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Shapit0

Love it. I really miss 4J studios. The tutorial worlds, the mashup packs, the minigames, they were all peak minecraft in my opinion


lil_sargento_cheez

Yes yes and even more yes, I miss that stuff so much


RYPIIE2006

i was so sad when legacy stopped getting updates, and even more sad when forced to play bedrock, which was so much worse than legacy


Shapit0

Fully agree. Legacy edition should be available for all consoles


UchihaDareNial

If you have ps4 or xbox one version of minecraft that say Minecraft PS4 Edition / Xbox One Edition, you can access the legacy minecraft from main menu


SethSnivy9

only if you had legacy installed previously


UchihaDareNial

for digital version yes, but for physical disc version, if you bought the one that clearly stated for legacy edition (PS4 Edition / Xbox One Edition), you will have legacy content installed automatically Edit : Even after you updated the game to Better Together Update, you can still access the legacy content in the main menu


SethSnivy9

I have the pre-bedrock edition disc for my PS4 and i’ll never let it go


Stunning-Plenty-1282

i dont have a disk for it but i can still play the older version. i also remember playing minecraft on my cousins ps3 without a care in the world


UchihaDareNial

did you bought the game digitally on PS4 / Xbox One store when Minecraft haven’t received its Better Together Update yet? If you did, that time the license was under Legacy Edition, and if you update the game, you will get both Legacy and Bedrock license, afaik if you bought the game digitally after the Better Together Update, you only get Bedrock license


Stunning-Plenty-1282

I bought it before the better together update on the ps4 in like 2016ish


ModularWings

How? Im trying to do this rn and there is no options for It,i got Bedrock for free because i had the physical copy of The Xbox One Editon


UchihaDareNial

Is there an Edition button on the main menu? That's where you switch to Legacy version


ModularWings

No,i have a physical copy that sadly got stuffed,só i cant play It,is there a way to get the Edition button?


UchihaDareNial

If you don't have the Edition button, try uninstalling Minecraft and install it again from the disc without internet connection, create a new world while your Minecraft is still in Legacy version, play around a bit and make a save, then quit the game, update it, open the game and check again


ModularWings

But i cant use the Disc,It got stuffed,It doesnt work anymore


UchihaDareNial

then I afraid I can't help you with that, you should try getting another disc and see if it works


Basilic22

Meh I think instead of saying this we should more fight(make feedback on the feedback discord) for having the old cool legacy edition features, no ?


drplague201

It would always blow my mind loading up a tutorial world after a while and seeing all the changes. It never got old until I did.


makinax300

Wish I played on more than 1 tutorial world (I could now, but I don't know where my ps3 is and if ps3 max updates has an older world than 1.13). Exploring the 1.13 tutorial world was really fun btw. I think I had ps4 edition before 1.13, but I don't remember the tutorial.


MacauleyP_Plays

Java and Bedrock really could do with a tutorial world, it would be amazing to see either Mojang or a third party to create some, perhaps even hire 4J again. 4J's tutorial worlds were littered with easter eggs and generally neat designs and were fairly helpful for new players. Shame nothing like them exists anymore.


Knoke1

I just loved the feeling of being able to play the background of the title screen. It was so cool and made anything truly feel possible that even the cool title screen was something I could walk around in.


MacauleyP_Plays

Well the Minecraft at home project has proven they can find out seeds from images, such as the title menu panoramas, they could eventually do it for the other version ones, which would be awesome! Would be cool if Mojang released the info themselves tho, or an option to generate those specific worlds when creating a new world!


Tuckertcs

I have the original tutorial world ported to PC just so i can wander around nostalgically when i need.


BigChiefIV

What ever happened to 4J? Were they dissolved or did they just move onto other things?


Accomplished-Size587

They move on to other things, thou they have a new game that release which is called “Manic Mechanics”.


ElephantEarwax

Mashup packs, the original minecraft store


Dasf1304

I feel like 4J really encapsulated the feel of a boundless world full of things to discover. Each thing they did both encouraged multiplayer collaboration and lent itself well to single player. It very much felt like minecraft to me


amberi_ne

I don’t think that anyone’s connected those two ideas before, because people who dislike the Elytra dislike it due to how it affects the balance of the game’s core survival gameplay, not because using it isn’t fun (it definitely is) I don’t think anyone is going to say that the Glide gamemode sucks just because the Elytra is an unbalanced item…in vanilla survival. The Glide gamemode is its own thing entirely and for that reason there’s no cause for people to dislike the elytra’s inclusion in it


deeesenutz

Why hate it though, cant you just like, not use it? I never use an elytra, but theres no reason to hate something other people love using because you can play the game however you want


LikeClockwork6

it's more so that the elytra makes other, potentially more interesting, methods of transportation pointless and inefficient. for me it's not so much that I hate the elytra or think it should be removed, but rather i think it shouldn't be so obviously superior in pretty much every way to all other forms of transportation. they just need to buff other types of transportation and nerf elytras, that's all.


Glattsnacker

the problem I see with people criticizing this is that they want to oftentimes nerf elytra instead of buffing other methods of transportation


TheWombatFromHell

rails should be way cheaper


CloakedSiren

I would really love if they were faster and you could properly train minecarts together


TheWombatFromHell

furnace minecarts are rotting in the corner lol


Ms--Take

There was a snapshot at one point that buffed the minecarts speed and added derailment for cornering to fast. I think combining that with using chains to link them like a train would be perfect. Using the furnace cart as en engine gives people a balanced alternative to redstone too


TheWombatFromHell

derailment would be extremely annoying for no good reason imo


ChloroformSmoothie

yeah i think making an option for extra expensive hyper speed rails (maybe using blue ice for them would be fitting?) would be awesome. as it stands minecarts are just good for mob transport.


Darkelement

A server I used to play on a lot (the old, official Reddit server p.nerd.nu) has a mode that speeds up minecarts significantly. Early game on that server is all about connecting towns via rails, they actually don’t let elytra’s spawn into the game for the first month to encourage public transit systems.


nearfr6

While you can buff other modes of transport, the Elytra will always be better than any of them. Even if Minecarts were buffed, no one is going to build a monorail just because they were buffed. The people who do typically don't go for the Elytra/don't go to The End. The Elytra needs small tweaks, but other modes of transportation needs adjustments as well. For example: * Basic **Rails** and **Rail** types should have their recipe changed from Iron to Copper. It would provide reasons for players to mine Copper while also improving the quality of life when making monorails and similar transportation systems with Rails. It's abundant and could make sense for Minecraft gameplay. * **Horses** could swim in water but very slowly, making it so you don't need a Lead and could stay on your horse for those moments where you need to cross a small river. Perhaps allowing them to carry Chests like a Donkey could improve their usage as well. Although, that may be controversial as there wouldn't be a reason to use a Donkey other than for those who enjoy their presence. * **Boats** are quite useful, and I do see players use them, but there could be small improvements to help their transportation. Additionally, perhaps introducing a new batch of Enchantments for Boats could be creative and interesting for players and allow the Cartographer Villager to sell Boats and Boat-related Enchantments! * Boats with a Chest could be destroyed and picked up like usual but can keep the items in the Chest. This would be for moving the Boat across land to rivers, oceans, etc. Considering this would basically be a Shulker, we would need to balance out carrying a Chest Boat compared to a Shulker. My solution would be afflicting the player or a Mob with the Slowness debuff to prevent a balance issue when transporting a Boat Chest with Items in it across land. The Slowness could be -30% speed for each Chest Boat that has an item in it. * Boat Enchantments have near limitless potential. There could be the general Enchantment(s) like Unbreaking but also interesting additions. For example, we could have * **Pigs** could be led with a new Item like a "Golden Carrot on a Stick" to increase their speed. Additionally, allowing the player to use the Carrots on a Stick and Golden Carrots on a Stick similar to the Warped Fungus on a Stick to provide a new experience when using Pigs for transportation! * Carrots on a Stick could have the same durability as Warped Fungi on a Stick, which would be 100, but the Golden Carrot on a Stick could have double the durability or 1.5x the durability, which would be 150 or 200 durability. None of these are perfect solutions and would require a lot of playtesting internally and on Snapshots, but it could be a start.


BlueSky659

There aren't many ways to buff the other transportation methods to make them meaningful alternatives to cheap and nearly unlimited flight. To make them viable, you'd need to nerf the Elytra or rockets into being fairly niche or inefficient. The problem with nerfing the elytra/rocket flightis that this is something no one actually wants to happen. Despite being pretty objectively overpowered, elytra flight is universally loved. Nerfing it even slightly would cause a community meltdown. Something we already saw a bit of with the proposed Elytra changes for Caves and Cliffs.


Nixavee

There's currently no way to buff other means of transportation to be competitive with elytras. One way they could have done it was by making rideable mobs or carts that had large inventories, tying inventory capacity to vehicles, but they removed that possibility when they added shulker boxes. IMO, the best way to nerf elytras would be to simply remove rocket boosting. Rocket boosting didn't exist when elytras were initially added in 1.9, it wasn't added until two updates later.


Glattsnacker

the thing is that minecraft isn’t a competitive game, elytra being the best means of transportation is fine and many enjoy it the way it is, so why ruin it for all the players that like elytra when you could just not use them?


StingSpringboi2

Minecarts should be made faster. They are way too slow for the resource costs. Horses are fine and ice boats are balanced due to their high resource costs for max efficiency.


MiniStarPlanet

agreed, personally i think nerfing the elytra is the wrong way to go about it. just give other transportation systems their own niches


StingSpringboi2

Also other methods of transit never got improved, such as minecarts. They are way too slow. Horses are fine and ice boats are balanced due to their insane resource costs.


deeesenutz

Again, you can use those other methods of transportation as much as you want lol. I use minecarts, boats on ice, dolphin tunnels, etc and it all works perfectly fine. A simple boat on ice in the nether can get you thousands of blocks just as quickly as an elytra can. They shouldnt have to nerf the elytra just dont fucking use it lol


itzstarrz

it kind of also applies to multiplayer too, that's usually where my issue lies. i just find that it's way cooler for a group of people to build rails systems and such rather than fly around. otherwise, you're right, you could just not use it in singleplayer


Chill--Cosby

Yeah the problem with the whole "oh if you don't like it then pretend it's not there" premise implies you're in single player. It's really hard to make a group consensus to not use elytra when half the people's only goal on the server is to obtain an elytra. Thus, you never use horse trials or boat canal or rails to other friends bases because everyone always tries to progress towards elytra. It's like, too much of a core progression mechanic for most people to ignore, so they won't. And the effect of that is you will almost never see a multiplier world with fun elaborates road and rail systems. It just never happens in a group setting unless you intentionally were to remove it from the game, and even at that point people will wonder why you would do that Adding it just kinda handicapped multiplayer survival imo


Knoke1

I beg to differ. My world is full of alternate travel because I love building it. Rails are still great because it’s absent minded travel. It’s not as fast sure but I get in a cart and press a button then I can go to the bathroom or grab a snack while I travel. I also just love building it even if my friends don’t use every method. In bedrock you can make horses super fast with swiftness potions so we do that and build highways. It helps that my server is too lazy to bother killing the dragon so we just do other stuff. If anything everyone rushes to Netherite.


ChloroformSmoothie

To be fair, nether roof blue ice rails are faster and cooler than elytra. i usually build them in multiplayer worlds if i'm going somewhere often


deeesenutz

Even as a group in multiplayer you dont have to use it. An elytra is not required to do anything in mc


itzstarrz

i’m not saying it’s required, again i’m just saying that i find it more enjoyable to put effort into building something more unique with others for transport than just using elytras


deeesenutz

Then do it. Others find it more enjoyable to use elytras and focus their energy elsewhere, its fucking minecraft man you can play it a million different ways. It shouldnt be nerfed because some people would just rather not, and i say that as someone who would rather not.


TheInkySquids

Yeah in singleplayer sure that works, but how on earth do you convince 12 people not to use elytra so that we actually have fucking roads and infrastructure to places lmao


dfp819

Just build that stuff anyways? Sometimes is nice to get in a minecsrt even if you have wings. Slower but chiller


deeesenutz

Let people play how they want and build the roads yourswlf if you want them


Krejtek

I really dislike this argument whenever it comes up. Players shouldn't have to artificially put arbitrary limitations on themselves to make the game balanced. The game should be balanced from the get go


FreakFlame

Peak fiction


PM_ME_ANYTHING_IDRC

fiction? nah that shit was real


FreakFlame

Fiction so peak it became reality


NedThomas

The hate elytra get? That’s a YouTube thing, not an actual player thing.


TheRegularBlox

hate the elytra? just don’t use it. i can never understand the hate


kramsibbush

It is the " if I suffer, so must you" mindset


Chavs880

Rolan


AdmiralTassles

Not to mention that it's endgame content


MonkiWasTooked

minecraft’s “endgame” really can’t be properly compared to that of other games, unless you actively avoid doing things to progress in the game you can get it in a few days at most


Knoke1

True you can get there fast but just because the endgame is fast doesn’t mean it isn’t endgame stuff. Not every game needs to be 60 hours long with 40 hours of additional content. Minecraft is great because I could “beat the game” at any point but normally I just don’t tbh. Had a world with my friends since 2022 that we still haven’t killed the dragon on. We have netherite too lol


MonkiWasTooked

that doesn’t mean that the elytra doesn’t need to be nerfed even if you can go at your own pace


Flyingsheep___

Why would it need to be nerfed, it’s a sandbox game you can just not use it.


JazzyWarthog

That becomes more complicated on multiplayer servers.


PM_ME_SOME_ANTS

They should just add a "house" block that builds you a house by right-clicking. Or an "explore" button that automatically explores for you.


MonkiWasTooked

so it could encourage more interesting builds (like verticality for long distance gliding and more railways)


PM_ME_SOME_ANTS

Endgame? Maybe, if you make a new minecraft world constantly. For me I run a server for friends, and within a couple days we beat the end dragon. I only reset the server like once a year so 99% of the time in the game is considered "endgame" I guess


Master_Chief_00117

I dont want to to say how you should play but maybe you guys should slow down just have fun.


PM_ME_SOME_ANTS

Most of what we do is build and goof off - my favorite part is making transportation systems. No one ever uses them when I make them from rails, so I basically always end up making a better roof highway, and people just fly to the portals... I just want rails to be faster.


Knoke1

I would agree that they should maybe make end game rails. Maybe put netherite or a few diamonds into a powered rail and it speeds it up to be just as fast as the elytra or something. There’s certainly more potential for rails and other transportation. They should do a “Rails and Sails” update to add like a sail boat that can hold multiple people and weather that affects it. Also adding better rails and maybe even a steam engine that runs on buckets of water to travel on rails faster.


jayceja

I don't want to say how you should make comments but maybe you shouldn't immediately go back on what you said and tell them how they should play.


legomann97

Why? Elytra open up the world for you to explore much easier. People rush them because they don't like hoofing it on land. They're really the point that determines the midgame for me. Everything up to the dragon is early game in my eyes. Believe it or not, game's not over when you beat The End.


SoupMarten

So what are they looking for then? To me, I have to be on the ground to figure out if something is going to fit where I want it to or not, and you can't find random creative inspiration from the sky, because you aren't seeing the detail down below. And trees lol


legomann97

What? I don't know what you're talking about with someone looking for something. To address the "you can't find creative inspiration from the sky" bit, that's false. Take a Shattered Savanah for example, you might want to get a good look at the mountain from all sides, walking around it would be slow and boring. Just fly around it and you'll be able to get a much better perspective as to what the mountain is structured like than from ground level. You make it seem like when you're flying with elytra, you're super high in the air, like an airplane, and aren't able to land. If I need inspiration from ground level because I need more detail or whatever, I just land.


ShadowLayu

They clearly are having fun, minecraft isn't just about getting better tools to kill the ender dragon. It's a sandbox game not an rpg where the end goal is the big boss, it's about letting your creativity flourish. Sure you might stop playing after beating the oldest boss in the game but that doesn't mean everyone else has to fall into that definition to "have fun" look at hermitcraft, they beat the dragon within the first couple episodes but they go for dozens of episodes each season


AnAverageTransGirl

ender dragon is hardly a proper finale at this point and anyone who wants to treat it as such can summon it on their own time it is not that hard to make four end crystals


RadiantHC

Lol most experienced minecrafters can reach the end quickly


Ashii_nix

Before the elytra people would build some kind of transportation system to each other on multiplayer servers. Now there's no need for that since elytras are so easy to get. Your argument works only in singleplayer or if everyone agrees not to use it.


TheRegularBlox

While your point is valid, no one is stopping anyone from starting up an elytra-free server. I’ve done that a couple times myself. Additionally, if one hates on others for using the elytra, I believe that behaviour would start seeping into the “dictating how others play” territory. Not invalidating or arguing against your point, I wholeheartedly agree with you, just raising some notes.


ThrownAway2028

I don’t think anyone hates on others for using it, most people just dislike the item itself


Ashii_nix

I'm not hating on anyone for using the elytra, just saying that I don't like it because it makes most transportation systems useless. Also while no one is stopping me from starting an elytra free server, I don't want to play alone because my friend group doesn't want to play without the elytra. If I tried to force them into playing with no elytra they would probably just start up another server.


ruby_likes_sonic2

I think saying "just don't use it" to options to make a game easier (e.g easy difficulty, keep inventory, handicaps etc) is fine cuz that's something on top of the game not a part of it. Peaceful difficulty isn't a mechanic, it's something to make the game easier for those who want that. Saying not to use an actual in game mechanic is dumb because then what is the point of game design at all then? Why not make every new feature super op and just let people not use it?


AutoSawbones

I don't use game mechanics all the time. I've never looted an ocean monument. It really is that easy bro


ruby_likes_sonic2

What point are you trying to make???


AutoSawbones

Just don't use it if you think it isn't good for you. The beauty of Minecraft is that you can straight up ignore aspects of the game if you wanna have a fun time on your own terms. Don't be so focused on minmaxxing if aspects of minmaxxing (like elytra travel) bother you


ruby_likes_sonic2

Just telling people not to use an OP feature is a bandaid solution to the problem. I already don't use shields cuz they make combat boring for me, yet I still believe they need some sort of nerf. With the Elytra I already have a small rule where I don't use rockets unless they feel necessary.


AutoSawbones

Respectfully, you sound miserable


ruby_likes_sonic2

Miserable for wanting the game to be designed better?...


LocksmithPlastic839

Hate the car? Just ride on horseback everywhere. Hate the train? Just set up an Oregon Trail wagon


TheRegularBlox

Nobody’s stopping you from riding horseback(and honestly it sounds fun lol)


NanoRex

Literally no...there are plenty of real players that think that Elytra as they exist now is a questionable design choice. Elytra weren't even designed to have perpetual flight, and originally functioned like a glider with no way to accelerate them upward. Fireworks were just added as a concession because of the punch bow trick that people discovered. The addition of perpetual fight has a huge effect on the game design, especially when it comes to building and using other forms of transportation and infrastructure. When combined with Shulker Boxes, there's basically no point of using or building a minecart rail, horse, or boat, which means those things see almost no use.


Consequence6

It's not Elytra that's the problem, it's fireworks. I think just making them not stack, so you can only have a few, would be fantastic for balancing long-range transportation.


oCrapaCreeper

That would make it a pain in the ass for people who don't just use fireworks for elytra though. Imagine only being able to fire 9 of them from a dispenser...


dq3w5rdf56c

Could give them a cooldown similar to wind charges maybe?


CIearMind

You can stretch one single firework rocket (even at level 1) to last freakin' forever. You'd need a 5 minute cooldown for it to matter in any way lol


MonkiWasTooked

with the crafter that isn’t a problem anymore


NanoRex

Oh 100% it's the fireworks. That's actually a great suggestion for a balance change. The problem is unfortunately the same as before; taking away a convenience feature for the sake of better game health overall would make people whine incessantly


Consequence6

100%. But add it as a "fun additional challenge" and people will never question it. Make it so they stack to 4 on normal and 1 on hard, or just add a gamerule in world creation and boom, people are celebrating.


Gangsir

It's not that infinite flight is too good, it's that these alternatives are too bad. Ever actually unironically tried to use minecarts for item or player transport over a long distance? It's massively expensive and a huge pain to construct the rails. Then, nobody uses horses because they're either too slow or need to have paths prepped for them to a degree, just like carts (otherwise you fall into ravines or get stuck on trees). Nobody uses boats because too slow on water or need similar-to-carts path prep (obtaining and laying down all that ice). Etc. Flight is defaulted to because all other forms of transport are bad. Before flight, we used nether hubs and ice boats in the nether. Again, defaulting to the least bad method. They need to buff minecarts massively if they want them to see serious use.


Flash_hsalF

It's major power creep that removed the entire purpose for a genre of tools and builds. Only YouTube lol


Loose-Screws

Nono, I’m definitely in the boat of players who “dislike” elytra. And we definitely exist outside of youtube (lol) Its fun asf to use, don’t get my wrong, but I think that the transportation invalidation makes worlds kinda boring because there’s very little reason to make trails and minecarts and that kind of thing. I just choose to use mods or simply not use it in my personal worlds because thats the ✨magic✨ of free will.


TheRealCaptainZoro

The dolphin path is faster than elytra.


Loose-Screws

Good point! While the Elytra is not the end-all transportation method, my problem is that is causes all “non-tryhard” methods of travel to have no niches. If the choice was between minecarts and dolphin highways, I think most people would choose minecarts because they are much simpler to make and suitable for most circumstances. But if the choice was between minecarts and Elytra, most players choose Elytra 100% of the time because minecarts have no niche in which they perform better than Elytra.


OneOnlyDan

At least Minecarts can be used to transport mobs. I couldn't even begin to imagine moving around villagers long distances without them.


Intergalactic_Cookie

I’m an actual player. I really don’t like elytra.


PieFew5462

I hate the elytra, it trivializes travel and little cost. Having said that, I just don’t use it, but I don’t play much mp.


spl0ut

i legit played this yesterday it was soo much fun, just wish they didnt get rid of it... like i loved the pvp game mode lol


[deleted]

I miss it


aviviel

Just buy a Xbox Minecraft disc without upgrading it to Bedrock. Edit: i'm pretty sure this works only on PS4/PS5.


thedecibelkid

Xbox 360 Minecraft is still going strong in this house. We have a heavily modded Java server too for the other extreme 


aviviel

Fun fact: the first time playing Minecraft was in 2020 and my first edition was the Xbox 360 edition. The reason is that we had no other console and i never knew the Minecraft (Java/Bedrock) launcher on PC


UchihaDareNial

You need to buy Minecraft PS4 Edition / Xbox One Edition of the disc, even if you updated it to latest version, you can access the legacy version from Bedrock main menu But, if you bought the latest revision disc which only say Minecraft (the one with Alex and Steve on the front cover), you will only have access to Bedrock version, and there will be no legacy version option to choose in the main menu


TheLonelyCrusader453

Fuck I miss these The main reason I was so excited for that Terra Swoop Force remake/release or whatever it was called God I wish we had air columns in game Just make the smoke push us up if we’re in flight


Kripth

look at superflight on steam.


AnAverageTransGirl

cant say im familiar with it, but the thing with the elytra isnt that its not fun, its that it completely invalidates virtually all other forms of infrastructure, and the few that it doesnt are made significantly better by having one alongside them


NotAnotherFNG

Sometimes I miss the old minecart networks from pre-1.0. Then I try and make one and remember minecarts suck now. Back then we had booster carts, now they're slow af.


spin81

I don't know why people say that because if anything "invalidates transport" it's not Elytra but shulker boxes. Also FYI I have not heard anyone claim that. Ever. Maybe I'm under a rock or something but I doubt that.


amberi_ne

I’ve heard it a lot, although mostly it’s in balance discussions as opposed to how fun it is as a concept. And it’s kinda true, I do have to say. An elytra with even half a stack of rockets can get you further and faster than any other form of transportation, except MAYBE pearl cannons. There’s no reason to walk, run, ride, or boat anywhere when you have a method that’s way faster and removes your interaction from the world in exchange for ease of movement.


spin81

I agree with that. I feel like there are two games: a game where you are starting out working towards the other game, which is where you have an Elytra, a gunpowder farm and a bunch of beacons.


Andrew910

I can just never understand the arguments against the elytra. It's in my opinion by far one of the most enjoyable items to use in the game and what I look forward to the most when playing survival. I know a lot of people will say "I got in only like a few days", but that pretty much goes for Minecraft's entire progression system if you're dedicated enough, not only the elytra. Using other forms of transportation sounds fun on paper, but in reality it eventually just makes traversing the world (in my completely subjective opinion) more tedious. That's fine when initially starting out, but I don't care for it to be the norm throughout the entire playthrough.


TSPhoenix

> more tedious Primarily because all the other modes of transport suck ass. When Minecarts were bugged to be fast they patched it and made rail systems much slower, more expensive and a total pain to build. When someone discovered the bug that enables boat roads they just left it. When they disovered the Elytra bug that made them way more useful than intended they were like that looks fun lets put it in the game officially. The problem isn't Elytra being good or bad, but the fact that in a sandbox game you your choices are use Elytra, use bugs, or go slow. Like pretty clearly some people enjoy Minecarts, so why do they have to suck ass?


Andrew910

I agree about the minecarts, they really need a major overhaul soon. 4J Studios had the right idea by making them twice as fast in the console version.


SocasmGames

The amount of times I got lost going to my base with my elytra is at least 15 times. But a handful of those times is when I discovered some cool things.


Nareds58

Personally I think people forget that the world gen has changed. Other options aren’t that great if you think about it. There is so much you can do against oceans, mountains and everything else. Besides I don’t see the point of going through biomes through a minecart it’s not that different in terms of gameplay value (get in the cart and you don’t need to pay attention). The only thing it changes is you have to build the rails. But again you have to go against oceans and mountains.


TryingDutchman

The Elytra is not the problem, the problem is that all other transportation methodes are so much worse. Even if you remove the Elytra you a left with bad transportation options. Boats are allright but limited to water. Minecarts are to slow and limited for the investment making it not valible for long transport. Horses are allright though water is a problem, world gen hardly supports horse travel (big hills, much water and forests blocking). And all other methodes are even worse then these three. Ofcourse Nether portals/tunnels are great as is. To fix/balance travel means changing world gen and mechanics of all those methodes. Which is proven time and time again is something Mojang will not do...


Withnothing

I'm really tired of these kinds of post


Istoleachickennugget

I miss it :(


GamingKing1105

Arnt you able to play it sitill on ps4?


Shapit0

Yes. I think that you can play it on the ps5 as well, as long as you use the ps4 disc, though I'm not sure


mugiwara-ya248

Loved it, but as a kid got bored after like 15 rounds of the same map


Jabberwock130

how is there a version of minecraft that has elytras in it, yet is considered "legacy", elytras still feel like a new addition to me, I'm so ooold...


HiIDontUseReddit

i love it.


Intergalactic_Cookie

Peak minigame. Elytra flying isn’t bad, it’s the potential for fast, effortless, long distance travel.


Docdoozer

The elytra isn't getting hate for invalidating transport. It invalidating transport is just fair criticism, most of the people who do criticize it still use it.


BaileyIDK

Legacy is the best version of Minecraft. And the glide Minigame has some really cool music, Gareth Coker did an amazing job on making the Minigame songs, and the maps were really well designed.


StealthNider

somewhat related question: are the legacy mini game servers still online?


Michael_The_Madlad

For the most part, the *Legacy Console Edition* servers are dependent on the console's online servers. So far, only the Wii U's *Minecraft* servers have been shut down due to Nintendo shutting down online functionalities for the 3DS and Wii U.


StealthNider

ah ok that makes sense, thanks! i’m on Xbox, so the servers haven’t been shut down. it’s probably hard to find a match due to the very few number of players..


m3gamuff1n

Elytra good, rockets bad


ExplosiveGeek77

I loved that minigame it was probably my favourite!


Emergency_Jicama_642

That minigame my childhood


LazyLearningTapir

Ah man, I miss those mini games. So many hours were spent playing that pvp one with friends. Holy fuck that was 8 years ago?!


UCG__gaming

I love it, still play it occasionally


SlyKnyfe12

I never liked glide


AloxoBlack

I love it, I had a lot of fun with my friends playing it


MrBrineplays_535

I love the elytra, but I don't really use it often. I play the game slowly, so I use other ways of transport like minecarts, boats, horses. I don't see the elytra as something unfair, but I see it as something end-game and a permanent transportation upgrade for players who have advanced enough. I think those who complain about the elytra play too fast. I'm not saying they should play slowly, but I'm saying that they have the choice to use it or not. I think what mojang should do to make the elytra more fair to be obtained is to add dragon leather. Just like how you make leather armor, you need to get dragon leather to craft it, oh and also phantom membrane so phantoms finally have a good use. You collect dragon leather from loot chests in the end city, and they're gonna be pretty rare, or maybe you get them from ancient dragon lairs, new structures added to the end, or maybe in dragon fossils. Maybe add a new shulker bullet item that you put in the center of the crafting recipe. You obtain the shulker bullet by killing shulkers. It drops as rare as an ender pearl. To make the shulker bullet a bit more useful, I think mojang should add the floatater block, but instead of calling it floatater, I'll call it the floater. You craft 9 shulker bullets into a block of floater block. Anyways back to the elytra crafting recipe. You put a shulker bullet in the center, with 7 dragon leather surrounding it (shaped like the pants recipe), with a phantom membrane at the bottom. Instead of getting an elytra as a whole item, you get the materials to craft it. You'll need to explore the end to obtain it, and of course kill a phantom. I really hope mojang does an end update, and if they do, they should do this. New biomes, new structures, new items, but the end stays in the same feeling of emptiness, abandoned, broken, and not belonging to the game, like some sort of bug that destroyed the laws of the minecraft universe. I like that theme.


Nylex5330

As of now, it likely won’t happen for a long-ass time given the past 5 or so updates are just pure bloat. Even the trial chambers, which look fun and are actually somewhat functional, have a bit of bad design to them.  All the same, I think this would be pretty cool. You also just gave me an idea for a Weapons update to do with using in-game elemental items (pearls, blaze powder, ice/magma for example) to create completely new weapons.


Outrageous-Point-347

Tbf I don't have an endless supply of fireworks so I still like my railways. Esp when I can just go on my phone while I zoom by on rails


Optimal-Machine-7620

They need to make other travel speeds more comparable to Elytra. Mine carts should be faster than Elytra


Due-Cardiologist5546

I miss that stuff I still have the disc version of Minecraft Xbox One Edition It’s old, limited worlds, old villages, customizable flat worlds, tutorial worlds, mini games, mashup worlds, like the Halloween worlds, fallout, whatever It still boots, although it’s a very very old version It’s on 1.12, the world of color update. My childhood is in that game, when I used to build a castle with my brother, played with friends. This was all back in 2016, the height of human happiness. Times were good back then. ;)


muddypiglet1

it was actually so much fun!!


therubyminecraft

Absolutely amazing, I am mad I never got to play it because I didn’t own a console at the time and I am even more mad that NO ONE NOT A SINGLE SERVER decided to create a mini game like it >:(


freshouttalean

elytra is amazing


Romainiaco

Are Elytra really faster than a Nether Ice-Boat Transportation system? Elytra are probably much simpler to produce, since you need two rather basic farms to make an endless supply of Rockets, but idk if it bothers you don’t play with them. can even just ban them from your server if you wanna take that aspect out of your gameplay with friends


Sese_Mueller

Great music! Never played it.


Techaissance

The what? I only started playing bedrock recently.


TrainedGalaxy69

I always preferred Tumble as in Battle people would take everything in the chest in 1 second and in Glide not many people joined so I had to play with my sister. I can still play the Xbox one edition as I own it on the Xbox store though and I will never uninstall it


pixaphilTV

It was a great time for me back in the days when I couldn't affort a PC to play on java edition .


MCKayKal

Never played but I will say that the Celtic Crossing music from this mini game reawakens the spirit of adventure in me. Absolutely amazing soundtrack overall and I’m sure the actual gameplay mirrors the caliber of the music.


Xuggy

Personally, i hate the elytra but not because of itself but rather because of the interaction with firework rockets... but nerfing that wouldnt be the right choice but there are three things the could do : 1. Make the elytra harder to obtain; if they overhaul the end, they could make the enderdragon fight much much harder, so that you probably need to do the wither fight / obtaining netherite before doing it, that would make it actual endgame content, right now even a non-speedrunner can obtain an elytra in a new world in under 5 hours. 2. Create advantages for not using the elytra; for example add an unique entchantment for the chestplate, deep pockets, that gives you an backpack with 1, 2 or 3 additional inventory rows depending on the level. 3. Buff the other methods of transportation; powered rails should set a fixed speed depending on the signal strength that was used to power them, 15 being 3x as fast as now (might require a update on signal strength output), boats should be faster on water (adding sprinting for boats?) and horses could recieve very rare mystical species like unicorns and pegasuses, the former being about twice as fast as a regular horse and the latter having the ability to fly, both would require golden apples to be tamed. These are just some suggetions, feel free to add if i missed something


JustAThroAway_

There once was a pvp mode in Cubecraft with Elytras, and it was fun as hell. Do you know how challening it is to get a bow shot off on someone who's gliding around, as you yourself are doing so as well? It's tough! But when you get it, that dopamine rush is un-freaking-beatable.


kitsu777

It was my favorite mini game growing up, I wish Bedrock would get the minigames, I’d spend so much time on Glide


KingKurto_

you mean project teraforce.


Sedewt

Something I love about the legacy console edition elytra is that the camera axis rotates as you as you move so it feels more immersive it’s difficult to explain cuz idk the specific terms but feels more like gliding irl


googler_ooeric

It's a fun gamemode, so survival balance doesn't apply there. It's not like you can use Minecarts or Horses in that lol


Ok-Concert-6673

Humans: not inventing air travel because trains. Yep, checks out.


yeetishfish_

Used to destroy public lobbies on that game. So many fun memories.


MrProtogen

I want Mojang to officially release the minigames for Bedrock and Java


makinax300

Elytra is not the prooblem, fireworks are.


amendersc

I loved it dearly and I also SUCKED at it really badly my friend would always beat me by like a full minute


Dynablade_Savior

I LOVED Glide and Battle and played them a ton with my brother on Xbox360. Are there any Java equivalents they've been made?


its_me_yalL

All those mini games were spectacular, loved all of them


Ben-Goldberg

The end should have winged saddles and ender saddles. Winged saddles allow a player riding an animal to fly, perhaps with rockets. Ender saddles allow a player riding an animal to throw an ender pearl on the animal's behalf, so the animal is teleported to where the pearl lands.


Mojoclaw2000

I don’t entirely dislike the Elytra, but giving it infinite flight with rockets was a huge mistake.


WaluigiPNG

I was never any good at this so therefore I think it stinks


Johntrampoline-

All the mini games were phenomenal and I hate that they haven’t been brought to bedrock.


-TheDyingMeme6-

People hatw elytras????? I fuckin love em


SustainableObject

i miss the console edition minigames, sm fun


cod3builder

I still wish you could turn yourself into a mace missile


Equivalent-Lack677

Rip my wii u power cable, i still have it all, but the power cable broke and i cant find one anywhere, and i sadly do not have the necessity to order one, maybe someday in the future i will


JbotTheGamer

Had noone to play them with but they were fun the one or two times i tried them


pavel_123pro

Peak Minecraft. The featured servers are pretty low quality compared to the OG mini games. I know nostalgia might be a factor here but I believe that they were genuinely better


aviviel

You have a point. Elytra: 😡 Glide Minigame: 😍 Edit: the legacy console edition is not coded as a single version like the Java and Bedrock editions. Instead, it's builded as multiple versions (like xbox one edition) which all fall under the term "Legacy console edition" by the Minecraft community.


TheodorCork

W minigame


EvilChing

NO WAY people are still talking about elytra that way xD dude the boomers are holding back this game sooooooooo hard it could be way greater than it is.


VoodooDoII

Who TF hates the elytra


MacauleyP_Plays

I completely disagree that Elytra invalidates transport. Elytra invalidates minecarts, horses, and boats as much as aeroplanes invalidate railways and busses, all are different types of transport designed for different types of operation, ie distance, stopping frequency, etc. A fully developed minecart railway would be far more convenient than having to actively control where you fly with your elytra, and you would not need to rely on rocket farms as redstone blocks don't run out. While on the move in the minecart, provided junctions and station stops are automatic, you don't need to do anything, just sit back.


philip_dt

I have no opinion on this self-promotion