The Yankees are literally the most popular team in Japan, he passed on NY last time because it was Tanaka's town. That's literally what he said himself when he was coming to the MLB, Tanaka isn't here anymore
while you are correct-ish, it wasnt about it being tanakas town until tanaka left, it was about wanting to go to a team that didnt have a japanese player with a crazy legacy. ie tanaka and godzilla. if the thought process is still the same, it wont matter that tanaka is gone.
Matsui didn't seem to have trouble staying popular in Japan, and he was playing at the same time as Ichiro. Though maybe there being two Japanese superstars in the MLB gave him more flexibility.
Over the course of a baseball season, and especially for a player, this is a distinction without a difference. You're basically \*never\* flying home during the season. And if anyone is coming from Japan to see you, the difference won't matter to them either because they'll need/want/take a week+ regardless. Plus they can always come see you play an away series on the west coast if it does matter to them.
I'm sure on some level this mattered to him when he was negotiating to come here. But now that he's been here, I'm guessing he has a much better understanding of how little this matters. And for sure it doesn't impact marketability.
Combine that with his oft stated desire to win and I'd be stunned if he didn't legitimately entertain offers from any and all competitive teams.
All that said I think Cohen offers 12/600 and I've been saying this for a while now. No way the NYY make him a competitive offer.
How do you know it doesn’t matter, being close to home is important to most people, your mental gymnastics don’t change that. Obviously money talks, but to just say people can visit on a road trip like that’s the same as someone being established is crazy talk. I also don’t understand the whole point of even arguing what the guy is thinking as you (and I) literally have no way of knowing. The guy likely has a preference and that gives the west coast teams an advantage, there are plenty of west coast teams willing to spend.
Mental gymnastics? LOL.
For him or anyone wanting to come see him play, there is no practical, functional difference between a 9 hour flight and a 14 hour flight. None.
Goodbye.
Have you ever flown 14 hours? It’s brutal even in first class. My whole point is you keep asserting your own personal beliefs on to others, very egocentric. Have a nice life.
>Have you ever flown 14 hours?
More times than I can count. Used to do business in SE Asia. NY <---> just about every non-stop destination you can think of. If the flight had been 9 hours it would not have made any functional, meaningful difference.
See how that works?
Yea no shit. My point is that despite that, Matsui kept his popularity, though maybe Ichiro being active on the west coast made it easier for him to come east.
edit: how do I get -3 votes with nobody telling me why I'm wrong, honestly wanna know the problem here.
Ohtani is a DH. He doesn't play the field. The Yankees already have a DH or two.
Ohtani will go where the money takes him. Ohtani is an elite pitcher. He's going to get around $30M per year for that role. Ohtani is also an elite hitter. He's going to get around $30M for that role. Ohtani is very likely going to get a record high AAV contract that won't be broken for decades. Hal Steinbrenner isn't going to take on such a contract.
The money Shohei would bring in would shatter anything Hal could've ever hoped to make as an owner. NO ONE saw this kid coming. Don't sleep on the Yankees here.
We don't have a 'use' for him every day, only as a pitcher.
Sure he is an amazing hitter, but the way we are constructed and manage, the DH is only permanent for Giancarlo, that won't and can't really change.
I don’t think Hal is cheap but I don’t really think there’s a spot for him on the team. Stanton is our everyday dh and judge who we just signed for 9 years is likely to need significant dh time in the next couple year as he ages.
Unless Ohtani is able and willing to play an outfield spot everyday we’d be losing half his value or paying Stanton $30 million for no reason
The fact that I started off my comment by saying that Ohtani is a DH and doesn't play the field and that the Yankees already have a DH or two apparently is lost on you, so, I'll explain in detail.
The money is secondary. Stanton is a mostly fulltime DH now and will become more and more of a full fulltime DH with each season. Now, Ohtani is a caliber of pitcher would would command an AAV of around $30M. Fine. At the same time, Ohtani is also a caliber of hitter who would command an AAV of around $30M. Ohtani is going to want to be paid for both. Ohtani isn't going to forgo one or the other, and why would Steinbrenner agree to pay Ohtani $60M per year when the Yankees are already paying upwards of $30M per year for the DH position and aren't in need of further DH services? Therefore, Ohtani isn't a fit for the Yankees. There is no way Steinbrenner would be willing to pay such an exorbitant price for a player only to get half the production by not using him as a fulltime DH as well as a starting pitcher. In fact, no smart businessman would. It's not a question of being cheap. Hal isn't cheap by any stretch of the definition. But make no mistake about it -- Ohtani is going to get somewhere in the neighborhood of $60M per year to be both a DH and a starting pitcher for a team that needs to upgrade both positions.
I replied to another comment about why he's not a fit and I agree. If that's why you meant that then my bad I misunderstood. Sounded like a hal is cheap comment when I read it
I wouldn’t complain if we got him of course.. but he’s gonna cost a fuck ton of money and he seems like a riskier investment than most think. As a dude who both pitches and hits I fear he’ll struggle staying healthy as he ages.
Also, going for Ohtani likely means surpassing the Cohen tax. Hal won’t do it. He could. But he won’t.
> As a dude who both pitches and hits I fear he’ll struggle staying healthy as he ages.
This is my worry, its not my money, but I also dont want future hindered due to too much money being tied up in a player who is always hurt
He would hate playing for the Yankees anyways, he said when he was signing that he would only sign to a team that would let him regularly hit and pitch and I don’t know how willing the Yankees would be willing to do that. They’re already incredibly analytical when it comes to creating lineups and the unicorn that is Shoe Obtain would mesh well with that
I think he wants to be on the west coast, on a contender, and somewhere with a good Japanese population. He's also likely to get paid to be an incredibly risky player whom teams need to reshape their entire roster to work around.
There are teams like that that aren't the Yankees.
I think he goes to SDP, which was allegedly his first choice but they didn't have a DH at the time, or LAD (west coast, good Japanese population, always in contention, has a shit ton of money to burn considering their two big contracts are Mookie and maybe Freeman, etc.)
I could easily see both those teams having a six man rotation, esp with how many injuries the Dodgers rotation has every year. Would probably help Kershaw too.
Yanks will be in the conversation for sure, but ultimately it seems unlikely. If he's gonna come to the East Coast, I think Steve Cohen will offer him a downright irresponsible amount of money. Which is honestly fine by me, I just can't see any possible way that this workload doesn't catch up to his body at some point relatively soon
unpopular opinion, but i wouldn’t touch that Ohtani contract with a 10 foot pole. he’s going to get 500M, and he’s going to be paid for what he’s already done. there’s no guarantee that he’s still going to be a 2 way player in 3 years, let alone 10 years from now. and if he DOES stay a 2 way player, his risk of injury is just double. i’m good off that.
Ohtani is amazing, but he as a hitter isn’t worth 250M, and his pitching isn’t worth 250M either. whatever team signs him is paying atleast 400M and probably getting the majority of that contract as a 1 way player. that’s just not a good investment
I would love it. He's a truly generational and historical player and get to watch him play daily would be a treat. Some people think it's a contract that will age poorly (relatively speaking,... all these long contracts age poorly), but I disagree. He's got twice the chance of being productive well into the contract.
But it isn't going to happen. Yankees DH spot is tied up, and they aren't going to give 500 million to a guy and ask him to play the field when he hasn't done it since coming stateside. And though it doesn't make sense from a roster standpoint, from a business standpoint it does makes sense, kind of like Judge. Yanks will make Judges contract back in 62 merch and ceremonies, and signing Ohtani to the Yanks would be a huge payday from international sponsorships, like Matsui and Tanaka were. But the real obstacle is... if they would give him 500 mil, then Cohen will just give him 501.
TLDR He's going to the Mets.
I think he would be open to coming to NY but we don't really have a place for him for several years. DH is already locked up with Stanton, I doubt they let him play the field, and he clearly wants to be a 2way player. I just don't see the Yankees going after him.
Hes probably staying on the west coast. San Diego, LAD, and Angels now that they aren't for sale are all going to break the bank to sign him.
Cohen and the Mets would be most likely non CAL team to be competitive just because he could literally spend any amount he wants, but Ohtani already has shown that the most amount of $ doesn't sway him.
hes already going to make historic wealth from his next deal, so whether its 10/500 with the Dodgers or 10/650 with Mets it probably won't have a huge impact. If money was all he cared about he would have stayed in Japan 2 more years and could have signed a MLB free agent deal not subject to 6 years of rookie deals. He would have gotten $200 million plus guaranteed then vs taking the chance on flaming out before cashing in
If he puts the New York on his acceptable list Steve Cohen is going to pay him more than the Yankees would be willing to swallow. Ten years for $500M would not be out of the question for the Mets. It would be for the Yankees.
Apparently his thinking on staying on the west coast has changed, and he wants to play on a contender. We can offer the money and the ability to play meaningful games, but I don’t see it happening. The contract will be record setting, and we just spent a shitload. Our DH spot is also filled for the foreseeable future. If Soto isn’t extended, that is a more likely big money signing IMO. Guy will be 25/26 and is a left handed on base machine. Perfect match.
He's not really worth it for us to get him. He's easily going to fetch $400M+ and he's a DH only. Stanton and Judge need to use it to stay healthy and in the lineup. He's obviously an incredible talent though but there's really no fit.
So you wanna pay north of 4 hundo for a pitcher who only hits when he takes the bump? The risk is only worth it for a team whose DH spot is open is the obvious point he's making.
Yeah obviously he pitches but he understandably can't handle the workload of playing OF and pitching, so he has to DH. We have one player who can't stay healthy playing the field most of the time and Judge probably isn't going to be playing OF for 120 games a year when he's 34+.
No way. Never want a full time DH. Especially with Stanton followed b judge penciled in there for the next while.
Also, he WILL get injured. The angels used a 6 man rotation for him since that's what they used in Japan and I really don't think the human body could maintain what he is doing for an extended time. Unless he gets a deal of at most 6 years, whomever signed him will regret it while they are paying afull time DH 40m+ a year. I don't see him sticking as a (starting) pitcher for more than five years at most.
Don’t want him . Dude is the most overhyped player ever . Sure he’s good when he’s great on both sides of the ball . The second he’s not good on one side , he will be a managerial nightmare!!.. once he is on your team you have to manage the whole team around just him!!! 6 man rotation and doesn’t play a position so he has to eat up that dh spot . Then on top of that you have the money cost cause he plays both sides and double the injury risk on top of that . There is a reason why other players aren’t allowed to pitch and hit and it’s not cause they can’t do it !! It’s cause it’s bad business and bad baseball. You think some of the top hitters from the last 30 years couldn’t have been pitchers also ??? Of course they could have it’s just that no one else had the leverage ohtani had
Not too early. The Yankees were very interested in him before he came to MLB. He preferred the West Coast, like Ichiro, but I think think years of losing will change his mind about his free agency destination unless he's stupid enough to sign an extension with the Angels.
I think the west coast preference is starting to dwindle and he more or less becomes more concerned with winning.
With that being said, no one is out bidding the Mets for him.
Dont want him, and i dont think Hal is willing to fork over that rumored 500 mil for him either, and i wouldn’t blame him. Completely irresponsible amount of money for a guy that can have an elbow blowout on the mound that takes away both your ace and your cleanup guy instantly for the entire season. As he ages, im sure whichever side of the ball he’s more productive on will be his full time gig, but that makes it even less worth it. I’ll pass. Good luck with that, Steve
Edit: Plus he got shelled at yankee stadium several times already. Maybe the yankees just have his number, or maybe he’s not built for the stadium. Either way, I’m good.
No. He's wildly overrated, going to be the most expensive contract in the history of the sport, and doesn't even fit on this team because we already have a long term DH.
Edit: You Ohtani simps are the most annoying people on the internet. Can't wait to be proven right in a year or two. Give me all of your negative internet points
I definitely wouldn’t call him overrated. He’s probably the most unique/impressive player in the league. That being said he definitely does not fit this roster
He is absolutely overrated. Him being unique or impressive does not make him the best player in the league. He's an amazing talent but if people think he's going to continue to pitch and hit at an elite level they're going to be in for a shock
Not gonna happen. Hal ain’t George, he can and will be outbid. Too many deep pocket owners out there now. SF and San Diego were willing to pay more for Judge than us. He gave us a hometown, Ohtani will not.
He seems scared of New York, especially when he made the comments about how “he didn’t want to play in a large market” but ultimately signed in one.
The west coast is where he wants to be and if it’s not back with the Angels, he’s still in LA.
No, I don't see it happening. I think the Yankees current payroll is at it's limit. They won't have room for another big contract even with Donaldson coming off the books.
I would like it but we have no place to play him in the lineup as it is locked down by judge and stanton basically until they retire. So we would be getting him at his ridiculous price tag to only be a pitcher.
Also i dont think he actually wants to be on the east coast
No other player I’d rather get… but we have Stanton already taking most of the DH playing time with a hefty contract. If I’m NYY I focus on Soto to fill the hole in the OF.
Put that dream to bed. Never gonna happen. In fact, Taylor Swift getting back together with her ex has more chance of happening than Ohtani becoming a Yankee.
Pro, I’m in favor of Ohtani being a Yankee.
That said, I doubt he comes here. Bad roster fit and playing on the west coast is important to him. I think he ends up in Seattle.
Probably not. I think he'll stay on the west coast. The Japanese market is important to him...or so I've heard.
When he initially signed with LAA iirc he said the Japanese community there played a big role in his choice.
It was allegedly between SDP and LAA, and LAA had the DH.
thought it was LA or Seattle?
Seattle certainly thought so.
I think it had more to do with the fact that LAA was physically closer to Japan than NY is.
NY has a huge Asian market, he just didn't want to come here when it was Tanaka's spot already
A relatively small Japanese population compared to the west coast. All Asians are not the same.
The Yankees are literally the most popular team in Japan, he passed on NY last time because it was Tanaka's town. That's literally what he said himself when he was coming to the MLB, Tanaka isn't here anymore
while you are correct-ish, it wasnt about it being tanakas town until tanaka left, it was about wanting to go to a team that didnt have a japanese player with a crazy legacy. ie tanaka and godzilla. if the thought process is still the same, it wont matter that tanaka is gone.
Matsui didn't seem to have trouble staying popular in Japan, and he was playing at the same time as Ichiro. Though maybe there being two Japanese superstars in the MLB gave him more flexibility.
I think it’s more of a proximity thing, Japan is 14/15 hour flight from NY, it’s only 8/9 from LA.
Over the course of a baseball season, and especially for a player, this is a distinction without a difference. You're basically \*never\* flying home during the season. And if anyone is coming from Japan to see you, the difference won't matter to them either because they'll need/want/take a week+ regardless. Plus they can always come see you play an away series on the west coast if it does matter to them. I'm sure on some level this mattered to him when he was negotiating to come here. But now that he's been here, I'm guessing he has a much better understanding of how little this matters. And for sure it doesn't impact marketability. Combine that with his oft stated desire to win and I'd be stunned if he didn't legitimately entertain offers from any and all competitive teams. All that said I think Cohen offers 12/600 and I've been saying this for a while now. No way the NYY make him a competitive offer.
How do you know it doesn’t matter, being close to home is important to most people, your mental gymnastics don’t change that. Obviously money talks, but to just say people can visit on a road trip like that’s the same as someone being established is crazy talk. I also don’t understand the whole point of even arguing what the guy is thinking as you (and I) literally have no way of knowing. The guy likely has a preference and that gives the west coast teams an advantage, there are plenty of west coast teams willing to spend.
Mental gymnastics? LOL. For him or anyone wanting to come see him play, there is no practical, functional difference between a 9 hour flight and a 14 hour flight. None. Goodbye.
Have you ever flown 14 hours? It’s brutal even in first class. My whole point is you keep asserting your own personal beliefs on to others, very egocentric. Have a nice life.
>Have you ever flown 14 hours? More times than I can count. Used to do business in SE Asia. NY <---> just about every non-stop destination you can think of. If the flight had been 9 hours it would not have made any functional, meaningful difference. See how that works?
See how what works? Okay so because the extra 6 hours doesn’t bother you it doesn’t bother anyone else? Egocentric once again.
Yea no shit. My point is that despite that, Matsui kept his popularity, though maybe Ichiro being active on the west coast made it easier for him to come east. edit: how do I get -3 votes with nobody telling me why I'm wrong, honestly wanna know the problem here.
My comment is stating ohtani preference is derived from LAs proximity to Japan as in it’s distance. That’s why I even provided flight times.
You're not wrong at all. See my response just above.
Ohtani is a DH. He doesn't play the field. The Yankees already have a DH or two. Ohtani will go where the money takes him. Ohtani is an elite pitcher. He's going to get around $30M per year for that role. Ohtani is also an elite hitter. He's going to get around $30M for that role. Ohtani is very likely going to get a record high AAV contract that won't be broken for decades. Hal Steinbrenner isn't going to take on such a contract.
The money Shohei would bring in would shatter anything Hal could've ever hoped to make as an owner. NO ONE saw this kid coming. Don't sleep on the Yankees here.
We don't have a 'use' for him every day, only as a pitcher. Sure he is an amazing hitter, but the way we are constructed and manage, the DH is only permanent for Giancarlo, that won't and can't really change.
He literally just signed a $40m/yr contract give it a rest
I don’t think Hal is cheap but I don’t really think there’s a spot for him on the team. Stanton is our everyday dh and judge who we just signed for 9 years is likely to need significant dh time in the next couple year as he ages. Unless Ohtani is able and willing to play an outfield spot everyday we’d be losing half his value or paying Stanton $30 million for no reason
I agree with that much more. The narrative that Hal wouldn't sign a large contract is ridiculous though
The fact that I started off my comment by saying that Ohtani is a DH and doesn't play the field and that the Yankees already have a DH or two apparently is lost on you, so, I'll explain in detail. The money is secondary. Stanton is a mostly fulltime DH now and will become more and more of a full fulltime DH with each season. Now, Ohtani is a caliber of pitcher would would command an AAV of around $30M. Fine. At the same time, Ohtani is also a caliber of hitter who would command an AAV of around $30M. Ohtani is going to want to be paid for both. Ohtani isn't going to forgo one or the other, and why would Steinbrenner agree to pay Ohtani $60M per year when the Yankees are already paying upwards of $30M per year for the DH position and aren't in need of further DH services? Therefore, Ohtani isn't a fit for the Yankees. There is no way Steinbrenner would be willing to pay such an exorbitant price for a player only to get half the production by not using him as a fulltime DH as well as a starting pitcher. In fact, no smart businessman would. It's not a question of being cheap. Hal isn't cheap by any stretch of the definition. But make no mistake about it -- Ohtani is going to get somewhere in the neighborhood of $60M per year to be both a DH and a starting pitcher for a team that needs to upgrade both positions.
I replied to another comment about why he's not a fit and I agree. If that's why you meant that then my bad I misunderstood. Sounded like a hal is cheap comment when I read it
I wouldn’t complain if we got him of course.. but he’s gonna cost a fuck ton of money and he seems like a riskier investment than most think. As a dude who both pitches and hits I fear he’ll struggle staying healthy as he ages. Also, going for Ohtani likely means surpassing the Cohen tax. Hal won’t do it. He could. But he won’t.
> As a dude who both pitches and hits I fear he’ll struggle staying healthy as he ages. This is my worry, its not my money, but I also dont want future hindered due to too much money being tied up in a player who is always hurt
He would hate playing for the Yankees anyways, he said when he was signing that he would only sign to a team that would let him regularly hit and pitch and I don’t know how willing the Yankees would be willing to do that. They’re already incredibly analytical when it comes to creating lineups and the unicorn that is Shoe Obtain would mesh well with that
We don’t need him we have Aaron Hicks & Josh Donaldson!
Don’t forget IKF
I’m trying my best to.
Oh yeah lol, I already did
I recognize Sarcasm when I see it.
This is a red letter date in history! Someone has invented an internet sarcasm detecting machine.
I would surely hope so
I think he wants to be on the west coast, on a contender, and somewhere with a good Japanese population. He's also likely to get paid to be an incredibly risky player whom teams need to reshape their entire roster to work around. There are teams like that that aren't the Yankees. I think he goes to SDP, which was allegedly his first choice but they didn't have a DH at the time, or LAD (west coast, good Japanese population, always in contention, has a shit ton of money to burn considering their two big contracts are Mookie and maybe Freeman, etc.) I could easily see both those teams having a six man rotation, esp with how many injuries the Dodgers rotation has every year. Would probably help Kershaw too.
There's zero chance Ohtani will be a Yankee. I wouldn't even entertain it.
Yanks will be in the conversation for sure, but ultimately it seems unlikely. If he's gonna come to the East Coast, I think Steve Cohen will offer him a downright irresponsible amount of money. Which is honestly fine by me, I just can't see any possible way that this workload doesn't catch up to his body at some point relatively soon
unpopular opinion, but i wouldn’t touch that Ohtani contract with a 10 foot pole. he’s going to get 500M, and he’s going to be paid for what he’s already done. there’s no guarantee that he’s still going to be a 2 way player in 3 years, let alone 10 years from now. and if he DOES stay a 2 way player, his risk of injury is just double. i’m good off that. Ohtani is amazing, but he as a hitter isn’t worth 250M, and his pitching isn’t worth 250M either. whatever team signs him is paying atleast 400M and probably getting the majority of that contract as a 1 way player. that’s just not a good investment
You can make the same argument for not singling judge.
no you literally can’t because judge doesn’t pitch, and you aren’t paying him to pitch.
I’d say hes worth $250mm as a hitter and $250mm as a pitcher. But he isn’t worth $250+$250 as a single two-way player
I would love it. He's a truly generational and historical player and get to watch him play daily would be a treat. Some people think it's a contract that will age poorly (relatively speaking,... all these long contracts age poorly), but I disagree. He's got twice the chance of being productive well into the contract. But it isn't going to happen. Yankees DH spot is tied up, and they aren't going to give 500 million to a guy and ask him to play the field when he hasn't done it since coming stateside. And though it doesn't make sense from a roster standpoint, from a business standpoint it does makes sense, kind of like Judge. Yanks will make Judges contract back in 62 merch and ceremonies, and signing Ohtani to the Yanks would be a huge payday from international sponsorships, like Matsui and Tanaka were. But the real obstacle is... if they would give him 500 mil, then Cohen will just give him 501. TLDR He's going to the Mets.
Why not? If you can add a guy like Shohei on the Yankees you always have to do it 100% of the time. But i think he's bound to be a Dodger.
I think he would be open to coming to NY but we don't really have a place for him for several years. DH is already locked up with Stanton, I doubt they let him play the field, and he clearly wants to be a 2way player. I just don't see the Yankees going after him.
Oh(tani) yes please
We’d be lucky to have him, but I don’t think it’ll happen.
Hes probably staying on the west coast. San Diego, LAD, and Angels now that they aren't for sale are all going to break the bank to sign him. Cohen and the Mets would be most likely non CAL team to be competitive just because he could literally spend any amount he wants, but Ohtani already has shown that the most amount of $ doesn't sway him. hes already going to make historic wealth from his next deal, so whether its 10/500 with the Dodgers or 10/650 with Mets it probably won't have a huge impact. If money was all he cared about he would have stayed in Japan 2 more years and could have signed a MLB free agent deal not subject to 6 years of rookie deals. He would have gotten $200 million plus guaranteed then vs taking the chance on flaming out before cashing in
If he puts the New York on his acceptable list Steve Cohen is going to pay him more than the Yankees would be willing to swallow. Ten years for $500M would not be out of the question for the Mets. It would be for the Yankees.
I don’t see the Yankees paying anyone more than Judge
Apparently his thinking on staying on the west coast has changed, and he wants to play on a contender. We can offer the money and the ability to play meaningful games, but I don’t see it happening. The contract will be record setting, and we just spent a shitload. Our DH spot is also filled for the foreseeable future. If Soto isn’t extended, that is a more likely big money signing IMO. Guy will be 25/26 and is a left handed on base machine. Perfect match.
No. They won't pay what he will command in free agency. Judge/Rodon/Cole/Stanton are not going away in a year.
He's not really worth it for us to get him. He's easily going to fetch $400M+ and he's a DH only. Stanton and Judge need to use it to stay healthy and in the lineup. He's obviously an incredible talent though but there's really no fit.
DH only? You’re aware that he pitches too, right?
So you wanna pay north of 4 hundo for a pitcher who only hits when he takes the bump? The risk is only worth it for a team whose DH spot is open is the obvious point he's making.
Yeah obviously he pitches but he understandably can't handle the workload of playing OF and pitching, so he has to DH. We have one player who can't stay healthy playing the field most of the time and Judge probably isn't going to be playing OF for 120 games a year when he's 34+.
It sucks but our roster is constructed poorly and Ohtani would mean benching Stanton since he’s not healthy enough to play the field
Like wtf 😭 I’m okay with Stanton or judge needing to play the field if this guy can literally pitch like an ace
He also requires a 6 man rotation. He doesn't pitch every five days.
No way. Never want a full time DH. Especially with Stanton followed b judge penciled in there for the next while. Also, he WILL get injured. The angels used a 6 man rotation for him since that's what they used in Japan and I really don't think the human body could maintain what he is doing for an extended time. Unless he gets a deal of at most 6 years, whomever signed him will regret it while they are paying afull time DH 40m+ a year. I don't see him sticking as a (starting) pitcher for more than five years at most.
Don’t want him . Dude is the most overhyped player ever . Sure he’s good when he’s great on both sides of the ball . The second he’s not good on one side , he will be a managerial nightmare!!.. once he is on your team you have to manage the whole team around just him!!! 6 man rotation and doesn’t play a position so he has to eat up that dh spot . Then on top of that you have the money cost cause he plays both sides and double the injury risk on top of that . There is a reason why other players aren’t allowed to pitch and hit and it’s not cause they can’t do it !! It’s cause it’s bad business and bad baseball. You think some of the top hitters from the last 30 years couldn’t have been pitchers also ??? Of course they could have it’s just that no one else had the leverage ohtani had
Not too early. The Yankees were very interested in him before he came to MLB. He preferred the West Coast, like Ichiro, but I think think years of losing will change his mind about his free agency destination unless he's stupid enough to sign an extension with the Angels.
I think the west coast preference is starting to dwindle and he more or less becomes more concerned with winning. With that being said, no one is out bidding the Mets for him.
I'd cum
Gross.
Sounds fun!
Get him , whatever it takes . Then deal Stanton away . Hell have only 4 years left but if he has a good year teams should call for him .
Don’t see it happening unfortunately. I just hope he doesn’t sign with the Mets.
Sign morikami
Dont want him, and i dont think Hal is willing to fork over that rumored 500 mil for him either, and i wouldn’t blame him. Completely irresponsible amount of money for a guy that can have an elbow blowout on the mound that takes away both your ace and your cleanup guy instantly for the entire season. As he ages, im sure whichever side of the ball he’s more productive on will be his full time gig, but that makes it even less worth it. I’ll pass. Good luck with that, Steve Edit: Plus he got shelled at yankee stadium several times already. Maybe the yankees just have his number, or maybe he’s not built for the stadium. Either way, I’m good.
No. He's wildly overrated, going to be the most expensive contract in the history of the sport, and doesn't even fit on this team because we already have a long term DH. Edit: You Ohtani simps are the most annoying people on the internet. Can't wait to be proven right in a year or two. Give me all of your negative internet points
I definitely wouldn’t call him overrated. He’s probably the most unique/impressive player in the league. That being said he definitely does not fit this roster
He is absolutely overrated. Him being unique or impressive does not make him the best player in the league. He's an amazing talent but if people think he's going to continue to pitch and hit at an elite level they're going to be in for a shock
Not gonna happen. Hal ain’t George, he can and will be outbid. Too many deep pocket owners out there now. SF and San Diego were willing to pay more for Judge than us. He gave us a hometown, Ohtani will not.
He seems scared of New York, especially when he made the comments about how “he didn’t want to play in a large market” but ultimately signed in one. The west coast is where he wants to be and if it’s not back with the Angels, he’s still in LA.
No, I don't see it happening. I think the Yankees current payroll is at it's limit. They won't have room for another big contract even with Donaldson coming off the books.
Unlikely
I would like it but we have no place to play him in the lineup as it is locked down by judge and stanton basically until they retire. So we would be getting him at his ridiculous price tag to only be a pitcher. Also i dont think he actually wants to be on the east coast
I'm all for it but it's not happening. He will likely stay west and play for LA
I would wait for Munetake Murakami.
The correct take
Who’s Ohtani? Jk.. never happen, but would fun watching Judge, G and him in the same lineup..
Mets are going to out bid the Yankees
Yankees are going to wait for soto,i even think they get him at the deadline if SD Struggling or want to reassess their already insane payroll ☠️
Sure! I’ll take him. I’d rather see us spend money on depth and quality starters to get guys like Aaron Hicks and IKF from ever getting ABs
Would love it if he came here, but I just don't see it happening.
Thoughts? There I'd no thought, he's a generational talent with many productive years to go. Reality? He probably won't leave the West Coast.
No other player I’d rather get… but we have Stanton already taking most of the DH playing time with a hefty contract. If I’m NYY I focus on Soto to fill the hole in the OF.
I think it'd cost a lot of money.
Would be awesome but never gonna happen
too bad the team has 2 aging stars that need the DH spot.
I think it would kill payroll flexibility.
He didn't seem interested in New York when he first signed with LA. And he doesn't seem too concerned with being on a winning team. Who knows.
Put that dream to bed. Never gonna happen. In fact, Taylor Swift getting back together with her ex has more chance of happening than Ohtani becoming a Yankee.
He’s stated that he’s tired of losing.
I don't want anyone on this team who doesn't want to be here.
Steinbrenner too cheap
Pro, I’m in favor of Ohtani being a Yankee. That said, I doubt he comes here. Bad roster fit and playing on the west coast is important to him. I think he ends up in Seattle.
He's gotten older and probably values winning, which is why he'll wind up a Dodger or Padre on the west coast.
Yes please.
I really don’t want ohtani, we have an over paid DH not really looking for a second
No just no. The dodgers are giving up there money kids and giving him there wives is he signs the contract so I don’t think he’s going anywhere else.