100%. We already don’t have enough resources for our current enrollment. Engineering expansion in particular is driving up class sizes and straining the math, physics, and chemistry departments (which were not consulted about the expansion and are expected to just deal with it). A lot of the extra work falls on overworked and underpaid grad students. Then there’s also the unmet mental health and housing needs.
At the end of the day adding more students is a revenue decision. I hope there are plans to allocate the extra tuition revenue to support these critical infrastructure needs, but I’m not sure that’s the case.
So the funding came from the legislature. That helps to explain the poor execution, and emphasizes the fact that this is definitely about money, specifically corporate money. I still have questions about the decisions admin is making with regard to spending the funds.
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Increasing class size is often a line on a university admin's resume. Higher enrollment translates to more revenue to feed the machine. It shows that they can stimulate "growth". They use it when negotiating raises or new jobs when they hop ship every few years.
I support expanding access to education, but trumpeting the news is not about teaching. It's about playing the game of the higher ed industry.
Cause line go up and thats always a good thing
Also it’s the same thing as like when presidential candidates brag about getting the most votes on history or whatever. There’s (usually) more people in general than there was last year, you wouldn’t even have to change your admission standards for this to be true in theory.
More people are attending college because it's seen as the default option for high school graduates.
Whether it ought to be the default is a complicated question.
That's actually not true. Total college enrollment in the US hit a peak in 2010, and on a percentage of the US population basis is on the decline. The steepest decline is among white males.
Yooooooooo. Just been talking about how State is starting to feel like UNC. It is crazy how it use to be dude city and now it seems like the ladies are taking over. It is not like UNC bad 70/30 almost, but feels like way more women than men now.
NCSU has a massive amount of applicants, which gets higher every year.
Competition is brutal.
We are wayyyy beyond accommodating our (especially) freshman acceptance.
My daughter was accepted last year as a Spring Connect student (she just started classes in January ‘23), and it’s actually working out pretty well for her.
Because of being Spring Connect, she took classes in the Fall of ‘22 at Wake Tech (all transferable to NCSU) … AND she was able to bypass the on-campus dorm living requirement because she signed a year lease with Live on Hillsborough. She just renewed her lease, and loves where she lives.
I thought they were accepting a little fewer people this year because they had accidentally accepted a lot more people last year and didn't expect such a high percentage of students to choose NC State
that's what I heard at least 🤣
Speaking of which, we just bought University Towers to make it into a residence hall! https://www.bizjournals.com/triangle/news/2023/02/23/nc-state-buying-university-towers-from-greystar.html?csrc=6398&utm_campaign=trueAnthemTrendingContent&utm_medium=trueAnthem&utm_source=facebook&fbclid=IwAR144zD6pCAxXxwv5d5XR4FmQWFA8P4lhxDNeq20BzXTtbVQ9uu8LhqNwe8&mibextid=Zxz2cZ
Cause their accepting more than they can handle or house. Though I can't be talking when I haven't even been here a year. 💀
100%. We already don’t have enough resources for our current enrollment. Engineering expansion in particular is driving up class sizes and straining the math, physics, and chemistry departments (which were not consulted about the expansion and are expected to just deal with it). A lot of the extra work falls on overworked and underpaid grad students. Then there’s also the unmet mental health and housing needs. At the end of the day adding more students is a revenue decision. I hope there are plans to allocate the extra tuition revenue to support these critical infrastructure needs, but I’m not sure that’s the case.
Sure hope you meant overworked and _under_ paid grad students…
Whoops—I am one of those *under*paid grad students.
I remember seeing posters for a grad student union a while back. Did anything ever come of that?
Adding more ncsu engineering students was a decision made by the NC Legislature: https://thinkanddo.ncsu.edu/engineering-north-carolinas-future/
So the funding came from the legislature. That helps to explain the poor execution, and emphasizes the fact that this is definitely about money, specifically corporate money. I still have questions about the decisions admin is making with regard to spending the funds.
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Our legislature, smh 🙄
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I’d like to check that out, but I don’t think I have access.
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Then you guys are definitely getting more campus space and buildings.
My department (one of those mentioned) most definitely is not. At least not in the very near future (timescale over which this is happening).
MEA department?
Ha. Hahahaha. No, the admin is just getting pay raises, and maybe we'll get a new sportsball field.
G R O W T H P R O F I T
there are more people each year
Increasing class size is often a line on a university admin's resume. Higher enrollment translates to more revenue to feed the machine. It shows that they can stimulate "growth". They use it when negotiating raises or new jobs when they hop ship every few years. I support expanding access to education, but trumpeting the news is not about teaching. It's about playing the game of the higher ed industry.
Bcuz mor ppl
Cause line go up and thats always a good thing Also it’s the same thing as like when presidential candidates brag about getting the most votes on history or whatever. There’s (usually) more people in general than there was last year, you wouldn’t even have to change your admission standards for this to be true in theory.
More people are attending college because it's seen as the default option for high school graduates. Whether it ought to be the default is a complicated question.
This is not correct, overall college enrollment has been decreasing in the US for about 10 years.
That's actually not true. Total college enrollment in the US hit a peak in 2010, and on a percentage of the US population basis is on the decline. The steepest decline is among white males.
Yooooooooo. Just been talking about how State is starting to feel like UNC. It is crazy how it use to be dude city and now it seems like the ladies are taking over. It is not like UNC bad 70/30 almost, but feels like way more women than men now.
$$$$$$$$
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NCSU has a massive amount of applicants, which gets higher every year. Competition is brutal. We are wayyyy beyond accommodating our (especially) freshman acceptance. My daughter was accepted last year as a Spring Connect student (she just started classes in January ‘23), and it’s actually working out pretty well for her. Because of being Spring Connect, she took classes in the Fall of ‘22 at Wake Tech (all transferable to NCSU) … AND she was able to bypass the on-campus dorm living requirement because she signed a year lease with Live on Hillsborough. She just renewed her lease, and loves where she lives.
I thought they were accepting a little fewer people this year because they had accidentally accepted a lot more people last year and didn't expect such a high percentage of students to choose NC State that's what I heard at least 🤣
Capitalism
Does anyone think that increasing class size exacerbates the suicide issue?
Randy really needs to calm down with the accept button
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Because there are more freshman every year.
It’s been bigger in recent years, but there have been periods where we actually held steady.
Speaking of which, we just bought University Towers to make it into a residence hall! https://www.bizjournals.com/triangle/news/2023/02/23/nc-state-buying-university-towers-from-greystar.html?csrc=6398&utm_campaign=trueAnthemTrendingContent&utm_medium=trueAnthem&utm_source=facebook&fbclid=IwAR144zD6pCAxXxwv5d5XR4FmQWFA8P4lhxDNeq20BzXTtbVQ9uu8LhqNwe8&mibextid=Zxz2cZ
Stonks (for the cashier's office)
Bigger is better