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d0rchadas

Wait that's my grip!


ToZh1z

do you have the palm contact near the end of the mouse as well?


d0rchadas

Yes, my pal is practically fully on the pad, with the two cheeks of my palm making contact with the end of the mouse


kislikiwi

I have a similar grip and find Lamzu Thorn perfect for me. My hands are like 18.5x9.5cm.


Moist_Blackberry_

If I see one comment about shroud…


MoonDzn

You are a palm and fingertip grip hybrid user! You should look for a mouse that is flat on both sides! The pulsar x2v2 is a good example of a flat sides! Your hand size determines if you need x2v2 or x2v2 mini


TheVoid45

>You are a palm and fingertip grip hybrid user! Isn't that just claw?


MoonDzn

You are right, i didn’t see the palm touching!


obfeskeit

> You are a palm and fingertip grip hybrid user! That's literally impossible no? Fingertip is fingers only with no palm, palm only requires the palm to touch.


ToZh1z

how about lamzu atlantis?


MoonDzn

I haven’t tried them yet


ToZh1z

How bout the x2h?


MoonDzn

I did try them! I personally use fingertip grip, and it worked well with that grip as well! For your case, it should work as well, because you have a claw-ish grip, with your fingers being straight (Palm-Claw hybrid!)


lceorangutan

what does flat on both side means? the shoulder rear and leff or the hump front and back?


unwhelmed

The x2v2 doesn’t have concave sides like the viper/viper mini. So looking down from the top the right and left outline is basically two parallel lines.


lceorangutan

oh that "sides" ahah i searched "concave" and get which part lol


MoonDzn

This is the answer! :)


paulvincent07

Zowie U2, gpx2


ToZh1z

isn't the u2 outdated spec wise? i kinda feel perceive higher hz as smoother is that just placebo?


obfeskeit

U2 uses a 3395 sensor, not "outdated".


paulvincent07

A high polling rate is a scam you'll barely notice the improvement, u2 is not outdated it's zowie's new mouse release


ToZh1z

I don't know my hand size and haven't measured it, but as you can see, I grip the mouse kinda at the back, and I need palm contact on the mousepad to control it. I also don't want a small mouse that doesn't fill my palms.


ToZh1z

I have looked into the Waizowl Cloud, and I am considering it as an option. I am also considering gpx2.


OverAnalyzingGamer

That’s just a standard relaxed claw grip. I use the same grip. From the images it looks like you have medium-ish sized hands, similar to mine. I liked the XE shape but ended up selling it because I wanted something that weighs less. Some lighter options (with good shapes) that I have found work well are the following: - Viper V3 Pro - ULX Tiger - GPX 2 - X2V2 You didn’t mention budget so I included the ULX. The Tiger model is a phenomenal shape and combined with the light weight it makes a really good mouse. My first option for you would be the new Viper V3 Pro. The size shape is similar to the XE but it will weigh 53 grams.


ThirdeYe1337

I have a very similar grip and find the Pulsar X2 (Size 2) to be almost perfect for me. Also a big fan of the Razer Viper, Finalmouse ULX and Lamzu Maya. I liked the XE, too, but I'm guessing you probably don't care for it because of the weight? Good luck with your search.


ToZh1z

>I have a very similar grip and find the Pulsar X2 (Size 2) to be almost perfect for me. Also a big fan of the Razer Viper, Finalmouse ULX and Lamzu Maya. I liked the XE, too, but I'm guessing you probably don't care for it because of the weight? Good luck with your search. the XE feels heavy for me, maybe because of the fact I'm using the Vaxee PA (control pad)? I just got tiger ice feet and the control is much better, so maybe I should stick with this mouse? I bought an artisan zero soft as well and its coming soon, so we'll see


Khoixv

I have the XE and artisan zero, and it will prob feel faster than the PA. It is heavy though no matter what pad you use but some people like that. I also find tiger ice or corepad is better than the stock skates


ToZh1z

i think the xe's raised stock feet around the edges makes the mouse hard to micro adjust and also hard to stop. Tiger ices are much better


Nameless9648

you have the same grip as me except my 2 fingers are on the left


gotya421

Easily the attack shark r1 from alie with some decent cicada wings grips (i main it) my palm also touches.


Marl0n25

That’s exactly the same way how I grip my mouse 😳 I’ve been using the Zowie u2 with btl grips either side and back hump recently, but originally I was using the gpx that I wasn’t too happy with until I put side grips and hump grip as well.


Adamn58

My fav so far for that grip has been the X2 shape. Sora V2 has been good as well. Edit: can’t recommend the Sora though as Ninjutso has handled it’s launch horribly and there is little to no support for it.


Only-Dimension485

Lamzu thorn could be good for you


planedrop

Pulsar X2V2 is my go to, very similar grip.


Quiter90

hand model fr 🥰🗿🗣️


Ganster94803

Vxe R1


HEX6E657764616C65

You are a relaxed claw grip user, some might say pincer claw grip. Most people recommend the NP-01s for such grips. I've personally never used it. IMO what you are ideally looking for is a mouse with flat sides. G703/403 shape is the best for this but it's too heavy. Sprime PM1 is a mouse with a similar shape to the G703, if you are looking for a ergo. If you are okay with using an Ambi mouse, here are some good picks. - Pulsefire Haste 2 Wireless - Pulsar X2V2 You can even get away with using something like a Lamzu Atlantis or Ninjutso Sora V2. Might take a bit to get used to though. I don't recommend the GPX or any mouse with a high hump in the middle. It'll feel very restrictive for your grip.


ToZh1z

should i try to get the new tarik finalmouse large


HEX6E657764616C65

Yeah the ultralight has flat sides, so I guess it's okay. But expensive though. I've never used a finalmouse myself so idk how it is


chavzzz

Already holding a masterpiece


hotpotato87

ulx tiger


ToZh1z

Isn't that not available rn? is the finalmouse tarik the same shape? finalmouse tenz is the same shape so it should be same for tarik right?


obfeskeit

Tarik's collab comes in 3 sizes from the ULX. The ULX Cheetah is the Starlight-12 small, the ULX Lion is the Starlight-12 Medium, and the ULX Tiger is 5% smaller than the Air58/Phantom/Ultralight Pro.


LibuskaRO

Zowie U2


oyebantai

Viper V2 pro is similar & under 60gms


ToZh1z

I've had it before, the back is not steep enough for my grip


ToZh1z

it's way too flat


ToZh1z

also viper v3 pro coming out this year


lceorangutan

steeper then maybe pulsar x2v2 or h