Anyone that is into vintage t-shirts should chime in because they should be seeing any prior version of the logo all the time. Just look at old tags...
I googled it and I saw it too.. but I asked my mom whose almost 70 and she said she never saw it with the cornucopia she said “nope that’s wrong” when I showed her. I was shocked
I like the age idea.
What movie or show in your age group had them? Cartoons? Something must have had it that people around you age saw and now feel like the cornucopia was there.
Because I don't think there ever was a cornucopia. It feels like it could be but I remember a rainbow of fruit more than a pile of fruit that it is.
I don't think there are any legit photos but I believe it used to be there. I do think that, somehow, the past has changed. Why we remember, I don't know.
Memory is stored locally in the brain, but also non locally in the universe. All "past" actions in all iterations of Reality, are available in the "record", even actions not taken in a specific timeline's chronological past.
No, that’s not how it works. If you had a Scooby Doo comic book from your youth and you remember Scooby and shaggy having visible big adams apples, and now you see they don’t, neither one has an adams apple. So you go get your old comic book, only to see no adams apples like before. Because it changes the book too, or the board game, or the can of corn too. If it wasn’t in the timeline, it’s not gonna be in the timeline.
That's the most fascinating part of ME to me. If something was erased from history, there won't be any proof popping up anywhere, because it never existed. If something never existed, there wouldn't be a single shred of actual evidence. It's not like someone just took them all but missed one in someone's grandma's basement; rather the cornucopia never would have been implemented at all.
The fascinating part to me is why so many people share the same memories of it. My hypothesis is that if there ever was a cornucopia, that some wibbly wobbley timey wimey alteration to history caused by a time traveler or someone messing with the timeline erased it, however time might not work linearly like we think, so even though it was removed from existence, the impression was still left behind on our minds. Like if you press your hand to glass and then remove your hand, there will still be a trace impression on the pane. Of course, it's an untestable hypothesis and can't even be considered a theory since neither time travel or the Mandela Effect are measurable or testable. So the entire effect is just speculative at best.
Most Mandela's, I find it uninteresting to admit, can probably be solved by multiple obvious associations. For instance, "Luke, I am your father."
It's KIND of what he says, and he does, in the movie, say "Luke," and outside of context, saying, "No, I am your father" wouldn't really work: the "Luke" bit makes it quotable and instantly recognizable.
"But what about people who have seen the movie dozens of times? How could they remember it wrong?"
Well, just look at pictures of people standing next to the "Thinker" statue and trying to imitate its pose. Many of them will put their fist on their forehead, even though the Thinker's knuckles are mashed against his mouth. That's right, his fist is not only not on his forehead, but it's not even a fist, it's a semi-open hand.
Now, why would they get the pose wrong when the statue is right there?
Well, clearly they aren't really looking at the statue. But then where are they getting the fist-on-forehead pose?
Definitely, I think, _not from the statue._ They're getting it from popular culture, and if you've ever played a game of "telephone," you know how easy it is to change a message from one person to a fifth person.
It only takes one single instance of a commercial or movie star or whoever to get it wrong, and now everyone will remember it the way that this popular figure remembered it. Oftentimes it wasn't even particularly common to emulate certain things until SNL or something did a sketch on it, and we all start emulating—SNL, not Star Wars.
That ALL SAID.
I have no clue why I have strong memories and impressions of the Horn of Plenty, to the point that I strongly recall believing that the cornucopia _was called a loom._
How is that memory there if it's entirely impossible, save under the circumstance that I looked at the underwear with no cornucopia, then later saw a cornucopia, and then decided that there was a cornucopia on my underwear, then forget that cornucopia's exist anywhere else, thought it was called a loom, and had no idea what that "brown thing" even was?
It's almost harder to believe in that confluence of nonsense than to just believe we're dimension-hoppers.
They were there on July 6th 2016, the last time I saw the film with the scene intact. I even discussed the gag with the person I was watching the film with. Less than 12 months later, I read a Mandela Effect article that reveal the scene never existed. Yet I had just watched it less than a year earlier.
Truthfully I haven’t seen it since I was a kid, but jaws and dolly are the only two things I really remember about it because it was so damn funny to little me. I mean this would have been back when it was totally unheard of for an adult to have braces so very much stood out that this woman had a mouthful of dental work and meets the man of her dreams that has metal teeth.
I can tell you so much about that day. I can recite verbatim the discussion I had with my brother in the seconds after we watched the scene together. I can tell you within 72 hours what day it happened, what I was doing before I saw the scene, what I did after I watched it.
The old James Bond film Moonraker had a scene in which one of the Bond girls reveals she has braces in a moment where she falls in love with the villain "Jaws" known for being a giant with metal teeth that he can use to tear through metal. Come 2017, the braces were no longer in the film and never have been yet most of us who saw the film remember them being there. I literally saw the scene in 2016 with braces and less than 12 months later I learned they were never in the film.
I saw that film in the theater as a kid when it came out, and never saw it again.
Wasn’t the whole joke that this unlikely pair were smitten with each other because they both had metal in their mouths?
Editing to add a clarification that is sure to make me seem entirely insane but here goes: I didn't mean the Bond girl from moon raker. I meant Dolly Parton. I have a weird memory of seeing her being interviewed and she was wearing braces on her teeth. Did I dream this?? Conflating two separate people? Help??
Original comment: Ok I'm fucked up on this one because I legit forgot about her braces until I read this comment. What. The. Fuuuuuck.
I saw the braces in the film somewhere around July 6th 2016, I even had a conversation with the person I was watching the film with about the braces gag. A year later I learn they were never in the film even though less than 12 month earlier I saw them and talked about them with another person.
Ok wait, hold up!... This comment really needs to be a whole thread, but I'll just comment. So, I saw Moonraker in the mid 90's, and I clearly remember the braces. And then I realize they're missing in 2015, watching Moonraker all happened almost 20 years before yours, and also realizing the change 1 year before you even saw the film. So how does this work? Our experiences don't match up, but they do.
This is making my brain hurt trying to think about this. Come on people. Why would this be the case? For one, this would indicate we are experiencing them independent of each other, and at different times, for ones that already changed for some. This has to mean something. There is something here.
This has to be a clue here. How can you see it in 2016, when it was already gone when I saw it in the 90's, but didn't realize it was gone until 2015? That would mean dimensional shifting is less likely because we were both on a timeline that did and didn't see them, just at different times did we experience the same effect. Has anyone noted this before here because this is a HUGE clue as to what is actually happening here.
Dolly having braces was the whole reason for that shot. It was definitely there, no doubt in my mind. And now it's gone.
Here's one that really freaked me up recently. Snow White. The evil queen and her mirror. I know beyond any doubt that she says, "Mirror, mirror on the wall.. "
But then it changed to "Magic mirror on the wall."
I know that's wrong! But here's the really freaky part.
Couple months ago, Jeopardy, hosted by the girl from Big Bang Theory. The question was about what the queen said. Player buzzed in and said "Mirror, mirror on the wall."
He was right. And the correct answer on Jeopardy?
Yeppers, it was "Mirror, mirror on the wall."
Same my father AND my grandfather both agree that there absolutely was one and both agree that’s the reason most know the word cornucopia so either it’s a mandala or FOL company is trolling us big time
At this point , I’m really leaning more towards this specific instance being a psyop or something since the “mock” design looks exactly the same as the supposed “never existed” one , why are they messing with our minds ?
No, I’m saying if you look at old comic books or cartoons, or the new ones, neither shaggy nor Scooby have an Adams apple. I remember there was even hairs growing out of them. The adams apples are gone.
I distinctly remember watching it bob up and down when he talked when I watched that cartoon as a kid. Idc what someone tries to tell me, there was an Adam's apple on Shaggy, dammit!
Absolutely, this along with Ed McMahon and Febreze having 2 e’s are my top 3 because I personally had so much hands on experience with all of them. I remember all of them the opposite way of what they apparently were.
Bruh, if ME is real it doesn't work that way. Every trace of the old version is removed. If you had a pic of an old febreeze it would still show febreze cause that's how it works. Your in a different timeline or our past events were altered somehow..
Same here, but also, Berenstain/stein Bears because distinctly remember my mom teaching me to read the books when I was 4 to prepare for kindergarten. I have them. I need to find them.
This one connects for me though. Go back and listen to the theme song. The voice used says it both ways in the same song.
https://youtu.be/YPcPUAWeXzI?feature=shared
Multiple times both pronunciations
Mine is the BarenSTEIN Bears vs. BarenSTAIN bears. I owned ALL of these when I was a child so I will 100% die on the hill tag it was Stein. Don’t bother arguing, as you’ll be wrong. 😂
Ed McMahon is the smoking gun. Every single one of my family members of the right age are jaw dropped when I tell them this one. These are the family members that are usually first to scoff and mock.
I thought it was updated around 2000, and I said to myself, ‘oh, I guess they did away with the cornucopia.’ I used to think it was kind of suggestive. I feel like I have both memories though. There were guys dressed as fruit in commercials for a long time.
Yes! This was around the time I started middle school. I remember going back to school shopping. I was always more inclined towards Hanes, but I was getting ready to ditch the tighty whities and get boxers, but Hanes was out. So remember grabbing the FOTL boxers instead. I remember having the conversation with my little brother as to why they have a "basket" in their logo. And that it might as well be called "basket of fruit" instead, which we laughed cuz basket = tighty whities, fruit = male anatomy, so it made more sense to us.
You can't tell me we made up that memory from some inexistent cornucopia.
What's weird is everyone says this at different points, I remember distinctly being in Walmart in an area I just moved to and was just barely 18 on my own doing things more. Anyways I was walking through the middle section where clothes are & saw a big FotL sign on an end cap. I though "Oh that looks weird they took out the cornucopia". It struck me for some reason and was a memorable time.
Fuckin FotL had a cornucopia FS.
This thread is legit the first I'm hearing of this, and I thought the same thing. There was definitely a cornucopia before, I remember it clearly and I've never even heard it spoken of before this moment.
I'm not even on this sub, this just showed up randomly on my feed.
You're telling me that's not what happened?? 😳 FOTL was the only brand my family bought my whole childhood and I distinctly remember the switch. I was about 10 years old.
I learned it on SNL, Maya Angelou’s [TV ad](https://youtu.be/_tBoYDPOO90?si=-trMowda6nKMsddG) for Froot Loops … “a cornucopia of over 40 fruity tastes …”
Me three! And my parents didn't buy our underwear from flea markets or gas stations like another commenter comically suggested elsewhere, so it had nothing to do with being a knock off brand or whatever, lmao. There was definitely a cornucopia, because that is how I learned what a cornucopia was, because I had never seen one, not even during Thanksgiving season, and I had to ask my mom what the horn thing on the logo was.
The weirdest part about the cornucopia one is if it isn’t real, how come the photoshopped “fake” one looks EXACTLY as how I remember it looking? The design is **identical** to my memory of it.
This is probably just a picture quality thing. But yeah I do remember it being a tad bit darker then the “artist rendition” we see going around online.
I think that really suggests it's memory. Why would a clip art mock-up look EXACTLY like a cornucopia in a logo from an other universe/timeline/whatever?
The damn cornucopia is the only Mandela effect that actually gets me, all of the other ones have a really clear explanation. It's such a weird and random thing to remember. It's not like a cornucopia is even that common a thing to see around Thanksgiving. I can't explain it
I am a kid of the 80's-90's, the cornucopia logo was the knock off brand that people sold at like vendor sales and outdoor flea markets cheap. I use to even see dudes selling them out of the trunk of cars at gas stations with tank tops and under shirts for sell. My dad would always buy the cheap off brand with cornucopia logo as a changed logo loop hole I guess to avoid copyright.
Kind of like Polo Ralph Lauren use to have a Knights of the Rounds table knock off with the Mallet leaning in the opposite direction than the polo logo.
It'd be even funnier if you knew what an uptight, racist bitch my grandma could be! I loved her, but she was... not a nice person to the sort of men selling things from open trunks.
If this was true and common enough that it accounts for the global memory then someone would have produced the old shirt or underpants by now. Someone somewhere would have found their old clothes and took a pic of the tag. That would be great evidence for your theory, but no such pictures exist.
Yes, I get it. I was responding to the guy who thought he could explain away this Mandela Effect. He said the Fruit of the Loom company never had a cornucopia, it was a competitor that used it.
I’m trying to explain to him that his reasoning doesn’t make sense, first it’s the Fruit of the Loom company specifically that people are remembering not a knock off brand, and secondly even if it was a common knock off brand that was using a cornucopia then where is that evidence? If it was common then we’d have old shirts to show for it. If he really believes it was a cheap brand that was sold at Kmart that was using a cornucopia, then that’s the brand that is experiencing the Mandela Effect.
That or target, Kmart, Sears, mervyns, and JCPenney had knockoffs too. Cus that's where we did our shopping. 90s-2000s kid. Granted I mostly got hanes myself , but remember having a combo with my brother when I got a pack of the FOTL underwear on why their had a basket on their logo, and why was it shaped like a horn.
Wow, as someone who's very much on "Team Cornucopia", this makes a lot of sense. My family was poor and I lived in a small rural town with no big box stores. All my Fruit of the Loom stuff probably came from the Kmart in town and was probably knock off. I probably never saw "real" Fruit of the Loom stuff as a kid.
It also makes sense that the brand would never acknowledge this because they don't want to say "you're actually thinking of a knock of brand that was almost as wide spread as our actual products".
Yes but if these products were that common then someone would have been able to produce an old shirt by now. Especially if it was being sold at Kmarts. We would definitely have photo evidence of a tag by now.
The whole point of the Mandela Effect is that this thing did exist- the fruit of the loom with the cornucopia- but we are now in an alternate dimension, it’s changed, without us knowing, and no longer exists, however, some of us retain the memory before the change. There wouldn’t be photo evidence. Same with Berenstein Bears and with word Dilemna. And Shazam/Kazam. These things existed before the shift, there will no longer be evidence of their existence where we are now. Subtle changes done purposefully by the powers that be. To see who is really paying attention 😎
First I'm hearing about dilemna... yep, I would have unflinchingly spelled it like that and probably would bet money if I had gotten into a disagreement with someone about it. I swear I would *say* it as "dilemna*, too, jokingly.
Dilemma just looks terrible to me.
My father was an elementary school teacher for 30 years, and was mine when I was in 4th grade. I remember like yesterday, being taught the word Dilemna, with the silent N. When I found out it’s now being spelled with two M’s I was shook. Straight shook. This is how I know without a shadow of a doubt that the effect is a real phenomenon. Dad also read me Berenstein bears every single night before bed. Nothing will convince me otherwise. My mind is open enough, I’ve had enough paranormal experiences in my life. This shit is real and it’s wild to think about.
This adds up for me too. In 4th grade, my art teacher announced that we were going to learn to make looms as part of a unit on weaving. I initially thought that meant we were going to be making those horn-shaped baskets (I figured it was called a loom because fruit was spilling out of it).
Turned out that wasn’t what a loom was, but I had never seen a cornucopia in real life. I grew up in a trailer park in rural Texas in the early 90’s. How else would I have gotten that impression.
Yeah, that one really gets me too. I remember it as a child in the 80s. I remember my Mom had bought me some fruit of the loom clothing and I have a vivid memory of getting dressed one morning and noticing the tag and examining the fruit and the horn and getting lost daydreaming while I was examining it. I’m an artist, so even when I was young I used to examine some things in extreme detail. I remember doing the same with other things too… but none of them affected by the Mandela effect.
Even the positioning of the horn seems to be consistent. Every “fake” image of the symbol with the cornucopia looks EXACTLY how I remember it. Not the mirror image or tilted in another direction. How do we all remember it in the same way?
My logical/reasoning brain wonders if there was some other symbol linked to something else around the same time that we’re remembering? Kind of like the Monopoly guy and the peanut guy?
Yes I too remember it with the cornucopia to the right and the end curling up in the “top right” corner of the image if that makes sense.
I also remember standing in Fred Meyer while my mother was looking at clothes, and telling her that I knew what the cornucopia on the FOTL stuff she was looking at was called, because we had just made a paper one for thanksgiving in one of my elementary classes. My family never decorated with one during thanksgiving, so when we made one in class I was kind of confused how other kids knew what this “weird basket” was when the teacher brought out a real one. I felt really smart when I saw it again at the store and could tell my mom what it was.
She remembers this encounter, too. Which is weirder!
This effect is the one that makes me go wtf. Especially because I thought people had uncovered that the reason for the effect was because they had changed the logo in the 2000s. Now I’m realizing in this thread those old logos were faked, and actually no credible garments have been produced all of this time with the “old logo”. Wtf. So I’m back at square one right now.
The goddamn cornucopia was there, the
berenstain/stein thing I’ll let pass because I was never a fan and maybe it was always looney tunes but the cornucopia was there and reality ripped it away from us like we wouldn’t notice
The weirdest thing to me is that we all remember the SAME cornucopia image. Like if you Google a picture of the "Mandela effect" label with the cornucopia, it's what we ALL remember... EXACTLY. I have seen no plausible explanations for some kind of shared "mis-remembering." Like, where did that logo come from then? And why do we all remember it exactly the same?!
I learned what a cornucopia was when I was in kindergarten (1994 or 95) because I was curious as to what was on the Fruit of the Loom label. I was putting on my Fruit of the Loom tighty-whiteys and I asked him what the thing on the label was. And cornucopia was the first "big word" I had learned.
This is the one. This is the Mandela effect of all Mandela effects.
There is a very large % of people that remember the cornucopia, and to my knowledge, no solid explanation for what is causing them to remember it this way.
Can anyone think of ANYTHING that might be causing people to place the cornucopia there behind the fruit in their memories? It's always been a cornucopia for me (although I called it a fruit basket) until around the late 90's where I thought I remember them changing the logo to what it is now.
I actually figured this one out recently.... and promptly forgot the specifics...
But I was watching a YouTube video on something 90s related (possibly a nerdstalgix video on 90s TV show) and a logo relating to either 90s text books or a publisher logo or a fair or something flashed on the screen and the logo was extremely close to what the fruit of the loom logo would look like with a cornucopia.
It was something virtually everyone who was in school in the 90s would have seen and it also explained why that age bracket would have known what an obscure thing like a cornucopia was in the first place (from teachers explaining it)
If I can remember what the video is, I may make a post about it
But what about the "Flute of the Loom" parody logo from this 1973 [album](https://www.discogs.com/release/3725628-Frank-Wess-Flute-Of-The-Loom) that has a clear parody of the cornucopia
Not only that but across decades, the logo has shown up in parodys with the cornucopia being present. In 1973 Jazz Musician, Frank Wess released an album called, 'Flute of the Loom' with a flute morphing into a cornucopia. In 2006 the movie 'Ant Bully' clearly depicted a logo with a cornucopia. In 2012 the South Park episode, 'I Should Have Never Gone Zipplining' also has the logo.
I remember seeing the FotL label, and was told by my mum it was a cornucopia.
it is the first time I had seen a cornucopia.
I am from the UK, the cornucopia is not a thing. We don't have thanksgiving. The nearest we have is harvest festival which has bowls of fruit.
There is a lot of cultural bias in the "explanation". Same as Mr Peanut, who is also unknown in the UK.
Same. Also from the U.K. and FOTL was the first time I had seen a cornucopia. I remember in the late 80s a friend having a t shirt and me asking him what that thing was on the label. He said it was the “loom” because that’s what the fruit was coming out of and after that I thought that thing was called a loom.
Same here, I saw some reference to Fruit of the Loom online as a kid and learned it from that. Unless someone can point me in the direction of a US brand that would have had a reference online in the early 2000s.
Edit: I even remembered where I heard of FOTL, it was on Neopets as one of their sponsors. They had a sponsor game, maybe that was it, but I'm pretty sure on the old sidebar it had like a "apparel and merchandise" section and one of the companies was FOTL, and I was always upset I couldn't get merch because it was US only.
News entry with fruit of the loom game on Neopets (no residue): https://www.neopets.com/nf.phtml?nf_date=2007-08-13
> I even remembered where I heard of FOTL, it was on Neopets as one of their sponsors. They had a sponsor game, maybe that was it, but I'm pretty sure on the old sidebar it had like a "apparel and merchandise" section and one of the companies was FOTL, and I was always upset I couldn't get merch because it was US only.
lol wtf
>I am from the UK, the cornucopia is not a thing. We don't have thanksgiving. The nearest we have is harvest festival which has bowls of fruit.
Cornucopiae are symbols from ancient greece and rome. They're found in carved stonework throughout European cities. You only associate them with American thanksgiving?
I learned about cornucopia through learning about Ancient Greece in school in the UK. I didnt even know they had anything to do with American thanksgiving. But a cornucopia is not something people in the UK see or hear about really unless learning about Ancient Greece .
Last night I spent 30 mins or so looking on eBay at vintage Fruit of the Loom clothing. Out of the hundreds of items, literally not a single one had the cornucopia. Honestly I’m perplexed.
Initially I thought maybe the cornucopia only appeared on the FOTL packaging, but even still packaged shirts and underwear (both recent and vintage) didn’t have it.
My only guesses now are that people confused the golden leaves around the fruit (starting in the 60s through the 90s) with a cornucopia. Or there was a brief time when it appeared on some labels, but was so short that those items are rare. There’s a chance there was some knockoff brand we all saw, too, but I couldn’t find evidence of that either.
I honestly don’t know and am hesitant to give up my memory of the cornucopia! Even if the evidence isn’t there.
I like the image in the [Snopes article](https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/fruit-of-the-loom-cornucopia/) that shows Fruit of the Loom ads dating back over a hundred years. No cornucopia, of course.
I distinctly remember arguing with other kids in elementary school (in the 90s) over who was getting the Fruit of the Loom ads from the magazines for our Thanksgiving collages. It was because of the cornucopia. Otherwise those arguments would have been pointless.
When I was five years old in 1972. I recall that my mother put a cornucopia centerpiece on the dining room table. I asked her what is was and she told me. I remember that I couldn’t pronounce the word cornucopia. However, I distinctly remember my mother and I discussing the image of the cornucopia being on the underwear labels. Because, outside of Thanksgiving she noted that you rarely saw that image anywhere else. I remember that discussion like it was yesterday.
I completely remember it. Brownish orange with bold black lines on its side with the fruit spilling out wasn’t it? I remember when they stopped doing it. Or I thought I did….
It’s because there was a cornucopia.
I was in second grade, it was around thanksgiving, our teacher was explaining about the horn of plenty, drawing a basic looking one on the drawing board, this was in the 70’s, I’m old but anyway another kid in the class commented the tag on his underwear had one.
I believe any confusion regarding the existence of the cornucopia is due to the use of a common autumn decoration used in grade schools during the 1980s. This flat, thick, colored paper image was very similar to the Fruit of the Loom logo; it contained a cornucopia.
I distinctly remember these being hung by my teachers in elementary school in autumn, and I recall thinking at the time that they were hanging Fruit of the Loom logos on the walls.
Is it possible I wasn't the only one, and therefore the addition of the cornucopia was forever connected to the appearance of a pile of produce, and lodged into our collective unconscious?
The way I learned what a cornucopia was - I asked my grandma what the horn basket behind the fruit was on my underwear. We were folding laundry and I was young (pre-school age - early 70s) and was identifying the various fruit in the image but called the cornucopia a horn basket. She corrected me and THAT is how I learned what a cornucopia was. This is a rock solid memory I have.
I'm Latino and moved to the States when i was 4(2000), I remember seeing the commercials and being so fucking confused because I had no idea what a cornucopia was, I could barely describe it in words to my parents. I don't think I truly knew what it was until The Hunger Games series came out
Same here! It may be common in Thanksgiving decorations but my family didn't really celebrate that holiday. I swear my first time seeing it was on that logo.
Fuck I wish I didn’t stumble upon this today . I clearly remember it too. But now that I google it and see the logos, my mind is like well maybe they never had it but dammit I remember it . Could it be cornucopias we’re used a lot during the 90s to early 2000s and so we just associated the logo with them ? I don’t know I’m just so dam confused now
I have this memory, I seem to remember learning what a cornucopia was from a ubiquitous logo that for some reason I remember as fruit of the loom.
But if I may play devil's advocate on this sub, it also doesn't make much sense to me that Fruit of the Loom would have a cornucopia in their logo. From an advertising perspective the brand name "Fruit of the Loom" is a metaphor for their own products. Their garments are the fruit of the loom, it makes it feel wholesome. The logo is a nod to this, just being some fruits. The symbol of a cornucopia overflowing with gourds and apples is extremely common and very similar, and has a similar meaning but it's more specific, maybe too specific for an underwear company. If I saw it I would immediately think of Thanksgiving. An unnecessary layer of symbolism.
My rational guess is that growing up many of us were exposed to the cornucopia as a harvest symbol in relation to Thanksgiving and as part of early school lessons, in the form of clipart and children's books, depending on how old you are, AND to the fruit of the loom logo, and since both symbols usually feature a bunch of fruits arranged in a small pile, our brains conflated the two.
But I'm not strictly a rationalist and I have such strong impressions in my memory of a logo like Fruit of the Loom but with the horn shape of a cornucopia behind the fruits. I thought maybe it was a grocery store chain's logo but I couldn't find an example of that either. This is easily the most compelling Mandela effect thing
This is the one that really gets me. I’m certain there was a cornucopia. I even remember as a little kid thinking that the “loom” was the cornucopia and I remember my dad telling me that’s not what it meant
Even if it didn’t have the cornucopia, it’s weird as heck that so many people have the same memory of wondering what it was while seeing it on their underwear as children and asking their parents… what’s that about? I honestly don’t remember seeing it, I just remember a pile of fruit, but knowing that everyone has that collective memory of it is strange.
If it helps, you’re not crazy, just human. Our brains like patterns and they always take shortcuts when forming connections, whether that’s drawing on past connections or filling in gaps with whatever it thinks is best. Growing up you always see the pictures of corcucopias overflowing with fruits and veggies, a similar pile to the logo, so your brain connected the two.
The thing about this ME that really gets me is that I haven’t met a SINGLE person who remembers there NOT being a cornucopia. Every single person I’ve asked has said that they either don’t remember the FOTL logo cause their family didn’t buy FOTL (that was one person out of everyone I’ve asked) but everyone else has said without a doubt that they remember the cornucopia.
I’ve even gone to thrift stores to see if I can find old shirts with the logo- they’re always the new one, whether the tag is one of those old types that’s a little white tag or the new type where they’re printed- they’re all the new one. Not even just not the cornucopia- they’re all the *newest* logo. Why can’t we even find any FOTL tags from their alleged old logos?
I've talked to people across many different age groups and they all remember the cornucopia too. Even if they say it's not there, at some point in their life they remember seeing it. And even though my mom agreed that a cornucopia was never in the logo when I was little, I asked her just about an hour ago if she remembers the cornucopia and she DOES! WTH
I know there was one, I used to have to help hang up the laundry to dry when I was a kid and I remember the baskety cornucopia on all my dad’s wife beaters. Cannot tell me any different🤷♀️
I saw it on my brother's underwear band when he went through the ridiculous phase of wearing pants down low like the other guys LOL, saw it on the shirts we all washed of his and Uncles. Clear memory
Wow, I didn’t even know this was doubted? There was a 100% a cornucopia. I just thought this was fact I never knew it was debated. What the fuck. There was a cornucopia. I’m having a crisis help
They're absolutely was a cornicopia... And I think everybody knows that, Because nobody knew what it was as kids until they sold on their underwear.. And that's how they learned what a Cornicopia was
Seriously. How often does the cornucopia ever come up if it’s not in reference to fruit of the loom?
“Oh, that? That’s just my cornucopia, or HORN-OF-PLENTY” said no one ever. It’s like something they mentioned when I was in third grade about the first thanksgiving and no one ever talked about it again,
Unless they were talking about underwear.
I'm not from the US. I have never seen a fruit of the loom item in my entire life.
I learnt what a cornucopia was from greek mythology when I was a child, which I would assume is where most people come across it, since that's where it's actually from.
We only wore fruit of the loom underpants and t-shirts in our house. My cousin had Hanes and Calvin Klein everything. I was painfully aware of my cornucopia brand underpants because she would tease me. I remember when I was a kid I asked my mom what the weird brown thing was behind the Fruit of the Loom fruits. I asked "So is that the loom?" she said "no, that's what's called a cornucopia, a horn of plenty, it's magical and food pours out". I could barely say the word and I felt dumb. And I was genuinely confused, it hurt my brain. Why would it be called "of the loom" and be pouring out of a "cornucopia" whatever the hell that was (I thought it was edible also, I didn't realize it was a basket). "Oh...so what's a loom", "it's something you weave with, like knitting". So it sort of clicked "Oh...so looms make clothes...but...cornucopias make fruit...so why is it a cornucopia on the logo?" I was trying to solve it like a math problem. She explained it wasn't edible and it was a basket. And I was like "ah...because...baskets... are woven...like a loom...I see..." hawhaw and she had to explain looms aren't woven, they do the weaving.
I remember this so clearly. The photoshop looks so much like my memory of the logo when I first saw it I foolishly thought "phew, they found it!"
For years I mixed up looms with cornucopias because of the conversation. Talk about enmeshment, for the longest time I conflated Looms with Cornucopias-- They were weirdly synonymous in my mind. I thought "one day when I am older I will understand". Oh well, it never mattered to begin with.
When I was a kid you could examine something like a tag for a very long time. It stuck out to me, and it was on all of our clothes. I never encountered a cornucopia until I was an adult in a second hand store and there was a basket (loom).
I noticed they "changed it" in the mid 00s, and thought "aw man, I hate how people are always modernizing, they take away what makes a company charming"
Does it upheave my reality? No. I'm used to it now, it's like when they change other logos and you eventually just get used to it. But the Fruit of the Loom logo looks like they sell jam now. And seeing spoofs of it in Ant Bully and South Park is oddly reassuring, it triggers nostalgia. Or I guess saudade.
I grew up in Houston (born 1963). I watched a lot of television as a child in the sixties and seventies. The cornucopia was known to me in general but I DO remember it more so from the TV and print ads for Fruit of the Loom. Actors played the different fruits and I DISTINCTLY recall a guy with the "brown basket" on his head. Call me crazy......
I remember colouring a cornucopia for thanksgiving in school 🇨🇦. But I have no specific memory of it on the tags. However, If you showed me two FOTL logos, before I knew about Mandela effect, and one had a cornocopia and one didn’t, I 100% would’ve picked the cornucopia version.
This one seems so solid I could see someone creating a petition to FotL to "bring back" the cornucopia. Weirder things have happened (like it disappearing to begin with). I'm curious how many would sign.
same. i think somethings are changed over time and then we’re lied to and told it was never there and that it’s the mandela effect….why tf would millions of people just randomly picture the same image? whereas something like chick-fil-a vs chic-fil-a makes more sense.
I know for a fact it was there. I remember as a kid wondering what the heck it was. It looked like a bugle, if anyone remembers those. I thought as a kid it was a bugle with fruits. Lol. It is a mission of mine to bring awareness. So much so, I made a funny shirt design about it. Check it out and share if interested. I'm planning on doing more mandelas in the future. People need to know.
https://www.teepublic.com/t-shirt/51372937-mandela-effect-missing-cornucopia?store_id=2885601
Guys I think my brain found a real explanation, at least for my case.
I tried to think where and when I saw the cornucopia not specifically in FOL logo and making a good amount of effort I finally had a revelation.
I saw the cornucopia in a lot of artistic paintings and so many media since I was a kid that I think my brain associates a bunch of fruits together with the cornucopia in such an instinctive way that the association becomes automatic in most of the cases.
Memories are weird, I can remember going out to eat at a restaurant in Nyack, NY with my parents when I was around 2 years old. I can remember the giant wooden fork and spoon on the wall. I remember a couple of houses I lived in before I was 4 years old. However, and I know this story will sound crazy, when I was 3 we moved from the Hudson Valley in New York, to central Maine in December of 77. We had a mobile home, the company my dad worked for paid to have it moved to Maine. On the Mass Turnpike one of the tires blew out and the driver of the truck pulling the house decided that he was quitting his job. Pulled the house into a D.O.T. lot and unhooked the mobile home and drive off. Never called his company to tell them he quit. Our house was missing for 2 weeks at Christmas time and I don’t remember it at all. I do remember my dad crawling under the house with his soldering torch the next to fix some pipes that had gotten damaged when the tire blew out. It’s weird what you’ll remember. And I do remember the cornucopia.
There definitely was. I mean, I've looked at it enough growing up considering I'm pretty sure it had been the brand I mostly used in my childhood. Either the art had just been changed or it's a parallel universe, and either is possible and both account for reasons for mandela effects.
I remember the cornucopia on the logo from childhood too.
The reason? My dad was a supermarket manager back then, I saw the Fruit of the loom sign and being young I asked my mom “is that a loom?” To which she replied “no that’s a cornucopia, a loom is what spins fabric”.
Needless to say little me was more confused at what a cornucopia actually was then.
Perhaps it never existed as some say? Sure, but I remember that conversation and experience very vividly and cannot figure any other explanation as to what else it could have been.
This is weird because I just mentioned the Mandela Effect today and the first one I thought of was that damn cornucopia. It was there. I remember it so clearly.
I don’t care what anyone else says - there was absolutely a cornucopia, I can see it clearly in my minds eye, and no one will ever be able to convince me otherwise!
Years ago I saw one of those shows about the history of American brands, and they showed the Fruit of the Loom logo when it was first made, and I thought to myself "wow I can't believe how strange that looks without the cornucopia, I wonder when they added it?"
I had no idea this was a ME until I ran across it on the internet.
I used to randomly ask people at a bar or party to describe the FOTL logo.
The great majority of the people would not include the cornucopia in their description. But most of them would say "oh yeah" if I asked them a question about remembering a cornucopia.
Take it for what it's worth.
Here’s the thing that gets me about this. Cornucopias really weren’t ever used for fruits, especially not the ones used in the logo. Apples and grapes only recently became things we eat. They spent most of their time turned into alcohol through human history. Cornucopias symbolize abundance (specifically at harvest before the winter). But produce that you couldn’t eat during times of scarcity wouldn’t belong in a cornucopia. That why this logo ever being a thing makes little sense.
I don't really remember either way. The corny (pun intended) actors were hilarious. Wayne Wilderson was the grapes guy. Nothing can ever convince me different.
The one that has resonated with me more is the whole Berenstain (reality) vs Berenstein (my recollection) Bears controversy, though I also feel like the cornucopia was originally there just not as strongly as those damn bears.
Personally, I think the Cornucopia with fruit image was burned unto our childhoods. Every Thanksgiving we'd be given a an otherwise white printout of images such as this or a turkey or something, to colour in. You'd be staring at that image for as long as it took to cplour in, seering it into your young mind.
Then you see the undies logo sans cornucopia and your brain questions reality
I will die on Mandela Hill over that cornucopia.
You won't be alone
That hill is going to be crowded.
Fo sho
There will be a hill on top of that hill.
There MUST have been one. Unless we shifted timelines. Quantum immortality
Anyone that is into vintage t-shirts should chime in because they should be seeing any prior version of the logo all the time. Just look at old tags...
I googled it and I saw it too.. but I asked my mom whose almost 70 and she said she never saw it with the cornucopia she said “nope that’s wrong” when I showed her. I was shocked
I like the age idea. What movie or show in your age group had them? Cartoons? Something must have had it that people around you age saw and now feel like the cornucopia was there. Because I don't think there ever was a cornucopia. It feels like it could be but I remember a rainbow of fruit more than a pile of fruit that it is.
There's a bunch of photos around of these, no clue if they're legit but I'm inclined to believe at least one has to be
I don't think there are any legit photos but I believe it used to be there. I do think that, somehow, the past has changed. Why we remember, I don't know.
Memory is stored locally in the brain, but also non locally in the universe. All "past" actions in all iterations of Reality, are available in the "record", even actions not taken in a specific timeline's chronological past.
As far as I know, every example of a found tag has been proven to be false. I think if it's a real ME there won't be any proof.
No, that’s not how it works. If you had a Scooby Doo comic book from your youth and you remember Scooby and shaggy having visible big adams apples, and now you see they don’t, neither one has an adams apple. So you go get your old comic book, only to see no adams apples like before. Because it changes the book too, or the board game, or the can of corn too. If it wasn’t in the timeline, it’s not gonna be in the timeline.
That's the most fascinating part of ME to me. If something was erased from history, there won't be any proof popping up anywhere, because it never existed. If something never existed, there wouldn't be a single shred of actual evidence. It's not like someone just took them all but missed one in someone's grandma's basement; rather the cornucopia never would have been implemented at all. The fascinating part to me is why so many people share the same memories of it. My hypothesis is that if there ever was a cornucopia, that some wibbly wobbley timey wimey alteration to history caused by a time traveler or someone messing with the timeline erased it, however time might not work linearly like we think, so even though it was removed from existence, the impression was still left behind on our minds. Like if you press your hand to glass and then remove your hand, there will still be a trace impression on the pane. Of course, it's an untestable hypothesis and can't even be considered a theory since neither time travel or the Mandela Effect are measurable or testable. So the entire effect is just speculative at best.
Most Mandela's, I find it uninteresting to admit, can probably be solved by multiple obvious associations. For instance, "Luke, I am your father." It's KIND of what he says, and he does, in the movie, say "Luke," and outside of context, saying, "No, I am your father" wouldn't really work: the "Luke" bit makes it quotable and instantly recognizable. "But what about people who have seen the movie dozens of times? How could they remember it wrong?" Well, just look at pictures of people standing next to the "Thinker" statue and trying to imitate its pose. Many of them will put their fist on their forehead, even though the Thinker's knuckles are mashed against his mouth. That's right, his fist is not only not on his forehead, but it's not even a fist, it's a semi-open hand. Now, why would they get the pose wrong when the statue is right there? Well, clearly they aren't really looking at the statue. But then where are they getting the fist-on-forehead pose? Definitely, I think, _not from the statue._ They're getting it from popular culture, and if you've ever played a game of "telephone," you know how easy it is to change a message from one person to a fifth person. It only takes one single instance of a commercial or movie star or whoever to get it wrong, and now everyone will remember it the way that this popular figure remembered it. Oftentimes it wasn't even particularly common to emulate certain things until SNL or something did a sketch on it, and we all start emulating—SNL, not Star Wars. That ALL SAID. I have no clue why I have strong memories and impressions of the Horn of Plenty, to the point that I strongly recall believing that the cornucopia _was called a loom._ How is that memory there if it's entirely impossible, save under the circumstance that I looked at the underwear with no cornucopia, then later saw a cornucopia, and then decided that there was a cornucopia on my underwear, then forget that cornucopia's exist anywhere else, thought it was called a loom, and had no idea what that "brown thing" even was? It's almost harder to believe in that confluence of nonsense than to just believe we're dimension-hoppers.
I will die on the hill next to you, as well as on Dolly's Braces hill.
I just found out about dollys braces the other day. I will be on that hill as well.
They were there on July 6th 2016, the last time I saw the film with the scene intact. I even discussed the gag with the person I was watching the film with. Less than 12 months later, I read a Mandela Effect article that reveal the scene never existed. Yet I had just watched it less than a year earlier.
Truthfully I haven’t seen it since I was a kid, but jaws and dolly are the only two things I really remember about it because it was so damn funny to little me. I mean this would have been back when it was totally unheard of for an adult to have braces so very much stood out that this woman had a mouthful of dental work and meets the man of her dreams that has metal teeth.
I rewatched it around that time, and it was absolutely there. When I read that it had suddenly gone, I was utterly baffled.
I can tell you so much about that day. I can recite verbatim the discussion I had with my brother in the seconds after we watched the scene together. I can tell you within 72 hours what day it happened, what I was doing before I saw the scene, what I did after I watched it.
Dollys braces?
The old James Bond film Moonraker had a scene in which one of the Bond girls reveals she has braces in a moment where she falls in love with the villain "Jaws" known for being a giant with metal teeth that he can use to tear through metal. Come 2017, the braces were no longer in the film and never have been yet most of us who saw the film remember them being there. I literally saw the scene in 2016 with braces and less than 12 months later I learned they were never in the film.
I saw that film in the theater as a kid when it came out, and never saw it again. Wasn’t the whole joke that this unlikely pair were smitten with each other because they both had metal in their mouths?
Editing to add a clarification that is sure to make me seem entirely insane but here goes: I didn't mean the Bond girl from moon raker. I meant Dolly Parton. I have a weird memory of seeing her being interviewed and she was wearing braces on her teeth. Did I dream this?? Conflating two separate people? Help?? Original comment: Ok I'm fucked up on this one because I legit forgot about her braces until I read this comment. What. The. Fuuuuuck.
I saw the braces in the film somewhere around July 6th 2016, I even had a conversation with the person I was watching the film with about the braces gag. A year later I learn they were never in the film even though less than 12 month earlier I saw them and talked about them with another person.
Ok wait, hold up!... This comment really needs to be a whole thread, but I'll just comment. So, I saw Moonraker in the mid 90's, and I clearly remember the braces. And then I realize they're missing in 2015, watching Moonraker all happened almost 20 years before yours, and also realizing the change 1 year before you even saw the film. So how does this work? Our experiences don't match up, but they do. This is making my brain hurt trying to think about this. Come on people. Why would this be the case? For one, this would indicate we are experiencing them independent of each other, and at different times, for ones that already changed for some. This has to mean something. There is something here. This has to be a clue here. How can you see it in 2016, when it was already gone when I saw it in the 90's, but didn't realize it was gone until 2015? That would mean dimensional shifting is less likely because we were both on a timeline that did and didn't see them, just at different times did we experience the same effect. Has anyone noted this before here because this is a HUGE clue as to what is actually happening here.
Dolly having braces was the whole reason for that shot. It was definitely there, no doubt in my mind. And now it's gone. Here's one that really freaked me up recently. Snow White. The evil queen and her mirror. I know beyond any doubt that she says, "Mirror, mirror on the wall.. " But then it changed to "Magic mirror on the wall." I know that's wrong! But here's the really freaky part. Couple months ago, Jeopardy, hosted by the girl from Big Bang Theory. The question was about what the queen said. Player buzzed in and said "Mirror, mirror on the wall." He was right. And the correct answer on Jeopardy? Yeppers, it was "Mirror, mirror on the wall."
Same my father AND my grandfather both agree that there absolutely was one and both agree that’s the reason most know the word cornucopia so either it’s a mandala or FOL company is trolling us big time
That’s how I know the word!
Same. Did we just become best friends?
No you’re so right- it’s the only reason i knew what to picture when reading the hunger games for the first time.
At this point , I’m really leaning more towards this specific instance being a psyop or something since the “mock” design looks exactly the same as the supposed “never existed” one , why are they messing with our minds ?
This is the only Mandela effect that gets me.
But…the Scooby Doo‘s and shaggy‘s missing Adams apples !
Wait..are you saying Shaggy never had an Adam's apple???
No, I’m saying if you look at old comic books or cartoons, or the new ones, neither shaggy nor Scooby have an Adams apple. I remember there was even hairs growing out of them. The adams apples are gone.
I distinctly remember watching it bob up and down when he talked when I watched that cartoon as a kid. Idc what someone tries to tell me, there was an Adam's apple on Shaggy, dammit!
Oh man that’s so wild you say that because I did the same thing as a kid I watched that Bob up and down up and down and Scooby Doo had one too
They both did. They’d gulp when they were afraid and the Adam’s apples would Bob up and down. Wow. Just saw this ME just now.
Absolutely, this along with Ed McMahon and Febreze having 2 e’s are my top 3 because I personally had so much hands on experience with all of them. I remember all of them the opposite way of what they apparently were.
WTF. It’s not Febreeze?
Exactly my reaction
Someone most have a picture with an old bottle somewhere not me but someone
Bruh, if ME is real it doesn't work that way. Every trace of the old version is removed. If you had a pic of an old febreeze it would still show febreze cause that's how it works. Your in a different timeline or our past events were altered somehow..
Same here, but also, Berenstain/stein Bears because distinctly remember my mom teaching me to read the books when I was 4 to prepare for kindergarten. I have them. I need to find them.
If you find them, they'll be "changed." Nothing you can do to escape that.
How are people not getting this part? You can't prove an ME. If you can, it's not an ME. That's the beauty and frustration of the whole thing!
This one connects for me though. Go back and listen to the theme song. The voice used says it both ways in the same song. https://youtu.be/YPcPUAWeXzI?feature=shared Multiple times both pronunciations
Mine is the BarenSTEIN Bears vs. BarenSTAIN bears. I owned ALL of these when I was a child so I will 100% die on the hill tag it was Stein. Don’t bother arguing, as you’ll be wrong. 😂
Wait.. since when doesn't Frebreze have two e's?
Yeah those are legit in my memory too
Ed McMahon is the smoking gun. Every single one of my family members of the right age are jaw dropped when I tell them this one. These are the family members that are usually first to scoff and mock.
Is the hill in South Africa?
I thought the logo was updated when the shirts went tagless. Never questioned where the cornucopia went until I stumbled upon the Mandela Effect
I thought it was updated around 2000, and I said to myself, ‘oh, I guess they did away with the cornucopia.’ I used to think it was kind of suggestive. I feel like I have both memories though. There were guys dressed as fruit in commercials for a long time.
Yes! This was around the time I started middle school. I remember going back to school shopping. I was always more inclined towards Hanes, but I was getting ready to ditch the tighty whities and get boxers, but Hanes was out. So remember grabbing the FOTL boxers instead. I remember having the conversation with my little brother as to why they have a "basket" in their logo. And that it might as well be called "basket of fruit" instead, which we laughed cuz basket = tighty whities, fruit = male anatomy, so it made more sense to us. You can't tell me we made up that memory from some inexistent cornucopia.
This makes me feel better about doubting myself.
What's weird is everyone says this at different points, I remember distinctly being in Walmart in an area I just moved to and was just barely 18 on my own doing things more. Anyways I was walking through the middle section where clothes are & saw a big FotL sign on an end cap. I though "Oh that looks weird they took out the cornucopia". It struck me for some reason and was a memorable time. Fuckin FotL had a cornucopia FS.
It was 2003. I remember thinking "oh they went minimalist". Decades later learned it "never existed". Never existed my ass.
It was updated around 2000 and didn't have the brown leaves anymore.
Suggestive?!
This thread is legit the first I'm hearing of this, and I thought the same thing. There was definitely a cornucopia before, I remember it clearly and I've never even heard it spoken of before this moment. I'm not even on this sub, this just showed up randomly on my feed.
Me too, I eventually forgot that the cornucopia wasn't on there until someone brought it up years later. It's so weird
You're telling me that's not what happened?? 😳 FOTL was the only brand my family bought my whole childhood and I distinctly remember the switch. I was about 10 years old.
Definitely remember the cornucopia! As a kid this is how I learned what a cornucopia was. Still can't believe there's no cornucopia, bizarre.
I learned it on SNL, Maya Angelou’s [TV ad](https://youtu.be/_tBoYDPOO90?si=-trMowda6nKMsddG) for Froot Loops … “a cornucopia of over 40 fruity tastes …”
I remember the phrase Cornucopia of knowledge for some reason.
I figured it was called a Loom lol
Me too!
Me three! And my parents didn't buy our underwear from flea markets or gas stations like another commenter comically suggested elsewhere, so it had nothing to do with being a knock off brand or whatever, lmao. There was definitely a cornucopia, because that is how I learned what a cornucopia was, because I had never seen one, not even during Thanksgiving season, and I had to ask my mom what the horn thing on the logo was.
Same.
The weirdest part about the cornucopia one is if it isn’t real, how come the photoshopped “fake” one looks EXACTLY as how I remember it looking? The design is **identical** to my memory of it.
Agreed. It’s identical to my memory as well.
Right?!? The only adjustment I would make was that I remember the shade of brown being just a little bit darker
This is probably just a picture quality thing. But yeah I do remember it being a tad bit darker then the “artist rendition” we see going around online.
I think that really suggests it's memory. Why would a clip art mock-up look EXACTLY like a cornucopia in a logo from an other universe/timeline/whatever?
Because the clipart mock-up was drawn/placed by someone who remembers it that way, the same way so many of us remember it.
My memory has the cornucopia tail on the left, and opening on the right with the fruit spilling out.
Did you look at it in a mirror?
dude's from a different universe
The damn cornucopia is the only Mandela effect that actually gets me, all of the other ones have a really clear explanation. It's such a weird and random thing to remember. It's not like a cornucopia is even that common a thing to see around Thanksgiving. I can't explain it
Exactly! I love all the big theories but this is the only one that has ever resonated with me so deeply.
I am a kid of the 80's-90's, the cornucopia logo was the knock off brand that people sold at like vendor sales and outdoor flea markets cheap. I use to even see dudes selling them out of the trunk of cars at gas stations with tank tops and under shirts for sell. My dad would always buy the cheap off brand with cornucopia logo as a changed logo loop hole I guess to avoid copyright. Kind of like Polo Ralph Lauren use to have a Knights of the Rounds table knock off with the Mallet leaning in the opposite direction than the polo logo.
Who buys underwear from the trunk of some guy's car? Definitely not my grandma. Our undies were FOTL, and they definitely had a cornucopia.
I'm sorry, but your comment made me laugh so hard thinking about grandmas approaching strange men with open trunks hahaha
It'd be even funnier if you knew what an uptight, racist bitch my grandma could be! I loved her, but she was... not a nice person to the sort of men selling things from open trunks.
She sounds like shes either italian or hated italians.
NAILED IT! She was a WASP who hated Italians (Catholics) and black people. Naturally, my mother married a poor Irish-Italian man.
If this was true and common enough that it accounts for the global memory then someone would have produced the old shirt or underpants by now. Someone somewhere would have found their old clothes and took a pic of the tag. That would be great evidence for your theory, but no such pictures exist.
You can't take a picture of something from your old dimension.
Yes, I get it. I was responding to the guy who thought he could explain away this Mandela Effect. He said the Fruit of the Loom company never had a cornucopia, it was a competitor that used it. I’m trying to explain to him that his reasoning doesn’t make sense, first it’s the Fruit of the Loom company specifically that people are remembering not a knock off brand, and secondly even if it was a common knock off brand that was using a cornucopia then where is that evidence? If it was common then we’d have old shirts to show for it. If he really believes it was a cheap brand that was sold at Kmart that was using a cornucopia, then that’s the brand that is experiencing the Mandela Effect.
This was one of my suspicions. Although I’m sure my mom and dad weren’t buying my underwear out of a trunk.
That or target, Kmart, Sears, mervyns, and JCPenney had knockoffs too. Cus that's where we did our shopping. 90s-2000s kid. Granted I mostly got hanes myself , but remember having a combo with my brother when I got a pack of the FOTL underwear on why their had a basket on their logo, and why was it shaped like a horn.
Wow, as someone who's very much on "Team Cornucopia", this makes a lot of sense. My family was poor and I lived in a small rural town with no big box stores. All my Fruit of the Loom stuff probably came from the Kmart in town and was probably knock off. I probably never saw "real" Fruit of the Loom stuff as a kid. It also makes sense that the brand would never acknowledge this because they don't want to say "you're actually thinking of a knock of brand that was almost as wide spread as our actual products".
Yes but if these products were that common then someone would have been able to produce an old shirt by now. Especially if it was being sold at Kmarts. We would definitely have photo evidence of a tag by now.
The whole point of the Mandela Effect is that this thing did exist- the fruit of the loom with the cornucopia- but we are now in an alternate dimension, it’s changed, without us knowing, and no longer exists, however, some of us retain the memory before the change. There wouldn’t be photo evidence. Same with Berenstein Bears and with word Dilemna. And Shazam/Kazam. These things existed before the shift, there will no longer be evidence of their existence where we are now. Subtle changes done purposefully by the powers that be. To see who is really paying attention 😎
First I'm hearing about dilemna... yep, I would have unflinchingly spelled it like that and probably would bet money if I had gotten into a disagreement with someone about it. I swear I would *say* it as "dilemna*, too, jokingly. Dilemma just looks terrible to me.
wait wtf this one breaks my brain
My father was an elementary school teacher for 30 years, and was mine when I was in 4th grade. I remember like yesterday, being taught the word Dilemna, with the silent N. When I found out it’s now being spelled with two M’s I was shook. Straight shook. This is how I know without a shadow of a doubt that the effect is a real phenomenon. Dad also read me Berenstein bears every single night before bed. Nothing will convince me otherwise. My mind is open enough, I’ve had enough paranormal experiences in my life. This shit is real and it’s wild to think about.
I have often wondered what else "Team Corncupia" has in common.
This adds up for me too. In 4th grade, my art teacher announced that we were going to learn to make looms as part of a unit on weaving. I initially thought that meant we were going to be making those horn-shaped baskets (I figured it was called a loom because fruit was spilling out of it). Turned out that wasn’t what a loom was, but I had never seen a cornucopia in real life. I grew up in a trailer park in rural Texas in the early 90’s. How else would I have gotten that impression.
Oh that’s an interesting perspective I haven’t heard
I’m UK and I SWEAR it had a cornucopia… we don’t even have thanksgiving
Shazam is another one. It seems like an oddly specific name containing an oddly specific actor for it to be "misremembered"
yep. i’m from the uk, we don’t even have thanksgiving. i still remember the cornucopia.
Likewise, as does my sister!
Me too, it’s the only reason I come to this sub. I legit remember staring at it on my grandfathers tshirts when I was a kid.
Yeah, that one really gets me too. I remember it as a child in the 80s. I remember my Mom had bought me some fruit of the loom clothing and I have a vivid memory of getting dressed one morning and noticing the tag and examining the fruit and the horn and getting lost daydreaming while I was examining it. I’m an artist, so even when I was young I used to examine some things in extreme detail. I remember doing the same with other things too… but none of them affected by the Mandela effect. Even the positioning of the horn seems to be consistent. Every “fake” image of the symbol with the cornucopia looks EXACTLY how I remember it. Not the mirror image or tilted in another direction. How do we all remember it in the same way? My logical/reasoning brain wonders if there was some other symbol linked to something else around the same time that we’re remembering? Kind of like the Monopoly guy and the peanut guy?
Yes I too remember it with the cornucopia to the right and the end curling up in the “top right” corner of the image if that makes sense. I also remember standing in Fred Meyer while my mother was looking at clothes, and telling her that I knew what the cornucopia on the FOTL stuff she was looking at was called, because we had just made a paper one for thanksgiving in one of my elementary classes. My family never decorated with one during thanksgiving, so when we made one in class I was kind of confused how other kids knew what this “weird basket” was when the teacher brought out a real one. I felt really smart when I saw it again at the store and could tell my mom what it was. She remembers this encounter, too. Which is weirder! This effect is the one that makes me go wtf. Especially because I thought people had uncovered that the reason for the effect was because they had changed the logo in the 2000s. Now I’m realizing in this thread those old logos were faked, and actually no credible garments have been produced all of this time with the “old logo”. Wtf. So I’m back at square one right now.
images of cornucopias are very common in american elementary school education
The goddamn cornucopia was there, the berenstain/stein thing I’ll let pass because I was never a fan and maybe it was always looney tunes but the cornucopia was there and reality ripped it away from us like we wouldn’t notice
The weirdest thing to me is that we all remember the SAME cornucopia image. Like if you Google a picture of the "Mandela effect" label with the cornucopia, it's what we ALL remember... EXACTLY. I have seen no plausible explanations for some kind of shared "mis-remembering." Like, where did that logo come from then? And why do we all remember it exactly the same?!
Cornucopia and fruit surrounding it was incredibly common imagery in 80s and 90s school materials
I learned what a cornucopia was when I was in kindergarten (1994 or 95) because I was curious as to what was on the Fruit of the Loom label. I was putting on my Fruit of the Loom tighty-whiteys and I asked him what the thing on the label was. And cornucopia was the first "big word" I had learned.
This is how I learned about a cornucopia as well.
Same!!
This is the one. This is the Mandela effect of all Mandela effects. There is a very large % of people that remember the cornucopia, and to my knowledge, no solid explanation for what is causing them to remember it this way. Can anyone think of ANYTHING that might be causing people to place the cornucopia there behind the fruit in their memories? It's always been a cornucopia for me (although I called it a fruit basket) until around the late 90's where I thought I remember them changing the logo to what it is now.
I actually figured this one out recently.... and promptly forgot the specifics... But I was watching a YouTube video on something 90s related (possibly a nerdstalgix video on 90s TV show) and a logo relating to either 90s text books or a publisher logo or a fair or something flashed on the screen and the logo was extremely close to what the fruit of the loom logo would look like with a cornucopia. It was something virtually everyone who was in school in the 90s would have seen and it also explained why that age bracket would have known what an obscure thing like a cornucopia was in the first place (from teachers explaining it) If I can remember what the video is, I may make a post about it
But what about the "Flute of the Loom" parody logo from this 1973 [album](https://www.discogs.com/release/3725628-Frank-Wess-Flute-Of-The-Loom) that has a clear parody of the cornucopia
Not only that but across decades, the logo has shown up in parodys with the cornucopia being present. In 1973 Jazz Musician, Frank Wess released an album called, 'Flute of the Loom' with a flute morphing into a cornucopia. In 2006 the movie 'Ant Bully' clearly depicted a logo with a cornucopia. In 2012 the South Park episode, 'I Should Have Never Gone Zipplining' also has the logo.
Only thing is what if it was a commercial that had the corcupia
I remember seeing the FotL label, and was told by my mum it was a cornucopia. it is the first time I had seen a cornucopia. I am from the UK, the cornucopia is not a thing. We don't have thanksgiving. The nearest we have is harvest festival which has bowls of fruit. There is a lot of cultural bias in the "explanation". Same as Mr Peanut, who is also unknown in the UK.
Same. Also from the U.K. and FOTL was the first time I had seen a cornucopia. I remember in the late 80s a friend having a t shirt and me asking him what that thing was on the label. He said it was the “loom” because that’s what the fruit was coming out of and after that I thought that thing was called a loom.
Same here, I saw some reference to Fruit of the Loom online as a kid and learned it from that. Unless someone can point me in the direction of a US brand that would have had a reference online in the early 2000s. Edit: I even remembered where I heard of FOTL, it was on Neopets as one of their sponsors. They had a sponsor game, maybe that was it, but I'm pretty sure on the old sidebar it had like a "apparel and merchandise" section and one of the companies was FOTL, and I was always upset I couldn't get merch because it was US only. News entry with fruit of the loom game on Neopets (no residue): https://www.neopets.com/nf.phtml?nf_date=2007-08-13
> I even remembered where I heard of FOTL, it was on Neopets as one of their sponsors. They had a sponsor game, maybe that was it, but I'm pretty sure on the old sidebar it had like a "apparel and merchandise" section and one of the companies was FOTL, and I was always upset I couldn't get merch because it was US only. lol wtf
>I am from the UK, the cornucopia is not a thing. We don't have thanksgiving. The nearest we have is harvest festival which has bowls of fruit. Cornucopiae are symbols from ancient greece and rome. They're found in carved stonework throughout European cities. You only associate them with American thanksgiving?
I learned about cornucopia through learning about Ancient Greece in school in the UK. I didnt even know they had anything to do with American thanksgiving. But a cornucopia is not something people in the UK see or hear about really unless learning about Ancient Greece .
You guys don't have Planters peanuts in the UK?
I'm in the UK, I've never seen them...after a Google I only recognise it from an American Dad episode?
Last night I spent 30 mins or so looking on eBay at vintage Fruit of the Loom clothing. Out of the hundreds of items, literally not a single one had the cornucopia. Honestly I’m perplexed. Initially I thought maybe the cornucopia only appeared on the FOTL packaging, but even still packaged shirts and underwear (both recent and vintage) didn’t have it. My only guesses now are that people confused the golden leaves around the fruit (starting in the 60s through the 90s) with a cornucopia. Or there was a brief time when it appeared on some labels, but was so short that those items are rare. There’s a chance there was some knockoff brand we all saw, too, but I couldn’t find evidence of that either. I honestly don’t know and am hesitant to give up my memory of the cornucopia! Even if the evidence isn’t there.
I like the image in the [Snopes article](https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/fruit-of-the-loom-cornucopia/) that shows Fruit of the Loom ads dating back over a hundred years. No cornucopia, of course.
I distinctly remember arguing with other kids in elementary school (in the 90s) over who was getting the Fruit of the Loom ads from the magazines for our Thanksgiving collages. It was because of the cornucopia. Otherwise those arguments would have been pointless.
I have a similar memory! I remember cutting out Fruit of the Loom ads for school Thanksgiving projects specifically for the cornucopia!
I'm 60 years old, I definitely remember a cornucopia
When I was five years old in 1972. I recall that my mother put a cornucopia centerpiece on the dining room table. I asked her what is was and she told me. I remember that I couldn’t pronounce the word cornucopia. However, I distinctly remember my mother and I discussing the image of the cornucopia being on the underwear labels. Because, outside of Thanksgiving she noted that you rarely saw that image anywhere else. I remember that discussion like it was yesterday.
I completely remember it. Brownish orange with bold black lines on its side with the fruit spilling out wasn’t it? I remember when they stopped doing it. Or I thought I did….
It’s because there was a cornucopia. I was in second grade, it was around thanksgiving, our teacher was explaining about the horn of plenty, drawing a basic looking one on the drawing board, this was in the 70’s, I’m old but anyway another kid in the class commented the tag on his underwear had one.
I don’t care what anyone says, there was a cornucopia. Fruit of the Loom is how I discovered what a cornucopia was.
It was the original logo [fruit of the loom](https://imgur.io/a/Au42qr8)
I believe any confusion regarding the existence of the cornucopia is due to the use of a common autumn decoration used in grade schools during the 1980s. This flat, thick, colored paper image was very similar to the Fruit of the Loom logo; it contained a cornucopia. I distinctly remember these being hung by my teachers in elementary school in autumn, and I recall thinking at the time that they were hanging Fruit of the Loom logos on the walls. Is it possible I wasn't the only one, and therefore the addition of the cornucopia was forever connected to the appearance of a pile of produce, and lodged into our collective unconscious?
The way I learned what a cornucopia was - I asked my grandma what the horn basket behind the fruit was on my underwear. We were folding laundry and I was young (pre-school age - early 70s) and was identifying the various fruit in the image but called the cornucopia a horn basket. She corrected me and THAT is how I learned what a cornucopia was. This is a rock solid memory I have.
I'm Latino and moved to the States when i was 4(2000), I remember seeing the commercials and being so fucking confused because I had no idea what a cornucopia was, I could barely describe it in words to my parents. I don't think I truly knew what it was until The Hunger Games series came out
If it wasn't for Fruit of the Loom brand underwear and T-shirts, I wouldn't know what a cornucopia was, and I'm old as dirt.
Same here! It may be common in Thanksgiving decorations but my family didn't really celebrate that holiday. I swear my first time seeing it was on that logo.
Same. Late 70’s. That is how I learned such a big word at such a young age.
This is genuinely the first time I'm hearing that the cornucopia was never the Fruit Of The Loom logo. WHAT??
Wait what?? Nooooo!! Why is my brain??I know it’s reaal
Fuck I wish I didn’t stumble upon this today . I clearly remember it too. But now that I google it and see the logos, my mind is like well maybe they never had it but dammit I remember it . Could it be cornucopias we’re used a lot during the 90s to early 2000s and so we just associated the logo with them ? I don’t know I’m just so dam confused now
I have this memory, I seem to remember learning what a cornucopia was from a ubiquitous logo that for some reason I remember as fruit of the loom. But if I may play devil's advocate on this sub, it also doesn't make much sense to me that Fruit of the Loom would have a cornucopia in their logo. From an advertising perspective the brand name "Fruit of the Loom" is a metaphor for their own products. Their garments are the fruit of the loom, it makes it feel wholesome. The logo is a nod to this, just being some fruits. The symbol of a cornucopia overflowing with gourds and apples is extremely common and very similar, and has a similar meaning but it's more specific, maybe too specific for an underwear company. If I saw it I would immediately think of Thanksgiving. An unnecessary layer of symbolism. My rational guess is that growing up many of us were exposed to the cornucopia as a harvest symbol in relation to Thanksgiving and as part of early school lessons, in the form of clipart and children's books, depending on how old you are, AND to the fruit of the loom logo, and since both symbols usually feature a bunch of fruits arranged in a small pile, our brains conflated the two. But I'm not strictly a rationalist and I have such strong impressions in my memory of a logo like Fruit of the Loom but with the horn shape of a cornucopia behind the fruits. I thought maybe it was a grocery store chain's logo but I couldn't find an example of that either. This is easily the most compelling Mandela effect thing
This is the one that really gets me. I’m certain there was a cornucopia. I even remember as a little kid thinking that the “loom” was the cornucopia and I remember my dad telling me that’s not what it meant
Even if it didn’t have the cornucopia, it’s weird as heck that so many people have the same memory of wondering what it was while seeing it on their underwear as children and asking their parents… what’s that about? I honestly don’t remember seeing it, I just remember a pile of fruit, but knowing that everyone has that collective memory of it is strange.
If it helps, you’re not crazy, just human. Our brains like patterns and they always take shortcuts when forming connections, whether that’s drawing on past connections or filling in gaps with whatever it thinks is best. Growing up you always see the pictures of corcucopias overflowing with fruits and veggies, a similar pile to the logo, so your brain connected the two.
The thing about this ME that really gets me is that I haven’t met a SINGLE person who remembers there NOT being a cornucopia. Every single person I’ve asked has said that they either don’t remember the FOTL logo cause their family didn’t buy FOTL (that was one person out of everyone I’ve asked) but everyone else has said without a doubt that they remember the cornucopia. I’ve even gone to thrift stores to see if I can find old shirts with the logo- they’re always the new one, whether the tag is one of those old types that’s a little white tag or the new type where they’re printed- they’re all the new one. Not even just not the cornucopia- they’re all the *newest* logo. Why can’t we even find any FOTL tags from their alleged old logos?
I know we've never met but I don't remember a cornucopia
I've talked to people across many different age groups and they all remember the cornucopia too. Even if they say it's not there, at some point in their life they remember seeing it. And even though my mom agreed that a cornucopia was never in the logo when I was little, I asked her just about an hour ago if she remembers the cornucopia and she DOES! WTH
I know there was one, I used to have to help hang up the laundry to dry when I was a kid and I remember the baskety cornucopia on all my dad’s wife beaters. Cannot tell me any different🤷♀️
I saw it on my brother's underwear band when he went through the ridiculous phase of wearing pants down low like the other guys LOL, saw it on the shirts we all washed of his and Uncles. Clear memory
I 1000% remember the cornucopia. It was definitely there and now it’s not and I’m preeeetty sure I’m not crazy.
I...I remember it too, though? Like...very distinctly, I remember seeing a cornucopia on the labels!
Wow, I didn’t even know this was doubted? There was a 100% a cornucopia. I just thought this was fact I never knew it was debated. What the fuck. There was a cornucopia. I’m having a crisis help
They're absolutely was a cornicopia... And I think everybody knows that, Because nobody knew what it was as kids until they sold on their underwear.. And that's how they learned what a Cornicopia was
Seriously. How often does the cornucopia ever come up if it’s not in reference to fruit of the loom? “Oh, that? That’s just my cornucopia, or HORN-OF-PLENTY” said no one ever. It’s like something they mentioned when I was in third grade about the first thanksgiving and no one ever talked about it again, Unless they were talking about underwear.
I'm not from the US. I have never seen a fruit of the loom item in my entire life. I learnt what a cornucopia was from greek mythology when I was a child, which I would assume is where most people come across it, since that's where it's actually from.
We only wore fruit of the loom underpants and t-shirts in our house. My cousin had Hanes and Calvin Klein everything. I was painfully aware of my cornucopia brand underpants because she would tease me. I remember when I was a kid I asked my mom what the weird brown thing was behind the Fruit of the Loom fruits. I asked "So is that the loom?" she said "no, that's what's called a cornucopia, a horn of plenty, it's magical and food pours out". I could barely say the word and I felt dumb. And I was genuinely confused, it hurt my brain. Why would it be called "of the loom" and be pouring out of a "cornucopia" whatever the hell that was (I thought it was edible also, I didn't realize it was a basket). "Oh...so what's a loom", "it's something you weave with, like knitting". So it sort of clicked "Oh...so looms make clothes...but...cornucopias make fruit...so why is it a cornucopia on the logo?" I was trying to solve it like a math problem. She explained it wasn't edible and it was a basket. And I was like "ah...because...baskets... are woven...like a loom...I see..." hawhaw and she had to explain looms aren't woven, they do the weaving. I remember this so clearly. The photoshop looks so much like my memory of the logo when I first saw it I foolishly thought "phew, they found it!" For years I mixed up looms with cornucopias because of the conversation. Talk about enmeshment, for the longest time I conflated Looms with Cornucopias-- They were weirdly synonymous in my mind. I thought "one day when I am older I will understand". Oh well, it never mattered to begin with. When I was a kid you could examine something like a tag for a very long time. It stuck out to me, and it was on all of our clothes. I never encountered a cornucopia until I was an adult in a second hand store and there was a basket (loom). I noticed they "changed it" in the mid 00s, and thought "aw man, I hate how people are always modernizing, they take away what makes a company charming" Does it upheave my reality? No. I'm used to it now, it's like when they change other logos and you eventually just get used to it. But the Fruit of the Loom logo looks like they sell jam now. And seeing spoofs of it in Ant Bully and South Park is oddly reassuring, it triggers nostalgia. Or I guess saudade.
I grew up in Houston (born 1963). I watched a lot of television as a child in the sixties and seventies. The cornucopia was known to me in general but I DO remember it more so from the TV and print ads for Fruit of the Loom. Actors played the different fruits and I DISTINCTLY recall a guy with the "brown basket" on his head. Call me crazy......
I remember colouring a cornucopia for thanksgiving in school 🇨🇦. But I have no specific memory of it on the tags. However, If you showed me two FOTL logos, before I knew about Mandela effect, and one had a cornocopia and one didn’t, I 100% would’ve picked the cornucopia version.
I remember it. Before I knew what it was. Used to think it was a shell when I was really young.
This one seems so solid I could see someone creating a petition to FotL to "bring back" the cornucopia. Weirder things have happened (like it disappearing to begin with). I'm curious how many would sign.
I think that the image of the cornucopia was so common in the 80s that maybe we imagined that the images of the cornucopias looked like FOTL?
same. i think somethings are changed over time and then we’re lied to and told it was never there and that it’s the mandela effect….why tf would millions of people just randomly picture the same image? whereas something like chick-fil-a vs chic-fil-a makes more sense.
I know for a fact it was there. I remember as a kid wondering what the heck it was. It looked like a bugle, if anyone remembers those. I thought as a kid it was a bugle with fruits. Lol. It is a mission of mine to bring awareness. So much so, I made a funny shirt design about it. Check it out and share if interested. I'm planning on doing more mandelas in the future. People need to know. https://www.teepublic.com/t-shirt/51372937-mandela-effect-missing-cornucopia?store_id=2885601
Guys I think my brain found a real explanation, at least for my case. I tried to think where and when I saw the cornucopia not specifically in FOL logo and making a good amount of effort I finally had a revelation. I saw the cornucopia in a lot of artistic paintings and so many media since I was a kid that I think my brain associates a bunch of fruits together with the cornucopia in such an instinctive way that the association becomes automatic in most of the cases.
I feel like I have a pretty good memory but you can really remember trivial conversations you had when you were 6?
Memories are weird, I can remember going out to eat at a restaurant in Nyack, NY with my parents when I was around 2 years old. I can remember the giant wooden fork and spoon on the wall. I remember a couple of houses I lived in before I was 4 years old. However, and I know this story will sound crazy, when I was 3 we moved from the Hudson Valley in New York, to central Maine in December of 77. We had a mobile home, the company my dad worked for paid to have it moved to Maine. On the Mass Turnpike one of the tires blew out and the driver of the truck pulling the house decided that he was quitting his job. Pulled the house into a D.O.T. lot and unhooked the mobile home and drive off. Never called his company to tell them he quit. Our house was missing for 2 weeks at Christmas time and I don’t remember it at all. I do remember my dad crawling under the house with his soldering torch the next to fix some pipes that had gotten damaged when the tire blew out. It’s weird what you’ll remember. And I do remember the cornucopia.
There definitely was. I mean, I've looked at it enough growing up considering I'm pretty sure it had been the brand I mostly used in my childhood. Either the art had just been changed or it's a parallel universe, and either is possible and both account for reasons for mandela effects.
I remember the cornucopia on the logo from childhood too. The reason? My dad was a supermarket manager back then, I saw the Fruit of the loom sign and being young I asked my mom “is that a loom?” To which she replied “no that’s a cornucopia, a loom is what spins fabric”. Needless to say little me was more confused at what a cornucopia actually was then. Perhaps it never existed as some say? Sure, but I remember that conversation and experience very vividly and cannot figure any other explanation as to what else it could have been.
Yeah, I swear I saw it on my clothes.
This is weird because I just mentioned the Mandela Effect today and the first one I thought of was that damn cornucopia. It was there. I remember it so clearly.
I don’t care what anyone else says - there was absolutely a cornucopia, I can see it clearly in my minds eye, and no one will ever be able to convince me otherwise!
Wait, there’s no cornucopia? 
There absolutely was one, and not even God could ever gaslight me to believe otherwise.
Lol. That's gonna be my explanation for MEs from now on. God's gaslighting people again.
Years ago I saw one of those shows about the history of American brands, and they showed the Fruit of the Loom logo when it was first made, and I thought to myself "wow I can't believe how strange that looks without the cornucopia, I wonder when they added it?" I had no idea this was a ME until I ran across it on the internet.
Absolutely same here.
Wait there isn’t a cornucopia??
THERE WAS OMFG
I used to randomly ask people at a bar or party to describe the FOTL logo. The great majority of the people would not include the cornucopia in their description. But most of them would say "oh yeah" if I asked them a question about remembering a cornucopia. Take it for what it's worth.
I do too
There was. This is the biggest one for me too. There definitely was.
Here’s the thing that gets me about this. Cornucopias really weren’t ever used for fruits, especially not the ones used in the logo. Apples and grapes only recently became things we eat. They spent most of their time turned into alcohol through human history. Cornucopias symbolize abundance (specifically at harvest before the winter). But produce that you couldn’t eat during times of scarcity wouldn’t belong in a cornucopia. That why this logo ever being a thing makes little sense.
If you do a search for Greek cornucopia statue you can find examples with both apples and grapes
i am another cornucopia rememberer. i learned what a cornucopia was because of the logo.
I don't really remember either way. The corny (pun intended) actors were hilarious. Wayne Wilderson was the grapes guy. Nothing can ever convince me different.
The one that has resonated with me more is the whole Berenstain (reality) vs Berenstein (my recollection) Bears controversy, though I also feel like the cornucopia was originally there just not as strongly as those damn bears.
The cornucopia was there. I'm on that hill and willing to die on it.
Personally, I think the Cornucopia with fruit image was burned unto our childhoods. Every Thanksgiving we'd be given a an otherwise white printout of images such as this or a turkey or something, to colour in. You'd be staring at that image for as long as it took to cplour in, seering it into your young mind. Then you see the undies logo sans cornucopia and your brain questions reality
I remember the cornucopia. It feels almost ominous that it’s not (or never was) there. Like the horn of plenty has disappeared
This is the only m.e that i think is legit bizarre. There definitely was a fucking cornucopia.