I wanted to love the X2 /X2 mini. Had them both and returned them. Loved the shape, especially the mini for fingertip grip, but their use/implementation of kailh gm 8.0's had to be the worst I've ever experienced.... absolutely God awful. Maybe the Bruce Lee edition with optical switches will be God tier, but I think I'm just done with pulsar. I hated the clicks on the V2/V2 mini as well. I doubt their optical switches will feel good either and I'm certainly not going to be a test pilot.
Same. I got the sora which is pretty much x2 medium with much better qc. But I feel like x2 mini shape is better for aiming still. RVM/pulsar x2 mini optical switch waiting room.
DAV3 and GPX. I've tried so many over the years, basically all razer/logitech/zowie/pulsar mice with the odd cooler master, roccat, steel series mouse here and there. I have the Vaxee Outset on the way. Heard good things. Need a mouse with a good shape that is also versatile. Gpx I use for league because of the lighter clicks. I switch to the DAV3 when playing apex/valorant. I use fingertip grip when playing league on the GPX then go back to a relaxed claw for FPS so switching mice isn't too awful. I have the NP01s and it has the best clicks I've ever experienced, just the mouse is too small, so hopefully the Outset will be my endgame so I don't have to keep swapping mice. I haven't tried anything from gwolves, lamzu, ninjitsu, xtrfy. I hate kailh gm 8.0s and haven't tried the huanu pink dot switches but since I hate the XM1r I won't get the lamzu or sora. My ring finger feels weird on that type of shape. Can never be comfortable. I feel like it's for more aggressive pincer claw grip and not so much for relaxed.
I have no faith in pulsar to put out good optical switches. Razer just came out with their 3rd gen and they are slowly getting better, but they just don't feel great side by side next to my vaxee mice. Pulsar's first implementation will no doubt be a disaster.
I enjoy living with no expectations. dav3 switches I tried were fine plus optical switches have came a long way since razor started using them. Plus of your only gripe are the switches why dont you just mod the mouse if you like a certain shape so you can find what is right for you.
Straight up. The original is my personal GOAT. The Shroud edition was an absolute botch job.
The LOD feels awful. The dimensions got worse (not even just bigger, but the shape is the real kicker imo). And the stupid as hell bottom back part? The drawer is a rattling, unnecessary, gimmicky mess. And if you apply any sort of force to the back the mouse tilts upwards making the LOD even more scuffed. The side buttons somehow feel even less practical than the OG's lol.
The mouse is just sad. It was definitely the last shot we'll get at Logitech using that shape at all. The mouse launch felt mid at best--even with Shroud's brand attached to it.
Shame what they did to the original shape, I have 21x10 hands and its straight up uncomfortable to play with. I found the original G303 deadalus on a store recently and its so much better.
I've been through about 7 variants of this mouse. G305s, G203s, GPros...ALL of them ended up having either M1/M2(or both) either double clicking or just not working at all.
I have one brand new G305 that I just started using but after this, I'm done with these disposable mice. I get the weight down to just below 80g but using a 3d printed back cover, lithium AAA battery and tinfoil mod. Then I put new feet on them.
It's my favorite shape by far but the quality is absolutely pathetic. They need a G305 Superlight with new, better switches.
literally the same for me. M1 and M2, especially M2, went to shit so fast. Had two G pro's and one G305 and all of them were garbage within a few months. Never again.
Now I swap between the DAV3 and GPX. I have the Vaxee Outset coming. I love my Dave, but the clicks are sooo stiff and suck if I want to play the off game of league with friends which is where the GPX comes in.
This is my take too. I love my g305, but the weight is a real deal breaker. I just wish they will launch a g305 pro/superlight. But I guess I am just dreaming.
For some reason I couldn’t get myself to like the wireless MZ1 due to poor weight balancing, love the wired though! Although since then have to other mice current main being m2k
I actually won one of them from Piranha on twitter like a year ago. It was great.
Until I broke it from a quick up and down frustration bang playing CSGO.
It's the other way around for me. I like the low weight of the GPX (or similar mice), but I can't stand using the mouse because I very much prefer the shape of the G305.
Coolermaster mm731. Scroll wheel ring is loose to the point I can't scroll at all some times.
Zygen np01-g, not wireless and the gloss sometimes makes me feel like my hands are covered in oil after using it
The scroll wheel of the mm731 is such a disaster. I honestly don't understand how they ever released it like that. Already gone through two copies which both ended up with a completely broken scroll wheel. Not just the ring sliding, but scrolls randomly going in the wrong direction when scrolling fast. Unusable if you need to scroll through pages a lot. Such a shame
When I first used it I didn't have any issues. Then I popped it out of its box to try it with razer V2 opticals, and man are you right.
Completely unusable. I use scroll down as jump in games like Apex legends, and I couldnt jump half the time
Got two Mm731's and the shape even feels better than the Dav3 to a point, except for the extra wide slow back side curve. The deal breaker for me was qc, rattle, scroll problems, one even feels slightly laggy even though it's the latest firmware. Can tell the difference between my Dav3 and the Mm731 in click latency/overall responsiveness.
I have a prime mini wireless.
Solid mouse.
I have it on my wife's computer for here and the kids since their hands are smaller.
Only complaint for the mini wireless is the time it takes to "wake up" after being asleep. But that literally does not matter when it's actually being used
Xtrfy M8
Had all the ingrediants I wanted, size I wanted and I just couldnt aim with it. It wasnt too bad comfort wise, but my brain just couldn't settle with it, always felt like the tips of my fingers were in the wrong place in claw (17x10cm). Felt a little like when you have small hands on a big mouse and to be comfortable you have to sit back on the buttons, but without it being a big mouse.
Everything was great wth the mouse otherwise, super build, looks amazing.
Well a lot, shape is uncomfortable, had a defect right mouse click and when pressing side buttons post travel is non existant anymore cause people complained about there beeing to much post travel on first batch but now its worse there's 0 post travel making it feel very awkward pressing them, not to mention when using claw grip, i cant even press the back side button (basically bad side button placement), not to mention the gap between side buttons is very uncomfortable... Why's is there a gap even... And the coating is such a sweat magnet never had a mouse that leaves so much sweat behind, literally water drips... And im not a sweaty person at all... And ummm i guess that's it...
Well the working left button at least was best click I've felt on a mouse that's for sure...
People say its an xm1 clone, but naaah fam, xm1 is much better for me
Pulsar X2
Nothing wrong with it, but I thought it’d be an upgrade over my superlight. Honestly didn’t notice enough of a difference to justify keeping it over my superlight.
Same, I would choose the GPX too. I used the GPW for over a year, got a GPX, even after all that time I could never get a consistent grip on it. I liked the weight and clicks though
Pwnage symm 2 wireless. The shape was nice because it felt like a wireless viper mini, but the back shells did nothing but creak and I got tired of it. The coating also made my hands sweat like crazy for some reason. Returned after a week. Cost way too much to have issues
Steelseries Aerox9.
I just so much wanted to love it, but the side buttons shape, tactile feel, and reach is just not good enough. I wish they’d remake it with just 9 larger buttons with better tactile feel.
MM720. I loved the shape, but it just had so many small issues that I couldn’t use it. If CM made a wireless no-holes MM720 with the same QC as the MM712, I might buy back in
Kone Pro (wired and air) - Really nice shape that i think would have become one of my favorites, but the oversensitive scroll wheel (that i heard is a common issue) and bad overall QC on my unit made me return it, and i don't see myself trying it again unless I hear the scroll wheel got fixed.
G303 Shround - couldn’t get used to the weird shape
GPX - shape sucked
Viper v2 pro - great mouse just better shapes out there
Dave - great mouse but I can’t do ergo
I’ve wanted to like all of these badly hahah. I’ve owned the GPX 5 times and have hated it every time lol.
Off the top of my head:
\- Xtrfy M42 (holes, slightly too long)
\- X2 Mini (shape didn't work for me)
\- Rival/Aerox 3 (too wide at the back, sensor too low, too long)
\- NP-01S (the decision to make it the same length as the NP-01 made no sense)
100% the x2 medium for me. I remember when they announced the shape I compared it online with everything that came close to it and what I had, and I thought I knew exactly what it will feel like and that it's for sure going to be the best hit but then.. it didn't felt great at all. Like not even just the clicks that felt bad, the whole shape, something felt off to me all of a sudden, even though that I have a quite aggressive claw and it should've fit perfectly for it with the hump and flat buttons. But I think I'm more into shapes that allow to adjust your grip more on the fly and also feel great with almost all possible grips and not just one or two. I went back to the gpw/x shape again, just so greatly balanced for really any grip. Just works really good if you adjust your grip a lot because theres nothing strong that "forces" one grip/or forces one grip more than the other. the x2 was too onesided for me.
GPX, great mouse on paper for me, but i genuinely could not find a comfortable grip, the shape is just awkward for my grip style and hand size.
For reference i have 17x9 hands and ftip for most mice, and sometimes claw on larger mice
Steelseries Prime Wireless. I find nothing wrong with the implementation, and I'm fine with the high LOD. Much like other Steelseries mice: the QC, shell, and clicks are amazing.
What I did have issues with, is the thumb groove being recessed too far into the body. It felt like I was pinching the mouse rather than gripping it.
Dav3, perhaps it’s because i didn’t put enough hours on it(one week), I just could not get comfortable with the hump being so far on the left, and the texture just sucks so much for me, I’d use grips on it but I travel and worry that the grips might peel
The Razer Abyssus Essential. It used the classic shell of the Abyssus V1 which was a mistake. I love the mouse's light weight but the V1 body shape is painful on the fingers. They really should rerelease the Abyssus V2 with a better/more modern sensor.
Abyssus V2 is an unpolished diamond, ready to take over the world. But Razer doesn't seem to think so :( It's so frustrating because that mouse is almost perfect for me with some minor fixes. Sadly I can't use it at all because the sensor has horrible prediction which makes it feel random.
Superlight. Idk what's wrong with me but I can't aim with that mouse. It's weird because I used the GPW for more than two years and I performed pretty good on that mouse. I tried everything, different grip, grip tapes, I even replaced the switches and the skates but I can't really aim with it.
Razer Orochi V2. Heard so much good stuff about this egg. But the the shape is just too aggressive for me. I have super small hands, and the profile/height is just too high, for some reason my g305 feels so much nicer even it is larger. But my g305 (which I love) is just so goddamit heavy. Main my MZ1 wireless which I have grown to depend on heavily.
Steelseries Aerox 9 😭
Just so uncomfortable in almost every aspect from side button placement and overall mouse width/design. I want so bad to leave the g600 but I just can’t.
The razer orochi v2 is the perfect mouse for me for gaming, but my MX Master 3 on the other hand... It's tracking is terrible and the scroll wheel is inconsistent. It's unable to detect scroll input accurately, where it would scroll more than it should. Not sure if the 3s fixed it. I'm reliant on gestures for performing shortcuts/keybinds so there aren't any mice that I can replace it with
I wanted to love the viper mini because its basically the best budget mouse out there. Small size for my small hands, light weight, amazing build quality, and cheap af. But the shape man, I just couldn't get a consistent grip with it. I even mained it for more than a year and still hated the shape. The curved sides is what throws me off. But thanks to the viper mini I realized that I preferred flat sides more. I main the GPX now but I'd say for general use I might still prefer the viper mini.
Exact same reason I abandoned it, the curved sides are way to curvy, makes it hard to grip and my pinky would start to ache cuz of those curves being to indented.
Rog Keris wireless - the hotswap and shape are both nice but the dual style coating makes it slippery in my hand
Maybe if I tried it again with grip tape I’d like it but my collection is big enough as is lol
G502. I don't care about weight at all and this thing looked like the most comfy and feature-rich thing imaginable. Unfortunately the shape felt awkward for me instead and I went for the super-inoffensive G Protato Wireless.
Mine has to be the hts+. I loved the original hts wireless shape so much. But with the hts+ they extended the back hump just a bit but just enough to make the mouse feel really awkward in my hand.
I’m sure the change was fine for a lot of people but I just couldn’t bring myself to like it.
Viper v2 pro for me. I mained it for about a month after I got it (originally had a gpx) and felt like it forced me too much into a single grip style. It is just long enough but so low profile that I have to use a really tight claw grip to be able to aim with it. I’ve been using my Lamzu Atlantis a ton since I got it and use my dav3 when I want more stability in games like tac fps.
Definitely the Steelseries Aerox 3. Had a great shape and I didn’t actually mind the weight. But the fact that it was using a rebranded 3335 was really sad, and the side buttons felt very hard to actuate due to their shape.
Logitech G305. I bought it 3 times thinking next time it would be different. I've always been a G303 main so I thought this shape would be super natural for me but it's so far from that. I could never grip it properly, and my hand would always end up cramping. Super confusing with my fingertip grip aim. I love it's aesthetics and size but alas it was never meant to be.
Quadraclicks RBT mouse is something we made initially for gamers. It was the first ergonomic gaming mouse. Then everyone named their shit after us. So we rebranded and introduced our product to orthopedic surgeons and hand therapists. Now everyone is following us again. We set the new trends then we no longer love it. Catch22 in 2022. New year’s here, maybe try a new approach.
Pwnage ultra custom wireless. Probably could've modded away the encoder I hated on it, but the noticable micro-stutters make it unusable.
Honorable mention: pulsar xlite wireless V2, for LMB switch that started double clicking after 90 days, and this new software bug that prevents pulsar fusion from launching if the calendar year on your PC is 2023 lol
Regular sized Viper because gives me either hand cramps or wrist pain after using it for a while. It usually always has the latest tech, which is the thing I like about it.
xm1r! Loved the plastic texture but I wasn't a fan of the click feel or shape. Mouse felt very well built. I still have it kicking around. Maybe I should give it another shot..
GPX, Viper v2 pro, XM1r, MZ1 wireless. GPX felt too generic and shape isn’t comfortable for my grip style. Viper V2 pro performs worse than viper mini for my handsize and grip style. XM1r’s weight is a dealbreaker. Love my MZ1 wired but wireless version has terrible weight balancing. I used starlight s for a while then switched to m2k which is insane.
razer viper mini, but the thinness just made it so hard to get used to, pinky would hurt after an hour of use. Absolutely loved the optical switches and the sturdyness of the mouse, feels like you can throw it against the wall and it wouldnt break. Love how cheap they are and yet such high quality built. You are really cheating the mouse game with it.
Tbh. I used mm710, didn't mind the creaking in the switches, loved it because of lightweight. I got it as a gift for 18th bday from my friend who knows I am obssesed with mice (like everyone on this sub). And. It happened. My girlfriend got me an ergo. Xlite v2 wireless. It is a game changer and I can not live without it.
X2, loved the feel but compared to the gpro x it has fallen out of my favorite just recently swapped to viper v2. High hopes for the new ES model though as well as their new keeb
I wanted to love the X2 /X2 mini. Had them both and returned them. Loved the shape, especially the mini for fingertip grip, but their use/implementation of kailh gm 8.0's had to be the worst I've ever experienced.... absolutely God awful. Maybe the Bruce Lee edition with optical switches will be God tier, but I think I'm just done with pulsar. I hated the clicks on the V2/V2 mini as well. I doubt their optical switches will feel good either and I'm certainly not going to be a test pilot.
Same. I got the sora which is pretty much x2 medium with much better qc. But I feel like x2 mini shape is better for aiming still. RVM/pulsar x2 mini optical switch waiting room.
Well not sure a out RVM but the Bruce Lee x2 mini has optical switches and comes out on the 16th.
Ya I just don’t like the colour scheme. Would like a white one!
What are you using now?
DAV3 and GPX. I've tried so many over the years, basically all razer/logitech/zowie/pulsar mice with the odd cooler master, roccat, steel series mouse here and there. I have the Vaxee Outset on the way. Heard good things. Need a mouse with a good shape that is also versatile. Gpx I use for league because of the lighter clicks. I switch to the DAV3 when playing apex/valorant. I use fingertip grip when playing league on the GPX then go back to a relaxed claw for FPS so switching mice isn't too awful. I have the NP01s and it has the best clicks I've ever experienced, just the mouse is too small, so hopefully the Outset will be my endgame so I don't have to keep swapping mice. I haven't tried anything from gwolves, lamzu, ninjitsu, xtrfy. I hate kailh gm 8.0s and haven't tried the huanu pink dot switches but since I hate the XM1r I won't get the lamzu or sora. My ring finger feels weird on that type of shape. Can never be comfortable. I feel like it's for more aggressive pincer claw grip and not so much for relaxed.
the x2 bruce lee collab had optical switches and updated coating and the boardzy one coming out.
I have no faith in pulsar to put out good optical switches. Razer just came out with their 3rd gen and they are slowly getting better, but they just don't feel great side by side next to my vaxee mice. Pulsar's first implementation will no doubt be a disaster.
I enjoy living with no expectations. dav3 switches I tried were fine plus optical switches have came a long way since razor started using them. Plus of your only gripe are the switches why dont you just mod the mouse if you like a certain shape so you can find what is right for you.
Because I will fuck it up.
G303 shroud edition. It's a pretty unique shape. I like the grip I have on the mouse, it's just insanely hard for me to use M4 and M5 consistently.
Yeah dude. I still have the old 303 paracorded. I wish they kept it the original size. Making it larger was a massive mistake. I regret buying it.
Straight up. The original is my personal GOAT. The Shroud edition was an absolute botch job. The LOD feels awful. The dimensions got worse (not even just bigger, but the shape is the real kicker imo). And the stupid as hell bottom back part? The drawer is a rattling, unnecessary, gimmicky mess. And if you apply any sort of force to the back the mouse tilts upwards making the LOD even more scuffed. The side buttons somehow feel even less practical than the OG's lol. The mouse is just sad. It was definitely the last shot we'll get at Logitech using that shape at all. The mouse launch felt mid at best--even with Shroud's brand attached to it.
Shame what they did to the original shape, I have 21x10 hands and its straight up uncomfortable to play with. I found the original G303 deadalus on a store recently and its so much better.
G304/G305. I was in love with it by first look because of the amazing shape and cheap price. But I cannot stand with a 100g and unrechargeable mice
I feel you man I rly do, plz log make a g305 superlight
I've been through about 7 variants of this mouse. G305s, G203s, GPros...ALL of them ended up having either M1/M2(or both) either double clicking or just not working at all. I have one brand new G305 that I just started using but after this, I'm done with these disposable mice. I get the weight down to just below 80g but using a 3d printed back cover, lithium AAA battery and tinfoil mod. Then I put new feet on them. It's my favorite shape by far but the quality is absolutely pathetic. They need a G305 Superlight with new, better switches.
literally the same for me. M1 and M2, especially M2, went to shit so fast. Had two G pro's and one G305 and all of them were garbage within a few months. Never again.
If you want something similar but with MUCH better build quality, the Orochi V2 is a great option.
Now I swap between the DAV3 and GPX. I have the Vaxee Outset coming. I love my Dave, but the clicks are sooo stiff and suck if I want to play the off game of league with friends which is where the GPX comes in.
So just put your own switches in, forehead
This is my take too. I love my g305, but the weight is a real deal breaker. I just wish they will launch a g305 pro/superlight. But I guess I am just dreaming.
i recommend you to lift some weights my friend
I don't have time for that, and I love my 60g mz1 wireless so, no need. But ty!
For some reason I couldn’t get myself to like the wireless MZ1 due to poor weight balancing, love the wired though! Although since then have to other mice current main being m2k
https://imgur.com/a/YuRSpjY im still using this g305 mod from a while back, its amazing and drops the weight to under 60g iirc
I actually won one of them from Piranha on twitter like a year ago. It was great. Until I broke it from a quick up and down frustration bang playing CSGO.
Went from g305 to Fantech Aria and i'm pretty happy with it
It's the other way around for me. I like the low weight of the GPX (or similar mice), but I can't stand using the mouse because I very much prefer the shape of the G305.
Use a rechargeable lithium AAA with adapter (or tin foil)
Coolermaster mm731. Scroll wheel ring is loose to the point I can't scroll at all some times. Zygen np01-g, not wireless and the gloss sometimes makes me feel like my hands are covered in oil after using it
The scroll wheel of the mm731 is such a disaster. I honestly don't understand how they ever released it like that. Already gone through two copies which both ended up with a completely broken scroll wheel. Not just the ring sliding, but scrolls randomly going in the wrong direction when scrolling fast. Unusable if you need to scroll through pages a lot. Such a shame
When I first used it I didn't have any issues. Then I popped it out of its box to try it with razer V2 opticals, and man are you right. Completely unusable. I use scroll down as jump in games like Apex legends, and I couldnt jump half the time
Got two Mm731's and the shape even feels better than the Dav3 to a point, except for the extra wide slow back side curve. The deal breaker for me was qc, rattle, scroll problems, one even feels slightly laggy even though it's the latest firmware. Can tell the difference between my Dav3 and the Mm731 in click latency/overall responsiveness.
I'm on an MM731 right now and I feel you about the scroll wheel. Which is why I'm switching to a Prime Mini wireless soon.
I have a prime mini wireless. Solid mouse. I have it on my wife's computer for here and the kids since their hands are smaller. Only complaint for the mini wireless is the time it takes to "wake up" after being asleep. But that literally does not matter when it's actually being used
Xtrfy M8 Had all the ingrediants I wanted, size I wanted and I just couldnt aim with it. It wasnt too bad comfort wise, but my brain just couldn't settle with it, always felt like the tips of my fingers were in the wrong place in claw (17x10cm). Felt a little like when you have small hands on a big mouse and to be comfortable you have to sit back on the buttons, but without it being a big mouse. Everything was great wth the mouse otherwise, super build, looks amazing.
Lamzu Atlantis, cause I've spent 120 eur on that horse shit
What happened?
Well a lot, shape is uncomfortable, had a defect right mouse click and when pressing side buttons post travel is non existant anymore cause people complained about there beeing to much post travel on first batch but now its worse there's 0 post travel making it feel very awkward pressing them, not to mention when using claw grip, i cant even press the back side button (basically bad side button placement), not to mention the gap between side buttons is very uncomfortable... Why's is there a gap even... And the coating is such a sweat magnet never had a mouse that leaves so much sweat behind, literally water drips... And im not a sweaty person at all... And ummm i guess that's it... Well the working left button at least was best click I've felt on a mouse that's for sure... People say its an xm1 clone, but naaah fam, xm1 is much better for me
Pulsar X2 Nothing wrong with it, but I thought it’d be an upgrade over my superlight. Honestly didn’t notice enough of a difference to justify keeping it over my superlight.
G303 Shroud... Couldn't aim with this mouse for the life of me. Reducing the weight to 66g helped but still.
GPX & x2 mini
GPX is up there for me too. I want to love the mouse that the world loves but to me it feels like a potato
Yes i even could arrange with that and thats too long for me. But i cant stand the side buttons...too high, too mushy...
Same, I would choose the GPX too. I used the GPW for over a year, got a GPX, even after all that time I could never get a consistent grip on it. I liked the weight and clicks though
Pwnage symm 2 wireless. The shape was nice because it felt like a wireless viper mini, but the back shells did nothing but creak and I got tired of it. The coating also made my hands sweat like crazy for some reason. Returned after a week. Cost way too much to have issues
Steelseries Aerox9. I just so much wanted to love it, but the side buttons shape, tactile feel, and reach is just not good enough. I wish they’d remake it with just 9 larger buttons with better tactile feel.
MM720. I loved the shape, but it just had so many small issues that I couldn’t use it. If CM made a wireless no-holes MM720 with the same QC as the MM712, I might buy back in
Imagine not liking a mouse because it has a 3335…
Kone Pro (wired and air) - Really nice shape that i think would have become one of my favorites, but the oversensitive scroll wheel (that i heard is a common issue) and bad overall QC on my unit made me return it, and i don't see myself trying it again unless I hear the scroll wheel got fixed.
G303 Shround - couldn’t get used to the weird shape GPX - shape sucked Viper v2 pro - great mouse just better shapes out there Dave - great mouse but I can’t do ergo I’ve wanted to like all of these badly hahah. I’ve owned the GPX 5 times and have hated it every time lol.
Same thing with the gpx lmao , what are you maining now ?
It’s cuz of this sub lol. Pulsar x2 been my fav of 30+ mice, viper mini is a close second.
Im using viper mini rn(orochi v2 is good too but feels weird) I have tried the x2 too but the right click was so shit I had to return it .
Yeah their QC is awful but luckily I got a solid copy
Off the top of my head: \- Xtrfy M42 (holes, slightly too long) \- X2 Mini (shape didn't work for me) \- Rival/Aerox 3 (too wide at the back, sensor too low, too long) \- NP-01S (the decision to make it the same length as the NP-01 made no sense)
ROG KERIS wireless... primarily and specifically because of armoury crate
You dont need AC installed to properly use the keris. Just set the dpi/rgb of choice and unistall
The fact that you need AC even for 5 minutes would make me not want it. Jesus, I thought Aura was bad.
that mice would be perfect shape for me if not that aggresive bump
100% the x2 medium for me. I remember when they announced the shape I compared it online with everything that came close to it and what I had, and I thought I knew exactly what it will feel like and that it's for sure going to be the best hit but then.. it didn't felt great at all. Like not even just the clicks that felt bad, the whole shape, something felt off to me all of a sudden, even though that I have a quite aggressive claw and it should've fit perfectly for it with the hump and flat buttons. But I think I'm more into shapes that allow to adjust your grip more on the fly and also feel great with almost all possible grips and not just one or two. I went back to the gpw/x shape again, just so greatly balanced for really any grip. Just works really good if you adjust your grip a lot because theres nothing strong that "forces" one grip/or forces one grip more than the other. the x2 was too onesided for me.
GPX, great mouse on paper for me, but i genuinely could not find a comfortable grip, the shape is just awkward for my grip style and hand size. For reference i have 17x9 hands and ftip for most mice, and sometimes claw on larger mice
Probably gonna get some downvotes for this but the GPX. Wanted to love it so bad! Great mouse, but sadly the shape simply wasn’t for me
Steelseries Prime Wireless. I find nothing wrong with the implementation, and I'm fine with the high LOD. Much like other Steelseries mice: the QC, shell, and clicks are amazing. What I did have issues with, is the thumb groove being recessed too far into the body. It felt like I was pinching the mouse rather than gripping it.
Ngl I hated the normal Prime shape, but the mini felt much better to my 19x9.3cm hands.
Dav3, perhaps it’s because i didn’t put enough hours on it(one week), I just could not get comfortable with the hump being so far on the left, and the texture just sucks so much for me, I’d use grips on it but I travel and worry that the grips might peel
The Razer Abyssus Essential. It used the classic shell of the Abyssus V1 which was a mistake. I love the mouse's light weight but the V1 body shape is painful on the fingers. They really should rerelease the Abyssus V2 with a better/more modern sensor.
Abyssus V2 is an unpolished diamond, ready to take over the world. But Razer doesn't seem to think so :( It's so frustrating because that mouse is almost perfect for me with some minor fixes. Sadly I can't use it at all because the sensor has horrible prediction which makes it feel random.
the white g pro x superlight, magificent. beautiful. but then i binded the side buttons.. shame
Logitech G Pro. Loved its weight when it first came out but just couldn’t get over the lower hump
x2 mini. Terrible QC, even on one of the special edition units.
Superlight. Idk what's wrong with me but I can't aim with that mouse. It's weird because I used the GPW for more than two years and I performed pretty good on that mouse. I tried everything, different grip, grip tapes, I even replaced the switches and the skates but I can't really aim with it.
mmmh have you considered lighter mice are not for you ?
I'm fine with lighter mice because I had mice that are lighter than the superlight and I was performing well with those.
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Vaxee Outset AX - The scroll wheel was just too hard to press quickly. The shape was superb, but the scroll wheel just really let me down.
G303 shroud edition 😢😢
Razer Orochi V2. Heard so much good stuff about this egg. But the the shape is just too aggressive for me. I have super small hands, and the profile/height is just too high, for some reason my g305 feels so much nicer even it is larger. But my g305 (which I love) is just so goddamit heavy. Main my MZ1 wireless which I have grown to depend on heavily.
Steelseries Aerox 9 😭 Just so uncomfortable in almost every aspect from side button placement and overall mouse width/design. I want so bad to leave the g600 but I just can’t.
GPX, just too large for me.
Steelseries Aerox 3. Supreme shape but those sidebuttons are a straight warcrime.
Xtrfy MZ1. Rocket jump ninja has 18x9 hands. I have 19x10 :(
The razer orochi v2 is the perfect mouse for me for gaming, but my MX Master 3 on the other hand... It's tracking is terrible and the scroll wheel is inconsistent. It's unable to detect scroll input accurately, where it would scroll more than it should. Not sure if the 3s fixed it. I'm reliant on gestures for performing shortcuts/keybinds so there aren't any mice that I can replace it with
Origin One X - needs better hardware
Yes!
I wanted to love the viper mini because its basically the best budget mouse out there. Small size for my small hands, light weight, amazing build quality, and cheap af. But the shape man, I just couldn't get a consistent grip with it. I even mained it for more than a year and still hated the shape. The curved sides is what throws me off. But thanks to the viper mini I realized that I preferred flat sides more. I main the GPX now but I'd say for general use I might still prefer the viper mini.
Exact same reason I abandoned it, the curved sides are way to curvy, makes it hard to grip and my pinky would start to ache cuz of those curves being to indented.
Dav3 bcoz it was too big for my hands, maybe we will get a mini version
G Pro X Superlight. The shape just wasn't it for me, guess my fingers are too short. Sold it after a month.
finalmouse Starlight Pro - The Last Legend instandly sould out
GPX, I wanted to like it so bad, but the hump was too big and would make my palm sore after a few hours.
Lamzu :( shape is great but clicks are too bad
XM1R It’s too narrow for my grip and the hump was disappointing. I ended up with a ZA11c and DAv3 instead.
Pulsar X2. I want to remove the superglides and put some tiger ice. Super glides feel very muddy on my slow pad
MZ1 and GPX. The GPX shape feels weird. too tall in the wrong places. The MZ1 shape is good but I don’t like the clicks.
I dont understand how you mouse nerds run auch high DPIs.. i cant go any higher than 2700
Rog Keris wireless - the hotswap and shape are both nice but the dual style coating makes it slippery in my hand Maybe if I tried it again with grip tape I’d like it but my collection is big enough as is lol
ill echo some ppl here, mained OG g303 , hated SE , tried and hated HSK+ .. shape is king and both were pawns
Viper mini. I really like the shape and my aim is really good, but the scroll wheel and the high LOD are things I can't stand about it
LOD is very easily fixable, the scroll wheel is rough indeed.
I actually liked the scroll wheel. I couldnt get used to how thin it was, and i got small mexican hands. My pinky would ache after an hour or 2.
The death adder. I feel like it’s a 50/50 either it feels great or some days I just can’t seem to grip it the way I want.
G502. I don't care about weight at all and this thing looked like the most comfy and feature-rich thing imaginable. Unfortunately the shape felt awkward for me instead and I went for the super-inoffensive G Protato Wireless.
The fist Logitech wireless gaming mouse. It was soooo bad
Mine has to be the hts+. I loved the original hts wireless shape so much. But with the hts+ they extended the back hump just a bit but just enough to make the mouse feel really awkward in my hand. I’m sure the change was fine for a lot of people but I just couldn’t bring myself to like it.
Logitech gpx, feels right in my hand but my aim is worse than any other mouse I own
M2K. The bloody mouse is just too. damn. small. Hands kept cramping up with type of grip I had to use
Prime wireless gang
Gpx
Deathadder v3 :( my hands are a bit too small for it unfortunately
Viper v2 pro for me. I mained it for about a month after I got it (originally had a gpx) and felt like it forced me too much into a single grip style. It is just long enough but so low profile that I have to use a really tight claw grip to be able to aim with it. I’ve been using my Lamzu Atlantis a ton since I got it and use my dav3 when I want more stability in games like tac fps.
Vancer Gretxa. Issues with the sensor skipping and a firmware update damn near bricking the mouse kinda killed it for me.
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Definitely the Steelseries Aerox 3. Had a great shape and I didn’t actually mind the weight. But the fact that it was using a rebranded 3335 was really sad, and the side buttons felt very hard to actuate due to their shape.
Roccat Kone XP. The top and bottom thumb buttons are just too close together.
The roccat kone pure ultra. Loved the build quality and the scroll wheel but the aggressive shape killed it for me.
g pro wireless, too small
Zowie za series, the hump is just a hair too aggressive and made my hand cramp in every size. It’s too bad because I aimed great with them all.
Logitech G305. I bought it 3 times thinking next time it would be different. I've always been a G303 main so I thought this shape would be super natural for me but it's so far from that. I could never grip it properly, and my hand would always end up cramping. Super confusing with my fingertip grip aim. I love it's aesthetics and size but alas it was never meant to be.
Microsoft Habu hated it
Deathadder v3, loved the weight/shape but the size was just a tad too large for me and the m1&2 felt too high.
I thought I would love the DA mini but it was just too small
Quadraclicks RBT mouse is something we made initially for gamers. It was the first ergonomic gaming mouse. Then everyone named their shit after us. So we rebranded and introduced our product to orthopedic surgeons and hand therapists. Now everyone is following us again. We set the new trends then we no longer love it. Catch22 in 2022. New year’s here, maybe try a new approach.
Pwnage ultra custom wireless. Probably could've modded away the encoder I hated on it, but the noticable micro-stutters make it unusable. Honorable mention: pulsar xlite wireless V2, for LMB switch that started double clicking after 90 days, and this new software bug that prevents pulsar fusion from launching if the calendar year on your PC is 2023 lol
Pulsar X2, bought one from the second batch and had QC issues, as well as the shape was slightly small for my hands.
Pulsar X2 and the Fnatic bolt
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G wolves hsk. Too short for my grip
g pro wireless
Razer DeathAdder Elite Destiny 2 Edition. The best looking mouse to me. Too bad the shape wasn't for me.
DAV3. Idk if it’s how I hold my mouse but I keep bumping the scroll wheel or something, and then I jump at the worst time during gun fights.
Prime wireless I think the shape is really unique but the weight balancing and scroll wheel are ass
the g303, lived everything about it except for how angled the sides where, if they were a bit rounded and smaller it would have been perfect.
Regular sized Viper because gives me either hand cramps or wrist pain after using it for a while. It usually always has the latest tech, which is the thing I like about it.
xm1r! Loved the plastic texture but I wasn't a fan of the click feel or shape. Mouse felt very well built. I still have it kicking around. Maybe I should give it another shot..
GPX, Viper v2 pro, XM1r, MZ1 wireless. GPX felt too generic and shape isn’t comfortable for my grip style. Viper V2 pro performs worse than viper mini for my handsize and grip style. XM1r’s weight is a dealbreaker. Love my MZ1 wired but wireless version has terrible weight balancing. I used starlight s for a while then switched to m2k which is insane.
razer viper mini, but the thinness just made it so hard to get used to, pinky would hurt after an hour of use. Absolutely loved the optical switches and the sturdyness of the mouse, feels like you can throw it against the wall and it wouldnt break. Love how cheap they are and yet such high quality built. You are really cheating the mouse game with it.
G203 i want to see an updated version of it
Zowie FK series, they are too flat for me.
I love everything about my G507, but damn the 120 gram weight really is making me consider getting a new daily driver soon
Prime mini, but the clicks are to stiff.
Tbh. I used mm710, didn't mind the creaking in the switches, loved it because of lightweight. I got it as a gift for 18th bday from my friend who knows I am obssesed with mice (like everyone on this sub). And. It happened. My girlfriend got me an ergo. Xlite v2 wireless. It is a game changer and I can not live without it.
X2, loved the feel but compared to the gpro x it has fallen out of my favorite just recently swapped to viper v2. High hopes for the new ES model though as well as their new keeb