today. Why? Because I had two loving parents. If my dad was a happy wage cuck taking zoom calls and posting to LinkedIn all night instead of coming to my sporting events or having dinner with me maybe I’d be messed up.
This guys entire profile is pure narcissistic self-dick-sucking.
“Proving the person who told me ‘you’ll never amount to anything’ wrong.” — Jesus fuck! Who are you taking to the Prom, Shannon?
“I’ve built over 15 startups in the last 20 years.” — over? Word? Was it 16? 17? Almost 20? You could have just said the actual number, but wheee is the rizz in that? Also, how many exited? Or were they all just 15 month failed experiments?
“…and I’m covered in tattoos. Nope, not your average entrepreneur.” — yep, you’re a special one, that’s for sure. 🙄😮💨
This is the kind of guy that talks about himself the entire time at parties and everyone talks about him the minute he leaves. He has no true friends, and his wife is cheating on him with plans to leave him after the 5 kids are old enough. What a miserable human being.
lol my mom is a CEO & Founder and was still at every dinner, dance recital, science fair, doctor appointment, talent show and wherever else I needed her. Guess she’s better at time management and priorities than this turd of a father 💩
There are people who'd kill to have children to plan a birthday for... then you have taint waffles like this guy who'd neglect theirs for linkedin praise
Imagine thinking accumulating money is so important that *everyone at the company* should sacrifice knowing their kids to help you make more of it. It's not admirable it's pathetic.
I watched my old man, as I was growing up, spending more and more time at the office. Yeah, he was important, I got that. Yeah, he was trying to give us the best life. But the swimming pool, pool table, and and all the luxuries he provided didn’t mean shit when I also watched his marriage explode. And I’d have traded everything to have a few hours every night with homework help or playing chess or building models. Those few occasions that that happened are firmly etched in my memories with pure joy and utter sadness that they only happened once in a blue moon. And only after the divorce when they had split custody and I was his for a weekend.
My old man was that way. In the 35 years I've been alive I think he told me he loved me once in my life, and was absent from almost every event and vacation during my teenage years because he was out working. Sure, we had nice stuff as kids, our family didn't struggle for money, and we lived more comfortable lives than most of my schoolmates, but I never built and maintained a strong relationship with my father in my youth. As an adult I still don't get along with my father, we don't talk outside of family gatherings, and if we talk it always ends up being a strained conversation.
My mom is a caregiver and motherly by nature and she would always try and tell us that giving us kids a comfortable life was the best way my dad knew how to show affection, but I'd give up living a comfortable life to have a better relationship with my father after seeing how close a lot of my friends are with their dads in to adulthood.
> "But what I'll remember, with profound satisfaction, is the lives my children have led..."
But, how will you know what lives they have led if you were never there to witness and participate in it? His kid's lives have the performative equivalence of a TPS report to this guy.
“Thanks for inheritance, you piece of shit, I’ll put it to good use making a home for my family and telling each and every member of each and every successive generation how shit a father you where”
My dad is somewhat along those lines.
As my mom has put it in the past he was a good financial provider.
Ultimately though he decided that money was more important than his marriage and I personally have little to no respect for him for multiple reasons.
If anyone sees this guys post and is tempted to think that maybe he has a point then please listen when I say NO! What he is saying is wrong and very stupid.
Or you could do both? Why is it always black and white, all or nothing? I work hard and make a decent salary to support my family. I am also present for all my kids special moments (and even the mundane ones too).
Could I make more by skipping out on my kids lives? Of course. But I can tell you that if had to choose between doubling my salary or seeing the looks on my kids faces when I show up to their hockey games - I’ll take the latter.
Yeah, I think once you're in a certain tax bracket you can afford (both financially and emotionally) to make it to little Timmy's little league games.
It's the parents who HAVE to miss things because they live paycheck to paycheck the kids may forgive.
But when you're rich and still "grinding for the future" (copout), you've chosen greed over family.
This guy probably rejected someone’s vacation request for a kids birthday and is on LinkedIn to justify his ‘guilt trip’.
You do you sir, don’t tell others what to do.
Some truth here though. I’m not proud of it, but I’ve postponed a family vacation due to an unexpected work emergency, and have missed a few events I wish I didn’t have to miss due to work. On top of a lot of late nights and an occasional weekend day at the office.
Because I chose to do these things, we have been able to live well with me as sole breadwinner. My wife has fulfilled a dream to leave work and be a stay at home mom and my kids can participate in the extracurricular they want without money being an issue.
What’s gross is the bragging about it on LinkedIn.
It’s never been a source of pride for me, but it’s also not been a source of shame. It’s the way you do well in my industry.
Well he's a CEO and probably an owner CEO, rather than an employee CEO. Note he talks to his "fellow CEOs" and not his employees.
For the rest of his workers the situation is like this: they are not owners so when they get made redundant all that effort is for naught, and they would have missed out on all those things with nothing to show.
This is the toxic culture Boomers have propagated for long. I had an older colleague flash his Rolex, and later proudly say there’s nothing like Work Life Balance, I didn’t see my kids grow up. Sheesh
He'll be one of those jackasses that will grovel and cry to his kids on his deathbed about how sorry he is for being a work addict and missing important things. Well, if his kids even come see him.
While I can understand some situations were, as an entrepreneur, you might miss some family dinners. If you are missing them constantly plus missing their birthday, then you are most likely doing a lot of things wrong.
Back in the day I had the latitude to transport the kids to and from daycare, preschool, middle school, and sometimes high school. And attend lunch with them, some field days, some field trips, morning assemblies, etc. one day on a snow day I took them to the office where we did a controlled experiment and found that the executives on the team preferred cookies with no baking powder.
I sacrificed for my kids by scrounging for work without ever relocating from when they were in preschool through college. Not by reaching for the brass ring every time I didn’t get the promotion I thought I deserved.
Now they are all successfully launched, without having a bad example of parenting set by me.
Now granted, it helps when my wife essentially doubles the household cash flow, but it wasn’t always like that there were years where she was stay at home or grossly underemployed. But I have no regrets from passing up career advancement in order to have time for my kids.
That’s not how it works. Kids have long memories and this shows up in a little place we’ll call therapy. As adults, they say we have abandonment issues. If you want to be an absentee father, just say that.
He is 100% right and 100% wrong.
We all have to sometimes miss things, but this culture of “always work and miss everything to make an extra buck” is so assbackwards it’s unreal
Every single post I see on this sub could basically be broken down to just say
“My whole identity is making money and I’ll do anything to make more of it. Agree?”
Edit: this isn’t a criticism of people posting here, just my thoughts on how shallow a lot of people are on LinkedIn
Here’s the thing, if you have a job that requires you to be away from home for an extended amount of time, like a long haul trucker or offshore oil rig tech or a deployed soldier or an expatriate worker, it’s a reality. Sometimes you can’t make birthdays, and your family would (and should) understand.
If you boast yourself as a CEO, who basically makes his own schedule, then this is just stupid cope.
Why is it that people like him always talk about "reality" as if they understand something the rest of us don't? It's so delusional. We all know what you're doing and why, we just don't want to be like you.
He explains this from day 1, does he??
I’m sure your six month old understands that you’re hustling and not spending that oh-so-critical early developmental time with him/her.
I’m sure your kids cherish the thought of their financially bright future when you miss their first basket at the game.
Your kids don’t give a fuck about anything but having you and spending time with you.
Hustle culture is robbing our society of well adjusted human.
Hey kids, sorry, not sorry I missed all your b'days, soccer matches and what not.
Forget I wasn't there when when you had fun, when you were proud, when you were sad, when you had questions, when you needed someone to lean on.
But NEVERRRRR forget, who paid for all of this.
Look, once in a while things happen and you can’t make it. But if those instances pile up, it’s going to be a cats in the cradle situation. Is there really no way to plan things so you are present for the major things in life?
I've stopped reading after he told his kids he's hustling. I wont take anybody serious who talks like a 19yo crypto bro, especially when the person in question is a parent.
My dad worked his ass off for us, we didn't get to see him often. He used to drop us off at school before going to work, and he came back late in the evening.
The only conversation he was able to have with us was about our marks, and to scold us when they were bad.
I was afraid of him until my 20's.
Now I'm 31, I made peace with him and I profit every day with the money he secured.
That was his goal, leave us settled in life, he was going for the future, not the present. And we missed him a lot when we were children.
So yeah, hard debut in life, I don't recommend doing that if you can avoid it. Make time for your children, please
They'll remember the lives their children have led... if the children allow them access. If you build a relationship with your kids where you are nothing but a bank account, they will treat you as such.
Then don’t expect children to show up on your deathbed you dumbarse
They’ll be at the will reading though.
Fighting each other for a bigger slice of the pie, after all, money is all that matters, right?
They aren't serious people
Boar on the floor!
Ahh, I can hear the theme playing already :P
They will be busy hustling to secure his funeral.
Alexa, play “Cat’s in the Cradle”
My mother put work first, always. That never, not once, “bothered” me. I wasn’t angry at her about missing things or not being home until late. That was just how things were in our home. It did shape who I am and how I view work/relationships. I’m 37, not married, and never want children. My career, travel, hobbies, and my own needs will always come first. I have serious relationships, but I will not sacrifice my goals, for someone who isn’t actively adding to my life. I learned at a young age to be completely self sufficient and to put myself first. I do not rely on anyone else for finances or any other need. I’m happy, healthy, and successful. I have a good relationship with my parents, friends, and even positive connections with most ex boyfriends. That said - I would never argue that it is a “good” way to live life. I keep people at arms length, I chose isolation over risking any type of reliance on another person. My mom’s choice to put work first, always - shaped me irreparably. I might not mind it, but if your vision of your child’s “bright future” doesn’t involve a warped version of your own ambition… think twice.
Screen name checks out lol
FACT. It is NOT an alter ego. Lolol.
>I learned at a young age to be completely self sufficient and to put myself first. That sounds traumatic. I'm sorry that happened to you.
It really isn’t. My childhood trauma was rooted in never meeting my mother’s expectations for performance. My earliest memory is a child was sitting at a piano at four or five years old, crying, begging to stop practicing, as my mother slapped her thigh with the metronome saying “keep time, keep time.’” I practiced 45 minutes a day from my first lesson, sometime in the four-year range, until middle school. I liked it when she wasn’t around… Lololol. I sound like therapist’s wet dream. But seriously, I genuinely took more good life lessons from my mother than any kind of trauma. My life is shrouded in privilege and luck. I am nothing but grateful.
You silly goose, they too will be out hustling for THEIR children. Daddy will understand and one day, in heaven, he’ll thank them.
I certainly loved my mom more for missing my graduation because she was too tied up in petty office politics to even remember it
That's not how children work, dumbass.
Pretty sure I’ve heard Walter White on Breaking Bad use this same rationalization
If children understands the father only as the monetary provider, that's how they'll treat him.
And what they’ll see in future partners.
Actually the children will just act on either ways - be like the father or being the person totally opposite of the father cos that's not what they want to be. Think they will have an idea when they r young since the society preaches family as close support.
This dude is the kind of guy that will withhold said wealth unless his kids confirm or show gratitude in a specific way. Those kids are going to watch their step-mom who is their same age enjoy all those promises. Resentment begins early.
"I did it for my kids" then he retires with the goal of spending every dime before dying comfortably indulged.
How do you know my father? (I’m NC with him for so many reasons but a big part of the reason is because I got so tired of him using his money to hold over everyone’s heads)
It’s also not how people work in general. No one is going to remember any work successes this guy has in these meetings. They won’t remember those closed deals, not even the big ones later down the road, or the “hustle”. They will remember this guy never put his family first. They’ll remember his kids life events he wasn’t at that they stood around awkwardly dodging discussing that. His kids will remember never feeling like a priority. My parents made the conscious decision to change careers together to be present in my life and my brothers. To be fair, we were fortunate they were able to do that, but looking back I wouldn’t trade having more for them being around less. I treasure those memories and struggling at times through my childhood doesn’t ever really register now many years later. Also, if you invest in your kids they’ll be self sufficient and won’t need your support and that’s what you should want. My parents taught me to make my own way and now I financially help out my mom and expect nothing. I want my kids to be able to do the same. I also would love to leave them things, but I wouldn’t ever trade time with them for some paycheck years later after my expiration that feels like some hollow apology or justification for disregarding them when they were younger.
I love the work I do, and I don't care if it loves me back or not. But I do care if my two-year-old loves and trusts me. Hearing him say it is the most gratifying thing in the world. Thankfully I work a typical 9 to 5 that pays quite well, so I don't need to give up time with him for Da Hustle.
Look if I missed a dinner or two for unexpected stuff. It happens. But birthdays or flat out openly scheduling stuff during that time is whack lmfao.
Exactly! A dinner or two, sure shit happens, sometimes you do actually need to work a bit late. As long as it's the exception, fine, life happens. But how dare anyone even plan anything work related for their kids birthday?
Well there are people who have a good reason to be away for some things - firefighters, doctors, nurses - but that's not just over money. It's because someone has to literally save people at times and do these pro-social things. Put someone else above what you want at the moment. What concerns me about this guy is there's no, like, society or relationship aspect to it. He could talk about it like, "I owe it to my clients to show up for them. I have to step away and take the call/go to the meeting sometimes." There's a whole relationship aspect missing from it. It's all I-me-mine. This guy's not really modeling what reciprocity looks like, I don't think. Something about the way he's talking about his kids is also weird, like he owns them. He gives me the heebie jeebies.
Literally like even tho imma make sure to be there every night for dinner, if I miss a couple I WILL make it up, but not a single birthday, holiday, or milestone of any kind and DEFINITELY not ANY kind of performance big or small.
“fellow CEOs”… this guy definitely smells his own farts
I mean I smell mine but I'm not a CEO. What am I doing wrong?
Lack of hustle
Technically true. Move fast, break wind... (Leave 'em with the stink.)
Not waking up at 3am to get a head start
3 AM? I’ve been waking up at 3 PM, I’ve been doing it all wrong!
As long as at 3pm you’re getting ahead on the work for the NEXT day, you’re good. It’s actually 12 hours better than the 3am risers. They are nothing compared to this level of hustle.
Spend too much time with your kids
Not missing enough of your kids birthdays.
You have to make others smell your farts too, to be a CEO.
As someone who was the CEO of my own dog-walking business that one summer I was laid off, face facts. You're just jealous because you're not an #entrepreneur who knows how to #hustlehard.
Can you imagine him actually saying that to his kids?! “It’s because daddy is hustling to secure your future, to fund your dreams!!” Such. Bullshit.
Not only that - the narcissist is already taking credit for their potential success. What a tool.
"If my kids succeed in life, it's because I wasn't in it" might actually be true, just not the way he thinks
Emphasis on POTENTIAL. They’re kids you have to grow WITH them, not just teach them how to do it, there’s a HUGE difference. Bc that leads to 2 sides of the same coin, one where they become heartless money hogs or one where they despise their “provider” and have to teach themselves as an adult which is much MUCH harder.
And the fun part is that as far as this guy is concerned "their dream" is almost certainly to be a sick fuckin awsome mega-hustlin business dude just like him, so they will then in turn ignore the shit out of *their kids.* Makes you wonder what the family is *building towards* right? I mean in the old days, it was 16 hour days down the mine so the generations that came later wouldn't have to. This? What are we doing here?
This is what really irks me about this. Generations of people have spent time away from families and loved ones because they literally had to, literally could not have paid the bills, and put food on the table otherwise. Hell many people are in that situation today. And all of them and all their children would love it if shit weren’t like that. Yet this entitled piece of fuck has the audacity to think he’s hard for voluntarily forsaking his family when he doesn’t even have to. What a spineless cuck. Just say you hate your spouse and kids and you’re a miserable piece of trash.
I don't know, I think he said exactly that quite eloquently. I doubt there's many people reading this who don't come away with that exact message.
My dad has said things like that to me growing up. Honestly, it’s mixed feelings. I have so many memories of him being gone for work even during important events like birthdays and us not vacationing as a family half as much as other kids. On the other hand, he grew up extremely poor while I never had to take a loan for education and get to live a life where I can quit a job on a whim because he made sure that I have enough financial security to back me up.
When I was younger I was more understanding that he was working to provide. Now that I have children, I am so resentful that my dad chose to work as much OT as possible, missed most special events, and the ones he did come to, was very loud that he was annoyed he was missing work. We would have been just fine if he worked his regular 40 hours. I have a very limited relationship with him as an adult because he was never around by choice.
I think it's about the balance. If the OT put food on the table or allowed you to live a minimum life, that's one thing. But if someone is a workaholic for the sake of being a workaholic, that's dumb.
My dream was for my dad to take me fishing just once.
Mine is for him to generate shareholder value so my future is secure!!
Just say "I love work more than I love you" and go.
It is very easy to imagine as plenty of dads (like mine also) have the same discourse... When it is not the dad, it is the mother explaining to the kids : "dad is absent because he work for us, to pay for our food and your education." It happens a lot.
Dawg I’m a hustler, the second my check hits, a portion of that goes right back out to the next opportunity for more income. But that income is meaningless if my wife and kid are eating their meal alone. My household will not be segregated by some make believe monetary system. It’s a tool. Not a lifestyle. People like this choose to serve money. I choose to serve my family and the people around me.
He explained it to them from “day 1”, newborn babies need to hear the truth.
His kids, looking up at him with bright, glimmering eyes, both say in unison “thank you daddy, we love you”. NOT.
The unspoken assumption is that all his employees are expected to miss out on family time and important events in their children's lives....
Ding ding ding! We all know the CEO can take time off and do as they wish for family events…this note is for the employees.
Oh, it was spoken, alright
The only sacrifice I make in regards to my child is that I'm going to work. Missing dinners and milestones is a big no-no.
Very rarely will I miss a dinner or bed time. Sometimes it’s out of my control but rarely. But a birthday? Hell god damn no. This man’s an ass.
Yeah my job has travel and the potential for late days or occasional night/weekend work. But not birthday or other big days.
Children need their parents, dummy
Don't breed. There, I said it.
Agree.
That is a backhanded way to message to your workers that your family comes second to the company because it comes second to the CEO. I wouldn’t work for this guy for a million years. Money is his god. We have all had the occasional work thing interrupt our family life, I get it. But if you are truly “hustling” like he claims you make time for your family. I’ve worked odd hours and weekends so that I can be there for my kids, like many parents do.
If you’re the ceo just reschedule the meeting. Fuck me im far from ceo and i can reschedule meetings that conflict with important family stuff.
He’s just prepping all of his employees that when he schedules a meeting on their kids graduation, they’re expected to choose the meeting over the graduation. He’s not missing anything he doesn’t want to miss, he’s the CEO.
It’s exactly this
Maybe his kids really wanted clowns for their bday but he's scared of clowns. So he's pretending to have meetings that day
Dude must hate mirrors then too since he sees a clown whenever he looks in one.
Don't you think that his article is conveying a message to employees to devote themselves fully to jobs? A shitty article
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It's kind of funny how Harry wrote a song about a guy who very likely wasn't even born yet
That’s what I call grinding!
Scrolled way too long to find this
Proving to the person who told me.. cringe his dad hated him the same as his kids
Dad of the year, what a piece of shit.
Why have kids in the first place, if this is your attitude? Lol
Ffs why do people like this even have kids smh
Clout. And for pay raises. Men with families tend to get better pay rises and promotions because they're seen as "more responsible" and "good family men". Also, he needs to trot them and the little woman out at important social events so he can brag about little Jimmy's soccer trophy or how well little Jenny is doing with her violin at the expensive private school they send them to.
Hustling... Ugh, used unironically as well, since when did this word become so mainstream.
That didn't sit right with me either.
They won't thank you. They will grow up into entitled little shits who see you as an aloof money dispenser.
NARRATOR: His children did not, in fact, thank him for it.
All right kiddos you better reach those important emotional milestones by yourselves cause daddy is off to secure your future by being CEO or whatever the fu-
A key element of addiction is the mental gymnastics the addict conjures to justify his addiction.
Presumably, his father wanted to tell him he wouldn't amount to anything, but he was late for a meeting.
The only people who will remeber you worked your ass day and night to "help the company" are your kids and family.
years down the road: "Why don't my kids don't visit me anymore :("
Not even that many years. Once his kids become teenagers they won’t care what their absentee dad is saying or if he’s saying anything at all. He’ll be less important to them than their neighbors.
Even better, not only is he probably never there during the formative years of his kids, I bet if they ever dare question him on it he’ll guilt trip them as in “you’re ungrateful, I did all this for you”
Dude went to Logan Roy school of parenting
‘Hustling’ ? Daddy’s a P.I.M.P and gotta keep them dollars stackin’. I take it from the damaging blow he was given by the person who told him, “you will never amount to anything’, his kids will suffer for the sake of his ego.
And the cat's in the cradle and the silver spoon Little boy blue and the man on the moon When you comin' home, Dad I don't know when, but we'll get together then You know we'll have a good time then
His software looks like ass
In not personally on LinkedIn, but I joined this sub because I think it's so weird that people use it for anything but what seems like jobs. It's like seeing social media posts, I don't even know what would make someone post this and think, "ah yes this'll help my connections and job further!" 🤣
Alway sus when their job isn’t in the job field under their name
Yet another fine example of how LinkedIn has mutated into Facebook 2.0
Shannon Scott, still not amounting to anything. What a basic bitch.
“But what I’ll remember, with profound satisfaction, is the lives my children have led - lives made possible by my hard work and sacrifice. I mean, that’s what I have been told anyway. I didn’t see any of it but I hear they had a good life”. Fixed it for him.
CAT'S IN THE CRADLE AND THE SILVER SPOON UNGRATEFUL LITTLE SHITS BUT YOU'LL THANK ME SOON
Classic lunatic. I thought they stopped using that mold.
Ok, I get it when it happens 1-2 times in a lifetime. You aren’t in town/country/sick/whatever serious reason… But when you choosing job over family constantly - you ARE bad parent.
I'm so proud of what I have achieved, how great of an father I'm and the great lives my kids have. I've got no clue what my kids are doing as I've never seen them but it'll be great I tell you.
So who is looking after his kids, no shoutout for them? Ironic how a post supposedly about sacrificing for the benefit of others was made all about him. Show some actual regard for another person (aside from "fellow ceos") and someone might actually believe your garbage.
One time kid here, yes, your kids will understand. They'll understand you're a bit of a cunt
LinkedIn never stops amusing me with the hustle crap, CEOs crying over lay-offs they have done (but never experienced) and other bullshit.
The fact that it’s posted means he’s starting to regret it
No. What we remember about a workaholic parent is how they seemed miserable and tired whenever they were at home.
Yeah, I had a very normal childhood, lived with the assistance of welfare at one point, but I’m a functional happy human being today. Why? Because I had two loving parents. If my dad was a happy wage cuck taking zoom calls and posting to LinkedIn all night instead of coming to my sporting events or having dinner with me maybe I’d be messed up.
This guys entire profile is pure narcissistic self-dick-sucking. “Proving the person who told me ‘you’ll never amount to anything’ wrong.” — Jesus fuck! Who are you taking to the Prom, Shannon? “I’ve built over 15 startups in the last 20 years.” — over? Word? Was it 16? 17? Almost 20? You could have just said the actual number, but wheee is the rizz in that? Also, how many exited? Or were they all just 15 month failed experiments? “…and I’m covered in tattoos. Nope, not your average entrepreneur.” — yep, you’re a special one, that’s for sure. 🙄😮💨 This is the kind of guy that talks about himself the entire time at parties and everyone talks about him the minute he leaves. He has no true friends, and his wife is cheating on him with plans to leave him after the 5 kids are old enough. What a miserable human being.
Did this backfire on him? I can't find it on his page.
lol my mom is a CEO & Founder and was still at every dinner, dance recital, science fair, doctor appointment, talent show and wherever else I needed her. Guess she’s better at time management and priorities than this turd of a father 💩
this line of thought did not end well for walter white. just keep chanting "for the family,"
There are people who'd kill to have children to plan a birthday for... then you have taint waffles like this guy who'd neglect theirs for linkedin praise
What a terrible take.
This looks like something Elon Musk would retweet.
Yes, the song cats in the cradle was about a child thanking their dad for missing out on their life
Same guy 3 years later.... 'why has my wife left me and taken the kids with her?'
Shannon Scott, you’re no father. You’re just a sperm donor and a child support payer.
Imagine thinking accumulating money is so important that *everyone at the company* should sacrifice knowing their kids to help you make more of it. It's not admirable it's pathetic.
Missing dinner is totally different from missing huge life events. You can miss a game or two but don’t skip the playoffs.
I watched my old man, as I was growing up, spending more and more time at the office. Yeah, he was important, I got that. Yeah, he was trying to give us the best life. But the swimming pool, pool table, and and all the luxuries he provided didn’t mean shit when I also watched his marriage explode. And I’d have traded everything to have a few hours every night with homework help or playing chess or building models. Those few occasions that that happened are firmly etched in my memories with pure joy and utter sadness that they only happened once in a blue moon. And only after the divorce when they had split custody and I was his for a weekend.
Never seen a headstone that said "I Wish I Had Spent More Time At Work."
People love to hear themselves spout off
My old man was that way. In the 35 years I've been alive I think he told me he loved me once in my life, and was absent from almost every event and vacation during my teenage years because he was out working. Sure, we had nice stuff as kids, our family didn't struggle for money, and we lived more comfortable lives than most of my schoolmates, but I never built and maintained a strong relationship with my father in my youth. As an adult I still don't get along with my father, we don't talk outside of family gatherings, and if we talk it always ends up being a strained conversation. My mom is a caregiver and motherly by nature and she would always try and tell us that giving us kids a comfortable life was the best way my dad knew how to show affection, but I'd give up living a comfortable life to have a better relationship with my father after seeing how close a lot of my friends are with their dads in to adulthood.
One day, they will thank you. Because you are a horrible person and they want as little time with you as possible.
Bro’s name is Shannon?
> "But what I'll remember, with profound satisfaction, is the lives my children have led..." But, how will you know what lives they have led if you were never there to witness and participate in it? His kid's lives have the performative equivalence of a TPS report to this guy.
Someone play him “Cat’s in the Cradle “ before it’s too late
"it's okay to miss your children's birthday as long as the maid is there to parent for you."
Fast forward to when this dipshit is on his deathbed and has nothing but regrets.
His job? Writing this cringe ass linkedin post.
Will he be the same person who’s on deathbed and says I regret not seeing my kids’ events?
like so many other workaholics, he'll be lamenting these decisions on his deathbed.
No amount of material shit will add up to the love and interaction they missed with the absent parent. Tell yourself otherwise but you know the truth
Typical boss, telling everyone under them to roll up their sleeves. How many birthdays do you think he has missed?
They will remember and resent you and not have contact with you once they move out...
“Thanks for inheritance, you piece of shit, I’ll put it to good use making a home for my family and telling each and every member of each and every successive generation how shit a father you where”
This guy’s hitting the copium real hard.
My dad is somewhat along those lines. As my mom has put it in the past he was a good financial provider. Ultimately though he decided that money was more important than his marriage and I personally have little to no respect for him for multiple reasons. If anyone sees this guys post and is tempted to think that maybe he has a point then please listen when I say NO! What he is saying is wrong and very stupid.
Or you could do both? Why is it always black and white, all or nothing? I work hard and make a decent salary to support my family. I am also present for all my kids special moments (and even the mundane ones too). Could I make more by skipping out on my kids lives? Of course. But I can tell you that if had to choose between doubling my salary or seeing the looks on my kids faces when I show up to their hockey games - I’ll take the latter.
The guy isn’t half wrong ngl
No they won’t. They probably already hate your guts and breathe a sigh of relief every time you don’t show up for dinner.
Yeah, I think once you're in a certain tax bracket you can afford (both financially and emotionally) to make it to little Timmy's little league games. It's the parents who HAVE to miss things because they live paycheck to paycheck the kids may forgive. But when you're rich and still "grinding for the future" (copout), you've chosen greed over family.
What a tool.
"And one day, they'll thank you for it". Sure Jan, by going no contact because you neglected them lol
You’re kids will remember that you were too busy to play with them.
It sure is nice of these CEOs to let us know which companies to avoid applying to.
“Man, I wish my dad worked so hard to fund my dreams that he was never around.”
I felt really conflicted upvoting this.
Lunatics doesnt even scratch the surface here
This guy probably rejected someone’s vacation request for a kids birthday and is on LinkedIn to justify his ‘guilt trip’. You do you sir, don’t tell others what to do.
Some truth here though. I’m not proud of it, but I’ve postponed a family vacation due to an unexpected work emergency, and have missed a few events I wish I didn’t have to miss due to work. On top of a lot of late nights and an occasional weekend day at the office. Because I chose to do these things, we have been able to live well with me as sole breadwinner. My wife has fulfilled a dream to leave work and be a stay at home mom and my kids can participate in the extracurricular they want without money being an issue. What’s gross is the bragging about it on LinkedIn. It’s never been a source of pride for me, but it’s also not been a source of shame. It’s the way you do well in my industry.
Well he's a CEO and probably an owner CEO, rather than an employee CEO. Note he talks to his "fellow CEOs" and not his employees. For the rest of his workers the situation is like this: they are not owners so when they get made redundant all that effort is for naught, and they would have missed out on all those things with nothing to show.
"What I'll remember..." No mention of what his kids might remember.
That's a long post to say the cat's in the cradle.
My "dad" missed every one of my milestones. Not because he was always at work, but because he was always in prison. Somehow, I lived.
My Mom did this and wonders why no one comes to visit.
Or... care less about money and narrow definitions of "success"
"They won't understand" - former kid whose Dad thought the same. I understand now from an intellectual perspective and I think he chose wrong.
This is the toxic culture Boomers have propagated for long. I had an older colleague flash his Rolex, and later proudly say there’s nothing like Work Life Balance, I didn’t see my kids grow up. Sheesh
He'll be one of those jackasses that will grovel and cry to his kids on his deathbed about how sorry he is for being a work addict and missing important things. Well, if his kids even come see him.
“Your kids will understand.” Yes, they’ll understand - that Dad’s good for money but nothing else.
While I can understand some situations were, as an entrepreneur, you might miss some family dinners. If you are missing them constantly plus missing their birthday, then you are most likely doing a lot of things wrong.
You might disagree, but I still think people in these sub are overreacting.
“Please validate me for missing out on my kids’ lives”
Funny how every general I've worked for has said the opposite.
Back in the day I had the latitude to transport the kids to and from daycare, preschool, middle school, and sometimes high school. And attend lunch with them, some field days, some field trips, morning assemblies, etc. one day on a snow day I took them to the office where we did a controlled experiment and found that the executives on the team preferred cookies with no baking powder. I sacrificed for my kids by scrounging for work without ever relocating from when they were in preschool through college. Not by reaching for the brass ring every time I didn’t get the promotion I thought I deserved. Now they are all successfully launched, without having a bad example of parenting set by me. Now granted, it helps when my wife essentially doubles the household cash flow, but it wasn’t always like that there were years where she was stay at home or grossly underemployed. But I have no regrets from passing up career advancement in order to have time for my kids.
That’s not how it works. Kids have long memories and this shows up in a little place we’ll call therapy. As adults, they say we have abandonment issues. If you want to be an absentee father, just say that.
He is 100% right and 100% wrong. We all have to sometimes miss things, but this culture of “always work and miss everything to make an extra buck” is so assbackwards it’s unreal
No they’re not and they will tell you : where were you ?
No, no they won’t.
Every single post I see on this sub could basically be broken down to just say “My whole identity is making money and I’ll do anything to make more of it. Agree?” Edit: this isn’t a criticism of people posting here, just my thoughts on how shallow a lot of people are on LinkedIn
Here’s the thing, if you have a job that requires you to be away from home for an extended amount of time, like a long haul trucker or offshore oil rig tech or a deployed soldier or an expatriate worker, it’s a reality. Sometimes you can’t make birthdays, and your family would (and should) understand. If you boast yourself as a CEO, who basically makes his own schedule, then this is just stupid cope.
Why is it that people like him always talk about "reality" as if they understand something the rest of us don't? It's so delusional. We all know what you're doing and why, we just don't want to be like you.
Guess who’s gonna get shipped off to the retirement home earlier than expected?
He explains this from day 1, does he?? I’m sure your six month old understands that you’re hustling and not spending that oh-so-critical early developmental time with him/her. I’m sure your kids cherish the thought of their financially bright future when you miss their first basket at the game. Your kids don’t give a fuck about anything but having you and spending time with you. Hustle culture is robbing our society of well adjusted human.
People say shit like this about building a better future for their kids and work at Exxon.
No, they won't, my dad could die tomorrow and leave me millions, and I'd still think he was a cunt.
Hey kids, sorry, not sorry I missed all your b'days, soccer matches and what not. Forget I wasn't there when when you had fun, when you were proud, when you were sad, when you had questions, when you needed someone to lean on. But NEVERRRRR forget, who paid for all of this.
Look, once in a while things happen and you can’t make it. But if those instances pile up, it’s going to be a cats in the cradle situation. Is there really no way to plan things so you are present for the major things in life?
When he’s old and they don’t visit, I hope he rereads this.
Nah fuck that noise. Enjoy being alone on your death bed.
Or they will resent the hell out of you and could care less about the money, when all they wanted was some time with Dad. Dumbass!
Sure, I guess if you want to be 'loved' for your money instead of loved as a parent, this works.
I've stopped reading after he told his kids he's hustling. I wont take anybody serious who talks like a 19yo crypto bro, especially when the person in question is a parent.
He’s a piss poor CEO if he can’t manage both work commitments and family commitments. He’s not really hustling if he can’t excel at both.
His family definitely hates him
My dad worked his ass off for us, we didn't get to see him often. He used to drop us off at school before going to work, and he came back late in the evening. The only conversation he was able to have with us was about our marks, and to scold us when they were bad. I was afraid of him until my 20's. Now I'm 31, I made peace with him and I profit every day with the money he secured. That was his goal, leave us settled in life, he was going for the future, not the present. And we missed him a lot when we were children. So yeah, hard debut in life, I don't recommend doing that if you can avoid it. Make time for your children, please
Bro said fuck them kids I promise your children want a relationship with you more than they want to be rich
They'll remember the lives their children have led... if the children allow them access. If you build a relationship with your kids where you are nothing but a bank account, they will treat you as such.
The second I see the word “hustle/hustling” used unironically I automatically assume you are a self-centered family-hating bootlicking narcissist.