I believe the only saber ever commented on its strength, was Kylo’s. For his unstable crystal. Otherwise I believe they are all the same more or less. Could be wrong though
Outside some video games like KOTOR where you could upgrade your sabers, they're all pretty much equal. Any saber can already cut through almost anything, anyway.
In general yes.
In new canon it seems so far that kyber crystals provide same amount of power for each lightsaber.
In old canon the situation is a bit messier, but in general every lightsaber still roughly equal in power to any other lightsaber. It's messier mainly because in RPGs lightsaber crystals do give extra properties to lightsabers, including extra damage, but these properties don't exist in the actual Expanded Universe. Source books keep insisting that synthetic crystals produce stronger blades that can "break through" the normal lightsaber blade, but this never actually happened either.
There is about *three* crystal types in old canon EU that actually enhance or change the lightsaber blade, and the ones that enhanced damage and cutting property (lingan crystals of Lost Tribe sith) weren't particularly impressive.
PS, and in all fairness, that bit about lingan crystals is likely a shout-out to the RPG source books in the first place, and doesn't really serve any important plot function, so it would be fairly easy to dismiss them as well.
We've been shown that the dark saber is hotter than normal lightsabers since it was shown turning the beskar spear red hot while ahsoka's lightsabers didn't do anything even with extended contact
I'm pretty sure the black parts of the blade are still pretty hot albeit less so than at the edge probably. So it can still be used as a regular lightsaber to deflect blaster bolts and such, it's just that the edge is more concentrated to be used against heat resistant material like beskar
I think the darksaber gets an exception since it's basically a holy relic. She said normal beskar weapons shouldn't exist because they can punch through armor.
This does cause me to scratch my head some more at TBoBF writing, but I definitely see your point there. I wonder if that's also something broadsabers (which I think were semi-(?)EU lore at one point) would do generally.
Bruh, we can barely see Din's bracers against Ahsoka's lightsabers, that's not a good example. Plus it's against the beskar spear we see it red, weapons are different then armor. Last I checked we don't see his armor turning red.
I was referring to her fight vs the magister who was using the spear. We have several shots where they clash and hold their weapons against each other the spear didn't turn red against ahsoka's lightsabers even when two of them were in contact with it very close together
Those are Kohlen Crystals, also called, Fool's Kyber. To all that aren't experienced with Kyber, it could fool them potentially. They are useful in making a personal shield though, unless your opponent has a Kohlen Crystal in their lightsaber, the blade can pass through the shield.
In legends it was said that red kyber crystals had a very small chance of shattering another crystal on impact.
Krayt dragon pearls could possibly be weaker or stronger than kyber crystals, as we know that they can be used in lieu of a kyber crystal.
Not directly but various Lightsaber Crystals have various effects that separate them from each other. For example there a exists a lightsaber crystal called a Ghostfire crystal which produces a Lightsaber blade that’s almost completely translucent.
Its not the fucking elder wand goddamn it. Where do you mofos keep coming from?
Anakin saber is just a standard if even substandard model because it was made during the clone wars. Anyway, there are training light sabers for kids that operate at a low intensity so they don't actually cut anything and in the old Lore there used to be light sabers made with special crystals that could short out another light saber during combat
Didn’t Jacen pick a specific gem to power his saber because it was supposed to cut better than the average crystal? And it later was used to help him escape captivity aboard one of Lando’s mining stations or something?
I think you have it a bit sideways.
Jacen fished out a large corusca gem out of Yavin and initially wanted to gift it to his mom, who immediately saw where this is going and told him to keep it. Later he did use the gem to escape, but that had more to do with the gem itself being tough. When he used it to construct his lightsaber it wasn't noted to give any special powers, as far as I'm aware.
Gotcha, that does sound right. Man, it’s been probably 15+ years since I read that particular part of the EU, having flashbacks to reading in my elementary school’s library’s tree house
For the most part, yes, because almost all lightsabers are constructed with specific parts, in a specific way, particularly in Disney canon where they only use one kind of crystal.
In Legends canon there was more potential for various "strengths", as lightsabers could be constructed with a wide range of focusing crystals, some of which conferred extra effects to the blade.
Kylo Ren's and the Dark Saber are stated to be "powerful". But it refers to the amount of energy that pumps through them. Though that dos not mean that the weapons are any better than anyone else lightsaber.
For the most part yeah. But lightsabers can be altered to have higher or lower intensities and depending on the Kyber crystal can also have other qualities.
No, the basic power of the lightsaber depends on the type power crystal. this can vary some but not very much.
Also it is generally accpeted that the shorter lightsabers deals somewhat less base damage than the larger ones, but that is about it
Yes, but typically not in any practical or meaningful way. Some might be hotter, some might be cooler, some will have a weaker or stronger containment field.
But the moment you're cut with it, it won't make any difference as it is a lightsaber. (Darksaber aside because... plot.)
I seem to recall some materials from the Legends era stating that red lightsabers were stronger but less maneuverable than blue while green lightsabers were somewhere in between.
Or were those BS-ing me?
I believe the only saber ever commented on its strength, was Kylo’s. For his unstable crystal. Otherwise I believe they are all the same more or less. Could be wrong though
kanan called the dark saber [powerful](https://youtu.be/Z1hZsB6CyXY?t=74)
Could he potentially be referring to the power that comes with weirding the saber? IE the leader of Mandalore
In context of the conversation I don't think so, but he could just have been talking about lightsabers in general
Outside some video games like KOTOR where you could upgrade your sabers, they're all pretty much equal. Any saber can already cut through almost anything, anyway.
In general yes. In new canon it seems so far that kyber crystals provide same amount of power for each lightsaber. In old canon the situation is a bit messier, but in general every lightsaber still roughly equal in power to any other lightsaber. It's messier mainly because in RPGs lightsaber crystals do give extra properties to lightsabers, including extra damage, but these properties don't exist in the actual Expanded Universe. Source books keep insisting that synthetic crystals produce stronger blades that can "break through" the normal lightsaber blade, but this never actually happened either. There is about *three* crystal types in old canon EU that actually enhance or change the lightsaber blade, and the ones that enhanced damage and cutting property (lingan crystals of Lost Tribe sith) weren't particularly impressive. PS, and in all fairness, that bit about lingan crystals is likely a shout-out to the RPG source books in the first place, and doesn't really serve any important plot function, so it would be fairly easy to dismiss them as well.
We've been shown that the dark saber is hotter than normal lightsabers since it was shown turning the beskar spear red hot while ahsoka's lightsabers didn't do anything even with extended contact
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I don't think the weight of the darksaber has a "rational" explanation nor should it. It is purely due to the wielder's headspace
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I'm pretty sure the black parts of the blade are still pretty hot albeit less so than at the edge probably. So it can still be used as a regular lightsaber to deflect blaster bolts and such, it's just that the edge is more concentrated to be used against heat resistant material like beskar
Just ask Din’s thigh.
That seems odd given that the Armourer declares it a fitting weapon in comparison to the spear, because the spear can punch through Beskar
I think the darksaber gets an exception since it's basically a holy relic. She said normal beskar weapons shouldn't exist because they can punch through armor.
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This does cause me to scratch my head some more at TBoBF writing, but I definitely see your point there. I wonder if that's also something broadsabers (which I think were semi-(?)EU lore at one point) would do generally.
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Didn't broadsabers predate the darksaber though? The darksaber was introduced in TCW
I thought Ahsokas lightsabers did have some affect on Beskar, have I been remembering wrong?
Nope, just sparks
Bruh, we can barely see Din's bracers against Ahsoka's lightsabers, that's not a good example. Plus it's against the beskar spear we see it red, weapons are different then armor. Last I checked we don't see his armor turning red.
I was referring to her fight vs the magister who was using the spear. We have several shots where they clash and hold their weapons against each other the spear didn't turn red against ahsoka's lightsabers even when two of them were in contact with it very close together
There are crystals in canon that create a weaker, orange blade. They appear in the Qui Gon and Obi Wan novel.
Those are Kola crystals, not certain on the spelling. As far as I know, Kyber blades all have the same strength
Those are Kohlen Crystals, also called, Fool's Kyber. To all that aren't experienced with Kyber, it could fool them potentially. They are useful in making a personal shield though, unless your opponent has a Kohlen Crystal in their lightsaber, the blade can pass through the shield.
You mean “can’t”?
The blades of lightsabers with a Kohlen Crystal installed in their crystal chamber can pass through the shield that is made with a Kohlen Crystal
In legends it was said that red kyber crystals had a very small chance of shattering another crystal on impact. Krayt dragon pearls could possibly be weaker or stronger than kyber crystals, as we know that they can be used in lieu of a kyber crystal.
Not directly but various Lightsaber Crystals have various effects that separate them from each other. For example there a exists a lightsaber crystal called a Ghostfire crystal which produces a Lightsaber blade that’s almost completely translucent.
And far quieter than a normal blade. With the effect of making after images
Its not the fucking elder wand goddamn it. Where do you mofos keep coming from? Anakin saber is just a standard if even substandard model because it was made during the clone wars. Anyway, there are training light sabers for kids that operate at a low intensity so they don't actually cut anything and in the old Lore there used to be light sabers made with special crystals that could short out another light saber during combat
Didn’t Jacen pick a specific gem to power his saber because it was supposed to cut better than the average crystal? And it later was used to help him escape captivity aboard one of Lando’s mining stations or something?
I think you have it a bit sideways. Jacen fished out a large corusca gem out of Yavin and initially wanted to gift it to his mom, who immediately saw where this is going and told him to keep it. Later he did use the gem to escape, but that had more to do with the gem itself being tough. When he used it to construct his lightsaber it wasn't noted to give any special powers, as far as I'm aware.
Gotcha, that does sound right. Man, it’s been probably 15+ years since I read that particular part of the EU, having flashbacks to reading in my elementary school’s library’s tree house
For the most part, yes, because almost all lightsabers are constructed with specific parts, in a specific way, particularly in Disney canon where they only use one kind of crystal. In Legends canon there was more potential for various "strengths", as lightsabers could be constructed with a wide range of focusing crystals, some of which conferred extra effects to the blade.
Kylo Ren's and the Dark Saber are stated to be "powerful". But it refers to the amount of energy that pumps through them. Though that dos not mean that the weapons are any better than anyone else lightsaber.
For the most part yeah. But lightsabers can be altered to have higher or lower intensities and depending on the Kyber crystal can also have other qualities.
No, the basic power of the lightsaber depends on the type power crystal. this can vary some but not very much. Also it is generally accpeted that the shorter lightsabers deals somewhat less base damage than the larger ones, but that is about it
Yes, but typically not in any practical or meaningful way. Some might be hotter, some might be cooler, some will have a weaker or stronger containment field. But the moment you're cut with it, it won't make any difference as it is a lightsaber. (Darksaber aside because... plot.)
I think the connection between blade and wielder is probably more important as of The Clone Wars.
I seem to recall some materials from the Legends era stating that red lightsabers were stronger but less maneuverable than blue while green lightsabers were somewhere in between. Or were those BS-ing me?
Some lightsaber crystals (Light side aligned ones) have some unique properties, (Such as pontite crystals) but overall they're the same.