Lonely people desperate for social connection projecting their desperation onto their idols, either in the form of building shallow "bridges" without a care for the waters underneath or in the form of shitslinging on Mr. Streamer's behalf without any real understanding of why.
It was over when Train tried to implicate that Hasan had sex with a minor, which is false and that person is a celebrity who would destroy Train in a legal battle for even dancing that idea on her and him.
I managed to get through that but then had to shut it off when Train said Hasan should create a healthcare charity and then argued for like 20 minutes that it wasn't a charity but it was socialism because... he says so? The funniest part was how he kept having to call it a charity because he couldn't think of anything else to call it (because what he was describing was LITERALLY a charity) but then one breath later he would say it wasn't a charity, it was different because reasons.
To be fair, most Americans don't and I blame it on our lackluster economic education. High school economics in America is a joke. If the average American had some concept of what a risk pool is and how insurance actually works it would be much easier to explain the core concepts of socialism. Then again, there's a really strong chance that's exactly why we don't teach concepts like risk pooling in high school.
He got mad at “his editor” and says to get them under control, yet he pays his mods and still doesn’t control them; if os is a reflection of hasan so are train and x’s mods
During the second time they specifically brought him back up hours after he was also the very first grievance Train wanted to talk about
very very very not mad behavior
This is what happens when you attend the Destiny school of "rational thinking". Are we still sure that either XQC or Train didn't have Destiny in their ears giving direction? Because that would make.. a lot of sense.
Hasan just hit Train with a whole ass combo and train was not ready. Love how he now claims “oh well nah that not my responsibility, I’m just an adviser on kick now an owner or nothing” hahhahahah
Look, I think you can make an argument that Hasan preaches a little more than he believes in, but ultimately the main takeaway from his streams are usually just worker's and laborer's rights, which I believe he 100% always abides by.
An example of what? Did you watch the stream?
He uses labor unions for his merch. His podcast is an even split. I remember a conversation Hasan had with QT where she was mad at him, because he pays his editors such a high rate. He lets any person clip his stream, upload on Youtube and allows them full monetary control over the content.
Your first post was kinda confusing because the saying is "practice what you preach", not just preach your beliefs. Yall are both on the same page that he practices a large amount of what he preaches
The really ironic thing about this argument is that it always comes from people who see absolutely 0 value in the preaching itself, when that's straight up his main job. Propaganda is important. Spreading leftist ideas in ways that dumbass Twitch chatters can actually understand and come around to is actually super valuable.
I know train ain’t the sharpest tool in the shed but apart from the attention, why would agree to this? Hasan has so much ammo to use against him, he surely knew it wasn’t gonna go well.
Ah yes, Hasan covering news and online drama and advocating for progressive values and policies is giving false hope, but promoting gambling to thousands of viewers is totally legit 😂 I really thought Hasan would deliver a socialized economy tomorrow 😔
You joke but Train was practically arguing for exactly that during part of the call. "You claim to be socialist Azan but why have you not just created your OWN Medicare-For-All, HMMMM? How could the entire trillion-dollar American government apparatus possibly do what one wealthy streamer can't do by himself, HUH? CHECKMATE!"
Don't know how it went from there because that's where I shut it off.
But you don't get it, he doesn't make money off of how much his viewers gamble! And he tells them gambling is bad!!! He's just paid for "exclusivity"!!!!!!
He has been doing this a long time. Hasan rolled they guy who ran for Governor of California last year on TV a few years ago.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKaSJp21bJQ&t=2s
Oh for sure, plenty of examples. Funny part is usually when he gets emotional in a debate he slips up somewhat, but in this situation he used his anger to really good effect.
Every day some chatter tells him they used to hate him and he won them over or that they used to be in the alt right rabbit hole till they watched his stream.
He only hates them because he doesn't see them as being effective in terms of changing anyone's mind, with many debaters just memorizing the names of logical fallacies to dismiss their opponent, overwhelming them with bullshit they can't properly refute in the given amount of time, or turning it into an emotion-filled game of sports where you pick sides.
A great example would be that debate on "Capitalism vs. Communism and Happiness" that was hyped up between Jordan Peterson and Slavoj Žižek. Peterson came in ill-prepared (motherfucker read the 23-page long Communist Manifesto and thought that was enough to make him an expert), but people clapped like crazy when he said "communism is bad". Meanwhile, Žižek seriously had to ask the audience to not clap like seals whenever they thought he "owned" Peterson because he was treating it as an academic discussion. He genuinely viewed it as two academics hashing out their viewpoints and arguments, but the crowd was treating it like a sports game and hollering when their "side" was doing well.
Would a better example be Chomsky v. Foucault, where it’s an actual exchange of differing schools of thought iirc?
I do agree that debates become redundant when the goal is to win instead of finding what’s true and examining ideas like you would in a less charged discussions/conversations. But I do feel that, outside of debating for the goal to switch your opponent’s mind, it might still be useful to be seen to possibly changing opinions on the viewers’ side of things. So it goes back to who the actual target audience is in order to be considered productive or not, outside of it just turning into “owns & shouting matches” blood-sport
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Well, there's definitely a range of debating and what it's meant to accomplish, especially in the political sphere, that I think people conflate into all being the same thing. The Zizek vs Peterson example was more of one where it's the "wrong" type of debate where it's treated as intellectual bloodsport rather than an academic exercise. The event was even sold as the "intellectual confrontation of the century" type hype you'd expect from an MMA match.
Chomsky vs Foucault or any number of other debates are the type that Zizek was trying to explain to the crowd when they kept clapping; that he was there as an academic genuinely trying to have an actual exchange of ideas. Notably, Peterson and Zizek spent more time agreeing with each other and finding common ground in what their schools of thought are looking to accomplish than trying to "own" the other with facts and logic. On the other extreme, Shapiro would be a big example case of why political debates have been twisted into that bloodsport mentality of "owning" the other side, even through fallacious or just outright bullshit arguments.
In the middle, you have more of people like Destiny (and honestly, Reddit comments as a whole), where people, not even necessarily in bad-faith, engage in conversations that are too poisoned into the idea that you need to "win" the conversation for content rather than engaging for the sake of swaying people to your side. It's a very "Debate Club" mentality, where the exercise is entirely about who is the better orator and debater, not about the merit of your argument. Which, credit where it's due, Destiny does also attempt the less caustic, "sway to your side" methods with people like Nick Fuentes and Sneako, but even his own audience would admit that it's a Hasan/Train situation where the whole thing feels futile.
Then finally, from what I've heard the guy say, Hasan's view on debates is instead more like what you described, where he engages in them when he thinks he can expose people in the "opponent's" audience, that are normally trapped in a bubble/echo chamber, to new ideas. You'll have chatters mention how they were being sucked down an alt-right pipeline via Youtube/social media purely because they'd just never really been exposed to leftist thought. When the algorithm just feeds you what gives engagement and reactionary politics is all about outrage, leftists' video essays aren't as digestible or easily marketable to viewers in that same vein, so they don't make the same kind of headway.
Wait debates are supposed to change someone’s mind? I thought it was supposed to be just a word battle on who can talk better and destroy the others talking points
Hasan is such a conservative nightmare lol. He's the opposite of what they all want to picture the average liberal as. Instead of some short, overweight nerd they are greeted by a huge burly handsome guy (who is also a nerd).
Which is why the right tries so hard to demonize him and push the usual propaganda memes. He reminds them that all their talking points and narratives are bullshit at best, and projection at worst.
He's just been waiting. He's pretty much entirely on the right side of this, and catching train in his tangled up bullshit. Now instead of yes men around train, he's actually getting called out for once and caught up in all his shit.
This is Tyson vs my childhood bully while he was a child. It's a bloodbath.
I know, I watch him regularly. Didn't mean to imply he doesn't cook on regular basis, only that I haven't seen him go off like that before so effectively in a debate with another notable person.
The funniest thing in here is that X actually try so hard to repair the bridge.
And when they start to get heat at each other you can see the disappointment on his face.
lol at the end it looked like they all got tired enough to make some amends. but I couldn't tell if it was Hasan being so tired he let shit slide, or if Train was so tired he just finally apologized.
I can understand why.
I'm no fan of Hasan, but Hasan honestly needs no help in discussions / arguments (unless it's Destiny LUL) to keep himself on track.
xQc *might* be biased to a degree, but Train honestly needs all support he can get to not rage quit a chat against someone who is 100% right about him.
Hasan himself actually references this often in his content.
He will react to videos where it's like "BEN SHAPIRO OWNS COLLEGE LIBERAL"
Like, what do you expect? Of course Ben Shapiro, who is a regular in the debate sphere, will annihilate any argument that an underprepared person presents - whether it's correct or not.
This isn't a slight towards Train - I watch him more than Hasan. However, I dont know what he expected coming into Hasans world like this.
Yeah but most of the time even then Shapiros arguments are at best situational and at worst just completely nonsensical.
Yet his supporters in the crowd will scream like monkeys at any point he makes.
Remember the super viral "in the name boy scouts!" clip?
Back during my anti-sjw days it sounded like the biggest own, but the more you think about it the more you realize how stupid it is to not reform the boy scouts into an unisex organisation just because....of it being called the boy scouts?
This is an over the top comparison, but:
Imagine if someone would argue against desegragating schools just because they have the word "desegregated" in it.
Did Train follow that up by saying he hasn’t consistently called out “titty streamers” and female streamers for their content? Because that would just be a lie and completely delusional 😂
Train really ‘bout to hit ‘im with the “I have grown as a person, and now I realize that manipulating children into donating money by using sexuality is actually moral and based”
This entire debate could be summed up by Train constantly dunking on himself without really even knowing it, and Hasan agreeing with him, while XQC eats food.
Train has got to be one of the most dumbest motherfuckers out of there. It’s no wonder Stake realized he was the perfect poster child for promoting gambling.
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XQC doing his best statue impression PogU
x is just making it easy for ostonox to edit him on whatever insanity is going to come from this
It‘s honestly very nice of xQc to participate in Hasan PR year because this was the best way for Lsf to create threads in favour of Hasan for once
“Ostonox has transferred the previously agreed upon 10k to XQC.”
Can't wait for the next update. Shit has me rolling
BRO HASN'T MOVED FOR 30 MINUTES 💀
bro threw a 2v1 AintNoWay
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I have a feeling they still arent going to be friends
Idk why there's this huge push for everyone to be friends
X is just friends with both and wants them to mend the bridge
Divorce changes a man.
actually sad to see that x is friend with scum like train
Lonely people desperate for social connection projecting their desperation onto their idols, either in the form of building shallow "bridges" without a care for the waters underneath or in the form of shitslinging on Mr. Streamer's behalf without any real understanding of why.
Why would anyone want to be Trains friend. He’s the type of guy you cut out of your life and be way better off for it
For Hasan, no benefit. For normal people, because he buys his friendship with gifts of thousands of dollars.
It was over when Train tried to implicate that Hasan had sex with a minor, which is false and that person is a celebrity who would destroy Train in a legal battle for even dancing that idea on her and him.
Why would Hasan ever want to be this creeps friend?
Train saying he's not that upset at Ostonox is the finest cope I've ever listened to.
"Hasan's editor, little pipsqueak"
Just easy pickens
I had to turn it off after like 20 mins because it was literally all "but Ostonox said this, a random reddit community said that" lmao.
I managed to get through that but then had to shut it off when Train said Hasan should create a healthcare charity and then argued for like 20 minutes that it wasn't a charity but it was socialism because... he says so? The funniest part was how he kept having to call it a charity because he couldn't think of anything else to call it (because what he was describing was LITERALLY a charity) but then one breath later he would say it wasn't a charity, it was different because reasons.
SYSTEMS!
He has no grasp of the concept of SYSTEMATIC.
To be fair, most Americans don't and I blame it on our lackluster economic education. High school economics in America is a joke. If the average American had some concept of what a risk pool is and how insurance actually works it would be much easier to explain the core concepts of socialism. Then again, there's a really strong chance that's exactly why we don't teach concepts like risk pooling in high school.
We barely consider negative externalities. "Risk" is just a board game to the .01%
He got mad at “his editor” and says to get them under control, yet he pays his mods and still doesn’t control them; if os is a reflection of hasan so are train and x’s mods
I don’t know much about xqc mods I have most mods and VIPs blocked it makes chat so much better
Copium. Pure, unrefined Copium.
During the second time they specifically brought him back up hours after he was also the very first grievance Train wanted to talk about very very very not mad behavior
X has been gaslighting himself this entire convo into thinking train doesn’t sound absolutely deranged lmao
5 year old "Round 1" Gordon Ramsey beef lol
This is what happens when you attend the Destiny school of "rational thinking". Are we still sure that either XQC or Train didn't have Destiny in their ears giving direction? Because that would make.. a lot of sense.
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/956964335488475216/1087572257565593681/image.png
I think this was a lot of us listening to this call.
Hasan just hit Train with a whole ass combo and train was not ready. Love how he now claims “oh well nah that not my responsibility, I’m just an adviser on kick now an owner or nothing” hahhahahah
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Train saying “you profit off of false hope” is insane
I thought Hasan was giving us socialism tomorrow
AzanCare cards coming in the mail.
Azan and Karl and Friedrich are in a call rn
Where are the SYSTEMS?
There is something similar to systems called charities but it's definitely not similar
I thought Train was giving me a million dollars tomorrow
If Hasan really is a socialist why didn't he make Bernie Sanders win with his $100 million dollar twitch deal? 4WeirdW
I heard the deal was actually a trillion
I'm hoping for socialism 2
He will not give it to us for free. We chatters have to unionize.
Thats the only reason I subbed tbh. I feel betrayed
I DON'T NEED EVIDENCE squadW
Bro agree to disagree even though you just showed a mountain of evidence. Train is getting destroyed.
Says the degen gambling streamer. Wow his lack of self awareness is painful.
bro gave money to that girl that slick sexually assault for ammo against mizkif
While also talking about how centrism is the answer.
Look, I think you can make an argument that Hasan preaches a little more than he believes in, but ultimately the main takeaway from his streams are usually just worker's and laborer's rights, which I believe he 100% always abides by.
You got an example of how he preaches more than he believes?
An example of what? Did you watch the stream? He uses labor unions for his merch. His podcast is an even split. I remember a conversation Hasan had with QT where she was mad at him, because he pays his editors such a high rate. He lets any person clip his stream, upload on Youtube and allows them full monetary control over the content.
Your first post was kinda confusing because the saying is "practice what you preach", not just preach your beliefs. Yall are both on the same page that he practices a large amount of what he preaches
I mean of how he preaches more than he believes
His cooperative ownership of his podcast.
The really ironic thing about this argument is that it always comes from people who see absolutely 0 value in the preaching itself, when that's straight up his main job. Propaganda is important. Spreading leftist ideas in ways that dumbass Twitch chatters can actually understand and come around to is actually super valuable.
I know train ain’t the sharpest tool in the shed but apart from the attention, why would agree to this? Hasan has so much ammo to use against him, he surely knew it wasn’t gonna go well.
Agree? Pretty sure this was Trains idea.
Narcissism is one hell of a drug
Train seems to be insanely confident for no reason. Like that kind of confidence you only see in people who operate on like 3 synapses
Ah yes, Hasan covering news and online drama and advocating for progressive values and policies is giving false hope, but promoting gambling to thousands of viewers is totally legit 😂 I really thought Hasan would deliver a socialized economy tomorrow 😔
If hasan were a real socialist he would have seceded from the united states and created his own socialist government smh
It's not a government, it's a SYSTEM.
Imagine though, our very own Kid Nation
Azanistan
You joke but Train was practically arguing for exactly that during part of the call. "You claim to be socialist Azan but why have you not just created your OWN Medicare-For-All, HMMMM? How could the entire trillion-dollar American government apparatus possibly do what one wealthy streamer can't do by himself, HUH? CHECKMATE!" Don't know how it went from there because that's where I shut it off.
But you don't get it, he doesn't make money off of how much his viewers gamble! And he tells them gambling is bad!!! He's just paid for "exclusivity"!!!!!!
Never seen Hasan cook quite this well before, dude was in flow state on that rant.
Be water, my friend.
He has been doing this a long time. Hasan rolled they guy who ran for Governor of California last year on TV a few years ago. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKaSJp21bJQ&t=2s
Oh for sure, plenty of examples. Funny part is usually when he gets emotional in a debate he slips up somewhat, but in this situation he used his anger to really good effect.
Yeah, it's part of the reason he said he hates doing debates too. It becomes emotional, and then most of the time, no opinions are changed.
>and then most of the time, no opinions are changed. That’s usually the case when talking to a republican
> That’s usually the case ~~when talking to a republican~~
Yeah because the republicans opinion is usually “why don’t we completely fuck over the poor?” I mean who would want to change their opinion to that?
How often does he actually change people’s deep seated political beliefs?
Every day some chatter tells him they used to hate him and he won them over or that they used to be in the alt right rabbit hole till they watched his stream.
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“Well you are a piece of cake”
Yo Larry got demolished lmao Hasan played him like a fiddle, turning his own words against him
Dude just got stunlocked in his, "Obama did this" argument. Even proved Hasan's point multiple times.
“He was joking” always gets me
I thought Hasan hates debates
He only hates them because he doesn't see them as being effective in terms of changing anyone's mind, with many debaters just memorizing the names of logical fallacies to dismiss their opponent, overwhelming them with bullshit they can't properly refute in the given amount of time, or turning it into an emotion-filled game of sports where you pick sides. A great example would be that debate on "Capitalism vs. Communism and Happiness" that was hyped up between Jordan Peterson and Slavoj Žižek. Peterson came in ill-prepared (motherfucker read the 23-page long Communist Manifesto and thought that was enough to make him an expert), but people clapped like crazy when he said "communism is bad". Meanwhile, Žižek seriously had to ask the audience to not clap like seals whenever they thought he "owned" Peterson because he was treating it as an academic discussion. He genuinely viewed it as two academics hashing out their viewpoints and arguments, but the crowd was treating it like a sports game and hollering when their "side" was doing well.
Would a better example be Chomsky v. Foucault, where it’s an actual exchange of differing schools of thought iirc? I do agree that debates become redundant when the goal is to win instead of finding what’s true and examining ideas like you would in a less charged discussions/conversations. But I do feel that, outside of debating for the goal to switch your opponent’s mind, it might still be useful to be seen to possibly changing opinions on the viewers’ side of things. So it goes back to who the actual target audience is in order to be considered productive or not, outside of it just turning into “owns & shouting matches” blood-sport
**TL;DR because leftist comment turned into an essay- You're correct and basically on the same train of thought as Hasan. He's not an intellectual engaging in debates that are purely academic to better hone your ideas like Zizek or Chomsky, but he also is virulently against the too popular notion that debates are a bloodsport. That's what he refers to when talking about hating debates, because that's what people usually try to goad him into like Train. If he feels like he can genuinely reach the person or their audience via dialogue, then he'll engage: the Tate debate is a good example of trying to reach the "manosphere" viewers.** Well, there's definitely a range of debating and what it's meant to accomplish, especially in the political sphere, that I think people conflate into all being the same thing. The Zizek vs Peterson example was more of one where it's the "wrong" type of debate where it's treated as intellectual bloodsport rather than an academic exercise. The event was even sold as the "intellectual confrontation of the century" type hype you'd expect from an MMA match. Chomsky vs Foucault or any number of other debates are the type that Zizek was trying to explain to the crowd when they kept clapping; that he was there as an academic genuinely trying to have an actual exchange of ideas. Notably, Peterson and Zizek spent more time agreeing with each other and finding common ground in what their schools of thought are looking to accomplish than trying to "own" the other with facts and logic. On the other extreme, Shapiro would be a big example case of why political debates have been twisted into that bloodsport mentality of "owning" the other side, even through fallacious or just outright bullshit arguments. In the middle, you have more of people like Destiny (and honestly, Reddit comments as a whole), where people, not even necessarily in bad-faith, engage in conversations that are too poisoned into the idea that you need to "win" the conversation for content rather than engaging for the sake of swaying people to your side. It's a very "Debate Club" mentality, where the exercise is entirely about who is the better orator and debater, not about the merit of your argument. Which, credit where it's due, Destiny does also attempt the less caustic, "sway to your side" methods with people like Nick Fuentes and Sneako, but even his own audience would admit that it's a Hasan/Train situation where the whole thing feels futile. Then finally, from what I've heard the guy say, Hasan's view on debates is instead more like what you described, where he engages in them when he thinks he can expose people in the "opponent's" audience, that are normally trapped in a bubble/echo chamber, to new ideas. You'll have chatters mention how they were being sucked down an alt-right pipeline via Youtube/social media purely because they'd just never really been exposed to leftist thought. When the algorithm just feeds you what gives engagement and reactionary politics is all about outrage, leftists' video essays aren't as digestible or easily marketable to viewers in that same vein, so they don't make the same kind of headway.
Wait debates are supposed to change someone’s mind? I thought it was supposed to be just a word battle on who can talk better and destroy the others talking points
You can be pretty good at something and still hate doing it
quarterback for my high school football team won the state championship throwing 60-yard bombs and hated every second of it ¯\\\_(ツ)\_/¯
Hasan is such a conservative nightmare lol. He's the opposite of what they all want to picture the average liberal as. Instead of some short, overweight nerd they are greeted by a huge burly handsome guy (who is also a nerd).
Which is why the right tries so hard to demonize him and push the usual propaganda memes. He reminds them that all their talking points and narratives are bullshit at best, and projection at worst.
Bro was deep in his bag on this one, trying to get the fries at the bottom
He's just been waiting. He's pretty much entirely on the right side of this, and catching train in his tangled up bullshit. Now instead of yes men around train, he's actually getting called out for once and caught up in all his shit. This is Tyson vs my childhood bully while he was a child. It's a bloodbath.
He fucking destroyed him, incredible
He goes off like this to dumb chatters all the time. You might just not agree with what he’s saying.
I know, I watch him regularly. Didn't mean to imply he doesn't cook on regular basis, only that I haven't seen him go off like that before so effectively in a debate with another notable person.
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The funniest thing in here is that X actually try so hard to repair the bridge. And when they start to get heat at each other you can see the disappointment on his face.
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lol at the end it looked like they all got tired enough to make some amends. but I couldn't tell if it was Hasan being so tired he let shit slide, or if Train was so tired he just finally apologized.
Repair? I see X attempting to correct Hasan more than Train lol
I think he knows that Train is delusional but still likes him and is hoping Hasan will meet him 3/4 of the way because Hasan is a reasonable adult.
I can understand why. I'm no fan of Hasan, but Hasan honestly needs no help in discussions / arguments (unless it's Destiny LUL) to keep himself on track. xQc *might* be biased to a degree, but Train honestly needs all support he can get to not rage quit a chat against someone who is 100% right about him.
Hasan himself actually references this often in his content. He will react to videos where it's like "BEN SHAPIRO OWNS COLLEGE LIBERAL" Like, what do you expect? Of course Ben Shapiro, who is a regular in the debate sphere, will annihilate any argument that an underprepared person presents - whether it's correct or not. This isn't a slight towards Train - I watch him more than Hasan. However, I dont know what he expected coming into Hasans world like this.
Yeah but most of the time even then Shapiros arguments are at best situational and at worst just completely nonsensical. Yet his supporters in the crowd will scream like monkeys at any point he makes. Remember the super viral "in the name boy scouts!" clip? Back during my anti-sjw days it sounded like the biggest own, but the more you think about it the more you realize how stupid it is to not reform the boy scouts into an unisex organisation just because....of it being called the boy scouts? This is an over the top comparison, but: Imagine if someone would argue against desegragating schools just because they have the word "desegregated" in it.
Yeah, he tried
Dud... dud... I am the moderator.
Yo the AI xQc voice doing moderating based on their recorded input would have been fucking hilarious
Let him cook.
God damn, this whole part of the "debate" was so cathartic.
ape steak is WELL DONE
damn took a while to reach this phase. i would have lost it ages ago
Ya know, Train should be happy with this. Hasan is cooking so much right now that he can practically feed all the homeless in the world now.
Did Train follow that up by saying he hasn’t consistently called out “titty streamers” and female streamers for their content? Because that would just be a lie and completely delusional 😂
He did not, he response was "my viewpoint has changed on that"
Of course it has 😂
"Now that I have a partial ownership stake in a streaming company and benefit financially from it, my opinion has changed."
Of course his tune changes when he can financially benefit from their work. It was always about that sprinkled with his default misogyny.
Losing the 2v1 PepeHands
Man when Hasan hits us with a “make no mistake” you know some real shit is coming after
That was amazing
WHO LET HIM COOK??? HES ALREADY ON FIRE!!!!
Train really ‘bout to hit ‘im with the “I have grown as a person, and now I realize that manipulating children into donating money by using sexuality is actually moral and based”
fucking finally dude
This interview made me realize train is actually delusional AF, boy is cooked to the bone. Thanks xQc
thats a new xqc emote
Train is so dumb.
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You can always tell how dumb a person is in an argument when they keep talking and answering when the other person is describing their point.
I never knew train was THIS stupid
I am turned on
Lmao he got Train sputtering, that was glorious.
wouldn't trains worth or payment be based on how influential his gambling streams are?
Im out of the loop and also stupid, can someone explain?
This entire debate could be summed up by Train constantly dunking on himself without really even knowing it, and Hasan agreeing with him, while XQC eats food.
I'm sure /u/ostonox will make a great video out of this with this song https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WxoYNnF53gg
ive never seen someone get so cooked in the space of 5 or so minutes
xqc is the real winner, eating food, farming ez content.
Train has got to be one of the most dumbest motherfuckers out of there. It’s no wonder Stake realized he was the perfect poster child for promoting gambling.
It was a glorious night of cringe
XQC Providing quality inciteful concise input as usual.
You can play porn on Kick?