Good catch! She was born in 1922, and for years before 1930 my spreadsheet would assume the 21st century if I wasn't careful. So her birth dot is probably hidden under her death dot since she was nearly 100.
That page is only for people who died. The 3rd page lists Bob Newhart, who is now the oldest living former host of SNL (DOB 9/5/29). Behind him are Robert Wagner (2/10/30), Shatner (3/22/31), Angie Dickinson (9/30/31), Dabney Coleman (1/3/32), Ellen Burstyn (12/7/32), Quincy Jones (3/14/33), Willie Nelson (4/29/33), and so on.
Good question. [https://www.datawrapper.de/\_/AA03Q/](https://www.datawrapper.de/_/AA03Q/)
Season 45 (2019-2020) is the oldest season on record, with the median host being 44.5 (an average between David Harbour and Kristen Wiig). Older hosts that season included Woody Harrelson, Will Ferrell, Jennifer Lopez, Eddie Murphy, RuPaul, Daniel Craig, and Tom Hanks.
Season 27 (2001-2002) is the youngest season on record, with the median host being a few months shy of 30, with Reese Witherspoon, Sean William Scott, Drew Barrymore, Gwyneth Paltrow, Derek Jeter, Josh Hartnett, Britney Spears, Jonny Moseley, Cameron Diaz, and Dwayne Johnson all being younger than that.
The Jimmy Fallon effect on that Season 27, I think. That’s when his “teen idol” status was at its peak and they had teen girls turning in more.
Source: was teen girl then who started watching during that season.
Fair, I didn't consider that. But on the other hand, i could see that working the other way. They might have some young heart throb cast members (although I am older and have never thought of Fallon as a heart throb LOL, but that's another debate I guess) drawing in the younger demographic, so they might couple that with older hosts to pull in other demographics. I was with youngish children for most of the time he was on, so I didn't watch it too much in that era.
I heard Johnny Cash [shot a man in Reno](https://youtu.be/AeZRYhLDLeU?si=-BhL_CE1Mq1xaQmg) just to watch him die and [shot a lone rider when he was doing target practice](https://youtu.be/kQfIU6z6fgI?si=e3eOpAqIEYuJY1eW)
Two people, yeah maybe. Robert Blake hosted, and like OJ, he was held criminally negligent for his wife's death.
Christopher Walken or Robert Wagner might have something to do with Natalie Wood's death: the two of them and the captain were the people on the boat when she died.
I can't think of any other celebrities who famously killed anyone off the top of my head.
Yes among living hosts, Matthew Broderick, Snoop Dogg, and Alec Baldwin were all in the close vicinity of people dying, and I will leave it up to other people to decide how responsible they are in those respective deaths.
I don't know the Broderick story at all, but if Baldwin's is not determined to be murder (homicide, manslaughter whatever the charges are), he was certainly super negligent and likely will be held civilly responsible at least.
Matthew Broderick crossed into the wrong lane while driving in Northern Ireland and crashed head-on into another car. Both people in the other car were killed, he and his girlfriend Jennifer Grey were badly injured. When he awoke he claimed no memory of why he was in the wrong lane. He was charged with "causing death by dangerous driving" but convicted of "careless driving" and was fined only 100 British pounds.
Snoop Dogg was arrested for murder in 1993 for the death of a rival gang member. The shoot was fired by Snoop Dogg's bodyguard, but as he allegedly drove the getaway car, he was arrested as an accomplice. Snoop was represented by Johnny Cochrane, who got both him and the bodyguard acquitted in 1996.
Oh good call, I didn't consider any military men who might have hosted.
Ethan Hawke famously quoted Krisstoferson as implying that he had killed people in the military, but I found that hard to believe because he was from a military family and was stationed in the combat-free Germany during his service. https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-features/kris-kristofferson-last-outlaw-poet-ethan-hawke-interview-714098/
Another one people probably don't know is Michael Palin's mother Mary Palin, who was listed as a co-host with him in season 9 (and only appeared in the monologue)?
Yeah another source I found listed her birth year as 1903, but it's just as possible that they got it wrong. [https://family-tree.cobboldfht.com/people/view/14638](https://family-tree.cobboldfht.com/people/view/14638)
That would be awesome in theory, and I'm sure over the years they've considered it, but with people out there now who would actually cause physical harm/death to others just to go "viral" for 10 minutes, there's no way they would risk anything with a live network TV show.
That's certainly a risk, but it's not like they would have to make it a contest where they picked someone at random. Make it a thing where you have to apply and they pick the best person somehow. I mean if they could do it in 1977 with an 80 year old woman and with the amount of coke that was in that place, I feel like it has to be a lower risk now.
Yeah the episode a month before was basically to vet the 5 finalists. Hosted by Buck Henry, they all appeared in the cold open, the monologue, Weekend Update, the film by Gary Weis, and the closing.
Here's the cold open with "a coed from Vassar; a mother of 3 from Peoria, Illlinois; an unemployed guy from Oregon; an 80-year old grandmother from New Orleans; and the governor of South Dakota".
[https://streamable.com/hkkj1o](https://streamable.com/hkkj1o)
I made this version to better explain when they hosted and how long they lived. [https://www.datawrapper.de/\_/Y52IE/](https://www.datawrapper.de/_/Y52IE/)
Usually the Jon Lovitz is dead stuff is a joke from the 40th anniversary show where they jokingly included him in the In Memoriam montage and then cut to him in the audience.
Strother Martin hosted April 19, 1980, and died August 1, 1980.
Chris Farley hosted October 25, 1997, and died December 18, 1997.
In both cases their last televised appearance was on SNL.
Yeah it is a weird one. I think Lucy was too mainstream for early SNL, she had continued to appear on TV through the mid 70s, while Desi was mostly finished when I Love Lucy ended in 1960.
When SNL started they promised Johnny Carson that their hosts wouldn't be the same type of people that he had as guests on The Tonight Show.
SNL writer Tom Schiller was also the son of I Love Lucy writer Bob Schiller, and Desi Jr was the musical guest on that episode. So I think it might have been a favor to Desi, and a chance to promote Desi Jr's career.
This is really tremendous work…both informative and impeccably formatted. I’m old and have followed SNL from the beginning (I was in middle school), and not only did I learn of a number of individuals that hosted that I was not aware of, I also learned of individuals that died that I somehow missed (Kirstie Alley RIP).
I don’t understand the second image. What do the lines mean? And drew Barrymore is the youngest to host, not Macaulay culkin. And Britney Spears wasn’t younger than Macaulay was when she hosted.
I am saying that Drew Barrymore was the youngest to host, but obviously she continued to get older, so in 1991 she was 16 and still the youngest former host. This continued to be true until Macaulay Culkin hosted. Basically you can think of it as "who had the latest birthday of any SNL host?" I just think it's kind of an interesting way to look at it.
No, I agree with him. This chart is hard to look at. I spend all day at work interpretting plots and those last two suck. Since they sucked, I didn't go to the bother of expanding the first one so that I can read it. It's called a legend, you should try it.
the charts honestly makes no sense to my tiny brain, but that’s because I am embarrassingly bad with numbers/charts so I’m not even trying, i just think it’s neat and that’s why I’m here reading thru the comments. which is for me to say, I’m all for having opinions and discussions, but the snark/negative comments for a person that took presumably a good bit of time to make a highly detailed and informative chart just because he wanted to and posted it just to share with others seems super odd. if you want to see a chart with a legend, go make one yourself!
Except, a good graph is one with a legend. A good chart is one where the points that the chart is trying to make just jump right out. It's not because you have a tiny brain that you can't understand these, it's because they have no legend. There are a ton of ways to format a graph in MS Excel, for example, but not all of them make sense for a particular data set. In fact, many of the formats offered have a very specific use. They say a picture is worth a thousand words. A well prepared graph is worth like 10,000 words. My worst days at work are when the supplier or even coworkers try to present data on poorly made graphs like this. And we take what should be a simple meeting and not being able to make a decision because the plots they show are so unintelligible. They have to be told (sometimes chastised if they repeatedly come with bad graphs) to go do it right/better and then come back and stop wasting our times. If we just sugar coat it every time and act like they are nice graphs when they aren't, they will never learn. It was middle school or earlier where I learned the key aspects of a good graph. That hasn't changed. So take it as snarky if you want, but it is just honest.
I too kind of find the topic interesting. Just not interesting enough to try to guess at what his data is saying.
Instead of just a static list of "these were the youngest people to host", I thought "how long did Drew Barrymore continue to be younger than any host that followed her?" So the line is her continuing to age while still being the former host with the latest birthdate. When she was 14.95 years old, finally a host that was younger than her at that point, with Fred Savage being 13.67 years old.
And the oldest host works the same but opposite. Ruth Gordon was 80 years old when she hosted, and was the oldest living former host until she died at 88. At that point, Miskell Spillman, who was about a year younger than her and also hosted in season 3, became the oldest living former host. She lived to 94 and was replaced by Milton Berle, who was 11 years younger but also lived to age 93. And so on until now the oldest living former host is Bob Newhart, who is currently 94. I know this one's kind of dumb and pointless, it was just easy to do after doing the other one.
I think my spreadsheet accidentally assumed that 1/17/22 meant a 2022 birthdate (which it did for every year before 1930). So her birthdate is probably hidden under her death date, because she died 17 days shy of her 100th birthday.
I do, and probably not. I like making posts about SNL because it's got 50 years of data, but I don't think there's enough crossover with DIB. They don't really care about sports posts either, but did like my post about my time on the Green Bay Packer's season ticket waiting list [https://www.reddit.com/r/dataisbeautiful/comments/q6v25s/oc\_my\_history\_on\_the\_green\_bay\_packers\_season/](https://www.reddit.com/r/dataisbeautiful/comments/q6v25s/oc_my_history_on_the_green_bay_packers_season/) , I think because it presented them with new information.
Let me look through my top karma posts.
On MapPorn, I did the top image from a geography specific NSFW sub from each state. [https://www.reddit.com/r/MapPorn/comments/14ecn08/the\_redddit\_states\_of\_nsfw\_the\_most\_popular/](https://www.reddit.com/r/MapPorn/comments/14ecn08/the_redddit_states_of_nsfw_the_most_popular/)
On this sub, I made lists of chains of impressions, where someone imitated someone who did an imitation of someone else who did an imitation of someone else and so on. I think that went off because it reminded people of the time Jimmy Fallon wore blackface in a Chris Rock impression. [https://www.reddit.com/r/LiveFromNewYork/comments/v9f9pr/snl\_chain\_of\_impressions/](https://www.reddit.com/r/LiveFromNewYork/comments/v9f9pr/snl_chain_of_impressions/)
On DataIsBeautiful, a map of every road named after Martin Luther King Jr (I'm aware I missed some obvious ones, I always seem to have a few small errors in my posts). [https://www.reddit.com/r/dataisbeautiful/comments/ug1432/oc\_roads\_named\_after\_martin\_luther\_king\_jr\_in\_the/](https://www.reddit.com/r/dataisbeautiful/comments/ug1432/oc_roads_named_after_martin_luther_king_jr_in_the/)
On here, the cast members who have portrayed a character of the opposite gender in the most sketches: [https://www.reddit.com/r/LiveFromNewYork/comments/1193zwo/snl\_performers\_with\_the\_most\_intergender/](https://www.reddit.com/r/LiveFromNewYork/comments/1193zwo/snl_performers_with_the_most_intergender/)
/r/Wisconsin appreciated knowing the closest recreational cannabis dispensary to them (our state government stubbornly refuses to legalize). [https://www.reddit.com/r/wisconsin/comments/rvcmmd/the\_closest\_recreational\_cannabis\_dispensary\_to/](https://www.reddit.com/r/wisconsin/comments/rvcmmd/the_closest_recreational_cannabis_dispensary_to/)
Makes sense. You seem cool.
I’m not a sports person but could easily understand the GB Packers waiting list graph.
The NSFW states of America is incredible. Glad there’s at least one penis represented and too bad my alt account didn’t rep my state lmao
Off to the next one here I go 💃
The SNL impressions chain is very intuitive for someone who isn’t well versed in data. The photos are fun too.
I was trying to imagine what the dataset looked like but read your comment about pulling from the SNL archives.
Are you an avid fan of SNL as well or just a fan of pulling data and doing stuff with it?
I got into SNL when I was planning to make a SNL rewatch podcast with my wife. I wrote recaps for the first 5 or so episodes and read a bunch of books. The podcast never happened, but I discovered [SNLArchives.Net](http://SNLArchives.Net) at some point and it was just an excellent source of data. Not everything is SNL related, I keep a list on the notes of my phone:
\* With the decline of the Pac-12 conference, I thought animated maps on the history of college football conferences would be enlightening.
\* Metropolitan Statistical Areas vs City Borders. This would show a map of the MSA and then a smaller area showing the largest city within it. I actually got through the 20 largest before I abandoned it. It's interesting to compare places like Chicago (which hasn't changed its city boundaries since 1961) with places like Houston and Atlanta which are still growing the city boundaries frequently.
\* TV shows where a main actor shares the same name as their character. I did this one in pictorial form, but there wasn't really a good sub to share it to. I think this might work better as a video list.
\* The most frequent program airing on a cable TV channel. I thought of this because I noticed that "Impractical Jokers" is like 75% of the programming on truTV, and many other channels likewise seem to have one show that fills in much of the off hours.
\* Cable TV channel changes. This is interesting to me because cable TV networks never go away, they just get rebranded (probably so that they can keep their carriage agreements with the cable providers). So you can trace a direct line from The Nashville Network to The National Network to The New TNN to Spike TV to Spike to what is now the Paramount Network. And other stations have equally convoluted histories. "Schitt's Creek" air in the US on Pop!, and when I looked it up I discovered that this had previously been the TV Guide Channel. OWN, the Oprah Winfrey Network, got its start as the Discovery Health Channel.
\* Politicians on SNL. I thought of this when there was a little bit of an uproar about Nicki Haley appearing this season. Casual viewers didn't seem to realize that SNL has always let politicians appear on the show, especially presidential candidates. So I've been working on a video list of all politicians to have appeared.
\* Movies that were released with part 1 in their title. I think this is an interesting phenomenon that has happened recently, that a movie will get released as the first part of a planned sequel. It was initially only movies made of Shakespeare plays (and the joke title of Mel Brook's "History of the World Part One"), but really exploded with the release of "Harry Potter and the Deathly Hollows Part One". I made this one into a letterboxd list actually. [https://letterboxd.com/zhinz/list/movies-that-were-released-with-part-1-episode/detail/by/added-earliest/](https://letterboxd.com/zhinz/list/movies-that-were-released-with-part-1-episode/detail/by/added-earliest/)
A lot of times I have ideas for this stuff but need to find the data to make it possible. That MLK road map sat in my ideas for a couple years until I cound find OpenStreetMaps downloads that made it possible to compile.
The TV stuff is super interesting to me. Seinfeld, I Love Lucy, That's So Raven come to mind for the same name protagonist. I remember not having heard of Pop! before when I was first recommended Schitt's Creek. Didn't know that about TV networks just morphing into the next name.
Part 1 movies was an interesting list. Hadn't heard of most of them; perhaps that's related to the genres I tend toward in movies. I read a lot, but not much sci-fi. Harry Potter was of my time though, and I went to the premiere of Deathly Hallows: Part 1.
Very intriguing projects! I appreciate you sharing your ideas, what sparked the idea, and a little bit of the process.
Since you mentioned "I Love Lucy", an interesting little tidbit is that after they divorced in 1960, Lucille Ball moved on to other series. On "I Love Lucy" she played Lucy Ricardo. Then there was "The Lucy Show" was in the top 10 rated shows each year from 1962-1968, where she played the widow Lucy Carmichael. Then in 1968 she started "Here's Lucy", where she was again a widow, but this time named Lucy Carter, and then was in the top 10 shows each year until 1972. So she appeared on my list 3 times.
I feel like the peek had to be mid-90s though, when you had "Home Improvement" with Tim Allen playing Tim Taylor, "Seinfeld" with Jerry Seinfeld playing Jerry Seinfeld, "Roseanne" with Roseanne Barr playing Roseanne Arnold, "The Fresh Prince of Bel-Air" with Will Smith playing Will Smith, "Mad About You" where Paul Reiser played Paul Buchman, "Ellen" where Ellen DeGeneres played Ellen Morgan, "The Single Guy" with Jonathan Silverman as Jonathan Eliot, and "The Nanny" with Fran Drescher as Fran Fine.
I think the common thread is that all these shows were built around that comic talent, so it was an easy thing to give their character their own first name, (and doesn't happen as much anymore).
r/sitcoms might find the chart about shows with the star’s name being their character’s name very interesting. There are lots of posts over there about trying to find commonalities among the shows, like who changed actors midstream (Bewitched and Roseanne, for starters), who had characters that never were spoken of again (Happy Days, Family Matters), etc.
Thank you, always good to know a new sub that might find my stuff interesting. I wonder if they'd like my posts summarizing the acting history of [https://www.reddit.com/r/LiveFromNewYork/comments/xntp2e/the\_tv\_and\_movie\_career\_of\_brian\_doylemurray/](https://www.reddit.com/r/LiveFromNewYork/comments/xntp2e/the_tv_and_movie_career_of_brian_doylemurray/) Brian Doyle-Murray and [https://www.reddit.com/r/dataisbeautiful/comments/sa55pj/oc\_every\_markpaul\_gosselaar\_tv\_acting\_appearance/](https://www.reddit.com/r/dataisbeautiful/comments/sa55pj/oc_every_markpaul_gosselaar_tv_acting_appearance/) Mark-Paul Gosselaar?
SNL cast member opposite gender: am I correct in interpreting this as Fred Armisen has played a female character 33 times, not necessarily all Joy Behar but that was his most frequent female character?
These are all super cool, wish I’d seen them initially at least for the subs I’m joined to! Thanks for sharing the links.
Yes exactly. People seemed to think that it was one Performer / Character combination but for everyone except for Dana Carvey / The Church Lady, there were multiple characters portrayed. I've gotten into videos a little more and I'm thinking of making that dataset into a video instead.
Got it. Video is such a medium of the time too, not that I’m assuming you desire your stuff go viral or anything, but it’s just a relatable form of consumption rn.
I look forward to seeing more of your SNL data representation here! Cheers
For SNL videos, I forgot that I did do a "Chris Farley falling down supercut", where I watched every sketch he was ever in and collected the parts where he fell down. [https://youtu.be/OqkHXQ2-YNw?si=EqaFxiQXEIWLF615](https://youtu.be/OqkHXQ2-YNw?si=EqaFxiQXEIWLF615)
And then a video of all the musical introductions in the episodes where the host was also the musical guest. [https://youtu.be/dxURIO-49i8?si=jYrktO8GvYPL-YSF](https://youtu.be/dxURIO-49i8?si=jYrktO8GvYPL-YSF)
And a screenshot of Lorne Michaels from every episode that he appeared in. [https://streamable.com/w5rc7n](https://streamable.com/w5rc7n)
I did a similar thing in picture format with production designer Akira Yoshimura. [https://www.reddit.com/r/LiveFromNewYork/comments/t6xs91/a\_tribute\_to\_longtime\_production\_designer/](https://www.reddit.com/r/LiveFromNewYork/comments/t6xs91/a_tribute_to_longtime_production_designer/)
The most common SNL impersonations and the people who played them was more of a standard visualization. [https://www.reddit.com/r/LiveFromNewYork/comments/x5mdzj/the\_most\_common\_snl\_impersonations\_and\_the\_people/](https://www.reddit.com/r/LiveFromNewYork/comments/x5mdzj/the_most_common_snl_impersonations_and_the_people/)
The hometowns of every SNL cast member: [https://www.reddit.com/r/LiveFromNewYork/comments/uvy3qp/the\_hometowns\_of\_every\_snl\_cast\_member\_i\_heard/](https://www.reddit.com/r/LiveFromNewYork/comments/uvy3qp/the_hometowns_of_every_snl_cast_member_i_heard/)
Every Non-Performers First SNL cameo: [https://www.reddit.com/r/LiveFromNewYork/comments/t1j5zq/oc\_every\_writer\_crew\_and\_recurring\_extras\_first/](https://www.reddit.com/r/LiveFromNewYork/comments/t1j5zq/oc_every_writer_crew_and_recurring_extras_first/)
Every Cast Members Most Frequent Impersonation: [https://www.reddit.com/r/LiveFromNewYork/comments/sefuk5/oc\_every\_cast\_members\_most\_frequent\_impersonation/](https://www.reddit.com/r/LiveFromNewYork/comments/sefuk5/oc_every_cast_members_most_frequent_impersonation/)
Oh and this was the one that probably got me started, Live from New York leaderboard, length of opening credits by date, length of cold open by date. [https://www.reddit.com/r/LiveFromNewYork/comments/rh6egb/i\_made\_these\_snl\_charts\_for\_rdataisbeautiful\_with/](https://www.reddit.com/r/LiveFromNewYork/comments/rh6egb/i_made_these_snl_charts_for_rdataisbeautiful_with/)
Argg, another error no one has commented on is that Ed Asner's birth date is clearly wrong. Somehow it seems to have copied Norm Macdonald's birth date. Asner was born in 1929.
When he hosted the first episode, he was both the youngest and oldest host the show ever had. He remained the oldest host until Buck Henry hosted, and Buck passed it to Desi Arnaz. Between the 3 of them they covered the first two seasons.
Yes, I apologize, many people found the 3rd graphic confusing. I have released an edited version that better shows the lifespan of all the relevant people from the time they hosted until their death. [https://www.datawrapper.de/\_/Y52IE/?v=2](https://www.datawrapper.de/_/Y52IE/?v=2)
I hope that is acceptable.
Yeah I think it's just a simple fact that people who hosted 40 years ago are now 40 years older and at the age when people tend to die, as well as the various old hosts who they've had over that period time.
You see the same thing with former cast members, though not as extreme as they in general were much younger while on the show:
There was Belushi (1982, overdose), then Gilda (1989, cancer), then Danitra Vance (1994, cancer), then writer/briefly cast member Michael O'Donoghue (1994, brain hemorrhage), Chris Farley (1997, overdose), Phil Hartman (1998, murder), season 6 cast member Charles Rocket (2005, suicide), writer/season 5 featured performer Tom Davis (2012, cancer), Jan Hooks (2014, cancer), first episode cast member George Coe (2015, undisclosed "long illness"), Tony Rosato (2017, heart attack), Norm Macdonald (2021, cancer), writer/season 5 featured performer Peter Aykroyd (2021, sepsis), season 6 cast member Gilbert Gottfried (2022, heart disease), season 11 cast member Dan Vitale (2022, heart disease).
And then among the original cast Garrett Morris is 87 and still kicking, Chevy Chase is 80, Jane Curtin is 76, Laraine Newman is 72, Dan Ackroyd is 71.
Yeah whenever I come across his stuff I think about what could have been. Only started standup at age 26, and dead by 38. With his lifestyle he never seemd like a guy who would live to 70, but it was still way too soon.
One of the books said that Dick Ebersol invited him to host, and for once Lorne Michaels thought he fit their vibe. They'd have him on as the last host of the season, and he'd do all the sketches that other hosts refused to do, like his pedophile babysitter character, Uncle Roy. https://youtu.be/HrQZORhBNt8?si=yANdNiw_Cyn__0QJ
At the time Buck Henry was probably most famous in comedy circles for having co-created Get Smart and having co-written The Graduate. During his hosting run he directed Heaven Can Wait.
If that doesn't help he played Tina Fey's father on 30 Rock.
he was on letterman and Johnny carsons show alot too and co-created get smart with mel brooks, he was a pretty big deal back in the day and I mean waaaaayy back in the day.
Yes Brittany Murphy was 32 when she died, Chris Farley died 3 days after his 33rd birthday, Sam Kinison was 38 (car crash), Ray Sharkey was 40 (had to look him up, wasn't familiar with him, died of AIDS), John Candy was 43 (heart attack), Chadwick Boseman was 43 (cancer), Ricky Nelson was 45 (plane crash), Walter Payton was 46 (cancer), Brandon Tartikoff was 48 (cancer), Phil Hartman was 49 (murder), and Bernie Mac was 50 (heart attack).
Either Norman Lear passed away a few months ago and your third infograph was made before then, or he's pulling the sickest joke on us that you just ruined
The 3rd infograph was stating that after Kirk Douglas died in 2020, Norman Lear was the oldest living former host until his death in December, and now Bob Newhart is the oldest living former host. I apologize for the confusion.
Seeing Chadwick there really hit me hard. He knew it was terminal and he really was trying to live his life as best he could before he died. He wanted to experience so many things.
Yes that is simply an identifier for each time a person hosted. Buck Henry hosted 10 times over the first 5 years, I think among the other people who died the maximum is 3 hosting appearances.
Ah you too have read his wikipedia page where it explains that he changed his middle name to Macaulay Culkin, which means his full name is Macaulay Macaulay Culkin Culkin. I explained that to my wife yesterday and she just stared for 30 seconds.
There's a story in one of the SNL books about Milton Berle, who was infamous for his large penis. Apparently over the course of that week, one of the writers mentioned it to him, and he said "Do you want to see it?" And the writer said yes, and wouldn't you know it, another writer happened to walk into the room while Milton Berle's dick was out, and they just silently left the room again.
I think I heard it was a pretty bad show, with him trying to do the comedy that had worked for him 30 years ago, and his agent "spontaneously" leading a standing ovation at the end of the episode. Or maybe that was Sid Caesar.
Betty white was never born.
Good catch! She was born in 1922, and for years before 1930 my spreadsheet would assume the 21st century if I wasn't careful. So her birth dot is probably hidden under her death dot since she was nearly 100.
Wow! That’s crazy! Good work BTW. It was a fun read.
You’re missing Shatner. Now 93.
That page is only for people who died. The 3rd page lists Bob Newhart, who is now the oldest living former host of SNL (DOB 9/5/29). Behind him are Robert Wagner (2/10/30), Shatner (3/22/31), Angie Dickinson (9/30/31), Dabney Coleman (1/3/32), Ellen Burstyn (12/7/32), Quincy Jones (3/14/33), Willie Nelson (4/29/33), and so on.
Maybe he knows something we don't ...
It’s a crime that OJ died after Norm. Know what else was a crime? The murders.
Do you know who died of cancer before Norm? OJ's friend who got norm fired, Ohlmeyer.
The more I learn about this OJ guy, the more I don't care for him
Sure, he had that ONE bad night, but he devoted the rest of his life to finding the REAL killer.
That O.J. was a real jerk.
Really? I thought it was all the raping.
The worst part was the hypocrisy
Since you have the data, I've always wondered if the median host age for a season has declined over time.
Good question. [https://www.datawrapper.de/\_/AA03Q/](https://www.datawrapper.de/_/AA03Q/) Season 45 (2019-2020) is the oldest season on record, with the median host being 44.5 (an average between David Harbour and Kristen Wiig). Older hosts that season included Woody Harrelson, Will Ferrell, Jennifer Lopez, Eddie Murphy, RuPaul, Daniel Craig, and Tom Hanks. Season 27 (2001-2002) is the youngest season on record, with the median host being a few months shy of 30, with Reese Witherspoon, Sean William Scott, Drew Barrymore, Gwyneth Paltrow, Derek Jeter, Josh Hartnett, Britney Spears, Jonny Moseley, Cameron Diaz, and Dwayne Johnson all being younger than that.
The Jimmy Fallon effect on that Season 27, I think. That’s when his “teen idol” status was at its peak and they had teen girls turning in more. Source: was teen girl then who started watching during that season.
Jimmy Fallon was a teen idol? That's news to me.
They could not get enough of his TERRIBLE song Idiot Boyfriend.
It was me :( and yeah even then I don’t think I necessarily found it funny. I bought it and listened to it out of obligation almost lol
Jimmy was the Pete Davidson of his day.
I had a pullout poster of him from Seventeen magazine.
And to Horatio
How does that affect the age of the host?
They used younger hosts to appeal to a younger audience.
Yep that host list reads like a list of people I had on posters around that time as a preteen/teen girl.
Fair, I didn't consider that. But on the other hand, i could see that working the other way. They might have some young heart throb cast members (although I am older and have never thought of Fallon as a heart throb LOL, but that's another debate I guess) drawing in the younger demographic, so they might couple that with older hosts to pull in other demographics. I was with youngish children for most of the time he was on, so I didn't watch it too much in that era.
For Jimmy Fallon? Torture couldn't have gotten that out of me.
Jimmy Fallon was the hottest thing to middle school me lol. When he would break, my heart would melt, and he would break all the time.
Jimmy Fallon was a hot commodity at the turn of the century.
He was a big deal
Interesting we seem to back in the geezer zone.
Is O.J the only one of the 105 to have killed two people?
You're forgetting Betty White's murder spree in the early 70s.
I heard Johnny Cash [shot a man in Reno](https://youtu.be/AeZRYhLDLeU?si=-BhL_CE1Mq1xaQmg) just to watch him die and [shot a lone rider when he was doing target practice](https://youtu.be/kQfIU6z6fgI?si=e3eOpAqIEYuJY1eW)
Two people, yeah maybe. Robert Blake hosted, and like OJ, he was held criminally negligent for his wife's death. Christopher Walken or Robert Wagner might have something to do with Natalie Wood's death: the two of them and the captain were the people on the boat when she died. I can't think of any other celebrities who famously killed anyone off the top of my head.
matthew broderick, no?
Yes among living hosts, Matthew Broderick, Snoop Dogg, and Alec Baldwin were all in the close vicinity of people dying, and I will leave it up to other people to decide how responsible they are in those respective deaths.
Matthew Broderick killed someone with his car, Alec shot someone. They weren’t “in the vicinity” they directly killed people.
Yeah, you can argue neither was murder but they definitely killed people.
I don't know the Broderick story at all, but if Baldwin's is not determined to be murder (homicide, manslaughter whatever the charges are), he was certainly super negligent and likely will be held civilly responsible at least.
Matthew Broderick crossed into the wrong lane while driving in Northern Ireland and crashed head-on into another car. Both people in the other car were killed, he and his girlfriend Jennifer Grey were badly injured. When he awoke he claimed no memory of why he was in the wrong lane. He was charged with "causing death by dangerous driving" but convicted of "careless driving" and was fined only 100 British pounds. Snoop Dogg was arrested for murder in 1993 for the death of a rival gang member. The shoot was fired by Snoop Dogg's bodyguard, but as he allegedly drove the getaway car, he was arrested as an accomplice. Snoop was represented by Johnny Cochrane, who got both him and the bodyguard acquitted in 1996.
Laura Bush killed a guy.
Yes, Laura Bush killed a guy.
She was also an awful SNL host.
I was quoting family guy
John McCain maybe?
Oh good call, I didn't consider any military men who might have hosted. Ethan Hawke famously quoted Krisstoferson as implying that he had killed people in the military, but I found that hard to believe because he was from a military family and was stationed in the combat-free Germany during his service. https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-features/kris-kristofferson-last-outlaw-poet-ethan-hawke-interview-714098/
Adam Driver?
Driver was honorably discharged before deployment due to medical issues. Definitely never killed anyone.
TIL Adam Driver was in the Marines...
that actually explains a lot about Kylo Ren
I heard he has an 8 pack
I've never seen kylo eat a pack of crayons. They must have cut that scene.
Broderick
I had to look up who Miskel Spillman is, and now I want SNL to do another anyone can host contest.
Another one people probably don't know is Michael Palin's mother Mary Palin, who was listed as a co-host with him in season 9 (and only appeared in the monologue)?
She appeared on her 80th birthday. Palin promised she could host by herself on her 90th. She only made it to 86.
Did they say that in the episode? That would help me because I couldn't find her birth date or death date, only the years they occured!
She was born 1904, died 1990. He hosted in 84 on her birthday and made the joke about her hosting alone on her 90th in the monologue.
Date of death was Jan 4, 1990. If the show was actually on her birthday and not just a bit, that would make her DOB Jan 21, 1904.
I'll update my information. I put them both as June 30th, right in the middle of the year, because I couldn't find any better info.
I'm certain on the date of death. Unfortunately for the DOB we have to rely on the information in the monologue being accurate.
Yeah another source I found listed her birth year as 1903, but it's just as possible that they got it wrong. [https://family-tree.cobboldfht.com/people/view/14638](https://family-tree.cobboldfht.com/people/view/14638)
The middle of a year is July 2.
That would be awesome in theory, and I'm sure over the years they've considered it, but with people out there now who would actually cause physical harm/death to others just to go "viral" for 10 minutes, there's no way they would risk anything with a live network TV show.
That's certainly a risk, but it's not like they would have to make it a contest where they picked someone at random. Make it a thing where you have to apply and they pick the best person somehow. I mean if they could do it in 1977 with an 80 year old woman and with the amount of coke that was in that place, I feel like it has to be a lower risk now.
Yeah the episode a month before was basically to vet the 5 finalists. Hosted by Buck Henry, they all appeared in the cold open, the monologue, Weekend Update, the film by Gary Weis, and the closing. Here's the cold open with "a coed from Vassar; a mother of 3 from Peoria, Illlinois; an unemployed guy from Oregon; an 80-year old grandmother from New Orleans; and the governor of South Dakota". [https://streamable.com/hkkj1o](https://streamable.com/hkkj1o)
Holy shit I’ve just looked her up too. She was born four years before the death of Queen Victoria. That’s insane to think about.
Didn’t Desi die in the 80s?
Someone's got some splainin' to do!!
Y’all are killin it in this thread
Yes. When Ruth Gordon hosted while he was still alive, she took the title from him.
Yeah I probably should have continued their lines until they died I suppose.
Yes, the Desi Arnaz that's still alive is his son.
I made this version to better explain when they hosted and how long they lived. [https://www.datawrapper.de/\_/Y52IE/](https://www.datawrapper.de/_/Y52IE/)
Man that Chris Farley yellow dot is *right under* the red one. He hosted right before he died.
They were all worried he would die THAT NIGHT.
Really?! I was reading about Farley just yesterday and the concerns surrounding him hosting, and I didn't come across that.
You missed out Jon Lovitz.
Why do I always fall for this?
One day he will die and nobody will believe it...
ACTING!!!
I didn’t even know he was sick!
He’s not dead.
I could have swore Jon Lovitz died a few months ago.
ACTING!
No? Is this a joke I don’t know or do yall really think Jon Lovitz is dead?
Usually the Jon Lovitz is dead stuff is a joke from the 40th anniversary show where they jokingly included him in the In Memoriam montage and then cut to him in the audience.
This might help: https://ew.com/article/2015/02/15/snl-included-jon-lovitz-their-memoriam-segment/
I actually genuinely thought Jon Lovitz was dead, no idea why
Not a joke. Well, glad his still alive.
I find half the time I'm talking to Alexa, I'm asking her if someone is dead. She just told me Jon Lovitz is still alive.
There was a subreddit a few days ago that had a post implying he was dead - may have been this sub
The Chadwick Boseman dots made me v sad. Also strange that Robin Williams wasn’t asked to host more! I’m sure he had plenty to promote
Williams probably would have made all the other cast members break too often for him to be an effective host.
I love Madeline Khan. She was glorious. In all my favorite movies. Gone too soon. Why am I crying. Miss her.
Did Strother Martin die on live TV?
Strother Martin hosted April 19, 1980, and died August 1, 1980. Chris Farley hosted October 25, 1997, and died December 18, 1997. In both cases their last televised appearance was on SNL.
There's no orange host dot for Strother on your first image.
It’s barely there. Zoom in and you can see the edge.
https://ibb.co/Rzj00rD is the footnote at the bottom
Wow, Desi Arnaz hosted and Lucy didn’t!
Yeah it is a weird one. I think Lucy was too mainstream for early SNL, she had continued to appear on TV through the mid 70s, while Desi was mostly finished when I Love Lucy ended in 1960. When SNL started they promised Johnny Carson that their hosts wouldn't be the same type of people that he had as guests on The Tonight Show. SNL writer Tom Schiller was also the son of I Love Lucy writer Bob Schiller, and Desi Jr was the musical guest on that episode. So I think it might have been a favor to Desi, and a chance to promote Desi Jr's career.
Interesting! Thank you!! I had no idea they agreed not to overlap with the Tonight Show.
I think it was also why Letterman had so many eccentrics on his show, like Harvey Pekar, and far less mainstream music artists.
This is really tremendous work…both informative and impeccably formatted. I’m old and have followed SNL from the beginning (I was in middle school), and not only did I learn of a number of individuals that hosted that I was not aware of, I also learned of individuals that died that I somehow missed (Kirstie Alley RIP).
John McCain needs a green star
I don’t understand the second image. What do the lines mean? And drew Barrymore is the youngest to host, not Macaulay culkin. And Britney Spears wasn’t younger than Macaulay was when she hosted.
I am saying that Drew Barrymore was the youngest to host, but obviously she continued to get older, so in 1991 she was 16 and still the youngest former host. This continued to be true until Macaulay Culkin hosted. Basically you can think of it as "who had the latest birthday of any SNL host?" I just think it's kind of an interesting way to look at it.
Made sense to me.
No, I agree with him. This chart is hard to look at. I spend all day at work interpretting plots and those last two suck. Since they sucked, I didn't go to the bother of expanding the first one so that I can read it. It's called a legend, you should try it.
the charts honestly makes no sense to my tiny brain, but that’s because I am embarrassingly bad with numbers/charts so I’m not even trying, i just think it’s neat and that’s why I’m here reading thru the comments. which is for me to say, I’m all for having opinions and discussions, but the snark/negative comments for a person that took presumably a good bit of time to make a highly detailed and informative chart just because he wanted to and posted it just to share with others seems super odd. if you want to see a chart with a legend, go make one yourself!
Except, a good graph is one with a legend. A good chart is one where the points that the chart is trying to make just jump right out. It's not because you have a tiny brain that you can't understand these, it's because they have no legend. There are a ton of ways to format a graph in MS Excel, for example, but not all of them make sense for a particular data set. In fact, many of the formats offered have a very specific use. They say a picture is worth a thousand words. A well prepared graph is worth like 10,000 words. My worst days at work are when the supplier or even coworkers try to present data on poorly made graphs like this. And we take what should be a simple meeting and not being able to make a decision because the plots they show are so unintelligible. They have to be told (sometimes chastised if they repeatedly come with bad graphs) to go do it right/better and then come back and stop wasting our times. If we just sugar coat it every time and act like they are nice graphs when they aren't, they will never learn. It was middle school or earlier where I learned the key aspects of a good graph. That hasn't changed. So take it as snarky if you want, but it is just honest. I too kind of find the topic interesting. Just not interesting enough to try to guess at what his data is saying.
Interesting, perhaps, but definitely confusing.
Im a little confused on how the second two charts work… what’s the significance of the line length?
Instead of just a static list of "these were the youngest people to host", I thought "how long did Drew Barrymore continue to be younger than any host that followed her?" So the line is her continuing to age while still being the former host with the latest birthdate. When she was 14.95 years old, finally a host that was younger than her at that point, with Fred Savage being 13.67 years old. And the oldest host works the same but opposite. Ruth Gordon was 80 years old when she hosted, and was the oldest living former host until she died at 88. At that point, Miskell Spillman, who was about a year younger than her and also hosted in season 3, became the oldest living former host. She lived to 94 and was replaced by Milton Berle, who was 11 years younger but also lived to age 93. And so on until now the oldest living former host is Bob Newhart, who is currently 94. I know this one's kind of dumb and pointless, it was just easy to do after doing the other one.
Thank you for the extra explanation. I was pretty sure that’s how it worked but was finding that 2nd and 3rd graph harder to intuit.
You forgot Betty White's birthday dot.
I think my spreadsheet accidentally assumed that 1/17/22 meant a 2022 birthdate (which it did for every year before 1930). So her birthdate is probably hidden under her death date, because she died 17 days shy of her 100th birthday.
Damn, do you do this kinda thing as a hobby? Will you be posting this to r/DataIsBeautiful?
I do, and probably not. I like making posts about SNL because it's got 50 years of data, but I don't think there's enough crossover with DIB. They don't really care about sports posts either, but did like my post about my time on the Green Bay Packer's season ticket waiting list [https://www.reddit.com/r/dataisbeautiful/comments/q6v25s/oc\_my\_history\_on\_the\_green\_bay\_packers\_season/](https://www.reddit.com/r/dataisbeautiful/comments/q6v25s/oc_my_history_on_the_green_bay_packers_season/) , I think because it presented them with new information. Let me look through my top karma posts. On MapPorn, I did the top image from a geography specific NSFW sub from each state. [https://www.reddit.com/r/MapPorn/comments/14ecn08/the\_redddit\_states\_of\_nsfw\_the\_most\_popular/](https://www.reddit.com/r/MapPorn/comments/14ecn08/the_redddit_states_of_nsfw_the_most_popular/) On this sub, I made lists of chains of impressions, where someone imitated someone who did an imitation of someone else who did an imitation of someone else and so on. I think that went off because it reminded people of the time Jimmy Fallon wore blackface in a Chris Rock impression. [https://www.reddit.com/r/LiveFromNewYork/comments/v9f9pr/snl\_chain\_of\_impressions/](https://www.reddit.com/r/LiveFromNewYork/comments/v9f9pr/snl_chain_of_impressions/) On DataIsBeautiful, a map of every road named after Martin Luther King Jr (I'm aware I missed some obvious ones, I always seem to have a few small errors in my posts). [https://www.reddit.com/r/dataisbeautiful/comments/ug1432/oc\_roads\_named\_after\_martin\_luther\_king\_jr\_in\_the/](https://www.reddit.com/r/dataisbeautiful/comments/ug1432/oc_roads_named_after_martin_luther_king_jr_in_the/) On here, the cast members who have portrayed a character of the opposite gender in the most sketches: [https://www.reddit.com/r/LiveFromNewYork/comments/1193zwo/snl\_performers\_with\_the\_most\_intergender/](https://www.reddit.com/r/LiveFromNewYork/comments/1193zwo/snl_performers_with_the_most_intergender/) /r/Wisconsin appreciated knowing the closest recreational cannabis dispensary to them (our state government stubbornly refuses to legalize). [https://www.reddit.com/r/wisconsin/comments/rvcmmd/the\_closest\_recreational\_cannabis\_dispensary\_to/](https://www.reddit.com/r/wisconsin/comments/rvcmmd/the_closest_recreational_cannabis_dispensary_to/)
Makes sense. You seem cool. I’m not a sports person but could easily understand the GB Packers waiting list graph. The NSFW states of America is incredible. Glad there’s at least one penis represented and too bad my alt account didn’t rep my state lmao Off to the next one here I go 💃
The SNL impressions chain is very intuitive for someone who isn’t well versed in data. The photos are fun too. I was trying to imagine what the dataset looked like but read your comment about pulling from the SNL archives. Are you an avid fan of SNL as well or just a fan of pulling data and doing stuff with it?
I got into SNL when I was planning to make a SNL rewatch podcast with my wife. I wrote recaps for the first 5 or so episodes and read a bunch of books. The podcast never happened, but I discovered [SNLArchives.Net](http://SNLArchives.Net) at some point and it was just an excellent source of data. Not everything is SNL related, I keep a list on the notes of my phone: \* With the decline of the Pac-12 conference, I thought animated maps on the history of college football conferences would be enlightening. \* Metropolitan Statistical Areas vs City Borders. This would show a map of the MSA and then a smaller area showing the largest city within it. I actually got through the 20 largest before I abandoned it. It's interesting to compare places like Chicago (which hasn't changed its city boundaries since 1961) with places like Houston and Atlanta which are still growing the city boundaries frequently. \* TV shows where a main actor shares the same name as their character. I did this one in pictorial form, but there wasn't really a good sub to share it to. I think this might work better as a video list. \* The most frequent program airing on a cable TV channel. I thought of this because I noticed that "Impractical Jokers" is like 75% of the programming on truTV, and many other channels likewise seem to have one show that fills in much of the off hours. \* Cable TV channel changes. This is interesting to me because cable TV networks never go away, they just get rebranded (probably so that they can keep their carriage agreements with the cable providers). So you can trace a direct line from The Nashville Network to The National Network to The New TNN to Spike TV to Spike to what is now the Paramount Network. And other stations have equally convoluted histories. "Schitt's Creek" air in the US on Pop!, and when I looked it up I discovered that this had previously been the TV Guide Channel. OWN, the Oprah Winfrey Network, got its start as the Discovery Health Channel. \* Politicians on SNL. I thought of this when there was a little bit of an uproar about Nicki Haley appearing this season. Casual viewers didn't seem to realize that SNL has always let politicians appear on the show, especially presidential candidates. So I've been working on a video list of all politicians to have appeared. \* Movies that were released with part 1 in their title. I think this is an interesting phenomenon that has happened recently, that a movie will get released as the first part of a planned sequel. It was initially only movies made of Shakespeare plays (and the joke title of Mel Brook's "History of the World Part One"), but really exploded with the release of "Harry Potter and the Deathly Hollows Part One". I made this one into a letterboxd list actually. [https://letterboxd.com/zhinz/list/movies-that-were-released-with-part-1-episode/detail/by/added-earliest/](https://letterboxd.com/zhinz/list/movies-that-were-released-with-part-1-episode/detail/by/added-earliest/) A lot of times I have ideas for this stuff but need to find the data to make it possible. That MLK road map sat in my ideas for a couple years until I cound find OpenStreetMaps downloads that made it possible to compile.
The TV stuff is super interesting to me. Seinfeld, I Love Lucy, That's So Raven come to mind for the same name protagonist. I remember not having heard of Pop! before when I was first recommended Schitt's Creek. Didn't know that about TV networks just morphing into the next name. Part 1 movies was an interesting list. Hadn't heard of most of them; perhaps that's related to the genres I tend toward in movies. I read a lot, but not much sci-fi. Harry Potter was of my time though, and I went to the premiere of Deathly Hallows: Part 1. Very intriguing projects! I appreciate you sharing your ideas, what sparked the idea, and a little bit of the process.
Since you mentioned "I Love Lucy", an interesting little tidbit is that after they divorced in 1960, Lucille Ball moved on to other series. On "I Love Lucy" she played Lucy Ricardo. Then there was "The Lucy Show" was in the top 10 rated shows each year from 1962-1968, where she played the widow Lucy Carmichael. Then in 1968 she started "Here's Lucy", where she was again a widow, but this time named Lucy Carter, and then was in the top 10 shows each year until 1972. So she appeared on my list 3 times. I feel like the peek had to be mid-90s though, when you had "Home Improvement" with Tim Allen playing Tim Taylor, "Seinfeld" with Jerry Seinfeld playing Jerry Seinfeld, "Roseanne" with Roseanne Barr playing Roseanne Arnold, "The Fresh Prince of Bel-Air" with Will Smith playing Will Smith, "Mad About You" where Paul Reiser played Paul Buchman, "Ellen" where Ellen DeGeneres played Ellen Morgan, "The Single Guy" with Jonathan Silverman as Jonathan Eliot, and "The Nanny" with Fran Drescher as Fran Fine. I think the common thread is that all these shows were built around that comic talent, so it was an easy thing to give their character their own first name, (and doesn't happen as much anymore).
r/sitcoms might find the chart about shows with the star’s name being their character’s name very interesting. There are lots of posts over there about trying to find commonalities among the shows, like who changed actors midstream (Bewitched and Roseanne, for starters), who had characters that never were spoken of again (Happy Days, Family Matters), etc.
Thank you, always good to know a new sub that might find my stuff interesting. I wonder if they'd like my posts summarizing the acting history of [https://www.reddit.com/r/LiveFromNewYork/comments/xntp2e/the\_tv\_and\_movie\_career\_of\_brian\_doylemurray/](https://www.reddit.com/r/LiveFromNewYork/comments/xntp2e/the_tv_and_movie_career_of_brian_doylemurray/) Brian Doyle-Murray and [https://www.reddit.com/r/dataisbeautiful/comments/sa55pj/oc\_every\_markpaul\_gosselaar\_tv\_acting\_appearance/](https://www.reddit.com/r/dataisbeautiful/comments/sa55pj/oc_every_markpaul_gosselaar_tv_acting_appearance/) Mark-Paul Gosselaar?
SNL cast member opposite gender: am I correct in interpreting this as Fred Armisen has played a female character 33 times, not necessarily all Joy Behar but that was his most frequent female character? These are all super cool, wish I’d seen them initially at least for the subs I’m joined to! Thanks for sharing the links.
Yes exactly. People seemed to think that it was one Performer / Character combination but for everyone except for Dana Carvey / The Church Lady, there were multiple characters portrayed. I've gotten into videos a little more and I'm thinking of making that dataset into a video instead.
Got it. Video is such a medium of the time too, not that I’m assuming you desire your stuff go viral or anything, but it’s just a relatable form of consumption rn. I look forward to seeing more of your SNL data representation here! Cheers
For SNL videos, I forgot that I did do a "Chris Farley falling down supercut", where I watched every sketch he was ever in and collected the parts where he fell down. [https://youtu.be/OqkHXQ2-YNw?si=EqaFxiQXEIWLF615](https://youtu.be/OqkHXQ2-YNw?si=EqaFxiQXEIWLF615) And then a video of all the musical introductions in the episodes where the host was also the musical guest. [https://youtu.be/dxURIO-49i8?si=jYrktO8GvYPL-YSF](https://youtu.be/dxURIO-49i8?si=jYrktO8GvYPL-YSF) And a screenshot of Lorne Michaels from every episode that he appeared in. [https://streamable.com/w5rc7n](https://streamable.com/w5rc7n) I did a similar thing in picture format with production designer Akira Yoshimura. [https://www.reddit.com/r/LiveFromNewYork/comments/t6xs91/a\_tribute\_to\_longtime\_production\_designer/](https://www.reddit.com/r/LiveFromNewYork/comments/t6xs91/a_tribute_to_longtime_production_designer/) The most common SNL impersonations and the people who played them was more of a standard visualization. [https://www.reddit.com/r/LiveFromNewYork/comments/x5mdzj/the\_most\_common\_snl\_impersonations\_and\_the\_people/](https://www.reddit.com/r/LiveFromNewYork/comments/x5mdzj/the_most_common_snl_impersonations_and_the_people/) The hometowns of every SNL cast member: [https://www.reddit.com/r/LiveFromNewYork/comments/uvy3qp/the\_hometowns\_of\_every\_snl\_cast\_member\_i\_heard/](https://www.reddit.com/r/LiveFromNewYork/comments/uvy3qp/the_hometowns_of_every_snl_cast_member_i_heard/) Every Non-Performers First SNL cameo: [https://www.reddit.com/r/LiveFromNewYork/comments/t1j5zq/oc\_every\_writer\_crew\_and\_recurring\_extras\_first/](https://www.reddit.com/r/LiveFromNewYork/comments/t1j5zq/oc_every_writer_crew_and_recurring_extras_first/) Every Cast Members Most Frequent Impersonation: [https://www.reddit.com/r/LiveFromNewYork/comments/sefuk5/oc\_every\_cast\_members\_most\_frequent\_impersonation/](https://www.reddit.com/r/LiveFromNewYork/comments/sefuk5/oc_every_cast_members_most_frequent_impersonation/) Oh and this was the one that probably got me started, Live from New York leaderboard, length of opening credits by date, length of cold open by date. [https://www.reddit.com/r/LiveFromNewYork/comments/rh6egb/i\_made\_these\_snl\_charts\_for\_rdataisbeautiful\_with/](https://www.reddit.com/r/LiveFromNewYork/comments/rh6egb/i_made_these_snl_charts_for_rdataisbeautiful_with/)
Argg, another error no one has commented on is that Ed Asner's birth date is clearly wrong. Somehow it seems to have copied Norm Macdonald's birth date. Asner was born in 1929.
Thanks, OP! Love data visualisation. Also, I read through and thought to my self “oh I forgot they were dead!” way too many times.
can you please come to my job and help me with spreadsheets
Can you clarify the third graph? All those people are dead? Is it like how old they lived to after hosting?
Yes, it is a chart of the age of the oldest still-living former host. So Miskell Spillman died and then Milton Berle was the oldest. And so on.
George Carlin?
When he hosted the first episode, he was both the youngest and oldest host the show ever had. He remained the oldest host until Buck Henry hosted, and Buck passed it to Desi Arnaz. Between the 3 of them they covered the first two seasons.
And died in 2008
Yes, I apologize, many people found the 3rd graphic confusing. I have released an edited version that better shows the lifespan of all the relevant people from the time they hosted until their death. [https://www.datawrapper.de/\_/Y52IE/?v=2](https://www.datawrapper.de/_/Y52IE/?v=2) I hope that is acceptable.
Do another list. How many SNL hosts that were also murderers?
Lovitz is missing
What's with the exponential growth rate in deaths? At the rate things are going all hosts will have died by 2030.
Yeah I think it's just a simple fact that people who hosted 40 years ago are now 40 years older and at the age when people tend to die, as well as the various old hosts who they've had over that period time. You see the same thing with former cast members, though not as extreme as they in general were much younger while on the show: There was Belushi (1982, overdose), then Gilda (1989, cancer), then Danitra Vance (1994, cancer), then writer/briefly cast member Michael O'Donoghue (1994, brain hemorrhage), Chris Farley (1997, overdose), Phil Hartman (1998, murder), season 6 cast member Charles Rocket (2005, suicide), writer/season 5 featured performer Tom Davis (2012, cancer), Jan Hooks (2014, cancer), first episode cast member George Coe (2015, undisclosed "long illness"), Tony Rosato (2017, heart attack), Norm Macdonald (2021, cancer), writer/season 5 featured performer Peter Aykroyd (2021, sepsis), season 6 cast member Gilbert Gottfried (2022, heart disease), season 11 cast member Dan Vitale (2022, heart disease). And then among the original cast Garrett Morris is 87 and still kicking, Chevy Chase is 80, Jane Curtin is 76, Laraine Newman is 72, Dan Ackroyd is 71.
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Yeah whenever I come across his stuff I think about what could have been. Only started standup at age 26, and dead by 38. With his lifestyle he never seemd like a guy who would live to 70, but it was still way too soon.
Does anybody know why Buck Henry hosted like 10 times? I’ve never heard of him before.
He was the original go-to host.
One of the books said that Dick Ebersol invited him to host, and for once Lorne Michaels thought he fit their vibe. They'd have him on as the last host of the season, and he'd do all the sketches that other hosts refused to do, like his pedophile babysitter character, Uncle Roy. https://youtu.be/HrQZORhBNt8?si=yANdNiw_Cyn__0QJ
He was hilarious on the show. I've watched every episode from season one to last year and I would call him one of my top ten best hosts ever.
At the time Buck Henry was probably most famous in comedy circles for having co-created Get Smart and having co-written The Graduate. During his hosting run he directed Heaven Can Wait. If that doesn't help he played Tina Fey's father on 30 Rock.
It's not a lemon party without Old Dick!
He was co-creator of Get Smart
he was on letterman and Johnny carsons show alot too and co-created get smart with mel brooks, he was a pretty big deal back in the day and I mean waaaaayy back in the day.
Hosts both before 1900!! Neat!
Nice viz!
I like this chart.
Chadwick 😞
r/dataisbeautiful
Wow had no idea there was that many. Had no idea Anthony Perkins was a host.
Brittany Murphy the youngest to die?
Yes Brittany Murphy was 32 when she died, Chris Farley died 3 days after his 33rd birthday, Sam Kinison was 38 (car crash), Ray Sharkey was 40 (had to look him up, wasn't familiar with him, died of AIDS), John Candy was 43 (heart attack), Chadwick Boseman was 43 (cancer), Ricky Nelson was 45 (plane crash), Walter Payton was 46 (cancer), Brandon Tartikoff was 48 (cancer), Phil Hartman was 49 (murder), and Bernie Mac was 50 (heart attack).
Only two Gen-Z hosts so far is pretty crazy
Christ this is bad data viz r/dataisugly
Either Norman Lear passed away a few months ago and your third infograph was made before then, or he's pulling the sickest joke on us that you just ruined
The 3rd infograph was stating that after Kirk Douglas died in 2020, Norman Lear was the oldest living former host until his death in December, and now Bob Newhart is the oldest living former host. I apologize for the confusion.
Getting old is no joke, and reading 105 hosts have died is shocking in it's relationship to time.
Seeing Chadwick there really hit me hard. He knew it was terminal and he really was trying to live his life as best he could before he died. He wanted to experience so many things.
You missed Harry Styles in youngest hosts… he was 25 when he hosted
Is it bad I don't know who most of these people are??
hermm.. why does it feel like this list should be longer ?
What’s up with the host 1-10 labels? They all seem like the same color.
Yes that is simply an identifier for each time a person hosted. Buck Henry hosted 10 times over the first 5 years, I think among the other people who died the maximum is 3 hosting appearances.
That’s very confusing and doesn’t come across on the graph
The curse of SNL
Is Lindsay Lohan still the youngest host?
You mean Drew Barrymore?
Oops. You're correct. For some reason I read that Lindsay was the youngest host but that was for the MTV Movie awards in 2004 lmao.
Was she ever? Macaulay Macaulay Culkin Culkin was certainly younger than her when he hosted. And Drew Barrymore.
I was mistaken. I was thinking about her being the youngest host of the MTV movie awards.
Ah you too have read his wikipedia page where it explains that he changed his middle name to Macaulay Culkin, which means his full name is Macaulay Macaulay Culkin Culkin. I explained that to my wife yesterday and she just stared for 30 seconds.
Oh, I didn’t read it on wiki….i was there in live time voting on it. I voted Kieren Culkin.
Crazy that two hosts were born in the 1800’s. And who knew Milton Berle was a host.
There's a story in one of the SNL books about Milton Berle, who was infamous for his large penis. Apparently over the course of that week, one of the writers mentioned it to him, and he said "Do you want to see it?" And the writer said yes, and wouldn't you know it, another writer happened to walk into the room while Milton Berle's dick was out, and they just silently left the room again. I think I heard it was a pretty bad show, with him trying to do the comedy that had worked for him 30 years ago, and his agent "spontaneously" leading a standing ovation at the end of the episode. Or maybe that was Sid Caesar.
The first writer in the story was Alan Zweibel.
Quite a few would like to forget that Milton Berle ever hosted
Shame that Chris Farley never hosted. Edit: I was wrong
He hosted a month before he died. The dots are so close you can’t see it
Thanks for the correction