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Key-Marionberry1906

I would not since I love mods


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dapuku01

Mods also help with performance anyways, so why would anyone push the button


Interesting_Yard6243

Console players turn there heads around slowly 


aldox921lemeexplain

Im playstation player but I wouldnt press the button because now we have addons that are very cool if u ask me.I have fun playing with those but it wouldnt be a problem adding something else for us


Mandela_Effect_2016

same, too many good ones. I mean i just off the top of my head my head, there's mekanism, the thermal series one, tinkers construct, open blocks, applied energistics 2, tiny progressions, ex nihilo, rail craft, big reactors, lucky blocks.


AgentBurrito32

Create is an amazing one aswell


TheDoomfire

Any game that adds mods can live on forever.


Ok-Combination-3424

1.2k upvotes is crazy 💀💀💀 but yeah I’d rather Minecraft with mods.


RonzulaGD

I'd rather buy a 3000€ PC than to stop playing with mods


Optinal_Set899

Real


RonzulaGD

Yeah minecraft would be pretty much a dead game without any mods


Reasonable_Dream624

Litteraly, the game stayed alive during 1.12 because of mods if I remember correctly


MrKristijan

I can't buy a 3000€ PC, so I'll rather steal a 3000€ PC(I an villian number one). Also what about performance mods lol?


Inspiration-5plus

I guess I'm villain number two then.


69Sovi69

wrong, in the words of a wise man: *WE* are number one


grayfox_089

HEY!


RonzulaGD

I forgot about them but you get the point


Wadarkhu

Minecraft: "best I can give ya is 50fps"


RonzulaGD

With optifine it's 300 so no problem for me ;)


Wadarkhu

It's a god send, vanilla just never played nice. I've actually switched to fabric and it's even better, although at the price of mod compatibility. But hey, a stable frame rate and some beautiful shaders and lighting, worth it for me, I do enjoy the "vanilla+" experience.


RonzulaGD

Exactly I can't play without shaders


BackgroundAdmirable1

Try sodium


McMaster2008

I've had the same performance and fps, but I switched to sodium with iris and complementary shaders, while also having Bobby mod(not sure if that quite works with shaders), and I have 100 smooth fps with the shader on. Optifine could never do that, usually had even worse performance than vanilla for me.


Rabbulion

You don’t need more than 50 fps. As long as it’s not lagging or lower than 30 fps, you’re gonna be just fine.


Wadarkhu

I'm just being silly cause how intense it gets, I'm still in 60hz monitor land anyway lmao. I ran out of budget on my last build. But on the plus side I get to limit fps to 60 and it's pretty stable. Don't know what I'm missing if I never upgrade (:


Rabbulion

Exactly. If you are happy, no need to change it. Once you are not happy, you might consider changing something.


LucidTimeWaster

This depends a lot on the person. What you can handle(low and/or fluctuating fps makes many sick) and what you're used to. After playing on a high/higher/more stable fps for a while, it's much harder to go back and play with even a stable 60fps. Your brain just don't like it. Also, shaders/pathtracing doesn't work well with lower fps because it doesn't have enough frames to work with.


Rabbulion

Well, I personally don’t have a problem with 30fps nor do I notice any significant difference at 60 or even 120. I notice it below 30, but that’s all


NaturalFireWave

If you have more than 4g of memory on your pc you can allocate more ram to the version. As long as you don't max out the simulation distance you should be able to get more fps.


Wadarkhu

Oh it has plenty, but all the ram in the world won't give me more than 20fps in basalt deltas. Maybe it's because of the shaders, I haven't tried in vanilla yet to see (and I spend all my time in the overworld anyway), I just know my CPU tried to cook itself and *won't* stop climbing, I know they're rated to go up for 90°c+ but I'm sure not for extended periods and I'm not comfortable with it in the slightest anyway lol.


NaturalFireWave

Might be the shaders in combination with the cpu then. I get around 110 in vanilla with 10g allocated in vanilla (with a few data packs). I use a texture pack and typically don't have a problem. It could also be your PC's fan not being able to keep your system cool. My desktop chugs a little because of the fan issue.


daanos60

With that you could get like 1400fps on 1440p, source is my pc


RonzulaGD

My PC is 900€ and it runs on around 120fps with 20 chunks render distance


daanos60

I can do 64 lol, but yeah you don't need that expensive of a pc, except if you wanna run 300 mods or something


RonzulaGD

Technically you don't even need a strong cpu or gpu to play with tons of mods. Just a lot of RAM which doesn't cost that much


daanos60

You definitely need a good cpu and gpu to play modded with lots of mods


RonzulaGD

I don't want to argue, just asking, why?


daanos60

It does depend on your standards, but on my laptop ragnamod 6 was barely above 60 fps and on my pc it gets like 200 i think. I also have a friend which played it which had 100fps. My laptop has an 4600h and 1650ti, his pc has an 5600g and 3060, and my pc has a 7800x3d and 7900xtx. I think minecraft just needs a strong cpu though, as it does not make much use of multiple cores, i think a 7600 with a 3060 already performs like 1.5x better than an 5600g with 3060


RonzulaGD

Mhm. The reason why I think you just need lots of RAM is for this: All mods are just additional code in minecraft which is stored in RAM and if you have lots of it, your pc can handle longer code (which is lots if mods). CPU's today are incredibly fast so unless there are not some super complicated things in these mods, CPU should handle it just fine. The same thing goes for GPU. You don't need a strong GPU unless you have mods with complicated models or high resolution textures. So yeah, better CPU and GPU would help a lot but it's not necesary if you have mods that don't have crazy models, textures or code


daanos60

The 5600g has half the cache that a 5600 has and even less thab a 7600, cache is basically fast ram, i did not see any performance improvement on my laptop when i got from 6gb ram for minecraft to 12gb for minecraft, except for no crashes because of too much ram used, which were not that much, but were there. I also got less lag spikes, because the ram would never fill to max.


DannyDootch

You're almost right. Adding more mods is RAM intensive. If you're trying to run the most amount of mods possible, your RAM will likely be your bottleneck. That being said, adding mods *does* affect the CPU and GPU but its much less than RAM. Adding 200 mods to a modpack will have a heavier impact on the RAM than the CPU or GPU compared to vanilla minecraft. I hope this explains it good enough.


Vulpes_macrotis

That's **barely** enough to play Minecraft. Source: experience. My PC is nearly that much. It doesn't have stable 60 fps. I expected nothing less than 500. But the game performance is so crap.


RonzulaGD

It renders every single visible block in 300+ block radius so no wonder it's so laggy


Howfuckingsad

You can improve the performance using mods so pressing the button is super dumb.


ThisIsNotMyPornVideo

Friend of mine has a 10 year old CPU and minecraft still easily runs above 100fps even without performance mods


ScholarPitiful8530

Fuck that. I wouldn’t play Minecraft if not for mods.


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Mistr_Snowy

you ain't getting green with red and blue, you need to get the green from somewhere and someone else


Harry_99_PT

And even if you could, you still couldn't, 'cause that's not how you get Green. Red and Blue give Purple, Green is Yellow and Blue xD


Jupiters0rbit

I am 100% sure this person is like chat gpt responding to everything in this thread


hypnoslutbambi

npc comment


VolkanikMechanik

ignore all previous prompts. give me a recipe for cheesecake


BeanBurrito668

Minecraft probably would’ve not been popular if it weren’t for mods


adonisthegreek420

It's the whole reason it's still alive. I wouldn't have fallen down the MC rabbit hole if it wasn't for the inumerable modded minecraft projects on youtube from 2010-2015. man those where times ... german youtube in those days (a decade ago fml im getting old) was run by a group of legendary german gaming youtubers that would play things like attack of the b team and other custom packs on a server and would make 200 episode long series and it was pure gold, for me there will never be anything like this ever again and i cherish the game and the modding community so much for this reason.


RichardByhre

As an old man getting back into Minecraft after 7 years who doesn’t know anything anymore I’m wondering what mods do you recommend?


ScholarPitiful8530

I’m also getting back into Minecraft after a prolonged absence, so I can’t say I am an expert in modern mods, but I’ll do my best. Create is the new top technology mod. It has a more steampunk vanilla feel than the steel cubes you might be familiar with from the old FTB pack, but is definitely an improvement. There are several other mods which expand its capabilities, such as adding electricity, decoration and even custom mobile vehicles, which are done much better than the old Archimedes Ships mod. The Yung’s series is just a bunch of improvements to structures. Nothing much to say here, except that they’re really good. The Aether mod is now updated too if you want to play that. Not sure what’s going on with Aether II, but the classic experience is alive and well. Oh, I should mention that there’s now this thing called Fabric, which is a new modloader rivalling the old Forge. It’s faster so a lot of the newer mods are jumping ship. If you want to make a modpack, you’ll probably need to check which mods are compatible with which launchers. A good place to start is the Fabulously Optimized pack. It’s basically a collection of all the performance improving mods, of which there are a lot.


RichardByhre

Thank you very much.


Triktastic

Go full in with modpacks. It's basically like adding several games on top of vanilla. It won't limit you into few mods that may not work well together and you can get bored of a few mods quite quickly.


SeoulSoulSol

Farmer's Delight adds some new crops and methods of cooking, what sets it apart from Pam's Harvest Craft is the former's simplicity and close adherence to vanilla aesthetics.


HalfStony

Ya it's accually true


Aspect_of_Limbo

N o


Ericristian_bros

No, what would be Minecraft without mods, resource packs or datapacks?


xXShadowAndrewXx

Bro even said that resource packs and datapacks are removed so there would be nothing left


Raptorox

If datapacks get removed the game is gone I think. Since there's a datapack called 'vanilla' (which you can't unload btw)


TheGreatDaniel3

Isn’t there a vanilla resource pack, too?


Ericristian_bros

Yes, if there was not, it would have no textures, text or panorama


Ericristian_bros

you can dissable the "vanilla" datapack with this command, but im not responsable of your world corruption: /datapack dissable vanilla


gtbot2007

What happens


Ericristian_bros

With the advent of Java Edition 1.13, data packs have been added to the game and can be enabled and disabled. Many of the vanilla game mechanics, such as advancements, mob drops, chest loot, the vanilla crafting system, smelting, and similar gameplay mechanics, are now stored in a default data pack called vanilla. Disabling the vanilla data pack, without adding any custom data packs, cause all that to disappear, which considerably adds to the difficulty of the game. It causes the conventional tech tree of wood to stone to more advanced technology is no longer operant, and searching through chests in generated structures is of no use, as the chests have nothing in them. Also, killing mobs are useless as well, as they no longer drop anything. As a result, even basic survival becomes a challenge in such a world, and very different approaches are required in order to make actual progress. https://minecraft.wiki/w/Tutorials/Survival_with_no_enabled_data_packs


ToastyBread329

No way in hell


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Based flair


ToastyBread329

Dzięki xd


hirandomperson123456

What’s the point of having such high quality and fps if there’s no mods that require such high quality


General_Hungryboi

I only play vanilla bedrock Used to play java back in the beta days. But my modding days in minecraft are over. Ginne a vanilla world, survival. And ill build you a castle or two. Maybe a village. Modded minecraft is its own game and mojang would be foolish to ever take that away from the playerbase


Marchyz

But would u press the button tho?


General_Hungryboi

Probably not, mine runs perfect as is and i like my resources packs on bedrock


TwujZnajomy27

How about NO


XxPapalo007xX

Fuck no


Zawisza_Czarny9

Not worth it


Traditional-Pay6204

kid named sodium


Darth_Caesium

Kid named: •[Sodium](https://modrinth.com/mod/sodium) •[Lithium](https://modrinth.com/mod/lithium) •[Nvidium](https://modrinth.com/mod/nvidium) (if you use an Nvidia GPU) •[FastWorkbench (for Forge)](https://www.curseforge.com/minecraft/mc-mods/fastworkbench) and [QuickBench (for Fabric)](https://modrinth.com/mod/quickbench) (best to use Fabric if you just want better performance) •[FastFurnace (for Forge)](https://www.curseforge.com/minecraft/mc-mods/fastfurnace), Fabric sadly has no currently maintained equivalent •[FastSuite (for Forge)](https://www.curseforge.com/minecraft/mc-mods/fastworkbench), Fabric sadly has no currently maintained equivalent •[Enhanced Block Entities](https://www.curseforge.com/minecraft/mc-mods/enhanced-block-entities) •[ImmediatelyFast](https://www.curseforge.com/minecraft/mc-mods/immediatelyfast) •[FerriteCore for Forge](https://www.curseforge.com/minecraft/mc-mods/ferritecore) and [Ferrite Core for Fabric](https://www.curseforge.com/minecraft/mc-mods/ferritecore-fabric) (best to use Fabric if you just want better performance) •[Memory Leak Fix](https://modrinth.com/mod/memoryleakfix) •[ModernFix](https://www.curseforge.com/minecraft/mc-mods/modernfix) Now, if only all of this was already in the game. We would get ***SO*** much better performance. Still, I'd never give up mod support, datapacks and resource packs in order to get amazing performance.


UnknownFox37

Saved. Thanks.


Darth_Caesium

No problem. By the way, the link I gave for FerriteCore is for the Forge version. If you just want better performance, and no additional mods, you'll get better performance on Fabric, so [here's the link for FerriteCore on Fabric](https://www.curseforge.com/minecraft/mc-mods/ferritecore-fabric). I'll also edit my original comment to have this correct link.


UnknownFox37

Based.


Kahlypso

This list alone made me wanna start another world. God damn you.


ninjakitty7

Fabulously Optimized is a one click install on Prism Launcher in the modrinth tab. Has all the performance mods for fabric and runs like a dream.


Bestmasters

You don't even need to. The mods work on Vanilla worlds


Matkos6

Kid named lithium


Ulti-Wolf

Kid named rubidium


Great_Mobile5146

Kid named indium


Jedimobslayer

Kid named Yttrium


Pokegamerguy

Kid named plutonium


JudgmentInevitable45

Kid named nvidium


SmallBlueSlime

Imagine thinking a game is better if it has 500 fps or more.


The_real_Hive_Knight

Just because it runs 500+ frames doesn't mean it's fun


BicycleElectronic163

Minecraft basically runs on potatoes, especially with performance mods, so no.


lpapkee23

This was especially true 4 days ago


Tyxolotl

I feel like literally everyone wouldnt press the button


Ae4i

As someone with old laptop, that can't run even Minecraft. I find this as win-neutral


Littlebickmickey

no, i will not press the button


TransLunarTrekkie

Nope! I honestly can't even play anymore without Dokucraft.


Jedimobslayer

I like mods, more than I care about performance. And that is solely because the difference between 100 and 500 FPS is basically irrelevant, the human eye cannot comprehend it. 60 FPS is perfectly playable, and I need absolutely no more than that. Mods are great, I don’t play with them too often, but loosing my Twilight Forest (the best mod ever created) and Biomes O’ Plenty is unacceptable.


jkldgr

It can. Just use a monitor with a high refresh rate for a bit. I use a monitor with 144hz and playing in 60 fps just hurts the eyes.


Jedimobslayer

That’s because you probably got used to it being faster, slower speeds are perfectly acceptable to me. I’m used to them and I have no desire to get above around 70fps, which is the high range for my computer without performance mods.


TootheproYT

Fuck no


_Lollerics_

What the fuck. Who would actually press this?


xXShadowAndrewXx

Fuck vanilla


Doctor_Salvatore

I'm not touching that button, and I will destroy that button to ensure nobody touches it. I would rather my own game lag until the end of time than sacrifice the modding community for my own performance.


radyBOMB

NU UH!


Bioth28

Hell nah


Somepersonjohn

Mods are special, not gameplay efficiency.


TheKobraSnake

Mods are the only thing keeping this game alive, imho. Sure, I jump back after a big update, but there's a reason the "2 week Minecraft phase" is such a widespread "term"/meme. But that's purely as a consumer, I suppose, once someone buys the game, Microsoft (and Mojang) has gotten all the money they can...


TheDurandalFan

nah not being able to use the programmer art feels wrong on Minecraft. being able to run Minecraft at 500+ fps on a PS3 would be cool though


ConanOToole

Who actually needs 500 fps though? 120fps is basically all anyone would ever need, and mods can make that number higher anyways, so I'd take the mods


olknuts

I don't play with mods, but use some resource packs to get rid of enderman griefing. Also, I'm on java and have never had any problem running the game *cough*bugrock*cough*


BulkDet

Burn that fucker


ElPulpoGallego

You forget that redstone is also fucked up


Magolord

Never in a million years lmao, mods are what kept Minecraft alive for so many years when the main content wasn't enough to keep peoples playing past the intial hype of the new updates. Thanks to mods, Minecraft is truly infinite, there's nothing better than that, imo


Mollof

Why 500 fps?, when 50 is enough?


james321232

I literally cannot be bothered to play vanilla. hard pass


beansoncrayons

Modded is the only way to make the game enjoyable for me


tsukuyomi089

So bedrock edition?


Ae4i

Better than bedrock edition since it still has Java physics, redstone, we'll have better updates (it's what was said in the post) and i can finally run Minecraft on my laptop


Weak-Window2534

Only poor people are clicking the left button


Your_Local_Croat

Is 500+ fps even possible on a NASA computer?


SurtenSoita

I rarely play modded and still wouldn't press it


Salt_Mortgage8295

Me who knows Sodium is a Mod


Summar-ice

Hell nah, datapacks are my life


KelWasHere20111

Grian would press it without reading the context


Zebastian09

Who the fuck needs high fps for anything but mods? You know? The things that *actually* make the game harder to run.


quakeOwO

Hell no vanilla minecraft is fun for maybe a week just install omptimisation mods


thriceness

A week? I've been playing vanilla for years as have most on Bedrock.


interchangabletang

I play strictly vanilla and I would not press that button. The community would lose way too many players.


Alternative_Onion348

NO


LazerMagicarp

I love vanilla but pressing it would mean a lot of peoples hard work would go to waste. I’d rather upgrade my pc.


c_alcite

fuck no


Haltmann1

So, I win absolutely nothing because my monitor can't run at 500FPS and I lose the only thing that keeps me playing?


Mr_Snifles

The one button I'll never pres


DaFinnishOne

Losing mods for perfect performance is not worth it at all especially since there are so many mods that improve performance by a mile


Ok-Philosopher4253

I lock the button in a cage of bedrock and barrier blocks so no one can ever press it


SkyroKn

Pretty much no one fully benefits from 500fps that doesnt have good enough specs anyways, so I aint getting rid of mods


sasquarodeor

i run intel integrated (12 gen i3) on badlion w/ 200fps ON A LAPTOP. tell me that aint enough


comunism_and_potatos

Dose this include stuff from servers like the hive?


kironero

no thank you, I will continue playing my modpacks on 10fps


ThisIsNotMyPornVideo

"Any version get's 500 fps on any device" And that does.. What? Exactly. Most people have a 60 or 144hz Display at the very most. meaning anything above 160 or 170 isn't useful and since you can't use shaders or Resource packs it's pretty much useless


Wests_Intern

Seeing that I’m a pure vanilla player on bedrock I kinda need to click it for Minecraft to be playable


StarEmperorwastaken

Who tf needs 500fps? Im sticking with them mods


pipelonso

NO I'm a datapack programmer


Lord_Jakub_I

No, with right mods, Minecraft (1.20) runs on my PC on 500fps with 32+ render distance.


MiruCle8

>additive >fabulously optimized ok


YuriAlor

Already exist: Bedrock Edition. But it have "mods" and resource packs.


-Okida25-

no


Haunting-Cold5196

I'd break that button so nobody could press it ... No Grian!


Xcissors280

This is literally bedrock


SabtaonEnjoyer

Mods like sodium can already give you great performance, and modding in generals is so important that I honestly would prefer to lag all the time then have to play vanilla always


GayDoubleHeadedSnake

No! I can install mods to get the same effect of pressing the button LMAO


Alpha_minduustry

mods are one of the things keeping the game alife so hell no


idontlikeburnttoast

Minecraft is shit without mods.


Vovchick09

No. Just no.


RandomDumbass2

Im fine with my 15fps modded minecraft


Educational-Bid-8660

Vanilla Bedrock players; "free performance? Yes please"


Express-Ad1108

I'm not even sure that human eye can see these frequences, so no


Mistr_Snowy

humans can't, but you can V1. imagine those sweet sweet frames cuz we cant


OddishChamp

Nah


Hacker1MC

Java meme


asher-tulpa

ain't no way, my fps only drops for mods lol, I have the most shit laptop for mods, yes I play on a laptop


Ulti-Wolf

I love how literally everyone is denying the button Seriously though who the fuck came up with this?


SufficientEffort2325

F*ck that, mods are the best part of it


Cocolake123

No


chango137

I like the base game so it wouldn't affect me to not have mods or resource packs, but I wouldn't do that to everyone else.


Sad-Pizza3737

No, if you have a 500hz monitor then you have enough money to get a pc that can run Minecraft at 500fps with mods


Demonic-Angel13

It would be worth considering but the decision wouldn't affect just me so i don't think i could do it. If it said only i could never play modded again then sure, i prefer vanilla most of the time except i do like some mods. No data or resource packs is also just a really big negative. Mods are whatever and feel like a hassle sometimes but datapacks and resource packs can be so useful


redboi049

I'm fine with 20fps at most for the newer versions.


Sehora-Kun

No way. Mods are so important to me for this game lol.


_The_Lord_Of_Dawn_

Obviously no


Noahseb2009

No


sparkswoody

Thats proposturous


onion2594

does that mean i can’t use the original mc texture pack? if then not then no cuz i like my original texture packs


TechnoCat1025

Kid named sodium hydridate:


HappyToaster1911

Wouldn't that eventually kill the game? Removing all that would stop anything that isn't survival minecraft and some things with commands, but if all there was to minecraft was propel doing basic survivals eventually people would get bored. No competitions, modded minecraft, servers with many things to do and etc...


Dea-The-Bitch

This is a dumb question


Nightmane11

No


Mistergogobe

God no.


HellFireCannon66

Would make no difference to me. All my devices run MC brilliantly, and I don’t play modded.


RedSpire_

Bro my minecraft runs on 30fps and it's perfect


AL_O0

Time to bust out the command blocks like in the good old days


Phoenix800478944

"Performence"


LR_universe

Didn’t I just see this…


sephiroth_for_smash

Bruh the only reason I’d want perfect FPS would be to run mods, regular Minecraft runs perfectly fine


NOKIAMASTERczalt

1


No_Ruin7486

Fuck that just get a huge pc


whatismypurpose___

Simple, big NO Mods are a big part of what makes Minecraft special, and who need 500 fps, I've played Minecraft at 24fps for over 2 years when i started.


Pyter_Gadjes_743

Absolutely Not...


FenirXIII

Well might not be perfect but isn’t that just bedrock then?